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Thanks so much, Jenny. His stools are firming up again and we're not sure what the problem was/is. Stool sample was negative for parasites. No antibiotic use. His blood count yesterday was stable - not improved but no worse since his last blood work on 9/3. He had his first shot of LTCI on Saturday. Reticulocytes were minimally improved from his blood work on Friday. RBCs just a tad lower but not drastically. I am still syringe feeding him daily and his weight is holding. Now if we can just get a couple more LTCI shots on board and keep him stable until they have time to work.Vet advised against a blood transfusion right now because of the possible side effects and because he seems to be maintaining and is not critically anemic. Thanks for your detailed response, Jenny. I know the time it takes to respond to others and I am very appreciative of your efforts. I hope Autumn continues to do well and will look forward to additional reports on her. Thanks again, Sally Jewell > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- > boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:07 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > Sally, > > I hope this gets to you. I don't always get all of the emails from > this > group so I hope you get this one. > > I just wanted to answer your question about diarrhea. Diarrhea > can be > difficult to diagnose a cause. In general, the first thing I would > rule out > are intestinal parasites - a stool sample helps (unless you are > quite > confident this is not likely - than it's just a waste of money). > > Second, bacterial and viral gastroenteritis (inflammation of the GI > tract) > can cause diarrhea - this may be secondary to antibiotic use or > simply due > to a failing immune system. If he's on an antibiotic I would try > giving the > antibiotic with food and using a probiotic like Acidophilus. It is a > bacteria that coats the intestinal lining and blocks bad bacteria > from > causing infection. You can get it at Walgreens - just divide the > recommended human dose by 15 and you should be pretty close > to a cat's > needs. > > Other causes could be a change in food, stress, GI auto > inflammatory > disease, etc. > If this is a relatively new development it is probably either > parasitic, > bacterial/viral, secondary to oral antibiotic use, or stress (physical > or emmotional) > > I would probably just give Acidophilus a try, since it is easy to > use, > doesn't require a prescription and has a low potential for bad side > effects. If I suspected worms, I would bring a stool sample to the > vet and > finally, if nothing else turns up I may request Metronidazole from > the vet > (if they were willing to try it) - it is an antiobiotic that treats > anaerobic bacteria and some protozoan infections that are hard > to pick up on > a stool sample and commonly cause GI upset. > > Hope that helps. > > Jenny > > > On 9/8/09, S. Jewell wrote: > > > > Wow, Jenny, that's a WONDERFUL report and very > encouraging > > to me and many others, I'm sure. > > > > > > > > At your suggestion (and thanks for the e-mail and phone > > messages), I began Lukey's syringe feeding yesterday with > > A/D and Gatorade. He did very well with both. > > > > > > > > I'm on my way out to feed him again this morning and then > > taking him back to the vet to put him on intravenous fluids > > and vitamin C to help with whatever infection may be going > > on, if any. Still not sure about what is causing the fever > > because his blood work was normal last Thursday except for a > > borderline low lymphocyte count and mild anemia (don't > > recall the numbers right now). The fluids seem to help the > > fever a lot, though, so it may in fact be from dehydration. > > We may go ahead and start him on antibiotics as well to be > > on the safe side, and he will be evaluated today as to any > > need for a transfusion, though I don't believe his anemia is > > that severe yet. > > > > > > > > One question: He appears to have some diarrhea, first > > noticed on Saturday. Do you have any thoughts about what > > might be causing the diarrhea or has Autumn experienced > > this? It was before his first LTCI shot, also given on > > Saturday. > > > > > > > > Thanks again for the wonderful and promising news. I have > > been so depressed all weekend and this
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Sally, I hope this gets to you. I don't always get all of the emails from this group so I hope you get this one. I just wanted to answer your question about diarrhea. Diarrhea can be difficult to diagnose a cause. In general, the first thing I would rule out are intestinal parasites - a stool sample helps (unless you are quite confident this is not likely - than it's just a waste of money). Second, bacterial and viral gastroenteritis (inflammation of the GI tract) can cause diarrhea - this may be secondary to antibiotic use or simply due to a failing immune system. If he's on an antibiotic I would try giving the antibiotic with food and using a probiotic like Acidophilus. It is a bacteria that coats the intestinal lining and blocks bad bacteria from causing infection. You can get it at Walgreens - just divide the recommended human dose by 15 and you should be pretty close to a cat's needs. Other causes could be a change in food, stress, GI auto inflammatory disease, etc. If this is a relatively new development it is probably either parasitic, bacterial/viral, secondary to oral antibiotic use, or stress (physical or emmotional) I would probably just give Acidophilus a try, since it is easy to use, doesn't require a prescription and has a low potential for bad side effects. If I suspected worms, I would bring a stool sample to the vet and finally, if nothing else turns up I may request Metronidazole from the vet (if they were willing to try it) - it is an antiobiotic that treats anaerobic bacteria and some protozoan infections that are hard to pick up on a stool sample and commonly cause GI upset. Hope that helps. Jenny On 9/8/09, S. Jewell wrote: > > Wow, Jenny, that's a WONDERFUL report and very encouraging > to me and many others, I'm sure. > > > > At your suggestion (and thanks for the e-mail and phone > messages), I began Lukey's syringe feeding yesterday with > A/D and Gatorade. He did very well with both. > > > > I'm on my way out to feed him again this morning and then > taking him back to the vet to put him on intravenous fluids > and vitamin C to help with whatever infection may be going > on, if any. Still not sure about what is causing the fever > because his blood work was normal last Thursday except for a > borderline low lymphocyte count and mild anemia (don't > recall the numbers right now). The fluids seem to help the > fever a lot, though, so it may in fact be from dehydration. > We may go ahead and start him on antibiotics as well to be > on the safe side, and he will be evaluated today as to any > need for a transfusion, though I don't believe his anemia is > that severe yet. > > > > One question: He appears to have some diarrhea, first > noticed on Saturday. Do you have any thoughts about what > might be causing the diarrhea or has Autumn experienced > this? It was before his first LTCI shot, also given on > Saturday. > > > > Thanks again for the wonderful and promising news. I have > been so depressed all weekend and this certainly gives me > hope for my Lukey. > > > > Sally > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wow, Jenny, that's a WONDERFUL report and very encouraging to me and many others, I'm sure. At your suggestion (and thanks for the e-mail and phone messages), I began Lukey's syringe feeding yesterday with A/D and Gatorade. He did very well with both. I'm on my way out to feed him again this morning and then taking him back to the vet to put him on intravenous fluids and vitamin C to help with whatever infection may be going on, if any. Still not sure about what is causing the fever because his blood work was normal last Thursday except for a borderline low lymphocyte count and mild anemia (don't recall the numbers right now). The fluids seem to help the fever a lot, though, so it may in fact be from dehydration. We may go ahead and start him on antibiotics as well to be on the safe side, and he will be evaluated today as to any need for a transfusion, though I don't believe his anemia is that severe yet. One question: He appears to have some diarrhea, first noticed on Saturday. Do you have any thoughts about what might be causing the diarrhea or has Autumn experienced this? It was before his first LTCI shot, also given on Saturday. Thanks again for the wonderful and promising news. I have been so depressed all weekend and this certainly gives me hope for my Lukey. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wow, Jenny, that's a WONDERFUL report and very encouraging to me and many others, I'm sure. At your suggestion (and thanks for the e-mail and phone messages), I began Lukey's syringe feeding yesterday with A/D and Gatorade. He did very well with both. I'm on my way out to feed him again this morning and then taking him back to the vet to put him on intravenous fluids and vitamin C to help with whatever infection may be going on, if any. Still not sure about what is causing the fever because his blood work was normal last Thursday except for a borderline low lymphocyte count and mild anemia (don't recall the numbers right now). The fluids seem to help the fever a lot, though, so it may in fact be from dehydration. We may go ahead and start him on antibiotics as well to be on the safe side, and he will be evaluated today as to any need for a transfusion, though I don't believe his anemia is that severe yet. One question: He appears to have some diarrhea, first noticed on Saturday. Do you have any thoughts about what might be causing the diarrhea or has Autumn experienced this? It was before his first LTCI shot, also given on Saturday. Thanks again for the wonderful and promising news. I have been so depressed all weekend and this certainly gives me hope for my Lukey. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks so much for the encouragement and information, Laurie. This is a heartbreaking situation for us, as all of you know too well. Sally Jewell > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- > boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:11 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally > > Sally, that is so encouraging that he WANTS the food. That is > great. Please > check out the link suggested in earlier emails today with subject > "assisted > feeding". It is important for Lukey to get the same amount of food > via > syringe that he ate before getting sick. You want to avoid liver > failure. > Please keep us posted. Lukey is lucky to have you. > Laurie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. > Jewell > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and > suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called > and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and > Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right > to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be > giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding > again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him > via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first > effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on > the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely > anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow > when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly > hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him > again for lymphocyte and RBC count. > > Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in > an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. > > Sally Jewell > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk- > > boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons > > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > > > Sally > > I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post > with > > Jenny/ > > Autumn in the > > subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through > this scary > > time until your vet opens on Tuesday. > > > > I hope you can get help for him. > > > > Jaane > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: > > > > > Hi, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I > > > desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who > recently > > > posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement > with > > > the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I > > > presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my > FeLV > > > boys right now who is not eating and has been > hospitalized > > > for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild > anemia. > > > He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his > fever > > > for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI > > > injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit > > > feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open > again > > > until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy > the > > > Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to > > > Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny > about > > > the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was > before > > > the transfusion and how she responded. > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this > but > > > again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first > FeLV > > > cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it > has > > > thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and > > > desperate to help me in any additional ways such as > > > transfusion, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sally Jewell > > > > > > 502-363-1002 > > > > > >
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally
Thanks so much for the encouragement and information, Laurie. This is a heartbreaking situation for us, as all of you know too well. Sally Jewell > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- > boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:11 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally > > Sally, that is so encouraging that he WANTS the food. That is > great. Please > check out the link suggested in earlier emails today with subject > "assisted > feeding". It is important for Lukey to get the same amount of food > via > syringe that he ate before getting sick. You want to avoid liver > failure. > Please keep us posted. Lukey is lucky to have you. > Laurie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. > Jewell > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and > suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called > and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and > Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right > to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be > giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding > again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him > via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first > effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on > the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely > anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow > when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly > hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him > again for lymphocyte and RBC count. > > Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in > an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. > > Sally Jewell > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk- > > boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons > > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > > > Sally > > I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post > with > > Jenny/ > > Autumn in the > > subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through > this scary > > time until your vet opens on Tuesday. > > > > I hope you can get help for him. > > > > Jaane > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: > > > > > Hi, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I > > > desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who > recently > > > posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement > with > > > the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I > > > presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my > FeLV > > > boys right now who is not eating and has been > hospitalized > > > for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild > anemia. > > > He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his > fever > > > for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI > > > injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit > > > feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open > again > > > until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy > the > > > Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to > > > Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny > about > > > the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was > before > > > the transfusion and how she responded. > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this > but > > > again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first > FeLV > > > cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it > has > > > thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and > > > desperate to help me in any additional ways such as > > > transfusion, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sally Jewell > > > > > > 502-363-1002 > > > > > >
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Sally, that is so encouraging that he WANTS the food. That is great. Please check out the link suggested in earlier emails today with subject "assisted feeding". It is important for Lukey to get the same amount of food via syringe that he ate before getting sick. You want to avoid liver failure. Please keep us posted. Lukey is lucky to have you. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him again for lymphocyte and RBC count. Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. Sally Jewell > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- > boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > Sally > I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with > Jenny/ > Autumn in the > subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary > time until your vet opens on Tuesday. > > I hope you can get help for him. > > Jaane > > > > > On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: > > > Hi, All, > > > > > > > > I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I > > desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently > > posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with > > the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I > > presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV > > boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized > > for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. > > He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever > > for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI > > injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit > > feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again > > until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the > > Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to > > Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about > > the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before > > the transfusion and how she responded. > > > > > > > > I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but > > again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV > > cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has > > thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and > > desperate to help me in any additional ways such as > > transfusion, etc. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Sally Jewell > > > > 502-363-1002 > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o > rg > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o > rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him again for lymphocyte and RBC count. Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. Sally Jewell > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- > boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > Sally > I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with > Jenny/ > Autumn in the > subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary > time until your vet opens on Tuesday. > > I hope you can get help for him. > > Jaane > > > > > On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: > > > Hi, All, > > > > > > > > I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I > > desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently > > posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with > > the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I > > presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV > > boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized > > for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. > > He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever > > for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI > > injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit > > feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again > > until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the > > Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to > > Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about > > the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before > > the transfusion and how she responded. > > > > > > > > I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but > > again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV > > cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has > > thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and > > desperate to help me in any additional ways such as > > transfusion, etc. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Sally Jewell > > > > 502-363-1002 > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o > rg > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o > rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him again for lymphocyte and RBC count. Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. Sally Jewell > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- > boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > Sally > I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with > Jenny/ > Autumn in the > subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary > time until your vet opens on Tuesday. > > I hope you can get help for him. > > Jaane > > > > > On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: > > > Hi, All, > > > > > > > > I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I > > desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently > > posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with > > the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I > > presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV > > boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized > > for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. > > He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever > > for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI > > injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit > > feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again > > until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the > > Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to > > Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about > > the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before > > the transfusion and how she responded. > > > > > > > > I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but > > again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV > > cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has > > thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and > > desperate to help me in any additional ways such as > > transfusion, etc. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Sally Jewell > > > > 502-363-1002 > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o > rg > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o > rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sally, Hi, this is Jenny. I tried calling but you weren't home. Maybe you will get this first. There's a couple of issues here. Number one depending on how anemic he is, I would likely do a blood transfusion simply to buy him enough time for the injection to work. Please know that I am still waiting to see if the injection will truely work for Autumn. I am optimistic but don't know for sure. As for the more immediate issues. The fever may be due to an infection, possible upper respiratory, urinary tract or the dreaded hemobartonella. These would require antibiotic treatment. The fever may, however, be due to a dehydrated state. If he is not eating and drinking you will have to force feed and/or give subcutaneous fluid. If nothing else you can take pedialyte in a syringe (no needles) and give it to him. This at least provides glucose and electrolytes temporarily. A/D food is the best for force feeding. I would steer away from baby food as many of them can worsen the anemia. I have tried mixing pedialyte with a soft canned food (helps get the food into and out of the syringe and provides more fluid). Here's the challenge - you want to get in at least around 90-100 mL a day and you don't want them to throw up. This is tough, but it should get through until tomorrow. I think it is important to say that I generally have not done the force feeding and blood transfusions before because this is a fatal virus that always ends the same. Now, however, with the possibility of this Imulan shot working, there may be hope. It may be a long shot, but I'm willing to try. It is a lot of intensive care that requires subcutaneous fluids, sometimes forced feedings, possibly antibiotics and a lot of patience, love and prayer. Let me know if I can help further. Jenny On 9/6/09, S. Jewell wrote: > > Hi, All, > > > > I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I > desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently > posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with > the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I > presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV > boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized > for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. > He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever > for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI > injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit > feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again > until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the > Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to > Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about > the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before > the transfusion and how she responded. > > > > I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but > again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV > cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has > thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and > desperate to help me in any additional ways such as > transfusion, etc. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sally Jewell > > 502-363-1002 > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sally I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with Jenny/ Autumn in the subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary time until your vet opens on Tuesday. I hope you can get help for him. Jaane On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would only adopt a cat to someone I knew personally. I used to work in adoptions with the humane society, and our shelterI didn't like some of the adoptions they let go through. tonya --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Cindy Jackson wrote: From: Cindy Jackson Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:14 PM How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make sure they are reputable? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: > > They also receive a lot of funding and donations and have a dedicated board > of directors. Yes, but how much of that is due to the fact that they have been open to the public since the beginning? It seems a chicken and the egg thing to me. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, I have thought about buying land in the middle of nowhere. Normally, however, that would bethe kiss of death to any sanctuary. It is very diffcult; fortunately I have time to work it out in my mind. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:49 PM, MaryChristine wrote: > they owe much of their ability to have a different attitude toward > dumping to the fact that they have an enormous amount of land, they're > out in the middle of nowhere so that they don't have folks just > driving by every day, that they started out with a > much-larger-than-usual core group of dedicated, committed people, and > they have a very large group of volunteers. > > many smaller places have few if any of those attributes. > > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org > ) > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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They also receive a lot of funding and donations and have a dedicated board of directors. --- On Sat, 8/1/09, MaryChristine wrote: > From: MaryChristine > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 11:49 AM > they owe much of their ability to > have a different attitude toward > dumping to the fact that they have an enormous amount of > land, they're > out in the middle of nowhere so that they don't have folks > just > driving by every day, that they started out with a > much-larger-than-usual core group of dedicated, committed > people, and > they have a very large group of volunteers. > > many smaller places have few if any of those attributes. > > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > (www.purebredcats.org) > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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absolutely, tad, and what's worse, is that it's still happening with FIVs, even, with less rationale. if so many vets weren't themselves ignorant of the research, and the fact that for many YEARS, all the textbooks and associations have said never to make a life-or-death decision on an asymptomatic cat without a second test, we could go to the state vet assns and try to make a case for willful ignorance. but it's the professionals who are often the worse: just last month, in wichita, KS, a vet who tested a kitten and got a positive result flipped out, ranting about how she would have to close down her clinic for 48 hours to fumigate it; she and her staff were running around wiping down everything in the room, even tho the kitten hadn't been on those surfaces. i don't know how to fight this level of professional ignorance, nor how to expect shelters and rescues to know any better. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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In the past we have talked about shelters that call themselves NO KILL but as soon as the cat tests pos for FeLV it is KILLED I think we have just had such a case here in Mass It appears that a rescue went to pull a cat and get it on a transport to an adopter... The cat then tested pos. The rescue put a cry for help at 5:30 the end of the day... Later that evening I replied and said I could help Next thing I heard was that the cat had been PTS and rescue wasn't going to say any more Sounds like the OLD SCHOOL still lives where when a cat tests pos he is immediately PTS Tad MaryChristine wrote: they owe much of their ability to have a different attitude toward dumping to the fact that they have an enormous amount of land, they're out in the middle of nowhere so that they don't have folks just driving by every day, that they started out with a much-larger-than-usual core group of dedicated, committed people, and they have a very large group of volunteers. many smaller places have few if any of those attributes. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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they owe much of their ability to have a different attitude toward dumping to the fact that they have an enormous amount of land, they're out in the middle of nowhere so that they don't have folks just driving by every day, that they started out with a much-larger-than-usual core group of dedicated, committed people, and they have a very large group of volunteers. many smaller places have few if any of those attributes. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is a subject I've been interested in for a while, as I one day want to start my own sanctuary (with help of course). Best Friends is open to the public, and has no problem with people dumping - I have asked people who worked there and they said it wasn't an issue, and I asked what they would do if it became an issue, and they said they would probably just take the animals, but they are large enough to absorb an extra cat or dog or so with no issues.. I know many sanctuaries get animals dumped on them, and there is even a local sanctuary here where someone has been *stealing* and *killing* the animals (they are, among other things, a barnyard animal sanctuary). I think BF owes a lot of its success to the fact that it is open all the time..so I"m not sure how to resolve this issue. I wish the OT list was still around. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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yeah, i figured that you weren't making a black-and-white statement, but too many people DO: assuming that sanctuaries, big or small, SHOULD be open at all hours of the day, and that both the cats and the humans should welcome strange people showing up at all hours of the day! i'd still like to come up with a checklist for what a sanctuary setting should be--and folks, it's NOT always gonna be what a home will be! michael and tad and gary have homelike settings, but not every decent place does, and there are often choices that are made that we might not make for our personal cats. until, however, you're willing to open your life to these "undesirables," you're not there, having to make those choices. i'd like there to be a checklist that's realistic, and then a group of folks who are willing to visit the places in their area where people can't always get to themselves, to do a home visit. i don't think it's always possible for people to visit a facility themselves, even if that's what they'd prefer--i know that physically and financially, i couldn't make a trip out to say, michael's--but i would trust susan's judgment, or yours, belinda.. too many places cropping up in the past year or so calling themselves "sanctuaries," when no one has ever heard of them. makes me nervous. (micheal, i know you're not new, just choosing to be less public, which is a very reasonable response considering what has happened to so many good places.) just me, being objective as usual. MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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MC, That is what I mean, I wouldn't need the actual street address until I was sure I wanted to take the kitty there. General address to start is fine. But for me personally I would have to take the cat there and look at the place. I have only given cats up one time when my neighbor across the street moved and left 3 cats behind. I called around to all of the local shelters and sanctuaries and found one 80 miles away that could take them. I took them there, had a look around and gave them a $100.00 donation to take the cats, I know they thought I was the one dumping them but that didn't matter, I knew they were going to a place I felt comfortable with. They let me know that they had all 3 been adopted with in a month, they were all young, 10 months and under. Nice neighbor, their Momma didn't fare as well, I found her dead on the side of the road a couple of months or so before they disappeared into the night. They kept the other kitties inside until they disappeared because I didn't see them until they had moved. Believe me I wanted to keep them but I already had 7 of my own and realistically that just wasn't doable. The youngest one was only 10 or 12 weeks or so old. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Jeni That sounds like me... The kittens had a good life here although it was not a long life... Midnight, a cat from your area that we were working on transportation for, is still doing fine and she is going on 2 years here Yes... my vet is my one good reference but he is in the best position to know how my guys live and are cared for and treated here and it is important to have a vet that cares. Tad JENI RECA wrote: you could ask for two references, two people that know them and can just tell you a little about them, you can ask about their pet history and verify it with the references. A vet reference is great, unless it's their first time owning a cat. Someone did adopt two kittens from me on this list, they gave me a vet name and number and just talking with them and getting a good feeling about it, I knew the cats were going to be fine. They were too far to check out the living arrangements, but they kept in touch with me and sent me pictures. good luck!jeni Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:40:41 -0400 From: tadburn...@vermontel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make sure they are reputable? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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belinda, they NEVER gave out the address for angel wings, and i only know of one person who was ever actually AT one of their (many) locations; at the same time, every sanctuary setting i know of does not give out their street address UNTIL and UNLESS someone has a reason to have it. ie, when reyna and the place decide that they will work together, he will give it to her. the reasons are two-fold: one, once an address is out there, cats are dumped on the place constantly. and when they are dumped, the people who dump them rarely have the guts to tell you they're doing so--so in the north, you find dead cats in carriers in the winter, or housecats attacked by wildlife, or killed on the road. the other reason is that, in most sanctuary settings, the humans also live there, and they are NOT like shelters that have regular office hours where people can drop in any time. most times there are outside jobs, family times, etc. that the folks at the sanctuary have a right to have respected. at cat tail farms, we NEVER turned away anyone who had a real reason to come out, even if just to visit, but it had to be around OUR schedule of feeding, cleaning, vet visits, and what little semblance of lives that caring for 500+ cats allowed us. MC On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Belinda Sauro wrote: > No Address no cat ... > > -- > > Belinda > happiness is being owned by cats ... > > http://bemikitties.com > > http://BelindaSauro.com > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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you could ask for two references, two people that know them and can just tell you a little about them, you can ask about their pet history and verify it with the references. A vet reference is great, unless it's their first time owning a cat. Someone did adopt two kittens from me on this list, they gave me a vet name and number and just talking with them and getting a good feeling about it, I knew the cats were going to be fine. They were too far to check out the living arrangements, but they kept in touch with me and sent me pictures. good luck!jeni > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:40:41 -0400 > From: tadburn...@vermontel.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > Check with his vet > Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name > basis with a vet > Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the > cats will be living ??? > And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? > > Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the > past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think > I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year > ago. > Tad > > > Cindy Jackson wrote: > > >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? > >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found > >someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how > >did you make sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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In Reyna's situation, if she was able to bring the cat herself, Michael would gladly give her the address. But she isn't able to bring the cat from LA to Reno. So I'm working on transport. In a sanctuary situation (as opposed to a citizen non-rescuer adopter), you have to be careful about giving out your address. Too many sanctuaries have cats dumped at their door once the address is too public. So the physical address is on a need to know basis. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Belinda Sauro wrote: > From: Belinda Sauro > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 10:30 PM > Anyone who wouldn't > let you come over and see that cat is a big red flag for > me. You can't do that without an address. > > -- > Belinda > happiness is being owned by cats ... > > http://bemikitties.com > > http://BelindaSauro.com > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Agreed--when I was looking for a home for Romeo, I was referred to someone who apparently takes all the FELV cats from rescues in my area. BUT he never gives his address and they are perfectly content to meet him in a parking lot somewhere and give him cats. He may have been wonderful but I found his unwillingness to let me do a home visit too frightening. The joke is that I found his address (from his phone #) in about 30 seconds--but that wasn't the point. Then I had someone who called me about all this experience she had. I asked for a vet ref and she willingly gave it to me--though in retrospect, I suspect she figured I'd never check. Well the story her vet told me was awful and needless to say I was s glad I did that check. I've worked on placing animals long distance for the Shelter I volunteer for and its not easy. But there's an application form, vet check and always someone local who can check things out before AND after the placement. There's also an adoption contract that says that if for any reason and at any time, if the adopter cannot keep the animal, they MUST contact us first and give us an opportunity to plan for that animal. We also always do follow ups==pictures, conversations, etc. You can tell a lot from those about how things are going. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Anyone who wouldn't let you come over and see that cat is a big red flag for me. You can't do that without an address. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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RED FLAG! NEVER, EVER adopt out to ANYone who will NOT give out their persoanal, physical, residential address! Furthermore, never just ask for their address. VERIFY it! --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano wrote: What if I can't personally take the cat? The adopter does not live in CA. I live in San Diego, CA. He does answer all of my questions. The only thing he refuse to give me was his address. Should I be concern? He says that he wouldn't like his address to slip out and then have a line of people outside his place asking him to adopt their cats. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Is he the one who owns the yahoo FeLV list? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Anyone who wouldn't let you come over and see that cat is a big red flag for me. You can't do that without an address. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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No Address no cat ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Please both Reyna and Michael, don't take other people's concerns personally. It is good to check things out and be a little skeptical before handing over a cat to someone you don't know. Awhile back I took an FIV+ cat from Glendale, California. The people sending teh cat wanted references, which I gave them. They did check the references. They were very paranoid (actually suggested that I might sell the cat to a lab!) but I just gritted my teeth and reminded myself to look at it from their perspective. They even photographed the transport person and checked his driver's license before he left with the cat. It's OK. Better to be too careful than not careful enough. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, secondchancem...@aol.com wrote: > From: secondchancem...@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 9:17 PM > I have offered to take this cat for > life no matter how long or short it > might be, and give it a loving home with other cats to play > with, a family > that cares about them and my own time, effort and funds to > take care of them. > Reyna, I will be happy to give you references from rescue > groups that have > dealt with me and know me as well as the mgr at the local > SPCA that i work > with. i think my name will stand any scrutiny that > you would like to give. > > > > In a message dated 7/30/2009 8:21:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight > Time, > rcpin...@yahoo.com > writes: > > Susan, > > Hi! It's me Reyna. > How are you? > > Lately, people that know about my situation have been > treating me like if > I don't know what I'm doing. I might not have been > prepared for this type > of situation but I'm definitely doing the best I can > for my cat. > > : ) > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Susan Hoffman > wrote: > > > From: Susan Hoffman > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:09 PM > > > > Hey everyone. The person who offered to take the > cat is on thos list. > It's Michael at Second Chance Meow in Reno. I > think a few people on this > list know him. > > > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Cindy Jackson > wrote: > > > From: Cindy Jackson > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:54 PM > > Having that said Reyna you need to > > know where the cat will be going. You can't just > give the > > cat to anyone. A lot of people do not care about > animals and > > do horrible things to them. > > I'm assuming someone will be taking the cat > personally. Do > > you know who? > > > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Reyna Castano > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > > > > I made a mistake. I live in Los Angeles not San > Diego. > > > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Tad Burnett > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > > > > Check with his vet > > Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a > first name > > basis with a vet > > Will the adopter allow you or someone you know > to see how > > the > > cats will be living ??? > > And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? > > > > Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this > list in > > the > > past 6 years but none in the last couple years I > think > > I am getting old and slowing down after my heart > attack a > > year > > ago. > > Tad > > > > > > Cindy Jackson wrote: > > > > >How can you make sure that someone who wants to > adopt > > your cat is legitimate? > > >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat > here on > > felvtalk or have you found someone here that you > called to > > ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you > make > > sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > >Felvtalk mailing list > > >Felvtalk@felinel
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Tad, you can talk to me. I've been to Michael's house, met his wife, kids and the other cats that they have. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: > From: Tad Burnett > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:51 PM > Myself.. I would want to talk with > some one who knew this place maybe > from this list or another > Adoption is always a risk and there is always a question if > the alternative > is better or worse... > I adopted 6 cats from the Angel Wings things and I guess at > one time that > was a good sanctuary but when they finally shut it down > those poor animals > were in as terrible condition as they could be... Who knows > what happened... > Tad > > > Reyna Castano wrote: > > >What if I can't personally take the cat? > >The adopter does not live in CA. I live in San Diego, > CA. > > > >He does answer all of my questions. The only thing he > refuse to give me was his address. Should I be concern? He > says that he wouldn't like his address to slip out and then > have a line of people outside his place asking him to adopt > their cats. > >--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett > wrote: > > > > > >From: Tad Burnett > >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > > > >Check with his vet > >Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first > name > >basis with a vet > >Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see > how the > >cats will be living ??? > >And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? > > > >Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this > list in the > >past 6 years but none in the last couple years I > think > >I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack > a year > >ago. > >Tad > > > > > >Cindy Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > >>How can you make sure that someone who wants to > adopt your cat is legitimate? > >>Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on > felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to > ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make > sure they are reputable? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>___ > >>Felvtalk mailing list > >>Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have offered to take this cat for life no matter how long or short it might be, and give it a loving home with other cats to play with, a family that cares about them and my own time, effort and funds to take care of them. Reyna, I will be happy to give you references from rescue groups that have dealt with me and know me as well as the mgr at the local SPCA that i work with. i think my name will stand any scrutiny that you would like to give. In a message dated 7/30/2009 8:21:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcpin...@yahoo.com writes: Susan, Hi! It's me Reyna. How are you? Lately, people that know about my situation have been treating me like if I don't know what I'm doing. I might not have been prepared for this type of situation but I'm definitely doing the best I can for my cat. : ) --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Susan Hoffman wrote: From: Susan Hoffman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:09 PM Hey everyone. The person who offered to take the cat is on thos list. It's Michael at Second Chance Meow in Reno. I think a few people on this list know him. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Cindy Jackson wrote: > From: Cindy Jackson > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:54 PM > Having that said Reyna you need to > know where the cat will be going. You can't just give the > cat to anyone. A lot of people do not care about animals and > do horrible things to them. > I'm assuming someone will be taking the cat personally. Do > you know who? > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano > wrote: > > > From: Reyna Castano > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > I made a mistake. I live in Los Angeles not San Diego. > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett > wrote: > > > From: Tad Burnett > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > Check with his vet > Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name > basis with a vet > Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how > the > cats will be living ??? > And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? > > Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in > the > past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think > I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a > year > ago. > Tad > > > Cindy Jackson wrote: > > >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt > your cat is legitimate? > >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on > felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to > ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make > sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Susan, Hi! It's me Reyna. How are you? Lately, people that know about my situation have been treating me like if I don't know what I'm doing. I might not have been prepared for this type of situation but I'm definitely doing the best I can for my cat. : ) --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Susan Hoffman wrote: From: Susan Hoffman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:09 PM Hey everyone. The person who offered to take the cat is on thos list. It's Michael at Second Chance Meow in Reno. I think a few people on this list know him. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Cindy Jackson wrote: > From: Cindy Jackson > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:54 PM > Having that said Reyna you need to > know where the cat will be going. You can't just give the > cat to anyone. A lot of people do not care about animals and > do horrible things to them. > I'm assuming someone will be taking the cat personally. Do > you know who? > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano > wrote: > > > From: Reyna Castano > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > I made a mistake. I live in Los Angeles not San Diego. > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett > wrote: > > > From: Tad Burnett > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > Check with his vet > Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name > basis with a vet > Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how > the > cats will be living ??? > And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? > > Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in > the > past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think > I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a > year > ago. > Tad > > > Cindy Jackson wrote: > > >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt > your cat is legitimate? > >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on > felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to > ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make > sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Bless you Tad. My two lived to ages 16 and 22 years! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Another point to consider is that about 2/3rds of the FeLV+ cats have gone on within one year But if you keep adopting them as one passes on you eventually end up with a bunch of the 1/3rd that lives on for a more near normal life... This is my situation now Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: >Reyna, > >It's understandable. After all, people who adopt FeLV+ cats rarely turn any away. >Their good heart cannot say NO. > >--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano wrote: > > >From: Reyna Castano >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:16 PM > > >What if I can't personally take the cat? >The adopter does not live in CA. I live in San Diego, CA. > >He does answer all of my questions. The only thing he refuse to give me was his address. Should I be concern? He says that he wouldn't like his address to slip out and then have a line of people outside his place asking him to adopt their cats. >--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: > > >From: Tad Burnett >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM > > >Check with his vet >Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name >basis with a vet >Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the >cats will be living ??? >And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? > >Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the >past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think >I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year >ago. >Tad > > >Cindy Jackson wrote: > > > >>How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? >>Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make sure they are reputable? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>___ >>Felvtalk mailing list >>Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hey everyone. The person who offered to take the cat is on thos list. It's Michael at Second Chance Meow in Reno. I think a few people on this list know him. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Cindy Jackson wrote: > From: Cindy Jackson > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:54 PM > Having that said Reyna you need to > know where the cat will be going. You can't just give the > cat to anyone. A lot of people do not care about animals and > do horrible things to them. > I'm assuming someone will be taking the cat personally. Do > you know who? > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano > wrote: > > > From: Reyna Castano > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:24 PM > > > I made a mistake. I live in Los Angeles not San Diego. > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett > wrote: > > > From: Tad Burnett > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM > > > Check with his vet > Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name > basis with a vet > Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how > the > cats will be living ??? > And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? > > Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in > the > past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think > I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a > year > ago. > Tad > > > Cindy Jackson wrote: > > >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt > your cat is legitimate? > >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on > felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to > ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make > sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Another point to consider is that about 2/3rds of the FeLV+ cats have gone on within one year But if you keep adopting them as one passes on you eventually end up with a bunch of the 1/3rd that lives on for a more near normal life... This is my situation now Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: Reyna, It's understandable. After all, people who adopt FeLV+ cats rarely turn any away. Their good heart cannot say NO. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano wrote: From: Reyna Castano Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:16 PM What if I can't personally take the cat? The adopter does not live in CA. I live in San Diego, CA. He does answer all of my questions. The only thing he refuse to give me was his address. Should I be concern? He says that he wouldn't like his address to slip out and then have a line of people outside his place asking him to adopt their cats. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make sure they are reputable? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm not giving my cat to just anyone. I have spoken to the family. Will never know them personally, face to face, but I have done my work and know I can trust them. Besides, not long ago a FeLV cat from a member here was adopted by the same family and she knows them personally. She has nothing bad to say about them. I trust her too. She has helped me a lot. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Cindy Jackson wrote: From: Cindy Jackson Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:54 PM Having that said Reyna you need to know where the cat will be going. You can't just give the cat to anyone. A lot of people do not care about animals and do horrible things to them. I'm assuming someone will be taking the cat personally. Do you know who? --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano wrote: From: Reyna Castano Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:24 PM I made a mistake. I live in Los Angeles not San Diego. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found >someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how >did you make sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Having that said Reyna you need to know where the cat will be going. You can't just give the cat to anyone. A lot of people do not care about animals and do horrible things to them. I'm assuming someone will be taking the cat personally. Do you know who? --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano wrote: From: Reyna Castano Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:24 PM I made a mistake. I live in Los Angeles not San Diego. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found >someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how >did you make sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Myself.. I would want to talk with some one who knew this place maybe from this list or another Adoption is always a risk and there is always a question if the alternative is better or worse... I adopted 6 cats from the Angel Wings things and I guess at one time that was a good sanctuary but when they finally shut it down those poor animals were in as terrible condition as they could be... Who knows what happened... Tad Reyna Castano wrote: What if I can't personally take the cat? The adopter does not live in CA. I live in San Diego, CA. He does answer all of my questions. The only thing he refuse to give me was his address. Should I be concern? He says that he wouldn't like his address to slip out and then have a line of people outside his place asking him to adopt their cats. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make sure they are reputable? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Reyna, It's understandable. After all, people who adopt FeLV+ cats rarely turn any away. Their good heart cannot say NO. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Reyna Castano wrote: From: Reyna Castano Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:16 PM What if I can't personally take the cat? The adopter does not live in CA. I live in San Diego, CA. He does answer all of my questions. The only thing he refuse to give me was his address. Should I be concern? He says that he wouldn't like his address to slip out and then have a line of people outside his place asking him to adopt their cats. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found >someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how >did you make sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would want to see the place where the cat is going to be living. You could offer to sign a confidentiality agreement. I would recommend either doing a home visit before the adoption or deliver the cat. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Reyna Castano Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) What if I can't personally take the cat? The adopter does not live in CA. I live in San Diego, CA. He does answer all of my questions. The only thing he refuse to give me was his address. Should I be concern? He says that he wouldn't like his address to slip out and then have a line of people outside his place asking him to adopt their cats. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Tad, Wow! Twenty cats. I admire your kindness. I will definitely ask a lot of questions. I will check with her vet and personally take my cat to his new home. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found >someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how >did you make sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I made a mistake. I live in Los Angeles not San Diego. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found >someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how >did you make sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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What if I can't personally take the cat? The adopter does not live in CA. I live in San Diego, CA. He does answer all of my questions. The only thing he refuse to give me was his address. Should I be concern? He says that he wouldn't like his address to slip out and then have a line of people outside his place asking him to adopt their cats. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tad Burnett wrote: From: Tad Burnett Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:40 PM Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: >How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? >Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found >someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how >did you make sure they are reputable? > > > > > > > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Check with his vet Anyone adopting an FeLV+ cat had best be on a first name basis with a vet Will the adopter allow you or someone you know to see how the cats will be living ??? And are they willing to answer all your questions ??? Yes... I have adopted maybe 20 FeLV+ cats from this list in the past 6 years but none in the last couple years I think I am getting old and slowing down after my heart attack a year ago. Tad Cindy Jackson wrote: How can you make sure that someone who wants to adopt your cat is legitimate? Has anyone ever offered to adopt your cat here on felvtalk or have you found someone here that you called to ask if they could adopt your cat? If so, how did you make sure they are reputable? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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james, if you're reading this, could we maybe have a links page for folks to put up info on the programs people know about? and sally, WI has EVERYTHING. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:47 PM, SALLY NORDSTROM wrote: > > For anyone living in Milwaukee, WI, the Wisconsin Humane Society has > programs for spay/neuter, vaccinations, and food. It makes sense to have > these programs rather than having people surrender their beloved companions > - we especially need our babies when everything is going wrong, and it must > be less expensive to have these programs than to have to find homes for all > of the surrendered pets. > > Thanks for the reminder to be extra vigilant about our neighbors with the > poor economy! > > "Yes we can!" - Barack Obama > Sally > > > --- On Fri, 3/6/09, MaryChristine wrote: > > > From: MaryChristine > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:41 AM > > thanks for posting this, sue, because the issue of folks > > unable to take care > > of their critters right now, elderly or not, is becoming > > huge. > > > > folks, check with your local shelters to see if any of them > > run a pet-food > > bank--a lot actually do. there are ani-meals programs in a > > number of places, > > that deliver food for animals to homes where the humans > > can't afford to get > > the food, or can't get to the store to pick it up. in > > some places, there are > > programs that are funded by the United Way--they just > > don't get much > > publicity. > > > > social-service agencies SHOULD know about clients who have > > companion animals > > in need, and SHOULD be working with animal-welfare groups > > to help, but it > > doesn't happen when case loads aren't overwhelming > > the system, so i'm sure > > it's not now. > > > > sometimes all it takes is stopping long enough to look > > around: if you have > > an elderly or disabled neighbor that you know has critters, > > or is feeding > > ferals, ask them what kind of food they use because > > you're into coupons, and > > you'll keep an eye out (that's not charity, you > > see)--etc etc etc. > > > > MC > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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For anyone living in Milwaukee, WI, the Wisconsin Humane Society has programs for spay/neuter, vaccinations, and food. It makes sense to have these programs rather than having people surrender their beloved companions - we especially need our babies when everything is going wrong, and it must be less expensive to have these programs than to have to find homes for all of the surrendered pets. Thanks for the reminder to be extra vigilant about our neighbors with the poor economy! "Yes we can!" - Barack Obama Sally --- On Fri, 3/6/09, MaryChristine wrote: > From: MaryChristine > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:41 AM > thanks for posting this, sue, because the issue of folks > unable to take care > of their critters right now, elderly or not, is becoming > huge. > > folks, check with your local shelters to see if any of them > run a pet-food > bank--a lot actually do. there are ani-meals programs in a > number of places, > that deliver food for animals to homes where the humans > can't afford to get > the food, or can't get to the store to pick it up. in > some places, there are > programs that are funded by the United Way--they just > don't get much > publicity. > > social-service agencies SHOULD know about clients who have > companion animals > in need, and SHOULD be working with animal-welfare groups > to help, but it > doesn't happen when case loads aren't overwhelming > the system, so i'm sure > it's not now. > > sometimes all it takes is stopping long enough to look > around: if you have > an elderly or disabled neighbor that you know has critters, > or is feeding > ferals, ask them what kind of food they use because > you're into coupons, and > you'll keep an eye out (that's not charity, you > see)--etc etc etc. > > MC > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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When my mom was in her seventies she got scammed by some guy selling securities -- he told her she wouldn't lose money, and she ended up losing like $5,000. She felt so foolish on top of losing the money, which on a fixed income was not going to replenish itself, and of course I felt bad that she felt bad, and so very angry at this young snake oil salesman who preyed on her and others her age. That made me hypersensitive to the plight of older people, how easy it can be to take advantage of them and how at a loss some of them are in a world where technology and change can overwhelm even those of us who can keep somewhere near the cutting edge. Arlene and others like her are in my thoughts daily. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) thanks for posting this, sue, because the issue of folks unable to take care of their critters right now, elderly or not, is becoming huge. folks, check with your local shelters to see if any of them run a pet-food bank--a lot actually do. there are ani-meals programs in a number of places, that deliver food for animals to homes where the humans can't afford to get the food, or can't get to the store to pick it up. in some places, there are programs that are funded by the United Way--they just don't get much publicity. social-service agencies SHOULD know about clients who have companion animals in need, and SHOULD be working with animal-welfare groups to help, but it doesn't happen when case loads aren't overwhelming the system, so i'm sure it's not now. sometimes all it takes is stopping long enough to look around: if you have an elderly or disabled neighbor that you know has critters, or is feeding ferals, ask them what kind of food they use because you're into coupons, and you'll keep an eye out (that's not charity, you see)--etc etc etc. MC On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Sue & Frank Koren wrote: > I belong to a cat forum on-line. One of the members who is a well > respected TNR person posted this the other day and I have not been able to > stop thinking of this poor lady: > > "There is a town south of tucson. Very poor and colorful characters live > there. Its a dumping ground for people who abandon their companion cats and > dogs. There is a woman who has worked with us to S/N the abandoned cats in > her yard. She is devoted to these cats and feeds them and watches out for > them. > Last year her husband developed pancreatic cancer and died. We found out > yesterday she is going to loose her house and has been using her food stamps > to buy cat food for her companion indoor cats. her beloved dog is having > serious health problems and she doesnt have money to take him to a vet. > These animals have helped her get thru her hard times. > Our group has been supplying her with food for the ferals but didnt know > she didnt have money for her indoor animals. We are going to try to raise > money to help her dog go to the vet and help her with food for her indoor > cats." > > When I PM'd her asking how to help this poor woman this was her response: > > "I work with Paws Patrol of Green Valley. We have a website with pay pal if > that would be convenient to donate there. > http://greenvalleypawspatrol.org/ Be sure and mention it is for Arlene. > It made me sad all day thinking how awful it must be to face those things > alone in your elderly years. I'm sure none of us picture our lives happening > like that. Plus a lot of the older female generation are not self-sufficient > women like we are today. I know my mom is always wanting a man to do chores > and figure things out for her. (she is 84) when her daughters are perfectly > capable of doing alot of the stuff! > Its just plain wrong when the elderly fall on hard times like this with no > recourse. Medical bills bankrupt so many families. Please keep this woman in > your prayers and thoughts. We are going to have to try to move her colony of > cats because once she is gone they dont have a prayer to be looked after in > this community. Her name is Arlene." > > I am posting Arlenes story here with permission from the woman who posted > it in our cat forum. > Thanks, > Sue > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___
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thanks for posting this, sue, because the issue of folks unable to take care of their critters right now, elderly or not, is becoming huge. folks, check with your local shelters to see if any of them run a pet-food bank--a lot actually do. there are ani-meals programs in a number of places, that deliver food for animals to homes where the humans can't afford to get the food, or can't get to the store to pick it up. in some places, there are programs that are funded by the United Way--they just don't get much publicity. social-service agencies SHOULD know about clients who have companion animals in need, and SHOULD be working with animal-welfare groups to help, but it doesn't happen when case loads aren't overwhelming the system, so i'm sure it's not now. sometimes all it takes is stopping long enough to look around: if you have an elderly or disabled neighbor that you know has critters, or is feeding ferals, ask them what kind of food they use because you're into coupons, and you'll keep an eye out (that's not charity, you see)--etc etc etc. MC On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Sue & Frank Koren wrote: > I belong to a cat forum on-line. One of the members who is a well > respected TNR person posted this the other day and I have not been able to > stop thinking of this poor lady: > > "There is a town south of tucson. Very poor and colorful characters live > there. Its a dumping ground for people who abandon their companion cats and > dogs. There is a woman who has worked with us to S/N the abandoned cats in > her yard. She is devoted to these cats and feeds them and watches out for > them. > Last year her husband developed pancreatic cancer and died. We found out > yesterday she is going to loose her house and has been using her food stamps > to buy cat food for her companion indoor cats. her beloved dog is having > serious health problems and she doesnt have money to take him to a vet. > These animals have helped her get thru her hard times. > Our group has been supplying her with food for the ferals but didnt know > she didnt have money for her indoor animals. We are going to try to raise > money to help her dog go to the vet and help her with food for her indoor > cats." > > When I PM'd her asking how to help this poor woman this was her response: > > "I work with Paws Patrol of Green Valley. We have a website with pay pal if > that would be convenient to donate there. > http://greenvalleypawspatrol.org/ Be sure and mention it is for Arlene. > It made me sad all day thinking how awful it must be to face those things > alone in your elderly years. I’m sure none of us picture our lives happening > like that. Plus a lot of the older female generation are not self-sufficient > women like we are today. I know my mom is always wanting a man to do chores > and figure things out for her. (she is 84) when her daughters are perfectly > capable of doing alot of the stuff! > Its just plain wrong when the elderly fall on hard times like this with no > recourse. Medical bills bankrupt so many families. Please keep this woman in > your prayers and thoughts. We are going to have to try to move her colony of > cats because once she is gone they dont have a prayer to be looked after in > this community. Her name is Arlene." > > I am posting Arlenes story here with permission from the woman who posted > it in our cat forum. > Thanks, > Sue > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I belong to a cat forum on-line. One of the members who is a well respected TNR person posted this the other day and I have not been able to stop thinking of this poor lady: "There is a town south of tucson. Very poor and colorful characters live there. Its a dumping ground for people who abandon their companion cats and dogs. There is a woman who has worked with us to S/N the abandoned cats in her yard. She is devoted to these cats and feeds them and watches out for them. Last year her husband developed pancreatic cancer and died. We found out yesterday she is going to loose her house and has been using her food stamps to buy cat food for her companion indoor cats. her beloved dog is having serious health problems and she doesnt have money to take him to a vet. These animals have helped her get thru her hard times. Our group has been supplying her with food for the ferals but didnt know she didnt have money for her indoor animals. We are going to try to raise money to help her dog go to the vet and help her with food for her indoor cats." When I PM'd her asking how to help this poor woman this was her response: "I work with Paws Patrol of Green Valley. We have a website with pay pal if that would be convenient to donate there. http://greenvalleypawspatrol.org/ Be sure and mention it is for Arlene. It made me sad all day thinking how awful it must be to face those things alone in your elderly years. I’m sure none of us picture our lives happening like that. Plus a lot of the older female generation are not self-sufficient women like we are today. I know my mom is always wanting a man to do chores and figure things out for her. (she is 84) when her daughters are perfectly capable of doing alot of the stuff! Its just plain wrong when the elderly fall on hard times like this with no recourse. Medical bills bankrupt so many families. Please keep this woman in your prayers and thoughts. We are going to have to try to move her colony of cats because once she is gone they dont have a prayer to be looked after in this community. Her name is Arlene." I am posting Arlenes story here with permission from the woman who posted it in our cat forum. Thanks, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I took Cole to the vet this afternoon and I think it confirmed my worries. He has lost almost 2 lbs since June 24th. The vet did a complete blood count to see what his status is and his anemia is worsening at a very fast rate and if it does not increase his body will give out soon. His hemoglobin level was at a critical level of 11% this afternoon, where as a month and a half ago it was 20% and in May it was 31%. She said by the look of his blood work, his bone marrow has been greatly affected by the leukemia and his body is not making very many red blood cells anymore, if any. There was some concern that he might be developing a mass of some kind in his abdomen, but thankfully at this time nothing showed up on the xray. We are going to try to give him a little longer to get better by giving him Epogen shots which should increase his red blood cell production. At this time though it is unclear if his bonemarrow is to damaged to even make more red blood cells, but we will see. At this time he is still very weak and does not move around much, but he still purrs non stop and its as lovable as ever...which makes it that much harder to think of the end. I know that the shots will only improve the length of time he lives and will never cure him, but I am hoping it at least gives him enough energy to have a happy life. The vet said that if he lives through this week, then hopefully he can show a little bit of improvement. Thank you all for you support and words of advice. I am still terrified of knowing that I will lose my best friend sometime in the near future, but at least I get to spend time with him now. Here is a picture of my angel. Please pray for him. All of your kitties are in my thoughts and prayers and I am glad to know there are other people with hearts filled with enough love to take care of these wonderful kitties. Kim ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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yeah, i know about the referring here and there--sometimes, especially when money is so tight everywhere, that's the best we can do. but SOMEPLACE, you will find the right answer... try our site--it takes a LONG time to load, so people sometimes think it's broken... www.neuterspay.org. under find low-cost resourcesthere's a programming glitch, so don't try by city, just by state -- there are a LOT of california entries, but i think (maybe?) they're by zipcode so you can scroll down to the appropriate ones? On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Thanx MC, Great idea. > > > > Everyone that i have called refers me to someone else.They are asking $60 > for trap rental. > > I live in central Calif near Fresno so if there is anyone around here that > can give me info on no kill shelters or help with TNR program thats cost > effective it would sure be apprciated. Theres 1 little black ball of Fuzz > thats lets me get close she already has me by the heartstrings. But the > bigger ones scurry as soon as the patio door opens. > > Again Thanx for all the help. > > > > Warm Regards, Sharon > --- On *Fri, 7/25/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 1:33 PM > > > yep, gesine is a great resource for lots of things. > > one thing i learned when i was TRYING to do an up-to-date database of > national low-cost spay/neuter programs is that they change literally from > week to week, often as funding becomes available. so keep checking with the > places near you--and call the shelters and ask about new programs--we had a > local grant here that no one even KNEW about. and as silly as this > sounds, there's a shelter somewhere in the southern states that funds its > entire spay/neuter program with bottle returns. ask your family, your > friends, your neighors to just let you take back their bottles to fund > taking care of the colony.. it adds up really fast--find people like me > who will literally GIVE AWAY my bottles to avoid having to have them clutter > up my house. i don't have a car, so it's worth it to me to pay someone, > essentially, 10 cents each to get rid of them! > > make up a sign and stick in on a big container: cans for the cats it's > so simple and it has worked before.. > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Thanx Diane, >> >> I am corresponding with Gesine. Have gotten some great info from this >> group. >> >> >> >> I had taken Trix and Tink to SPCA (only because i am not working yet) for >> spay and neuter and have since found out that they dont test for Felv.They >> had Rabies and Fiv shots there, but me not being knowlegable, I thought Fiv >> shot was for felv. I am now trying to learn and asking many more questions. >> Trix and Tink were found in field not of the same mother, so now I am >> thinking Trix might already have been positive. >> >> >> >> Warm regards, Sharon >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On *Fri, 7/25/08, Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >> >> From: Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:58 AM >> >> >> Unfortunately, not all vets are current on the latest thinking on such >> "death sentence" diseases as FeLV and FIV. It's so important to find one >> who is knowledgeable and willing to work with a kitty through its various >> issues. There are many knowledgeable and supportive vets out there, and >> often the ones who are not knowledgeable welcome any info you can give them, >> so don't be discouraged. If this vet persists in her "he must be suffering" >> viewpoint it might be good to shop around. >> >> Good luck with "your" ferals. In case you haven't come across it, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a wonderful resource. Some of the members >> can be a little hard-line about some things, but the files section of the >> web page is a treasure trove of good info on trapping, vetting and other >> aspects of feral caretaking. Many of them are working with little or no >> money themselves. The co-listmom, Gesine, gives great down-to-earth advice. >> >> Diane R. >> >> -- >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
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Thanx MC, Great idea. Everyone that i have called refers me to someone else.They are asking $60 for trap rental. I live in central Calif near Fresno so if there is anyone around here that can give me info on no kill shelters or help with TNR program thats cost effective it would sure be apprciated. Theres 1 little black ball of Fuzz thats lets me get close she already has me by the heartstrings. But the bigger ones scurry as soon as the patio door opens. Again Thanx for all the help. Warm Regards, Sharon --- On Fri, 7/25/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 1:33 PM yep, gesine is a great resource for lots of things. one thing i learned when i was TRYING to do an up-to-date database of national low-cost spay/neuter programs is that they change literally from week to week, often as funding becomes available. so keep checking with the places near you--and call the shelters and ask about new programs--we had a local grant here that no one even KNEW about. and as silly as this sounds, there's a shelter somewhere in the southern states that funds its entire spay/neuter program with bottle returns. ask your family, your friends, your neighors to just let you take back their bottles to fund taking care of the colony.. it adds up really fast--find people like me who will literally GIVE AWAY my bottles to avoid having to have them clutter up my house. i don't have a car, so it's worth it to me to pay someone, essentially, 10 cents each to get rid of them! make up a sign and stick in on a big container: cans for the cats it's so simple and it has worked before.. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanx Diane, I am corresponding with Gesine. Have gotten some great info from this group. I had taken Trix and Tink to SPCA (only because i am not working yet) for spay and neuter and have since found out that they dont test for Felv.They had Rabies and Fiv shots there, but me not being knowlegable, I thought Fiv shot was for felv. I am now trying to learn and asking many more questions. Trix and Tink were found in field not of the same mother, so now I am thinking Trix might already have been positive. Warm regards, Sharon --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:58 AM Unfortunately, not all vets are current on the latest thinking on such "death sentence" diseases as FeLV and FIV. It's so important to find one who is knowledgeable and willing to work with a kitty through its various issues. There are many knowledgeable and supportive vets out there, and often the ones who are not knowledgeable welcome any info you can give them, so don't be discouraged. If this vet persists in her "he must be suffering" viewpoint it might be good to shop around. Good luck with "your" ferals. In case you haven't come across it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a wonderful resource. Some of the members can be a little hard-line about some things, but the files section of the web page is a treasure trove of good info on trapping, vetting and other aspects of feral caretaking. Many of them are working with little or no money themselves. The co-listmom, Gesine, gives great down-to-earth advice. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Harden Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thanx Tonya, I have been on the internet to many sites that have been very informative and am going to try to find help with the colony around my home. This was a new vet I went to and am now going to ask more questions. Being new to felv i didnt know much. I took her word that he was suffering and would only get worse. It's a little hard for me at this time because i lost my job so finances are low. But I am trying to find help so this doesnt happen again. The feralcat group at yahoo has been very helpful about tnr if i can find a vet who will help me, since i am not working and have the time to do it. Again Thanx so much for your support. Sharon --- On Fri, 7/25/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:22 AM Be sure to really check around. My sister is in North Carolina and they have TNR program that cost only like 15 dollars per spay and neuter. Good luck. t Sharon Harde___ Felvtalk mailing list Fe
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yep, gesine is a great resource for lots of things. one thing i learned when i was TRYING to do an up-to-date database of national low-cost spay/neuter programs is that they change literally from week to week, often as funding becomes available. so keep checking with the places near you--and call the shelters and ask about new programs--we had a local grant here that no one even KNEW about. and as silly as this sounds, there's a shelter somewhere in the southern states that funds its entire spay/neuter program with bottle returns. ask your family, your friends, your neighors to just let you take back their bottles to fund taking care of the colony.. it adds up really fast--find people like me who will literally GIVE AWAY my bottles to avoid having to have them clutter up my house. i don't have a car, so it's worth it to me to pay someone, essentially, 10 cents each to get rid of them! make up a sign and stick in on a big container: cans for the cats it's so simple and it has worked before.. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Thanx Diane, > > I am corresponding with Gesine. Have gotten some great info from this > group. > > > > I had taken Trix and Tink to SPCA (only because i am not working yet) for > spay and neuter and have since found out that they dont test for Felv.They > had Rabies and Fiv shots there, but me not being knowlegable, I thought Fiv > shot was for felv. I am now trying to learn and asking many more questions. > Trix and Tink were found in field not of the same mother, so now I am > thinking Trix might already have been positive. > > > > Warm regards, Sharon > > > > > > --- On *Fri, 7/25/08, Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:58 AM > > > Unfortunately, not all vets are current on the latest thinking on such > "death sentence" diseases as FeLV and FIV. It's so important to find one > who is knowledgeable and willing to work with a kitty through its various > issues. There are many knowledgeable and supportive vets out there, and > often the ones who are not knowledgeable welcome any info you can give them, > so don't be discouraged. If this vet persists in her "he must be suffering" > viewpoint it might be good to shop around. > > Good luck with "your" ferals. In case you haven't come across it, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a wonderful resource. Some of the members > can be a little hard-line about some things, but the files section of the > web page is a treasure trove of good info on trapping, vetting and other > aspects of feral caretaking. Many of them are working with little or no > money themselves. The co-listmom, Gesine, gives great down-to-earth advice. > > Diane R. > > -- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Sharon Harden > *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2008 10:40 AM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > >Thanx Tonya, > > > > I have been on the internet to many sites that have been very informative > and am going to try to find help with the colony around my home. > > This was a new vet I went to and am now going to ask more questions. Being > new to felv i didnt know much. I took her word that he was suffering and > would only get worse. > > > > It's a little hard for me at this time because i lost my job so finances > are low. But I am trying to find help so this doesnt happen again. > > > > The feralcat group at yahoo has been very helpful about tnr if i can find a > vet who will help me, since i am not working and have the time to do it. > > > > Again Thanx so much for your support. > > > > Sharon > > > > --- On *Fri, 7/25/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:22 AM > > Be sure to really check around. My sister is in North Carolina and they > have TNR program that cost only like 15 dollars per spay and neuter. Good > luck. > t > > *Sharon Harde* > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL > PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and > may be privileged. > They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you ha
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Thanx Diane, I am corresponding with Gesine. Have gotten some great info from this group. I had taken Trix and Tink to SPCA (only because i am not working yet) for spay and neuter and have since found out that they dont test for Felv.They had Rabies and Fiv shots there, but me not being knowlegable, I thought Fiv shot was for felv. I am now trying to learn and asking many more questions. Trix and Tink were found in field not of the same mother, so now I am thinking Trix might already have been positive. Warm regards, Sharon --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Rosenfeldt, Diane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:58 AM Unfortunately, not all vets are current on the latest thinking on such "death sentence" diseases as FeLV and FIV. It's so important to find one who is knowledgeable and willing to work with a kitty through its various issues. There are many knowledgeable and supportive vets out there, and often the ones who are not knowledgeable welcome any info you can give them, so don't be discouraged. If this vet persists in her "he must be suffering" viewpoint it might be good to shop around. Good luck with "your" ferals. In case you haven't come across it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a wonderful resource. Some of the members can be a little hard-line about some things, but the files section of the web page is a treasure trove of good info on trapping, vetting and other aspects of feral caretaking. Many of them are working with little or no money themselves. The co-listmom, Gesine, gives great down-to-earth advice. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Harden Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thanx Tonya, I have been on the internet to many sites that have been very informative and am going to try to find help with the colony around my home. This was a new vet I went to and am now going to ask more questions. Being new to felv i didnt know much. I took her word that he was suffering and would only get worse. It's a little hard for me at this time because i lost my job so finances are low. But I am trying to find help so this doesnt happen again. The feralcat group at yahoo has been very helpful about tnr if i can find a vet who will help me, since i am not working and have the time to do it. Again Thanx so much for your support. Sharon --- On Fri, 7/25/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:22 AM Be sure to really check around. My sister is in North Carolina and they have TNR program that cost only like 15 dollars per spay and neuter. Good luck. t Sharon Harde___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Unfortunately, not all vets are current on the latest thinking on such "death sentence" diseases as FeLV and FIV. It's so important to find one who is knowledgeable and willing to work with a kitty through its various issues. There are many knowledgeable and supportive vets out there, and often the ones who are not knowledgeable welcome any info you can give them, so don't be discouraged. If this vet persists in her "he must be suffering" viewpoint it might be good to shop around. Good luck with "your" ferals. In case you haven't come across it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a wonderful resource. Some of the members can be a little hard-line about some things, but the files section of the web page is a treasure trove of good info on trapping, vetting and other aspects of feral caretaking. Many of them are working with little or no money themselves. The co-listmom, Gesine, gives great down-to-earth advice. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Harden Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thanx Tonya, I have been on the internet to many sites that have been very informative and am going to try to find help with the colony around my home. This was a new vet I went to and am now going to ask more questions. Being new to felv i didnt know much. I took her word that he was suffering and would only get worse. It's a little hard for me at this time because i lost my job so finances are low. But I am trying to find help so this doesnt happen again. The feralcat group at yahoo has been very helpful about tnr if i can find a vet who will help me, since i am not working and have the time to do it. Again Thanx so much for your support. Sharon --- On Fri, 7/25/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:22 AM Be sure to really check around. My sister is in North Carolina and they have TNR program that cost only like 15 dollars per spay and neuter. Good luck. t Sharon Harde ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanx Tonya, I have been on the internet to many sites that have been very informative and am going to try to find help with the colony around my home. This was a new vet I went to and am now going to ask more questions. Being new to felv i didnt know much. I took her word that he was suffering and would only get worse. It's a little hard for me at this time because i lost my job so finances are low. But I am trying to find help so this doesnt happen again. The feralcat group at yahoo has been very helpful about tnr if i can find a vet who will help me, since i am not working and have the time to do it. Again Thanx so much for your support. Sharon --- On Fri, 7/25/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:22 AM Be sure to really check around. My sister is in North Carolina and they have TNR program that cost only like 15 dollars per spay and neuter. Good luck. t Sharon Harde___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Be sure to really check around. My sister is in North Carolina and they have TNR program that cost only like 15 dollars per spay and neuter. Good luck. t Sharon Harde ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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alley cat allies is at www.alleycat.org; there are many low-cost and even free spay/neuter programs for ferals and strays; they're a great resource and have links to many programs. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Thanx Tonya, > > Tink is vaccinated now, I had lost my job and so took Trixter and Tink to > Spca for spay and neuter. I thought they had all their shots also like was > done at my vets for the other 2 but found out the hard way losing Trixter > that it was not the case.( My stupity)Micki Kitty17yrs and Cocoa 5 years got > their boosters. But still have to have Tink retested. No matter the result > she will stay with me. She has really helped me over the loss of Trixter. > > > > I have gone to the other sites recommended about ferals but until I am back > to work it would be cost prohibative for me. > > > > Warm Regards Sharon > > --- On *Thu, 7/24/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 5:45 PM > > > I would spay any I could catch and make sure that my own cats were > vaccinated. I'm sorry for your recent loss. > tonya > > *Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Hi All, > I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to > thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. > I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround > me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help > me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. > > > I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them > just to be put to death. Any suggestions. > > Regards to all, Sharon > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL > PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanx Tonya, Tink is vaccinated now, I had lost my job and so took Trixter and Tink to Spca for spay and neuter. I thought they had all their shots also like was done at my vets for the other 2 but found out the hard way losing Trixter that it was not the case.( My stupity)Micki Kitty17yrs and Cocoa 5 years got their boosters. But still have to have Tink retested. No matter the result she will stay with me. She has really helped me over the loss of Trixter. I have gone to the other sites recommended about ferals but until I am back to work it would be cost prohibative for me. Warm Regards Sharon --- On Thu, 7/24/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 5:45 PM I would spay any I could catch and make sure that my own cats were vaccinated. I'm sorry for your recent loss. tonya Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would spay any I could catch and make sure that my own cats were vaccinated. I'm sorry for your recent loss. tonya Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Sharon, When my grandmother was feeding a feral colony in NC (I live in TX), I called Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Utah, a group I donate to, and they called one of their sister groups in NC. The rescue came out, trapped all of them, spayed/neutered, and then released them back to my grandmother. It was wonderful to see. That was about five years ago. My grandma died a year ago in July '07, and I trapped the only remaining feral, named her Ensie (for NC), and brought her back to TX. She let me pet her the night we arrived home (after 5 years of not letting me touch her) and she's been wonderful ever since. I hope you are able to find a good rescue group that will help you out. You might also consider seeing if you're local vet will help you out in case the rescues don't come through. I'm sorry to hear about your sweet Trixster. That must have been very hard. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:18:43 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanx Sharyl, --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:43 AM Sharon, there is a Yahoo Feral Cat group that has lots of info on managing feral cat colonies. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 12:18 PM Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanx Marylyn, I really appreciate the info. I never tried to stop the ferals from coming into my yards, they usually come to drink from my pool but if I went out there they scrambled. I dont know how many there are, but have seen about 10 to 12 Trixter was a love and am still missing him terribly, I am sry about about Dixie Louise. The other 3 Micki Kitty 17yrs, Cocoa 5yrs and Tink almost 1 who was also bitten tested negative but will have to have them retested in 3 months per vets suggestion. Again Thanx for the info, Regards Sharon --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 9:38 AM Check with Alley Cat Advocates or any TNR group in your area. Consider them a feral colony. They will help you. Live trapping is easy. Just remember to be very careful. A feral bit my finger and broke it.and, two surgeries later, it is doing fine. Luckily I had good insurance. And still had possession of the cat so she could be spayed and quarantined for the appropriate amount of time. If your cats really want to be outside, put up a dog kennel so they can go thru the pet door into the kennel. It is great. With farmland, you probably have fox and coyote. They will kill a cat in a heart beat. My Mom has ferals (people dump them in the strip mall behind her property) and she has to be concerned about the hawks. I just got a very small kitten from the pine thicket. She is in the bedroom now, napping. All of this is to say, be careful with your own cats. I did not realize all the dangers when I moved to the farm. I had hoped to have lots of cared for outside cats. That probably won't happen. Help the ferals you can. Mom has had a couple of dozen spayed/neutered and released. Some stay, some go. It is very hard when they go and all you can do is hope they found a good place to live. ACA has a good website with lots of information re caring for ferals. I am very sorry Trixter left this world. I just lost Dixie Louise. She made my life so much better though. I would not have missed one second of the time we had together. Not a nano second. Good luck. On Jul 24, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Sharon Harden wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sharon, there is a Yahoo Feral Cat group that has lots of info on managing feral cat colonies. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ Sharyl --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sharon Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 12:18 PM Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Check with Alley Cat Advocates or any TNR group in your area. Consider them a feral colony. They will help you. Live trapping is easy. Just remember to be very careful. A feral bit my finger and broke it.and, two surgeries later, it is doing fine. Luckily I had good insurance. And still had possession of the cat so she could be spayed and quarantined for the appropriate amount of time. If your cats really want to be outside, put up a dog kennel so they can go thru the pet door into the kennel. It is great. With farmland, you probably have fox and coyote. They will kill a cat in a heart beat. My Mom has ferals (people dump them in the strip mall behind her property) and she has to be concerned about the hawks. I just got a very small kitten from the pine thicket. She is in the bedroom now, napping. All of this is to say, be careful with your own cats. I did not realize all the dangers when I moved to the farm. I had hoped to have lots of cared for outside cats. That probably won't happen. Help the ferals you can. Mom has had a couple of dozen spayed/neutered and released. Some stay, some go. It is very hard when they go and all you can do is hope they found a good place to live. ACA has a good website with lots of information re caring for ferals. I am very sorry Trixter left this world. I just lost Dixie Louise. She made my life so much better though. I would not have missed one second of the time we had together. Not a nano second. Good luck. On Jul 24, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Sharon Harden wrote: Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi All, I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all. I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3. I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just to be put to death. Any suggestions. Regards to all, Sharon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
