[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
I 've been watching and never heard him or anyone claim that the longitude is directly opposite.Just approximate latitude on the other side of the earth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, douglasportee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another mistaken claim is that Kansas is directly opposite of the Brahmastan of Madhya Pradesh in central India, about 23 degress North Latitude by 80 degress East Longitude. Even Dr. Hagelin says this. But the opposite side of the Earth is in the South Pacific Ocean, south of the Galapagos Islands, about 23 degrees South Latitude by 100 degrees West Longitude. You can easily see this by holding a globe between your two hands. One hand is in India, the other below the equator, in the Pacific Ocean. Even if you ignore the southern hemisphere, 100 degrees West Longitude at 23 degrees North is in Western Mexico. So AGAIN they are giving out misinformation that makes no sense. If I may offer this correction, Athol is not the closest town to Smith Center is the closest town to Lebanon, with a population of 1,931. Regardless, the center is no longer in Kansas, so it is a moot point. http://brahmastan.us --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Karen Hyde hyde_k@ wrote: Lebanon KS has population of 303. Athol KS, the nearest town, has a population of 51. By contrast Fairfield IA has 9,509 people. Topeka KS is 220 miles (4 hours) from Lebanon KS. Topeka is smaller than Cedar Rapids. And MUM students think they are in the boonies? At least MIU could build upon the existing Parsons Campus. So there were already Dormitories, Dining Hall, Classrooms, Library, Gymnasium, etc. Lebanon Kansas has nothing. There is NOTHING to do there in Kansas. Any students (much less the top students) who go there will lack intellectual and cultural stimulation, and leave. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 4:31 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I think the most likely outcome is that the TMO will get a few concessions from local authorities and the state of KS for a token presence here in hopes that someday a big school, which would be good for the economy of KS, actually does appear in the weeds. I hope it's somewhere near Topeka. That way, when the delusions finally give way to something approaching reality, they can just pop on over to Menninger's. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, douglasportee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://brahmastan.us I emailed that URL to my brother, the Raja of Denver, and he replied, Yes, the Brahmasthan that we are using is for the contiguous lower 48 states, not including Alaska and Hawaii. So, they are aware of this and are choosing, for whatever reason, to use the 48 state center.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, douglasportee douglasportee@ wrote: http://brahmastan.us I emailed that URL to my brother, the Raja of Denver, and he replied, Yes, the Brahmasthan that we are using is for the contiguous lower 48 states, not including Alaska and Hawaii. So, they are aware of this and are choosing, for whatever reason, to use the 48 state center. Except when it comes to raising money, of course. Wouldn't want to miss out on that extra 20 mil for the Alaska and Hawaii campuses, no sirree bob.
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On Jan 21, 2007, at 10:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I emailed that URL to my brother, the Raja of Denver, and he replied, Yes, the Brahmasthan that we are using is for the contiguous lower 48 states, not including Alaska and Hawaii. So, they are aware of this and are choosing, for whatever reason, to use the 48 state center. Except when it comes to raising money, of course. Wouldn't want to miss out on that extra 20 mil for the Alaska and Hawaii campuses, no sirree bob. I would guess they are using only the lower 48 because to include Alaska and Hawaii would move the campus significantly farther west, towards some land that's beautiful and where people might actually have some fun, instead of in the bleakest part of the country, where there's nothing at all and nothing to do. It's all part of their usual MO of getting the cheapest land possible, and then attempting to convince people they *have* to go there. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, douglasportee douglasportee@ wrote: http://brahmastan.us I emailed that URL to my brother, the Raja of Denver, and he replied, Yes, the Brahmasthan that we are using is for the contiguous lower 48 states, not including Alaska and Hawaii. So, they are aware of this and are choosing, for whatever reason, to use the 48 state center. Except when it comes to raising money, of course. Wouldn't want to miss out on that extra 20 mil for the Alaska and Hawaii campuses, no sirree bob. Eh. 10,000 is allegedly enough to cover the whole world. At least they're not hitting up Mozambique for the money.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, douglasportee douglasportee@ wrote: http://brahmastan.us I emailed that URL to my brother, the Raja of Denver, and he replied, Yes, the Brahmasthan that we are using is for the contiguous lower 48 states, not including Alaska and Hawaii. So, they are aware of this and are choosing, for whatever reason, to use the 48 state center. Maybe because itis the easiest and cheapest tobuy/build on?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, douglasportee douglasportee@ wrote: http://brahmastan.us I emailed that URL to my brother, the Raja of Denver, and he replied, Yes, the Brahmasthan that we are using is for the contiguous lower 48 states, not including Alaska and Hawaii. So, they are aware of this and are choosing, for whatever reason, to use the 48 state center. Maybe because itis the easiest and cheapest tobuy/build on? Or maybe some theory of geographical contiguity being more important for a brahmastan than political integrity (not sure that's the right term)?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
Lebanon KS has population of 303. Athol KS, the nearest town, has a population of 51. By contrast Fairfield IA has 9,509 people. Topeka KS is 220 miles (4 hours) from Lebanon KS. Topeka is smaller than Cedar Rapids. And MUM students think they are in the boonies? At least MIU could build upon the existing Parsons Campus. So there were already Dormitories, Dining Hall, Classrooms, Library, Gymnasium, etc. Lebanon Kansas has nothing. There is NOTHING to do there in Kansas. Any students (much less the top students) who go there will lack intellectual and cultural stimulation, and leave. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 4:31 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I think the most likely outcome is that the TMO will get a few concessions from local authorities and the state of KS for a token presence here in hopes that someday a big school, which would be good for the economy of KS, actually does appear in the weeds. I hope it's somewhere near Topeka. That way, when the delusions finally give way to something approaching reality, they can just pop on over to Menninger's. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
Another mistaken claim is that Kansas is directly opposite of the Brahmastan of Madhya Pradesh in central India, about 23 degress North Latitude by 80 degress East Longitude. Even Dr. Hagelin says this. But the opposite side of the Earth is in the South Pacific Ocean, south of the Galapagos Islands, about 23 degrees South Latitude by 100 degrees West Longitude. You can easily see this by holding a globe between your two hands. One hand is in India, the other below the equator, in the Pacific Ocean. Even if you ignore the southern hemisphere, 100 degrees West Longitude at 23 degrees North is in Western Mexico. So AGAIN they are giving out misinformation that makes no sense. If I may offer this correction, Athol is not the closest town to Smith Center is the closest town to Lebanon, with a population of 1,931. Regardless, the center is no longer in Kansas, so it is a moot point. http://brahmastan.us --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Karen Hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lebanon KS has population of 303. Athol KS, the nearest town, has a population of 51. By contrast Fairfield IA has 9,509 people. Topeka KS is 220 miles (4 hours) from Lebanon KS. Topeka is smaller than Cedar Rapids. And MUM students think they are in the boonies? At least MIU could build upon the existing Parsons Campus. So there were already Dormitories, Dining Hall, Classrooms, Library, Gymnasium, etc. Lebanon Kansas has nothing. There is NOTHING to do there in Kansas. Any students (much less the top students) who go there will lack intellectual and cultural stimulation, and leave. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 4:31 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I think the most likely outcome is that the TMO will get a few concessions from local authorities and the state of KS for a token presence here in hopes that someday a big school, which would be good for the economy of KS, actually does appear in the weeds. I hope it's somewhere near Topeka. That way, when the delusions finally give way to something approaching reality, they can just pop on over to Menninger's. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
Dr. Hagelin majored in Physics, not Geography! Conversely, the opposite side of Kansas is in the ocean off Western Australia, not India. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, douglasportee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another mistaken claim is that Kansas is directly opposite of the Brahmastan of Madhya Pradesh in central India, about 23 degress North Latitude by 80 degress East Longitude. Even Dr. Hagelin says this. But the opposite side of the Earth is in the South Pacific Ocean, south of the Galapagos Islands, about 23 degrees South Latitude by 100 degrees West Longitude. You can easily see this by holding a globe between your two hands. One hand is in India, the other below the equator, in the Pacific Ocean. Even if you ignore the southern hemisphere, 100 degrees West Longitude at 23 degrees North is in Western Mexico. So AGAIN they are giving out misinformation that makes no sense. If I may offer this correction, Athol is not the closest town to Smith Center is the closest town to Lebanon, with a population of 1,931. Regardless, the center is no longer in Kansas, so it is a moot point. http://brahmastan.us --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Karen Hyde hyde_k@ wrote: Lebanon KS has population of 303. Athol KS, the nearest town, has a population of 51. By contrast Fairfield IA has 9,509 people. Topeka KS is 220 miles (4 hours) from Lebanon KS. Topeka is smaller than Cedar Rapids. And MUM students think they are in the boonies? At least MIU could build upon the existing Parsons Campus. So there were already Dormitories, Dining Hall, Classrooms, Library, Gymnasium, etc. Lebanon Kansas has nothing. There is NOTHING to do there in Kansas. Any students (much less the top students) who go there will lack intellectual and cultural stimulation, and leave. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 4:31 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I think the most likely outcome is that the TMO will get a few concessions from local authorities and the state of KS for a token presence here in hopes that someday a big school, which would be good for the economy of KS, actually does appear in the weeds. I hope it's somewhere near Topeka. That way, when the delusions finally give way to something approaching reality, they can just pop on over to Menninger's. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
So much Blah blah. The only problem with this university is that it isn't going to have any students and they'll want the faculty to teach these nonexistent students for free. --- allanrosenzweig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: top, 'first-class' intelligentsia know their Geography and American History. KS has not been the center since 1959. http://Brahmasthan.us --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grand new plans unfolding rapidly for construction of 'premier, flagship university' at US Brahmasthan by Global Good news staff writer Global Country of World Peace 18 January 2007 The complete, detailed plans for the new Central University to be built at the Brahmasthan (centre) of the US in Kansaswhich 'welled up like a tidal wave' in their entirety under the inspiration of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (http://maharishi- programmes.globalgoodnews.com/achievements) during the Global Celebrations on 13 January 2007have been rapidly unfolding in the ensuing days. This will be the 'premier, flagship university' of the United States, in the words of His Excellency Dr John Hagelin, Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace and President of the US Peace Government, during Maharishi's Global Family Chat on 14 January. The whole campus will be 'stately, grand, and beautiful', with first- class accommodations and 'royal construction' in gleaming white marble, according to the design by His Excellency Dr Eike Hartmann, Minister of Architecture and City Planning of the Global Country. There will be one grand, unified campus integrating the whole country, comprising 50 smaller campuses for 200 students from each statea total of 10,000 students, all practising Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programme, including Yogic Flying. The layout of the campus will mirror the country itself: eastern states represented by campuses on the eastern side; western states by campuses on the western side, etc. Both the campus and the curriculum will attract the very top, 'first- class' intelligentsia of the world at the undergraduate and graduate levels, and will train the highest calibre of supreme leadership for the nation through Maharishi's Vedic Science and its applied values in the modern scientific disciplines. (A forthcoming Global Good News/Excellence in Action article will describe the curriculum more fully.) Dr Hagelin explained that the university will be functioning by Guru Purnima this July, and will be open to enrol students at the start of the academic year in August or September. Construction costs for each of the 50 campuses are estimated at approximately US$10 million, with overall construction of the entire campus about one-half billion US$. Raja Wynne, Raja of Vedic America (the domain of the Global Country encompassing the central plains states, including Kansas), said that construction will be financed through a combination of 75 per cent bank financing and 25 per cent$150 millionshared among the 50 states. A national initiative is underway, under the leadership of all the Rajas of US domains, to accomplish the initial financing for the whole project within the first 100 hours. Well-wishers of peace and invincibility in each state are taking responsibility to raise $3 million for their state's campus at the Brahmasthan, through investment in high-yield, tax-exempt bonds underwritten by the state of Kansas; donations; and grants from educational foundations. Dr Hagelin and Raja Wynne expressed their deepest gratitude to the Governor of the State of Kansas, one of whose first official acts after re-election was to sign the document authorizing sale of tax- exempt bonds in Kansas, which had been previously organized for building on the Brahmasthan land. Dr Hagelin praised her 'wonderful cooperation and great vision' to recognize the benefits of this projectnot only for the prestige, revenue, and quality of education in Kansasbut also for the peace and invincibility of the whole country and world. The 14 January Global Family Chat is being replayed every day this week on the Maharishi Channel; visit the home page www.mou.org for the daily schedule. For further details about the new university at the Brahmasthan, please also visit: www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html? art=1168748145387900 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Food fight?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
Fascinating. This places the actual physical center near the sacred site of Bear Butte--the place where Crazy Horse and Geronimo achieved siddhi--and one of the most powerful sacred sites I've ever experienced. Ritual activity in this area goes back over 10,000 years and is sacred to the Sioux and the Cheyenne. It's their Mt. Sinai. If you are ever in this area, it's worth the day hike or better, an overnight. It will blow your mind. There were still medicine men taking initiates in for the 3-day and night vigil and fast/visioning when I was there last--consequently you can only approach the summit by one path, as completely surrounding the path are hundreds of old magical circles in stone that various shamans had sat in over history. The trees all along the path are all strewn with cloth used to hold offerings to the Great Spirit. Bear Butte is unique in that to the east of it lies the high plains and to the west the Black Hills, so Bear Butte stands like a lone sentinel and gateway to the Black Hills. This is also where the cave where the sacred arrows were received. Unfortunately the US military used the cave for target practice in the last century and it is damaged but visitors to this day still spontaneously catch the smell of burning sweet grass. On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:09 AM, allanrosenzweig wrote: top, 'first-class' intelligentsia know their Geography and American History. KS has not been the center since 1959. http://Brahmasthan.us
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fascinating. This places the actual physical center near the sacred site of Bear Butte--the place where Crazy Horse and Geronimo achieved siddhi--and one of the most powerful sacred sites I've ever experienced. Ritual activity in this area goes back over 10,000 years and is sacred to the Sioux and the Cheyenne. It's their Mt. Sinai. If you are ever in this area, it's worth the day hike or better, an overnight. It will blow your mind. Vaj, your excellent description of the place below prompts me to ask whether you're familiar with the cult film Powwow Highway. One of the key scenes in the film takes place there, as Philbert (one of the best characters I've ever met in film) climbs Noahvose as part of his own odd vision quest. It's a really lovely movie; if you don't know it, you should definitely add it to your Netflix queue. There were still medicine men taking initiates in for the 3-day and night vigil and fast/visioning when I was there last-- consequently you can only approach the summit by one path, as completely surrounding the path are hundreds of old magical circles in stone that various shamans had sat in over history. The trees all along the path are all strewn with cloth used to hold offerings to the Great Spirit. Bear Butte is unique in that to the east of it lies the high plains and to the west the Black Hills, so Bear Butte stands like a lone sentinel and gateway to the Black Hills. This is also where the cave where the sacred arrows were received. Unfortunately the US military used the cave for target practice in the last century and it is damaged but visitors to this day still spontaneously catch the smell of burning sweet grass.
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On Jan 19, 2007, at 8:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fascinating. This places the actual physical center near the sacred site of Bear Butte--the place where Crazy Horse and Geronimo achieved siddhi--and one of the most powerful sacred sites I've ever experienced. Ritual activity in this area goes back over 10,000 years and is sacred to the Sioux and the Cheyenne. It's their Mt. Sinai. If you are ever in this area, it's worth the day hike or better, an overnight. It will blow your mind. Vaj, your excellent description of the place below prompts me to ask whether you're familiar with the cult film Powwow Highway. One of the key scenes in the film takes place there, as Philbert (one of the best characters I've ever met in film) climbs Noahvose as part of his own odd vision quest. It's a really lovely movie; if you don't know it, you should definitely add it to your Netflix queue. No I haven't but now I really want to see it, thanks! A couple of movies I've seen recently you might enjoy are (unrelated to the above, just great movies): Harvie Krumpet (a short, contact me offlist if you haven't). September 11 ( a collection of short films on 9/11 themes from all over the world). Have you seen Pan's Labyrinth (El Laberinto del Fauno) yet?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
If we stand really still we can feel the earth moving. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography Fascinating. This places the actual physical center near the sacred site of Bear Butte--the place where Crazy Horse and Geronimo achieved siddhi--and one of the most powerful sacred sites I've ever experienced. Ritual activity in this area goes back over 10,000 years and is sacred to the Sioux and the Cheyenne. It's their Mt. Sinai. If you are ever in this area, it's worth the day hike or better, an overnight. It will blow your mind. There were still medicine men taking initiates in for the 3-day and night vigil and fast/visioning when I was there last--consequently you can only approach the summit by one path, as completely surrounding the path are hundreds of old magical circles in stone that various shamans had sat in over history. The trees all along the path are all strewn with cloth used to hold offerings to the Great Spirit. Bear Butte is unique in that to the east of it lies the high plains and to the west the Black Hills, so Bear Butte stands like a lone sentinel and gateway to the Black Hills. This is also where the cave where the sacred arrows were received. Unfortunately the US military used the cave for target practice in the last century and it is damaged but visitors to this day still spontaneously catch the smell of burning sweet grass. On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:09 AM, allanrosenzweig wrote: top, 'first-class' intelligentsia know their Geography and American History. KS has not been the center since 1959. http://Brahmasthan.us
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 19, 2007, at 8:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Vaj, your excellent description of the place below prompts me to ask whether you're familiar with the cult film Powwow Highway. One of the key scenes in the film takes place there, as Philbert (one of the best characters I've ever met in film) climbs Noahvose as part of his own odd vision quest. It's a really lovely movie; if you don't know it, you should definitely add it to your Netflix queue. No I haven't but now I really want to see it, thanks! Read a few of the reviews on IMDB and you'll want to see it even more. It's an amazing movie. The director and many of the cast were Santa Fe locals and friends. Gary Farmer as Philbert is beyond excellent, and Graham Greene is equally moving as an Indian Vietnam Vet dealing with PTSD. It's one of the few good films about the Native American culture ever made, and an absolute delight as well for any spiritual seeker. A couple of movies I've seen recently you might enjoy are (unrelated to the above, just great movies): Harvie Krumpet (a short, contact me offlist if you haven't). September 11 ( a collection of short films on 9/11 themes from all over the world). Have you seen Pan's Labyrinth (El Laberinto del Fauno) yet? No to all of them. I'll search my Limewire sources for them, and I'll be able to check on the last one soon because I'm planning a trip to Barcelona.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we stand really still we can feel the earth moving. If you like that sensation, you should spend the night at Monument Valley or Canyon de Chelly or Chaco Canyon. It's amazing that the power of such places has not been dissapated by humans yet. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography Fascinating. This places the actual physical center near the sacred site of Bear Butte--the place where Crazy Horse and Geronimo achieved siddhi--and one of the most powerful sacred sites I've ever experienced. Ritual activity in this area goes back over 10,000 years and is sacred to the Sioux and the Cheyenne. It's their Mt. Sinai. If you are ever in this area, it's worth the day hike or better, an overnight. It will blow your mind. There were still medicine men taking initiates in for the 3-day and night vigil and fast/visioning when I was there last--consequently you can only approach the summit by one path, as completely surrounding the path are hundreds of old magical circles in stone that various shamans had sat in over history. The trees all along the path are all strewn with cloth used to hold offerings to the Great Spirit. Bear Butte is unique in that to the east of it lies the high plains and to the west the Black Hills, so Bear Butte stands like a lone sentinel and gateway to the Black Hills. This is also where the cave where the sacred arrows were received. Unfortunately the US military used the cave for target practice in the last century and it is damaged but visitors to this day still spontaneously catch the smell of burning sweet grass. On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:09 AM, allanrosenzweig wrote: top, 'first-class' intelligentsia know their Geography and American History. KS has not been the center since 1959. http://Brahmasthan.us
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Been to many of them. I spent much of my youth going camping with my mom. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we stand really still we can feel the earth moving. If you like that sensation, you should spend the night at Monument Valley or Canyon de Chelly or Chaco Canyon. It's amazing that the power of such places has not been dissapated by humans yet. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography Fascinating. This places the actual physical center near the sacred site of Bear Butte--the place where Crazy Horse and Geronimo achieved siddhi--and one of the most powerful sacred sites I've ever experienced. Ritual activity in this area goes back over 10,000 years and is sacred to the Sioux and the Cheyenne. It's their Mt. Sinai. If you are ever in this area, it's worth the day hike or better, an overnight. It will blow your mind. There were still medicine men taking initiates in for the 3-day and night vigil and fast/visioning when I was there last--consequently you can only approach the summit by one path, as completely surrounding the path are hundreds of old magical circles in stone that various shamans had sat in over history. The trees all along the path are all strewn with cloth used to hold offerings to the Great Spirit. Bear Butte is unique in that to the east of it lies the high plains and to the west the Black Hills, so Bear Butte stands like a lone sentinel and gateway to the Black Hills. This is also where the cave where the sacred arrows were received. Unfortunately the US military used the cave for target practice in the last century and it is damaged but visitors to this day still spontaneously catch the smell of burning sweet grass. On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:09 AM, allanrosenzweig wrote: top, 'first-class' intelligentsia know their Geography and American History. KS has not been the center since 1959. http://Brahmasthan.us To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much Blah blah. The only problem with this university is that it isn't going to have any students and they'll want the faculty to teach these nonexistent students for free. I'm wondering if this is the death knell for MUM...
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: So much Blah blah. The only problem with this university is that it isn't going to have any students and they'll want the faculty to teach these nonexistent students for free. I'm wondering if this is the death knell for MUM... Not likely. Notice that there's no mentiono f specifics for the curriculum.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: So much Blah blah. The only problem with this university is that it isn't going to have any students and they'll want the faculty to teach these nonexistent students for free. I'm wondering if this is the death knell for MUM... Not likely. Notice that there's no mentiono f specifics for the curriculum. Not likely because you have to be delusional to take it seriously. This is about the 10th time MMY has tried to start another grand campus in the US - usually in CA. Meanwhile a small group of dedicated individuals will keep MUM going at slightly above break even.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: So much Blah blah. The only problem with this university is that it isn't going to have any students and they'll want the faculty to teach these nonexistent students for free. I'm wondering if this is the death knell for MUM... Not likely. Notice that there's no mentiono f specifics for the curriculum. Not likely because you have to be delusional to take it seriously. This is about the 10th time MMY has tried to start another grand campus in the US - usually in CA. Meanwhile a small group of dedicated individuals will keep MUM going at slightly above break even. I AM reminded of Honey being hte only translator who could understand Mao from Doonesbury. He would command the destruction of the Great Wall, and she would inform him that she had enlisted 1 million workers to destroy it. They he would change his mind and she'd tell him that 5 million workers had rebuilt it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: So much Blah blah. The only problem with this university is that it isn't going to have any students and they'll want the faculty to teach these nonexistent students for free. I'm wondering if this is the death knell for MUM... *** It seems unlikely that the money for this project is going to happen within the foreseeable future, so MUM will continue -- the thinking being expressed on mou.org about the new school is just off-the-wall. For instance, it's being proposed that the 10,000 students get loans from Citibank before the school is actually built so that this $150 million in prepaid tuition could be the basis of the school's construction costs -- this ain't gonna happen. Also, in order to avoid having to go through the ordeal of accreditation for this new university, it would be declared a branch campus of MUM Fairfield, which will automatically transfer accreditation to the new school, in the unlikely event that it happens (and if it does, it will only be a small school for some time), so MUM will not be out of business (and most of that business is foreign students anyway, and the new school is for U.S. students). I think the most likely outcome is that the TMO will get a few concessions from local authorities and the state of KS for a token presence here in hopes that someday a big school, which would be good for the economy of KS, actually does appear in the weeds.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: So much Blah blah. The only problem with this university is that it isn't going to have any students and they'll want the faculty to teach these nonexistent students for free. I'm wondering if this is the death knell for MUM... *** It seems unlikely that the money for this project is going to happen within the foreseeable future, so MUM will continue -- the thinking being expressed on mou.org about the new school is just off-the- wall. For instance, it's being proposed that the 10,000 students get loans from Citibank before the school is actually built so that this $150 million in prepaid tuition could be the basis of the school's construction costs -- this ain't gonna happen. Also, in order to avoid having to go through the ordeal of accreditation for this new university, it would be declared a branch campus of MUM Fairfield, which will automatically transfer accreditation to the new school, in the unlikely event that it happens (and if it does, it will only be a small school for some time), so MUM will not be out of business (and most of that business is foreign students anyway, and the new school is for U.S. students). I think the most likely outcome is that the TMO will get a few concessions from local authorities and the state of KS for a token presence here in hopes that someday a big school, which would be good for the economy of KS, actually does appear in the weeds. Good to know. It wouldn't be great for Fairfield if MUM went bye-bye, I imagine.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
On Jan 19, 2007, at 4:31 PM, bob_brigante wrote: I think the most likely outcome is that the TMO will get a few concessions from local authorities and the state of KS for a token presence here in hopes that someday a big school, which would be good for the economy of KS, actually does appear in the weeds. I hope it's somewhere near Topeka. That way, when the delusions finally give way to something approaching reality, they can just pop on over to Menninger's. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
On Jan 19, 2007, at 5:45 PM, authfriend wrote: Good to know. It wouldn't be great for Fairfield if MUM went bye-bye, I imagine. Um, MUM went bye-bye some time ago, and the town has survived quite well. It wouldn't be good for the TMO, or whatever is left of it, if MUM closed shop. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ [...] I think the most likely outcome is that the TMO will get a few concessions from local authorities and the state of KS for a token presence here in hopes that someday a big school, which would be good for the economy of KS, actually does appear in the weeds. Good to know. It wouldn't be great for Fairfield if MUM went bye-bye, I imagine. They haven't even used the online press release facility to announce it, as yet. I don't think anyone is taking it too seriously, even within the TMO.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:47 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography So much Blah blah. The only problem with this university is that it isn't going to have any students and they'll want the faculty to teach these nonexistent students for free. What faculty? There aren't enough qualified academics in the movement to teach that many students. They would have to shell real world salaries to attract non-meditating faculty, and the latter, if they could be found, wouldn't be properly indoctrinated to teach the way MMY would want them to. They would have their own ideas about things and would see the TMO as a nuthouse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM school in KS to cost $500 million - top students know Geography
top, 'first-class' intelligentsia know their Geography and American History. KS has not been the center since 1959. http://Brahmasthan.us --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grand new plans unfolding rapidly for construction of 'premier, flagship university' at US Brahmasthan by Global Good news staff writer Global Country of World Peace 18 January 2007 The complete, detailed plans for the new Central University to be built at the Brahmasthan (centre) of the US in Kansaswhich 'welled up like a tidal wave' in their entirety under the inspiration of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (http://maharishi- programmes.globalgoodnews.com/achievements) during the Global Celebrations on 13 January 2007have been rapidly unfolding in the ensuing days. This will be the 'premier, flagship university' of the United States, in the words of His Excellency Dr John Hagelin, Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace and President of the US Peace Government, during Maharishi's Global Family Chat on 14 January. The whole campus will be 'stately, grand, and beautiful', with first- class accommodations and 'royal construction' in gleaming white marble, according to the design by His Excellency Dr Eike Hartmann, Minister of Architecture and City Planning of the Global Country. There will be one grand, unified campus integrating the whole country, comprising 50 smaller campuses for 200 students from each statea total of 10,000 students, all practising Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programme, including Yogic Flying. The layout of the campus will mirror the country itself: eastern states represented by campuses on the eastern side; western states by campuses on the western side, etc. Both the campus and the curriculum will attract the very top, 'first- class' intelligentsia of the world at the undergraduate and graduate levels, and will train the highest calibre of supreme leadership for the nation through Maharishi's Vedic Science and its applied values in the modern scientific disciplines. (A forthcoming Global Good News/Excellence in Action article will describe the curriculum more fully.) Dr Hagelin explained that the university will be functioning by Guru Purnima this July, and will be open to enrol students at the start of the academic year in August or September. Construction costs for each of the 50 campuses are estimated at approximately US$10 million, with overall construction of the entire campus about one-half billion US$. Raja Wynne, Raja of Vedic America (the domain of the Global Country encompassing the central plains states, including Kansas), said that construction will be financed through a combination of 75 per cent bank financing and 25 per cent$150 millionshared among the 50 states. A national initiative is underway, under the leadership of all the Rajas of US domains, to accomplish the initial financing for the whole project within the first 100 hours. Well-wishers of peace and invincibility in each state are taking responsibility to raise $3 million for their state's campus at the Brahmasthan, through investment in high-yield, tax-exempt bonds underwritten by the state of Kansas; donations; and grants from educational foundations. Dr Hagelin and Raja Wynne expressed their deepest gratitude to the Governor of the State of Kansas, one of whose first official acts after re-election was to sign the document authorizing sale of tax- exempt bonds in Kansas, which had been previously organized for building on the Brahmasthan land. Dr Hagelin praised her 'wonderful cooperation and great vision' to recognize the benefits of this projectnot only for the prestige, revenue, and quality of education in Kansasbut also for the peace and invincibility of the whole country and world. The 14 January Global Family Chat is being replayed every day this week on the Maharishi Channel; visit the home page www.mou.org for the daily schedule. For further details about the new university at the Brahmasthan, please also visit: www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html? art=1168748145387900
