[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, pretty damn good. Look at all these words!  I forgive you, whether this 
was directed at me or not.  Am I being patronizing?  Condescending?  
Self-righteous?  Holier-than-thou?  Yes, yes, I am aware of my "accountability" 
theme.  But, I object to the sexist slur of "cow" used on me as a female.  You 
could have been more "creative" than that.   

 I'm no longer a regular poster here or on The Peak. I was here for a long time 
(a couple of years) and I like to watch the dynamics of the forum(s) play out 
from a distance, but I have other real-world activities and responsibilities 
that require my attendance.  I won't be jumping on here to take Barry to task 
for his  "choice of words" or to surmise on the extent of his "dark" side he 
projects here as a hyper-critical and crazy, angry bitch, imho.  The 
information is in.  As Share says..."we are different here than we are in real 
life."  Ha ha ha.  It's all coming out of our "consciousness", so to speak, so 
what we post is completely valid as a reflection of different aspects of 
ourselves, or where we are at in our personal development as a human being, 
perhaps.  And those that write get to see it play out in words.  And, for some, 
it seems to bolster their ego, particularly when other posters complement them 
on how "smart and wonderful" they are.  We all want to be loved, deep down.  
 

 One thing on the mechanics of FFL -  jumping into a conversation or 
communicating one's own opinion through the action of replying to different 
posts (whether they are addressed specifically to you or not) is something that 
allows for free communication, usually adds dimension to a conversation, and is 
why different threads evolve and continue the way that they do, often for days. 
 My opinions on Barry's word choices were my opinions.  I stand by them.  
Whether I used Jim's replies or Curtis's replies to voice those, is irrelevant. 
It's the way it has worked here as long as I've been here.  Otherwise, one 
would be starting endless threads.Personally speaking, I am certainly *not* 
trolling and "goading" argument; I'm stating my opinion and my views every time 
I post. Barry's word choice was outrageous and despicable, no matter the 
context, and I stand by my opinion.  I stated it, as silence in the face of 
"wrongdoing" is often an enabling behavior.  
 

 There is a certain style that characterizes FFL that is fairly unique to this 
site.  Tensions between differing views and styles feeds this and out of it, at 
it's best, it's highly creative.  At it's worst, it devolves into the dark side 
of human nature that can force the question of how and why one chooses to 
participate here, when what is being posted offends our morals or our 
upbringing or our own beliefs on decency and how we want to treat others and be 
treated ourselves.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dear fellow FFLers.
 

 I feel I should apologise for recent comments of mine that I directed towards 
members of The Peak - apparently an ongoing conversation about our journey as 
human beings, towards the pinnacle of existence. 
 

 As you know I usually try to keep a reasonable and cool head when dealing with 
others as I firmly believe we all deserve a fair hearing for our views, 
whatever they may be. In fact, I consider the best way to deal with people 
whose sole aim appears to be causing trouble is to reason with them and explain 
your POV and why they would gain more credibility if they engaged with their 
own POV rather than just by trolling and trying to goad people into endless 
arguments. The pen is mightier than the sword.
 

 Well, needless to say I failed and told them to fuck off. Big mistake, and a 
mistake made out of total frustration with these righteous types who claim to 
have left our fine company to start a new site without any "negativity". I'm 
sure any serious contributors to this place will understand how irritating it 
is to have to scroll past endless drivel by these people who consider they are 
too good for us but can't leave us alone because they aren't allowed to cause 
trouble on their own enlightened site. I honestly thought we were all going to 
be happy in the new year with our own chosen company. Turns out I was wrong...
 

 So I apologise for all the crap posts you are going to have to endure until 
these people get bored with trying to goad me into a fight - just like they 
always do, I guess some people just need to boost their ego at the expense of 
others. And now we all know WillyTex has been booted off for being an asshole, 
I suspect some of them will be trying to fill his mighty shoes with their own 
brand of horse shit. Go figure.
 

 So one last time dear FFLers, I'm sorry I fed the trolls. But you know it was 
out of pure anger that they came back here and started digging up shit that was 
patiently explained to them ages ago and that any actually intelligent, 
reasoning human being wouldn't even have noticed i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

LOL. I had a friend in Steamboat Springs Co. that used to feed the wild animals 
around her house, mainly red foxes. Used to give them Iams, a premium brand dog 
food. They ran out one day and picked up some Wal-Mart brand dog food and the 
foxes turned their noses up at it, wouldn't eat it! Even wild critters get 
spoiled.
  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 5:53 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology
   
    Don't feel too bad about it. About 40 years ago I once fed a family of 
raccoons in the back yard. Eventually they tore up everything and became a real 
nuisance. Had to stop feeding them, and eventually turn a water hose on them 
for a while to get them to go away. Raccoons like dry dog food in case anyone 
wants to experiment. They are smart though, and know what they want.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Dear fellow FFLers.
I feel I should apologise for recent comments of mine that I directed towards 
members of The Peak - apparently an ongoing conversation about our journey as 
human beings, towards the pinnacle of existence. 
As you know I usually try to keep a reasonable and cool head when dealing with 
others as I firmly believe we all deserve a fair hearing for our views, 
whatever they may be. In fact, I consider the best way to deal with people 
whose sole aim appears to be causing trouble is to reason with them and explain 
your POV and why they would gain more credibility if they engaged with their 
own POV rather than just by trolling and trying to goad people into endless 
arguments. The pen is mightier than the sword.
Well, needless to say I failed and told them to fuck off. Big mistake, and a 
mistake made out of total frustration with these righteous types who claim to 
have left our fine company to start a new site without any "negativity". I'm 
sure any serious contributors to this place will understand how irritating it 
is to have to scroll past endless drivel by these people who consider they are 
too good for us but can't leave us alone because they aren't allowed to cause 
trouble on their own enlightened site. I honestly thought we were all going to 
be happy in the new year with our own chosen company. Turns out I was wrong...
So I apologise for all the crap posts you are going to have to endure until 
these people get bored with trying to goad me into a fight - just like they 
always do, I guess some people just need to boost their ego at the expense of 
others. And now we all know WillyTex has been booted off for being an asshole, 
I suspect some of them will be trying to fill his mighty shoes with their own 
brand of horse shit. Go figure.
So one last time dear FFLers, I'm sorry I fed the trolls. But you know it was 
out of pure anger that they came back here and started digging up shit that was 
patiently explained to them ages ago and that any actually intelligent, 
reasoning human being wouldn't even have noticed in the first place. I should 
know better and I promise to ignore them in future.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Don't feel too bad about it. About 40 years ago I once fed a family of raccoons 
in the back yard. Eventually they tore up everything and became a real 
nuisance. Had to stop feeding them, and eventually turn a water hose on them 
for a while to get them to go away. Raccoons like dry dog food in case anyone 
wants to experiment. They are smart though, and know what they want.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dear fellow FFLers.
 

 I feel I should apologise for recent comments of mine that I directed towards 
members of The Peak - apparently an ongoing conversation about our journey as 
human beings, towards the pinnacle of existence. 
 

 As you know I usually try to keep a reasonable and cool head when dealing with 
others as I firmly believe we all deserve a fair hearing for our views, 
whatever they may be. In fact, I consider the best way to deal with people 
whose sole aim appears to be causing trouble is to reason with them and explain 
your POV and why they would gain more credibility if they engaged with their 
own POV rather than just by trolling and trying to goad people into endless 
arguments. The pen is mightier than the sword.
 

 Well, needless to say I failed and told them to fuck off. Big mistake, and a 
mistake made out of total frustration with these righteous types who claim to 
have left our fine company to start a new site without any "negativity". I'm 
sure any serious contributors to this place will understand how irritating it 
is to have to scroll past endless drivel by these people who consider they are 
too good for us but can't leave us alone because they aren't allowed to cause 
trouble on their own enlightened site. I honestly thought we were all going to 
be happy in the new year with our own chosen company. Turns out I was wrong...
 

 So I apologise for all the crap posts you are going to have to endure until 
these people get bored with trying to goad me into a fight - just like they 
always do, I guess some people just need to boost their ego at the expense of 
others. And now we all know WillyTex has been booted off for being an asshole, 
I suspect some of them will be trying to fill his mighty shoes with their own 
brand of horse shit. Go figure.
 

 So one last time dear FFLers, I'm sorry I fed the trolls. But you know it was 
out of pure anger that they came back here and started digging up shit that was 
patiently explained to them ages ago and that any actually intelligent, 
reasoning human being wouldn't even have noticed in the first place. I should 
know better and I promise to ignore them in future.

 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[Ravi Yogi]

A beautiful message from Bob indeed, his creativity makes it a real
compelling read :-). Oh and thanks for the compliments Bob.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob Price,
>
> There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will not like
this apology. Not because of the way you have expressed yourself, but
because of to whom it is addressed. Now I happen to appreciate the
clarity and impartiality in most of what Judy writes; and certainly
there is no one here on FFL who, in some formal sense at least, is a
better writer than she is.
>
> But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about
the person that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters
at FFL who can imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with
this kind of humility, sincerity, and intelligence—that is, inside
the context of expiating for some self-judged wrong against another
person. Did I know nothing about you; did I know nothing about the
person to whom you are speaking, I would nevertheless admire—even
love—the person who was capable of exhibiting such bright and
intelligent feeling. What strikes me most in this post is the disarming
boldness and coherence with which you make your appeal. There is not a
touch of sentimentality or self-confusion here. I think it quite an
extraordinary proof of the depth of personality and powers of
self-command that you possess.
>
> I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at
what I am trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology.
Even the fact of how you come across here—in the way in which I have
interpreted you—says something positive about Judy. Because had it
not been appropriate—or somehow excessive—for you to write in
this way to her—then your post would have suffered from its very
ambition: namely to do justice to another human being.
>
> That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who
she is as a person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my
sense of who the person must be who was capable of putting themselves in
the position you have and then finding the grace to write what cannot be
misunderstood, what seems to almost perfectly fulfil its very real
intention.
>
>
>
> Judy,
>
>
> I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing
you of
> censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back and
correct me. I
> have no evidence to support such an accusation and you obviously don't
behave
> that way. I also apologize for taking way too long to send this post,
and hope
> it still qualifies as: "better late than never". I also want to thank
the three
> "R's", for helping me find my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin
(riting) and
> Ravi (rithmatic). As you may have guessed; my head is populated by at
least two
> angels; a very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler)
who
> lives, rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's
most of my
> airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's
translucent, about
> the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows
gardenias, and
> quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a dickhead; she does it
in such
> an subtle way, its easy
> to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do
this the
> Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It normally
takes
> friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention to what she
> whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm sorry.
>
>
>
> Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy
something the
> wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:
>
>
>
>
> "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".
>
>
>
>
> It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you don't
mind me
> saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[seventhray1]

Took a lot of discipline  (-:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> Hard to believe :-) but I will take it. I'm not really demanding but
considering my narcissism you could have at least popped in once in a
while to praise my posts :-)
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:20 AM, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@... wrote:
>
> > Thanks Rav. I guess I just didn't have anything to say.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Aah finally, Steve where the heck have you been - I was thinking
of
> > > sending a personal email to you.
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Specifically
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWy8dga4kg
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
steve.sundur@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob,
> > > > >
> > > > > Meant to comment. This was amazing. I've played it many times.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satin+dollz+whatever+lola+wa\
\
> > > \
> > > > \
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
nts+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l14\
\
> > > \
> > > > \
> > > > > 672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
 > > \
> > > > \
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
ants+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l1\
\
> > > \
> > > > \
> > > > > 4672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Judy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I
> > > made---accusing
> > > > > you of censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to
push
> > > back
> > > > > and correct me. I have no evidence to support such an
accusation and
> > > > you
> > > > > obviously don't behave that way. I also apologize for taking
way too
> > > > > long to send this post, and hope it still qualifies as:
"better late
> > > > > than never". I also want to thank the three "R's", for helping
me
> > > find
> > > > > my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and Ravi
> > > (rithmatic).
> > > > As
> > > > > you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two
angels; a
> > > > > very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler)
who
> > > > lives,
> > > > > rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's
most
> > > of
> > > > my
> > > > > airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's
> > > > translucent,
> > > > > about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully,
grows
> > > > > gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be
a
> > > > > dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
> > > > > > to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every
time I
> > > do
> > > > > this the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he
is).
> > > It
> > > > > normally takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any
> > > attention
> > > > > to what she whispered---that might have saved me. In other
> > > words---I'm
> > > > > sorry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might
enjoy
> > > > > something the wife (always a fan of yours) said to me
yesterday:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own
facts".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope
you
> > > > don't
> > > > > mind me saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[maskedzebra]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

Robin---




As always---thank you, your talent for predicting the future continues to amaze.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuvPpzPiIec

RESPONSE: You noticed, Bob, that the "Toronto Kid" swallowed his own spittle—in 
contrast to the Cincinnati Kid who spewed forth. That certainly illustrates the 
difference between us Canadians and you Americans: we are diffident and 
self-effacing; you bold and brave Americans don't [and shouldn't] apologize for 
your conquering ways.

The future was easy to predict, once I felt the utterly unfeigned sincerity of 
your apology—as it played inside the universe, and the more localized universe 
of FFL That apology to Judy is the kind of act of humility and sacrifice of 
amour propre that would stand up at one's death—as the necessary act of final 
contrition.

I felt a shock go through me when I read your post to Judy. Why the shock? 
Because it startled and arrested me with its violent honesty and beauty. You 
either get it or you don't get it.





 
> From: maskedzebra 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:30:38 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Bob Price,
> 
> There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will not like this 
> apology. Not because of the way you have expressed yourself, but because of 
> to whom it is addressed. Now I happen to appreciate the clarity and 
> impartiality in most of what Judy writes; and certainly there is no one here 
> on FFL who, in some formal sense at least, is a better writer than she is.
> 
> But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about the 
> person that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters at FFL 
> who can imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with this kind of 
> humility, sincerity, and intelligenceâ€"that is, inside the context of 
> expiating for some self-judged wrong against another person. Did I know 
> nothing about you; did I know nothing about the person to whom you are 
> speaking, I would nevertheless admireâ€"even loveâ€"the person who was 
> capable of exhibiting such bright and intelligent feeling. What strikes me 
> most in this post is the disarming boldness and coherence with which you make 
> your appeal. There is not a touch of sentimentality or self-confusion here. I 
> think it quite an extraordinary proof of the depth of personality and powers 
> of self-command that you possess.
> 
> I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at what I 
> am trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology. Even the fact 
> of how you come across hereâ€"in the way in which I have interpreted 
> youâ€"says something positive about Judy. Because had it not been 
> appropriateâ€"or somehow excessiveâ€"for you to write in this way to 
> herâ€"then your post would have suffered from its very ambition: namely to do 
> justice to another human being.
> 
> That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who she is as 
> a person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my sense of who the 
> person must be who was capable of putting themselves in the position you have 
> and then finding the grace to write what cannot be misunderstood, what seems 
> to almost perfectly fulfil its very real intention.
> 
> Judy,
> 
> I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing you of
> censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back and correct 
> me. I
> have no evidence to support such an accusation and you obviously don't behave
> that way. I also apologize for taking way too long to send this post, and hope
> it still qualifies as: "better late than never". I also want to thank the 
> three
> "R's", for helping me find my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and
> Ravi (rithmatic). As you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least 
> two
> angels; a very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who
> lives, rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most of 
> my
> airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's translucent, about
> the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows gardenias, and
> quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a dickhead; she does it in such
> an subtle way, its easy
> to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do this the
> Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It normally takes
> friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention to what she
> whispered---that might have 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[seventhray1]

Thanks Bob.  The feeling is mutual.  Right now I'm wrapped in the World
Series, and it's not going my (our) way.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for this, FFL is always a better place when you're posting.
>
>
> 
> From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:36:46 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology
>
>
>
> Bob,
> Meant to comment.  This was amazing.  I've played it many
times.
>
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satin+dollz+whatever+lola+wa\
nts+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l14\
672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> >
> >
> >
> > Judy,
> >
> >
> > I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing
you of censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back
and correct me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and you
obviously don't behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too
long to send this post, and hope it still qualifies as: "better late
than never". I also want to thank the three "R's", for helping me find
my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and Ravi (rithmatic). As
you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two angels; a
very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who lives,
rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most of my
airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's translucent,
about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows
gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a
dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
> > to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do
this the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It
normally takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention
to what she whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm
sorry.
> >
> >
> >
> > Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy
something the wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you
don't mind me saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
> >
>
> Â  Â
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[Ravi Yogi]

Hard to believe :-) but I will take it. I'm not really demanding but 
considering my narcissism you could have at least popped in once in a while to 
praise my posts :-)


On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:20 AM, "seventhray1"  wrote:

> Thanks Rav.  I guess I just didn't have anything to say.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
> >
> > Aah finally, Steve where the heck have you been - I was thinking of
> > sending a personal email to you.
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Specifically
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWy8dga4kg
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bob,
> > > >
> > > > Meant to comment. This was amazing. I've played it many times.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satin+dollz+whatever+lola+wa\
> > \
> > > \
> > > >
> > >
> > nts+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l14\
> > \
> > > \
> > > > 672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0
> > > >
> > >
> >  > \
> > > \
> > > >
> > >
> > ants+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l1\
> > \
> > > \
> > > > 4672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Judy,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I
> > made---accusing
> > > > you of censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push
> > back
> > > > and correct me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and
> > > you
> > > > obviously don't behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too
> > > > long to send this post, and hope it still qualifies as: "better late
> > > > than never". I also want to thank the three "R's", for helping me
> > find
> > > > my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and Ravi
> > (rithmatic).
> > > As
> > > > you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two angels; a
> > > > very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who
> > > lives,
> > > > rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most
> > of
> > > my
> > > > airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's
> > > translucent,
> > > > about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows
> > > > gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a
> > > > dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
> > > > > to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I
> > do
> > > > this the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is).
> > It
> > > > normally takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any
> > attention
> > > > to what she whispered---that might have saved me. In other
> > words---I'm
> > > > sorry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy
> > > > something the wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you
> > > don't
> > > > mind me saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[Bob Price]

Robin---




As always---thank you, your talent for predicting the future continues to amaze.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuvPpzPiIec



From: maskedzebra 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:30:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology



Dear Bob Price,

There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will not like this 
apology. Not because of the way you have expressed yourself, but because of to 
whom it is addressed. Now I happen to appreciate the clarity and impartiality 
in most of what Judy writes; and certainly there is no one here on FFL who, in 
some formal sense at least, is a better writer than she is.

But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about the person 
that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters at FFL who can 
imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with this kind of humility, 
sincerity, and intelligence—that is, inside the context of expiating for some 
self-judged wrong against another person. Did I know nothing about you; did I 
know nothing about the person to whom you are speaking, I would nevertheless 
admire—even love—the person who was capable of exhibiting such bright and 
intelligent feeling. What strikes me most in this post is the disarming 
boldness and coherence with which you make your appeal. There is not a touch of 
sentimentality or self-confusion here. I think it quite an extraordinary proof 
of the depth of personality and powers of self-command that you possess.

I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at what I am 
trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology. Even the fact of how 
you come across here—in the way in which I have interpreted you—says something 
positive about Judy. Because had it not been appropriate—or somehow 
excessive—for you to write in this way to her—then your post would have 
suffered from its very ambition: namely to do justice to another human being.

That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who she is as a 
person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my sense of who the 
person must be who was capable of putting themselves in the position you have 
and then finding the grace to write what cannot be misunderstood, what seems to 
almost perfectly fulfil its very real intention.

Judy,

I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing you of
censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back and correct me. I
have no evidence to support such an accusation and you obviously don't behave
that way. I also apologize for taking way too long to send this post, and hope
it still qualifies as: "better late than never". I also want to thank the three
"R's", for helping me find my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and
Ravi (rithmatic). As you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two
angels; a very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who
lives, rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most of my
airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's translucent, about
the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows gardenias, and
quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a dickhead; she does it in such
an subtle way, its easy
to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do this the
Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It normally takes
friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention to what she
whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm sorry.

Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy something the
wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:

"You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".

It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you don't mind me
saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE


   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[Bob Price]

Steve,




Thanks for this, FFL is always a better place when you're posting.



From: seventhray1 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:36:46 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology



Bob,
Meant to comment.  This was amazing.  I've played it many times.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satin+dollz+whatever+lola+wants+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l14672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> Judy,
> 
> 
> I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing you of 
> censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back and correct 
> me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and you obviously don't 
> behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too long to send this post, 
> and hope it still qualifies as: "better late than never". I also want to 
> thank the three "R's", for helping me find my better angel; Rory (reading), 
> Robin (riting) and Ravi (rithmatic). As you may have guessed; my head is 
> populated by at least two angels; a very dark troll-like one (about the size 
> of a sumo wrestler) who lives, rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very 
> noisy and get's most of my airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel 
> lives, she's translucent, about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light 
> beautifully, grows gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to 
> be a dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
> to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do this the 
> Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It normally takes 
> friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention to what she 
> whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm sorry. 
> 
> 
> 
> Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy something the 
> wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts". 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you don't mind me 
> saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
>

    

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Judy, I misinterpreted the association with "What Lola Wants
> Lola Gets". Steve was not mocking Bob.

OIC! I might have made the same mistake had I not vaguely
remembered Bob having included a link to that video in
one of his previous posts (about your conversation with
Curtis). So I figured Steve was just piggybacking on Bob's
apology post to tell Bob he'd liked it (Steve hasn't been
here for awhile, and this saved him the trouble of going
back to find Bob's post with the link).

> I apologize to all. Maybe my post can serve (we will never
> know) a preemptive function here. I just felt the shock of 
> experiencing someone who had *entirely eliminated the sense
> of pride* in his apology.

That he did. Kudos to him.

> I evidently drew too precipitately the conclusion that Steve
> was implying something (by the reference to Lola) that I felt 
> ignored shamefully the real significance of Bob's post. This 
> morning I can't even find exactly what it was which made me 
> misinterpret Steve.

Perhaps you perceived a suggestion that Bob was abjectly
submitting to my all-powerful will (i.e., whatever Judy
wants, Judy gets)? That's pretty funny, if so. It's the
kind of remark Steve might well make, so it actually
makes a sort of sense.

> Nevertheless, as I am sure you know, there will be persons
> known to yourself who will not like Bob having done what
> he did. And, as I say, perhaps my post will deter these
> good people from acting like hungry jackals.

I doubt it. The hungry jackals here are incapable of
behaving any other way (see Barry's most recent troll,
for example, which is surely meant to include my exchange
with Bob).

Just another day on FFL...

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[maskedzebra]

 Judy,

The explanation for the two versions [I assuming all 3 will show up at FFL] is 
that the first post got so delayed that I thought (because this has happened in 
the past) that in the intricate mechanical providence of everything, it had 
just vanished clean out of creation. So now, instead of one post, you get 
three. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Bob Price,
> > 
> > There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will
> > not like this apology. Not because of the way you have
> > expressed yourself, but because of to whom it is addressed.
> 
> Evidenced already? Not that I've seen.
> 
> I agree, it was a lovely apology.
> 
> And thanks also for the kind words...
> 
> 
> > Now I happen to appreciate the clarity and impartiality in most of what 
> > Judy writes; and certainly there is no one here on FFL who, in some formal 
> > sense at least, is a better writer than she is.
> > 
> > But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about the 
> > person that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters at FFL 
> > who can imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with this kind of 
> > humility, sincerity, and intelligence—that is, inside the context of 
> > expiating for some self-judged wrong against another person. Did I know 
> > nothing about you; did I know nothing about the person to whom you are 
> > speaking, I would nevertheless admire—even love—the person who was capable 
> > of exhibiting such bright and intelligent feeling. What strikes me most in 
> > this post is the disarming boldness and coherence with which you make your 
> > appeal. There is not a touch of sentimentality or self-confusion here. I 
> > think it quite an extraordinary proof of the depth of personality and 
> > powers of self-command that you possess.
> > 
> > I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at what I 
> > am trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology. Even the fact 
> > of how you come across here—in the way in which I have interpreted you—says 
> > something positive about Judy. Because had it not been appropriate—or 
> > somehow excessive—for you to write in this way to her—then your post would 
> > have suffered from its very ambition: namely to do justice to another human 
> > being.
> > 
> > That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who she is 
> > as a person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my sense of who 
> > the person must be who was capable of putting themselves in the position 
> > you have and then finding the grace to write what cannot be misunderstood, 
> > what seems to almost perfectly fulfil its very real intention.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[maskedzebra]

I mistakenly interpreted the reference to What Lola Wants Lola Gets. 

Nevertheless, perhaps my post will serve a preemptive purpose (even if there 
actually is no evidence of a negative reaction to Bob's post—so far).

I feel certain there are persons out there who will resent Bob having humbled 
himself before you in this clean and unequivocal manner.

Perhaps what made me jump too soon was my wish to protect Bob from these hungry 
jackals who might wish to feast upon this display of such unselfconscious 
vulnerability.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Bob Price,
> > 
> > There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will
> > not like this apology. Not because of the way you have
> > expressed yourself, but because of to whom it is addressed.
> 
> Evidenced already? Not that I've seen.
> 
> I agree, it was a lovely apology.
> 
> And thanks also for the kind words...
> 
> 
> > Now I happen to appreciate the clarity and impartiality in most of what 
> > Judy writes; and certainly there is no one here on FFL who, in some formal 
> > sense at least, is a better writer than she is.
> > 
> > But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about the 
> > person that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters at FFL 
> > who can imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with this kind of 
> > humility, sincerity, and intelligence—that is, inside the context of 
> > expiating for some self-judged wrong against another person. Did I know 
> > nothing about you; did I know nothing about the person to whom you are 
> > speaking, I would nevertheless admire—even love—the person who was capable 
> > of exhibiting such bright and intelligent feeling. What strikes me most in 
> > this post is the disarming boldness and coherence with which you make your 
> > appeal. There is not a touch of sentimentality or self-confusion here. I 
> > think it quite an extraordinary proof of the depth of personality and 
> > powers of self-command that you possess.
> > 
> > I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at what I 
> > am trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology. Even the fact 
> > of how you come across here—in the way in which I have interpreted you—says 
> > something positive about Judy. Because had it not been appropriate—or 
> > somehow excessive—for you to write in this way to her—then your post would 
> > have suffered from its very ambition: namely to do justice to another human 
> > being.
> > 
> > That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who she is 
> > as a person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my sense of who 
> > the person must be who was capable of putting themselves in the position 
> > you have and then finding the grace to write what cannot be misunderstood, 
> > what seems to almost perfectly fulfil its very real intention.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[Bob Price]

Judy,



Thank you for being so generous, with me, and with your contributions on FFL.



From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:50:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An apology



Bob--

This was a nice surprise, a very gracious apology
that can't have been easy for you to make. Thank
you, it's accepted.

I couldn't figure out what the hell was up with you,
but I'm glad for both our sakes that you've dealt
with it. I think one way or another we've all got a
sumo wrestler yelling in one ear and a hummingbird
murmuring softly in the other, and it's often tough
to get the listening balance right.

I have heard the opinion vs. fact quote; it's one of
my favorites. A political blog I read on a regular
basis has it as kind of a motto.

And I very much appreciate the comparison to Karen. I
must confess, though, I don't bite my lip before I
shoot. ;-)

That's quite a clip. I should watch the film again;
thanks for reminding me of it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> Judy,
> 
> 
> I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing you of 
> censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back and correct 
> me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and you obviously don't 
> behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too long to send this post, 
> and hope it still qualifies as: "better late than never". I also want to 
> thank the three "R's", for helping me find my better angel; Rory (reading), 
> Robin (riting) and Ravi (rithmatic). As you may have guessed; my head is 
> populated by at least two angels; a very dark troll-like one (about the size 
> of a sumo wrestler) who lives, rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very 
> noisy and get's most of my airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel 
> lives, she's translucent, about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light 
> beautifully, grows gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to 
> be a dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
>  to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do this 
>the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It normally 
>takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention to what she 
>whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm sorry. 
> 
> 
> 
> Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy something the 
> wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts". 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you don't mind me 
> saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
>


     

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[maskedzebra]

Judy, I misinterpreted the association with "What Lola Wants Lola Gets". Steve 
was not mocking Bob. I apologize to all. Maybe my post can serve (we will never 
know) a preemptive function here. I just felt the shock of experiencing someone 
who had *entirely eliminated the sense of pride* in his apology. I evidently 
drew too precipitately the conclusion that Steve was implying something (by the 
reference to Lola) that I felt ignored shamefully the real significance of 
Bob's post. This morning I can't even find exactly what it was which made me 
misinterpret Steve. Nevertheless, as I am sure you know, there will be persons 
known to yourself who will not like Bob having done what he did. And, as I say, 
perhaps my post will deter these good people from acting like hungry jackals. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Bob Price,
> > 
> > There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will
> > not like this apology. Not because of the way you have
> > expressed yourself, but because of to whom it is addressed.
> 
> Evidenced already? Not that I've seen.
> 
> I agree, it was a lovely apology.
> 
> And thanks also for the kind words...
> 
> 
> > Now I happen to appreciate the clarity and impartiality in most of what 
> > Judy writes; and certainly there is no one here on FFL who, in some formal 
> > sense at least, is a better writer than she is.
> > 
> > But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about the 
> > person that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters at FFL 
> > who can imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with this kind of 
> > humility, sincerity, and intelligence—that is, inside the context of 
> > expiating for some self-judged wrong against another person. Did I know 
> > nothing about you; did I know nothing about the person to whom you are 
> > speaking, I would nevertheless admire—even love—the person who was capable 
> > of exhibiting such bright and intelligent feeling. What strikes me most in 
> > this post is the disarming boldness and coherence with which you make your 
> > appeal. There is not a touch of sentimentality or self-confusion here. I 
> > think it quite an extraordinary proof of the depth of personality and 
> > powers of self-command that you possess.
> > 
> > I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at what I 
> > am trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology. Even the fact 
> > of how you come across here—in the way in which I have interpreted you—says 
> > something positive about Judy. Because had it not been appropriate—or 
> > somehow excessive—for you to write in this way to her—then your post would 
> > have suffered from its very ambition: namely to do justice to another human 
> > being.
> > 
> > That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who she is 
> > as a person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my sense of who 
> > the person must be who was capable of putting themselves in the position 
> > you have and then finding the grace to write what cannot be misunderstood, 
> > what seems to almost perfectly fulfil its very real intention.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[seventhray1]

Thanks Rav.  I guess I just didn't have anything to say.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
>
> Aah finally, Steve where the heck have you been - I was thinking of
> sending a personal email to you.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Specifically
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWy8dga4kg
> > 
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > Meant to comment. This was amazing. I've played it many times.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satin+dollz+whatever+lola+wa\
\
> \
> > \
> > >
> >
>
nts+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l14\
\
> \
> > \
> > > 672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0
> > >
> >
>
 \
> > \
> > >
> >
>
ants+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l1\
\
> \
> > \
> > > 4672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Judy,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I
> made---accusing
> > > you of censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push
> back
> > > and correct me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation
and
> > you
> > > obviously don't behave that way. I also apologize for taking way
too
> > > long to send this post, and hope it still qualifies as: "better
late
> > > than never". I also want to thank the three "R's", for helping me
> find
> > > my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and Ravi
> (rithmatic).
> > As
> > > you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two angels;
a
> > > very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who
> > lives,
> > > rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most
> of
> > my
> > > airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's
> > translucent,
> > > about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully,
grows
> > > gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a
> > > dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
> > > > to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time
I
> do
> > > this the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is).
> It
> > > normally takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any
> attention
> > > to what she whispered---that might have saved me. In other
> words---I'm
> > > sorry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy
> > > something the wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you
> > don't
> > > mind me saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[seventhray1]

Thanks  (-:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote:
> >
> > Aah finally, Steve where the heck have you been
>
> Second that. Glad you're back, Steve.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Dear Bob Price,
> 
> There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will
> not like this apology. Not because of the way you have
> expressed yourself, but because of to whom it is addressed.

Evidenced already? Not that I've seen.

I agree, it was a lovely apology.

And thanks also for the kind words...


> Now I happen to appreciate the clarity and impartiality in most of what Judy 
> writes; and certainly there is no one here on FFL who, in some formal sense 
> at least, is a better writer than she is.
> 
> But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about the 
> person that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters at FFL 
> who can imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with this kind of 
> humility, sincerity, and intelligence—that is, inside the context of 
> expiating for some self-judged wrong against another person. Did I know 
> nothing about you; did I know nothing about the person to whom you are 
> speaking, I would nevertheless admire—even love—the person who was capable of 
> exhibiting such bright and intelligent feeling. What strikes me most in this 
> post is the disarming boldness and coherence with which you make your appeal. 
> There is not a touch of sentimentality or self-confusion here. I think it 
> quite an extraordinary proof of the depth of personality and powers of 
> self-command that you possess.
> 
> I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at what I 
> am trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology. Even the fact 
> of how you come across here—in the way in which I have interpreted you—says 
> something positive about Judy. Because had it not been appropriate—or somehow 
> excessive—for you to write in this way to her—then your post would have 
> suffered from its very ambition: namely to do justice to another human being.
> 
> That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who she is as 
> a person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my sense of who the 
> person must be who was capable of putting themselves in the position you have 
> and then finding the grace to write what cannot be misunderstood, what seems 
> to almost perfectly fulfil its very real intention.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
>
> Aah finally, Steve where the heck have you been

Second that. Glad you're back, Steve.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[authfriend]

Bob--

This was a nice surprise, a very gracious apology
that can't have been easy for you to make. Thank
you, it's accepted.

I couldn't figure out what the hell was up with you,
but I'm glad for both our sakes that you've dealt
with it. I think one way or another we've all got a
sumo wrestler yelling in one ear and a hummingbird
murmuring softly in the other, and it's often tough
to get the listening balance right.

I have heard the opinion vs. fact quote; it's one of
my favorites. A political blog I read on a regular
basis has it as kind of a motto.

And I very much appreciate the comparison to Karen. I
must confess, though, I don't bite my lip before I
shoot. ;-)

That's quite a clip. I should watch the film again;
thanks for reminding me of it.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> 
> 
> 
> Judy,
> 
> 
> I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing you of 
> censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back and correct 
> me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and you obviously don't 
> behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too long to send this post, 
> and hope it still qualifies as: "better late than never". I also want to 
> thank the three "R's", for helping me find my better angel; Rory (reading), 
> Robin (riting) and Ravi (rithmatic). As you may have guessed; my head is 
> populated by at least two angels; a very dark troll-like one (about the size 
> of a sumo wrestler) who lives, rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very 
> noisy and get's most of my airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel 
> lives, she's translucent, about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light 
> beautifully, grows gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to 
> be a dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
>  to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do this 
> the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It normally 
> takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention to what she 
> whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm sorry. 
> 
> 
> 
> Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy something the 
> wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts". 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you don't mind me 
> saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[maskedzebra]

Dear Bob Price,

There will be (as evidenced already) persons at FFL who will not like this 
apology. Not because of the way you have expressed yourself, but because of to 
whom it is addressed. Now I happen to appreciate the clarity and impartiality 
in most of what Judy writes; and certainly there is no one here on FFL who, in 
some formal sense at least, is a better writer than she is.

But what I wish to draw attention to is what this post reveals about the person 
that you are. I doubt there are very many readers and posters at FFL who can 
imagine themselves under any circumstance writing with this kind of humility, 
sincerity, and intelligence—that is, inside the context of expiating for some 
self-judged wrong against another person. Did I know nothing about you; did I 
know nothing about the person to whom you are speaking, I would nevertheless 
admire—even love—the person who was capable of exhibiting such bright and 
intelligent feeling. What strikes me most in this post is the disarming 
boldness and coherence with which you make your appeal. There is not a touch of 
sentimentality or self-confusion here. I think it quite an extraordinary proof 
of the depth of personality and powers of self-command that you possess.

I should have anticipated the response, which instead of catching at what I am 
trying to describe, focuses on the object of your apology. Even the fact of how 
you come across here—in the way in which I have interpreted you—says something 
positive about Judy. Because had it not been appropriate—or somehow 
excessive—for you to write in this way to her—then your post would have 
suffered from its very ambition: namely to do justice to another human being.

That Judy could bring this out from within you, is a measure of who she is as a 
person. But what imperially forces me to speak here is my sense of who the 
person must be who was capable of putting themselves in the position you have 
and then finding the grace to write what cannot be misunderstood, what seems to 
almost perfectly fulfil its very real intention.



Judy,


I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing you of
censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back and correct me. I
have no evidence to support such an accusation and you obviously don't behave
that way. I also apologize for taking way too long to send this post, and hope
it still qualifies as: "better late than never". I also want to thank the three
"R's", for helping me find my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and
Ravi (rithmatic). As you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two
angels; a very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who
lives, rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most of my
airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's translucent, about
the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows gardenias, and
quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a dickhead; she does it in such
an subtle way, its easy
to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do this the
Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It normally takes
friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention to what she
whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm sorry.



Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy something the
wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:




"You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".




It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you don't mind me
saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[Ravi Yogi]

Aah finally, Steve where the heck have you been - I was thinking of
sending a personal email to you.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
wrote:
>
>
> Specifically
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWy8dga4kg
> 
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Meant to comment. This was amazing. I've played it many times.
> >
> >
>
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satin+dollz+whatever+lola+wa\
\
> \
> >
>
nts+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l14\
\
> \
> > 672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0
> >
>
 \
> >
>
ants+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l1\
\
> \
> > 4672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Judy,
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I
made---accusing
> > you of censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push
back
> > and correct me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and
> you
> > obviously don't behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too
> > long to send this post, and hope it still qualifies as: "better late
> > than never". I also want to thank the three "R's", for helping me
find
> > my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and Ravi
(rithmatic).
> As
> > you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two angels; a
> > very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who
> lives,
> > rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most
of
> my
> > airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's
> translucent,
> > about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows
> > gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a
> > dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
> > > to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I
do
> > this the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is).
It
> > normally takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any
attention
> > to what she whispered---that might have saved me. In other
words---I'm
> > sorry.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy
> > something the wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you
> don't
> > mind me saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[seventhray1]

Specifically

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWy8dga4kg



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Meant to comment. This was amazing. I've played it many times.
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satin+dollz+whatever+lola+wa\
\
>
nts+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l14\
\
> 672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0
>

ants+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l1\
\
> 4672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
> >
> >
> >
> > Judy,
> >
> >
> > I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing
> you of censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back
> and correct me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and
you
> obviously don't behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too
> long to send this post, and hope it still qualifies as: "better late
> than never". I also want to thank the three "R's", for helping me find
> my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and Ravi (rithmatic).
As
> you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two angels; a
> very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who
lives,
> rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most of
my
> airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's
translucent,
> about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows
> gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a
> dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
> > to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do
> this the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It
> normally takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention
> to what she whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm
> sorry.
> >
> >
> >
> > Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy
> something the wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you
don't
> mind me saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An apology

[seventhray1]

Bob,

Meant to comment.  This was amazing.  I've played it many times.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satin+dollz+whatever+lola+wa\
nts+&oq=satin+doolz&aq=1sx&aqi=g-sx3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=6677l12852l0l14\
672l11l10l0l0l0l0l383l2567l2-6.3l9l0





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVP0uDh0i8&feature=related
>
>
>
> Judy,
>
>
> I want to apologize for my behavior and some posts I made---accusing
you of censorship; I was full of s*it and you were right to push back
and correct me. I have no evidence to support such an accusation and you
obviously don't behave that way. I also apologize for taking way too
long to send this post, and hope it still qualifies as: "better late
than never". I also want to thank the three "R's", for helping me find
my better angel; Rory (reading), Robin (riting) and Ravi (rithmatic). As
you may have guessed; my head is populated by at least two angels; a
very dark troll-like one (about the size of a sumo wrestler) who lives,
rent free, in my left hemispherehe's very noisy and get's most of my
airtime; in my right hemisphere, another angel lives, she's translucent,
about the size of a hummingbird---refracts light beautifully, grows
gardenias, and quietly warns me---just before I attempt to be a
dickhead; she does it in such an subtle way, its easy
> to ignore her, and I end up making a fool of myself. Every time I do
this the Sumo gains about 20 lbs (you can imagine, how big he is). It
normally takes friends like the three "R's' before I pay any attention
to what she whispered---that might have saved me. In other words---I'm
sorry.
>
>
>
> Unless you've heard this one already; I thought you might enjoy
something the wife (always a fan of yours) said to me yesterday:
>
>
>
>
> "You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts".
>
>
>
>
> It may be your gentleness, with our resident angels; I hope you don't
mind me saying; lately, you've reminded me of Karen:
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb6svoM3UWE
>