OT - Help cat crying at night
Unfortunately your crowded little house probably made him feel more secure. He will have been aware of the other cats and could even be crying to try and communicate with the other cats and be distressed because they are not there. He is obviously distressed and I feel like everyone else needs time to adapt - any animal needs time to settle in a new home and it's only fair we let them do that. I think Feliway and rescue remedy are a good place to start. The space of his new home and like of crowdedness is possibly freaking him out. Poor little guy - hope he settles down xxx and although having disturbed sleep isn't good I think any adopter should be prepared to have disturbed sleep whilst the new furbaby settles - you wouldn't get people taking adopted human babies back to where they got them from because they cry in the night - they would be up comforting them - animals deserve the same compasion in my eyes. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Angel Bramble
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 28
I have to agree with the people who say that feeding them whatever you can is better than them starving! Look around the world, there are millions of humans starving, eating out of dumpsters right here in America, kids living on nothing but off brand hot dogs and macaroni and cheese, do you think they'd be better off dead and spared their 'suffering' because they don't have the very best life? I don't believe in feeding 'less cats' if you can't afford the best, what's going to happen to the ones you've chosen not to feed? Put down? Is that 'sparing them pain?' If an animal is terminally ill you are sparing them pain, but if they're a healthy feral you're just killing them. Some people really need to realize that, as much as we pamper our pets, cats are animals, and animals don't have the same standards of a good life as you may. They don't necessarily care about a warm heated house and a soft pillow and expensive food, all they want to do is survive. It's not out of the question that many outdoor or feral cats like their life, enjoy being wild and free and don't want to be taken inside, and certainly don't want to DIE because some humans think they're 'suffering' because they aren't living their standard of a good life. If you're going to put them out of their misery for that reason, might as well put down about 75% of all humans in the world who don't have a perfect life either. Unless they're sick or badly injured, I believe that any time an animal has to live, even in a less than perfect situation with owners who don't have enough money, or even wild, is better than dying, and they'd think so too. I applaud everyone like that 86 year old grandma who do what they can for as many cats as they can so they can have a chance. To live is to hope, and just maybe some of those cats might someday wind up at the door of somebody who takes him in and keeps him furrever. - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: OT - Help cat crying at night
You know I agree with you and I wish all adopters would go to the sometimes great lengths that some of us do for our furbabies. The problem is that whether or not we think it has not been long enough, SHE feels it has been long enough. I think if he weren't so affectionate and sweet during the daytime she may have already returned him. In this case it may be better for him to come back to me, so that perhaps one day in months or years he can be adopted out with another cat, but I'm not sure. My house has sufficient cats in it that it is not the ideal environment for most cats. I would love to keep them all, but I can't do that and do rescue. I'm just really, really frustrated right now. On 3/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately your crowded little house probably made him feel more secure. He will have been aware of the other cats and could even be crying to try and communicate with the other cats and be distressed because they are not there. He is obviously distressed and I feel like everyone else needs time to adapt - any animal needs time to settle in a new home and it's only fair we let them do that. I think Feliway and rescue remedy are a good place to start. The space of his new home and like of crowdedness is possibly freaking him out. Poor little guy - hope he settles down xxx and although having disturbed sleep isn't good I think any adopter should be prepared to have disturbed sleep whilst the new furbaby settles - you wouldn't get people taking adopted human babies back to where they got them from because they cry in the night - they would be up comforting them - animals deserve the same compasion in my eyes. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Angel Bramble -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
RE: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Dear Marissa I'm so happy for you and Slinky that you have him at home now. Have a wonderful day with Slinky. Enjoy every moment you have with him! Sending zillions of prayes and healing vibes, hugs, Kerry PS: I wrote you last night but my server wdn't release it from the outbox. You'll prob get it today if I can get their tech support to release remotely for me. There will be a lot in the archives on IR--Michelle (Lerner) shared a ton of information with us on IR. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ _ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers' particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this
Re: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Hello Marissa and Slinky. I just wanted you to know that, like everyone else on the list, I'm praying for Slinky and you. It is no small thing that your family and friends have rallied around you in your time of need. Everything seems to have fallen into place to give Slinky the best opportunity to recover and I know you recognize how truly blessed you are and how special your little angel is in your life. C'mon Slinky, keep on fighting! Please keep us posted when you can, Nina Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mail#news
Re: Whitey is close to the BRIDGE
Kelly, You just posted about losing a fur kid on Sat. I take it it was Whitey? I'm so sorry for your loss. When you are able, would you like to tell us a little more of Whitey's story? You are such a good human to open your heart and home to so many in need Kelly. Each and every one is special and their loss hurts so much. I'm sending you strength and love to carry on and great thanks for all you do. It's so very kind of you to continue to post and help others when your heart is hurting so. Go and spend some time out in that wonderful habitat of yours. Look around you and know how special YOU are. How is the rescue dog doing today? Much love, Nina Kelly L wrote: To my Friends, My sweet Little White Deaf kitty is at the emergency vets under Oxygen tonight. It is a long story but probably underlying heart disease..and he is not responding. The ventilator is an option, but the prognosis of ever getting him off it is is so slim and with so many underlying problems I would be doing it for me and not him, He has been though so very much this year,...Please wish me the strength to go down there and hold him in my arms and a gently passage,,,Then to the other vet asFRESNO my rescued dog's would has opened up and the pin should be pulled, I hate these times. Kelly
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
He's suffering from separation anxiety. Even tho his person is there...when she sleeps...she leaves him. Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it). Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)? Spray it once a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being. She could also try a Catnip video...put in the tv and push play...kitty might be destracted. Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new surroundings. Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know. I Have called her this morning and left a message. On 3/18/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
She is going to buy Feliway. I also found a local source of Rescue Remedy. She is not willing to medicate him. I guess I can understand that (well, not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it isn't a physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in medicating cats to solve emotional problems. On 3/19/07, tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's suffering from separation anxiety. Even tho his person is there...when she sleeps...she leaves him. Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it). Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)? Spray it once a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being. She could also try a Catnip video...put in the tv and push play...kitty might be destracted. Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new surroundings. *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I don't know. I Have called her this morning and left a message. On 3/18/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
She has not called me back. I have no idea what that means. Maybe he is fine now. Maybe it was so bad she had to call in sick to work and she'll be on my doorstep when I get home. On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is going to buy Feliway. I also found a local source of Rescue Remedy. She is not willing to medicate him. I guess I can understand that (well, not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it isn't a physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in medicating cats to solve emotional problems. On 3/19/07, tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's suffering from separation anxiety. Even tho his person is there...when she sleeps...she leaves him. Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it). Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)? Spray it once a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being. She could also try a Catnip video...put in the tv and push play...kitty might be destracted. Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new surroundings. *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I don't know. I Have called her this morning and left a message. On 3/18/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I finally called her back again. She says he did better last night. She is going to give him until the end of the week and see how he does. On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She has not called me back. I have no idea what that means. Maybe he is fine now. Maybe it was so bad she had to call in sick to work and she'll be on my doorstep when I get home. On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is going to buy Feliway. I also found a local source of Rescue Remedy. She is not willing to medicate him. I guess I can understand that (well, not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it isn't a physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in medicating cats to solve emotional problems. On 3/19/07, tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's suffering from separation anxiety. Even tho his person is there...when she sleeps...she leaves him. Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it). Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)? Spray it once a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being. She could also try a Catnip video...put in the tv and push play...kitty might be destracted. Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new surroundings. *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I don't know. I Have called her this morning and left a message. On 3/18/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL
RE: Latest Slinky Update
Melissa, I just sent you an email offlist on IR -- let me know if it doesn't reach you. hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Latest Slinky Update Hi again everyone. Thanks so much for your support and ideas. After Slinky's fever spiked to 104 last night, we gave him some sub-q fluids and it went down to 103. :-| Not great, but better. He did eat during the night and seemed to do okay...but his fever is back up to 104 now. We tried to give him more fluids, but he won't keep the needle in. He got about 250 cc's in him but that's it. We're gonna try more later with a smaller needle, but...ugh. I HATE having to poke him and take his temp and stuff all the time...he's getting really sick of it! Poor baby. He feels very hot and is pretty lethargic. He's still eating though. The doctor called to check in a bit ago (!!!)...i don't know if that's normal but it certainly hasn't been normal for me!!! She said she's glad to hear he's eating. She thinks I'm doing all I can and that eating and being alert might be a good day for him. :( Seems possible that the fever is his body adjusting to the transfusion, but with the FeLV it's hard to know. I asked her about IR and Interferon and she said she's never used it but saw it used with dogs in vet school. She said she'd ask around today and see if anyone had had positive results using it with cats with FeLV. I saw someone's post about getting it online w/o a scrip (can't remember who posted it...sorry). It's not cheap! But I may be able to swing a little. It's $35 for 5mL, $150 for 50mL. But I have NO idea what the dose would even be. Anyone know? I have a vet tech here all week so we could give it here for now...but what would the dose be?? Any ideas or suggestions would be great. Thanks!!! MJ _ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar /features/mail/ alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49937/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar /features/mail/ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers' particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Immuno Regulin - DOSAGE???
Hi all. I said this in my last update but thought changing the subject would help. Slink's fever still isn't quite down. I'm considerinng trying IR (if I can afford it) and could order it without a scrip. I have a vet tech here this week so we could even administer it here. ButI have NO clue what the dosage would be!?!?! I could afford to order a 5mL bottle if that will last me a bit...but I can't get the 50mL right now. Anyone have any ideas on dosages? His doctor called a bit ago and said she'd ask around if anyone had experience using IR with FeLV cats. I may call her back but thought I'd see if you all can tell me about dosages. Thanks! MJ - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as she can sleep at least a little. And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep. I stayed with some friends of mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn. I think that is when I decided I didn't want children. Oh my LORD On 3/19/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not an abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
if she has to, for her own health and safety, she can always get earplugs and shut him out of her room til he gets the message. not the best option, perhaps, but sleep-deprivation isn't a good way to begin a relationship, either. On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as she can sleep at least a little. And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep. I stayed with some friends of mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn. I think that is when I decided I didn't want children. Oh my LORD On 3/19/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not an abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Immuno Regulin - DOSAGE???
At 10:38 AM 3/19/2007, you wrote: I used .753/4 cc IV per dose, The recommendation was for1/2 to 1 cc so I setteled on the middle of that,..,,Make sure the vet gives it IV not sub q or IM,, I gave it twice a week but this was on a healthy FELV cat, Ask those who have used it on ill kitties, Kelly Hi all. I said this in my last update but thought changing the subject would help. Slink's fever still isn't quite down. I'm considerinng trying IR (if I can afford it) and could order it without a scrip. I have a vet tech here this week so we could even administer it here. ButI have NO clue what the dosage would be!?!?! I could afford to order a 5mL bottle if that will last me a bit...but I can't get the 50mL right now. Anyone have any ideas on dosages? His doctor called a bit ago and said she'd ask around if anyone had experience using IR with FeLV cats. I may call her back but thought I'd see if you all can tell me about dosages. Thanks! MJ Now that's room service! http://travel.yahoo.com/hotelsearchpage;_ylc=X3oDMTFtaTIzNXVjBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS0wNw--Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/726 - Release Date: 3/18/2007
RE: Latest Slinky Update
I got it. Thanks Kerry! M MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Melissa, I just sent you an email offlist on IR -- let me know if it doesn't reach you. hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Latest Slinky Update Hi again everyone. Thanks so much for your support and ideas. After Slinky's fever spiked to 104 last night, we gave him some sub-q fluids and it went down to 103. :-| Not great, but better. He did eat during the night and seemed to do okay...but his fever is back up to 104 now. We tried to give him more fluids, but he won't keep the needle in. He got about 250 cc's in him but that's it. We're gonna try more later with a smaller needle, but...ugh. I HATE having to poke him and take his temp and stuff all the time...he's getting really sick of it! Poor baby. He feels very hot and is pretty lethargic. He's still eating though. The doctor called to check in a bit ago (!!!)...i don't know if that's normal but it certainly hasn't been normal for me!!! She said she's glad to hear he's eating. She thinks I'm doing all I can and that eating and being alert might be a good day for him. :( Seems possible that the fever is his body adjusting to the transfusion, but with the FeLV it's hard to know. I asked her about IR and Interferon and she said she's never used it but saw it used with dogs in vet school. She said she'd ask around today and see if anyone had had positive results using it with cats with FeLV. I saw someone's post about getting it online w/o a scrip (can't remember who posted it...sorry). It's not cheap! But I may be able to swing a little. It's $35 for 5mL, $150 for 50mL. But I have NO idea what the dose would even be. Anyone know? I have a vet tech here all week so we could give it here for now...but what would the dose be?? Any ideas or suggestions would be great. Thanks!!! MJ - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers' particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I would still want her to leave a light on somewhere near her bedroom. Bathroom maybe, or even another bedroom. Pam TenHouseCats wrote: if she has to, for her own health and safety, she can always get earplugs and shut him out of her room til he gets the message. not the best option, perhaps, but sleep-deprivation isn't a good way to begin a relationship, either. On 3/19/07, *Kelley Saveika* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as she can sleep at least a little. And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep. I stayed with some friends of mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn. I think that is when I decided I didn't want children. Oh my LORD On 3/19/07, *TenHouseCats* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not an abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Dilemma - Consistent slight positive felv test results
I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Junior update-not Lymphoma
Hi Everyone I called the vet today regarding the needle aspiration of the lymph nodes. She is confident that it is not Lymphoma. He has fatty tissue and nutrophils indicating inflammation from infection. The Baytril will help with the infection. She gave him a months supply. I reordered his Transfer Factor Plus. I think that has helped keep him stable. I must say Junior is quite the fighter. His lymph node behind his ear has been swollen for a while. The swelling would usually go down at night. He seems to has less sight than before. Most of the swelling is on the side of the good eye. I am hoping his lack of sight is temporary. The Matacam, she would only give twice a week and would be given to further reduce inflammation and pain. She wants to give the Baytril time to work before possibly using the Metacam. I feel better that Junior has seen Dr Staunton. Thanks for all your prayers and help. The Fight goes on…. Sally Davis
Best way to give Vitamin C?
The vet gave me some liquid Vitamin C to give Tomi, but it's horrible tasting stuff (I tried it). Very acidic/sour and chemical tasting. He absolutely hates it, and even gags afterwards, though he hasn't actually vomited anything up yet. I tried buying Vitamin C powder to see if he would eat it in baby food, but he knows its there and won't touch the food (he will eat the food with Lysine in it). Is there anything I could mix the powder with to reduce the acidic/sour taste that I could still administer with a syringe? Thanks, Cassandra
Re: Junior update-not Lymphoma
VERY encouraging -- thanks for the update! Prayers still going up for you and Junior. elizabeth On 3/19/07, Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone I called the vet today regarding the needle aspiration of the lymph nodes. She is confident that it is not Lymphoma. He has fatty tissue and nutrophils indicating inflammation from infection. The Baytril will help with the infection. She gave him a months supply. I reordered his Transfer Factor Plus. I think that has helped keep him stable. I must say Junior is quite the fighter. His lymph node behind his ear has been swollen for a while. The swelling would usually go down at night. He seems to has less sight than before. Most of the swelling is on the side of the good eye. I am hoping his lack of sight is temporary. The Matacam, she would only give twice a week and would be given to further reduce inflammation and pain. She wants to give the Baytril time to work before possibly using the Metacam. I feel better that Junior has seen Dr Staunton. Thanks for all your prayers and help. The Fight goes on…. Sally Davis
Re: Junior update-not Lymphoma
Hi Elizabeth, Yes I am relieved, although he is fighting an infection. So we do need your prayers. He seems to be feeling better after 4 days of baytril. Thanks, Sally and Junior On 3/19/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VERY encouraging -- thanks for the update! Prayers still going up for you and Junior. elizabeth
cat food recall
These are the wet cuts in gravy kind. They should all be off the shelves by now but check your cupboards. I can't believe those varied brands are made by the same company. My cats don't eat any of these but check for yours. Americas Choice, Preferred Pets 2. Authority 3. Best Choice 4. Companion 5. Compliments 6. Demoulas Market Basket 7. Eukanuba 8. Fine Feline Cat 9. Food Lion 10. Foodtown 11. Giant Companion 12. Hannaford 13. Hill Country Fare 14. Hy-Vee 15. Iams 16. Laura Lynn 17. Li'l Red 18. Loving Meals 19. Meijer's Main Choice 20. Nutriplan 21. Nutro Max Gourmet Classics 22. Nutro Natural Choice 23. Paws 24. Pet Pride 25. Presidents Choice 26. Price Chopper 27. Priority 28. Save-A-Lot 29. Schnucks 30. Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans 31. Sophistacat 32. Special Kitty Canada 33. Special Kitty US 34. Springfield Prize 35. Sprout 36. Total Pet 37. Wegmans 38. Western Family 39. White Rose 40. Winn Dixie - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
Re: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
Hi Marissa, I loved reading your post. I'm so glad that Slinky is home again. Did you ask the doctor about Epogen and when will they start it? :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all!!! Just wanted to give you all the latest update. I brought Slinky home this afternoon The doctor called me this morning and said he was doing great and could go home. I stopped and saw him on my way to church and he was wanting to jump out of his cage and go home. :) I went back this afternoon and they said his temp is normal (101 - was 102 when I went in the morning), his BP, respirations, heart rate, etc. were all normal. He even ate quite a bit of his dry food after I left in the morning. He was alert and looking around. His gums are still pale but they're definitely pinker! When we got home I took him out of his carrier...and watched my baby boy run across the living room floor, jump up on the couch, and perch on the window sill!!! :) Considering that I wasn't sure I'd even get to bring him home, I just about burst into tears! The bill was actually pretty close to the estimate and they're going to have me continue his clavamox and baytril and give him sub-q fluids if I need them. My friend who's a vet tech will be here tonight to help me take care of him and keep an eye on him for the week. We have a follow-up appointment Thursday night to run another CBC and see where we stand. Throughout all of it, the hospital was absolutely amazing! I called 2-3 times last night for updates and they were great about getting them to me. They actually THANKED me for the opportunity to work with him and told me what a wonderful cat he is. :) Now for the not-so-happy news. He was really alert and energetic for a while...but I noticed he was starting to feel warm again. I took his temp and it got to 104 and then he moved and it came out and he wouldn't let me get it in again. :( I called the hospital to make sure I was supposed to give him his abx tonight (wanted to make sure I wasn't overdosing him after he'd been on IV abx). The doctor said to give him the abx and go ahead with sub-q fluids...but also said that she's concerned about his ability to regenerate and that she thinks I've done all I can for him...and it may be that if he's eating and alert that's a good day for him. We gave him the clavamox, baytril, some C and L-Lysine, and Hi-Vite and then started the sub-q's. Took the temp after the fluids were done and it was 104.4. I'm hoping it will go down by the time the fluid absorbs. He's seeming a bit more lethargic and sleepy now. I hate to keep poking and prodding him...it has to be frustrating for him! I'm feeling a bit discouraged...everything seemed to be going so well when I picked him up! But my friend (the vet tech) is saying that his body needs time to adjust to the new blood. I'm hoping that's what's happening...and not that his body is killing the new blood cells. Please keep up the prayers and good thoughts! I know we've done everything we can...but I really want this to work! I got my baby back for a few hours...and I want more! Thanks again for all your support and love. I'll send more info when I have it. MJ - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
Re: Dilemma - Consistent slight positive felv test results
Hi, Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix VACCINATED negatives with your positive. There is at least one list member who had 3 unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly mixing with an felv+... Regards, Beth On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donna, A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives, mainly because we did not know we had a positive initially. But once most of us found out, we felt separating the kitties would be more stressful than risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't think many here, if any, have had that happen. I've been a member here for a year and a half. Thus, the general consensus here is that as adult cats, it is difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of contracting. I am not sure what to make of the conflicting test results. We do know that there are a lot of false positives and false negatives, which doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of the PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in your home and how old are they? Do you think they would get along with Elise? :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
Re: Latest Slinky Update
Marissa, I can't remember what dose I gave Cricket of the IR, but I did order it from Revival Animal Health and it cost me about $50 with shipping. It came pretty fast, but I might have paid extra to have it emergency shipped. I think it's listed as EqStim; that's the generic version. You probably don't need more than the 5 mL to start off with. I think the dosage for IR is .25 to .5 mL per 8 lb. cat, but don't quote me on that. I really hope that Slinky's fever goes down soon! I know it's worrying you, but I have heard several people say that a fever is not necessarily a bad thing always; it's the body's way of fighting off things. Maybe it's a good fever. Fingers and paws crossed here in Dallas. :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again everyone. Thanks so much for your support and ideas. After Slinky's fever spiked to 104 last night, we gave him some sub-q fluids and it went down to 103. :-| Not great, but better. He did eat during the night and seemed to do okay...but his fever is back up to 104 now. We tried to give him more fluids, but he won't keep the needle in. He got about 250 cc's in him but that's it. We're gonna try more later with a smaller needle, but...ugh. I HATE having to poke him and take his temp and stuff all the time...he's getting really sick of it! Poor baby. He feels very hot and is pretty lethargic. He's still eating though. The doctor called to check in a bit ago (!!!)...i don't know if that's normal but it certainly hasn't been normal for me!!! She said she's glad to hear he's eating. She thinks I'm doing all I can and that eating and being alert might be a good day for him. :( Seems possible that the fever is his body adjusting to the transfusion, but with the FeLV it's hard to know. I asked her about IR and Interferon and she said she's never used it but saw it used with dogs in vet school. She said she'd ask around today and see if anyone had had positive results using it with cats with FeLV. I saw someone's post about getting it online w/o a scrip (can't remember who posted it...sorry). It's not cheap! But I may be able to swing a little. It's $35 for 5mL, $150 for 50mL. But I have NO idea what the dose would even be. Anyone know? I have a vet tech here all week so we could give it here for now...but what would the dose be?? Any ideas or suggestions would be great. Thanks!!! MJ - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
Re: Dilemma - Consistent slight positive felv test results
This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case. This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!! :) Wendy --- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix VACCINATED negatives with your positive. There is at least one list member who had 3 unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly mixing with an felv+... Regards, Beth On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donna, A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives, mainly because we did not know we had a positive initially. But once most of us found out, we felt separating the kitties would be more stressful than risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't think many here, if any, have had that happen. I've been a member here for a year and a half. Thus, the general consensus here is that as adult cats, it is difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of contracting. I am not sure what to make of the conflicting test results. We do know that there are a lot of false positives and false negatives, which doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of the PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in your home and how old are they? Do you think they would get along with Elise? :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: Latest Slinky Update
Thanks Wendy!! I did ask the doctor about Epogen...she said if he was regenerating some, we could look at Epogen to increase it. I moved our appointment to Wed. night so I'm sure we'll talk about it then. I'll talk to her about the IR then too. He actually seems a bit better today. His temp was 104.1 this morning and we gave him a bout 250cc's of fluid (he kept moving and getting the needle out!), but he was looking a little pinker. He's been quiet all day, but his temp was down to 103.8 tonight so that's good!! He's still eating, and he's even a LITTLE playful...not running around, but will bat and chew a feather or string. He wouldn't do that at the beginning of this ordeal so I'm taking that as a good sign. Thanks again for all your prayers! I'm going to try to go to work tomorrow (I've stayed home for 3 days but don't have any vacation time left right now!). My friend will still be here, so she'll keep an eye on him for me and I'm only a 10 minute walk away if he goes downhill. But keep me in your prayers...that I'll be able to function without worrying too much. And keep sending him those healing thoughts!! You guys are awesome! Thanks! MJ p.s. Slinky has his own myspace page now. If you're interested, it's www.myspace.com/slinkecat Even has a slideshow of pics. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marissa, I can't remember what dose I gave Cricket of the IR, but I did order it from Revival Animal Health and it cost me about $50 with shipping. It came pretty fast, but I might have paid extra to have it emergency shipped. I think it's listed as EqStim; that's the generic version. You probably don't need more than the 5 mL to start off with. I think the dosage for IR is .25 to .5 mL per 8 lb. cat, but don't quote me on that. I really hope that Slinky's fever goes down soon! I know it's worrying you, but I have heard several people say that a fever is not necessarily a bad thing always; it's the body's way of fighting off things. Maybe it's a good fever. Fingers and paws crossed here in Dallas. :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi again everyone. Thanks so much for your support and ideas. After Slinky's fever spiked to 104 last night, we gave him some sub-q fluids and it went down to 103. :-| Not great, but better. He did eat during the night and seemed to do okay...but his fever is back up to 104 now. We tried to give him more fluids, but he won't keep the needle in. He got about 250 cc's in him but that's it. We're gonna try more later with a smaller needle, but...ugh. I HATE having to poke him and take his temp and stuff all the time...he's getting really sick of it! Poor baby. He feels very hot and is pretty lethargic. He's still eating though. The doctor called to check in a bit ago (!!!)...i don't know if that's normal but it certainly hasn't been normal for me!!! She said she's glad to hear he's eating. She thinks I'm doing all I can and that eating and being alert might be a good day for him. :( Seems possible that the fever is his body adjusting to the transfusion, but with the FeLV it's hard to know. I asked her about IR and Interferon and she said she's never used it but saw it used with dogs in vet school. She said she'd ask around today and see if anyone had had positive results using it with cats with FeLV. I saw someone's post about getting it online w/o a scrip (can't remember who posted it...sorry). It's not cheap! But I may be able to swing a little. It's $35 for 5mL, $150 for 50mL. But I have NO idea what the dose would even be. Anyone know? I have a vet tech here all week so we could give it here for now...but what would the dose be?? Any ideas or suggestions would be great. Thanks!!! MJ - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
Re: Best way to give Vitamin C?
Hey. I've been trying to get Slinky to take his C and Lysine as well. I was mixing the powders with a little water and some dried chicken powder (I used to have somme Halo Dinner Party Chicken and Herbs food enhancer) and syringe feeding it. That went down fairly well...he LOVES that chicken taste. Tonight I mixed it in with a little chicken baby food, adding some water to thin it out, and syringe feeding that. He took that really well. Just some ideas...that's what I've done. I'd love to know if anyone has suggestions for ways to kill the taste though. Thanks! MJ C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vet gave me some liquid Vitamin C to give Tomi, but it's horrible tasting stuff (I tried it). Very acidic/sour and chemical tasting. He absolutely hates it, and even gags afterwards, though he hasn't actually vomited anything up yet. I tried buying Vitamin C powder to see if he would eat it in baby food, but he knows its there and won't touch the food (he will eat the food with Lysine in it). Is there anything I could mix the powder with to reduce the acidic/sour taste that I could still administer with a syringe? Thanks, Cassandra - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...)
Just wondering who out there has mixed and had negatives turned positive? Thanks... Gloria On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:34 PM, wendy wrote: This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case. This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!! :) Wendy --- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix VACCINATED negatives with your positive. There is at least one list member who had 3 unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly mixing with an felv+... Regards, Beth On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donna, A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives, mainly because we did not know we had a positive initially. But once most of us found out, we felt separating the kitties would be more stressful than risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't think many here, if any, have had that happen. I've been a member here for a year and a half. Thus, the general consensus here is that as adult cats, it is difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of contracting. I am not sure what to make of the conflicting test results. We do know that there are a lot of false positives and false negatives, which doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of the PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in your home and how old are they? Do you think they would get along with Elise? :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna __ __ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ __ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 __ __ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: cat food recall
Thanks Lori. I cannot believe I am saying this, but this might be the first time where it was okay to feed your cat Friskies. Although Friskies IS a commercial brand that is neither high quality nor contains human grade meat, I do not see any of their products on this list; which is a plus in my book! That is a relief for those of us who have cats who are junk food junkies. :) I cannot believe that Nutro Max Gourmet Classics and Nutro Natural Choice made it on the list! Nutro is supposed to be a high-end cat food! Lora --- Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the wet cuts in gravy kind. They should all be off the shelves by now but check your cupboards. I can't believe those varied brands are made by the same company. My cats don't eat any of these but check for yours. Americas Choice, Preferred Pets 2. Authority 3. Best Choice 4. Companion 5. Compliments 6. Demoulas Market Basket 7. Eukanuba 8. Fine Feline Cat 9. Food Lion 10. Foodtown 11. Giant Companion 12. Hannaford 13. Hill Country Fare 14. Hy-Vee 15. Iams 16. Laura Lynn 17. Li'l Red 18. Loving Meals 19. Meijer's Main Choice 20. Nutriplan 21. Nutro Max Gourmet Classics 22. Nutro Natural Choice 23. Paws 24. Pet Pride 25. Presidents Choice 26. Price Chopper 27. Priority 28. Save-A-Lot 29. Schnucks 30. Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans 31. Sophistacat 32. Special Kitty Canada 33. Special Kitty US 34. Springfield Prize 35. Sprout 36. Total Pet 37. Wegmans 38. Western Family 39. White Rose 40. Winn Dixie Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
