subject:"\[Felvtalk\] Clumping litter ="

I have tried the chicken feed also and came up with the same pros and cons.  If 
we could just find a feed that was ground just a tad finer, it would be great.  
At our local elevator, they have hog feed but it is ground too fine and is a 
bit dusty epecially when Dee gets in the box.  She covers for an hour after she 
is done and raises a dust storm.  I didn't have problems with weevils.  You 
might try a local elevator/feed store if one is near you, the chick feed might 
be even cheaper.  I think I got mine for under $7.00 for 50 lbs.  And if it 
doesn't work for the litter box, put it out for the deer, birds and little 
creatures.  Just be sure it is a healthy distnce from the house or they will be 
inviting themselves in for anything else they can find.


 Beth Noren maxgoodb...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Yes, I've used Dumor brand Starter/Grower Chick Feed.  I get it
 from Tractor Supply Co., think it was $13.00 for 50lbs? last time I
 got it.  It's a bit of a hike to TSC, so I don't always use it.  Plus.
 my husband complains that it doesn't handle odor well enough.  Pros:
 1.price  2.low dust  3.biodegradable  4.doesn't come from strip
 mining.  5.safer.  Cons: 1.odor control  2.doesn't clump as hard as
 clay  3.doesn't sift as easily as clay  4.some people have problems
 with weevils in it, especially in summer.  Overall I like it,
 especially after paying 40-50 bucks for a much smaller bag of World's
 Best, which is pretty similar.
 
 Hope this helps,
 Beth N.
 
 On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in
  the clumping litter.  A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn.
  Have any of you tried this?  She says it's not only safer but
  much less expensive.
 
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Harley and Casey bat at the water oming down in their fountains, like they are 
playing with it.  That creates a puddle around the fountain.  The rest of the 
group just drinks water.  Harley also likes to play with the water whn I take a 
shower.  He tries to bite it as it comes down.  Also, Casey paws at the 
fountain like she was covering it, hiding it from the others.  She usually moes 
the whole thing about 2.  Have to watch it when I get up in the night or I 
stumble over it since it is in the bathroom.  Other one is in the kitchen.  For 
a while, I thought the units were leaking until I saw her doing it.


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I us Totes too. Our shelter has them in the Frat House room where their are 
 a bunch of boys who make a mess. We had to put a tray under their water bowls 
 too because they always had water all over the floor.
 Beth
 
 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Totes are wonderful.  I leave the top off and the boys are young  
 enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are  
 wonderful too.  I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who,  
 late in life, had issues getting positioned.  Besides the totes are a  
 lot cheaper and more appropriately sized.  FYI:  They make great  
 outdoor shelters too.
 On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
 
 
  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large  
  however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I  
  will try again (after deleting most of the original emails).  I have  
  used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used  
  to use it at their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd  
  awful after they had used the box even once and even customers  
  complained about the smell in the adoption center.  We had to go  
  back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because  
  people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was  
  scooped on a regular basis.
 
  For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large  
  Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats  
  can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from  
  peeing over the side.  We also use a low dust litter.  So far, our  
  cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up.
 
  Edna
 
 
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop.  
  It got
  good online reviews.
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle  
  athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone  
  used it
  before?
 
 
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QUESTION:  Why do they drag the bowls around?  Are they trying to hide it from 
the others.  Is it a tihng they inherited from wild ancestors?  Harley does not 
hide food , but his sister Dee does.  She will drag towels off the towel bar, 
rugs or whatever is handy to cover the food bowl when she is done eating.  I 
have had them both since they were 3 months and before that they were inside 
cats with their previous owner.  They were never wild and forced to hide their 
food from others.  Still she hides it.  I think Harley is related to Bengal 
tigers as he loves the water.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I've been using trays under the water bowls for years - sometimes the water
 bowls are dragged clear across a large roomI also place bowls with dry
 food into larger flat dishes or trays!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:34 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 I us Totes too. Our shelter has them in the Frat House room where their
 are a bunch of boys who make a mess. We had to put a tray under their water
 bowls too because they always had water all over the floor.
 Beth
 
 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Totes are wonderful.  I leave the top off and the boys are young  
 enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are  
 wonderful too.  I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who,  
 late in life, had issues getting positioned.  Besides the totes are a  
 lot cheaper and more appropriately sized.  FYI:  They make great  
 outdoor shelters too.
 On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
 
 
  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large  
  however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I  
  will try again (after deleting most of the original emails).  I have  
  used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used  
  to use it at their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd  
  awful after they had used the box even once and even customers  
  complained about the smell in the adoption center.  We had to go  
  back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because  
  people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was  
  scooped on a regular basis.
 
  For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large  
  Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats  
  can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from  
  peeing over the side.  We also use a low dust litter.  So far, our  
  cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up.
 
  Edna
 
 
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop.  
  It got
  good online reviews.
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle  
  athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone  
  used it
  before?
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

That and if it gets a bt humid like it has been around here the last couple of 
years, it gets hard all over, even in the storage bucket.  Did not like it at 
all.  World's Best may be a bit pricey, but it last a long tim if you scoop 2 
times a day and kills the odor, clumps good and most of all, all my cats like 
it.  That is the most important part because if they do not like it, they will 
go outside of the box every time.

 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I tried Sweat Scoop once. It was like cement when they peed  it dried. I 
 literally had to take a hammer to get it off the bottom of the littr pan.
 Beth
 
 Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got
 good online reviews.
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it
  before?
 
  I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my
  town.
 
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Same here - I might try it on a very small group.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I
  won't
  switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!
 
  good to know, thanks for sharing!
  - Original Message -
  From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
   Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
   Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this
  
   I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the
   switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box
   odors.
  
   Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.
  
   =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
   furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
   =^..^=
- Original Message -
From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  
Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just
checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All
Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus
   and
haven't opened/tried it yet.
  
I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to
   use
something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
   getting
so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping
   clay -
not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using
  regular
litter and baking soda.
  
Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to
  others
   I
know who are using the clumping litter.
  
Cindy
  
  
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From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  
 Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

 The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust
   Most

 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
   litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
 friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even
   lung
 cancer.

 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat
   digs
 in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs
  and
   can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in
   jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its
   lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is
  one
   of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to
   make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural
  clay
 ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not
   always
 safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and
  forms

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-09 Thread MaiMaiPG


Those would make nice outdoor shelters...weighted of course.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:30 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


Styrofoam?  Harley and Dee would make hash out of them in no time.   
If it resist the claws, it gets clawed to death.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Are they called totes?
I use large Styrofoam containers to ship chemo to hospitals - a  
friend is an
oncology nurse practitioner and saves them for us. They're larger  
than

Styrofoam coolers, sturdier, and already insulated.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Totes are wonderful.  I leave the top off and the boys are young
enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are
wonderful too.  I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who,
late in life, had issues getting positioned.  Besides the totes are a
lot cheaper and more appropriately sized.  FYI:  They make great
outdoor shelters too.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:



I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large
however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I
will try again (after deleting most of the original emails).  I have
used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used
to use it at their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd
awful after they had used the box even once and even customers
complained about the smell in the adoption center.  We had to go
back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because
people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was
scooped on a regular basis.

For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large
Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats
can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from
peeing over the side.  We also use a low dust litter.  So far, our
cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up.

Edna



Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
From: athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop.
It got
good online reviews.




On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle
athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:


Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone
used it
before?



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2011-07-09 Thread Cindy McHugh

When I was caring for a feral colony, I got a bunch of the styrofoam coolers 
that steaks were shipped in, cut a small hole in one side, anchored the top, 
and put them out for shelters in the winter. The cats used them and they 
lasted a long time.


Cindy

- Original Message - 
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



Those would make nice outdoor shelters...weighted of course.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:30 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 wrote:

Styrofoam?  Harley and Dee would make hash out of them in no time.   If 
it resist the claws, it gets clawed to death.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Are they called totes?
I use large Styrofoam containers to ship chemo to hospitals - a  friend 
is an

oncology nurse practitioner and saves them for us. They're larger  than
Styrofoam coolers, sturdier, and already insulated.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Totes are wonderful.  I leave the top off and the boys are young
enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are
wonderful too.  I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who,
late in life, had issues getting positioned.  Besides the totes are a
lot cheaper and more appropriately sized.  FYI:  They make great
outdoor shelters too.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:



I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large
however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I
will try again (after deleting most of the original emails).  I have
used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used
to use it at their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd
awful after they had used the box even once and even customers
complained about the smell in the adoption center.  We had to go
back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because
people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was
scooped on a regular basis.

For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large
Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats
can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from
peeing over the side.  We also use a low dust litter.  So far, our
cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up.

Edna



Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
From: athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop.
It got
good online reviews.




On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle
athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:


Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone
used it
before?


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The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any
renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and
poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+
Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's aroma - and her litter box is in a
bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway.
None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop.  I do sprinkle some
acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's
NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency!

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up in
the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as
soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find
which litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I put
everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat anymore
anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door
wide open to get the smell out.
 
He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard that
it can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something
else.  Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny
poops?


I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain
 

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of
her
 poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until
 she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
 International smelliest poop contest!
 
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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
 Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
 poop! His name is Sugar after all.
 
 Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
 couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
 first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.
 
 It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
 kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so
 confusing though.
 
 
 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
 profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
 Twain
 
 
  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes
 in 
  a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at
home
 in 
  an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form)
in 
  our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well
as 
  the cats.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  
  
   I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however,
I
 
   noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try
again 
   (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine
at
 
   home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their 
   Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had
used
 
   the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the

   adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but 
   especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the
cats 
   due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.
  
   For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid 
   Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and
out
 
   and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We 
   also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most
of 
   our cats are 12 and up.
  
   Edna
  
  
   Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I don't like that one, eater - I just add baking soda to refresh the litter
and over wet areas where the litter was removed - it helps a lot!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I fond the Arm  Hammer to be extremely dusty, also a litter that said it
was made from desert sand.  Krger carried it.  I got one box and tried it in
one of the boxes.  Threw it out the next day.  The cats and I were sneezing
and I found a fine coat of dust all over my room.

 Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote: 
 Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just 
 checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an 
 ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All 
 Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus
and 
 haven't opened/tried it yet.

 I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use

 something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
getting 
 so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay
- 
 not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular 
 litter and baking soda.

 Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I

 know who are using the clumping litter.

 Cindy

 - Original Message - 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

  The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust
Most

  Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

  Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
litter.
  Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
  friends
  including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
  cancer.

  Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
  absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs

  in
  the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and
can
  wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
  With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
  Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

  Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one
of
  the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to
make
  their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
  ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not
always
  safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
  hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's
stirring
  up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
  expands
  from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
  problems
  like the ones mentioned above.

  Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
  Let
  Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
  from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
  from
  grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting
and
  nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested.
Once
  the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only
could
  cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also
form 
  a
  hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.

  The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from
clumping
  litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
  dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
  simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
  non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
  recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
  pet.
  You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
  you're
  worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
  litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
  instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top
that
  has a filter for odor control.

  Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding
kitty
  litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
  saving the health or life of an animal.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-09 Thread Lynda Wilson

Have you tried Fortiflora?

- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any
renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and
poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+
Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's aroma - and her litter box is in a
bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway.
None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop.  I do sprinkle some
acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's
NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up 
in

the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as
soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to 
find
which litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I 
put

everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat anymore
anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door
wide open to get the smell out.

He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard 
that

it can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something
else.  Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny
poops?

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
From: at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of

her
poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night 
until

she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
International smelliest poop contest!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
poop! His name is Sugar after all.

Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.

It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so
confusing though.

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
are

profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter 
 boxes

in
 a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at

home

in
 an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form)

in

 our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well

as

 the cats.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com

 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large 
  however,

I

  noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try

again

  (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine

at

  home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their
  Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had

used

  the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in 
  the

  adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but
  especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the

cats

  due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.

  For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid
  Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and

out

  and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We
  also use a low dust litter. So far, our

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Yes, I have tried it - it costs a lot more than just good old plain
probiotics/acidophilus and cats immediately detect it in the food - won't
touch it! I think it's just one more way for the company and vets to make
money on a product specifically for cats.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Have you tried Fortiflora?

- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any
 renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and
 poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+
 Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's aroma - and her litter box is in a
 bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway.
 None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop.  I do sprinkle some
 acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's
 NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up 
 in
 the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as
 soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to 
 find
 which litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I 
 put
 everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat anymore
 anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door
 wide open to get the smell out.

 He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard 
 that
 it can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something
 else.  Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny
 poops?

 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
 profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
 Twain

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of
 her
 poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night 
 until
 she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
 International smelliest poop contest!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
 poop! His name is Sugar after all.

 Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
 couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
 first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.

 It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
 kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so
 confusing though.

 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
 are
 profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
 Twain

  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter 
  boxes
 in
  a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at
 home
 in
  an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form)
 in
  our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well
 as
  the cats.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

   I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large 
   however,
 I

   noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try
 again
   (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine
 at

   home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their
   Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-09 Thread Lynda Wilson

You're right, but my cat loved it.

- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Yes, I have tried it - it costs a lot more than just good old plain
probiotics/acidophilus and cats immediately detect it in the food - won't
touch it! I think it's just one more way for the company and vets to make
money on a product specifically for cats.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Have you tried Fortiflora?

- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any
renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and
poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+
Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's aroma - and her litter box is in a
bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway.
None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop.  I do sprinkle some
acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, 
it's
NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream 
consistency!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up
in
the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as
soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to
find
which litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I
put
everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat 
anymore
anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio 
door

wide open to get the smell out.

He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard
that
it can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something
else.  Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny
poops?

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
are

profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
From: at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of

her

poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night
until
she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
International smelliest poop contest!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
poop! His name is Sugar after all.

Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.

It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the 
different
kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets 
so

confusing though.

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that
are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to 
me

sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter
 boxes
in
 a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at

home

in
 an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form)

in

 our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well

as

 the cats.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com

 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large
  however,

I

  noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try

again
  (after deleting most of the original emails

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

On 07-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 There is 124 acres to put it on.  Poop gets pitched into unused  
 fields--far from the house.  I can't see a difference between theirs  
 and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey  
 etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust.  It may sound gross but  
 it really isn't

Absolutely no worse than the poop from all the other woodland 
animals.  It's all organic and biodegradable.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter dangers

I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in
the clumping litter.  A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn.
Have any of you tried this?  She says it's not only safer but 
much less expensive.   

Lorrie

 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning 
 
 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
 cancer.
 
 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time. 
 
 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
 ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
 safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
 hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
 up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands
 from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems
 like the ones mentioned above. 
 
 Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not Let
 Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
 from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from
 grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
 nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
 the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
 cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a
 hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I used it a few years ago.  My cats liked the Feline Pine that was 
shredded up and scoopable, but they refused to use the pellets.

The Wheat litter is good but too expensive when you have as many 
cats as I have.   Fortunately my cats only use their litter boxes
at night when they are inside, or during the winter. Otherwise they
prefer going outside to do their biz.  We have a couple of acres of
woods around our house and no traffic so it's safe for them.


Lorrie

On 07-08, Katy Doyle wrote:
 Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it
 before?
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter

That's the best compliment ever.  A friend recently came in
my house and said she couldn't even tell I had cats, and I have
15, so I must be scooping the litter boxes often enough.

On 07-08, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 
 If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it
 might smell.  But if they stay and visit for a while then you're
 probably good ;-) Especially if you have friends that don't have
 pets, they can't tolerate the smell for long.
  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter dangers

Sodium bentonite is a real danger - the other stuff, not so much, may just
be irritating and dusty.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 9:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter dangers

I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in
the clumping litter.  A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn.
Have any of you tried this?  She says it's not only safer but 
much less expensive.   

Lorrie

 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning 

 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
 cancer.

 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs
in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time. 

 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
 ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
 safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
 hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
 up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
expands
 from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
problems
 like the ones mentioned above. 

 Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not
Let
 Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
 from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat
from
 grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
 nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
 the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
 cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form
a
 hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. 

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2011-07-09 Thread Lynda Wilson


Yes it is the best compliment, Maureen rocks!

Wow! You are diligent keeping those litter boxes cleaned out. I bet your 
kitties love you more for that! Lorrie, what a caring and loving person you 
are to have 15 cats! I would have that many if I did not have a husband, 
lol! (Note: my husband has told me several times through the years that if 
there is such a thing as reincarnation, then he wants to come back as one of 
my cats!). I bet ppl say the same to you :)
- Original Message - 
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter



That's the best compliment ever.  A friend recently came in
my house and said she couldn't even tell I had cats, and I have
15, so I must be scooping the litter boxes often enough.

On 07-08, Maureen Olvey wrote:


If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it
might smell.  But if they stay and visit for a while then you're
probably good ;-) Especially if you have friends that don't have
pets, they can't tolerate the smell for long.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-09 Thread molveywda

That's just not right to mention ice cream and cat poop in the same sentence!

I was kind of hoping it was the FIV but if not I need to look into it.  Thanks 
for mentioning the probiotics.  Maybe I'll try it.

sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC

- Reply message -
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Date: Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:34 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any
renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and
poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+
Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's aroma - and her litter box is in a
bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway.
None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop.  I do sprinkle some
acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's
NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up in
the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as
soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find
which litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I put
everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat anymore
anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door
wide open to get the smell out.

He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard that
it can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something
else.  Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny
poops?

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of
her
 poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until
 she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
 International smelliest poop contest!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
 poop! His name is Sugar after all.

 Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
 couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
 first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.

 It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
 kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so
 confusing though.

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Guess I have a stronger stomach, but then I was the one who could go from 
disecting a frog into the cafeteria and eat lunch.  


 molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 That's just not right to mention ice cream and cat poop in the same sentence!
 
 I was kind of hoping it was the FIV but if not I need to look into it.  
 Thanks for mentioning the probiotics.  Maybe I'll try it.
 
 sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC
 
 - Reply message -
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Date: Sat, Jul 9, 2011 9:34 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any
 renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and
 poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+
 Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's aroma - and her litter box is in a
 bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway.
 None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop.  I do sprinkle some
 acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, it's
 NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream consistency!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
 I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up in
 the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as
 soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find
 which litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I put
 everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat anymore
 anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door
 wide open to get the smell out.
  
 He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard that
 it can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something
 else.  Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny
 poops?
 
 
 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
 profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
 Twain
  
 
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
  From: at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of
 her
  poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until
  she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
  International smelliest poop contest!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  
  Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
  poop! His name is Sugar after all.
  
  Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
  couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
  first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.
  
  It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
  kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so
  confusing though.
 
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A lot of people tell me that.  Does that say something about the way they are 
being treated ?  
If you are going to have cats and litter boxes and a family, then you have to 
keep them scooped.  Just one of the prices we pay for cats.


 Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: 
 Yes it is the best compliment, Maureen rocks!
 
 Wow! You are diligent keeping those litter boxes cleaned out. I bet your 
 kitties love you more for that! Lorrie, what a caring and loving person you 
 are to have 15 cats! I would have that many if I did not have a husband, 
 lol! (Note: my husband has told me several times through the years that if 
 there is such a thing as reincarnation, then he wants to come back as one of 
 my cats!). I bet ppl say the same to you :)
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter
 
 
  That's the best compliment ever.  A friend recently came in
  my house and said she couldn't even tell I had cats, and I have
  15, so I must be scooping the litter boxes often enough.
 
  On 07-08, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 
  If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it
  might smell.  But if they stay and visit for a while then you're
  probably good ;-) Especially if you have friends that don't have
  pets, they can't tolerate the smell for long.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Mine prefer outside unless it is bad weather or very hot.  They go to the woods 
for a couple of mice, voles, moles or shrews, do their business and come back 
to the deck where their water bowl is, find a comfortable spot and take a nap.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I used it a few years ago.  My cats liked the Feline Pine that was 
 shredded up and scoopable, but they refused to use the pellets.
 
 The Wheat litter is good but too expensive when you have as many 
 cats as I have.   Fortunately my cats only use their litter boxes
 at night when they are inside, or during the winter. Otherwise they
 prefer going outside to do their biz.  We have a couple of acres of
 woods around our house and no traffic so it's safe for them.
 
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 07-08, Katy Doyle wrote:
  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it
  before?
  
 
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Just like humans, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

 Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: 
 You're right, but my cat loved it.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  Yes, I have tried it - it costs a lot more than just good old plain
  probiotics/acidophilus and cats immediately detect it in the food - won't
  touch it! I think it's just one more way for the company and vets to make
  money on a product specifically for cats.

  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:14 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  Have you tried Fortiflora?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  The smelly poop cat (Ophelia) is very healthy for her age - not even any
  renal problems; she just doesn't assimilate the food properly - eats and
  poopsshe is NOT FIV/FeLV+
  Oh, YES, I DO wake up to Ophelia's aroma - and her litter box is in a
  bathroom far awaypast our bathroom, a hallway.
  None of our 5 FIV cats has runny poop.  I do sprinkle some
  acidophilus/probiotic into their food for better digestion...however, 
  it's
  NOT working with Ophelia's - hers is sort-of Carvel ice cream 
  consistency!

  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:46 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up
  in
  the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as
  soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to
  find
  which litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I
  put
  everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat 
  anymore
  anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio 
  door
  wide open to get the smell out.

  He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard
  that
  it can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something
  else.  Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny
  poops?

  I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
  are
  profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
  unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
  sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
  Twain

  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
  From: at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of
  her
  poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night
  until
  she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
  International smelliest poop contest!

  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
  poop! His name is Sugar after all.

  Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
  couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
  first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.

  It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the 
  different
  kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets 
  so
  confusing though.

  I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that
  are
  profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
  unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to 
  me
  sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
  Twain

   From: longhornf...@verizon.net
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

   I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter
   boxes
  in
   a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at
  home
  in
   an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form)
  in
   our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well
  as
   the cats.

   - Original Message - 
   From: Edna

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter dangers

2011-07-09 Thread Beth Noren

Yes, I've used Dumor brand Starter/Grower Chick Feed.  I get it
from Tractor Supply Co., think it was $13.00 for 50lbs? last time I
got it.  It's a bit of a hike to TSC, so I don't always use it.  Plus.
my husband complains that it doesn't handle odor well enough.  Pros:
1.price  2.low dust  3.biodegradable  4.doesn't come from strip
mining.  5.safer.  Cons: 1.odor control  2.doesn't clump as hard as
clay  3.doesn't sift as easily as clay  4.some people have problems
with weevils in it, especially in summer.  Overall I like it,
especially after paying 40-50 bucks for a much smaller bag of World's
Best, which is pretty similar.

Hope this helps,
Beth N.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in
 the clumping litter.  A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn.
 Have any of you tried this?  She says it's not only safer but
 much less expensive.

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2011-07-08 Thread Cindy McHugh

Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just 
checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an 
ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All 
Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and 
haven't opened/tried it yet.


I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use 
something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting 
so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - 
not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular 
litter and baking soda.


Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I 
know who are using the clumping litter.


Cindy


- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most

Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
friends

including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
cancer.

Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs 
in

the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
expands
from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
problems

like the ones mentioned above.

Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
Let

Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
from

grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form 
a

hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.

The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
pet.
You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
you're

worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
has a filter for odor control.

Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
saving the health or life of an animal.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. 
Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. 
What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long 
time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps 
the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco, 
they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well, 
but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy.


Thanks so much :)
Lynda
- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most

Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
friends

including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
cancer.

Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs 
in

the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
expands
from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
problems

like the ones mentioned above.

Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
Let

Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
from

grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form 
a

hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.

The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
pet.
You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
you're

worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
has a filter for odor control.

Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
saving the health or life of an animal.




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Cindy,
ONLY clumping litter would contain sodium bentonite - the regular kitty
litter clays just have dust which can be irritating but not as deadly!  Many
people believe that because clumping litter is so much more expensive, it
must be good!  There used to be a holistic cat magazine, Tiger Tribe, when
they folded, I purchased all their back copies.  They researched clumping
litter, and were told by manufacturers that the old adage buyer beware
should always be applied!  DUH!  Don't you think that when one purchases
something for one's pets, one wouldn't have to check its safety?
Natalie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cindy McHugh
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just 
checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an 
ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All 
Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and 
haven't opened/tried it yet.

I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use 
something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting 
so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - 
not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular 
litter and baking soda.

Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I 
know who are using the clumping litter.

Cindy


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From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


 Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

 The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most

 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
 friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
 cancer.

 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs 
 in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
 ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
 safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
 hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
 up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
 expands
 from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
 problems
 like the ones mentioned above.

 Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
 Let
 Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
 from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
 from
 grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
 nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
 the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
 cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form

 a
 hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.

 The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
 litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
 dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
 simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
 non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
 recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
 pet.
 You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
 you're
 worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
 litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
 instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
 has a filter for odor control.

 Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
 litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
 saving the health or life of an animal.




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2011-07-08 Thread Katy Doyle

Wow... You know, the dusty clay litter gives me asthma attacks, I'm ashamed
that I never thought of how it would affect my cats.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.netwrote:

Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust.
Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around.
What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long
time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps
the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco,
they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well,
but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy.

Thanks so much :)
Lynda

- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most

Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
friends
including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
cancer.

Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs
in
the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
expands
from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
problems
like the ones mentioned above.

Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not
Let
Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat
from
grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form
a
hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.

The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your
pet.
You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If
you're
worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
has a filter for odor control.

Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
saving the health or life of an animal.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

We get our litter at Walmart - cheapest there, even though we get a discount
at PetSmart.
The problem is that they are still pushing and selling all kinds of clumping
litter as if it were something special for your beloved cats!
My husband bought a small fabric toy for the cats, and I decided to read the
label: It said to be careful, make sure that cats don't tear the fabric and
eat the contents because it could cause serious injury or death! Mad in
China, and who oversees the safety of things coming in?

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. 
Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. 
What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long 
time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps 
the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco,

they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well,

but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy.

Thanks so much :)
Lynda
- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


 Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

 The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most

 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
 friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
 cancer.

 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs 
 in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
 ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
 safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
 hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
 up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
 expands
 from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
 problems
 like the ones mentioned above.

 Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
 Let
 Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
 from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
 from
 grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
 nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
 the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
 cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form

 a
 hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.

 The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
 litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
 dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
 simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
 non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
 recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
 pet.
 You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
 you're
 worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
 litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
 instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
 has a filter for odor control.

 Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
 litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
 saving the health or life of an animal.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

That's because we assume that everything we buy must be safe for them!
It's a shame that we have to be so suspicious of everything and question
every bit of info!

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:40 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Wow... You know, the dusty clay litter gives me asthma attacks, I'm ashamed
that I never thought of how it would affect my cats.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Lynda Wilson
longhornf...@verizon.netwrote:

 Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust.
 Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around.
 What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long
 time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps
 the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not
Petco,
 they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as
well,
 but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy.

 Thanks so much :)
 Lynda

 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

   Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

 The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most

 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
 friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
 cancer.

 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs
 in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and
can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to
make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
 ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
 safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
 hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's
stirring
 up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
 expands
 from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
 problems
 like the ones mentioned above.

 Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not
 Let
 Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
 from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat
 from
 grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
 nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested.
Once
 the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only
could
 cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also
form
 a
 hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.

 The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from
clumping
 litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
 dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
 simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
 non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
 recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your
 pet.
 You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If
 you're
 worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
 litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
 instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
 has a filter for odor control.

 Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
 litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
 saving the health or life of an animal.

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2011-07-08 Thread Val Green

This truly is scary and I've got first hand experience with how bad clumping 
litter can be. One of my cats had a mass of clumped litter caught between his 
toes which I didn't notice until I clipped his claws. (a maine coon with very 
furry toes) He was't even limping because of the mass.  I had to end up having 
the vet remove it because it was so embedded. I'll have to try the ground corn 
cob litter again. They didn't like it at all so I'll have to mix the two for a 
while then gradually phase out the clumping stuff. 

Thanks so much for the heads up on this, Natalie. 

Valerie

On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
 
 The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most
 
 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning 
 
 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
 cancer.
 
 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time. 
 
 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
 ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
 safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
 hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
 up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it expands
 from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung problems
 like the ones mentioned above. 
 
 Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not Let
 Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
 from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat from
 grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
 nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
 the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
 cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form a
 hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal. 
 
 The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
 litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
 dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
 simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
 non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
 recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your pet.
 You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If you're
 worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
 litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
 instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
 has a filter for odor control. 
 
 Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
 litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
 saving the health or life of an animal.
 
 
 
 
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Oh - since you guys mentioned asthma I just wanted to throw out there that if 
any of your kitties ever develop asthma there is a wonderful feline asthma 
group.  The people on that list know more about it than a lot of vets because 
it's not that common and they've had years of experience with it.  I have a cat 
with asthma and with their help I got him on inhaled medications, same kind 
that humans use, and it's wonderful and keeps his asthma under control.  Not 
nearly as hard on the body as prednisone or other steroids which is how asthma 
in cats is usually controlled.  Lots of vets have not had experience with using 
inhaled medications (Flovent) on cats so they either tell owners to put their 
cats on prednisone or steriod shots for the rest of their life.  Or the vets 
that know about inhaled meds for cats will start them on the lowest dosage of 
Flovent and then when it doesn't help the asthma the vet thinks inhaled meds 
doesn't work for cats.  This asthma group is great and can help get a kitty on 
the right dosage and give you lots of tips to get them used to using the 
Aerokat to do the inhaled treatments.
 
I also use an online pharmacy called 4 Corners which is located in New Zealand, 
to get the meds.  It's one third of the cost as the drugs in the U.S.
 
Anyway, just wanted you guys to know so if you ever need help with an asthma 
kitty go straight to that group.  I don't know what I would have done without 
them.  My vet knew about asthma and even gave me an Aerokat but she didn't 
think it was easy to get a cat to take inhaled meds so she just recommended a 
steroid shot every 6 weeks.  Thank God I found the group.


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:51:15 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 That's because we assume that everything we buy must be safe for them!
 It's a shame that we have to be so suspicious of everything and question
 every bit of info!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:40 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 Wow... You know, the dusty clay litter gives me asthma attacks, I'm ashamed
 that I never thought of how it would affect my cats.
 
 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Lynda Wilson
 longhornf...@verizon.netwrote:
 
  Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust.
  Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around.
  What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long
  time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps
  the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not
 Petco,
  they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as
 well,
  but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy.
 
  Thanks so much :)
  Lynda
 
  - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
 
  The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most
 
  Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
 
  Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
  Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
  friends
  including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
  cancer.
 
  Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
  absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs
  in
  the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and
 can
  wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
  With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
  Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
 
  Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
  the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to
 make
  their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
  ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
  safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
  hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's
 stirring
  up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
  expands
  from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
  problems
  like the ones mentioned above.
 
  Some

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread Terri Brown

Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.  Exquisicat 
Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the switch 
well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box odors.

Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


  Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just 
  checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an 
  ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All 
  Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and 
  haven't opened/tried it yet.

  I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use 
  something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting 
  so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - 
  not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular 
  litter and baking soda.

  Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I 
  know who are using the clumping litter.

  Cindy


  - Original Message - 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


   Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
  
   The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most
  
   Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
  
   Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
   Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
   friends
   including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
   cancer.
  
   Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
   absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs 
   in
   the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
   wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
   With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
   Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
  
   Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
   the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
   their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
   ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
   safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
   hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
   up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
   expands
   from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
   problems
   like the ones mentioned above.
  
   Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
   Let
   Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
   from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
   from
   grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
   nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
   the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
   cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form 
   a
   hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.
  
   The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
   litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
   dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
   simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
   non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
   recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
   pet.
   You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
   you're
   worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
   litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
   instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
   has a filter for odor control.
  
   Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
   litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
   saving the health or life of an animal

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't 
switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

good to know, thanks for sharing!
- Original Message - 
From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. 
Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the 
switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box 
odors.

Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi 
=^..^=
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org

 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just
 checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
 ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All
 Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus 
and

 haven't opened/tried it yet.

 I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to 
use
 something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was 
getting
 so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping 
clay -

 not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular
 litter and baking soda.

 Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others 
I

 know who are using the clumping litter.

 Cindy

 - Original Message - 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net

 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

  The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust 
Most

  Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

  Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to 
litter.

  Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
  friends
  including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even 
lung

  cancer.

  Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
  absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat 
digs

  in
  the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and 
can
  wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in 
jeopardy.
  With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its 
lungs.

  Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

  Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one 
of
  the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to 
make

  their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
  ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not 
always
  safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms 
a
  hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's 
stirring

  up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
  expands
  from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
  problems
  like the ones mentioned above.

  Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not
  Let
  Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your 
cat

  from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat
  from
  grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting 
and
  nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. 
Once
  the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only 
could
  cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also 
form

  a
  hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be 
fatal.

  The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from 
clumping
  litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and 
even

  dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
  simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
  non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
  recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your
  pet.
  You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If
  you're
  worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
  litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up 
odors
  instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't 
switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

good to know, thanks for sharing!
- Original Message - 
From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive. 
 Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

 I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the 
 switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box 
 odors.

 Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

 =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi 
 =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just
  checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
  ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All
  Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus 
 and
  haven't opened/tried it yet.

  I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to 
 use
  something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was 
 getting
  so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping 
 clay -
  not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular
  litter and baking soda.

  Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others 
 I
  know who are using the clumping litter.

  Cindy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

   Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

   The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust 
 Most

   Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

   Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to 
 litter.
   Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
   friends
   including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even 
 lung
   cancer.

   Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
   absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat 
 digs
   in
   the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and 
 can
   wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in 
 jeopardy.
   With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its 
 lungs.
   Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

   Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one 
 of
   the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to 
 make
   their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
   ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not 
 always
   safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms 
 a
   hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's 
 stirring
   up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
   expands
   from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
   problems
   like the ones mentioned above.

   Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not
   Let
   Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your 
 cat
   from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat
   from
   grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting 
 and
   nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. 
 Once
   the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only 
 could
   cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also 
 form
   a
   hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be 
 fatal.

   The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from 
 clumping
   litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and 
 even
   dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
   simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
   non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread Katy Doyle

Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it
before?

I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my
town.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I won't
 switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

 good to know, thanks for sharing!
 - Original Message -
 From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


  Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
  Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this
 
  I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the
  switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box
  odors.
 
  Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.
 
  =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
  furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
  =^..^=
   - Original Message -
   From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
   Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just
   checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
   ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All
   Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus
  and
   haven't opened/tried it yet.
 
   I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to
  use
   something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
  getting
   so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping
  clay -
   not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular
   litter and baking soda.
 
   Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others
  I
   know who are using the clumping litter.
 
   Cindy
 
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
   
The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust
  Most
   
Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
   
Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
  litter.
Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
friends
including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even
  lung
cancer.
   
Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat
  digs
in
the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and
  can
wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in
  jeopardy.
With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its
  lungs.
Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
   
Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one
  of
the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to
  make
their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not
  always
safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms
  a
hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's
  stirring
up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
expands
from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
problems
like the ones mentioned above.
   
Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do
 Not
Let
Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your
  cat
from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat
from
grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting
  and
nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested.
  Once
the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only
  could
cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also
  form
a
hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be
  fatal.
   
The problem of health difficulties and even

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread Katy Doyle

Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got
good online reviews.




On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it
 before?

 I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my
 town.

   On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I
 won't
 switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

 good to know, thanks for sharing!
 - Original Message -
 From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


  Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
  Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this
 
  I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the
  switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box
  odors.
 
  Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.
 
  =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
  furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
  =^..^=
   - Original Message -
   From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
   Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just
   checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
   ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All
   Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus
  and
   haven't opened/tried it yet.
 
   I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to
  use
   something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
  getting
   so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping
  clay -
   not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using
 regular
   litter and baking soda.
 
   Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to
 others
  I
   know who are using the clumping litter.
 
   Cindy
 
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
   
The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust
  Most
   
Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
   
Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
  litter.
Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
friends
including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even
  lung
cancer.
   
Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat
  digs
in
the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs
 and
  can
wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in
  jeopardy.
With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its
  lungs.
Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
   
Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is
 one
  of
the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to
  make
their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural
 clay
ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not
  always
safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and
 forms
  a
hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's
  stirring
up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
expands
from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
problems
like the ones mentioned above.
   
Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do
 Not
Let
Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your
  cat
from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your
 cat
from
grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting
  and
nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested.
  Once
the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only
  could
cause dehydration

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread MaiMaiPG

I like it a lot.  My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural  
thing for them.  I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it  
around trees or compost it.

On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone  
used it

before?

I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in  
my

town.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda  
Wilson

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But  
I won't

switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

good to know, thanks for sharing!
- Original Message -
From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the
switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any  
litter box

odors.

Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori  
and 6

furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
=^..^=
- Original Message -
From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I  
just

checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium  
Choice All
Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies  
Plus

and
haven't opened/tried it yet.

I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I  
used to

use
something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
getting
so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping
clay -
not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using  
regular

litter and baking soda.

Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to  
others

I
know who are using the clumping litter.

Cindy


- Original Message -
From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
To:  
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners  
Trust

Most


Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to

litter.
Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our  
feline

friends
including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even

lung

cancer.

Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat

digs

in
the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's  
lungs and

can

wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in

jeopardy.

With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its

lungs.

Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet,  
is one

of
the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this  
clay to

make
their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural  
clay

ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not

always
safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and  
forms

a

hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's

stirring

up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
expands
from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
problems
like the ones mentioned above.

Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do

Not

Let
Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop  
your

cat
from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop  
your cat

from
grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from  
swatting

and
nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets  
ingested.

Once
the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not  
only

could
cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could  
also

form

a
hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be

fatal.


The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

You throw it outside?  Not the poop, though, do you?
I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the pee!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I like it a lot.  My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural  
thing for them.  I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it  
around trees or compost it.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

 Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone  
 used it
 before?

 I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in  
 my
 town.

 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda  
 Wilson
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But  
 I won't
 switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

 good to know, thanks for sharing!
 - Original Message -
 From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
 Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

 I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the
 switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any  
 litter box
 odors.

 Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

 =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori  
 and 6
 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
 =^..^=
 - Original Message -
 From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I  
 just
 checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
 ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium  
 Choice All
 Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies  
 Plus
 and
 haven't opened/tried it yet.

 I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I  
 used to
 use
 something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
 getting
 so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping
 clay -
 not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using  
 regular
 litter and baking soda.

 Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to  
 others
 I
 know who are using the clumping litter.

 Cindy

 - Original Message -
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
 To:  
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

 The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners  
 Trust
 Most

 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
 litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our  
 feline
 friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even
 lung
 cancer.

 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat
 digs
 in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's  
 lungs and
 can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in
 jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its
 lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet,  
 is one
 of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this  
 clay to
 make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural  
 clay
 ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not
 always
 safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and  
 forms
 a
 hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's
 stirring
 up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
 expands
 from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
 problems
 like the ones mentioned above.

 Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do
 Not
 Let
 Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop  
 your
 cat
 from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop  
 your cat

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread MaiMaiPG

There is 124 acres to put it on.  Poop gets pitched into unused  
fields--far from the house.  I can't see a difference between theirs  
and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey  
etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust.  It may sound gross but  
it really isn't


On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Natalie wrote:


You throw it outside?  Not the poop, though, do you?
I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the  
pee!


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I like it a lot.  My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural
thing for them.  I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it
around trees or compost it.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:


Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone
used it
before?

I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in
my
town.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
Wilson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But
I won't
switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

good to know, thanks for sharing!
- Original Message -
From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making  
the

switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any
litter box
odors.

Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori
and 6
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and  
Sammi

=^..^=
- Original Message -
From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I
just
checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have  
an

ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium
Choice All
Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies
Plus
and
haven't opened/tried it yet.

I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I
used to
use
something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
getting
so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the  
clumping

clay -
not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using
regular
litter and baking soda.

Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to
others
I
know who are using the clumping litter.

Cindy


- Original Message -
From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners
Trust

Most


Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to

litter.

Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our
feline
friends
including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly  
even

lung

cancer.

Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help  
with
absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your  
cat

digs

in
the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's
lungs and

can

wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in

jeopardy.

With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its

lungs.

Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet,
is one

of

the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this
clay to

make

their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural
clay
ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not

always

safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and
forms

a

hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's

stirring
up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs,  
it

expands
from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of  
lung

problems
like the ones mentioned

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread Edna Taylor


I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, I 
noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again (after 
deleting most of the original emails).  I have used Feline Pine at home before 
and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their Petsmart adoptions.  The 
smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used the box even once and even 
customers complained about the smell in the adoption center.  We had to go back 
to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because people would 
not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular 
basis.
 
For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid Totes.  
Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out and it 
prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side.  We also use a low 
dust litter.  So far, our cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and 
up.
 
Edna
 

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
 From: athenapities...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It got
 good online reviews.
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it
  before?
 
  
___
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

It's not really gross on a large area - we couldn't - we'd smell it!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

There is 124 acres to put it on.  Poop gets pitched into unused  
fields--far from the house.  I can't see a difference between theirs  
and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey  
etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust.  It may sound gross but  
it really isn't

On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Natalie wrote:

 You throw it outside?  Not the poop, though, do you?
 I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the  
 pee!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I like it a lot.  My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural
 thing for them.  I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it
 around trees or compost it.
 On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

 Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone
 used it
 before?

 I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in
 my
 town.

 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
 Wilson
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But
 I won't
 switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

 good to know, thanks for sharing!
 - Original Message -
 From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
 Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

 I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making  
 the
 switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any
 litter box
 odors.

 Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

 =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori
 and 6
 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and  
 Sammi
 =^..^=
 - Original Message -
 From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I
 just
 checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have  
 an
 ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium
 Choice All
 Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies
 Plus
 and
 haven't opened/tried it yet.

 I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I
 used to
 use
 something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
 getting
 so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the  
 clumping
 clay -
 not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using
 regular
 litter and baking soda.

 Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to
 others
 I
 know who are using the clumping litter.

 Cindy

 - Original Message -
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
 To:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

 The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners
 Trust
 Most

 Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

 Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
 litter.
 Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our
 feline
 friends
 including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly  
 even
 lung
 cancer.

 Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help  
 with
 absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your  
 cat
 digs
 in
 the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's
 lungs and
 can
 wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in
 jeopardy.
 With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its
 lungs.
 Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

 Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet,
 is one
 of
 the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this
 clay to
 make
 their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural
 clay

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread MaiMaiPG

Totes are wonderful.  I leave the top off and the boys are young  
enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are  
wonderful too.  I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who,  
late in life, had issues getting positioned.  Besides the totes are a  
lot cheaper and more appropriately sized.  FYI:  They make great  
outdoor shelters too.

On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:



I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large  
however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I  
will try again (after deleting most of the original emails).  I have  
used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used  
to use it at their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd  
awful after they had used the box even once and even customers  
complained about the smell in the adoption center.  We had to go  
back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because  
people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was  
scooped on a regular basis.


For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large  
Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats  
can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from  
peeing over the side.  We also use a low dust litter.  So far, our  
cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up.


Edna



Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
From: athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop.  
It got

good online reviews.




On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle  
athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:


Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone  
used it

before?



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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread Susan Hoffman

I had the same experience with the feline Pine.  It smells like moldy wood to 
me.  Bought one bag and never again.

I think we may need to make a distinction between rescue households with a lot 
of cats and a constant parade of fosters coming and going and a household with 
just a few pet cats.  Mine is a rescue household and I have adopters coming too 
the house so I have to make sure it doesn't stink.  I've been using clumping 
litter for more than 10 years and we've never had a problem.  (When I fostered 
kittens though I used the old fashioned non-clumping clay litter because 
kittens have been known to try to eat litter.)



--- On Fri, 7/8/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:

 From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:57 PM
 
 I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too
 large however, I noticed that others have responded with no
 problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the
 original emails).  I have used Feline Pine at home
 before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at
 their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd
 awful after they had used the box even once and even
 customers complained about the smell in the adoption
 center.  We had to go back to scoopable in both places
 but especially at the store because people would not go in
 to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a
 regular basis.
  
 For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large
 Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end
 so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator
 b*tt peers from peeing over the side.  We also use a
 low dust litter.  So far, our cats have done well and
 most of our cats are 12 and up.
  
 Edna
  
 
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter,
 Sweat Scoop. It got
  good online reviews.
  
  
  
  
  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline
 Pine - has anyone used it
   before?
  
     
 
       
   
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 Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've used Feline Pine for years! It really controls the odor and have never 
experienced a cat that does not like it, but I'm sure there may be some out 
there that don't. But mine have no problem with it :)

- Original Message - 
From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it
before?

I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in my
town.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But I 
won't

switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

good to know, thanks for sharing!
- Original Message -
From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
 Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

 I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the
 switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any litter box
 odors.

 Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

 =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
 =^..^=
  - Original Message -
  From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just
  checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
  ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice 
 All
  Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies 
 Plus

 and
  haven't opened/tried it yet.

  I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to
 use
  something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
 getting
  so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping
 clay -
  not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using 
 regular

  litter and baking soda.

  Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to 
 others

 I
  know who are using the clumping litter.

  Cindy

  - Original Message -
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

   Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

   The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust
 Most

   Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

   Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
 litter.
   Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
   friends
   including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even
 lung
   cancer.

   Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
   absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat
 digs
   in
   the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs 
 and

 can
   wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in
 jeopardy.
   With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its
 lungs.
   Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

   Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is 
 one

 of
   the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay 
 to

 make
   their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural 
 clay

   ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not
 always
   safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and 
 forms

 a
   hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's
 stirring
   up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
   expands
   from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
   problems
   like the ones mentioned above.

   Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do
Not
   Let
   Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your
 cat
   from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your 
 cat

   from
   grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from 
 swatting

 and
   nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I don't buy the pellets. It was too hard on my cats feet. I buy the kind 
that is already turned into saw dustit works wonders.

- Original Message - 
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

There is 124 acres to put it on.  Poop gets pitched into unused 
fields--far from the house.  I can't see a difference between theirs  and 
that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey  etc. 
The pee turns the pellets into sawdust.  It may sound gross but  it really 
isn't

On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Natalie wrote:

You throw it outside?  Not the poop, though, do you?
I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the  pee!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I like it a lot.  My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural
thing for them.  I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it
around trees or compost it.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone
used it
before?

I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in
my
town.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Same here - I might try it on a very small group.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
Wilson
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But
I won't
switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!

good to know, thanks for sharing!
- Original Message -
From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this

I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making  the
switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any
litter box
odors.

Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori
and 6
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and  Sammi
=^..^=
- Original Message -
From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I
just
checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have  an
ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium
Choice All
Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies
Plus
and
haven't opened/tried it yet.

I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I
used to
use
something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
getting
so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the  clumping
clay -
not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using
regular
litter and baking soda.

Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to
others
I
know who are using the clumping litter.

Cindy

- Original Message -
From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!

The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners
Trust

Most

Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning

Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to

litter.

Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our
feline
friends
including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly  even

lung

cancer.

Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help  with
absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your  cat

digs

in
the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's
lungs and

can

wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in

jeopardy.

With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its

lungs.

Damage can occur in just a short period of time.

Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet,
is one

of

the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this
clay to

make

their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural
clay
ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not

always

safe. Here's the problem: When

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes in 
a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home in 
an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in 
our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as 
the cats.



- Original Message - 
From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =




I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, I 
noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again 
(after deleting most of the original emails).  I have used Feline Pine at 
home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their 
Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used 
the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the 
adoption center.  We had to go back to scoopable in both places but 
especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats 
due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.


For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid 
Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out 
and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side.  We 
also use a low dust litter.  So far, our cats have done well and most of 
our cats are 12 and up.


Edna



Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
From: athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It 
got

good online reviews.




On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle 
athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:


 Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used 
 it

 before?



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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

2011-07-08 Thread Edna Taylor


I agree Susan.  I think with a couple of cats, the wheat or pine would be great 
but when the numbers are constantly changing and you sometimes have a Mom with 
kittens in a bathroom, an older litter in another room and some adults in yet 
another room, you have to use what keeps the smell down :)  Due to fostering I 
have repainted the study 3 times and the guest bedroom twice.  HOW can kittens 
get poop 4 feet up a wall??? :)
 
Oh, best invention EVER for a foster household is a Lampe Berger (Winterwood is 
my fav oil).  If you don't have one, I HIGHLY recommend getting a couple.  They 
are pricey but S worth it.
 
http://www.lampeberger.us/lampe-berger-official-website-luxury-fragrances-for-the-home
 

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 15:09:47 -0700
 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 I had the same experience with the feline Pine. It smells like moldy wood to 
 me. Bought one bag and never again.
 
 I think we may need to make a distinction between rescue households with a 
 lot of cats and a constant parade of fosters coming and going and a household 
 with just a few pet cats. Mine is a rescue household and I have adopters 
 coming too the house so I have to make sure it doesn't stink. I've been using 
 clumping litter for more than 10 years and we've never had a problem. (When I 
 fostered kittens though I used the old fashioned non-clumping clay litter 
 because kittens have been known to try to eat litter.)
 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 7/8/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
 
  From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 2:57 PM
  
  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too
  large however, I noticed that others have responded with no
  problems so I will try again (after deleting most of the
  original emails).  I have used Feline Pine at home
  before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at
  their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd
  awful after they had used the box even once and even
  customers complained about the smell in the adoption
  center.  We had to go back to scoopable in both places
  but especially at the store because people would not go in
  to meet the cats due to the smell and it was scooped on a
  regular basis.
  
  For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large
  Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end
  so the cats can get in and out and it prevents our elevator
  b*tt peers from peeing over the side.  We also use a
  low dust litter.  So far, our cats have done well and
  most of our cats are 12 and up.
  
  Edna
  
  
   Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
   
   Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter,
  Sweat Scoop. It got
   good online reviews.
   
   
   
   
   On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle 
   athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
   
Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline
  Pine - has anyone used it
before?
   
 
  


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Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink!  Maybe he's too good to have smelly poop!  
His name is Sugar after all.
 
Just kidding.  I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop.  Geez, couldn't 
believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my first cat about 
6 or 7 years ago.
 
It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different kinds 
of litter.  I guess that's why there are so many choices.  It gets so confusing 
though.
 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 

 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes in 
 a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home in 
 an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in 
 our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as 
 the cats.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
 
  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, I 
  noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again 
  (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at 
  home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their 
  Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used 
  the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the 
  adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but 
  especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats 
  due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.
 
  For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid 
  Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out 
  and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We 
  also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of 
  our cats are 12 and up.
 
  Edna
 
 
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It 
  got
  good online reviews.
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle 
  athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used 
   it
   before?
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

You are right Maureen, I can almost compare it to walking down the cereal 
isle in the grocery store, lol! There are too many choices of cat litters 
but they are finicky, right?!  You may think that we are just used to the 
smell, but many of my friends are honest and outspoken. They say they can't 
tell I have cats, so I'm assuming they are being honest. Hopefully they 
really are! I don't want my house to smell like a ginormous litter box.


Sugar does not think his poop stinks, so why should I, right?! Lol!! He's a 
keeper!!



- Original Message - 
From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink!  Maybe he's too good to have smelly 
poop!  His name is Sugar after all.


Just kidding.  I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop.  Geez, 
couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my 
first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.


It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different 
kinds of litter.  I guess that's why there are so many choices.  It gets so 
confusing though.



“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark 
Twain




From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes 
in
a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home 
in

an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in
our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as
the cats.


- Original Message - 
From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



 I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, I
 noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again
 (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at
 home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their
 Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used
 the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the
 adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but
 especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats
 due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.

 For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid
 Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out
 and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We
 also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of
 our cats are 12 and up.

 Edna


 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
 From: athenapities...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It
 got
 good online reviews.




 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle
 athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:

  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used
  it
  before?
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it might 
smell.  But if they stay and visit for a while then you're probably good  ;-)   
Especially if you have friends that don't have pets, they can't tolerate the 
smell for long.  
 
I bet Sugar is something else.  I've got one that doesn't think her poop smells 
either.  Her name is Spaz and she lives up to it every day.
 
 
 


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:39:04 -0500
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 You are right Maureen, I can almost compare it to walking down the cereal 
 isle in the grocery store, lol! There are too many choices of cat litters 
 but they are finicky, right?! You may think that we are just used to the 
 smell, but many of my friends are honest and outspoken. They say they can't 
 tell I have cats, so I'm assuming they are being honest. Hopefully they 
 really are! I don't want my house to smell like a ginormous litter box.
 
 Sugar does not think his poop stinks, so why should I, right?! Lol!! He's a 
 keeper!!
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
 
 Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly 
 poop! His name is Sugar after all.
 
 Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez, 
 couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my 
 first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.
 
 It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different 
 kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so 
 confusing though.
 
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark 
 Twain
 
 
  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes 
  in
  a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home 
  in
  an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in
  our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as
  the cats.
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  
   I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, I
   noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again
   (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at
   home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their
   Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used
   the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the
   adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but
   especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats
   due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.
  
   For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid
   Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out
   and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We
   also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of
   our cats are 12 and up.
  
   Edna
  
  
   Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
   Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It
   got
   good online reviews.
  
  
  
  
   On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle
   athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
  
Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used
it
before?
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Are they called totes?
I use large Styrofoam containers to ship chemo to hospitals - a friend is an
oncology nurse practitioner and saves them for us. They're larger than
Styrofoam coolers, sturdier, and already insulated.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Totes are wonderful.  I leave the top off and the boys are young  
enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are  
wonderful too.  I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who,  
late in life, had issues getting positioned.  Besides the totes are a  
lot cheaper and more appropriately sized.  FYI:  They make great  
outdoor shelters too.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:

 I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large  
 however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I  
 will try again (after deleting most of the original emails).  I have  
 used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used  
 to use it at their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd  
 awful after they had used the box even once and even customers  
 complained about the smell in the adoption center.  We had to go  
 back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because  
 people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was  
 scooped on a regular basis.

 For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large  
 Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats  
 can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from  
 peeing over the side.  We also use a low dust litter.  So far, our  
 cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up.

 Edna

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
 From: athenapities...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop.  
 It got
 good online reviews.

 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle  
 athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone  
 used it
 before?

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We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her
poop: It could raise the dead!  It is so potent, that I wait at night until
she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
International smelliest poop contest!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink!  Maybe he's too good to have smelly
poop!  His name is Sugar after all.

Just kidding.  I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop.  Geez,
couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.

It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
kinds of litter.  I guess that's why there are so many choices.  It gets so
confusing though.

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes
in 
 a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home
in 
 an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in 
 our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as 
 the cats.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, I

  noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again 
  (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at

  home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their 
  Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used

  the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the 
  adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but 
  especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats 
  due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.

  For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid 
  Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out

  and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We 
  also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of 
  our cats are 12 and up.

  Edna

  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

  Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It 
  got
  good online reviews.

  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle 
  athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:

   Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used

   it
   before?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up in 
the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as soon 
as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find which 
litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I put 
everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat anymore 
anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door wide 
open to get the smell out.
 
He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard that it 
can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something else.  Do 
any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny poops?


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 

 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her
 poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until
 she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
 International smelliest poop contest!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
 Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
 poop! His name is Sugar after all.
 
 Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
 couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
 first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.
 
 It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
 kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so
 confusing though.
 
 
 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
 profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
 Twain
 
 
  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes
 in 
  a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home
 in 
  an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in 
  our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as 
  the cats.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  
  
   I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, I
 
   noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again 
   (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at
 
   home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their 
   Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used
 
   the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the 
   adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but 
   especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats 
   due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.
  
   For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid 
   Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out
 
   and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We 
   also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of 
   our cats are 12 and up.
  
   Edna
  
  
   Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
   Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It 
   got
   good online reviews.
  
  
  
  
   On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle 
   athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
  
Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used
 
it
before?
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Maureen, For the short time I had Crash, he had very loose stools and the 
fumes when he had a BM, could take the paint off the walls!  He had coccidia 
as you know when he was very young. Then he tested positive for FeLV. But 
before we knew this, my vet had put him on Royal Canin Feline High Energy 
Gastro-Intestinal (HE30) dry food and it worked well for him. His stools 
became formed but not near as stinky but still somewhat soft.  It was not 
perfect, but it certainly was an improvement.  See if this will work for 
yours as well.


Poop smells anyway, but when it practically takes the wallpaper/paint off, 
then you have to try something.  Good luck!


L
- Original Message - 
From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =



I doubt she could compete with my FIV + cat.  It has actually woken me up in 
the middle of the night.  It's really bad because he doesn't cover so as 
soon as I get the first whiff of it I drop everything and go running to find 
which litterbox he used and cover it immediately.  Even if I'm eating I put 
everything down and go take care of it.  It's not like I could eat anymore 
anyway!  Yuck.  Lots of times in the middle of winter I have my patio door 
wide open to get the smell out.


He's always had runny poop too.  Think it's cause of the FIV?  I heard that 
it can have that effect on them.  But then I wondered if it's something 
else.  Do any of you guys have FIV + cats that almost always have runny 
poops?



“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark 
Twain




Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:36:48 -0400
From: at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of 
her

poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until
she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
International smelliest poop contest!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink! Maybe he's too good to have smelly
poop! His name is Sugar after all.

Just kidding. I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop. Geez,
couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.

It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
kinds of litter. I guess that's why there are so many choices. It gets so
confusing though.


I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain


 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

 I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes
in
 a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at 
 home

in
 an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) 
 in
 our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well 
 as

 the cats.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com

 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


 
  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, 
  I


  noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try 
  again
  (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine 
  at


  home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their
  Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had 
  used


  the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the
  adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but
  especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the 
  cats

  due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.
 
  For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid
  Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and 
  out


  and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We
  also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most 
  of

  our cats are 12 and up.
 
  Edna
 
 
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I had tried Feline Pine, but it does not scoop very well, especially with Dee, 
she covers and covers again and ten again until she destroys the clumps.
I have been using World's Best Cat Litter.  You can find it at Petsmart or 
Tractor supply.  It is made fromcorn, clumps great (even with Dee doing her 
best to destroy the clumps) and holds down the odor.  With 7 cats, I use the 
Multi Ca formula.  If you want, you can add some baking soda or cedar to the 
litter.  Of course, I scoop the boxes 2 times a day and sometimes 3 times.  
Then you have Harley, who sometimes passes gas when he gets excited.  Get out 
the clothspins time then.  The best thing about World's Best, is that it is 
okay to put in the compost  or just pick a spot with lots of leaves, add a bit 
of sand and each day put the litter there and cover it.  Dung beetles, etc. 
will take care of the rest of it.  I do not have any smell around the house.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her
 poop: It could raise the dead!  It is so potent, that I wait at night until
 she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
 International smelliest poop contest!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
 Maybe your cat's poop doesn't stink!  Maybe he's too good to have smelly
 poop!  His name is Sugar after all.
  
 Just kidding.  I can't imagine any cat not having smelly poop.  Geez,
 couldn't believe the difference between my cat and my dog when I got my
 first cat about 6 or 7 years ago.
  
 It's funny how there are so many different experiences with the different
 kinds of litter.  I guess that's why there are so many choices.  It gets so
 confusing though.
  
  
 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
 profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
 Twain
  
 
  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:15:07 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  I've never heard of that problem, but then I don't keep the litter boxes
 in 
  a closed area like you would an adoption center. It's fine to use at home
 in 
  an open area. I have 3 litter boxes with Feline Pine (non-pellet form) in 
  our master bathroom. It actually controls the odors. I like it as well as 
  the cats.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  
  
   I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large however, I
 
   noticed that others have responded with no problems so I will try again 
   (after deleting most of the original emails). I have used Feline Pine at
 
   home before and the rescue group I am with used to use it at their 
   Petsmart adoptions. The smell (to me) was gawd awful after they had used
 
   the box even once and even customers complained about the smell in the 
   adoption center. We had to go back to scoopable in both places but 
   especially at the store because people would not go in to meet the cats 
   due to the smell and it was scooped on a regular basis.
  
   For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large Rubbermaid 
   Totes. Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats can get in and out
 
   and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from peeing over the side. We 
   also use a low dust litter. So far, our cats have done well and most of 
   our cats are 12 and up.
  
   Edna
  
  
   Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
   Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop. It 
   got
   good online reviews.
  
  
  
  
   On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle 
   athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
  
Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used
 
it
before?
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Styrofoam?  Harley and Dee would make hash out of them in no time.  If it 
resist the claws, it gets clawed to death.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Are they called totes?
 I use large Styrofoam containers to ship chemo to hospitals - a friend is an
 oncology nurse practitioner and saves them for us. They're larger than
 Styrofoam coolers, sturdier, and already insulated.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 6:08 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 Totes are wonderful.  I leave the top off and the boys are young  
 enough to jump in the 18 gallon totes and the lower larger ones are  
 wonderful too.  I figured this out when I had a wonderful boy who,  
 late in life, had issues getting positioned.  Besides the totes are a  
 lot cheaper and more appropriately sized.  FYI:  They make great  
 outdoor shelters too.
 On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor wrote:
 
 
  I tried to respond earlier but it bounced back as too large  
  however, I noticed that others have responded with no problems so I  
  will try again (after deleting most of the original emails).  I have  
  used Feline Pine at home before and the rescue group I am with used  
  to use it at their Petsmart adoptions.  The smell (to me) was gawd  
  awful after they had used the box even once and even customers  
  complained about the smell in the adoption center.  We had to go  
  back to scoopable in both places but especially at the store because  
  people would not go in to meet the cats due to the smell and it was  
  scooped on a regular basis.
 
  For our house, we have switched from hooded boxes to large  
  Rubbermaid Totes.  Frank cuts a large hole in one end so the cats  
  can get in and out and it prevents our elevator b*tt peers from  
  peeing over the side.  We also use a low dust litter.  So far, our  
  cats have done well and most of our cats are 12 and up.
 
  Edna
 
 
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:07:15 -0400
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  Oh - I just found a Petco version of the wheat litter, Sweat Scoop.  
  It got
  good online reviews.
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Katy Doyle  
  athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone  
  used it
  before?
 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I just have 25 acres nd I just walk down the grvel roa and into the woods a it. 
 I have never noticed any smell coming from the area I dump it in. It is made 
from ground up corn (World's Best Cat Litter) so the clumps break down in the  
rain and the dung beetles, etc take care of the rest of it.  My guys love it so 
I am sticking with it.  I tried the Feline Pine (pellets) and we wanted nothing 
to do with it.  Same with the Sweat.  Wehad more out of the box problems than 
ever.   
 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 There is 124 acres to put it on.  Poop gets pitched into unused  
 fields--far from the house.  I can't see a difference between theirs  
 and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey  
 etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust.  It may sound gross but  
 it really isn't
 
 On Jul 8, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Natalie wrote:
 
  You throw it outside?  Not the poop, though, do you?
  I can't imagine doing that with all my cat's doodoosor all the  
  pee!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:15 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  I like it a lot.  My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural
  thing for them.  I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it
  around trees or compost it.
  On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:
 
  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone
  used it
  before?
 
  I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in
  my
  town.
 
  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Same here - I might try it on a very small group.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda
  Wilson
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But
  I won't
  switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!
 
  good to know, thanks for sharing!
  - Original Message -
  From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
  Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this
 
  I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making  
  the
  switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any
  litter box
  odors.
 
  Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.
 
  =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori
  and 6
  furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and  
  Sammi
  =^..^=
  - Original Message -
  From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I
  just
  checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have  
  an
  ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium
  Choice All
  Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies
  Plus
  and
  haven't opened/tried it yet.
 
  I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I
  used to
  use
  something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
  getting
  so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the  
  clumping
  clay -
  not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using
  regular
  litter and baking soda.
 
  Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to
  others
  I
  know who are using the clumping litter.
 
  Cindy
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
  To:
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
 
  The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners
  Trust
  Most
 
  Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
 
  Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
  litter.
  Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our
  feline
  friends
  including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly  
  even
  lung
  cancer.
 
  Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help  
  with
  absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your  
  cat
  digs
  in
  the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's
  lungs and
  can
  wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

Go on their website, they should be able to tell you a store near you that 
carries it.


 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I like it a lot.  My boys came from a pine thicket so it was a natural  
 thing for them.  I can pitch the sawdust into the fields, use it  
 around trees or compost it.
 On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:
 
  Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone  
  used it
  before?
 
  I'd be interested in trying the ExquisiCat, but no stores sell it in  
  my
  town.
 
  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Same here - I might try it on a very small group.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda  
  Wilson
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:19 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
  I've seen that brand and have always wondered how cats like it. But  
  I won't
  switch unless they tell me they want a change, lol!
 
  good to know, thanks for sharing!
  - Original Message -
  From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Petsmart carries a wheat litter that is relatively inexpensive.
  Exquisicat Natural Wheat.  I'm transitioning to this
 
  I bought a bag for my FLUTD boy, and the gang seems to be making the
  switch well.  It's also scoopable, and I haven't noticed any  
  litter box
  odors.
 
  Maybe give this a try.  It's a little cheaper than Swheat Scoop.
 
  =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori  
  and 6
  furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
  =^..^=
  - Original Message -
  From: Cindy McHughmailto:ci...@furangels.org
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I  
  just
  checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an
  ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium  
  Choice All
  Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies  
  Plus
  and
  haven't opened/tried it yet.
 
  I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I  
  used to
  use
  something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was
  getting
  so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping
  clay -
  not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using  
  regular
  litter and baking soda.
 
  Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to  
  others
  I
  know who are using the clumping litter.
 
  Cindy
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.netmailto:at...@optonline.net
  To:  
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
 
  The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners  
  Trust
  Most
 
  Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
 
  Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to
  litter.
  Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our  
  feline
  friends
  including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even
  lung
  cancer.
 
  Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
  absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat
  digs
  in
  the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's  
  lungs and
  can
  wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in
  jeopardy.
  With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its
  lungs.
  Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
 
  Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet,  
  is one
  of
  the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this  
  clay to
  make
  their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural  
  clay
  ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not
  always
  safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and  
  forms
  a
  hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's
  stirring
  up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it
  expands
  from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung
  problems
  like the ones mentioned above.
 
  Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do
  Not
  Let
  Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop  
  your
  cat
  from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop  
  your cat
  from
  grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from  
  swatting

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

What about natural alternatives?  Try the Only Natural Pet store on line.  They 
have a great Chinese herbal that I used for Homey when she had her crystal 
problem.
 Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Oh - since you guys mentioned asthma I just wanted to throw out there that if 
 any of your kitties ever develop asthma there is a wonderful feline asthma 
 group.  The people on that list know more about it than a lot of vets because 
 it's not that common and they've had years of experience with it.  I have a 
 cat with asthma and with their help I got him on inhaled medications, same 
 kind that humans use, and it's wonderful and keeps his asthma under control.  
 Not nearly as hard on the body as prednisone or other steroids which is how 
 asthma in cats is usually controlled.  Lots of vets have not had experience 
 with using inhaled medications (Flovent) on cats so they either tell owners 
 to put their cats on prednisone or steriod shots for the rest of their life.  
 Or the vets that know about inhaled meds for cats will start them on the 
 lowest dosage of Flovent and then when it doesn't help the asthma the vet 
 thinks inhaled meds doesn't work for cats.  This asthma group is great and 
 can help get a kitty on the right dosage and give you lots of tips to get 
 them used to using the Aerokat to do the inhaled treatments.
  
 I also use an online pharmacy called 4 Corners which is located in New 
 Zealand, to get the meds.  It's one third of the cost as the drugs in the U.S.
  
 Anyway, just wanted you guys to know so if you ever need help with an asthma 
 kitty go straight to that group.  I don't know what I would have done without 
 them.  My vet knew about asthma and even gave me an Aerokat but she didn't 
 think it was easy to get a cat to take inhaled meds so she just recommended a 
 steroid shot every 6 weeks.  Thank God I found the group.
 
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  
 
  Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:51:15 -0400
  From: at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  That's because we assume that everything we buy must be safe for them!
  It's a shame that we have to be so suspicious of everything and question
  every bit of info!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:40 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  Wow... You know, the dusty clay litter gives me asthma attacks, I'm ashamed
  that I never thought of how it would affect my cats.
  
  On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Lynda Wilson
  longhornf...@verizon.netwrote:
  
   Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust.
   Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around.
   What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long
   time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps
   the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not
  Petco,
   they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as
  well,
   but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy.
  
   Thanks so much :)
   Lynda
  
   - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
  
  
   Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
  
   The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most
  
   Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
  
   Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
   Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline
   friends
   including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
   cancer.
  
   Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
   absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs
   in
   the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and
  can
   wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
   With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
   Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
  
   Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
   the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to
  make
   their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
   ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
   safe. Here's the problem: When this clay

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I have gotten very parinoid about everything made for pets.  Especially since I 
found that my guys were upchucking all the time because of the corn, wheat or 
soy in their food (Science Diet).  I switched to Blue Buffalo Duck and no more 
upchucks except for Casey when I forget to give her additional hairball meds.  
She has long Persian like fur, very silky, fine and she is a meticulous groomer.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 We get our litter at Walmart - cheapest there, even though we get a discount
 at PetSmart.
 The problem is that they are still pushing and selling all kinds of clumping
 litter as if it were something special for your beloved cats!
 My husband bought a small fabric toy for the cats, and I decided to read the
 label: It said to be careful, make sure that cats don't tear the fabric and
 eat the contents because it could cause serious injury or death! Mad in
 China, and who oversees the safety of things coming in?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:33 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. 
 Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. 
 What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long 
 time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps 
 the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco,
 
 they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well,
 
 but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy.
 
 Thanks so much :)
 Lynda
 - Original Message - 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
 
  The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most
 
  Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
 
  Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
  Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
  friends
  including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
  cancer.
 
  Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
  absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs 
  in
  the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
  wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
  With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
  Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
 
  Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
  the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
  their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
  ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
  safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
  hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
  up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
  expands
  from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
  problems
  like the ones mentioned above.
 
  Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
  Let
  Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
  from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
  from
  grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
  nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
  the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
  cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form
 
  a
  hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.
 
  The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
  litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
  dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
  simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
  non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
  recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
  pet.
  You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
  you're
  worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
  litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
  instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
  has a filter for odor control.
 
  Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
  litter, hope you will pass this information

Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 We get our litter at Walmart - cheapest there, even though we get a discount
 at PetSmart.
 The problem is that they are still pushing and selling all kinds of clumping
 litter as if it were something special for your beloved cats!
 My husband bought a small fabric toy for the cats, and I decided to read the
 label: It said to be careful, make sure that cats don't tear the fabric and
 eat the contents because it could cause serious injury or death! 
Mad in
 China, and who oversees the safety of things coming in?  AT TIMES, I 
 THINK NO ONE IS CHECKING.  I JUST DO NOT TRUST ANYONE SO I READ LABELS ON 
 EVERYTHING.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:33 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 Thanks, Natalie. I've never used clay litter or anything that makes dust. 
 Can you imagine being enclosed in a box with all that dust flying around. 
 What were they thinking back in the day?! I've used Feline Pine for a long 
 time and all my cats through the years have all accepted it. It sure keeps 
 the smell down as well. The cheapest place to get it it Petsmart (not Petco,
 
 they are extremely higher for some reason). It last for a long time as well,
 
 but like I said, I dump it just to keep Sugar happy.
 
 Thanks so much :)
 Lynda
 - Original Message - 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:36 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
 
  The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most
 
  Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
 
  Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
  Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
  friends
  including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
  cancer.
 
  Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
  absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs 
  in
  the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
  wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
  With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
  Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
 
  Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
  the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
  their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
  ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
  safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
  hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
  up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
  expands
  from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
  problems
  like the ones mentioned above.
 
  Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
  Let
  Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
  from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
  from
  grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
  nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
  the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
  cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form
 
  a
  hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.
 
  The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
  litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
  dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
  simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
  non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
  recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
  pet.
  You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
  you're
  worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
  litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
  instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
  has a filter for odor control.
 
  Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
  litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
  saving the health or life of an animal.
 
 
 
 
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  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =

I fond the Arm  Hammer to be extremely dusty, also a litter that said it was 
made from desert sand.  Krger carried it.  I got one box and tried it in one of 
the boxes.  Threw it out the next day.  The cats and I were sneezing and I 
found a fine coat of dust all over my room.

 Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote: 
 Oh my goodness! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I just 
 checked both types of litter I have in the house and neither have an 
 ingredient label. One is Fresh Step and the other is Premium Choice All 
 Natural Unscented. I just found the Premium Choice at Pet Supplies Plus and 
 haven't opened/tried it yet.
 
 I tried Feline Pine previously, but the cats didn't like it. I used to use 
 something by Arm  Hammer that was almost like saw dust, but it was getting 
 so expensive as I took in more cats that I went back to the clumping clay - 
 not realizing the risks. I'll try the method you described using regular 
 litter and baking soda.
 
 Thanks again for sharing this info. I'll be sure to pass it on to others I 
 know who are using the clumping litter.
 
 Cindy
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:36 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =
 
 
  Here's more, and this is just the tip of the iceberg!
 
  The #1 Authority On Pet Products, Care and Services Pet Owners Trust Most
 
  Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
 
  Vets have been reporting more and more kitty illnesses related to litter.
  Certain litters are actually causing serious problems for our feline 
  friends
  including asthma, bronchitis, intestinal blockage and possibly even lung
  cancer.
 
  Most litters are loaded with chemicals to reduce odor and help with
  absorption. These chemicals are released into the air when your cat digs 
  in
  the litter box. The dust from the litter gets into the cat's lungs and can
  wreak havoc on its immune system, putting his or her health in jeopardy.
  With every visit to the litter box, your cat may be polluting its lungs.
  Damage can occur in just a short period of time.
 
  Clumping clay litter, which forms a hard ball when it gets wet, is one of
  the most harmful types on the market. Several brands use this clay to make
  their litter easier to scoop. What makes it clump? It's a natural clay
  ingredient called sodium bentonite. In this case, natural is not always
  safe. Here's the problem: When this clay gets wet it expands and forms a
  hard mass. So when your cat or kitten digs in the litter box it's stirring
  up clay dust and breathing it in. Once it gets into their lungs, it 
  expands
  from the moisture, and in time builds up, causing all sorts of lung 
  problems
  like the ones mentioned above.
 
  Some clumping litters actually post a warning right on the bag; Do Not 
  Let
  Cat Ingest Litter. It is ridiculous to think that you can stop your cat
  from breathing while visiting the litter box .You cannot stop your cat 
  from
  grooming itself with its tongue or stop your new kitten from swatting and
  nibbling on the litter. Anything their tongue contacts gets ingested. Once
  the clay litter is inside the cat or kitten and expands, it not only could
  cause dehydration by absorbing all the body's moisture, it could also form 
  a
  hard mass in the intestines over a period of time, which could be fatal.
 
  The problem of health difficulties and even deaths resulting from clumping
  litters extend far beyond cats and kittens to ferrets, rabbits, and even
  dogs that raid litter boxes. So what can you do? The solution is easy,
  simple and inexpensive. Switch to a biodegradable, dust and clay free,
  non-clumping litter. Many of these biodegradable litters are made from
  recycled paper, which will help to save the environment as well as your 
  pet.
  You can find these products almost anywhere, just read the label. If 
  you're
  worried about odor, sprinkle a small amount of baking soda in with the
  litter. It works better than litter deodorizers that just cover up odors
  instead of absorbing them. You can also find a litter box with a top that
  has a filter for odor control.
 
  Now that you know some of the dangers and their solutions regarding kitty
  litter, hope you will pass this information on to a friend. You could be
  saving the health or life of an animal.
 
 
 
 
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  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] Clumping litter =