[Felvtalk] Brutus Beefcake Please add to the CLS
I didn't get the chance to send this earlier,but sweet Brutus crossed the Bridge last Friday Dec 23,he was lucky to of had a home with our wonderful volunteer Marcia who lost several of the Sids kids that she took home this past year. Many of us had multiple losses in 2011,lets hope for a healthier year for our precious fur kids. Many blessings to all of my friends and support here on the felv group.You are all a blessing to me too :) Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way"___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I agree, but admit, it had me thinking twice. It's heartbreaking that he was fine one day and on death's door the next :( I miss him so! Bless all the sick furry babies... L - Original Message - From: "Lorrie" To: Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I really doubt it was neutering that caused his death. Anemia is one of the complications of FelV. On 01-02, Lynda Wilson wrote: Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia & other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I rescue cats and I've have had many FelV positive cats neutered or spayed. If they are healthy at the time they come thru the surgery just fine regardless of their FelV status. Lorrie On 01-02, dppl dppl wrote: I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in >October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time >and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him >neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a >positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system >problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding >out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any >input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give >vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed >positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she >said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was >drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I really doubt it was neutering that caused his death. Anemia is one of the complications of FelV. On 01-02, Lynda Wilson wrote: >Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the >time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg >for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia & >other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if >getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've >mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
Tigger was FeLV+ from birth. he WAS tested positive before neutering. the only thing the vet did different was send him home quicker. he lived to be 1 mo short of 5 when he passed nov, 2011. neutering did him no harm...if anything made him even more of a lovebug From: dppl dppl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat Thanks for your replies. Lynda, sorry to hear about your cat. That's what I fear. But I do agree as he gets older and is not neutered, he will become very frustrated. It is bad enough he can't be with other cats. When I first called, I was told they won't do the surgery b/c of fear of spreading disease in their facility. That sounded wrong since arent' they supposed to use sterile procedures and keep animals in surgery separate? So I called again and a different person told me the reason was liability. That doesn't sound right either since they make you sign a form accepting risk. This is a facility that euthanizes feral positive cats upon testing when brought for sterilzation unless theperson bringing the cat in takes it back unsterilzed. I do have a private vet but she has seen only one cat test positive in her practice t so I'm not sure if she would know about risks. From: dppl dppl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 12:25 PM Subject: neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
Thanks for your replies. Lynda, sorry to hear about your cat. That's what I fear. But I do agree as he gets older and is not neutered, he will become very frustrated. It is bad enough he can't be with other cats. When I first called, I was told they won't do the surgery b/c of fear of spreading disease in their facility. That sounded wrong since arent' they supposed to use sterile procedures and keep animals in surgery separate? So I called again and a different person told me the reason was liability. That doesn't sound right either since they make you sign a form accepting risk. This is a facility that euthanizes feral positive cats upon testing when brought for sterilzation unless theperson bringing the cat in takes it back unsterilzed. I do have a private vet but she has seen only one cat test positive in her practice t so I'm not sure if she would know about risks. From: dppl dppl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 12:25 PM Subject: neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
My vet uses very small amount of anesthesia for males, it only takes 10-15 minutes, and they're up and about almost immediately. However, we always give cats to be altered some vitamin shots prior to surgery - Vitamin C, B12. As long as they are asymptomatic, well-fed and rested, no stress - altering males and females is not a problem. Yes, I have had both FeLV and FIV positive cats altered over the years and never had a problem. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat Females can be spayed via laser which is a lot less traumatic. I don't know about males. Personally I would want a private vet who experienced in FeL+ cats.MHO On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could trigger an upper respiratory infection or other problems like any stressful event. The thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source of stress, much bigger in my opinion than the surgery. Keeping an intact male from roaming or mating will result much restlessness and anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats generally have trouble keeping weight on and are less healthy, because so much energy goes into the reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats are much calmer and healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I have never seen a vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost clinic we use does it. Michelle -Original Message- From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
Females can be spayed via laser which is a lot less traumatic. I don't know about males. Personally I would want a private vet who experienced in FeL+ cats.MHO On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could trigger an upper respiratory infection or other problems like any stressful event. The thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source of stress, much bigger in my opinion than the surgery. Keeping an intact male from roaming or mating will result much restlessness and anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats generally have trouble keeping weight on and are less healthy, because so much energy goes into the reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats are much calmer and healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I have never seen a vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost clinic we use does it. Michelle -Original Message- From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
Agreed---not neutering a male cat ultimately is a whole lot more stressful for the cat. The procedure for male cats is a whole lot less intrusive than for female & I would think that while there is always risk in any surgery, a simple neuter would ultimately be better than not neutering. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of lernermiche...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could trigger an upper respiratory infection or other problems like any stressful event. The thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source of stress, much bigger in my opinion than the surgery. Keeping an intact male from roaming or mating will result much restlessness and anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats generally have trouble keeping weight on and are less healthy, because so much energy goes into the reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats are much calmer and healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I have never seen a vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost clinic we use does it. Michelle -Original Message- From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
One of our rescues tested positive at the time he was neutered. The vet went ahead and did the surgery. That was about a year ago. He was adopted in September and was fine at that time - and still is as of the last update I received. I'm not saying that neutering couldn't trigger a problem, but in our case, it didn't seem to. Good luck. Cindy - Original Message - From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia & other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia & other complications due to being FeLV positive. I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this. Has anyone else heard of this? - Original Message - From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could trigger an upper respiratory infection or other problems like any stressful event. The thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source of stress, much bigger in my opinion than the surgery. Keeping an intact male from roaming or mating will result much restlessness and anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats generally have trouble keeping weight on and are less healthy, because so much energy goes into the reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats are much calmer and healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I have never seen a vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost clinic we use does it. Michelle -Original Message- From: dppl dppl To: felvtalk Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
