Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...)
I have 5 cats, 3 that are older, and 2 that I picked up as kittens two and a half years ago. Just found out both the 2.5 year olds are FeLV+, so I am thinking one of them had it and passed it on to the other one while they were kittens. My 3 older kitties all tested negative on the first test, so its likely they have been exposed for 2.5 years to the virus and managed to throw it off. I'm just trying to decide now if I should vaccinate my older ones. I would think they would have picked it up by now if they were going to get it at all. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...) Just wondering who out there has mixed and had negatives turned positive? Thanks... Gloria On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:34 PM, wendy wrote: This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case. This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!! :) Wendy --- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix VACCINATED negatives with your positive. There is at least one list member who had 3 unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly mixing with an felv+... Regards, Beth On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donna, A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives, mainly because we did not know we had a positive initially. But once most of us found out, we felt separating the kitties would be more stressful than risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't think many here, if any, have had that happen. I've been a member here for a year and a half. Thus, the general consensus here is that as adult cats, it is difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of contracting. I am not sure what to make of the conflicting test results. We do know that there are a lot of false positives and false negatives, which doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of the PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in your home and how old are they? Do you think they would get along with Elise? :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna __ __ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ __ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 __ __ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: cat food recall
Fancy Feast was not on the list either ... yet? - Original Message - From: Lora [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:50 AM Subject: Re: cat food recall Thanks Lori. I cannot believe I am saying this, but this might be the first time where it was okay to feed your cat Friskies. Although Friskies IS a commercial brand that is neither high quality nor contains human grade meat, I do not see any of their products on this list; which is a plus in my book! That is a relief for those of us who have cats who are junk food junkies. :) I cannot believe that Nutro Max Gourmet Classics and Nutro Natural Choice made it on the list! Nutro is supposed to be a high-end cat food! Lora --- Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the wet cuts in gravy kind. They should all be off the shelves by now but check your cupboards. I can't believe those varied brands are made by the same company. My cats don't eat any of these but check for yours. Americas Choice, Preferred Pets 2. Authority 3. Best Choice 4. Companion 5. Compliments 6. Demoulas Market Basket 7. Eukanuba 8. Fine Feline Cat 9. Food Lion 10. Foodtown 11. Giant Companion 12. Hannaford 13. Hill Country Fare 14. Hy-Vee 15. Iams 16. Laura Lynn 17. Li'l Red 18. Loving Meals 19. Meijer's Main Choice 20. Nutriplan 21. Nutro Max Gourmet Classics 22. Nutro Natural Choice 23. Paws 24. Pet Pride 25. Presidents Choice 26. Price Chopper 27. Priority 28. Save-A-Lot 29. Schnucks 30. Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans 31. Sophistacat 32. Special Kitty Canada 33. Special Kitty US 34. Springfield Prize 35. Sprout 36. Total Pet 37. Wegmans 38. Western Family 39. White Rose 40. Winn Dixie Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
RE: Latest Slinky Update
Dear Marissa, it's wonderful that Slinky is a) eating and b) interested in playing! Continuing to send zillions of healing vibes to your little sweetheart and prayers for your calmness of mind. It's great that you have such supportive and helpful friends nearby, so you don't have to worry about him being on his own while you're at work. Most of all, it's wonderful that Slinky has such a loving, caring mom. hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 9:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Latest Slinky Update Thanks Wendy!! I did ask the doctor about Epogen...she said if he was regenerating some, we could look at Epogen to increase it. I moved our appointment to Wed. night so I'm sure we'll talk about it then. I'll talk to her about the IR then too. He actually seems a bit better today. His temp was 104.1 this morning and we gave him a bout 250cc's of fluid (he kept moving and getting the needle out!), but he was looking a little pinker. He's been quiet all day, but his temp was down to 103.8 tonight so that's good!! He's still eating, and he's even a LITTLE playful...not running around, but will bat and chew a feather or string. He wouldn't do that at the beginning of this ordeal so I'm taking that as a good sign. Thanks again for all your prayers! I'm going to try to go to work tomorrow (I've stayed home for 3 days but don't have any vacation time left right now!). My friend will still be here, so she'll keep an eye on him for me and I'm only a 10 minute walk away if he goes downhill. But keep me in your prayers...that I'll be able to function without worrying too much. And keep sending him those healing thoughts!! You guys are awesome! Thanks! MJ p.s. Slinky has his own myspace page now. If you're interested, it's www.myspace.com/slinkecat Even has a slideshow of pics. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marissa, I can't remember what dose I gave Cricket of the IR, but I did order it from Revival Animal Health and it cost me about $50 with shipping. It came pretty fast, but I might have paid extra to have it emergency shipped. I think it's listed as EqStim; that's the generic version. You probably don't need more than the 5 mL to start off with. I think the dosage for IR is .25 to .5 mL per 8 lb. cat, but don't quote me on that. I really hope that Slinky's fever goes down soon! I know it's worrying you, but I have heard several people say that a fever is not necessarily a bad thing always; it's the body's way of fighting off things. Maybe it's a good fever. Fingers and paws crossed here in Dallas. :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi again everyone. Thanks so much for your support and ideas. After Slinky's fever spiked to 104 last night, we gave him some sub-q fluids and it went down to 103. :-| Not great, but better. He did eat during the night and seemed to do okay...but his fever is back up to 104 now. We tried to give him more fluids, but he won't keep the needle in. He got about 250 cc's in him but that's it. We're gonna try more later with a smaller needle, but...ugh. I HATE having to poke him and take his temp and stuff all the time...he's getting really sick of it! Poor baby. He feels very hot and is pretty lethargic. He's still eating though. The doctor called to check in a bit ago (!!!)...i don't know if that's normal but it certainly hasn't been normal for me!!! She said she's glad to hear he's eating. She thinks I'm doing all I can and that eating and being alert might be a good day for him. :( Seems possible that the fever is his body adjusting to the transfusion, but with the FeLV it's hard to know. I asked her about IR and Interferon and she said she's never used it but saw it used with dogs in vet school. She said she'd ask around today and see if anyone had had positive results using it with cats with FeLV. I saw someone's post about getting it online w/o a scrip (can't remember who posted it...sorry). It's not cheap! But I may be able to swing a little. It's $35 for 5mL, $150 for 50mL. But I have NO idea what the dose would even be. Anyone know? I have a vet tech here all week so we could give it here for now...but what would the dose be?? Any ideas or suggestions would be great. Thanks!!! MJ
RE: Junior update-not Lymphoma
Dear Sally, Sending zillions of healing vibes for Junior. He sounds a real little trooper. It's good to hear he doesn't have lymphoma. hugs to you both, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Kate; Kathy Bennett; Brandi C; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; feline_lymphoma@yahoogroups.com Subject: Junior update-not Lymphoma Hi Everyone I called the vet today regarding the needle aspiration of the lymph nodes. She is confident that it is not Lymphoma. He has fatty tissue and nutrophils indicating inflammation from infection. The Baytril will help with the infection. She gave him a months supply. I reordered his Transfer Factor Plus. I think that has helped keep him stable. I must say Junior is quite the fighter. His lymph node behind his ear has been swollen for a while. The swelling would usually go down at night. He seems to has less sight than before. Most of the swelling is on the side of the good eye. I am hoping his lack of sight is temporary. The Matacam, she would only give twice a week and would be given to further reduce inflammation and pain. She wants to give the Baytril time to work before possibly using the Metacam. I feel better that Junior has seen Dr Staunton. Thanks for all your prayers and help. The Fight goes on Sally Davis IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers' particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: cat food recall
Del, I noticed that too. Thank God Purina products are not manufactured via menufoods! Also, I noticed that Wal-Mart's generic store brand of cat food Special Kitty is on this list. However are all varities of Special Kitty contaminated i.e. dry food, canned food, gravy-cuts or is the list strictly for gravy-cuts ONLY?! --- Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fancy Feast was not on the list either ... yet? --- Lora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Lori. I cannot believe I am saying this, but this might be the first time where it was okay to feed your cat Friskies. Although Friskies IS a commercial brand that is neither high quality nor contains human grade meat, I do not see any of their products on this list; which is a plus in my book! That is a relief for those of us who have cats who are junk food junkies. :) I cannot believe that Nutro Max Gourmet Classics and Nutro Natural Choice made it on the list! Nutro is supposed to be a high-end cat food! Lora --- Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the wet cuts in gravy kind. They should all be off the shelves by now but check your cupboards. I can't believe those varied brands are made by the same company. My cats don't eat any of these but check for yours. Americas Choice, Preferred Pets 2. Authority 3. Best Choice 4. Companion 5. Compliments 6. Demoulas Market Basket 7. Eukanuba 8. Fine Feline Cat 9. Food Lion 10. Foodtown 11. Giant Companion 12. Hannaford 13. Hill Country Fare 14. Hy-Vee 15. Iams 16. Laura Lynn 17. Li'l Red 18. Loving Meals 19. Meijer's Main Choice 20. Nutriplan 21. Nutro Max Gourmet Classics 22. Nutro Natural Choice 23. Paws 24. Pet Pride 25. Presidents Choice 26. Price Chopper 27. Priority 28. Save-A-Lot 29. Schnucks 30. Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans 31. Sophistacat 32. Special Kitty Canada 33. Special Kitty US 34. Springfield Prize 35. Sprout 36. Total Pet 37. Wegmans 38. Western Family 39. White Rose 40. Winn Dixie Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...)
Hi Gloria, I believe it was Bonnie that brought home a false negative kitten that possibly infected 3 of 6 indoor cats. If I remember correctly, one was able to throw the virus and 2 were not and eventually passed. Not sure if the existing cats were healthy adults, or when they had last been tested. Bonnie, if you are out there and this was your experience, can you chime in with more details? Thanks so much! Beth On 3/20/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering who out there has mixed and had negatives turned positive? Thanks... Gloria On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:34 PM, wendy wrote: This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case. This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!! :) Wendy --- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix VACCINATED negatives with your positive. There is at least one list member who had 3 unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly mixing with an felv+... Regards, Beth On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donna, A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives, mainly because we did not know we had a positive initially. But once most of us found out, we felt separating the kitties would be more stressful than risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't think many here, if any, have had that happen. I've been a member here for a year and a half. Thus, the general consensus here is that as adult cats, it is difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of contracting. I am not sure what to make of the conflicting test results. We do know that there are a lot of false positives and false negatives, which doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of the PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in your home and how old are they? Do you think they would get along with Elise? :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to the group for experiences on dealing with a cat whose scenario is as written below. I would very much like to hear from anyone who may have experienced, or be currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice and guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma: I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old around 3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of rescue but snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet vaccinated her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't too happy about that myself). I always retest kittens and upon her retest about a month later she came up slight felv+. I had an elisa done which was positive. I had more snap tests done - all of them all came up slight positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR Assay done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood, not bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of these tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've had her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I had done - just out of curiosity - was March of last year and that came up slight positive again. Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call her because she has a big white 'angel' on her back :), has been relegated to the only place I could keep her all this time, which is a relatively small spare bedroom. I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let her integrate at some point with the rest of the house, but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay was negative, she keeps testing slight positive on the snap combo test. I am so confused about the more extensive test being negative, but all the lower level tests being positive. I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare room, and I cannot imagine her having to live her entire life in that one room. I just don't know what else I can do. The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or is not, felv positive and should she, or should she not, be allowed to integrate with non-positives? Thanks to all, Donna __ __ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. __ __ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 __ __ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: Slinky is Home...but Feverish again
MJ, I'm not sure why nobody has suggested trying to find out what is causing the anemia, and I guarantee you clavamox and baytril will not take care of the heamobartonella as well as the doxy if they will at all. The tetracycline group of drugs is what is need to treat hemo. Here are some documents to back this up: To treat Haemobartonella Felis, antibiotics such as tetracycline, oxytetracycline, or doxycycline are given for three weeks. Although it may seem contradictory, in cats with a rapid course of disease, large doses of prednisolone (a steroid) may sometimes be given to suppress the destruction of the red blood cells by the body. In some animals, it is necessary to give one or multiple transfusions. A glucose rich intravenous fluid may be life saving in very weak and debilitated pets. Some cats cannot tolerate tetracycline and will develop fever, vomiting, or diarrhea. If this occurs, the veterinarian may lower the dosage or choose another antibiotic. Only the veterinarian should make changes in treatment. http://www.geocities.com/pvis1960/hemobartonella.html Specific treatment for feline infectious anemia includes tetracycline antibiotics and prednisone. Patients may require supportive care, including blood transfusion. Although treatment does not eliminate the infection completely, cats that survive are thought to have a good long-term outlook. http://www.missionmedvet.com/encyclopedia/haemobartonellosis.htm *What are the symptoms of haemobartonellosis?* Symptoms vary depending on the number of red blood cells infected, the stage of the parasitic infection, the health status of the cat the rapidity of infection, but can include; * Anaemia * Loss of appetite * Weakness * Pale mucous membranes (ie: pale gums) * Weight loss * Jaundice * Fever * Enlarged lymph nodes * Enlarged spleen Untreated, FIA can cause death. *How is haemobartonellosis treated?* Antibiotics oxytetracycline or doxycycline. Treatment with a glucocorticoid such as prednisolone may also be prescribed to diminish the immune-mediated component of the disease process. Severely anaemic cats may require blood transfusions. http://www.cat-world.com.au/FelineInfectiousAnaemia.htm It can be treated with tetracycline class antibiotics with good success but even treated cats should be considered to be carriers of the disease and may experience recurrences later. Supportive care is often necessary for several days in cats with this condition and during the acute infection if may be necessary to use corticosteroids despite the immune suppression associated with these medications. It is very important to control fleas and other blood sucking organisms in a multiple cat household in which one member is found to have hemobartonellosis. It is a good idea to occasionally do followup bloodwork to make sure anemia is not recurring. Mike Richards, DVM http://www.vetinfo.com/catpara.html#Hemobartonellosis I have NEVER heard of or read of treating heamobartonella with clavamox or baytril. Bailey was on doxy, prednisolone and epogen for his anemia. He had a bone marrow aspirate to find out why he was anemic. He did not have hemo but we treated for it just in case. He got the doxy for about 6 weeks. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Mama Kitty
I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning. She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with Acemannan. She's had a wonderful year, is at a healthy weight, and had practically reverted to kittenhood! I noticed last night though that she didn't seem to be eating. This morning she just seemed very lethargic to me - almost like a rag doll in my arms. When I let her outside - she went straight to some red clay dirt I recently dug and was eating that. Seems like I read here on the list that this is called 'Pica'. My first thought was that red clay contains a lot of iron and so perhaps she was trying to get a nutrient she needed. She ate some grass too. She really started to stress when I tried to look at her gums and so I didn't push it. I suspect she may be beginning to get anemic though...I just have a feeling. Last time she crashed (when she was first diagnosed) - that nictating membrane was showing in her eyes and she had lost a good bit of weight (down to 7lbs). Her eyes look good now - she just seems sleepy - and her weight seems good from what I can tell. It could be that she is just fighting a URI or some kind of infection. It's so much harder for them to fight off these things when they have FeVL+. I got her to eat a couple of bites of food before I left for work. I put her in her favorite chair before I left too because as lethargic as she seems, she would hardly be able to defend herself if a big dog came by and wanted to harrass her. Called the vet a bit ago and they will see her at 4pm. Maybe I am just being paranoid but with this disease I'm not taking any chances. Please send prayers and good vibes our way. elizabeth and mama kitty
Re: cat food recall
well, purina CAT FOOD products aren't.http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/purina03_07.html On 3/20/07, Lora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Del, I noticed that too. Thank God Purina products are not manufactured via menufoods! Also, I noticed that Wal-Mart's generic store brand of cat food Special Kitty is on this list. However are all varities of Special Kitty contaminated i.e. dry food, canned food, gravy-cuts or is the list strictly for gravy-cuts ONLY?! --- Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fancy Feast was not on the list either ... yet? --- Lora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Lori. I cannot believe I am saying this, but this might be the first time where it was okay to feed your cat Friskies. Although Friskies IS a commercial brand that is neither high quality nor contains human grade meat, I do not see any of their products on this list; which is a plus in my book! That is a relief for those of us who have cats who are junk food junkies. :) I cannot believe that Nutro Max Gourmet Classics and Nutro Natural Choice made it on the list! Nutro is supposed to be a high-end cat food! Lora --- Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the wet cuts in gravy kind. They should all be off the shelves by now but check your cupboards. I can't believe those varied brands are made by the same company. My cats don't eat any of these but check for yours. Americas Choice, Preferred Pets 2. Authority 3. Best Choice 4. Companion 5. Compliments 6. Demoulas Market Basket 7. Eukanuba 8. Fine Feline Cat 9. Food Lion 10. Foodtown 11. Giant Companion 12. Hannaford 13. Hill Country Fare 14. Hy-Vee 15. Iams 16. Laura Lynn 17. Li'l Red 18. Loving Meals 19. Meijer's Main Choice 20. Nutriplan 21. Nutro Max Gourmet Classics 22. Nutro Natural Choice 23. Paws 24. Pet Pride 25. Presidents Choice 26. Price Chopper 27. Priority 28. Save-A-Lot 29. Schnucks 30. Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans 31. Sophistacat 32. Special Kitty Canada 33. Special Kitty US 34. Springfield Prize 35. Sprout 36. Total Pet 37. Wegmans 38. Western Family 39. White Rose 40. Winn Dixie Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: cat food recall
my cats are ordering out for pizza and chinese til this is all resolved, they tell me On 3/20/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, purina CAT FOOD products aren't.http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/purina03_07.html On 3/20/07, Lora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Del, I noticed that too. Thank God Purina products are not manufactured via menufoods! Also, I noticed that Wal-Mart's generic store brand of cat food Special Kitty is on this list. However are all varities of Special Kitty contaminated i.e. dry food, canned food, gravy-cuts or is the list strictly for gravy-cuts ONLY?! --- Del H. Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fancy Feast was not on the list either ... yet? --- Lora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Lori. I cannot believe I am saying this, but this might be the first time where it was okay to feed your cat Friskies. Although Friskies IS a commercial brand that is neither high quality nor contains human grade meat, I do not see any of their products on this list; which is a plus in my book! That is a relief for those of us who have cats who are junk food junkies. :) I cannot believe that Nutro Max Gourmet Classics and Nutro Natural Choice made it on the list! Nutro is supposed to be a high-end cat food! Lora --- Lori S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the wet cuts in gravy kind. They should all be off the shelves by now but check your cupboards. I can't believe those varied brands are made by the same company. My cats don't eat any of these but check for yours. Americas Choice, Preferred Pets 2. Authority 3. Best Choice 4. Companion 5. Compliments 6. Demoulas Market Basket 7. Eukanuba 8. Fine Feline Cat 9. Food Lion 10. Foodtown 11. Giant Companion 12. Hannaford 13. Hill Country Fare 14. Hy-Vee 15. Iams 16. Laura Lynn 17. Li'l Red 18. Loving Meals 19. Meijer's Main Choice 20. Nutriplan 21. Nutro Max Gourmet Classics 22. Nutro Natural Choice 23. Paws 24. Pet Pride 25. Presidents Choice 26. Price Chopper 27. Priority 28. Save-A-Lot 29. Schnucks 30. Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans 31. Sophistacat 32. Special Kitty Canada 33. Special Kitty US 34. Springfield Prize 35. Sprout 36. Total Pet 37. Wegmans 38. Western Family 39. White Rose 40. Winn Dixie Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Dilemma - Mixing (was consistent...)
Oh, also, as far as false negatives go, I have had it happen.
Of my 5 rescue kittens, one tested positive at 8 weeks and
four tested negative. When Will Feral spiked a fever at 14
weeks, he retested positive. He had had no contact with
the other positive (or our existing adult cat) since the first test.
He must have still been incubating the virus at the first test.
The others all tested negative the second time. They were
vaccinated and I now mix everyone. Unless somebody
gets sick, I don't think we will do any more testing...
Four kittens (year old next month) are lined up right now on
our half-wall, all staring intently at the tv, (greyhounds on
Animal Planet). They are so darling!
(:o{
Beth
On 3/20/07, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Gloria,
I believe it was Bonnie that brought home a false negative
kitten that possibly infected 3 of 6 indoor cats. If I remember
correctly, one was able to throw the virus and 2 were not and
eventually passed. Not sure if the existing cats were healthy
adults, or when they had last been tested. Bonnie, if you are
out there and this was your experience, can you chime in with
more details? Thanks so much!
Beth
On 3/20/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering who out there has mixed and had negatives turned
positive?
Thanks...
Gloria
On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:34 PM, wendy wrote:
This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not
already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never
be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case.
This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!!
:)
Wendy
--- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix
VACCINATED negatives with your positive.
There is at least one list member who had 3
unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly
mixing with an felv+...
Regards,
Beth
On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Donna,
A lot of us here mix our positives and negatives,
mainly because we did not know we had a positive
initially. But once most of us found out, we felt
separating the kitties would be more stressful
than
risking a positive contracting the virus. I don't
think many here, if any, have had that happen.
I've
been a member here for a year and a half. Thus,
the
general consensus here is that as adult cats, it
is
difficult to contract the virus. Kittens are much
more susceptible, and bite wounds an easier way of
contracting. I am not sure what to make of the
conflicting test results. We do know that there
are a
lot of false positives and false negatives, which
doesn't help your situation. I've never heard of
the
PCR Assay test. How many others do you have in
your
home and how old are they? Do you think they
would
get along with Elise?
:)
Wendy
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking to the group for experiences on
dealing
with
a cat whose scenario is as written below. I
would
very much
like to hear from anyone who may have
experienced,
or be
currently experiencing, this same thing. Advice
and
guidance is sought. Here is the dilemma:
I have a kitty I rescued at about 12 weeks old
around
3 yrs ago. She had a bad uri at the time of
rescue
but
snap combo tested fiv/felv negative. The vet
vaccinated
her while she will sick with this uri (I wasn't
too
happy
about that myself). I always retest kittens and
upon
her
retest about a month later she came up slight
felv+.
I had an elisa done which was positive. I had
more
snap tests done - all of them all came up slight
positive. I eventually had an IFA done and a PCR
Assay
done. The PCR Assay for felv (done with blood,
not
bone marrow, of course) was negative. All of
these
tests were done over the course of 2 years (I've
had
her for 3 yrs now). The last snap combo test I
had
done - just out of curiosity - was March of last
year
and that came up slight positive again.
Unfortunately, Elise (or Lisee Angel as I call
her
because she has a big white 'angel' on her back
:),
has been relegated to the only place I could
keep
her
all this time, which is a relatively small spare
bedroom.
I had always hoped I'd be able to at least let
her
integrate at some point with the rest of the
house,
but her consistent slight felv+ snap combo test
worries me too much. Even though the PCR Assay
was
negative, she keeps testing slight positive on
the
snap combo test. I am so confused about the more
extensive test being negative, but all the lower
level
tests being positive.
I feel so awful that she is stuck in that spare
room,
and I cannot imagine her having to live her
entire
life in that one room. I just don't know what
else I
can do.
The dilemma is not really knowing if she is, or
is
not,
felv positive and should she, or should she not,
be
Re: Mama Kitty
Sending positive thoughts for Mama Kitty, hope the 4:00 appointment goes well. Hugs, Beth On 3/20/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning. She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with Acemannan. She's had a wonderful year, is at a healthy weight, and had practically reverted to kittenhood! I noticed last night though that she didn't seem to be eating. This morning she just seemed very lethargic to me - almost like a rag doll in my arms. When I let her outside - she went straight to some red clay dirt I recently dug and was eating that. Seems like I read here on the list that this is called 'Pica'. My first thought was that red clay contains a lot of iron and so perhaps she was trying to get a nutrient she needed. She ate some grass too. She really started to stress when I tried to look at her gums and so I didn't push it. I suspect she may be beginning to get anemic though...I just have a feeling. Last time she crashed (when she was first diagnosed) - that nictating membrane was showing in her eyes and she had lost a good bit of weight (down to 7lbs). Her eyes look good now - she just seems sleepy - and her weight seems good from what I can tell. It could be that she is just fighting a URI or some kind of infection. It's so much harder for them to fight off these things when they have FeVL+. I got her to eat a couple of bites of food before I left for work. I put her in her favorite chair before I left too because as lethargic as she seems, she would hardly be able to defend herself if a big dog came by and wanted to harrass her. Called the vet a bit ago and they will see her at 4pm. Maybe I am just being paranoid but with this disease I'm not taking any chances. Please send prayers and good vibes our way. elizabeth and mama kitty
Re: cat food recall
Oops! I stand corrected. Purina does do LIMITED business with Menufoods. Purina voluntarily withdraw Mighty Dog® 5.3 ounce pouch products in response to Menu Foods recall. However, Purina Mills, Inc. manufactures the majority of Purina's products. Purina Mills, Inc. is the largest manufacturer of animal feed products in the United States, producing more than five million tons of feed each year. Through its 50 feed mills, the company produces thousands of feed formulations specially designed for various types of animals, including beef and dairy cattle, goats, horses, sheep, pigs, poultry, pets, and lab and zoo animals. Purina also operates more than 35 retail outlets, which sell animal feed, lawn and garden supplies, hardware, and related items. This reminds me of the Simply Orange juice commerical. They own the trees, the grove, the oranges. If you are going to make something you might as well own it. Purina not only owns their own products, they make it too! I just cannot believe that these high-end products like Nutro do NOT manufacture their own products! I expected better quality from them. It is really sad to find out that a common commerical food manufactures their own product when these high quality pet food companies do not. Makes you wonder if spending that extra dollar for their expensive prices tag is worth it. And as far as the Wal-Mart Special Kitty question, I found the answer. The recall was for the pouches only. The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
Re: Mama Kitty
Thank you, Beth. I'm having a terrible time focusing on work today. I just want to be with my girl :-( I'm hoping that whatever this is -- we've caught it early. elizabeth On 3/20/07, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sending positive thoughts for Mama Kitty, hope the 4:00 appointment goes well. Hugs, Beth On 3/20/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning. She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with Acemannan. She's had a wonderful year, is at a healthy weight, and had practically reverted to kittenhood! I noticed last night though that she didn't seem to be eating. This morning she just seemed very lethargic to me - almost like a rag doll in my arms. When I let her outside - she went straight to some red clay dirt I recently dug and was eating that. Seems like I read here on the list that this is called 'Pica'. My first thought was that red clay contains a lot of iron and so perhaps she was trying to get a nutrient she needed. She ate some grass too. She really started to stress when I tried to look at her gums and so I didn't push it. I suspect she may be beginning to get anemic though...I just have a feeling. Last time she crashed (when she was first diagnosed) - that nictating membrane was showing in her eyes and she had lost a good bit of weight (down to 7lbs). Her eyes look good now - she just seems sleepy - and her weight seems good from what I can tell. It could be that she is just fighting a URI or some kind of infection. It's so much harder for them to fight off these things when they have FeVL+. I got her to eat a couple of bites of food before I left for work. I put her in her favorite chair before I left too because as lethargic as she seems, she would hardly be able to defend herself if a big dog came by and wanted to harrass her. Called the vet a bit ago and they will see her at 4pm. Maybe I am just being paranoid but with this disease I'm not taking any chances. Please send prayers and good vibes our way. elizabeth and mama kitty
Re: Mama Kitty
Hi Elizabeth, Sweet Mama Kitty will be in my prayers. I hope it's just a rough patch that will be easily gotten over. If she's a little anemic, you might look into Pet Tinic when you take MK to the vet today. Lance On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:18:19 -0500, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning. She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with Acemannan. She's had a wonderful year, is at a healthy weight, and had practically reverted to kittenhood! I noticed last night though that she didn't seem to be eating. This morning she just seemed very lethargic to me - almost like a rag doll in my arms. When I let her outside - she went straight to some red clay dirt I recently dug and was eating that. Seems like I read here on the list that this is called 'Pica'. My first thought was that red clay contains a lot of iron and so perhaps she was trying to get a nutrient she needed. She ate some grass too. She really started to stress when I tried to look at her gums and so I didn't push it. I suspect she may be beginning to get anemic though...I just have a feeling. Last time she crashed (when she was first diagnosed) - that nictating membrane was showing in her eyes and she had lost a good bit of weight (down to 7lbs). Her eyes look good now - she just seems sleepy - and her weight seems good from what I can tell. It could be that she is just fighting a URI or some kind of infection. It's so much harder for them to fight off these things when they have FeVL+. I got her to eat a couple of bites of food before I left for work. I put her in her favorite chair before I left too because as lethargic as she seems, she would hardly be able to defend herself if a big dog came by and wanted to harrass her. Called the vet a bit ago and they will see her at 4pm. Maybe I am just being paranoid but with this disease I'm not taking any chances. Please send prayers and good vibes our way. elizabeth and mama kitty -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any Ideas?
We will be making our move on April 21st. I plan to have Ki in the van with me and the others with medical issues. He will be in a carrier by himself. Any ideas on how I can minimize the stress? He will be a yr old in April. Has had no problems, and is still a slight +. I have really gotten attached to this little guy. We will travel 600 mi the first day, and 500 the next. I will spend the night in the van. (THAT outta be fun!) The rest of the cats will be in a 36' travel trailer. Just pray for us, guys. I want all of 'em there in one piece, and healthy. AND i want to get them into the house without my idiot neighbor seeing us. (she has already contacted the codes guy, and said she thinks we are moving tons of cats in...na, just 40! I have gotten hold of the law, and there isn't really much they can do. My guys do NOT run the neighborhood, and they are all vetted. Geez, i wish people would mind their own business! Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
RE: Junior update-not Lymphoma
Hi Sally, I haven't been watching the list as well as I should, and I was wondering how Junior did with his aspiration last Friday. Just saw a response to your post with the results today. I'm really glad to hear that he doesn't have lymphoma. Of course, infections of any kind are still troubling, but I know you're giving him great care. He is in my prayers. Lance -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Kate; Kathy Bennett; Brandi C; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; feline_lymphoma@yahoogroups.com Subject: Junior update-not Lymphoma Hi Everyone I called the vet today regarding the needle aspiration of the lymph nodes. She is confident that it is not Lymphoma. He has fatty tissue and nutrophils indicating inflammation from infection. The Baytril will help with the infection. She gave him a months supply. I reordered his Transfer Factor Plus. I think that has helped keep him stable. I must say Junior is quite the fighter. His lymph node behind his ear has been swollen for a while. The swelling would usually go down at night. He seems to has less sight than before. Most of the swelling is on the side of the good eye. I am hoping his lack of sight is temporary. The Matacam, she would only give twice a week and would be given to further reduce inflammation and pain. She wants to give the Baytril time to work before possibly using the Metacam. I feel better that Junior has seen Dr Staunton. Thanks for all your prayers and help. The Fight goes on Sally Davis -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mama Kitty
Thank you so much, Lance. Mama Kitty has a very strong aversion to Pet Tinnic. I wish I could get her to take it but last time she got some - it upset her so badly that she had a seizure. I promised her that she would never have to take that again. I just wish there were an easy way to get some iron in her. My vet will probably at the very least give her a vitamin B12 shot, a steroid shot, and some antibiotics. I'm just debating whether I need to order a round of Acemannan. I may just be over-reacting here but with this disease you just can't be too careful. elizabeth On 3/20/07, Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Sweet Mama Kitty will be in my prayers. I hope it's just a rough patch that will be easily gotten over. If she's a little anemic, you might look into Pet Tinic when you take MK to the vet today. Lance On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:18:19 -0500, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning. She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with Acemannan. She's had a wonderful year, is at a healthy weight, and had practically reverted to kittenhood! I noticed last night though that she didn't seem to be eating. This morning she just seemed very lethargic to me - almost like a rag doll in my arms. When I let her outside - she went straight to some red clay dirt I recently dug and was eating that. Seems like I read here on the list that this is called 'Pica'. My first thought was that red clay contains a lot of iron and so perhaps she was trying to get a nutrient she needed. She ate some grass too. She really started to stress when I tried to look at her gums and so I didn't push it. I suspect she may be beginning to get anemic though...I just have a feeling. Last time she crashed (when she was first diagnosed) - that nictating membrane was showing in her eyes and she had lost a good bit of weight (down to 7lbs). Her eyes look good now - she just seems sleepy - and her weight seems good from what I can tell. It could be that she is just fighting a URI or some kind of infection. It's so much harder for them to fight off these things when they have FeVL+. I got her to eat a couple of bites of food before I left for work. I put her in her favorite chair before I left too because as lethargic as she seems, she would hardly be able to defend herself if a big dog came by and wanted to harrass her. Called the vet a bit ago and they will see her at 4pm. Maybe I am just being paranoid but with this disease I'm not taking any chances. Please send prayers and good vibes our way. elizabeth and mama kitty -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mama Kitty
Elizabeth, If MK won't tolerate the pet tinnic, maybe she would like the raw liver shake? That would help get more iron into her. I will keep both of you in my prayers for a positive 4:00 Appointment. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, elizabeth trent wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:39:13 -0500 From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Mama Kitty Thank you so much, Lance. Mama Kitty has a very strong aversion to Pet Tinnic. I wish I could get her to take it but last time she got some - it upset her so badly that she had a seizure. I promised her that she would never have to take that again. I just wish there were an easy way to get some iron in her. My vet will probably at the very least give her a vitamin B12 shot, a steroid shot, and some antibiotics. I'm just debating whether I need to order a round of Acemannan. I may just be over-reacting here but with this disease you just can't be too careful. elizabeth
RE: Mama Kitty
Sending healing vibes for your little Mama Kitty, Elizabeth. It does sound like she could be anemic from what you say. It's great that you have a vet apptment this afternoon. I hope it's just an infection and she's bouncing around again soon. Please let us know how you get on when you have time, hugs to you both, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:18 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Mama Kitty I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning. She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with Acemannan. She's had a wonderful year, is at a healthy weight, and had practically reverted to kittenhood! I noticed last night though that she didn't seem to be eating. This morning she just seemed very lethargic to me - almost like a rag doll in my arms. When I let her outside - she went straight to some red clay dirt I recently dug and was eating that. Seems like I read here on the list that this is called 'Pica'. My first thought was that red clay contains a lot of iron and so perhaps she was trying to get a nutrient she needed. She ate some grass too. She really started to stress when I tried to look at her gums and so I didn't push it. I suspect she may be beginning to get anemic though...I just have a feeling. Last time she crashed (when she was first diagnosed) - that nictating membrane was showing in her eyes and she had lost a good bit of weight (down to 7lbs). Her eyes look good now - she just seems sleepy - and her weight seems good from what I can tell. It could be that she is just fighting a URI or some kind of infection. It's so much harder for them to fight off these things when they have FeVL+. I got her to eat a couple of bites of food before I left for work. I put her in her favorite chair before I left too because as lethargic as she seems, she would hardly be able to defend herself if a big dog came by and wanted to harrass her. Called the vet a bit ago and they will see her at 4pm. Maybe I am just being paranoid but with this disease I'm not taking any chances. Please send prayers and good vibes our way. elizabeth and mama kitty IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers' particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Mama Kitty
Thank you so much, Wendy. I remember when I first joined too -- you were one of the first people I talked to and you helped me feel so much better about everything. Thank you for being there. elizabeth On 3/20/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, Prayers going out for Mama Kitty. I can't believe it's been a whole year since you joined this list. I remember when you did. And Mama Kitty has done wonderfully all that time. I hope your vet visit goes well and it's nothing serious. Whatever the problem is, hopefully you've caught in enough time to be effective in combating it. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning. She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with Acemannan. She's had a wonderful year, is at a healthy weight, and had practically reverted to kittenhood! I noticed last night though that she didn't seem to be eating. This morning she just seemed very lethargic to me - almost like a rag doll in my arms. When I let her outside - she went straight to some red clay dirt I recently dug and was eating that. Seems like I read here on the list that this is called 'Pica'. My first thought was that red clay contains a lot of iron and so perhaps she was trying to get a nutrient she needed. She ate some grass too. She really started to stress when I tried to look at her gums and so I didn't push it. I suspect she may be beginning to get anemic though...I just have a feeling. Last time she crashed (when she was first diagnosed) - that nictating membrane was showing in her eyes and she had lost a good bit of weight (down to 7lbs). Her eyes look good now - she just seems sleepy - and her weight seems good from what I can tell. It could be that she is just fighting a URI or some kind of infection. It's so much harder for them to fight off these things when they have FeVL+. I got her to eat a couple of bites of food before I left for work. I put her in her favorite chair before I left too because as lethargic as she seems, she would hardly be able to defend herself if a big dog came by and wanted to harrass her. Called the vet a bit ago and they will see her at 4pm. Maybe I am just being paranoid but with this disease I'm not taking any chances. Please send prayers and good vibes our way. elizabeth and mama kitty TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Mama Kitty
Hi Elizabeth, I know how scary it is when our babies show any change in behavior. Try not to stress out too much before you know what's going on. (I know easier said than done). You're hyper vigilant enough to have caught this early and it's wonderful that you already have a vet appointment scheduled. Let's wait and see what the vet has to say before we freak out. Since Mama responded so well to the Acemannan before, I'd go ahead and order it, better to have it and not need it then the other way around. I agree completely about keeping our promises, (re: pet-tinic), ask the vet what you could substitute as a supplement instead. I read a good website a while back, I think it was from a CRF group talking about comparable things to pet-tinic. I'll look for it as soon as I'm done typing this. Prayers that Mama is just not feeling well right now, (hey we all have our off days), and that she bounces back quickly. Hugs to you, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Thank you so much, Lance. Mama Kitty has a very strong aversion to Pet Tinnic. I wish I could get her to take it but last time she got some - it upset her so badly that she had a seizure. I promised her that she would never have to take that again. I just wish there were an easy way to get some iron in her. My vet will probably at the very least give her a vitamin B12 shot, a steroid shot, and some antibiotics. I'm just debating whether I need to order a round of Acemannan. I may just be over-reacting here but with this disease you just can't be too careful. elizabeth
Re: Mama Kitty
Anytime...We have the best little network here. We are very lucky to have one another, since this virus is so hard to deal with sometimes. When I am able to help someone here, it makes me feel so good. I'll probably be typing posts here until I'm 90 years old. lol! If the Acemannan was very helpful for Mama Kitty, I would go ahead and order it, especially if it helps anemia. I can't remember if it does. But the fact that she's lethargic AND demonstrating signs of Pica, she could be anemic. She's SO lucky to have you Elizabeth. :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much, Wendy. I remember when I first joined too -- you were one of the first people I talked to and you helped me feel so much better about everything. Thank you for being there. elizabeth On 3/20/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, Prayers going out for Mama Kitty. I can't believe it's been a whole year since you joined this list. I remember when you did. And Mama Kitty has done wonderfully all that time. I hope your vet visit goes well and it's nothing serious. Whatever the problem is, hopefully you've caught in enough time to be effective in combating it. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning. She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with Acemannan. She's had a wonderful year, is at a healthy weight, and had practically reverted to kittenhood! I noticed last night though that she didn't seem to be eating. This morning she just seemed very lethargic to me - almost like a rag doll in my arms. When I let her outside - she went straight to some red clay dirt I recently dug and was eating that. Seems like I read here on the list that this is called 'Pica'. My first thought was that red clay contains a lot of iron and so perhaps she was trying to get a nutrient she needed. She ate some grass too. She really started to stress when I tried to look at her gums and so I didn't push it. I suspect she may be beginning to get anemic though...I just have a feeling. Last time she crashed (when she was first diagnosed) - that nictating membrane was showing in her eyes and she had lost a good bit of weight (down to 7lbs). Her eyes look good now - she just seems sleepy - and her weight seems good from what I can tell. It could be that she is just fighting a URI or some kind of infection. It's so much harder for them to fight off these things when they have FeVL+. I got her to eat a couple of bites of food before I left for work. I put her in her favorite chair before I left too because as lethargic as she seems, she would hardly be able to defend herself if a big dog came by and wanted to harrass her. Called the vet a bit ago and they will see her at 4pm. Maybe I am just being paranoid but with this disease I'm not taking any chances. Please send prayers and good vibes our way. elizabeth and mama kitty TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: Mama Kitty
Here's the webpage I was thinking about: http://members.verizon.net/~vze2r6qt/supplies/vitaminb.htm http://members.verizon.net/%7Evze2r6qt/supplies/vitaminb.htm They are mostly talking about Vita B supplements, but if you scroll down you'll see discussion on pet tinic and comparable brands. I'll keep looking for alternatives to pet tinic for iron supplement. Of course we don't know if Mama is really anemic, and even if she is, not all anemia responds to iron supplementation. Nina Nina wrote: Hi Elizabeth, I know how scary it is when our babies show any change in behavior. Try not to stress out too much before you know what's going on. (I know easier said than done). You're hyper vigilant enough to have caught this early and it's wonderful that you already have a vet appointment scheduled. Let's wait and see what the vet has to say before we freak out. Since Mama responded so well to the Acemannan before, I'd go ahead and order it, better to have it and not need it then the other way around. I agree completely about keeping our promises, (re: pet-tinic), ask the vet what you could substitute as a supplement instead. I read a good website a while back, I think it was from a CRF group talking about comparable things to pet-tinic. I'll look for it as soon as I'm done typing this. Prayers that Mama is just not feeling well right now, (hey we all have our off days), and that she bounces back quickly. Hugs to you, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Thank you so much, Lance. Mama Kitty has a very strong aversion to Pet Tinnic. I wish I could get her to take it but last time she got some - it upset her so badly that she had a seizure. I promised her that she would never have to take that again. I just wish there were an easy way to get some iron in her. My vet will probably at the very least give her a vitamin B12 shot, a steroid shot, and some antibiotics. I'm just debating whether I need to order a round of Acemannan. I may just be over-reacting here but with this disease you just can't be too careful. elizabeth
Re: Any Ideas?
Cats usually do pretty well in large enough covered carriers to include a small litterbox, bed, food and water. There was a good bit of discussion about car travel with cats on the list a while back. Lots of feliway, RR, soft music etc. Have you tried searching the archives? I can't remember all the suggestions, but a lot of them made good sense. Has Ki ever spent any time in confinement? It might help to start feeding him in the carrier he will be traveling in to get him used to feeling safe and comfortable in there. Deep breaths Dede! This must be so stressful for you, but I'm sure you'll do everything in your power to make the transition as smooth and safe as possible. It really sucks that you are already getting grief from your new neighbor! Maybe this person can be reached with lots of cajoling. It's usually the lonely, powerless feeling individuals that make trouble for others. Could it be that she is really concerned about the welfare of the cats? If so, it shouldn't take you long to convince her that they are well taken care of. Whatever her concerns, find a way to soothe her ego and perhaps she'll get whatever she needs to leave you the heck alone. Blessings on the move and the new locale! Nina dede hicken wrote: We will be making our move on April 21st. I plan to have Ki in the van with me and the others with medical issues. He will be in a carrier by himself. Any ideas on how I can minimize the stress? He will be a yr old in April. Has had no problems, and is still a slight +. I have really gotten attached to this little guy. We will travel 600 mi the first day, and 500 the next. I will spend the night in the van. (THAT outta be fun!) The rest of the cats will be in a 36' travel trailer. Just pray for us, guys. I want all of 'em there in one piece, and healthy. AND i want to get them into the house without my idiot neighbor seeing us. (she has already contacted the codes guy, and said she thinks we are moving tons of cats in...na, just 40! I have gotten hold of the law, and there isn't really much they can do. My guys do NOT run the neighborhood, and they are all vetted. Geez, i wish people would mind their own business! Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17
Re: Any Ideas?
Hi DeDe, I would like to wish you luck on your move. Don't worry about your new neighbor. People can be a real pain at times. It has always been my belief that people should be able to live however they want as long as they are not hurting anyone. I am glad we live in the country with at least an acre between us and the neighbors. If the cats are traveling in a trailer is it possible to use a feliway difuser? Maybe spray feliway inside the trailer. Whenever we transport any of our babies we talk to them in a calm relaxed voice. Will the kitties have litter boxes on their journey? Wondered if you were using cages or carriers. I would let Ki spend time in the carrier to sleep ahead of time, maybe place a toy in it or something. To get him used to it. I do wish you luck. I did not catch your entire post. Where was it you said you were moving to? -Original Message- From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 20, 2007 11:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Any Ideas? Cats usually do pretty well in large enough covered carriers to include a small litterbox, bed, food and water. There was a good bit of discussion about car travel with cats on the list a while back. Lots of feliway, RR, soft music etc. Have you tried searching the archives? I can't remember all the suggestions, but a lot of them made good sense. Has Ki ever spent any time in confinement? It might help to start feeding him in the carrier he will be traveling in to get him used to feeling safe and comfortable in there. Deep breaths Dede! This must be so stressful for you, but I'm sure you'll do everything in your power to make the transition as smooth and safe as possible. It really sucks that you are already getting grief from your new neighbor! Maybe this person can be reached with lots of cajoling. It's usually the lonely, powerless feeling individuals that make trouble for others. Could it be that she is really concerned about the welfare of the cats? If so, it shouldn't take you long to convince her that they are well taken care of. Whatever her concerns, find a way to soothe her ego and perhaps she'll get whatever she needs to leave you the heck alone. Blessings on the move and the new locale! Nina dede hicken wrote: We will be making our move on April 21st. I plan to have Ki in the van with me and the others with medical issues. He will be in a carrier by himself. Any ideas on how I can minimize the stress? He will be a yr old in April. Has had no problems, and is still a slight +. I have really gotten attached to this little guy. We will travel 600 mi the first day, and 500 the next. I will spend the night in the van. (THAT outta be fun!) The rest of the cats will be in a 36' travel trailer. Just pray for us, guys. I want all of 'em there in one piece, and healthy. AND i want to get them into the house without my idiot neighbor seeing us. (she has already contacted the codes guy, and said she thinks we are moving tons of cats in...na, just 40! I have gotten hold of the law, and there isn't really much they can do. My guys do NOT run the neighborhood, and they are all vetted. Geez, i wish people would mind their own business! Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17
Re: Mama Kitty
Thank you for those comforting words, Nina. It isn't always easy to take a step back, take a deep breath, and properly access the situation. Thank you for looking for substitute items. I keep looking over my shoulder here to see if the internet police at work are coming around. elizabeth On 3/20/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth, I know how scary it is when our babies show any change in behavior. Try not to stress out too much before you know what's going on. (I know easier said than done). You're hyper vigilant enough to have caught this early and it's wonderful that you already have a vet appointment scheduled. Let's wait and see what the vet has to say before we freak out. Since Mama responded so well to the Acemannan before, I'd go ahead and order it, better to have it and not need it then the other way around. I agree completely about keeping our promises, (re: pet-tinic), ask the vet what you could substitute as a supplement instead. I read a good website a while back, I think it was from a CRF group talking about comparable things to pet-tinic. I'll look for it as soon as I'm done typing this. Prayers that Mama is just not feeling well right now, (hey we all have our off days), and that she bounces back quickly. Hugs to you, Nina elizabeth trent wrote: Thank you so much, Lance. Mama Kitty has a very strong aversion to Pet Tinnic. I wish I could get her to take it but last time she got some - it upset her so badly that she had a seizure. I promised her that she would never have to take that again. I just wish there were an easy way to get some iron in her. My vet will probably at the very least give her a vitamin B12 shot, a steroid shot, and some antibiotics. I'm just debating whether I need to order a round of Acemannan. I may just be over-reacting here but with this disease you just can't be too careful. elizabeth
Re: Latest Slinky Update
sending GLOW and best thoughts to both of you (sorry if i don't always post right away on every thread; i send GLOW even if i sometimes forget to send the email acknowledging it. ) MC On 3/20/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Marissa, it's wonderful that Slinky is a) eating and b) interested in playing! Continuing to send zillions of healing vibes to your little sweetheart and prayers for your calmness of mind. It's great that you have such supportive and helpful friends nearby, so you don't have to worry about him being on his own while you're at work. Most of all, it's wonderful that Slinky has such a loving, caring mom. hugs, Kerry -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Marissa Johnson *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2007 9:46 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Latest Slinky Update Thanks Wendy!! I did ask the doctor about Epogen...she said if he was regenerating some, we could look at Epogen to increase it. I moved our appointment to Wed. night so I'm sure we'll talk about it then. I'll talk to her about the IR then too. He actually seems a bit better today. His temp was 104.1 this morning and we gave him a bout 250cc's of fluid (he kept moving and getting the needle out!), but he was looking a little pinker. He's been quiet all day, but his temp was down to 103.8 tonight so that's good!! He's still eating, and he's even a LITTLE playful...not running around, but will bat and chew a feather or string. He wouldn't do that at the beginning of this ordeal so I'm taking that as a good sign. Thanks again for all your prayers! I'm going to try to go to work tomorrow (I've stayed home for 3 days but don't have any vacation time left right now!). My friend will still be here, so she'll keep an eye on him for me and I'm only a 10 minute walk away if he goes downhill. But keep me in your prayers...that I'll be able to function without worrying too much. And keep sending him those healing thoughts!! You guys are awesome! Thanks! MJ p.s. Slinky has his own myspace page now. If you're interested, it's www.myspace.com/slinkecat Even has a slideshow of pics. *wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Marissa, I can't remember what dose I gave Cricket of the IR, but I did order it from Revival Animal Health and it cost me about $50 with shipping. It came pretty fast, but I might have paid extra to have it emergency shipped. I think it's listed as EqStim; that's the generic version. You probably don't need more than the 5 mL to start off with. I think the dosage for IR is .25 to .5 mL per 8 lb. cat, but don't quote me on that. I really hope that Slinky's fever goes down soon! I know it's worrying you, but I have heard several people say that a fever is not necessarily a bad thing always; it's the body's way of fighting off things. Maybe it's a good fever. Fingers and paws crossed here in Dallas. :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson wrote: Hi again everyone. Thanks so much for your support and ideas. After Slinky's fever spiked to 104 last night, we gave him some sub-q fluids and it went down to 103. :-| Not great, but better. He did eat during the night and seemed to do okay...but his fever is back up to 104 now. We tried to give him more fluids, but he won't keep the needle in. He got about 250 cc's in him but that's it. We're gonna try more later with a smaller needle, but...ugh. I HATE having to poke him and take his temp and stuff all the time...he's getting really sick of it! Poor baby. He feels very hot and is pretty lethargic. He's still eating though. The doctor called to check in a bit ago (!!!)...i don't know if that's normal but it certainly hasn't been normal for me!!! She said she's glad to hear he's eating. She thinks I'm doing all I can and that eating and being alert might be a good day for him. :( Seems possible that the fever is his body adjusting to the transfusion, but with the FeLV it's hard to know. I asked her about IR and Interferon and she said she's never used it but saw it used with dogs in vet school. She said she'd ask around today and see if anyone had had positive results using it with cats with FeLV. I saw someone's post about getting it online w/o a scrip (can't remember who posted it...sorry). It's not cheap! But I may be able to swing a little. It's $35 for 5mL, $150 for 50mL. But I have NO idea what the dose would even be. Anyone know? I have a vet tech here all week so we could give it here for now...but what would the dose be?? Any ideas or suggestions would be great. Thanks!!! MJ - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?
Hi all. First, another brief update on Slinky: Last night around 2:30 his temp spiked to 106! We gave him 75 cc's of fluids and that seemed to help. It's been hovering in the 104.3-104.7 range today. Still high, but not as scary as 106. My friend is giving him fluids (both sub-q and oral), keeping him on a cold pack, and taking his temp every hour to get a good log. It seems to start rising in the evening and then spike in the middle of the night. Our vet appointment is tomorrow at 5:40. The challenge I'm trying to sort out right now is what the next steps should be. Based on my own research and all the info you guys have been so awesome to provide, it seems like there's about 3 options: Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to treat possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to stimulate his immune system. The doctor had said she'd consider Epogen if there was some regeneration after the transfusion. She was going to ask around about the IR, and she said it wouldn't be wrong to switch to Doxy. He's out of Baytril now, so I'd like to try the Doxy. The thing is...all of these treatments are going to be expensive. IR isn't too bad...and I could even take him to a cheaper vet to get it administered (after the first dose to make sure he doesn't have a big reaction). But I don't know what Doxy and Epogen will cost. And I'm not sure how much my Dad is willing to pay at this point. I'm not sure where to draw the line on trying treatments, spending money, putting him through all these things, etc. He's been very lethargic and while he seems a LITTLE pinker, he's still very pale. I mean, if he has no quality of life then I don't want to continue to torture him. But at the same time, would the drugs give him back his quality of life? Maybe? I don't know? He's still eating (though not drinking as much but will take water via syringe), so does that mean he wants to fight? Do I do all 3 drugs and see what happens? Or pick one or two? If I pick one or two, how do I decide? Or do I do them one at a time and then which do I start with? These are all the things going through my mind right now. I've got a call in to the doctor to talk to her about some of this prior to our appointment (esp. since I'd need to order IR if we're going to do it). I also have to call dad and see what he thinks. But I just don't know how to make these decisions! I feel so ill-equipped for this! All I know is that he's depending on me and I'm responsible for his care...and I have NO clue what to do!!! Any thoughts, suggestions, or advice on how to move forward would be awesome! Thanks everyone for being such an incredible support network!! GLOW to all your furkids. MJ - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
Re: Mama Kitty
Elizabeth, I agree the iron and vitamin b taste pretty bad, maybe you can get the b injection (Fred gets these and doesn't mind them at all), and supplement the folic acid in her food. I have folic acid capsules and they are very small, I open them and sprinkle the powder on food. I know that iron also comes in an injection because that is what Bailey got. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?
Marissa, My Smokey had a terrible time getting high fevers like your Slinky. I ended up changing vets for him. The new vet gave him IR subq. I know everything says to give it IV but it seems to have helped Smokey. It has been over a year since his last fever (fingers crossed). I was able to give him the shots at home. We started twice a week for a few months then went to once a week to now I give him a shot every other month. She also gave him an injection of Winstrol every other week for about a month or two. The Doxy and Epogen I can't help you with because I have never used them. I hope this might help you. Cindy Reasoner --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. First, another brief update on Slinky: Last night around 2:30 his temp spiked to 106! We gave him 75 cc's of fluids and that seemed to help. It's been hovering in the 104.3-104.7 range today. Still high, but not as scary as 106. My friend is giving him fluids (both sub-q and oral), keeping him on a cold pack, and taking his temp every hour to get a good log. It seems to start rising in the evening and then spike in the middle of the night. Our vet appointment is tomorrow at 5:40. The challenge I'm trying to sort out right now is what the next steps should be. Based on my own research and all the info you guys have been so awesome to provide, it seems like there's about 3 options: Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to treat possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to stimulate his immune system. The doctor had said she'd consider Epogen if there was some regeneration after the transfusion. She was going to ask around about the IR, and she said it wouldn't be wrong to switch to Doxy. He's out of Baytril now, so I'd like to try the Doxy. The thing is...all of these treatments are going to be expensive. IR isn't too bad...and I could even take him to a cheaper vet to get it administered (after the first dose to make sure he doesn't have a big reaction). But I don't know what Doxy and Epogen will cost. And I'm not sure how much my Dad is willing to pay at this point. I'm not sure where to draw the line on trying treatments, spending money, putting him through all these things, etc. He's been very lethargic and while he seems a LITTLE pinker, he's still very pale. I mean, if he has no quality of life then I don't want to continue to torture him. But at the same time, would the drugs give him back his quality of life? Maybe? I don't know? He's still eating (though not drinking as much but will take water via syringe), so does that mean he wants to fight? Do I do all 3 drugs and see what happens? Or pick one or two? If I pick one or two, how do I decide? Or do I do them one at a time and then which do I start with? These are all the things going through my mind right now. I've got a call in to the doctor to talk to her about some of this prior to our appointment (esp. since I'd need to order IR if we're going to do it). I also have to call dad and see what he thinks. But I just don't know how to make these decisions! I feel so ill-equipped for this! All I know is that he's depending on me and I'm responsible for his care...and I have NO clue what to do!!! Any thoughts, suggestions, or advice on how to move forward would be awesome! Thanks everyone for being such an incredible support network!! GLOW to all your furkids. MJ - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?
Hi. Is anyone in the DC area? Does anyone know of any vets who are supportive with FeLV + cats in the DC metro area (or Baltimore area)? The vet I've been working with doesn't think we should try IR or anything else. I'm tempted to get it and give it subq myself, but...that's probably not the best idea. I've got a call in to the oncologist at the hospital and to my regular vet. But I thought I'd see if anyone knows of any especially good vets in my area. Thanks!! MJ - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?
good time to remind everyone to post the name and contact info of their FeLV-friendly vets at www.adopt.bemikitties.com -- makes it much easier for everyone else when there is need! -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?
I am just outside of DC, in the Eastern Panhandle of WV and have great vets that have always supported me and my FeLV+ catssome have even done extra research just for me. There is a lady I know in DC that might be able to help you, too, I will try to contact her. Tracy - Original Message - From: Marissa Johnson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: 3/20/2007 7:26:56 PM Subject: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area? Hi. Is anyone in the DC area? Does anyone know of any vets who are supportive with FeLV + cats in the DC metro area (or Baltimore area)? The vet I've been working with doesn't think we should try IR or anything else. I'm tempted to get it and give it subq myself, but...that's probably not the best idea. I've got a call in to the oncologist at the hospital and to my regular vet. But I thought I'd see if anyone knows of any especially good vets in my area. Thanks!! MJ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
RE: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?
THANK YOU! I'd probably even be willing to drive to WV...are you near Martinsburg or...? My friend the vet tech who's here came from Charleston! THANKS Tracy Weese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am just outside of DC, in the Eastern Panhandle of WV and have great vets that have always supported me and my FeLV+ catssome have even done extra research just for me. There is a lady I know in DC that might be able to help you, too, I will try to contact her. Tracy - Original Message - From: Marissa Johnson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: 3/20/2007 7:26:56 PM Subject: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area? Hi. Is anyone in the DC area? Does anyone know of any vets who are supportive with FeLV + cats in the DC metro area (or Baltimore area)? The vet I've been working with doesn't think we should try IR or anything else. I'm tempted to get it and give it subq myself, but...that's probably not the best idea. I've got a call in to the oncologist at the hospital and to my regular vet. But I thought I'd see if anyone knows of any especially good vets in my area. Thanks!! MJ - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
To Sally Re: Junior
Sally, I am catching up on posts. How is Junior's right eye doing? :) Wendy --- Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Just a brief update on Junior. His Right eye still looks like it is budging with a definite cataract. He does not appear to have discomfort from it though. He is still getting the Trusopt for Glaucoma and the chloramphenicol antibiotic ointment in both eyes. I also have been giving him lysine 500mg and have added Transfer Factor Plus to his supplements. He gets Pet Tabs plus iron as well . He is eating better and has put on a little bit of weight. He is exploring the house. I am guessing because his vision is not as good as it used to be. The left eye remains dilated and the pupil is misshaped. It does look better to me although. I may be getting used to it that way. He ears are thick and red again. It doesn'r seem to bother him I will keep and eye on them. This has been a very reactive disease. It does not allow you to be proactive. I am hoping while he is better the Transfer Factor will help his immune system. I am still considering removing the right eye, but I want him at his best before surgery. Any idea how long after I use the Transfer Factor I should wait. Daisy is in heat and driving me crazy. I could not get her an appointment until 2/27/07. I just want to thank everyone for their help. I still have not gotten anywhere with my vet for interferon. He decided to do the steriods. I think the shot gave Junior a boost but I still want to give the interferon a shot. I am hoping the Transfer Factor will keep him stable. Thanks, Sally Davis -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
Re: Asia
Catching up on my posts Dianne-yea for Asia!!! I hope March finds her doing well. :) Wendy --- Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
RE: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?
I am just about 5 miles outside from Martinsburg. My vets are Shenandoah Veterinary Hospital, here is their website--they are general vets, but have worked with me (w/o ever making feel like it was useless or a waste of time to let my FeLV+ cats/kittens live. I have a (negative) cat w/lymphoma and they referred me to vets in Gaithersburg, (VCA/VRC). Right now I have 4 FeLV+--two tiny girls who had it as kittens and are probably 5 and 6 and very healthy, although small. I have another rescue from DC who is an adult male and he is very pink and healthy but has other issues (entropia), and a former farm tomcat who was diagnosed when I took him off a farm for a terrible URI--he came in all snotty and weighing 16 lbs--he was diagnoses positive so he never went back to the farm (he was not my cat--to start) and now he weighs in around 22 lbs! http://www.wvvethospital.com/ (my vets--Dr. Niamatali is esp. good to work w/re: the FeLV+ cats) here are the Gaithersburg vets (they have been wonderful with my cancer cat) http://www.vcavra.com/ Tracy - Original Message - From: Marissa Johnson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: 3/20/2007 8:02:40 PM Subject: RE: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area? THANK YOU! I'd probably even be willing to drive to WV...are you near Martinsburg or...? My friend the vet tech who's here came from Charleston! THANKS Tracy Weese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am just outside of DC, in the Eastern Panhandle of WV and have great vets that have always supported me and my FeLV+ catssome have even done extra research just for me. There is a lady I know in DC that might be able to help you, too, I will try to contact her. Tracy - Original Message - From: Marissa Johnson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: 3/20/2007 7:26:56 PM Subject: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area? Hi. Is anyone in the DC area? Does anyone know of any vets who are supportive with FeLV + cats in the DC metro area (or Baltimore area)? The vet I've been working with doesn't think we should try IR or anything else. I'm tempted to get it and give it subq myself, but...that's probably not the best idea. I've got a call in to the oncologist at the hospital and to my regular vet. But I thought I'd see if anyone knows of any especially good vets in my area. Thanks!! MJ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: Any Ideas?
Hi Debbie, Yes, we are using both carriers and cages. Some of the cats who are best friends will be together in the cages. We are moving from Fl to a central NY college town. We are really excited. Now, I need a job!!! We are parking the trailer about i/2 mi away from the house, and ferrying the cats into the house through the garage. I will put Ki's carrier in his room so he can get used to it. He will be with me in the van with the diabetic, FIV, asthma and CRF kitties. That way, i won't worry so much about them. Boy, will I be glad when this is over!! Dede - Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi DeDe, I would like to wish you luck on your move. Don't worry about your new neighbor. People can be a real pain at times. It has always been my belief that people should be able to live however they want as long as they are not hurting anyone. I am glad we live in the country with at least an acre between us and the neighbors. If the cats are traveling in a trailer is it possible to use a feliway difuser? Maybe spray feliway inside the trailer. Whenever we transport any of our babies we talk to them in a calm relaxed voice. Will the kitties have litter boxes on their journey? Wondered if you were using cages or carriers. I would let Ki spend time in the carrier to sleep ahead of time, maybe place a toy in it or something. To get him used to it. I do wish you luck. I did not catch your entire post. Where was it you said you were moving to? -Original Message- From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 20, 2007 11:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Any Ideas? Cats usually do pretty well in large enough covered carriers to include a small litterbox, bed, food and water. There was a good bit of discussion about car travel with cats on the list a while back. Lots of feliway, RR, soft music etc. Have you tried searching the archives? I can't remember all the suggestions, but a lot of them made good sense. Has Ki ever spent any time in confinement? It might help to start feeding him in the carrier he will be traveling in to get him used to feeling safe and comfortable in there. Deep breaths Dede! This must be so stressful for you, but I'm sure you'll do everything in your power to make the transition as smooth and safe as possible. It really sucks that you are already getting grief from your new neighbor! Maybe this person can be reached with lots of cajoling. It's usually the lonely, powerless feeling individuals that make trouble for others. Could it be that she is really concerned about the welfare of the cats? If so, it shouldn't take you long to convince her that they are well taken care of. Whatever her concerns, find a way to soothe her ego and perhaps she'll get whatever she needs to leave you the heck alone. Blessings on the move and the new locale! Nina dede hicken wrote: We will be making our move on April 21st. I plan to have Ki in the van with me and the others with medical issues. He will be in a carrier by himself. Any ideas on how I can minimize the stress? He will be a yr old in April. Has had no problems, and is still a slight +. I have really gotten attached to this little guy. We will travel 600 mi the first day, and 500 the next. I will spend the night in the van. (THAT outta be fun!) The rest of the cats will be in a 36' travel trailer. Just pray for us, guys. I want all of 'em there in one piece, and healthy. AND i want to get them into the house without my idiot neighbor seeing us. (she has already contacted the codes guy, and said she thinks we are moving tons of cats in...na, just 40! I have gotten hold of the law, and there isn't really much they can do. My guys do NOT run the neighborhood, and they are all vetted. Geez, i wish people would mind their own business! Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Mama Kitty Update
We are back from the vet's office. I am very glad we went. Last year, when I first took Mama Kitty in and found out that she was FeVL+, she weighed about 7lbs. She was so anemic that they didn't want to take her blood. She had no fever and so they thought this was a very grave situation because her body wasn't even fighting and they recommended that we say goodbye. After steroids, antibiotics, vitamin B12 and Acemannan, she was like a new kitty...even playing with her toys and chasing the laser. Mama Kitty has had a bit of a crash today, however. She didn't even protest when I put her in the pet taxi - so I know she did not feel well. She had a temperature of 104. Weighed 9lbs. She was dehydrated. They did a full blood panel on her - she is very anemic. When they picked her up to weigh her, she 'leaked' some very concentrated urine and so they aspirated her bladder and did a urinalysis too. Her liver enzymes are slighly elevated but they didn't seem to think that was serious. They gave her fluids, a Vitamin B12, a Benz-Dex shot, and an antibiotic shot (all in one so she only got stuck once) and then they called the compounding pharmacy and got them to make a transdermal gel of doxycycline and prednison. They ordered the Acemannan while I was there and it should be here in a couple of days. I have some conflicting stats here -- the vet told me that her hematacrit(sp) was about 17 and a half - but this printout I have says HTC is 10.6%. I sure hope this print-out is wrong. I know they ran the test more than once. They also tested again for FeVL+ has she has a faint positive. Her RBC is 2.35LR1 (normal is 5-11)...Hb is 4.6L (normal is 8-15). Her white blood cell counts are moderately low. It isn't what you want to hear but I do think we are far better off than we were when I took her in last summer. The fluids made her feel a little better and she ate a few bites of chicken hearts and liver. The vet recommended that I try to encourage her to eat. He wanted to give her Pet Tinnic but there is just no way that Mama Kitty will tolerate that. I am very glad that my vet is willing to help in any way he can. He's come a long way from recommending that Mama be PTS last summer. She's had a wonderful quality of life since the Acemannan and I am hoping we can help her through this rough spot. She's resting comfortably now and is perkier than when I took her in this afternoon. She's getting love of love. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers. elizabeth and Mama Kitty
Re: Mama Kitty Update
MC, I'm so grateful for my vet. Even if we do live in the middle of nowhere in Alabama, I think it was very insightful for him to order the transdermal antibiotics with prednisone. A little extra expense and trouble but I think it was worth it. Mama Kitty wasn't exactly what I would have called feral - but she lived outside on her own roaming around for a good while before she chose this as her home and she's not at all comfortable with taking medicine. With this transdermal gel, while I'm rubbing her I just massage the medicine into her ear (with one of those finger cots so that I'm not the one absorbing it) - and it is totally stress-free for her. I figured she was a bit chilly with that fever so I warmed up some towels in the dryer and covered her. She seems to like that. She seems a lot more alert since I brought her home - I know those fluids really helped. I would never have guessed that she was so dehydrated because I saw her drinking water. I also got some rescue rememdy for her since we're going to be making weekly trips with the treatment and I'm have some lavender scented oil going in there to help make her calm. According to our best guess, Mama Kitty should be 4 years old this summer. We are totally guessing though. When she decided to live here -- she just wander up, took residence and then had 12 (count them - TWELVE) babies. (that's how she got her name). She was the BEST mommy -- she took excellent care of those babies. I have the little runt of the litter now -- Tori...and they do not get along. Isn't that just like a mother and daughter? :0) Trying to take deep breaths here. I'm going to call the vet tomorrow to see if I can get some clarification on these HCT numbers. 10.6 is scary low. Her gums weren't nearly as pale as they were the first time I brought her in though. I am hanging on to the hope that we have caught this early and that she has time and good nutrition on her side. Oh - one thing I did ask about today was if they did transfusions and if they had success doing that with cats. The vet tech's eyes lit up (I think she is tops) and said that she is an expert with that and that this has saved a lot of lives. She said something I didn't realize -- that with cats - you only get one chance to transfuse before you have to have a perfect match (this is not the case with dogs)...but they have this product they use (can't remember the name but it begins with 'oxy')..and with this product, they don't have to have an exact match and that it does an excellent job of transferring oxygen through the blood, etc. I was very glad to hear this. I don't know if we will ever resort to such measures but it is very comforting to know that they are set up to do it and that they have a high success rate. Sorry - this is such a long book - but the vet tech today told me that at least in this area - one in every seven cats has FeVL+. That seems like a very high number. elizabeth On 3/20/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh, i'm glad you went, too! keeping all the paws in the house crossed that she responds as quickly and as well as she did last year--and, with you, grateful that she's helped educate another group of vets MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Mama Kitty Update
Sounds like you caught this in time, so hopefully Mama Kitty will pull through this rough spot. It's too bad our kitties don't show signs of being sick until they are really sick. It sounds like Mama Kitty is in good hands, i'm sending prayers your way. Cassandra - Original Message - From: elizabeth trent To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:39 PM Subject: Mama Kitty Update We are back from the vet's office. I am very glad we went. Last year, when I first took Mama Kitty in and found out that she was FeVL+, she weighed about 7lbs. She was so anemic that they didn't want to take her blood. She had no fever and so they thought this was a very grave situation because her body wasn't even fighting and they recommended that we say goodbye. After steroids, antibiotics, vitamin B12 and Acemannan, she was like a new kitty...even playing with her toys and chasing the laser. Mama Kitty has had a bit of a crash today, however. She didn't even protest when I put her in the pet taxi - so I know she did not feel well. She had a temperature of 104. Weighed 9lbs. She was dehydrated. They did a full blood panel on her - she is very anemic. When they picked her up to weigh her, she 'leaked' some very concentrated urine and so they aspirated her bladder and did a urinalysis too. Her liver enzymes are slighly elevated but they didn't seem to think that was serious. They gave her fluids, a Vitamin B12, a Benz-Dex shot, and an antibiotic shot (all in one so she only got stuck once) and then they called the compounding pharmacy and got them to make a transdermal gel of doxycycline and prednison. They ordered the Acemannan while I was there and it should be here in a couple of days. I have some conflicting stats here -- the vet told me that her hematacrit(sp) was about 17 and a half - but this printout I have says HTC is 10.6%. I sure hope this print-out is wrong. I know they ran the test more than once. They also tested again for FeVL+ has she has a faint positive. Her RBC is 2.35LR1 (normal is 5-11)...Hb is 4.6L (normal is 8-15). Her white blood cell counts are moderately low. It isn't what you want to hear but I do think we are far better off than we were when I took her in last summer. The fluids made her feel a little better and she ate a few bites of chicken hearts and liver. The vet recommended that I try to encourage her to eat. He wanted to give her Pet Tinnic but there is just no way that Mama Kitty will tolerate that. I am very glad that my vet is willing to help in any way he can. He's come a long way from recommending that Mama be PTS last summer. She's had a wonderful quality of life since the Acemannan and I am hoping we can help her through this rough spot. She's resting comfortably now and is perkier than when I took her in this afternoon. She's getting love of love. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers. elizabeth and Mama Kitty -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM
Re: Mama Kitty Update
Thank you so much, Cassandra. You are right -- it is SO hard to tell when they are sick. I always feel guilty when someone gets sick since I work full time and have eight babies. I try very hard to stay in tune with each one but it is not easy. Mama is a lot more comfortable since the fluids and the meds. When I'm in the room with her - she watches my every move. Much more alert than she was. I've got a heating pad beside her covered in flannel and towels in case she wants it. She's resting her head on it now. I'm going to open up some wild Alaska Salmon for her in a bit...of coursethen ALL the kids will have to have some LOL I'm encouraged that she did eat a few bites this afternoon. I'm going to put on her Vivaldi CD...it's her favorite. elizabeth On 3/20/07, C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like you caught this in time, so hopefully Mama Kitty will pull through this rough spot. It's too bad our kitties don't show signs of being sick until they are really sick. It sounds like Mama Kitty is in good hands, i'm sending prayers your way. Cassandra - Original Message - *From:* elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:39 PM *Subject:* Mama Kitty Update We are back from the vet's office. I am very glad we went. Last year, when I first took Mama Kitty in and found out that she was FeVL+, she weighed about 7lbs. She was so anemic that they didn't want to take her blood. She had no fever and so they thought this was a very grave situation because her body wasn't even fighting and they recommended that we say goodbye. After steroids, antibiotics, vitamin B12 and Acemannan, she was like a new kitty...even playing with her toys and chasing the laser. Mama Kitty has had a bit of a crash today, however. She didn't even protest when I put her in the pet taxi - so I know she did not feel well. She had a temperature of 104. Weighed 9lbs. She was dehydrated. They did a full blood panel on her - she is very anemic. When they picked her up to weigh her, she 'leaked' some very concentrated urine and so they aspirated her bladder and did a urinalysis too. Her liver enzymes are slighly elevated but they didn't seem to think that was serious. They gave her fluids, a Vitamin B12, a Benz-Dex shot, and an antibiotic shot (all in one so she only got stuck once) and then they called the compounding pharmacy and got them to make a transdermal gel of doxycycline and prednison. They ordered the Acemannan while I was there and it should be here in a couple of days. I have some conflicting stats here -- the vet told me that her hematacrit(sp) was about 17 and a half - but this printout I have says HTC is 10.6%. I sure hope this print-out is wrong. I know they ran the test more than once. They also tested again for FeVL+ has she has a faint positive. Her RBC is 2.35LR1 (normal is 5-11)...Hb is 4.6L (normal is 8-15). Her white blood cell counts are moderately low. It isn't what you want to hear but I do think we are far better off than we were when I took her in last summer. The fluids made her feel a little better and she ate a few bites of chicken hearts and liver. The vet recommended that I try to encourage her to eat. He wanted to give her Pet Tinnic but there is just no way that Mama Kitty will tolerate that. I am very glad that my vet is willing to help in any way he can. He's come a long way from recommending that Mama be PTS last summer. She's had a wonderful quality of life since the Acemannan and I am hoping we can help her through this rough spot. She's resting comfortably now and is perkier than when I took her in this afternoon. She's getting love of love. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers. elizabeth and Mama Kitty -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?
MJ- I'm in south(western) central Pa. The wonderful, compassionate, caring vet I use is in Finksburg, Md. A long drive (not anymore, can't drive, have to rely on my rescue buddies...Sigh, another story) from here, but is Finksburg, Md. an option? [ It is closer than WV] If you're interested, please let me know I will get you his address phone #. Looking forward to your reply Patti her gang PS- Sorry, but PRIOR to my MVA, I did have some very wonderful vets in Catonsville, Md. And, with this dern memory problem, I don't even know where all my vet records are anymore:( ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?/Attn: MJ
I forgot [silly me!} to say that my vet also gives Rescue Rates If you want, I'll vouch for you Hugs Best Wishes, Patti her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Mama Kitty Update
Mama Kitty had a few good bites of Salmon a bit ago and she purred for the first time today just now when I petted her. I'm hoping that's a good sign. elizabeth On 3/20/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much, Cassandra. You are right -- it is SO hard to tell when they are sick. I always feel guilty when someone gets sick since I work full time and have eight babies. I try very hard to stay in tune with each one but it is not easy. Mama is a lot more comfortable since the fluids and the meds. When I'm in the room with her - she watches my every move. Much more alert than she was. I've got a heating pad beside her covered in flannel and towels in case she wants it. She's resting her head on it now. I'm going to open up some wild Alaska Salmon for her in a bit...of coursethen ALL the kids will have to have some LOL I'm encouraged that she did eat a few bites this afternoon. I'm going to put on her Vivaldi CD...it's her favorite. elizabeth On 3/20/07, C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like you caught this in time, so hopefully Mama Kitty will pull through this rough spot. It's too bad our kitties don't show signs of being sick until they are really sick. It sounds like Mama Kitty is in good hands, i'm sending prayers your way. Cassandra - Original Message - *From:* elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:39 PM *Subject:* Mama Kitty Update We are back from the vet's office. I am very glad we went. Last year, when I first took Mama Kitty in and found out that she was FeVL+, she weighed about 7lbs. She was so anemic that they didn't want to take her blood. She had no fever and so they thought this was a very grave situation because her body wasn't even fighting and they recommended that we say goodbye. After steroids, antibiotics, vitamin B12 and Acemannan, she was like a new kitty...even playing with her toys and chasing the laser. Mama Kitty has had a bit of a crash today, however. She didn't even protest when I put her in the pet taxi - so I know she did not feel well. She had a temperature of 104. Weighed 9lbs. She was dehydrated. They did a full blood panel on her - she is very anemic. When they picked her up to weigh her, she 'leaked' some very concentrated urine and so they aspirated her bladder and did a urinalysis too. Her liver enzymes are slighly elevated but they didn't seem to think that was serious. They gave her fluids, a Vitamin B12, a Benz-Dex shot, and an antibiotic shot (all in one so she only got stuck once) and then they called the compounding pharmacy and got them to make a transdermal gel of doxycycline and prednison. They ordered the Acemannan while I was there and it should be here in a couple of days. I have some conflicting stats here -- the vet told me that her hematacrit(sp) was about 17 and a half - but this printout I have says HTC is 10.6%. I sure hope this print-out is wrong. I know they ran the test more than once. They also tested again for FeVL+ has she has a faint positive. Her RBC is 2.35LR1 (normal is 5-11)...Hb is 4.6L (normal is 8-15). Her white blood cell counts are moderately low. It isn't what you want to hear but I do think we are far better off than we were when I took her in last summer. The fluids made her feel a little better and she ate a few bites of chicken hearts and liver. The vet recommended that I try to encourage her to eat. He wanted to give her Pet Tinnic but there is just no way that Mama Kitty will tolerate that. I am very glad that my vet is willing to help in any way he can. He's come a long way from recommending that Mama be PTS last summer. She's had a wonderful quality of life since the Acemannan and I am hoping we can help her through this rough spot. She's resting comfortably now and is perkier than when I took her in this afternoon. She's getting love of love. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers. elizabeth and Mama Kitty -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM
Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?
Hey Marissa, In my opinion, the Epogen should be #1 on the list, and should be affordable. And I would also do the doxy. Both of these should be done at the very least, or the transfusion will have been for naught. I can't say on the IR, but I know we've had at least one member that uses it for fevers I think, but check on that. I mentioned Slinky's sitation to Michelle Lerner and she said that the Epogen also works with non-regenerative anemia. So you might do a little more research on that so you are prepared for the vet tomorrow. Does the vet know why Slinky keeps having these fevers? :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. First, another brief update on Slinky: Last night around 2:30 his temp spiked to 106! We gave him 75 cc's of fluids and that seemed to help. It's been hovering in the 104.3-104.7 range today. Still high, but not as scary as 106. My friend is giving him fluids (both sub-q and oral), keeping him on a cold pack, and taking his temp every hour to get a good log. It seems to start rising in the evening and then spike in the middle of the night. Our vet appointment is tomorrow at 5:40. The challenge I'm trying to sort out right now is what the next steps should be. Based on my own research and all the info you guys have been so awesome to provide, it seems like there's about 3 options: Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to treat possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to stimulate his immune system. The doctor had said she'd consider Epogen if there was some regeneration after the transfusion. She was going to ask around about the IR, and she said it wouldn't be wrong to switch to Doxy. He's out of Baytril now, so I'd like to try the Doxy. The thing is...all of these treatments are going to be expensive. IR isn't too bad...and I could even take him to a cheaper vet to get it administered (after the first dose to make sure he doesn't have a big reaction). But I don't know what Doxy and Epogen will cost. And I'm not sure how much my Dad is willing to pay at this point. I'm not sure where to draw the line on trying treatments, spending money, putting him through all these things, etc. He's been very lethargic and while he seems a LITTLE pinker, he's still very pale. I mean, if he has no quality of life then I don't want to continue to torture him. But at the same time, would the drugs give him back his quality of life? Maybe? I don't know? He's still eating (though not drinking as much but will take water via syringe), so does that mean he wants to fight? Do I do all 3 drugs and see what happens? Or pick one or two? If I pick one or two, how do I decide? Or do I do them one at a time and then which do I start with? These are all the things going through my mind right now. I've got a call in to the doctor to talk to her about some of this prior to our appointment (esp. since I'd need to order IR if we're going to do it). I also have to call dad and see what he thinks. But I just don't know how to make these decisions! I feel so ill-equipped for this! All I know is that he's depending on me and I'm responsible for his care...and I have NO clue what to do!!! Any thoughts, suggestions, or advice on how to move forward would be awesome! Thanks everyone for being such an incredible support network!! GLOW to all your furkids. MJ - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: To Sally Re: Junior
I am sorry to hear this about Junior, but cats can do fine with blindness. Not as well as before, but they adapt. You are so wonderful to stick with your kitties through all this. :) Wendy --- Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI wendy I think Junior is Blind or close to it in both eyes. He still have the Glaucoma in the right eye. He has nerve damage to that eye and is already blind. The vet is concerned about pain in the eye. My Fluffy who received a scratch in his eye let me know he was in pain from the injury. He was treated for a month. Ultimately he told me it hurt. He would sit atop my computer and cry for no reason. I knew why. I took him back in and had his eye removed. No more pain. Junior has given no indication the eye bothers him. It may be that he already has nerve damage and doen't feel it. I have reordered the transfer factor plus for him. Computer is acting up I have to cut this short. Sally On 3/20/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sally, I am catching up on posts. How is Junior's right eye doing? :) Wendy --- Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Just a brief update on Junior. His Right eye still looks like it is budging with a definite cataract. He does not appear to have discomfort from it though. He is still getting the Trusopt for Glaucoma and the chloramphenicol antibiotic ointment in both eyes. I also have been giving him lysine 500mg and have added Transfer Factor Plus to his supplements. He gets Pet Tabs plus iron as well . He is eating better and has put on a little bit of weight. He is exploring the house. I am guessing because his vision is not as good as it used to be. The left eye remains dilated and the pupil is misshaped. It does look better to me although. I may be getting used to it that way. He ears are thick and red again. It doesn'r seem to bother him I will keep and eye on them. This has been a very reactive disease. It does not allow you to be proactive. I am hoping while he is better the Transfer Factor will help his immune system. I am still considering removing the right eye, but I want him at his best before surgery. Any idea how long after I use the Transfer Factor I should wait. Daisy is in heat and driving me crazy. I could not get her an appointment until 2/27/07. I just want to thank everyone for their help. I still have not gotten anywhere with my vet for interferon. He decided to do the steriods. I think the shot gave Junior a boost but I still want to give the interferon a shot. I am hoping the Transfer Factor will keep him stable. Thanks, Sally Davis -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclickbusiness=puttyrat%40k6az.com Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: Mama Kitty Update
Elizabeth, I am so glad you took Mama Kitty in to the vet too! Paying close attention to our furbabies can be the difference between life and death sometimes. Bless you for taking her in so quickly. I am sorry to hear that she is anemic. But since she bounced back last year so well, I don't see any reason why she can't this year. Did you say the Acemannan is for anemia? Aren't you glad the company that manufactures it isn't having the issues they had a few months ago, now?! I will keep her in my prayers. Please keep us posted on her progress. Thinking of you both... :) Wendy Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?
Here is a directory, you can call them and see if any sound like they may be worth checking out. Give them all the details and tell them you want to do whatever you can to help your baby feel better. http://www.metropets.org/YellowPages/Vets_DC.php -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Mama Kitty
Elizabeth, She still may not like the taste, it's the vitamin B that has the overpowering taste. Maybe you can try adding some to tuna juice, I think the dose is a 1/4 teaspoon twice a day. I just put some in Fred's food when I make a batch. He gets fed through the feeding tube so no fuss from him:) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
