Re: Pilling made easy
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ot: Antonio
Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth
Re: ot: Antonio
*Your Antonio will be in our thoughts and prayers... * *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/8/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: ot: Antonio
Thank you, Leslie. On 1/8/07, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Your Antonio will be in our thoughts and prayers... * *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/8/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
RE: Antonio
Sending positive healing vibes for your sweet Antonio, Elizabeth. I hope the vet visit is productive and he feels a whole lot better soon. Please keep us posted when you get time. hugs to you and Antonio, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: ot: Antonio Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Re Feliway, agree, I don't know if mine are doing any good or not--Mickey is still prone to peeing on sofa when he mixes with my tame cats--but I'm continuing to use as manufacturer recommends 90 days to see change of behavior. FYI, however, for those who do use Feliway--my local Petsmart matches the price of any internet price. The internet price was $28 for plug-in (bad enough I know); Petsmart store price $43!!. So I guess I did feel good about saving $15 per plug in. Maybe I'll start using the spray more--I have At-Ease, which is cheaper (thanks for the tip Nina!). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Finding her a home of her own in the future may be a really good thing. Right now, lose on top of lose on top of lose it would be so hard on her. I don't care for the plugins at all. Others like them. I can control what the spray is on and not on. And it has just worked better for me. Someone on the list mentioned a knock off that works as well as Feliway. Some of the super chains like Meijer's has it (at a lot lower cost than vets etc). I think the last I bought was about $15 a bottle. Don't even ask what the first bottle cost. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Hi Marylyn, I just think that a lot of cats would want their own people, rather than being in my noisy, chaotic house where it is hard for a kitty to get some room to herself, and none of them really get enough attention (in my opinion). But that may not be what she wants. It is difficult for me to tell yet. I will get some Feliway spray next payday. What do you think of the plugins? Are they also usefull, or not? On 1/3/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't even think about adopting her out, at least for a long time. Can you imagine all the things that are going thru her mind Try putting feliway spray on your hand when you want to pet her. Honestly, it helped so much with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and with several ferals. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat She's MUCH better as of last night. Ate a whole bowl of food, and let me come very close to touching her, then put her paw out to stop me (no claws this time, though.). I'm not sure of the next step. I can put her on anti anxiety meds, but if she's ok with me I won't know if they are working. I don't think I can take a chance on adopting her out at this point. On 1/2/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very true. Dixie Louise, who is a very laid back cat, snarled at a friend who had on a strange fragrance. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message -
RE: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Hi all, I've stepped up the Feliway plug-ins and wondered what others think of the number--too few? Not enough? I'm using 4 total at present. I have a 2-bedroom place, about 1000 feet total, but mostly open-plan. The 2 bedrooms (each abt 10x10) and the bathroom have doors, obviously, but living/dining area (20 x10) and kitchen (10x10) are open-plan and connected via a narrow 12 feet hallway. I've put two plug-ins total in the living/dining area; plus one in the kitchen; and one in bedroom 1 (which is the ferals' room; door is kept closed). I don't have one in the hallway or bedroom 2 that bedroom door is usually kept half-open on to the living-room/dining area. Maybe I should add one to bedroom 2 and/or hallway? (I'm desperate to integrate Mickey and Momcat now they're negative but Mickey has a habit of peeing when he runs free in the aptment-floor and sofa and my bed are his locations of choice, so far.) My tame cats are not welcoming even though they've all been living in same house albeit not in the same living space for 3 years. My 2 male tame cats growl non-stop when Mickey comes trotting down the hallway, and they don't stop growling until the poor little fellow eventually runs back into his own room. (Momcat hasn't ventured forth at all yet.) I've begun swopping tame/feral catbeds around. Hasn't helped yet. Maybe I need to do more swopping. All opinions/comments/suggs for harmonious living welcome! Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Finding her a home of her own in the future may be a really good thing. Right now, lose on top of lose on top of lose it would be so hard on her. I don't care for the plugins at all. Others like them. I can control what the spray is on and not on. And it has just worked better for me. Someone on the list mentioned a knock off that works as well as Feliway. Some of the super chains like Meijer's has it (at a lot lower cost than vets etc). I think the last I bought was about $15 a bottle. Don't even ask what the first bottle cost. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Hi Marylyn, I just think that a lot of cats would want their own people, rather than being in my noisy, chaotic house where it is hard for a kitty to get some room to herself, and none of them really get enough attention (in my opinion). But that may not be what she wants. It is difficult for me to tell yet. I will get some Feliway spray next payday. What do you think of the plugins? Are they also usefull, or not? On 1/3/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't even think about adopting her out, at least for a long time. Can you imagine all the things that are going thru her mind Try putting feliway spray on your hand when you want to pet her. Honestly, it helped so much with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and with several ferals. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat She's MUCH better as of last night. Ate a whole bowl of food, and let me come very close to touching her, then put her paw out to stop me (no claws this time, though.). I'm not sure of the next step. I can put her on anti anxiety meds, but if she's ok with me I won't know if they are working. I don't think I can take a chance on adopting
Re: Pilling made easy
Below are links to 2 views I found of a clamp. Gary http://www.campbellpet.com/product.aspx?func=viewprodID=114 http://www.campbellpet.com/product.aspx?func=viewprodID=114img=alt - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Pilling made easy Regarding the kitty clamp, can you send it to the group, I'd like to look at it too, thanks! -- Belinda
Re: Smoking cats and Lymphoma and Antonio
Elizabeth - Good for you! I hope that their support doesn't wan, it's a long battle, but you can do it...with help. And I'm keeping Antonio in my thoughts, I hope that he's feeling better soon. Leslie From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Smoking cats and Lymphoma This is a bit long...but I felt it was important and needed to be addressed. If you have time..and especially if you smoke - I hope you will take the time to read this.
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
*I think using enough... or more than enough in the plug-ins is the answer. We had 10 -12 running at any one time in our 3,000 square foot house. So I would say 4 is good for your space... but certainly too little defeats the purpose (so I'd run heavy rather than light). We noticed a HUGE difference in aggression with Feli-way... but had never used it to stop or curb improper elimination problems... I'd be interested to hear if it helps you eventually. We've got a new kitty that has issues too... Once Rudy stopped being a pest, we stopped using the Feliway plug ins... but still have them if they work for couch peeing episodes!! Keep us posted!!* *BTW - We started using it because there was someone on the FIP list a while back who used it in her clinic and noticed an amazing difference. She swore by the stuff... which is why we tried it.* *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've stepped up the Feliway plug-ins and wondered what others think of the number--too few? Not enough? I'm using 4 total at present. I have a 2-bedroom place, about 1000 feet total, but mostly open-plan. The 2 bedrooms (each abt 10x10) and the bathroom have doors, obviously, but living/dining area (20 x10) and kitchen (10x10) are open-plan and connected via a narrow 12 feet hallway. I've put two plug-ins total in the living/dining area; plus one in the kitchen; and one in bedroom 1 (which is the ferals' room; door is kept closed). I don't have one in the hallway or bedroom 2 that bedroom door is usually kept half-open on to the living-room/dining area. Maybe I should add one to bedroom 2 and/or hallway? (I'm desperate to integrate Mickey and Momcat now they're negative but Mickey has a habit of peeing when he runs free in the aptment-floor and sofa and my bed are his locations of choice, so far.) My tame cats are not welcoming even though they've all been living in same house albeit not in the same living space for 3 years. My 2 male tame cats growl non-stop when Mickey comes trotting down the hallway, and they don't stop growling until the poor little fellow eventually runs back into his own room. (Momcat hasn't ventured forth at all yet.) I've begun swopping tame/feral catbeds around. Hasn't helped yet. Maybe I need to do more swopping. All opinions/comments/suggs for harmonious living welcome! Kerry M. -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
RE: Marley,Ambrose and Yule
Sending healing vibes for your sweet little guys, Sherry. You're an angel. Kerry M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:29 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Marley,Ambrose and Yule Hi all just wanted to ask for healing prayers for these wonderful boys.Marley my beautiful fuzzy black boy is under the weather yet again and Ambrose a very handsome Hurricane Katrina survivor is not feeling well.And Yule one of our new x-mas kitties also needs prayers.Thank you all so much and prayers and hugs to all of you. Sherry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
don't forget whenever you're buying anything online to check places like www.bizrate.com or www.shop.com to compare prices--you will be amazed at the range. sometime last year i did a search on the feliway diffusers--it's sure to be in the archives! On 1/8/07, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think using enough... or more than enough in the plug-ins is the answer. We had 10 -12 running at any one time in our 3,000 square foot house. So I would say 4 is good for your space... but certainly too little defeats the purpose (so I'd run heavy rather than light). We noticed a HUGE difference in aggression with Feli-way... but had never used it to stop or curb improper elimination problems... I'd be interested to hear if it helps you eventually. We've got a new kitty that has issues too... Once Rudy stopped being a pest, we stopped using the Feliway plug ins... but still have them if they work for couch peeing episodes!! Keep us posted!! BTW - We started using it because there was someone on the FIP list a while back who used it in her clinic and noticed an amazing difference. She swore by the stuff... which is why we tried it. Leslie =^..^= On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've stepped up the Feliway plug-ins and wondered what others think of the number--too few? Not enough? I'm using 4 total at present. I have a 2-bedroom place, about 1000 feet total, but mostly open-plan. The 2 bedrooms (each abt 10x10) and the bathroom have doors, obviously, but living/dining area (20 x10) and kitchen (10x10) are open-plan and connected via a narrow 12 feet hallway. I've put two plug-ins total in the living/dining area; plus one in the kitchen; and one in bedroom 1 (which is the ferals' room; door is kept closed). I don't have one in the hallway or bedroom 2 that bedroom door is usually kept half-open on to the living-room/dining area. Maybe I should add one to bedroom 2 and/or hallway? (I'm desperate to integrate Mickey and Momcat now they're negative but Mickey has a habit of peeing when he runs free in the aptment-floor and sofa and my bed are his locations of choice, so far.) My tame cats are not welcoming even though they've all been living in same house albeit not in the same living space for 3 years. My 2 male tame cats growl non-stop when Mickey comes trotting down the hallway, and they don't stop growling until the poor little fellow eventually runs back into his own room. (Momcat hasn't ventured forth at all yet.) I've begun swopping tame/feral catbeds around. Hasn't helped yet. Maybe I need to do more swopping. All opinions/comments/suggs for harmonious living welcome! Kerry M. -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: Please add to CLS -- Alberta
Kerry, I'm so sorry. To lose Alberta so soon after Bandy must be unbearable. Please know I'm thinking of you, love and hugs, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Roach Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:42 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Please add to CLS -- Alberta Hi Belinda, I lost my 15 yr old Alberta early Friday morning..She is a negative kitty. Please add her to the CLS. Thanks so much, Kerry, Angel Bandy, Inky and Angel Alberta __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
I just did a search, and the cheapest place was at dog.com. I found that humorous:) On 1/8/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't forget whenever you're buying anything online to check places like www.bizrate.com or www.shop.com to compare prices--you will be amazed at the range. sometime last year i did a search on the feliway diffusers--it's sure to be in the archives! On 1/8/07, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think using enough... or more than enough in the plug-ins is the answer. We had 10 -12 running at any one time in our 3,000 square foot house. So I would say 4 is good for your space... but certainly too little defeats the purpose (so I'd run heavy rather than light). We noticed a HUGE difference in aggression with Feli-way... but had never used it to stop or curb improper elimination problems... I'd be interested to hear if it helps you eventually. We've got a new kitty that has issues too... Once Rudy stopped being a pest, we stopped using the Feliway plug ins... but still have them if they work for couch peeing episodes!! Keep us posted!! BTW - We started using it because there was someone on the FIP list a while back who used it in her clinic and noticed an amazing difference. She swore by the stuff... which is why we tried it. Leslie =^..^= On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've stepped up the Feliway plug-ins and wondered what others think of the number--too few? Not enough? I'm using 4 total at present. I have a 2-bedroom place, about 1000 feet total, but mostly open-plan. The 2 bedrooms (each abt 10x10) and the bathroom have doors, obviously, but living/dining area (20 x10) and kitchen (10x10) are open-plan and connected via a narrow 12 feet hallway. I've put two plug-ins total in the living/dining area; plus one in the kitchen; and one in bedroom 1 (which is the ferals' room; door is kept closed). I don't have one in the hallway or bedroom 2 that bedroom door is usually kept half-open on to the living-room/dining area. Maybe I should add one to bedroom 2 and/or hallway? (I'm desperate to integrate Mickey and Momcat now they're negative but Mickey has a habit of peeing when he runs free in the aptment-floor and sofa and my bed are his locations of choice, so far.) My tame cats are not welcoming even though they've all been living in same house albeit not in the same living space for 3 years. My 2 male tame cats growl non-stop when Mickey comes trotting down the hallway, and they don't stop growling until the poor little fellow eventually runs back into his own room. (Momcat hasn't ventured forth at all yet.) I've begun swopping tame/feral catbeds around. Hasn't helped yet. Maybe I need to do more swopping. All opinions/comments/suggs for harmonious living welcome! Kerry M. -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Antonio
Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: Antonio
Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
RE: Antonio
Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/ The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: O/T
Valium tablets work too. I can't remember the dose though. I would try some Nutrical and some Just Born for supplements. Also try fried chicken mixed with whatever food she needs to eat. As people grow older their sense of smell decreases. It may be the same with the cats. Also try Rescue Remedy and Feliway. There is a Bach remedy for grief. You'll have to check the internet or a good store for the name though. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: O/T I've never tried periactin. I do believe that injected valium (I'm pretty sure it's valium I am thinking of) is a great appetite stimulant, but... it's an injection, so it's something you have to go to the vet for, thus, not good for anything long term. I do think you should try it, you don't really have anything to lose. The next step would be either syringe feeding or tube feeding. Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: Antonio
Check online to see if a different prescription diet brand has a food line for the same problem with better ingredients. Try: http://www.nationalpetpharmacy.com/store/dept_brands.asp?dept%5Fid=1078 National Pet Pharmacy is a member of the igive network, so if you sign up for igive, and shop at this website, your chosen charity gets a donation from your purchase (you'll need to access participating website from their FRONT page to make it work usually though). http://www.igive.com/ (I highly recommend it, many very often used pet supply websites participate! Foster and Smith does too!) Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Can humans take that bach remedy for grief? Does it just sedate you, or actually help you to work through the process somehow? Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
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I've used the remedy stuff before for Mr. Kitten and myself. The place I got it was just a regular nutrition store so I figured it was safe for me too. However, it doesn't taste that great and I didn't really feel much different, but who knows, maybe I didn't take enough, or maybe I was too relaxed in the first place, haha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: O/T Can humans take that bach remedy for grief? Does it just sedate you, or actually help you to work through the process somehow? Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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Yes they can and I have. It has no sedative effect at alljust sort of lets you work thru the grief. I don't know how it works but it does work for me. White Chestnut helps with reoccurring thoughts too. Please try the remedies.you have been thru so much. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:13 PM Subject: Re: O/T Can humans take that bach remedy for grief? Does it just sedate you, or actually help you to work through the process somehow? Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
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MessageUse the spray where he is peeing. I haven't used Feliway for that purpose (only for reducing fear) but it is supposed to work. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: RE: OT - Help, aggressive cat Re Feliway, agree, I don't know if mine are doing any good or not--Mickey is still prone to peeing on sofa when he mixes with my tame cats--but I'm continuing to use as manufacturer recommends 90 days to see change of behavior. FYI, however, for those who do use Feliway--my local Petsmart matches the price of any internet price. The internet price was $28 for plug-in (bad enough I know); Petsmart store price $43!!. So I guess I did feel good about saving $15 per plug in. Maybe I'll start using the spray more--I have At-Ease, which is cheaper (thanks for the tip Nina!). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Finding her a home of her own in the future may be a really good thing. Right now, lose on top of lose on top of lose it would be so hard on her. I don't care for the plugins at all. Others like them. I can control what the spray is on and not on. And it has just worked better for me. Someone on the list mentioned a knock off that works as well as Feliway. Some of the super chains like Meijer's has it (at a lot lower cost than vets etc). I think the last I bought was about $15 a bottle. Don't even ask what the first bottle cost. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Hi Marylyn, I just think that a lot of cats would want their own people, rather than being in my noisy, chaotic house where it is hard for a kitty to get some room to herself, and none of them really get enough attention (in my opinion). But that may not be what she wants. It is difficult for me to tell yet. I will get some Feliway spray next payday. What do you think of the plugins? Are they also usefull, or not? On 1/3/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't even think about adopting her out, at least for a long time. Can you imagine all the things that are going thru her mind Try putting feliway spray on your hand when you want to pet her. Honestly, it helped so much with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and with several ferals. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat She's MUCH better as of last night. Ate a whole bowl of food, and let me come very close to touching her, then put her paw out to stop me (no claws this time, though.). I'm not sure of the next step. I can put her on anti anxiety meds, but if she's ok with me I won't know if they are working. I don't think I can take a chance on adopting her out at this point. On 1/2/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very true. Dixie Louise, who is a very laid back cat, snarled at a friend who had on a strange fragrance. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
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*Here's the site that tells about them: http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/remedies.htm* *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used the remedy stuff before for Mr. Kitten and myself. The place I got it was just a regular nutrition store so I figured it was safe for me too. However, it doesn't taste that great and I didn't really feel much different, but who knows, maybe I didn't take enough, or maybe I was too relaxed in the first place, haha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: O/T Can humans take that bach remedy for grief? Does it just sedate you, or actually help you to work through the process somehow? Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight -- *Check out the new AOL*http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
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aw, poor antonio, and you, too! glad to hear he's not blocked. and it's always such a joy to have different kits on different foods, but it CAN be worked out! GLOW to both of you. MC On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive healing vibes for your sweet Antonio, Elizabeth. I hope the vet visit is productive and he feels a whole lot better soon. Please keep us posted when you get time. hugs to you and Antonio, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: ot: Antonio Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain. I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *elizabeth trent *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Excellent idea - thank you, Phaewryn. On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check online to see if a different prescription diet brand has a food line for the same problem with better ingredients. Try: http://www.nationalpetpharmacy.com/store/dept_brands.asp?dept%5Fid=1078 National Pet Pharmacy is a member of the igive network, so if you sign up for igive, and shop at this website, your chosen charity gets a donation from your purchase (you'll need to access participating website from their FRONT page to make it work usually though). http://www.igive.com/ (I highly recommend it, many very often used pet supply websites participate! Foster and Smith does too!) Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Thanks, MC. I think what I will do is every morning and every evening...I'll set out their eight little bowls for an hour or so and supervise --making sure Antonio only gets his special food. That way, we'll get on a schedule. The advantage of this is that I will be able to see exactly who eats how much and who isn't eating properly...and technically it will be a better way to monitor their intake than just leaving all the dry food down all the time. The vet says that it will take months of this food before Antonio gets back to normal but after that it may be that he can go back to his regular food. The vet tech that I do respect though told me separately that she guarentees if I go back to the other food, he'll get a stone. I just need to educate myself and tune in to these babies as much as I can and get them well. I have a friend who has been a Reiki master since this 60s...I may take Antonio to see her. Couldn't hurt. Whatever it takes to make my babies as healthy as they can be and to feel better. elizabeth On 1/8/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aw, poor antonio, and you, too! glad to hear he's not blocked. and it's always such a joy to have different kits on different foods, but it CAN be worked out! GLOW to both of you. MC On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive healing vibes for your sweet Antonio, Elizabeth. I hope the vet visit is productive and he feels a whole lot better soon. Please keep us posted when you get time. hugs to you and Antonio, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: ot: Antonio Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with himhe slept by my pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood in his urine and possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need to be expressed so the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them promise me at the vet's they would give him some demerol. He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light formula...that's very good news. I really hated leaving him at the vet's this morning but they told me I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they may have to extract some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. Please, if you would...send prayers...good thoughts...or whatever is your style for the dear boy. We very much appreciate it. Thank you, elizabeth IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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i think that one of the reasons that i love my housecall vet is that i don't have to deal with incompetent office staff members i learned years ago, with human docs, that very often the doc has no clue what goes on up front if they aren't told, so now i do i have raised big stinks, and gotten folks quite hissed at me--at both vets and human docs, but WE are the customers, after all. so there! (and i haven't even quit smoking yet!) On 1/8/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain. I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers
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You're spoiled ;-) I'm very glad you have one who comes by...it just seems impossible to properly communicate in the office environment...even when I go with a typed list of questions. I can see right now -- next time I need to raise a big stink -- you're going with me LOL You and a bunch of others from this list :0) elizabeth On 1/8/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think that one of the reasons that i love my housecall vet is that i don't have to deal with incompetent office staff members i learned years ago, with human docs, that very often the doc has no clue what goes on up front if they aren't told, so now i do i have raised big stinks, and gotten folks quite hissed at me--at both vets and human docs, but WE are the customers, after all. so there! (and i haven't even quit smoking yet!) On 1/8/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Kerry. ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. If I had not asked a stream of questions I would have left there not knowing a d*mn thing about his condition or how serious it is. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] technician brought poor 22lb Antonio out ON HIS BACK (he NEVER likes to be carried that way)...and he was in SO much pain. He just peed everywhere, bless his little heart. He was screaming. This they did before I even had time to check out or talk to the vet or do anything. Once they finally put him down and let me hold him - he was a perfect angel and didn't even pee on my silk shirt. He loves his mommy. Then they forgot to give me the medicine he needs so I had to go back and get it. They wouldn't have given me the special food if I had not said -- doesn't he need some special prescription food too? The whole time they are just as slaphappy as they can be yapping up a storm about how somebody did their hair or how cute some guy is or who did their nails. Little do they know just how close they were to a big can opening. I did my best to be gracious - but I am telling you - I STILL feel like going back down there! That's my BABY! It's serious because there are so many crystals in his urine that he could have a complete blockage at any timeso I have to watch him carefully and make sure he only eats HIS food and nobody else eats his food. Maybe it's just the 8 days without nicotine but I honestly wanted to shake all of them and just pop their heads together. Plus, it didn't help that my regular vet wasn't there. The one who was there is very competent...but refused to give Antonio anything for pain saying that the anti-inflammatory was enough for his pain. I hope he gets this same condition and only gets a steriod shot. *** END RANT ALERT *** Sorry -- it's going to take a few minutes before I can be nice again. I promise, I'll try very hard. elizabeth On 1/8/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive vibes for your little Antonio--what a great and noble name!-- to start to feel better now he's had the steroid and antibiotics. hugs Kerryx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Antonio Thank you, Phaewryn. I just talked to the vet. Antonio has a lot of struvite crystals in his urine...and a lot of red and white blood cells as well. No blockage - thank goodness -- but I need to be on the lookout for that. They gave him a steroid for the inflammation and a shot of antibiotics -- I think we'll be doing antibiotics for at least 14 days. Wants me to change his diet to prescription c/dbut it bothers me that the 3rd ingredient in this catfood is corn gluten meal. Anyway - it's going to take some logistical ingenuity to figure out how to feed one cat one thing -- and seven others something else. We had recently switched to the chicken soup light formula...but the vet really does not think that is what caused it. I'm getting ready to go get the boy - just can't focus here at work without him. Dr. Jones saw him today and said that Antonio is SUCH a good kitty. and he is. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending healing vibes and positive energy for Antonio! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer
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thanks guys! working on that new year resolution... Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
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get a different vet, there is NO reason for your cat to be suffering in pain! Give me your address and I will ship you cat pain meds tomorrow! Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: Antonio
***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. My partner is an (uncertified) veterinary technician for a small animal hospital. We live in big-city environs (Chicago, US) and she makes $10 US/per hour. This is not a living wage in our area. The receptionists make anywhere from $8 to $10 /hr. Consequently, to work in this field, you must: 1) have another adult willing to support you 2) be young enough your parents are still supporting you Most receptionists fall under #2, meaning they are teenagers. Who talk about hair and boys and their dates. If the clinic could pay more, they could hire a better quality person (i.e. adult; some of these children may be just fine once they grow up), at least in theory. The one little place I am familiar with, simply can't. The doctors make enough to support their families, but I've been in their homes and they are not mansions -- just simple middle class places. The owner is not making a fortune, he's making a living. Paying his employees better would impact his ability to support his family. I am not defending those employees, nor the vets who employ them. The very same sort of people have hissed me off royally too. If you are going to hire people for cheap, expect to spend that much in time, trying to keep them in line and behaving appropriately. Most vets don't bother or don't know how. Complain. It is the only thing that can change things for the better. Don't do it when you're totally hissed off and in a nicotine fit (hang in there; what you are doing is admirable and very very difficult). It might be best to write a very clear letter that the owner (find out which vet(s) own the clinic and address it to them) can read in the privacy of their office. Don't rant, don't rave. Be very clear that you did not receive professional attention from the office staff, and you expect appropriate behavior or you will be taking your eight babies someplace more professional. Especially at small clinics, people with large numbers of animals who care deeply and spend money can have a very real influence on things. (And I'm glad Antonio is home with a remedy; my own adventures at the vets in another message.) Lynette
Bandit
Bandit is 3.5 years, 15 pounds, and neg/neg. He's healthy, but overweight. Saturday night we came home, dished out the nightly feeding to eight cats, and when we opened the door to where he and his brother eat, found him lying on the bathmat. He wouldn't get up, and when stood up (very gently, my hands by him so he woudln't fall), wouldn't walk. Well, he tried a little but seemed to be in such pain that we quickly put him on the warm waterbed, which the cats all find a comfort zone. When I felt him, it felt like heat was radiating from his left rear knee, and possibly from his front left paw. He was extremely lethargic. However he did respond with affection to the attention he was getting. He did *not* feel hot. We thought perhaps he'd fallen off the cat tree in his sleep (top perch is about 8 feet high, he has fallen off of much shorter places in his sleep). So (it being midnight), we locked him in our bedroom with us and all the amenities. He slept snuggled up to me all night, which he never gets to do these days (we have to lock them out with the kittens here or there's no sleep to be had). The next day he seemed much less lethargic, and more like he'd hurt his leg. He could walk on it some, but clearly experienced discomfort. We opted to wait until Monday, when he could go see his regular vet, where my partner works (yes, there are financial reasons here). So we went today, and found out his temp was 103.8. The vet did a very careful exam and could find NOTHING. No pain on leg extensions; he could hyper-extend the knee a little but nothing too crazy for a cat. No bites. No nothing. The fever indicates infection, so they prescribed Clavamox and to observe him closely. He's walking better but is still not himself (nothing like following a cat around making sure he doesn't jump). He'll continue to receive the isolation/snuggle treatment and I'm again grateful I can work from home so I can keep an eye on him. What in the world? Lynette =^..^= The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
Re: Marley
Good news! I hope Marley continues to improve. t Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much Nina and all who had sweet Marley,he is back at the sanctuary and feeling much like himself.He looks up with me with those beautiful yellow eyes and just melts my heart.He loves to be held just like a baby.I am going to send Dr. Jen a thank you for making him feel better.I hope everyone hasa wonderful new year,be safe and take care. Sherry Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aww Sherry, I'm so sorry. Marley is in my thoughts and prayers for a quick turn around. Please don't beat yourself up for not being more on top of his aliments. Sometimes it's just impossible to know an off day from the onset of something serious, even when they live in the same house as we do. You can make yourself crazy with this kind of what if. Holding you both in my heart, Nina Sherry DeHaan wrote: Hi all,I know I haven't posted in a while,which for me would be a good thing cause it is usually bad news.Well I just need to ask all of you to send out prayers for beautiful sweet (crying while writing this)marley.He is having a bad time right now and is getting fluids and is at Dr. Jens house.Well I feel really bad cause I had noticed on Monday that he was not quite himself and didn't let Jen know.Sometimes these guys have off days and are fine the next.Well last night when I got there he was the first one that I looked for to check on him and he just was not right.We had to cut packed poo off his butt and he was just a mess.I would feel just aweful if we lost him because I didn't notify her sooner.If I was there everyday I definitly would have been on top of it.I guess I should have called to check on him.So please add him to your prayers he is one of my most fav boys at Sids.He has long black silky hair and is the most gentle loving babies ever.Thank you all so much.Sorry for rambling Sherry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Antonio
This is good advice, Lynette, and I thank you. The thing is -- I've been going to this vet for 13 years as of next month -- I've never had this sort of problem before. Perhaps this is just the first time someone there opened up a can of stupid and passed it around. I will write a thoughtful letter. I spend enough money there that they joke about adding a new wing in my name. The thing is though -- people and their pets should get professional treatment no matter how much or how little they spend. I'll let the steam blow off before I write. elizabeth On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. My partner is an (uncertified) veterinary technician for a small animal hospital. We live in big-city environs (Chicago, US) and she makes $10 US/per hour. This is not a living wage in our area. The receptionists make anywhere from $8 to $10 /hr. Consequently, to work in this field, you must: 1) have another adult willing to support you 2) be young enough your parents are still supporting you Most receptionists fall under #2, meaning they are teenagers. Who talk about hair and boys and their dates. If the clinic could pay more, they could hire a better quality person (i.e. adult; some of these children may be just fine once they grow up), at least in theory. The one little place I am familiar with, simply can't. The doctors make enough to support their families, but I've been in their homes and they are not mansions -- just simple middle class places. The owner is not making a fortune, he's making a living. Paying his employees better would impact his ability to support his family. I am not defending those employees, nor the vets who employ them. The very same sort of people have hissed me off royally too. If you are going to hire people for cheap, expect to spend that much in time, trying to keep them in line and behaving appropriately. Most vets don't bother or don't know how. Complain. It is the only thing that can change things for the better. Don't do it when you're totally hissed off and in a nicotine fit (hang in there; what you are doing is admirable and very very difficult). It might be best to write a very clear letter that the owner (find out which vet(s) own the clinic and address it to them) can read in the privacy of their office. Don't rant, don't rave. Be very clear that you did not receive professional attention from the office staff, and you expect appropriate behavior or you will be taking your eight babies someplace more professional. Especially at small clinics, people with large numbers of animals who care deeply and spend money can have a very real influence on things. (And I'm glad Antonio is home with a remedy; my own adventures at the vets in another message.) Lynette
Re: Bandit
Hard to say Lynette. I once had a cat that broke his back jumping out of a laundry basket on a coffee table (not even 2 feet off the ground). People think cats are these amazing athletic creatures, and sometimes they can seem indestructible, but the truth is, they are fragile little beings and can easily get hurt around the house. It's entirely possible he did hurt his leg either falling or jumping off the tall cat tree. I have an eight foot tree too, and my cats jump down onto my dinner table from it... and it sounds like someone dropped a 10 pound sack of potatoes, FAR from graceful. So far, no-one has been hurt, but I ALWAYS run in and check who-ever it was to be sure. I'd offer him two options to lay one, an ice pack under a big fluffy towel, and a heating pad under a big fluffy towel, and let him choose what feels better for him. I do this with all my injured, sick, or recovering from surgery cats, and they always choose one of the two. Did your vet do a neurological exam in addition to looking for sprains and injuries? Favoring a leg but NOT expressing pain during manipulations points towards something neurological. Which leg is he favoring? A rear leg? Neurological issues often start in the rear and progress forward as they worsen. Did your vet do a toe pinch test on all legs to test for a pain reflex? What about pin prinks up the inside of the thighs? Is he dragging his tail, or is it functioning normally? You can do most of these tests at home, especially since your partner is a vet tech, she should know the basic neurological tests. Is he pooping ok? Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
Re: Antonio
At 07:00 PM 1/8/2007, you wrote: I beg to differ. although I do agree that as of late I see a big attitude shift but I do not think it is related to wages. I think we have come not to expect dignified and competent service, .. Happened to me on the phone today dealing with a rebate, I took the extra 15 minutes ,,called back and spoke with the supervisor. I also wrote the postmaster regarding one lousy postal worker. i am in a service oriented job and each customer deserves to be treated properly. It doesn't matter what their salary is, I have been treated poorly by high paid individuals also. Vet techs are underpaid,,,so are many vets. We as consumers are the first ones to complain about walking out of the office with a 2500.00 vet bill for proper diagnostic and medical care, Vets go through as much school as an MD but are paid only a minute fraction of their worthInsurance covers our costs most of the time but we pay out of pocket for our pets. An XRAY machine costs the same whether it is used on your brother or your cat, Lab charges are the same,,, Do we want to pay 5 times the rate and hope the techs get a raise,,,not an easy situation,,, Courtesy is courtesy and should not have a dollar sign attached. kelly Lane ***RANT ALERT (from a crazy nicotine addict in withdrawel)*** I've always been very happy with my vet's officebut I came very close to opening up a can of [EMAIL PROTECTED] a bit ago. Those slap-happy receptionist people are USELESS. My partner is an (uncertified) veterinary technician for a small animal hospital. We live in big-city environs (Chicago, US) and she makes $10 US/per hour. This is not a living wage in our area. The receptionists make anywhere from $8 to $10 /hr. Consequently, to work in this field, you must: 1) have another adult willing to support you 2) be young enough your parents are still supporting you Most receptionists fall under #2, meaning they are teenagers. Who talk about hair and boys and their dates. If the clinic could pay more, they could hire a better quality person (i.e. adult; some of these children may be just fine once they grow up), at least in theory. The one little place I am familiar with, simply can't. The doctors make enough to support their families, but I've been in their homes and they are not mansions -- just simple middle class places. The owner is not making a fortune, he's making a living. Paying his employees better would impact his ability to support his family. I am not defending those employees, nor the vets who employ them. The very same sort of people have hissed me off royally too. If you are going to hire people for cheap, expect to spend that much in time, trying to keep them in line and behaving appropriately. Most vets don't bother or don't know how. Complain. It is the only thing that can change things for the better. Don't do it when you're totally hissed off and in a nicotine fit (hang in there; what you are doing is admirable and very very difficult). It might be best to write a very clear letter that the owner (find out which vet(s) own the clinic and address it to them) can read in the privacy of their office. Don't rant, don't rave. Be very clear that you did not receive professional attention from the office staff, and you expect appropriate behavior or you will be taking your eight babies someplace more professional. Especially at small clinics, people with large numbers of animals who care deeply and spend money can have a very real influence on things. (And I'm glad Antonio is home with a remedy; my own adventures at the vets in another message.) Lynette -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007
