Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: [snip] I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't like to play provider roulette which many people do. HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series! eyepatch mode ON I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch any American or British TV show I want to, from any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them all without ever having to see a single commercial. And I don't pay a penny for any of them. You guys are still talking about these pay cable and satellite services as if you need them. eyepatch mode OFF But we've got cops with nothing better to do than bust grannies who download an MP3.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: [snip] I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't like to play provider roulette which many people do. HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series! eyepatch mode ON I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch any American or British TV show I want to, from any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them all without ever having to see a single commercial. And I don't pay a penny for any of them. You guys are still talking about these pay cable and satellite services as if you need them. eyepatch mode OFF Perhaps because we don't want to break the law? I do pay for what I use. It's really that simple.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:11 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: A good point, if you have these shows available TO pay for. I do not. I would have to wait for 1-2 years to be able to see them either on over- priced DVDs (which I have to hack my DVD player to be able to play here) or broadcast on Spanish TV, dubbed. I also live in a country in which downloading these things for private use is NOT against the law. Technically, the only TV shows that you could be prosecuted for downloading in the US are the ones marked PREAIR, released before their broadcast date. No lawsuit has ever been filed for downloading already-broadcast TV shows. That's interesting and it does make a certain amount of sense for programs broadcast 'over the airwaves'. It however doesn't make sense for cable or satellite. Many people have been prosecuted for stealing cable. I remember when I rented my first apartment years ago, I signed up for cable. Later the cable company came after me for cable theft. So I called them up: here all the other tenants had tapped into my cable and so the cable company came after me. And I was the ONLY one legally paying for it! Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi- cation? I have. :-) Yes, I've seen all of them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Richard M wrote: Yes I agree. It's only money after all! I have enjoyed The Wire so much - the price is of no consequence. And if everyone worked a flanker and got it gratis, would such programs ever get made? Enlightened self-interest I'd say. Yes. I like contributing $$$ to things I enjoy. I support the arts! :-) (Is there not a parallel here with TMO? Is it better for the Knowledge to be free and non-commercial to salve our petty, liberal consciences? And only reach a handful of disciples...Or better to be mired in and tainted by commercial realities, but thereby to reach 000,000's?) Honestly I don't seriously entertain anything about TM or the TMO at all anymore. It has been interesting to watch nature withdraw her support. Such is impermanence's inevitable rusting of the can of the canned. As soon as they canned it, it was doomed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:55 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly I don't seriously entertain anything about TM or the TMO at all anymore. Joke of the week ! 98% of your posts are regarding the TMO. Perhaps you missed the point because English is not your native tongue. I don't consider TM or the TM org seriously. But there is some value in seeing how these orgs and teachings arise, exist for a while and then go away. There's also some benefit in seeing how distortion of teachings diminishes their longevity. I guess I just never expected it to happen so quickly!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: [snip] I just don't like to pay $18 a month for HBO and I also don't like to play provider roulette which many people do. HBO can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I get some shows as part of my satellite sub. We just had the final episode of the The Wire last night. How I LOVED that series! eyepatch mode ON I live in a backwater town in Spain and I watch any American or British TV show I want to, from any cable or broadcast channel, and I watch them all without ever having to see a single commercial. And I don't pay a penny for any of them. You guys are still talking about these pay cable and satellite services as if you need them. eyepatch mode OFF Perhaps because we don't want to break the law? I do pay for what I use. It's really that simple. A good point, if you have these shows available TO pay for. I do not. I would have to wait for 1-2 years to be able to see them either on over- priced DVDs (which I have to hack my DVD player to be able to play here) or broadcast on Spanish TV, dubbed. I also live in a country in which downloading these things for private use is NOT against the law. Technically, the only TV shows that you could be prosecuted for downloading in the US are the ones marked PREAIR, released before their broadcast date. No lawsuit has ever been filed for downloading already-broadcast TV shows. Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi- cation? I have. :-) Perhaps we're not that obsessed with seeing these things so soon. Even though they don't have commercials I usually always watch these shows off the DVR than realtime even if I start it 20 minutes after the show has actually started. That's the whole value of having a DVR is watching when you want and being able to just skip over commercials. And more importantly in HD. Do you have a way to watch the shows you download on your big screen? Technically with the current US laws someone would have to file a complaint against a downloader. So if a big studio sees their blockbuster that just opened in theaters being downloaded they may just try to catch someone to make a case of it. However if in the process they see Joe Smo's Funky Features film up their they'll don't care. Joe Smo would have to go after them and Joe Smo probably doesn't care either as he's made his run and a few pirates aren't going to hurt him and actually might result in some extra sales. There are a few instances where even if something is copyrighted you can get away with much like the one instance I mentioned above. There are some small companies that get rights to Z-movies or even foreign films the big boys pass on. These companies don't even waste money on copy protected DVDs which cost a little more to replicate and author. They can even author the DVD (after spending a couple hundred bucks on the transfer if they had to) on a desktop PC with a cheap program. They do their run maybe only 2000 copies and sell the majority of those to places like Netflix, BlockBuster and Hollywood Video as well as some of the big store chains like Fry's that carry about everything. Odds are if several months or a year or two later you can't find that DVD and call that company and they tell you they don't have any copies left they'll probably say if find it on the internet feel free to download it. They're not going to do a limited run for a small market of customers. There are companies like Video Source of Miami that scour the net and markets for films that have not been copyrighted in the US and will send you a one-off DVD copy for a reasonable price. I got The Holy Mountain that way which was all cut up wrong because it was the director who posted the torrent files in a strategy to get Allen Klein who held the rights to release it commercially. A year later I was able to purchase the film on DVD restored beautifully with a commentary by the director (where he admitted to the torrents). The Fall BTW seems like a homage to The Holy Mountain. And now we have Michael Moore and Weinstein's trying a strategy of making the film available for download free while offering the DVD for only $10. Since the direct download failed I wound up doing a torrent on the MPEG-4 version which was muxed wrong for BluRay so am just finishing up the DivX torrent which will play with my Linkplayer upscaled to the HD set. I remember when the Internet was emerging the software company I worked at declared it as a new method of distribution something which was lost on the backwoods mafia types (really,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
Vaj wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:11 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: A good point, if you have these shows available TO pay for. I do not. I would have to wait for 1-2 years to be able to see them either on over- priced DVDs (which I have to hack my DVD player to be able to play here) or broadcast on Spanish TV, dubbed. I also live in a country in which downloading these things for private use is NOT against the law. Technically, the only TV shows that you could be prosecuted for downloading in the US are the ones marked PREAIR, released before their broadcast date. No lawsuit has ever been filed for downloading already-broadcast TV shows. That's interesting and it does make a certain amount of sense for programs broadcast 'over the airwaves'. It however doesn't make sense for cable or satellite. Many people have been prosecuted for stealing cable. I remember when I rented my first apartment years ago, I signed up for cable. Later the cable company came after me for cable theft. So I called them up: here all the other tenants had tapped into my cable and so the cable company came after me. And I was the ONLY one legally paying for it! The networks want the FCC to allow them to copy protect the programs that go out over the air on HD. Guess why they pop up those annoying banners during the shows? To make the copies unpalatable but it makes the show unpalatable. The dummies are shooting themselves in the foot. The FCC is saying NO so far to CP and it would make a lot of recently if not all current sets with both ATSC and QAM tuners obsolete. Their shows are often so bland anyway I turned off The Mentalist after 15 minutes and for some reason the DVR didn't record The Fringe which was about to fall off my list anyway. So far it's been alleged that NBC has thrown in some things in the stream that makes Windows Media Center think the show is copy protected. The EFF is going after them on that. I'm noticing that DVDs are now coming with a symbol that says the disk is copy protected. I makes it easy for me to spot a non copy protected disk and play it with my BluRay player which is a better player than my upscaling network player. My set is 8 years old and thus does not have HDMI inputs. BluRay will upscale a DVD that is not copy protected over component. My networked DVD player upscales over component but is a funky implementation of DVD (the developers were more into network stuff which works good but couldn't even implement a DVD player up to the standards of a cheap one). Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi- cation? I have. :-) Yes, I've seen all of them. I think he means this upcoming season.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
On Sep 24, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The networks want the FCC to allow them to copy protect the programs that go out over the air on HD. Guess why they pop up those annoying banners during the shows? To make the copies unpalatable but it makes the show unpalatable. The dummies are shooting themselves in the foot. The FCC is saying NO so far to CP and it would make a lot of recently if not all current sets with both ATSC and QAM tuners obsolete. Their shows are often so bland anyway I turned off The Mentalist after 15 minutes and for some reason the DVR didn't record The Fringe which was about to fall off my list anyway. So far it's been alleged that NBC has thrown in some things in the stream that makes Windows Media Center think the show is copy protected. The EFF is going after them on that. I'm noticing that DVDs are now coming with a symbol that says the disk is copy protected. I makes it easy for me to spot a non copy protected disk and play it with my BluRay player which is a better player than my upscaling network player. My set is 8 years old and thus does not have HDMI inputs. BluRay will upscale a DVD that is not copy protected over component. My networked DVD player upscales over component but is a funky implementation of DVD (the developers were more into network stuff which works good but couldn't even implement a DVD player up to the standards of a cheap one). It used to be when you rented a movie on TiVo via Directv, you could keep the movie for as long as you wanted. Now I see they automatically delete themselves after 30 days! However I see there's still no problem running them through my DVD recorder and just making a copy. Similarly movies rented on the iTunes store are good for a 30 day period, but once you start playing them they self-delete after 24 hours passes. This seems to be the new trend.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HBO's True Blood
Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, I like being a pirate. Have you seen the first few episodes of Dexter and Californi- cation? I have. :-) According to the Showtime site, the season 3 premiere of Dexter is Sept. 28, yet the BitTorrent trackers already have it available. How is that possible if the episode hasn't even aired yet? Screeners sent to reviewers (whoever they are - wink). A friend that owned a video rental place used to give loan me screeners of films to be released on DVD for my opinion. These are sent out to get the owners to order the title. Screeners often have messages displayed every so once in a while or have the time codes displayed which makes for a bad looking copy. To some extent the networks aren't too concerned about the downrezzed (Flash, WMV) versions and in fact many are making some of those available to view for free plus even putting them on the DVDs they ship as digital versions. They don't like the DVD quality and HD versions.
