Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
Maribel, I don't have a solution, but I'm sure praying for you and Amy. Sandy W > On 08/05/2020 7:24 PM Maribel Piloto wrote: > > > I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order > it. > > Amy is not eating. I’m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving > her some subq fluids. > > Maribel > > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." > -Mohandas Ghandi > > > On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > > > I don’t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They > > may be able to order it sooner. > > > > However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander > > dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he > > needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - > > slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but > > Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn’t tell > > from his behaviour. > > > > Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to > > you sooner so you don’t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn’t an > > option. > > > > Amani > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of Maribel > > Piloto > > Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol) > > > > Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol. My cat Amy is > > dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already. Her HTC was at 17 > > after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later. I > > ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next > > day delivery they tell me it won’t get to me until Monday. I need it > > quickly. > > > > Maribel > > > > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are > > treated." > > -Mohandas Ghandi > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's Progress
Sherri, I can't find the words to describe how your great news makes me feel. Thankfully, your vet was willing to try and not just write her off. Goodspeed to you and Bogey, Sandy W > On February 12, 2020 at 12:55 PM Sherri Godschalk > wrote: > > > Good afternoon everyone. I was a pretty active person on this board when > my new stray kitten Bogey was diagnosed as FELV+ in 2016. We had a rough > go of it the first six months and you all were very helpful and kind and > I can't thank you enough for that. The information was invaluable. I > have become ill myself since that time so I fell off the planet for a > bit but I wanted to take a moment to let you know about my girl. > > Bogey is doing very well. 8/2016 - 1/2019 she had been taking 1mg of > Winstrol (half of a capsule) and a half of a Prednisilone. (sp) I also > treated her with a series of Doxy (7 days) once every 3 months. These > dosages seem low but anything higher made her liver very sick and she > was only barely 5 pounds initially. > > When I took her for her biannual Chem 17 test 1/2019 ALL of her levels > were completely normal. She has gained about 3.5 pounds and has really > thrived. She went almost 4 months last year without the need of any kind > of treatment. Her numbers dropped a bit last in November, just the low > side of normal and but very low platelets. So she is getting just the > Winstrol 4 times a month. I will know next week at her checkup if that > needs to be increased. My vet says that this is not uncommon in the > winter months...hibernation/longer nights/colder temps. > > So here we are. I am so thankful that we found a vet willing to try to > save her by prescribing these meds for her. She was failing so fast that > I know she would have been gone years ago. Nothing felt as good as > sending her blood test results and a photo of her to our original vet > that said she should be destroyed because there were "plenty of other > healthy cats that need homes". > > Best to all. > > Sherri & Bogey > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] another felv kitten - Brasil
I fully agree with Amani > On November 15, 2019 at 3:27 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > > > Patricia – I speak just for myself, based on my experience with my FeLV > kitten. I personally would not wait. If I ever had the chance to do it all > again, I would have started my kitten on treatment for FeLV well before he > had his crash, months after we learned he was FeLV positive. > > > > This virus is not just sitting quietly. It is doing damage, even if we > can’t see immediately see it. The cat’s system compensates and compensates > and compensates until a tipping point is reached and the cat has a > catastrophic event. This is when we run to the vets, get blood work done > which shows horrible results, and all sorts of heroic efforts (blood > transfusions, experimental treatments, etc.) are then hysterically initiated. > Many many times, it is too late, and no matter what we do, we can’t drag > these tiny little angels back from the brink. > > > > In my cat’s case, even though I was able to drag him back from the abyss, > the virus nonetheless had done a lot of damage to his body. He ended up dying > at a very young 7 years of age. We loved him so much, and we got six more > years with him, but it was nowhere near enough. He died, ultimately, from a > terribly scarred heart. We don’t know for sure, of course, but it is likely > that the virus was able to damage his heart, before we were able to defeat > the virus, much damage had been done to his body. > > > > If it were me, I would start your kitten on > Winstrol/Prednisone/Doxycycline even if there are no symptoms. I would not > wait for the shoe to drop. I would not bet on the virus not causing a problem. > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of > Patricia Oliveira > Sent: November 14, 2019 4:53 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] another felv kitten - Brasil > > > > > Hello! > > > Here I am again with another felv kitten rescued. > > Fortunately, this time it's not a sick kitten. We test all rescued > kittens and this one tested positive for felv. > > I was searching archives but i didn´t find anything for asymptomatic > kittens. Do you have any suggestions? > > > > He is about 5 or 6 months, was spayed some weeks ago, his weight is > increasing, good coat, active and playing. He had a scratching neck injury > but is already much better. > > > > Blood work showed eosinophilia (because of neck inflamed skin maybe?), > everything else normal. > > > > We will test him again in few weeks. Any advice until then? > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > Patrícia > > Santos/SP/Brazil > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] another felv kitten - Brasil
Just a bit of info I found on the fipcaregroup.com site that might b helpful for everyone - the recommendation is for using Moducare and NOT Lysine. Just thought I'd pass this on Sandy W > On November 14, 2019 at 4:52 PM Patricia Oliveira > wrote: > > > Hello! > > Here I am again with another felv kitten rescued. > > Fortunately, this time it's not a sick kitten. We test all rescued > kittens and this one tested positive for felv. > > I was searching archives but i didn´t find anything for asymptomatic > kittens. Do you have any suggestions? > > He is about 5 or 6 months, was spayed some weeks ago, his weight is > increasing, good coat, active and playing. He had a scratching neck injury > but is already much better. > > Blood work showed eosinophilia (because of neck inflamed skin maybe?), > everything else normal. > > We will test him again in few weeks. Any advice until then? > > Thank you very much! > > > Patrícia > Santos/SP/Brazil > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Chablis - seeking advise about giving Pred/Doxy/Winstrol with low WBC
Thank you Amani for giving this information again - if the vet is working with the pet and it's person there really isn't anything to lose trying "Zander's Protocol". Sandy W > On July 26, 2019 at 12:50 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > > > Hi Deborah > > > > Definitely – I have heard from several people who have tried the > combination Doxy/Winstrol/Prednisone and their cats’ blood work improved > quickly, as well as their cats overall. I have heard from others who tried it > but their cat died very quickly (ie – within a day or two of their posting > asking for suggestions). Obviously, it’s impossible to tell, in those cases, > whether trying the meds earlier may have helped or whether the meds were just > completely ineffective. My suggestion is that if there are other things you > are wanting to try, you can probably go ahead and try those other options, in > addition to the Doxy/Winstrol/Prednisone combination, because I don’t think > one thing precludes the other. > > > > There is very little that is effective, other than Zander’s Protocol, > when cats are showing severe anemia and the reduction of other cell lines > (platelets and white cells), so I don’t think that there’s an awful lot to > choose from. > > > > I must tell you though, that I have had very good success using Winstrol > in many other circumstances with my cats. I think cats respond well to > steroids generally, and my vet told me that once upon a time (20-30 years > ago), they used to hand out Winstrol “like candy” for almost any cat ailment > which involved loss of appetite, general malaise, etc. That stopped around > the time of the Ben Johnson Olympic scandal (1988 or something like that) and > then rumours began to be heard by the vets that Winstrol may damage the > liver, so everyone stopped using it. It is a pity, because I find it useful > for many conditions and I don’t think vets have anything at all to replace > what it can do for cats suffering from anemia, leukemia, etc. > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of Deborah > Whorley > Sent: July 26, 2019 11:43 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chablis - seeking advise about giving > Pred/Doxy/Winstrol with low WBC > > > > Amani - have you ever received any feedback from others who have tried > your protocol and what their results were? Repeating labs this morning and > will present your protocol and history to see if she will let us try. > > > > Thanks, > > Deb > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:45 mailto:felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > wrote: > > > > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > mailto:felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > mailto:felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > >1. Re: Chablis - seeking advise about giving Pred/Doxy/Winstrol > > with low WBC (Amani Oakley) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:45:12 + > > From: Amani Oakley > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > " mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chablis - seeking advise about giving > > Pred/Doxy/Winstrol with low WBC > > Message-ID: > > > > > mailto:E0C1DFB06E10174B9D4AE353A62CECE303A5715321@OAKLEYSRV.oakley.local > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hi Deborah > > > > The CBC results are unusual. There is some anemia going on, and > > there is the low white cell count. There is also an elevated monocyte count. > > > > Most people are aware that white cells go up with an infection, but > > they can also go quite low with an infection ? often if there is a focal > > area of inflammation/infection and white cells are moving out of the > > circulatory system to go to the site of infection in the tissues. My worry > > is that there ma be a source of infection some
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
gt; > > > > > > > > > I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology > > > right now. She is working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs > > > to be given time to recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow > > > the good food and medication to start to work. I don’t know how a > > > neurological diagnosis could help you now, and one would expect the > > > neurologist will have a difficult time seeing a true neurological > > > deficit, with all the rest of the stuff happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would also suggest that at some point, it is better for her > > > to be with you at home. If they are not giving her anything like fluids, > > > you might consider taking her home with you. I know with Zander, he > > > reacted most strongly when I was there with him. I could get him to play > > > a little bit and that made him feel better, and of course, lots of > > > cuddles and kisses. > > > > > > > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk > > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of Patricia > > > Oliveira > > > Sent: June 8, 2019 8:52 PM > > > To: Sandra Wachtstetter > > mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net >; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Sandra :) > > > > > > > > > > > > I visited Nori today. The hospital is in another city so I > > > can't go there every day. > > > > > > > > > > > > She is a rosy gingiva, but continues to sleep most of the > > > time and with a low temperature. One of the veterinarians there thinks > > > that temperature is lower because of malnutrition, she has almost no lean > > > mass and no fat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nori will go through the evaluation of a neurologist > > > tomorrow. Some hypotheses raised for this prostration are neurological, > > > including a possible hypoxia before the first transfusion when her > > > hematocrit was really low. > > > > > > > > > > > > Her blood work today is 30% hematocrit, the higher till now! > > > So i think red cells aren´t being destroyed anymore, is it right or is it > > > early to know? > > > > > > > > > > > > Some red cells in Rouleaux. Leukocytes are still high (> > > > 26.000), low platelets for the first time (92.000). > > > > > > > > > > > > Nori had an echocardiogram today too and it is ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrícia > > > > > > > > > > > > Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 11:40, Sandra Wachtstetter > > > mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Patricia, you may already be doing this - but if > > > > not, please take a copy of Amani's conversations for the vet to read - > > > > may help. > > > > > > > > Good luck - don't give up!! > > > > > > > > Sandt W > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On June 7, 2019 at 9:55 PM Patricia Oliveira > > > > > mailto:cinzaeamar...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nori did not want to eat by herself so they are > > > > > syringing food. They started another medication for nausea, although > > > > > she does not vomit, they think that may be why she does not eat. > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
Hello Patricia, you may already be doing this - but if not, please take a copy of Amani's conversations for the vet to read - may help. Good luck - don't give up!! Sandt W > On June 7, 2019 at 9:55 PM Patricia Oliveira wrote: > > Nori did not want to eat by herself so they are syringing food. They > started another medication for nausea, although she does not vomit, they > think that may be why she does not eat. > > Blood work showed changes in neutrophils (bizarre core?), veternary says > it can be from leukemia. > > The result of this transfusion was not as good as the other time :( > > i´ll talk to veterinary tomorrow morning again. > > thank you! > > Patrícia > > > > Em sex, 7 de jun de 2019 às 16:13, Amani Oakley < aoak...@oakleylegal.com > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu: > > > > > > Still sounds more like a transfusion reaction than anything with > > the meds. > > > > > > > > Hang in there. See what the afternoon labs show. > > > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk > mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira > > Sent: June 7, 2019 1:44 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > > > > > Hi, Amani > > > > > > > > Nori is receiving doxy+prenisolone+stanazolol even in the hospital. > > > > > > > > I know it can be a reaction but i thought higher dose of > > prednisolone would prevent hemolysis. > > > > > > > > I also know it's normal for part of the red blood cells to be > > cleared right after the transfusion, but i don´t remember if it was icteric > > plasma on last one. > > > > > > > > I was hopefull she would come back home tomorrow, now i don´t know > > if it will be possible. > > > > > > > > Today she must have am echocardiogram too because x-ray showed an > > enlarged heart. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em sex, 7 de jun de 2019 às 14:18, Amani Oakley > > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > The Stanozolol often has a side-effect of elevating liver > > > enzymes, though I cannot remember if it also increased bilirubin (which > > > would be what would cause the icteric observation of the plasma). > > > However, hang in there. If it is the Stanozolol, my experience is that > > > the liver enzymes drop right back to normal, shortly after it is > > > discontinued, and there is no lasting damage to the liver. For now, what > > > you have described (low temp and slightly lower heart rate) seems more > > > likely to be related to the transfusion itself, rather than anything else > > > going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also possible that with the additional transfusion, > > > there is a higher than normal red cell destruction going on, which would > > > be another explanation for the increased icterus in the blood (which will > > > also show as an increase in bilirubin). Elevated bilirubin can often be > > > caused by a reaction to a blood transfusion. If the high bilirubin is the > > > indirect or the unconjugated portion, it is related to red cell break > > > down. The direct bilirubin (conjugated portion) is related to liver > > > function. The lab results are usually broken down to Total bilirubin and > > > Direct bilirubin. The indirect portion is obtained by subtracting the > > > direct amount from the total amount. > > > > > > > > > > > > I myself went through the pressure of the vets wanting me to > > > discontinue the Stanozolol because of abnormal liver enzymes. My logic > > > was that there was nothing else. If I discontinued the Stanozolol, my cat > > > would die, period. I continued and found that in the end, the liver > > > enzymes normalized on their own, even though I had Zander on almost > > > continuous Stanozolol for close to two years. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that you know that you are only temporarily helping > > > Nori with blood transfusions, and the virus is still attacking cells, > > > etc. In my opinion – and mine alone – my experience and research leads me > > > to the conclusion that the combination of > > > Doxycycline/Prednisone/Stanozolol worked to not only boost the red cell > > > production, but I believe that the Doxycyline assisted in keeping the > > > viruses from properly reproducing. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, anticipate that when the vet gets back the second > > > set of blood work, she may w
Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats
Lorrie, my heart goes out to you - please know you are in my thoughts nd prayers. Sandy W > On April 19, 2019 at 1:48 PM Lorrie wrote: > > > On 04-18, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > > Hello everyone,I have a 12 year old former feral who was diagnosed > > with hyper thyroid yesterday. Herm level is 4.7 and she is on > > meds, 2.5mg of Felimazole morning and evening. I had one cat about > > 10 years ago that we did radioactive iodine. the isolation was > > very hard on her and she went downhill after she got home, > > bleeding from nose, etc. don't really want to repeat that. Homey > > is especially bonded with me and has been my caregiver since my > > heart surgery. she has alerted me to one time of gasping for air > > in the night and 3 instances of low sugar. she sleeps plastered to > > my chest and when she is on my lap, holds on to me . I am very > > attached to her and do not want to loose her so am hoping meds > > work. my question is: does anyone know of alternative or better > > ways of treating this? > > I really feel for you as one of my rescued cats has Hyperthyroid. > All my cats are rescues, and when I rescue a full grown cat I have > no idea of it's age. This little girl is at least 14 and most likely > much older according to vet. I've had her ten years, and she is down > to 5 pounds at her last vet visit a month ago. She is taking 2.5mg of > Felimazole morning and evening just like your cat. but she has not > gained an ounce in spite of eating well. Now she is refusing food and > vomiting (just cloudy liquid) and I'm sure she is going to die soon. > I know she is too old for radioactive iodine and my vet said there > was no other treatment. > > My thoughts go out to you. I am 86 and not in good health. I lost > my husband of 43 years just 3 months ago, as well as losing two other > old cats. It is was heart breaking to lose all of them. > > I send you a hug, > > Lorrie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats
http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/outreach/Pet-Health-Topics/categories/diseases/hyperthyroidism-in-cats- 113k- Cached http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:lzWQuzLKAUkJ:http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/outreach/Pet-Health-Topics/categories/diseases/hyperthyroidism-in-cats - Similar pages The average age of cats with hyperthyroidism is 13 years of age; only about 5 % ofhyperthyroid cats are younger than 10 years of age. There are 2 thyroid ... This is just one of may reliable sites to go for info - but looks like they all pretty much say the same thing. I'd stick with the meds. You have one special kitty cat. Sandy W > On April 18, 2019 at 3:12 PM "dlg...@windstream.net" > wrote: > > Hello everyoone, > I have a 12 year old former feral who was diagnosed with hyper thyroid > yesterday. Herm level is 4.7 and she is one meds, 2.5mg of Felimazole > morning and evening. I had one cat about 10 years ago that we did > radioactive iodine. the isolation was very hard on her and she went downhill > after she got home, bleeeding from nose, etc. don't really want to repeat > that. Homey is especially bonded with me and has been my caregiver since my > heart surgery. she has alerted me to one time of gasping for air in the > night and 3 instances of low sugar. she sleeps plastered to my chest and > when she is on my lap, holds on to me . I am very attached to her and do not > want to loose her so am hoping meds work. > my question is: does anyone know of alternative or better ways of > treating this? > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Baby's intro
Lorraine - I am part of the group and have the following into - from Amani - so you can see a bit more From: Amani Oakley Sent: June-10-18 3:22 PM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6 What a very sad story about your blind cat. I understand your heart break. I too have placed cats into what I thought were excellent homes, only to have a sad, and an unnecessarily tragic outcome. I have probably adopted out close to 400 cats in the time my husband and I have been rescuing cats. Thankfully, most of the time, people are just really happy to return a cat to me if things aren’t working out, but I know only too well that once out of my hands, you’re at the mercy of what someone else thinks is the right thing to do. Your email to FeLV talk goes out to everyone on the list at the same time. I will often answer regarding FeLV because I was lucky enough to have stumbled on a medication protocol (which I was calling Zander’s protocol) which treated my Zander’s FeLV when EVERYTHING else had failed. I used to be a medical lab technologist, so lab results are key to me. When trying Zander on the various medications that were suggested as assisting with FeLV, I got weekly bloodwork done and would study the results to see which direction his bloodwork was going. Nothing worked at all (Interferon, LTCI, combo of prednisone/Doxy) and I kept him alive with several blood transfusions. When that was no longer an option because he had had a reaction during his last blood transfusion and the next one would kill him, I rummaged around in my drawer of cat meds, and had nothing else at all to try but figured what the hell and tried him on Winstrol (Stanazalol) which I thought might at least keep him eating and maybe keep him alive a bit longer. To my complete and utter amazement and disbelief, after just a few days on Winstrol, his ivory white gums and inner ears (signs of his profound anemia) started showing a slight pinkish blush. The next blood work (a few days later) showed the first uptick in hematocrit that I had seen with him since the FeLV crisis had begun, which was not brought on by the artificial increase in red cells from his transfusions. I kept him on the combination of prednisone/doxycycline/winstrol for more than a year, while his hematocrit climbed from 10 and back into the normal reference range of 25 to 45. Every time I tried to stop or reduce the dosage of winstrol, his blood results would show an immediate drop in red cells and hematocrit, so even though his liver enzymes went way up (the reason Winstrol had fallen out of favour with the vets), I really had no choice but to continue since the vets had nothing else to offer me and the alternative was he was going to die from the FeLV infection. He recovered fully, looked marvelous and amazing, ate well, and his liver enzymes went right back to normal once I discontinued the Winstrol – something like 10 months later. No one seemed to know this combination, and the vets I spoke with seemed wary or suspicious that this combination would indeed be helpful in FeLV (except mine – who had of course seen the weekly blood work showing a slow and steady rise in red cells and ultimately, in white cells and platelets, until his entire hematological profile looked perfectly fine). At the time, I was understandably extremely excited by the effects of the Winstrol and I believe that the Winstrol was able to cause the production of new bone marrow cells (something it has been found to do in osteoporotic women) and thus, new cells which could produce the red cells. However, I now also think that the combination worked because the Doxycycline was able to retard or slow down the viral replication, to allow the red cell production to move ahead with less risk that the FeLV would attack the new bone marrow cells. I have been told that the prednisone helps protect the liver from the Winstrol, but I also think that it’s anti-inflammatory properties helped in areas like intestinal inflammation (Zander had lots of trouble eating and keeping the food down). So, I think maybe I by accident stumbled on this combination but was able to understand what might be happening and why it might have worked, because of my scientific/medical training. Zander lived another 7 years and died from a heart condition which I wondered at the time if it was related, and it might have been, but it probably was that the virus had done a fair amount of damage to certain organs before I was able to get it under control. We loved Zander to a crazy extent, and I wanted him with us for longer than 7 years but given that the vets were telling us there was no hope when he was only six months old, I guess I must just be grateful that we had him for so much longer than that. Amani > On February 21, 2019 at 9:40 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > > > Hi Lorraine > >
Re: [Felvtalk] Batman Felv Positive
Happy New Year 2019!! Nothing has been posted since - well looks like October sometime. Guessing all is okay - Be safe and hope 2019 gets off to a great start! Sandy W > On October 18, 2018 at 12:54 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > > > I actually had a few similar experiences. Once it involved two very young > kittens. Once it involved a cat about a year old. In my opinion, the two > different experiences had two different causative agents, and at the risk of > boring you silly, I will try to explain both. Neither, by the way, was well > understood by the vets, leading me again to the inevitable conclusion that > cat health is very poorly studied (no where near dog health) and because cats > respond different to disease and medication, (whereas dogs respond very much > like people), then science and medicine is way behind in understanding cats. > > > > With respect to the kittens, it was my view that they actually had (and > one of them still has) Lyme disease. The area I picked them up was one very > well-known to be endemic for Lyme disease. They had an alternating lameness – > once picking up one paw which seemed very swollen and sore – and then next > day, picking up the other paw. I looked this up and saw that this alternating > lameness was described in dogs with Lyme disease. However, my vet believed > that it might be calici virus. I didn’t agree with her, but let her treat for > calici virus (including vaccination). The acute phase of the response seemed > to be limited in time, and both kittens seemed to get better on their own. > However, their brother lapsed into a coma – was literally unresponsive for > hours while I sat up with him. I didn’t know what to do, and my view was that > either there was inflammation of the meninges (sac surrounding the brain) or > an inflammation of the brain itself, causing increased intracranial pressure > which might also result in loss of consciousness. I superdosed him with > transdermal prednisone, took him to bed with me and kept checking him for > hours. Then, suddenly, at about 4 in the morning, he just bounded awake, and > began playing and galavanting all over the bed. Meanwhile, though, one of his > two sisters has never been the same. She lost HUGE amounts of weight, and > even now, as a 2+ year old cat, she weighs less than many kittens and she is > all bones. I have been treating her with a combination of Winstrol, > Doxycycline, high prednisone doses and magnesium (her muscles don’t work > right – like they are constantly spastic, and she walks in a funny tip toe > way, and has poor coordination jumping on things and going up stairs, etc.) > Anyhow, she is starting to get better, starting to put on weight and starting > to walk better. I am convinced this was and is Lyme disease, though > scientists and vets say that cats don’t get it. I don’t know how they know > this, because they DO NOT TEST cats for it. > > > > Story number two involves a kitten I got who was described as a “wobbly” > kitten and it was assumed that his mom had suffered a viral infection when he > was in utero, which can result in this type of neurological damage (and it > can be much worse). However, when he was very little, he suddenly and without > warning, decided to squat and pee right in the middle of our bed, and he had > never done this before. He was looking straight at me and I felt that he > didn’t know why he was doing what he was doing. Not too long after (a few > weeks or maybe a month), he started showing some very alarming neurological > symptoms, including a loss of muscle control in the back end. His rectum > seemed not tight but loose and stool just “fell out” rather than being pushed > out. His back legs in particular also became very very weak, and he developed > a “tripod stance” – both back legs together – his back end would sway and he > would fall down. My knowledge with humans is that this occurs when there is > damage to nerves in the spinal column, or pressure on them from a herniated > disc, or something like that (cauda equina syndrome). I took him to the > emergency clinic, but I had already started him on Winstrol and Prednisolone, > assuming that the Prednisolone would help with reduction of swelling in the > spinal canal and thus take pressure off the affected nerves, and the Winstrol > might help in healing whatever injury there was in the spinal column. By the > time they could do an MRI on him, he was regaining all function and his gait > had become normal. The MRI was inconclusive, with the vets thinking that they > could possible see the remains of a lesion, right in the area where one would > expect it to be to affect rectal control and muscle function of the back > legs, but the lesion appeared to be healed over so they couldn’t tell if that > was the cause or if the lesion was old or new. > > > > It sounds to me like the prednisone you used
Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Bella 3/4/09-7/9/09
I'd be interested in getting this advice as well! I have a 7month old FeLV positive kitten. No symptoms or illness. And if she doesn't find a loving home by August (not likely - given the deluge of cats out there!), I'm going to integrate her with my non FeLV cat (7 years old and healthy). What can I do to keep them both as healthy and as safe as possible? Also, the 7 year old has never had a FeLV vaccination before. The vet recommends it... but I've heard there are also issues with the vaccine... help? Feel free to email me directly - gopila...@gmail.com with suggestions/advice! Sandra On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Orth, Sarai wrote: > I subscribed to this mailing just a few weeks ago when I found out that > my 2 kittens were FeLV positive. I committed to caring for them though > the first vet (who since I have since stopped going to) told me to have > them put down and "spare myself the agony and financial burden". > > > > My girl kitty, Bella, 4 months old had a pretty bad herpes infection > with a fever of 105 for over two weeks. She stopped eating her hard food > and I so I was spoon feeding her baby food to try to get her to gain > weight. She was also on antibiotics- She had good days and bad days, it > was quite the roller coaster for those weeks. She seemed to be doing > better this past week- interacting more, eating lots, etc. Then all of > a sudden, in the middle of the night on Wednesday, her neurological > system went haywire. She began biting herself uncontrollably, running > into walls, stumbling around and she lost most of her vision. Within 6 > hours of the symptoms beginning, we were forced to love enough to let > her go. Our new vet was wonderful and helped us through the whole > process with kindness. He thinks that the leukemia went systemic and > settled in her brain. It feels like it happened so fast. While we are > still grieving our loss, we are also very worried about our other > kitten. While he is FeLV positive, he has not had any clinical issues. > He seems perfectly normal, loving and active. > > > > I am wondering if there are others out there with a "not sick" FELV > kitty and if so, what kind of measures are you taking to help increase > their chance of making it through this? Our vet said that if he makes it > to 6 months old, we may be able to re-test to see if he has suppressed > the virus. He is just over 4 months old now and has lost his sister, > which has been very stressful on him. He is an indoors only kitty. We > also have him taking Lysine (to keep herpes symptoms at bay) and > Pet-tinic (vitamins). > > > > ~Sarai > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV
Thanks for all the info. It's been really helpful. I'll keep stella at my friends for a while longer til i've got a good chunk of time to spend at home while I introduce stella and penny to each other. s. On 2009-07-04, at 11:16 AM, "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: I agree, the older cats don't seem as susceptible. Gloria On Jul 4, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Sharyl wrote: Sandra, 1st thank you for taking in Penny. Mixing is such a personal decision. Like other I mix my positives and negatives. My negatives all had their FeLV vaccine and booster one month later before I mixed them. My positives were kittens when I rescued them and never threw off the virus. They were born with it. Older cats do not seem to be as susceptible to the virus or at least seem to have a better chance to throw off the virus. My oldest positives are going on 2 yrs old and the youngest is almost 1. You would never know Rocket was a positive kitty. Sissy, her sister, has always have swollen lymph glands. Mattie, the baby, is blind and a ball of energy. They play and eat with my negative kitties. So far so good. Hugs to Penny and Stella Sharyl --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Sandra Brunner wrote: From: Sandra Brunner Subject: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 9:37 PM Hi there, I'm new to this... looking for some advice. I took in a stray, she's about 7 months old. She tested positive for FeLV. I didn't know she had FeLV. I took her in as she was hanging out on the patio of a restaurant, near a busy street. The owners of the restaurant were going to take her to the humane society. I already have a cat, who is not FeLV positive. The stray is with me while I try to re-home her, and my cat is with a friend. In an ideal world, I would like to keep the stray (Penny) and have her and my cat. Is this possible? Should I have Penny re-tested with a DNA test to make sure she does have FeLV? My cat (Stella) is an indoor cat, 7 years old. and has had all of her shots every year except for the last year. Is there any way they can live together with Penny being FeLV positive? any insight or links to relevant websites/postings would be greatly appreciated! thank you. s. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV
Hi there, I'm new to this... looking for some advice. I took in a stray, she's about 7 months old. She tested positive for FeLV. I didn't know she had FeLV. I took her in as she was hanging out on the patio of a restaurant, near a busy street. The owners of the restaurant were going to take her to the humane society. I already have a cat, who is not FeLV positive. The stray is with me while I try to re-home her, and my cat is with a friend. In an ideal world, I would like to keep the stray (Penny) and have her and my cat. Is this possible? Should I have Penny re-tested with a DNA test to make sure she does have FeLV? My cat (Stella) is an indoor cat, 7 years old. and has had all of her shots every year except for the last year. Is there any way they can live together with Penny being FeLV positive? any insight or links to relevant websites/postings would be greatly appreciated! thank you. s. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Allie has said good-bye
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Re: Bailey
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Fw: MALE / FEMALE ATMS
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Re: prayers for Salem
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Re: Achilles,Reva and Nike Please add them to the CLS
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Re: Tabbs
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Re: Subject: Re: Please add Tabbs to CLS
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Re: Tabbs Spain Belinda CLS picture to follow
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Re: Moon Pie
My vet could help you, on the interferon omega, I sure she would not mind you contacting her regarding this matter, if you are willing to fly. Spain airports Alicante Valencia. e mail me for her address tele phone number or e mail address. just treated my boy Tabbs with the Omega Interferon, very helpful, Sandra Tabbs Past. [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1182 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: Tabbs Spain Belinda CLS picture to follow
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Re: Subject: Re: Please add Tabbs to CLS
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Re: Tabbs Spain Belinda CLS picture to follow
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Re: Tabbs Spain Belinda CLS picture to follow
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Re: Please add Tabbs to CLS list Thank you Belinda
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Re: Please add Tabbs to CLS list Thank you Belinda
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Please add Tabbs to CLS list Thank you Belinda
Tabbs Spain, crossed over, 8th AprilI am heart broken, but after Tabbs Long and brave fight, I had my Lady vetcome out to the House to put My brave boy to sleep, He had so many trips tothe vets in the last month that I did not have the heart for that last one,when I knew that he would know where he was going. I have known we werelosing the fight for the last 3 weeks, He had lost interest in his food andalso had lost a lot of weight, but was still enjoying life up until the last2 days. he did not wish too be with me any longer sleeping or for sittingon my lap. and on the Friday I had called the vet out, I picked him up forhis last cuddle, but he wanted to be put down, and when I put him on thefloor,for him to go back to his hiding spot in the video unit, he rush outside into the garden, and did a wee, but then instead of going to one of hisold sleeping spot, he disappeared down the into the Spanish under growthwhere I could not follow him, due to us living on a mountain type range. Allday I called him and all night, up to 2.30 in the morning, I was stillexpecting him to turn up on the end of my bed, but I was scared that he wasnot coming back, and had gone off to die.Back up again 4 , and 6, still no Tabbs, by 8 o clock I knew he was notgoing to turn up,So on with my walking shoes and a lot of protection clothing, plus mywalking stick, and some rope, and down the mountain I went calling andpraying, but knowing unless I could see him, I would not be able to recoverhim, due to not responding to me on other occasions, when he wanted to bealone.one hour later and a little bit worst for wear due to the heavy undergrowth, I hear 3 meow's from him, but for the next 20 mins nothing, but atleast I knew he was down there some where, and a lot further down than Iwould have though he would have gone. I shouted to my husband to get the carand drive down to the bottom of the valley to see if could hear him or seehim , but no luck there. But my young cat Tiger who follows me every where,had followed me down through the thick under growth and was further down,than me, but he had found Tabbs, who was behind a big stone rock, it took me about 10mins to get to him, But he would not come to me, I now had the problem ofclimbing back up with him in my arms, which to begin with was OK, as he washappy to have a cuddle, after 10 mins with one arm round him and the othertrying to grab plant life to pull myself back up the hill, I was havingtrouble hanging onto him,But 20 mins later, and nearly having a heart attack we got to the top. Oh Iwas so happy, to have found him, I had thoughts that I would have alwayshave been looking down that valley and wondering where he was, and neverknowing how long he was there before he past on.My FELV boy Chang who pass on last summer, did this to us, and also My FELVBoy Rocky , he went missing for 3 days, but came back to die, they whereboth, too wild too do any treatment with. But Tabbs who was also a stray wassomeone's pet at some time,Sadly Tabbs did not wish me to hold him or give him cuddles, and went backinto his hiding place of the Video, so the phone call I had made the daybefore had to be repeated, No interest in food or water, and he lookedreally fed up. I spent a couple of hours sitting next to him and giving himmy contact and talking to him, while we waited for the vet to come. Eventhen he tried to do a little roll for me to tickle his tummy. My best Boy.The end was easy and very peace full for him, thanks to my vet. If we could have got the epogen, then may be he would have had a betterchance, for any one interested in the care Tabbs had or the history onfeline interferon and interferon A which he was treated with, then when I amfeeling better, I will give any information that may or may not be ofinterest.Also if we had started the Interferon early may be things would have had abetter ending.I do believe that the Interferon did give Tabbs a couple of extra months. hewas ill at Xmas time, so who knows.but Thanks to you all and this web site I do feel that I was able to do morefor Tabbs, than I would have with out it. Thank you.please Belinda would you add Tabbs to CLS list, do I need to send you aphoto of Tabbs. I would like too.no rush, good luck with your operation, praying all goes well and aspeedily recoveryDare I ask how is Bailey doing, I have been too upset to view the e mailsover the last week so forgive me on not being up to date. [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1180 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Fw: Tabbs in Spain Interferon Omega
photo to follow From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: Tabbs in Spain Interferon Omega Tabbs Spanish Siamese tabby point FELV positive and Sandra Took him in when he was a full male adult, age unknown, between 6 and 10. We Fully Vacc and neutered without testing , sharing home with 5 other cats 4 who have been taken in by me, lost 2 last year due to FELV, not tame enough to treat. Also took a kitten in who tested FELV, when 6 months old, but last test Nov 2005 was neg ,all 3 other cats testing Neg. Blood tests to date, Jan `13 2006 HCT 17.5 old vets Jan 20 2006 HCT 17.2 new vets urea 40 Jan 28 2006 HCT 20.9 Feb 2006 HCT 10.00 Feb 25 2006 HCT 11.2 March 9 2006 HCT 14.3 Kidneys OK but liver which has been fine is not so good. March 28 2006 HCT 11.1 a little more Regenerative 3: if you wish me to e mail you a copy of the complete blood test I am happy to do so. as I am not that good at reading them, also they are in Spanish some times. 30 Jan 2006 analysis Tabbs has no parasite (haemobartonella) in the blood. vet recommends to repeat the PROTEC.to make the immune system stronger, one week after first injection. done (from my Vet Victoria ) Hello Sandra: I am so happy to tell you that Tabbs hct is 14.3 %!!! 9.3.2006 Last time was 11 % and a non regenerative anaemia. Now is a little regenerative. So, now I suggest to follow in this way: -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same as before, started 27.02-Dacortin 5mg: injection then1 tablet /that evening followed by , 2 tablets per day for 3 days then 1 tablet mornings for 5 days. then one every other day, until further notice. (could be 10 days when my vet will do another blood test. -Interferon omega: ( started Virbagen Omega 4th March 1/2 bottle every other day. Tabbs HCT reading was 10% at this point. then 1/4 bottle every day(02.5 UI) ( 5 bottles) 10mu 500 euros He had been 17.5% dropping to 17.2, then after the iron and vitamins plus restarting the stomorgy Tabbs went up to 21% (great) at this point I did not feel the need for the Interferon omega, (wrong) But on retesting again he had drop to 10 HCT so that is when we started the Interferon. . -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same as before, this was 1/2 tablet per day of fortekor 5 1/2 tablet stomorgyl per day 10kgs Tabb has been on stomorgyl for about 6 weeks. may be longer. Vitamins drops and iron drops each day for the last 6 weeks( mixed in warm milk) L-lysine just start, about 5 days now 500mg morning and evening( mixed in food) Here is Tabbs History to date, Xmas 2005 pneumonia , hiding in the airing cupboard for about 5 days, then moved to spending all day in the bathroom sink. treated the pneumonia with antibiotics , I can not remember what type, and also the fact that he tested FELV pos in Nov 2005 was probably the reason why he had picked up the pneumonia. At that time my old vet was only treating him with stomorgly for his bad mouth and teeth, alongside giving him vitamin B injections. after finding the groups web site, (so Helpful) I printed out a lot of the information that I had collected, and took it down to my vet , But in fairness to him , my lack of Spanish and his lack of English proved to be a lack of interest in the information I had collected followed by comments of having tried the following with out success, he was uninterested . At that time the paper I shown him was headed ImmunoRegulin --- More reading, and discontent, I change vets and found one that was recommended, and who is open to suggestions, and also had treated 3 of her own clients cats with the feline interferon. So to date, Tabbs was started on the omega interferon when his blood count was reading 10%, where my new Vet remarked that he should have die, and that she was unsure to weather we would have any success in treating Tabbs at this late stage.Sadly we could have started his treatment of the interferon earlier, but due to his readings on the 28 Jan, we thought the treatment was working. Two other points that are the beginning of Tabbs History, are that first he has had bad teeth for the last 2 years, and having waited for his kidney readings to come down enough for us to give his teeth a clean and remove the bad teeth, we wasted 18 months before being able to do this. But since he has been on the stomorgyl for over 2 months now, it appears that there is no problem with his Kidneys. my old vet tested in house his self, and my new vet sends the blood away to a very good place that is 99% correct. Tabbs has had a X ray at his old vets, and I was told that there did not seem to be any tumours showing, But he has got 2 small lumps in his mouth which are beginning to get too big, and they are giving him a great deal of trouble, so much so that he as stop
Tabbs Spain Belinda CLS picture to follow
Tabbs Spain, crossed over, 8th AprilI am heart broken, but after Tabbs Long and brave fight, I had my Lady vetcome out to the House to put My brave boy to sleep, He had so many trips tothe vets in the last month that I did not have the heart for that last one,when I knew that he would know where he was going. I have known we werelosing the fight for the last 3 weeks, He had lost interest in his food andalso had lost a lot of weight, but was still enjoying life up until the last2 days. he did not wish too be with me any longer sleeping or for sittingon my lap. and on the Friday I had called the vet out, I picked him up forhis last cuddle, but he wanted to be put down, and when I put him on thefloor,for him to go back to his hiding spot in the video unit, he rush outside into the garden, and did a wee, but then instead of going to one of hisold sleeping spot, he disappeared down the into the Spanish under growthwhere I could not follow him, due to us living on a mountain type range. Allday I called him and all night, up to 2.30 in the morning, I was stillexpecting him to turn up on the end of my bed, but I was scared that he wasnot coming back, and had gone off to die.Back up again 4 , and 6, still no Tabbs, by 8 o clock I knew he was notgoing to turn up,So on with my walking shoes and a lot of protection clothing, plus mywalking stick, and some rope, and down the mountain I went calling andpraying, but knowing unless I could see him, I would not be able to recoverhim, due to not responding to me on other occasions, when he wanted to bealone.one hour later and a little bit worst for wear due to the heavy undergrowth, I hear 3 meow's from him, but for the next 20 mins nothing, but atleast I knew he was down there some where, and a lot further down than Iwould have though he would have gone. I shouted to my husband to get the carand drive down to the bottom of the valley to see if could hear him or seehim , but no luck there. But my young cat Tiger who follows me every where,had followed me down through the thick under growth and was further down,than me, but he had found Tabbs, who was behind a big stone rock, it took me about 10mins to get to him, But he would not come to me, I now had the problem ofclimbing back up with him in my arms, which to begin with was OK, as he washappy to have a cuddle, after 10 mins with one arm round him and the othertrying to grab plant life to pull myself back up the hill, I was havingtrouble hanging onto him,But 20 mins later, and nearly having a heart attack we got to the top. Oh Iwas so happy, to have found him, I had thoughts that I would have alwayshave been looking down that valley and wondering where he was, and neverknowing how long he was there before he past on.My FELV boy Chang who pass on last summer, did this to us, and also My FELVBoy Rocky , he went missing for 3 days, but came back to die, they whereboth, too wild too do any treatment with. But Tabbs who was also a stray wassomeone's pet at some time,Sadly Tabbs did not wish me to hold him or give him cuddles, and went backinto his hiding place of the Video, so the phone call I had made the daybefore had to be repeated, No interest in food or water, and he lookedreally fed up. I spent a couple of hours sitting next to him and giving himmy contact and talking to him, while we waited for the vet to come. Eventhen he tried to do a little roll for me to tickle his tummy. My best Boy.The end was easy and very peace full for him, thanks to my vet. If we could have got the epogen, then may be he would have had a betterchance, for any one interested in the care Tabbs had or the history onfeline interferon and interferon A which he was treated with, then when I amfeeling better, I will give any information that may or may not be ofinterest.Also if we had started the Interferon early may be things would have had abetter ending.I do believe that the Interferon did give Tabbs a couple of extra months. hewas ill at Xmas time, so who knows.but Thanks to you all and this web site I do feel that I was able to do morefor Tabbs, than I would have with out it. Thank you.please Belinda would you add Tabbs to CLS list, do I need to send you aphoto of Tabbs. I would like too.no rush, good luck with your operation, praying all goes well and aspeedily recoveryDare I ask how is Bailey doing, I have been too upset to view the e mailsover the last week so forgive me on not being up to date. [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1180 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: OT - Humiliating experience with my cat
Yes My red Siamese did this to me on a 4 occasions and he also knew that he had done wrong, we had a great love for each other, and I still do not know why is did it, I had other cats, and I think he was saying to them that I was his or he was upset set or not feeling well. he had trouble with his kidneys for most of his life take care Sandra and Tabbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1180 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Re: a new place for my ginger and tsubomi
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Re: I need emotional support and advice - OT on rescue limitations
Thinking of you and saying a pray, I know how you feel, but I do believe you did the correct thing. even thou it is so hard. Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1175 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: TESTING
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Fw: Tabbs lernermic
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sandra To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Tabbs Tabbs Spanish Siamese tabby point FELV positive and Sandra Took him in when he was a full male adult, age between 6 and 10. Vacc and neutered, sharing home with 5 other cats 4 who have been taken in by me, lost 2 last year due to FELV, not tame enough to treat. Also took a kitten in who tested FELV, when 6 months old, but last test Nov 2005 all 3 other cats testing Neg. Blood tests to date, Jan `13 2006 HCT 17.5 old vets Jan 20 2006 HCT 17.2 new vets urea 40 Jan 28 2006 HCT 20.9 Feb 2006 HCT 10.00 Feb 25 2006 HCT 11.2 March 9 2006 HCT 14.3 Kidneys OK but liver which has been fine is not so good. if you wish me to e mail you a copy of the complete blood test I am happy to do so. as I am not that good at reading them, also they are in Spanish some times. . 30 Jan 2006 analysis Tabbs has no parasite (haemobartonella) in the blood. vet recommends to repeat the PROTEC.to make the immune system stronger, one week after first injection. done (from my Vet Victoria ) Hello Sandra: I am so happy to tell you that Tabbs hct is 14.3 %!!! 9.3.2006 Last time was 11 % and a non regenerative anaemia. Now is a little regenerative. So, now I suggest to follow in this way: -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same as before, started 27.02-Dacortin 5mg: injection then1 tablet /that evening followed by , 2 tablets per day for 3 days then 1 tablet mornings for 5 days. then one every other day, until further notice. (could be 10 days when my vet will do another blood test. -Interferon omega: ( started Virbagen Omega 4th March 1/2 bottle every other day. Tabbs HCT reading was 10% at this point. then 1/4 bottle every day(02.5 UI) ( 5 bottles) 10mu 500 euros He had been 17.5% dropping to 17.2, then after the iron and vitamins plus restarting the stomorgy Tabbs went up to 21% (great) at this point I did not feel the need for the Interferon omega, But on retesting again he had drop to 10 HCT so that is when we started the Interferon. -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same as before, this was 1/2 tablet per day of fortekor 5 1/2 tablet stomorgyl per day 10kgs Tabb has been on stomorgyl for about 6 weeks. may be longer. Vitamins drops and iron drops each day for the last 6 weeks( mixed in warm milk) L-lysine just start, about 5 days now 500mg morning and evening( mixed in food) Here is Tabbs History to date, Xmas 2005 pneumonia , hiding in the airing cupboard for about 5 days, then moved to spending all day in the bathroom sink. treated the pneumonia with antibiotics , I can not remember what type, and also reason that his FELV test in Nov 2005 was problemly the reason why he had picked up the pneumonia. at that time my old vet was only treating him with stomorgly for his bad mouth and teeth, alongside giving him vitamin B injections. after finding the groups web site, I printed out a lot of the information that I had collected, and took it down to him, But in fairness to him , my lack of Spanish and his lack of English proved to be a lack of interest in the information I had collected followed by comments of having tried the following with out success, but he was uninterested . At that time the paper I shown him was headed ImmunoRegulin --- More reading, and discontent, I change vets and found one that was recomended, and who is open to suggestions, and also had treated 3 of her own clients cats with the feline interferon. So to date, Tabbs was started on the omega when his blood count was reading 10%, where my new Vet remarked that he should have died, and that she was unsure to weather we would have any success to treating Tabbs at this late stage.Sadly we could have started his treatment of the interferon earlyer, but due to his readings on the 28 Jan, we thought the treatment was working. Two other points that are the beginning of Tabbs History, are that first he has had bad teeth for the last 2 years, and having waited for his kidney readings to come down enough for us to give his teeth a clean and remove the bad teeth, we wasted 18 months before being able to do this. But since he has been on the stomorgyl for over 2 months now, it appears that there is no problem with his Kidneys. my old vet tested him his self, and my new vet sends away to a very good place that is 99% correct. Tabbs has had a X ray at his old vets, and I was told that there did not seem to be any tumours showing, But he has got 2 small lumps in his mouth which are being to get too big, and they are giving him a great deal of trouble, so much so that he as stop eating, and on the 26 of Feb I was thinking of calling the vet out to put him to sleep due to him being on a real down.But he pick up the next day, and is still fighting. Today the 13th Feb his mouth
Re: Tabbs Interferon omega
I don't really know, I am still not sure, but another 4 days and I will have run out of the interferon, and then we will know, did you get my long e mail with all my notes ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1168 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Fw: New to the group, Interferon omega?
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: Fw: New to the group, Interferon omega? [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: New to the group, Interferon omega? Virbagen Interferon Omega? Is this an injectible yes, and 500 euros per batch of 5 vials 10 injections my boy is on it and we are not getting any side effects, but I will soon need another batch, his was down to HCT of 10 now up to 14.3 good luck Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1168 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Fw: Tabbs Interferon omega
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:21 PM Subject: Tabbs Interferon omega information that may be of interest to you all, open to all comments and help. one of the other members asked me to give her a break down, and I though it may be of interest to the rest of you all, as you have all been so helpfull . thank you Tabbs Spanish Siamese tabby point FELV positive and Sandra Took him in when he was a full male adult, age between 6 and 10. Vacc and neutered, sharing home with 5 other cats 4 who have been taken in by me, lost 2 last year due to FELV, not tame enough to treat. Also took a kitten in who tested FELV, when 6 months old, but last test Nov 2005 all 3 other cats testing Neg. Blood tests to date, Jan `13 2006 HCT 17.5 old vets Jan 20 2006 HCT 17.2 new vets urea 40 Jan 28 2006 HCT 20.9 Feb 2006 HCT 10.00 Feb 25 2006 HCT 11.2 March 9 2006 HCT 14.3 Kidneys OK but liver which has been fine is not so good. if you wish me to e mail you a copy of the complete blood test I am happy to do so. as I am not that good at reading them, also they are in Spanish some times. . 30 Jan 2006 analysis Tabbs has no parasite (haemobartonella) in the blood. vet recommends to repeat the PROTEC.to make the immune system stronger, one week after first injection. done (from my Vet Victoria ) Hello Sandra: I am so happy to tell you that Tabbs hct is 14.3 %!!! 9.3.2006 Last time was 11 % and a non regenerative anaemia. Now is a little regenerative. So, now I suggest to follow in this way: -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same as before, started 27.02-Dacortin 5mg: injection then1 tablet /that evening followed by , 2 tablets per day for 3 days then 1 tablet mornings for 5 days. then one every other day, until further notice. (could be 10 days when my vet will do another blood test. -Interferon omega: ( started Virbagen Omega 4th March 1/2 bottle every other day. Tabbs HCT reading was 10% at this point. then 1/4 bottle every day(02.5 UI) ( 5 bottles) 10mu 500 euros He had been 17.5% dropping to 17.2, then after the iron and vitamins plus restarting the stomorgy Tabbs went up to 21% (great) at this point I did not feel the need for the Interferon omega, But on retesting again he had drop to 10 HCT so that is when we started the Interferon. -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same as before, this was 1/2 tablet per day of fortekor 5 1/2 tablet stomorgyl per day 10kgs Tabb has been on stomorgyl for about 6 weeks. may be longer. Vitamins drops and iron drops each day for the last 6 weeks( mixed in warm milk) L-lysine just start, about 5 days now 500mg morning and evening( mixed in food) Here is Tabbs History to date, Xmas 2005 pneumonia , hiding in the airing cupboard for about 5 days, then moved to spending all day in the bathroom sink. treated the pneumonia with antibiotics , I can not remember what type, and also reason that his FELV test in Nov 2005 was problemly the reason why he had picked up the pneumonia. at that time my old vet was only treating him with stomorgly for his bad mouth and teeth, alongside giving him vitamin B injections. after finding the groups web site, I printed out a lot of the information that I had collected, and took it down to him, But in fairness to him , my lack of Spanish and his lack of English proved to be a lack of interest in the information I had collected followed by comments of having tried the following with out success, but he was uninterested . At that time the paper I shown him was headed ImmunoRegulin --- More reading, and discontent, I change vets and found one that was recomended, and who is open to suggestions, and also had treated 3 of her own clients cats with the feline interferon. So to date, Tabbs was started on the omega when his blood count was reading 10%, where my new Vet remarked that he should have died, and that she was unsure to weather we would have any success to treating Tabbs at this late stage.Sadly we could have started his treatment of the interferon earlyer, but due to his readings on the 28 Jan, we thought the treatment was working. Two other points that are the beginning of Tabbs History, are that first he has had bad teeth for the last 2 years, and having waited for his kidney readings to come down enough for us to give his teeth a clean and remove the bad teeth, we wasted 18 months before being able to do this. But since he has been on the stomorgyl for over 2 months now, it appears that there is no problem with his Kidneys. my old vet tested him his self, and my new vet sends away to a very good place that is 99% correct. Tabbs has had a X ray at his old vets, and I was told that there did not seem to be any tumours showing, But he has got 2 small lumps in his mouth which are being to get too big, and
Fw: New to the group, Interferon omega?
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: New to the group, Interferon omega? Virbagen Interferon Omega? Is this an injectible yes, and 500 euros per batch of 5 vials 10 injections my boy is on it and we are not getting any side effects, but I will soon need another batch, his was down to HCT of 10 now up to 14.3 good luck Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1168 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: New to the group, Interferon omega?
Virbagen Interferon Omega? Is this an injectible yes, and 500 euros per batch of 5 vials 10 injections my boy is on it and we are not getting any side effects, but I will soon need another batch, his was down to HCT of 10 now up to 14.3 good luck Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1168 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Tabbs Interferon omega
information that may be of interest to you all, open to all comments and help. one of the other members asked me to give her a break down, and I though it may be of interest to the rest of you all, as you have all been so helpfull . thank you Tabbs Spanish Siamese tabby point FELV positive and Sandra Took him in when he was a full male adult, age between 6 and 10. Vacc and neutered, sharing home with 5 other cats 4 who have been taken in by me, lost 2 last year due to FELV, not tame enough to treat. Also took a kitten in who tested FELV, when 6 months old, but last test Nov 2005 all 3 other cats testing Neg. Blood tests to date, Jan `13 2006 HCT 17.5 old vets Jan 20 2006 HCT 17.2 new vets urea 40 Jan 28 2006 HCT 20.9 Feb 2006 HCT 10.00 Feb 25 2006 HCT 11.2 March 9 2006 HCT 14.3 Kidneys OK but liver which has been fine is not so good. if you wish me to e mail you a copy of the complete blood test I am happy to do so. as I am not that good at reading them, also they are in Spanish some times. . 30 Jan 2006 analysis Tabbs has no parasite (haemobartonella) in the blood. vet recommends to repeat the PROTEC.to make the immune system stronger, one week after first injection. done (from my Vet Victoria ) Hello Sandra: I am so happy to tell you that Tabbs hct is 14.3 %!!! 9.3.2006 Last time was 11 % and a non regenerative anaemia. Now is a little regenerative. So, now I suggest to follow in this way: -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same as before, started 27.02-Dacortin 5mg: injection then1 tablet /that evening followed by , 2 tablets per day for 3 days then 1 tablet mornings for 5 days. then one every other day, until further notice. (could be 10 days when my vet will do another blood test. -Interferon omega: ( started Virbagen Omega 4th March 1/2 bottle every other day. Tabbs HCT reading was 10% at this point. then 1/4 bottle every day(02.5 UI) ( 5 bottles) 10mu 500 euros He had been 17.5% dropping to 17.2, then after the iron and vitamins plus restarting the stomorgy Tabbs went up to 21% (great) at this point I did not feel the need for the Interferon omega, But on retesting again he had drop to 10 HCT so that is when we started the Interferon. -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same as before, this was 1/2 tablet per day of fortekor 5 1/2 tablet stomorgyl per day 10kgs Tabb has been on stomorgyl for about 6 weeks. may be longer. Vitamins drops and iron drops each day for the last 6 weeks( mixed in warm milk) L-lysine just start, about 5 days now 500mg morning and evening( mixed in food) Here is Tabbs History to date, Xmas 2005 pneumonia , hiding in the airing cupboard for about 5 days, then moved to spending all day in the bathroom sink. treated the pneumonia with antibiotics , I can not remember what type, and also reason that his FELV test in Nov 2005 was problemly the reason why he had picked up the pneumonia. at that time my old vet was only treating him with stomorgly for his bad mouth and teeth, alongside giving him vitamin B injections. after finding the groups web site, I printed out a lot of the information that I had collected, and took it down to him, But in fairness to him , my lack of Spanish and his lack of English proved to be a lack of interest in the information I had collected followed by comments of having tried the following with out success, but he was uninterested . At that time the paper I shown him was headed ImmunoRegulin --- More reading, and discontent, I change vets and found one that was recomended, and who is open to suggestions, and also had treated 3 of her own clients cats with the feline interferon. So to date, Tabbs was started on the omega when his blood count was reading 10%, where my new Vet remarked that he should have died, and that she was unsure to weather we would have any success to treating Tabbs at this late stage.Sadly we could have started his treatment of the interferon earlyer, but due to his readings on the 28 Jan, we thought the treatment was working. Two other points that are the beginning of Tabbs History, are that first he has had bad teeth for the last 2 years, and having waited for his kidney readings to come down enough for us to give his teeth a clean and remove the bad teeth, we wasted 18 months before being able to do this. But since he has been on the stomorgyl for over 2 months now, it appears that there is no problem with his Kidneys. my old vet tested him his self, and my new vet sends away to a very good place that is 99% correct. Tabbs has had a X ray at his old vets, and I was told that there did not seem to be any tumours showing, But he has got 2 small lumps in his mouth which are being to get too big, and they are giving him a great deal of trouble, so much so that he as stop eating, and on the 26 of Feb I was thinking of calling the vet out to put him to
Re: Virbagon Omega Interferon
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Fw: Pekoe's Latest Tabbs Spain
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Fw: Sandra - Virbagen Omega Dosage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Sandra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Sandra - Virbagen Omega Dosage Many thanks for your reply and information, I dearly hope that with this batch of Virbagen Omega that I am hoping for a break in having to give him it so frequently, I will pass all the comments on to my vet, so as we can have a rethink on his dosing. Thank you Sandra and Tabbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1158 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1159 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
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Re: Pekoe's Latest Tabbs Spain
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Re: Sandra - Virbagen Omega Dosage
Many thanks for your reply and information, I dearly hope that with this batch of Virbagen Omega that I am hoping for a break in having to give him it so frequently, I will pass all the comments on to my vet, so as we can have a rethink on his dosing. Thank you Sandra and Tabbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1158 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Re: god news Tabbs Spain
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Re: Sandra - Virbagen Omega Dosage
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god news Tabbs Spain
A little bit of good news today, Tabbs HCT has gone up from 11 to 14.3, and every thing else on his readings are good except his liver, So will have to look into this, but unhappy about more drugs. any comments welcome on the treatment that he is on at the moment, I am still trying to get the epogen. below is the note from my vet. Hello Sandra: I am so happy to tell you that Tabs ht is 14%!!! Last time was 11 % and a non regenerative anemia. Now is a little regenerative. So, now I suggest to follow in this way: -Dacortin 5mg: 1 tablet / day -Interferon omega: 1/4 bottle every day.(2.5 UI) -Vitamins and rest of the medication: the same like before, also stomorgyl [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1157 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Fw: IMPORTANT - CLS Service Furkids
If you have are ready had this e mail sorry, but my computer is playing up and I am finding some of my replies in the delete box - Original Message - From: "Sandra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: Re: IMPORTANT - CLS Service Furkids Good luck Belinda , thank you for the news on Bailey, thinking of youboth, love from Tabbs and Sandra, I am collecting the epogen today from the hospital chemist, so wish us luck with the treatment, I am still unsure if I am doing the correct thing, but know I will regret it, if Tabbs gets worst, One can not win. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1126 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1157 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Fw: Angel Buster
From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Angel Buster so so sorry, my heart breaks for you. but you where there for him which is all that they want. Sandra Tabbs thinking of you both [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1148 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Fw: Belinda Bailey Tabbs and Sandra
To: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: Belinda Bailey Tabbs and Sandra Dear Belinda Thanks for thinking of us, I am still trying to get it, may be Thursday, I now have it on order but will only believe it when I have got it, Spain is notorious for sending you round in circles and making you dance to there tune, but heres hoping. But we have just done another blood test today, and I am hoping for a improvement on his readings, He is still eating and holding his own, I am so afraid to get my hopes up, but he is not getting any worst dare I say. and ,I am hoping that the Interferon is working, the second batch cost me 500 euros, so I am hoping that when I have to order a 3rd batch that I will be able to cut down the amount of dosing that he is on. Which is every day at 0.25 my vet is has suggested inject every other day and by mouth each day in between, because we are unsure if the Interferon omega works the same as the one that you use, comments please. I have managed to get the L-lysine from the Uk that arrived yesterday, Keep your fingers crossed for me and Tabbs that just may be we are making some head way, I will let you know what the blood test come out at. I Have prayed for you and Bailey and oh so hope that things take a change for the better. thinking of you both, take care Kindest regards Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1148 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1157 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Fw: Pekoe's Latest Tabbs Spain
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: Fw: Pekoe's Latest Tabbs Spain - From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Pekoe's Latest Tabbs Spain Hi Marlene, My name is Sandra, and I am treating my boy Tabbs on Virbagen Omega Interferon the first batch cost me 405 euros, but it has gone up, and the second cost me 500 euros, so that hurts, but I have not hand any side affects, Tabbs has been on it for over 4 weeks now, the first batch which was 5 vials of 10mu, and we treated him every other day injections only, so the batch only gave me ten injections, as we where giving him 1/2 a bottle every other day. The new batch we are giving every day, one day by mouth and one day injection. as my vet is unsure if giving it by mouth is correct. would be very interested to hear if giving by mouth with the Virbagen Omega Interferon is OK, as I hate doing the injections I am waiting blood test today to see how he is doing, and also awaiting to acquire the epogen, which causing problems on getting, I ordered it over ten days ago and am waiting for the hospital to ring me, when it arrives, but wonder if they are giving me the run around. Good luck and hope things improve for you both I would be grateful if every one could comment on the dosing of Virbagen Omega Interferon by mouth, I know the human interferon is given by mouth. [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1157 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Fw: Belinda Bailey Tabbs and Sandra
If you have are ready had this e mail sorry, but my computer is playing up and I am finding some of my replies in the delete box To: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: Belinda Bailey Tabbs and Sandra Dear Belinda Thanks for thinking of us, I am still trying to get it, may be Thursday, I now have it on order but will only believe it when I have got it, Spain is notorious for sending you round in circles and making you dance to there tune, but heres hoping. But we have just done another blood test today, and I am hoping for a improvement on his readings, He is still eating and holding his own, I am so afraid to get my hopes up, but he is not getting any worst dare I say. and ,I am hoping that the Interferon is working, the second batch cost me 500 euros, so I am hoping that when I have to order a 3rd batch that I will be able to cut down the amount of dosing that he is on. Which is every day at 0.25 my vet is has suggested inject every other day and by mouth each day in between, because we are unsure if the Interferon omega works the same as the one that you use, comments please. I have managed to get the L-lysine from the Uk that arrived yesterday, Keep your fingers crossed for me and Tabbs that just may be we are making some head way, I will let you know what the blood test come out at. I Have prayed for you and Bailey and oh so hope that things take a change for the better. thinking of you both, take care Kindest regards Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1148 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1157 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Fw: Pekoe's Latest Tabbs Spain
- From: Sandra To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Pekoe's Latest Tabbs Spain Hi Marlene, My name is Sandra, and I am treating my boy Tabbs on Virbagen Omega Interferon the first batch cost me 405 euros, but it has gone up, and the second cost me 500 euros, so that hurts, but I have not hand any side affects, Tabbs has been on it for over 4 weeks now, the first batch which was 5 vials of 10mu, and we treated him every other day injections only, so the batch only gave me ten injections, as we where giving him 1/2 a bottle every other day. The new batch we are giving every day, one day by mouth and one day injection. as my vet is unsure if giving it by mouth is correct. would be very interested to hear if giving by mouth with the Virbagen Omega Interferon is OK, as I hate doing the injections I am waiting blood test today to see how he is doing, and also awaiting to acquire the epogen, which causing problems on getting, I ordered it over ten days ago and am waiting for the hospital to ring me, when it arrives, but wonder if they are giving me the run around. Good luck and hope things improve for you both I would be grateful if every one could comment on the dosing of Virbagen Omega Interferon by mouth, I know the human interferon is given by mouth. [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1157 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: Pekoe's Latest Tabbs Spain
Hi Marlene, My name is Sandra, and I am treating my boy Tabbs on Virbagen Omega Interferon the first batch cost me 405 euros, but it has gone up, and the second cost me 500 euros, so that hurts, but I have not hand any side affects, Tabbs has been on it for over 4 weeks now, the first batch which was 5 vials of 10mu, and we treated him every other day injections only, so the batch only gave me ten injections, as we where giving him 1/2 a bottle every other day. The new batch we are giving every day, one day by mouth and one day injection. as my vet is unsure if giving it by mouth is correct. would be very interested to hear if giving by mouth with the Virbagen Omega Interferon is OK, as I hate doing the injections I am waiting blood test today to see how he is doing, and also awaiting to acquire the epogen, which causing problems on getting, I ordered it over ten days ago and am waiting for the hospital to ring me, when it arrives, but wonder if they are giving me the run around. Good luck and hope things improve for you both I would be grateful if every one could comment on the dosing of Virbagen Omega Interferon by mouth, I know the human interferon is given by mouth. [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1157 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: IMPORTANT - CLS Service Furkids
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Re: Angel Buster
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Belinda Bailey Tabbs and Sandra
Dear Belinda Thanks for thinking of us, I am still trying to get it, may be Thursday, I now have it on order but will only believe it when I have got it, Spain is notorious for sending you round in circles and making you dance to there tune, but heres hoping. But we have just done another blood test today, and I am hoping for a improvement on his readings, He is still eating and holding his own, I am so afraid to get my hopes up, but he is not getting any worst dare I say. and ,I am hoping that the Interferon is working, the second batch cost me 500 euros, so I am hoping that when I have to order a 3rd batch that I will be able to cut down the amount of dosing that he is on. Which is every day at 0.25 my vet is has suggested inject every other day and by mouth each day in between, because we are unsure if the Interferon omega works the same as the one that you use, comments please. I have managed to get the L-lysine from the Uk that arrived yesterday, Keep your fingers crossed for me and Tabbs that just may be we are making some head way, I will let you know what the blood test come out at. I Have prayed for you and Bailey and oh so hope that things take a change for the better. thinking of you both, take care Kindest regards Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1148 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Re: IMPORTANT - CLS Service Furkids
Good luck Belinda , thank you for the news on Bailey, thinking of youboth, love from Tabbs and Sandra, I am collecting the epogen today from the hospital chemist, so wish us luck with the treatment, I am still unsure if I am doing the correct thing, but know I will regret it, if Tabbs gets worst, One can not win. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1126 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
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Re: Sandra Belinda Tabbs Aranrsp (darbepoetin alfa has any one used this brand
Belinda, Thank you so much for all that helpful information, I have forwarded it on to my vet and will be ringing her shortly. Tabbs has pick up a little to day, But not eating very well due to his mouth bothering him. and Saturday night he was really down, when I was thinking of calling the vet out, to put him to sleep. Got myself in a right state. But we are over that for the moment. thanks to your help. Also I am chasing my vet up regarding the Aranrsp (darbepoetin alfa) which is the nearest match that I hope I can acquire over here in Spain, ( epogen) I had already printed out information on this, and had taken it down to her, and as you can see by her response at the time, We did not make any head way, But heres hoping that she will see the light, and after all this that I can get it. I do know from early enquires that I can not get it at the Chemist I did read on the web site that a couple of people had used it or were using it, Has there been any feed back on its success. As I am concern about the side affects being worst than the cure thinking of bailey and hoping all is improving daily Take care Sandra. please stay in touch as I will. kindest regards Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1107 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: a name for my sanctuary
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Belinda Sandra Tabbs
Belinda, Thank you so much for all that helpful information, I have forwarded it on to my vet and will be ringing her shortly. Tabbs has pick up a little to day, But not eating very well due to his mouth bothering him. and Saturday night he was really down, when I was thinking of calling the vet out, to put him to sleep. Got myself in a right state. But we are over that for the moment. thanks to your help. Also I am chasing my vet up regarding the Aranrsp (darbepoetin alfa) which is the nearest match that I hope I can acquire over here in Spain, ( epogen) I had already printed out information on this, and had taken it down to her, and as you can see by her response at the time, We did not make any head way, But heres hoping that she will see the light, and after all this that I can get it. I do know from early enquires that I can not get it at the Chemist I did read on the web site that a couple of people had used it or were using it, Has there been any feed back on its success. As I am concern about the side affects being worst than the cure thinking of bailey and hoping all is improving daily Take care Sandra. please stay in touch as I will. kindest regards Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sandra open to all comments reply from Tabbs
Belinda, Thank you so much for all that helpful information, I have forwarded it on to my vet and will be ringing her shortly. Tabbs has pick up a little to day,But not eating very well due to his mouth bothering him. and Saturday night he was really down, when I was thinking of calling the vet out, to put him to sleep. Got myself in a right state. But we are over that for the moment. thanks to your help. Also I am chasing my vet up regarding the Aranrsp (darbepoetin alfa) which is the nearest match that I hope I can acquire over here in Spain, ( epogen) I had already printed out information on this, and had taken it down to her, and as you can see by her response at the time, We did not make any head way, But heres hoping that she will see the light, and after all this that I can get it. I do know from early enquires that I can not get it at the Chemist I did read on the web site that a couple of people had used it or were using it, Has there been any feed back on its success. thinking of bailey and hoping all is improving daily Take care Sandra. please stay in touch as I will. kindest regards Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1094 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
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Belinda I put a copy of most of your e mail to my vet, and here is a anwser, please see below. deleting a few bit here and there, I have all ready change my vet once, and my new vet is being as helpfull as she can. she is German, and we do not have so much trouble with the langue My answers in negrita To: Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Tabbs please comments Hi Victoria, I am still thinking of calling you out to day for Tabbs to be put to sleep, but I am a little confused by the information I have just recievce from one of the groups members, and would like you to put my mind at rest regarding the treatment, Tabbs has has. I would hate to think that we have missed someting that would have helped him. please comment and advise me, that we have not missed any thing. especially as I have to make a decision very soon. I would be grateful if you would read the text below, which I have copyed from a e mail to me. PS forgive me for questioning the treament Hi Sandra, My Bailey is FeLV+ and is anemic, his kidney's are perfect in fact all of his organs are in great shape. His anemia is due directly to the FeLV virus replicating in the bone marrow, and preventing the bone marrow from producing the red cells. He is diagnosed with myeloid dysplastic anemia which we found by doing the bone marrow aspirate. Bailey's HCT was 19% (regenerative or non regenerative??) when we got his bloodwork results on January 3rd, we started the epogen on January 6th and his HCT went down to 15% in a few weeks, but was at 23% when we last checked it on Feburary 5th, this is a direct result from using the epogen, Bailey's HCT was continually going down, and I am positive without the epogen he wouldn not be alive today. Epogen can take up to 3 weeks to start working and in the meantime the HCT can and in many cases does go lower as it did with Bailey. You need to get your vet to try the epogen or get it yourself, it isn't that expensive atleast here in the US. The vial I got was about $300.00 but should last me 4 months. Please if you haven't already done so join the anemia group they are an excellent resource for this and can help with the dose strength if you do decide to try the epogen. My vet uses a larger strength than most vets do, but it is the same dose wise. Most vets perscribe the 2000IU strength which I think averages 3 or 5 doses, cost averages between $28 to $32 dollars, mine was the 1IU strength X2 which was 300.00 (although the pharmacy made a mistake and it wil cost me $330.00 for my next vial), they gave it to me at their misquoted price this last time. Honestly if his kidney's are fine and he has been checked for internal bleeding and for hemobart (even if he tested negative for the hemobart he may still have it, it is VERY tricky to find and if it were me I would put him on doxycycline for 21 days just to be on the safe side) We make a PCR of haemobartonella that is 99% of security, not an extended of blood. LIKE WE SPOKE BEFORE, an extended is not secure because it can be that we found not the haemobartonella- then I would do the bone marrow aspirate to find out exactly what is causing the anemia, there are so many things that can cause it. ¿?, is Belinda a vet??. We descarted, haemobartonella, kidneys, and is sure that is the bone narrow. Bailey was 5 months old when I found him and tested FeLV+ then, so he has been positive most of his life, he is 10 years old now. He has been healthy up until last year when we had teeth problems and now this anemia so we have been pretty lucky. So Sandra, like we spoke before: I have no chance to find eritropoyetina in my vet. If you have the possibility, we can try this treatment; but you must to know that can be that is no answer from the bone narrow. Another thing to ask belinda, is what kind of anemie had in the past baileys, because Now Tabs is 11 % of hematocrito and no regenerative anemie. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1092 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
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Thank you will try again, also I now have a web site which was given to me.for the l-lysine, I forgot to say that he is FELV but his Kidneys are OK. He is also on the immuno-regulin or know over here as interferon (Virbagen Omega) feline version with less side affects, He has been on it for 12 days day, every other day I give him a injection . thank you for your comments, more are welcome kindest regards Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1089 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: Tabbs my Siamese in Spain to Belinda open to all comments please regarding l-lysine
Hi Belinda, Due to his Kidney readings being Ok my vet seems to think that the epogen or Aranesp, will not help in this case, also remember he is FELV positive. at the beginning his kidneys where not so good on the readings , but we believe this was due to his bad mouth infecting the kidneys or that's what I believe, the other thing is that even though I have taken a report down to my vet to read (she is German and did know all about interferon, and is also treating 3 other cats,) Her impression was a disinterest, due to some one who she knows has done some studies on it,( so she really sort of blew it out. She said as the Kidneys were working then it was not worth using it, also she mentioned the cost. and ontop of this I would have to get it my self, which on my past inquires I did meet a lot of stone walls. But if you know that it is worth a try please advise me of any other person who have treated there cats when the Kidneys are OK. I wish to thank you on your response. and I am open to all comments. thanks. I will let you know the blood results when I get them. take care to you both Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cat-sculptures.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1089 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Re: Tabbs my Siamese in Spain to Belinda open to all comments please regarding l-lysine
Belinda , no he is not generating new red cells, his early test shown he was no regenerated sadly. Thank you very much for the new information you have given me, I am starting to feel that I am losing control of things and that other than Tabbs being so strong willed with all the TLC that he is getting that I am slowly losing the battle. Hope I am wrong, I am pulling all the stops out, but kick my self that I did not start the interferon early. any comments welcome, and thanks for the other tips, kindest thoughts Sandra and my big teddy bear Tabbs [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1088 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: Tabbs my Siamese in Spain to Belinda open to all commentsplease regarding l-lysine (Gloria-question)
I not quite sure what I mean, but it is the L-Lysine, that helps boost the immune system. but I live in Spain and the cost of posting out to Spain will end up being more than the cost of the product. but if some one can give me all the details on what the packing lists. then I should be able to get something like it here. thank you very much for your reply [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]www.cat-sculptures.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1088 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Re: Tabbs my Siamese in Spain to Belinda open to all comments please regarding l-lysine
Hi Belinda, I have not been on line so much as I had some bad news 2 weeks ago, with the last blood test showing Tabbs at HCT 10%, he drop from HCT 21% , which was up on another test 2 weeks early where he had drop from 17.5 to 17.2, then the last test but one he went up to the HCT21% .To have this big drop was a shock to me, as I thought he was picking up, so did the new vet, The only good news is that on all the tests (4 now), his Kidneys seem to be good. He has been on the Interferon for the last 11 days, I have been lucky and have been using the feline interferon Virbagen omega, 1/2 ml every other day, I am also luckly that he is still eating and has no side effects that are showing . A little quite for a fews hours after the injection, which I am doing at home. I had a another blood test this morning, which will be the first after using the interferon, I was hopful that we were going to have some good results, but when the blood was drawn, the blood did not look very good, too much water showing, I will not know the results until hopfully Saturday midday. So not looking so good. his mouth is still playing him up and I will be restarting the stomorgyl as this seem to help him, but we took a break from it when we started the interferon. Also he is on Iron and vitamins supperments, and the Kidneys Fortekor 5 I have been trying to get the l-lysine from my chemist, but their brand names are not the same, can any one help me by giving me a list of all the ingredients that are normally listed on the packing., so as I can try get a close match. Belinda I read your up date this morning, and really hope that things take a better course for you and Bailey, think about you both, take care and stay strong Hi Sandra, With kidney problems anemia is quite common, you need to get Tabbs on epogen, and it would be a good idea to join the anemia list. I just recently joined because my Bailey is anemic, we will find out Tuesday if it is an auto immune response or the FeLV virus replicating in his bone marrow or cancer. He has been on epogen going on 2 weeks now and so far on his last bloodwork his HCT was ho lding at 18%. Tuesday he will get bloodwork again to see if there has been any change. Not making the red cells means his anemia is non-regenerative and this makes it imperative he gets epogen, if he is not making red cells he will not live very long, and epogen takes up to 3 weeks to work. The fact that he is eating is good, my Bailey isn't eating anything on his own and I am syringe feeding him everyday.I couldn't read your bloodwork results are they in spanish? Can you ask your vet what the hemocrit value is, is this [ GOT : <19 UI/25_0c ] the hemocrit value on your bloodwork results?Here is the address for the anemia list, they are very knowledgable on kidney related anemia:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/As dangerous as it may be Tabbs mouth also needs to be addressed, untreated infections can lead to much more dangerous things, even death. What antibiotic was/is he on for it? Has it been checked to see if it is cancerous?-- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1088 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
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You put a smile on my face because so much you have said I can relate to over the last 5 years here in Spain regarding the 5 strays that I have added to my house hold. its so nice to know you are not the only fool around. good luck to both of you Sandra and Tabbs from Spain who has just had a second opinion with another vet who seems more on the ball. So here's hoping we can do a lot more for him will keep you all in touch. PS please let us know how things work out [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 1027 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!
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don't worry about the bite, I have had a few of them in the last 4 years with the boys that where intact, they seem a little more unpredictable, but after beening neutered do settle down, and I have never been bitten since they have had the chop. good luck and I am so happy that he is in good hands Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1027 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!
Re: Tabbs my Siamese in Spain
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My feline family sadly has been reduced from 6 to 4, due too OUR RED BOY rocky developing FELV back in the summer. He was our first stray to turn up on our door step, AND WAS WITH US FOR 4 YEARS, Chang was the last to be welcomed to our Villa, where upon he was only with us for 18 months, which was very sad, as he was so pleased to have found a home, and we where very upset to have him put to sleep due to kidney failure, and cat aids. on top of having taken 6 months to win him round to believing that we where his friends, it was very hard to not be in a position to treat him due to the fact that one trick of catching him with a visit to the vets and I would never get near him again for a month of Sundays. We had him neuter, and he would not let me get near him for over 4 months , Even though I did win him round again in the end. Now I also have our tabbs who tested FELV , he was someone's pet at some time and is having all the help that I can give him, even though I wonder if my Spanish vet is as on the ball as he would have be believe,But his heart is in the right place and I think he is very good, I could cry for you with regard to your stray boy, it is so sad than now he knows love that he wants you all the time, my Chang was like that, I wish you all the luck in the world in finding him a good home , or where you can find a way round keeping him happy with the time that you can give him, I do know that people have cats that are felv positive, and keep them in a separate cat house out side away from there house cats, but you are always unhappy that they can not be with you, unless you could get him a friend who felv as well ,that he may get on with once he is neutered. good luck take care Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
