Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

[Amani Oakley]

Yep - still plugging along. Good to hear you're okay too.

Amani

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Sent: May 18, 2021 6:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

Hello Amani,

It has been a while.  Glad to know you survived the "pandemic".  All is well 
here despite having 2 FELV positive cats.  It did not spread to others.  I lost 
one Homey to Hyper thyroid at age 13.  Everyone else has passed from old age at 
18+.
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From: Amani Oakley 
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Sent: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:44:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

Pamela

First, I have kept FeLV positive cats with other cats and never ever had a 
transfer of the infection. Like you, we didn’t know and the kitten we took in 
only tested positive when he was a little under a year old. He had been mixing 
with our other cats for at least ten months - same food and water bowls, 
sleeping together, etc. I think your primary vet is correct. Keep Toby.

With respect to the FeLV, treat with Winstrol + Doxycycline + Prednisone. Our 
FeLV cat lived to almost 8 years old, and died from a heart condition. The 
heart condition might have been related to the damage done by the virus, or 
not, but in any event, he greatly outlived all predictions. We were repeatedly 
told to put him down when he was one, and I just refused.

Your cat doesn’t seem to be in crisis and it might be best to start him now on 
1 mg Winstrol (stanozolol) twice a day plus 50 mg of Doxycycline a day. Our cat 
was in crisis and almost died when I stumbled upon the effectiveness of 
Winstrol to help the body produce red cells and stimulate the bone marrow, so 
after trying just about everything else I could find on the Internet, with 
nothing working, and after giving him 2 blood transfusions, I had run out of 
options. I tried Stanozolol, which I happened to have at home for another cat, 
thinking at best it would make him feel better and increase his appetite. I was 
absolutely shocked when his hematocrit immediately (and I mean within days) 
began to climb for the first time in a year of ordeals. We were testing him 
weekly so I knew exactly what his haematology was showing before the Stanozolol 
and what happened to his red cells, reticulocytes, and platelets (all of which 
were very very very low) after we gave him the Winstrol.

You will have a devil of a time getting Winstrol and your vets are likely not 
going to believe you. I hope you have a friendly vet who can assist.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Pamela 
Olkowski
Sent: May 18, 2021 2:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to felv

I am a cat owner my whole life and have no idea about felv. I need help as we 
have no idea what to expect and my apologies for the long history below. Any 
comments are greatly appreciated 

After losing 3 adult cats in a year to rare cancers, we were left with a single 
18 month old. We adopted another kitten from a rescue in December when he was 4 
months. He was rescued with his mother from a NM shelter and both tested 
negative for felv/fiv. The foster home kept him about a month after he was 
neutered and routine immunizations and deworming were completed

When having him checked at my general vet, she noted he had enlarged lymph 
nodes that did no subside even after teething was over. Otherwise Toby was 
fine. Many tests later he turned up positive for felv on both Elisa and IFA.  
We brought him to an internal specialist who also said Toby  has the antibody 
for bartonella and we started a month of antibiotics. His lymph nodes have 
decreased and we will check this week if the second round of antibiotics have 
decreased further. (14 days on veraflox and 21 days on doxycycline) No other 
medical issues with Toby who is now 9 months old

We were devastated the specialty vet told us we had to re home Toby to keep our 
other young cat safe. Our primary vet felt since the other cat was exposed for 
over 3 months and was now negative and vaccinated the risk was low.  We kept 
both but have separate feeding stations but struggling to keep separate water 

Does anyone have experience keeping these - and + together?  Since Toby IFA was 
positive yet still asymptomatic except enlarged lymph, is there any way to know 
if he will decline quickly?  The internal medicine specialist was very 
pessimistic said they rarely live beyond 2 years post diagnosis.  Toby’s mother 
and siblings are still negative per the rescue group so I was hoping for a 
miracle the IFA is wrong, is that possible? Can bartonella skew results ?

Thank you so much 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

[dlg...@windstream.net]

Hello Amani,

It has been a while.  Glad to know you survived the "pandemic".  All is well 
here despite having 2 FELV positive cats.  It did not spread to others.  I lost 
one Homey to Hyper thyroid at age 13.  Everyone else has passed from old age at 
18+.
- Original Message -
From: Amani Oakley 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:44:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

Pamela

First, I have kept FeLV positive cats with other cats and never ever had a 
transfer of the infection. Like you, we didn’t know and the kitten we took in 
only tested positive when he was a little under a year old. He had been mixing 
with our other cats for at least ten months - same food and water bowls, 
sleeping together, etc. I think your primary vet is correct. Keep Toby.

With respect to the FeLV, treat with Winstrol + Doxycycline + Prednisone. Our 
FeLV cat lived to almost 8 years old, and died from a heart condition. The 
heart condition might have been related to the damage done by the virus, or 
not, but in any event, he greatly outlived all predictions. We were repeatedly 
told to put him down when he was one, and I just refused.

Your cat doesn’t seem to be in crisis and it might be best to start him now on 
1 mg Winstrol (stanozolol) twice a day plus 50 mg of Doxycycline a day. Our cat 
was in crisis and almost died when I stumbled upon the effectiveness of 
Winstrol to help the body produce red cells and stimulate the bone marrow, so 
after trying just about everything else I could find on the Internet, with 
nothing working, and after giving him 2 blood transfusions, I had run out of 
options. I tried Stanozolol, which I happened to have at home for another cat, 
thinking at best it would make him feel better and increase his appetite. I was 
absolutely shocked when his hematocrit immediately (and I mean within days) 
began to climb for the first time in a year of ordeals. We were testing him 
weekly so I knew exactly what his haematology was showing before the Stanozolol 
and what happened to his red cells, reticulocytes, and platelets (all of which 
were very very very low) after we gave him the Winstrol.

You will have a devil of a time getting Winstrol and your vets are likely not 
going to believe you. I hope you have a friendly vet who can assist.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Pamela 
Olkowski
Sent: May 18, 2021 2:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to felv

I am a cat owner my whole life and have no idea about felv. I need help as we 
have no idea what to expect and my apologies for the long history below. Any 
comments are greatly appreciated 

After losing 3 adult cats in a year to rare cancers, we were left with a single 
18 month old. We adopted another kitten from a rescue in December when he was 4 
months. He was rescued with his mother from a NM shelter and both tested 
negative for felv/fiv. The foster home kept him about a month after he was 
neutered and routine immunizations and deworming were completed

When having him checked at my general vet, she noted he had enlarged lymph 
nodes that did no subside even after teething was over. Otherwise Toby was 
fine. Many tests later he turned up positive for felv on both Elisa and IFA.  
We brought him to an internal specialist who also said Toby  has the antibody 
for bartonella and we started a month of antibiotics. His lymph nodes have 
decreased and we will check this week if the second round of antibiotics have 
decreased further. (14 days on veraflox and 21 days on doxycycline) No other 
medical issues with Toby who is now 9 months old

We were devastated the specialty vet told us we had to re home Toby to keep our 
other young cat safe. Our primary vet felt since the other cat was exposed for 
over 3 months and was now negative and vaccinated the risk was low.  We kept 
both but have separate feeding stations but struggling to keep separate water 

Does anyone have experience keeping these - and + together?  Since Toby IFA was 
positive yet still asymptomatic except enlarged lymph, is there any way to know 
if he will decline quickly?  The internal medicine specialist was very 
pessimistic said they rarely live beyond 2 years post diagnosis.  Toby’s mother 
and siblings are still negative per the rescue group so I was hoping for a 
miracle the IFA is wrong, is that possible? Can bartonella skew results ?

Thank you so much 

 

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[Felvtalk] New to felv

[Pamela Olkowski]

I am a cat owner my whole life and have no idea about felv. I need help as we 
have no idea what to expect and my apologies for the long history below. Any 
comments are greatly appreciated 

After losing 3 adult cats in a year to rare cancers, we were left with a single 
18 month old. We adopted another kitten from a rescue in December when he was 4 
months. He was rescued with his mother from a NM shelter and both tested 
negative for felv/fiv. The foster home kept him about a month after he was 
neutered and routine immunizations and deworming were completed

When having him checked at my general vet, she noted he had enlarged lymph 
nodes that did no subside even after teething was over. Otherwise Toby was 
fine. Many tests later he turned up positive for felv on both Elisa and IFA.  
We brought him to an internal specialist who also said Toby  has the antibody 
for bartonella and we started a month of antibiotics. His lymph nodes have 
decreased and we will check this week if the second round of antibiotics have 
decreased further. (14 days on veraflox and 21 days on doxycycline) No other 
medical issues with Toby who is now 9 months old

We were devastated the specialty vet told us we had to re home Toby to keep our 
other young cat safe. Our primary vet felt since the other cat was exposed for 
over 3 months and was now negative and vaccinated the risk was low.  We kept 
both but have separate feeding stations but struggling to keep separate water 

Does anyone have experience keeping these - and + together?  Since Toby IFA was 
positive yet still asymptomatic except enlarged lymph, is there any way to know 
if he will decline quickly?  The internal medicine specialist was very 
pessimistic said they rarely live beyond 2 years post diagnosis.  Toby’s mother 
and siblings are still negative per the rescue group so I was hoping for a 
miracle the IFA is wrong, is that possible? Can bartonella skew results ?

Thank you so much 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to felv

[Amani Oakley]

Pamela

First, I have kept FeLV positive cats with other cats and never ever had a 
transfer of the infection. Like you, we didn’t know and the kitten we took in 
only tested positive when he was a little under a year old. He had been mixing 
with our other cats for at least ten months - same food and water bowls, 
sleeping together, etc. I think your primary vet is correct. Keep Toby.

With respect to the FeLV, treat with Winstrol + Doxycycline + Prednisone. Our 
FeLV cat lived to almost 8 years old, and died from a heart condition. The 
heart condition might have been related to the damage done by the virus, or 
not, but in any event, he greatly outlived all predictions. We were repeatedly 
told to put him down when he was one, and I just refused.

Your cat doesn’t seem to be in crisis and it might be best to start him now on 
1 mg Winstrol (stanozolol) twice a day plus 50 mg of Doxycycline a day. Our cat 
was in crisis and almost died when I stumbled upon the effectiveness of 
Winstrol to help the body produce red cells and stimulate the bone marrow, so 
after trying just about everything else I could find on the Internet, with 
nothing working, and after giving him 2 blood transfusions, I had run out of 
options. I tried Stanozolol, which I happened to have at home for another cat, 
thinking at best it would make him feel better and increase his appetite. I was 
absolutely shocked when his hematocrit immediately (and I mean within days) 
began to climb for the first time in a year of ordeals. We were testing him 
weekly so I knew exactly what his haematology was showing before the Stanozolol 
and what happened to his red cells, reticulocytes, and platelets (all of which 
were very very very low) after we gave him the Winstrol.

You will have a devil of a time getting Winstrol and your vets are likely not 
going to believe you. I hope you have a friendly vet who can assist.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Pamela 
Olkowski
Sent: May 18, 2021 2:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to felv

I am a cat owner my whole life and have no idea about felv. I need help as we 
have no idea what to expect and my apologies for the long history below. Any 
comments are greatly appreciated 

After losing 3 adult cats in a year to rare cancers, we were left with a single 
18 month old. We adopted another kitten from a rescue in December when he was 4 
months. He was rescued with his mother from a NM shelter and both tested 
negative for felv/fiv. The foster home kept him about a month after he was 
neutered and routine immunizations and deworming were completed

When having him checked at my general vet, she noted he had enlarged lymph 
nodes that did no subside even after teething was over. Otherwise Toby was 
fine. Many tests later he turned up positive for felv on both Elisa and IFA.  
We brought him to an internal specialist who also said Toby  has the antibody 
for bartonella and we started a month of antibiotics. His lymph nodes have 
decreased and we will check this week if the second round of antibiotics have 
decreased further. (14 days on veraflox and 21 days on doxycycline) No other 
medical issues with Toby who is now 9 months old

We were devastated the specialty vet told us we had to re home Toby to keep our 
other young cat safe. Our primary vet felt since the other cat was exposed for 
over 3 months and was now negative and vaccinated the risk was low.  We kept 
both but have separate feeding stations but struggling to keep separate water 

Does anyone have experience keeping these - and + together?  Since Toby IFA was 
positive yet still asymptomatic except enlarged lymph, is there any way to know 
if he will decline quickly?  The internal medicine specialist was very 
pessimistic said they rarely live beyond 2 years post diagnosis.  Toby’s mother 
and siblings are still negative per the rescue group so I was hoping for a 
miracle the IFA is wrong, is that possible? Can bartonella skew results ?

Thank you so much 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Kristy - that's great about the blood work. However, don’t let it make you 
complacent. If she tested FeLV positive, and she is such a wee kitten, with all 
kinds of other problems, if it were me, I would want to get ahead of the 
problem. Also, as I've mentioned, the Stanozolol seems to be helpful for other 
conditions, and it also makes them feel better and improves their appetite and 
overall outlook on life.

Please let us know how things go. We're all praying for your little kitten and 
thank you for having such a good heart.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Kristy
Sent: June 3, 2019 10:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

Hi Amani!

Thanks for your help!

As far as I know his bloodwork came back normal other than the fever. 

I will talk to my vet about the meds you suggested. Unfortunately the two vets 
I have taken him haven’t really been forthcoming with treatment options. 

My husband is taking him back to the vet on Friday since we can’t seem to get 
the diarrhea/bloating under control. 

Have a great day!
Kristy

> On May 31, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kristy
> 
> The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found to treat 
> a FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and Stanozolol. I 
> don’t know if you have run blood work to determine the haematocrit/red cell 
> levels, but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually because the red cells 
> are not being replenished by the infected bone marrow (which normally 
> produces new red cells) and the cat becomes severely anaemic. Other cell 
> lines in the blood soon follow (white cells and platelets) because the 
> progenitor cells which produce those blood cell lines are also found in the 
> infected bone marrow (which is attacked by the virus). The reticulocyte 
> count, which is a measure of new red cells being produced by the bone marrow, 
> is very low or even zero (which it was with my cat).
> 
> I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment. My 
> kitten was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination therapy, 
> and it was the only thing that worked to reverse the severe anaemia. I had 
> tried three other treatments, while doing weekly blood testing, and none of 
> the other treatments (Interferon, LTCI and Immunoregulin) budged his results 
> upwards by even a single point, though I had used each treatment for weeks if 
> not months in looking for an effective treatment.
> 
> If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least in 
> addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere with 
> cell wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I would get 
> started on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline right away. 
> You might want to test the blood work to get a baseline first, but given that 
> your kitten is not currently in crisis, that may not be entirely necessary.
> 
> With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had identified 
> that there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed that the 
> walls of the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's case, the 
> intestines were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for a long time. 
> I used metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet before each meal) 
> to keep everything moving along, because my cat was eating and then throwing 
> up. Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach contents and moving stool 
> out of the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might consider trying the 
> metoclopramide to see if it will help with the bloating and gas.
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Kristy
> Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
> 
> Hi!
> 
> My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up outside our 
> house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so we had to 
> keep Fergus (kitty’s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of our house. 
> 
> He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea (softer 
> stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a positive kitty. 
> 
> He’s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a fever. 
> He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the 
> bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We’ve tried figuring out if he 
> had an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we’ve done has changed 
> his bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet visit and 
> there were no masses or obstructions. 
> 
> Is this possibly a symptom o

Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

[Kristy]

Hi Amani!

Thanks for your help!

As far as I know his bloodwork came back normal other than the fever. 

I will talk to my vet about the meds you suggested. Unfortunately the two vets 
I have taken him haven’t really been forthcoming with treatment options. 

My husband is taking him back to the vet on Friday since we can’t seem to get 
the diarrhea/bloating under control. 

Have a great day!
Kristy

> On May 31, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kristy
> 
> The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found to treat 
> a FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and Stanozolol. I 
> don’t know if you have run blood work to determine the haematocrit/red cell 
> levels, but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually because the red cells 
> are not being replenished by the infected bone marrow (which normally 
> produces new red cells) and the cat becomes severely anaemic. Other cell 
> lines in the blood soon follow (white cells and platelets) because the 
> progenitor cells which produce those blood cell lines are also found in the 
> infected bone marrow (which is attacked by the virus). The reticulocyte 
> count, which is a measure of new red cells being produced by the bone marrow, 
> is very low or even zero (which it was with my cat).
> 
> I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment. My 
> kitten was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination therapy, 
> and it was the only thing that worked to reverse the severe anaemia. I had 
> tried three other treatments, while doing weekly blood testing, and none of 
> the other treatments (Interferon, LTCI and Immunoregulin) budged his results 
> upwards by even a single point, though I had used each treatment for weeks if 
> not months in looking for an effective treatment.
> 
> If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least in 
> addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere with 
> cell wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I would get 
> started on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline right away. 
> You might want to test the blood work to get a baseline first, but given that 
> your kitten is not currently in crisis, that may not be entirely necessary.
> 
> With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had identified 
> that there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed that the 
> walls of the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's case, the 
> intestines were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for a long time. 
> I used metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet before each meal) 
> to keep everything moving along, because my cat was eating and then throwing 
> up. Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach contents and moving stool 
> out of the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might consider trying the 
> metoclopramide to see if it will help with the bloating and gas.
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Kristy
> Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
> 
> Hi!
> 
> My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up outside our 
> house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so we had to 
> keep Fergus (kitty’s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of our house. 
> 
> He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea (softer 
> stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a positive kitty. 
> 
> He’s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a fever. 
> He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the 
> bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We’ve tried figuring out if he 
> had an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we’ve done has changed 
> his bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet visit and 
> there were no masses or obstructions. 
> 
> Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V?  What sort of stuff should we be 
> looking for?
> 
> He’s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband’s baby!  How can we help this 
> kitty?
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide!
> Kristy
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Kristy

The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found to treat a 
FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and Stanozolol. I don’t 
know if you have run blood work to determine the haematocrit/red cell levels, 
but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually because the red cells are not 
being replenished by the infected bone marrow (which normally produces new red 
cells) and the cat becomes severely anaemic. Other cell lines in the blood soon 
follow (white cells and platelets) because the progenitor cells which produce 
those blood cell lines are also found in the infected bone marrow (which is 
attacked by the virus). The reticulocyte count, which is a measure of new red 
cells being produced by the bone marrow, is very low or even zero (which it was 
with my cat).

I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment. My kitten 
was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination therapy, and it was 
the only thing that worked to reverse the severe anaemia. I had tried three 
other treatments, while doing weekly blood testing, and none of the other 
treatments (Interferon, LTCI and Immunoregulin) budged his results upwards by 
even a single point, though I had used each treatment for weeks if not months 
in looking for an effective treatment.

If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least in 
addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere with cell 
wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I would get started 
on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline right away. You might 
want to test the blood work to get a baseline first, but given that your kitten 
is not currently in crisis, that may not be entirely necessary.

With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had identified that 
there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed that the walls of 
the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's case, the intestines 
were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for a long time. I used 
metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet before each meal) to keep 
everything moving along, because my cat was eating and then throwing up. 
Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach contents and moving stool out of 
the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might consider trying the metoclopramide to 
see if it will help with the bloating and gas.

Amani



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Kristy
Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

Hi!

My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up outside our 
house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so we had to keep 
Fergus (kitty’s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of our house. 

He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea (softer 
stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a positive kitty. 

He’s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a fever. 
He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the 
bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We’ve tried figuring out if he had 
an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we’ve done has changed his 
bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet visit and there 
were no masses or obstructions. 

Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V?  What sort of stuff should we be 
looking for?

He’s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband’s baby!  How can we help this 
kitty?

Thanks for any help you can provide!
Kristy

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[Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty

[Kristy]

Hi!

My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up outside our 
house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so we had to keep 
Fergus (kitty’s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of our house. 

He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea (softer 
stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a positive kitty. 

He’s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a fever. 
He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the 
bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We’ve tried figuring out if he had 
an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we’ve done has changed his 
bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet visit and there 
were no masses or obstructions. 

Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V?  What sort of stuff should we be 
looking for?

He’s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband’s baby!  How can we help this 
kitty?

Thanks for any help you can provide!
Kristy

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Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Amani Oakley]

As I mentioned, Sheri, I will dab baby food on their mouths - on their upper 
lip even – beneath their noses. They will usually automatically lick that off. 
Sometimes that encourages them to eat a bit more because the pureed baby food 
is easy to lick up, high in protein and vitamins, and very easy on the 
digestive tract.


Amani


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 10:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


I've struggled with Mo since he came home, literally, the only thing he will 
eat on his own is the Temptations treats. I count them so I know he's gotten 
more than his basic needs every day but he's never bowled us over with his 
appetite, even on mirzapine (definitely misspelled that). He will lick the gel 
off his feet still, I feel lucky to have found anything he likes but a bit 
stuck as he won't try anything else!

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 5:30 PM Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by 
syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent on 
getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is usually 
palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on their lips or 
just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you or in your lap (my 
preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or on their mouth. I 
think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The Winstrol will often also help 
improve appetite, strength and a sense of feeling better so that they want to 
eat a bit more.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding on 
the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days of the 
Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want to check 
too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon if it's not 
helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the high 
calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a day. I was 
syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that unless he won't eat 
at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in healthcare 
and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this makes sense. I just 
hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

I 

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Sheri Burbridge]

I've struggled with Mo since he came home, literally, the only thing he
will eat on his own is the Temptations treats. I count them so I know he's
gotten more than his basic needs every day but he's never bowled us over
with his appetite, even on mirzapine (definitely misspelled that). He will
lick the gel off his feet still, I feel lucky to have found anything he
likes but a bit stuck as he won't try anything else!

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 5:30 PM Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

> Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by
> syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent
> on getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is
> usually palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on
> their lips or just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you
> or in your lap (my preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or
> on their mouth. I think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The
> Winstrol will often also help improve appetite, strength and a sense of
> feeling better so that they want to eat a bit more.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sheri Burbridge
> *Sent:* April-05-17 3:22 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
>
>
>
> Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while
> adding on the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for
> 60 days of the Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I
> don't want to check too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all
> too soon if it's not helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was
> nonexistent last week.
>
> I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the
> high calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a
> day. I was syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that
> unless he won't eat at all.
>
> I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in
> healthcare and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this
> makes sense. I just hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body
> to recover.
>
> Sheri
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sheri
>
>
>
> As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with
> the Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is
> at least worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good
> that you have a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you
> to know if he is moving the right direction on the meds.
>
>
>
> 10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had
> dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with
> a blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the
> Winstrol, it was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more
> than giving a temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2
> nd transfusion, but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of
> blood because he had had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that
> was it for being able to give him any more transfusions. I had watched for
> two months as his haematocrit dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite
> trying all sorts of other options like Interferon and LTCI.
>
>
>
> I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and
> within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his
> weekly blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it
> rose steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal
> reference range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost
> 10 months of treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol,
> his haematocrit and red cells would fall again.
>
>
>
> I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as
> well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run
> a reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he
> is producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte
> count was basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost
> immediately.
>
>
>
> I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to
> get the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the
> GI tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and
> stool moves very slowly through the GI tract,

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Amani Oakley]

Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by 
syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent on 
getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is usually 
palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on their lips or 
just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you or in your lap (my 
preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or on their mouth. I 
think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The Winstrol will often also help 
improve appetite, strength and a sense of feeling better so that they want to 
eat a bit more.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding on 
the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days of the 
Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want to check 
too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon if it's not 
helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the high 
calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a day. I was 
syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that unless he won't eat 
at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in healthcare 
and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this makes sense. I just 
hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to get 
the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the GI 
tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and stool 
moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s malaise, and 
reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to develop in the 
intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a long time). The 
apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI tract, pushing food 
down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since he was also vomiting all 
the time (including after I would spend an hour getting him to eat or syringe 
feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide is given a little bit before 
feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I started giving it to him, the 
vomiting stopped and stool started coming out of him normally.

Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how advanced 
the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also information 
online that they have identified a number of strains of the FeLV virus. I 
suspect that thi

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Sheri Burbridge]

Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding
on the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days
of the Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want
to check too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon
if it's not helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent
last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the
high calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a
day. I was syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that
unless he won't eat at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in
healthcare and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this
makes sense. I just hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body
to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

> Hi Sheri
>
>
>
> As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with
> the Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is
> at least worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good
> that you have a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you
> to know if he is moving the right direction on the meds.
>
>
>
> 10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had
> dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with
> a blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the
> Winstrol, it was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more
> than giving a temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2
> nd transfusion, but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of
> blood because he had had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that
> was it for being able to give him any more transfusions. I had watched for
> two months as his haematocrit dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite
> trying all sorts of other options like Interferon and LTCI.
>
>
>
> I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and
> within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his
> weekly blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it
> rose steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal
> reference range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost
> 10 months of treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol,
> his haematocrit and red cells would fall again.
>
>
>
> I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as
> well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run
> a reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he
> is producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte
> count was basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost
> immediately.
>
>
>
> I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to
> get the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the
> GI tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and
> stool moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s
> malaise, and reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to
> develop in the intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a
> long time). The apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI
> tract, pushing food down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since
> he was also vomiting all the time (including after I would spend an hour
> getting him to eat or syringe feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide
> is given a little bit before feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I
> started giving it to him, the vomiting stopped and stool started coming out
> of him normally.
>
>
>
> Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how
> advanced the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also
> information online that they have identified a number of strains of the
> FeLV virus. I suspect that this might also account for the fact that some
> of us see a great improvement in our cats, while others don’t. I’m crossing
> my fingers for you and I am very happy that you have a supportive vet. That
> is often the first big problem, so thankfully, this isn’t an issue you must
> also deal with.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sheri Burbridge
> *Sent:* April-05-17 1:29 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
>
>
>
> Hi everyone! I just joine

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to get 
the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the GI 
tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and stool 
moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s malaise, and 
reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to develop in the 
intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a long time). The 
apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI tract, pushing food 
down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since he was also vomiting all 
the time (including after I would spend an hour getting him to eat or syringe 
feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide is given a little bit before 
feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I started giving it to him, the 
vomiting stopped and stool started coming out of him normally.

Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how advanced 
the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also information 
online that they have identified a number of strains of the FeLV virus. I 
suspect that this might also account for the fact that some of us see a great 
improvement in our cats, while others don’t. I’m crossing my fingers for you 
and I am very happy that you have a supportive vet. That is often the first big 
problem, so thankfully, this isn’t an issue you must also deal with.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 1:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

Hi everyone! I just joined your board today but I have been reading some of 
your posts since last week.

About 2 months ago we adopted our first FELV cat Violet. 2 weeks later we also 
adopted her brother Mo. They are amazing, sweet, affectionate cats and we love 
them so much!

Vi is eating every thing in sight, healthy, happy and very playful but poor Mo 
has really struggled. He lost an eye at 4 months old and is only 5.5lbs. He had 
a respiratory infection and teeth pulled before he came home with us. The 
rescue told us they didn't think he had long to live but wanted him to have a 
home if we would take him.

Fast forward 6 weeks and he's been back to their vet twice for tooth roots and 
non healing gums and to ours when he was obviously in terrible pain while 
eating. She found sores on his palate and ran bloodwork to check for anemia. I 
got the bad news last Thurs that he is severely anemic and there is nothing we 
can do beyond what we were doing (clavamox, prednisone, buprenorphine) and I 
was devastated... until I finally came across your archives in an exhaustive 
search on Friday.

First, thank you all for sharing, we would have no hope for sweet Mo if it 
weren't for you. I talked to his vet Sat who hadn't heard of using Winstrol. 
She agreed to at least switch him to Doxy and research it. I was shocked 
Yesterday

[Felvtalk] New FELV mom

[Sheri Burbridge]

Hi everyone! I just joined your board today but I have been reading some of
your posts since last week.

About 2 months ago we adopted our first FELV cat Violet. 2 weeks later we
also adopted her brother Mo. They are amazing, sweet, affectionate cats and
we love them so much!

Vi is eating every thing in sight, healthy, happy and very playful but poor
Mo has really struggled. He lost an eye at 4 months old and is only 5.5lbs.
He had a respiratory infection and teeth pulled before he came home with
us. The rescue told us they didn't think he had long to live but wanted him
to have a home if we would take him.

Fast forward 6 weeks and he's been back to their vet twice for tooth roots
and non healing gums and to ours when he was obviously in terrible pain
while eating. She found sores on his palate and ran bloodwork to check for
anemia. I got the bad news last Thurs that he is severely anemic and there
is nothing we can do beyond what we were doing (clavamox, prednisone,
buprenorphine) and I was devastated... until I finally came across your
archives in an exhaustive search on Friday.

First, thank you all for sharing, we would have no hope for sweet Mo if it
weren't for you. I talked to his vet Sat who hadn't heard of using
Winstrol. She agreed to at least switch him to Doxy and research it. I was
shocked Yesterday to get a call from her saying she would prescribe it for
me!!

Luckily, she was having the Doxy compound into a liquid for me and after
calling all over, that pharmacy was able to order the Stanozolol. I was
able to add the steroid to our Doxy/Pred that we were already doing.

I just wanted to ask everyone what their experience has been with this. I
know some saw great results, others, not so much. Today Mo was very
lethargic and wouldn't eat in the AM but when I came home at lunch he ate
quite a bit (for him).

His number was 10 last week (I'm not sure if that's just rbc's or not) so I
hope I was able to get him the meds in time.

Thank you again for the info, it's the only thing that has given me hope to
save Mo!

Sheri
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Re: [Felvtalk] New Baby

[Rachel Dagner]

She sounds beautiful! I have one in my neighborhood that sounds just like her, 
pure white, with one green and one blue eye. Both the most beautiful colors you 
can imagine. I hope you get her soon. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> I don’t know Rachel. The shelter that has her is a couple of hours from me, 
> and they are still trying to arrange transportation. They did send photos 
> though, and she is a pure white beauty with green AND blue eyes. I am anxious 
> to have her join my troupe.
>  
> Amani
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Rachel Dagner
> Sent: May-17-16 8:02 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy
>  
> Amani when are you getting your cancer kitty? I am so sad we can't do 
> pictures here. I want to see everyone and their babies! 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 17, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Margo – I just sent a far more detailed email before I saw yours. It 
> references a scientific study on this very issue – use of doxycycline in 
> dengue fever, but also references use of it in other viral infections caused 
> by herpes.
>  
> As I mentioned in my earlier emails, I was well aware that antibiotics 
> obviously don’t usually work on viruses, but the tetracyclines are special. 
> They don’t KILL viruses, but instead, help to block their replication.
>  
> Amani
>  
>  
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
> Sent: May-17-16 5:23 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy
>  
> 
> 
> Actually, you're both right. Doxy is an antibiotic, but also has properties 
> that prevent replication of the virus that cause dengue fever, and is being 
> used in some trials for HIV. 
> 
> So, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and now possibly anti-viral. You might 
> find this interesting;
> 
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9922979
> 
> I've used the "fish drugs" in a pinch, but they need to be made into a liquid 
> to get correct distribution and dosage, and I do better with pills/capsules. 
> Plus, I don't quite trust them . Just  my paranoia, I know people who have 
> used them successfully many times.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Margo
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Jane Gannon 
> Sent: May 17, 2016 4:43 PM 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy 
> 
> 
> 
> Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral 
> infections.  It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the 
> bacteria preventing them from  reproducing and allowing the body to fight off 
> the infection.  It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma 
> haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats   
> I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved.   
> This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products 
> on our cats.  Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce 
> chance of vomiting.  It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after 
> pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the 
> esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult 
> for your cat to swallow.  I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. 
>  
> In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the 
> cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats 
> and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script  This 
> includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), 
> clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and 
> others.  This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats.  She has alot 
> of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can 
> be found on line. 
>  
> I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking.  She had 
> vomited for a couple of days before.  She had no fever and no symptoms of 
> upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing 
> to get her to eat.  Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years 
> ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on 
> Tootsie.  Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I 
> give her.  This is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite. 
>  
> Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is 
> recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness.  She is not eating well 
> and I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of 
> days and was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works.
>  
> Jane
>  
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Re: [Felvtalk] New Baby

[Amani Oakley]

I don’t know Rachel. The shelter that has her is a couple of hours from me, and 
they are still trying to arrange transportation. They did send photos though, 
and she is a pure white beauty with green AND blue eyes. I am anxious to have 
her join my troupe.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: May-17-16 8:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy

Amani when are you getting your cancer kitty? I am so sad we can't do pictures 
here. I want to see everyone and their babies!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Amani Oakley 
> wrote:
Hi Margo – I just sent a far more detailed email before I saw yours. It 
references a scientific study on this very issue – use of doxycycline in dengue 
fever, but also references use of it in other viral infections caused by herpes.

As I mentioned in my earlier emails, I was well aware that antibiotics 
obviously don’t usually work on viruses, but the tetracyclines are special. 
They don’t KILL viruses, but instead, help to block their replication.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: May-17-16 5:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy



Actually, you're both right. Doxy is an antibiotic, but also has properties 
that prevent replication of the virus that cause dengue fever, and is being 
used in some trials for HIV.

So, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and now possibly anti-viral. You might 
find this interesting;

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9922979

I've used the "fish drugs" in a pinch, but they need to be made into a liquid 
to get correct distribution and dosage, and I do better with pills/capsules. 
Plus, I don't quite trust them . Just  my paranoia, I know people who have used 
them successfully many times.

HTH,

Margo
-Original Message-
From: Jane Gannon
Sent: May 17, 2016 4:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy



Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral 
infections.  It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the 
bacteria preventing them from  reproducing and allowing the body to fight off 
the infection.  It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma haemofelis, 
whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats   I have had a 
couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved.   This disease is 
transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products on our cats.  Doxy 
should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce chance of vomiting.  
It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after pilling because it is 
possible for the tablets to become stuck in the esophagus which can cause 
irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult for your cat to swallow.  I 
crush it and mix it with water and syringe it.

In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the 
cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats 
and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script  This includes 
doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), 
clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and 
others.  This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats.  She has alot of 
other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can be 
found on line.

I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking.  She had 
vomited for a couple of days before.  She had no fever and no symptoms of upper 
respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing to get 
her to eat.  Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years ago for 
another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on Tootsie.  
Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I give her.  This 
is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite.

Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is 
recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness.  She is not eating well and 
I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of days and 
was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works.

Jane

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[dlgegg]

First, give them lots of love, security and a stress free life.  Then medicine 
if necessary.
Especially stress, it weakens the immune system.

 Jennifer Lewis  wrote: 
> LOVE the names!
> I recommend starting them on Maitake d-fraction. The + kitties in particular 
> as it is anti-cancer, but all is ok too. We even take it ourselves. Our Brynn 
> just lays down and laps it. About 7-10 drops in a syringe of water.
> Jen L
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Sabrina Doyle wrote:
> 
> > Hi all my name is Sabrina. 1.5 years ago we decided to adopt a new kitten. 
> > Mad Max, came from a spay clinic/rescue, very reputable. Our 2 Dizzy, 11 
> > with issues an a seizure disorder, and The Weasel age 3 at the time. All 
> > testing of Max mom was negative. Got a call 6months later his brother got 
> > sick and tested positive for FELV. The woman who surrendered the litter 
> > pointed them to the wrong Mother. Max will be 2 Feb. 1 and has tested 
> > positive twice. Since then we adopted Raven who we knew was positive. We 
> > have lots of love but I am here to learn so I can give them the best care. 
> > Thanks for taking the time to read.
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[Jennifer Lewis]

LOVE the names!
I recommend starting them on Maitake d-fraction. The + kitties in particular as 
it is anti-cancer, but all is ok too. We even take it ourselves. Our Brynn just 
lays down and laps it. About 7-10 drops in a syringe of water.
Jen L
On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Sabrina Doyle wrote:

> Hi all my name is Sabrina. 1.5 years ago we decided to adopt a new kitten. 
> Mad Max, came from a spay clinic/rescue, very reputable. Our 2 Dizzy, 11 with 
> issues an a seizure disorder, and The Weasel age 3 at the time. All testing 
> of Max mom was negative. Got a call 6months later his brother got sick and 
> tested positive for FELV. The woman who surrendered the litter pointed them 
> to the wrong Mother. Max will be 2 Feb. 1 and has tested positive twice. 
> Since then we adopted Raven who we knew was positive. We have lots of love 
> but I am here to learn so I can give them the best care. Thanks for taking 
> the time to read.
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Re: [Felvtalk] New have question

[dlgegg]

i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL.  IT IS A GOOD 
ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT.  I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY,  IT 
TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS.  (I JUST 
SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.)
 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 I don’t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral 
 health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet 
 dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring 
 up their site. I believe they’re owned by Virbac. 
 
 After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG 
 (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often gave 
 her Prescription Diet t/d as a “treat”. We rarely had any gum or teeth 
 issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good for 
 a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain.
 
 Best wishes for you and the calico kitten,
 
 Lance
 
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  Hi everyone,
  I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
  this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
  rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I 
  was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote 
  oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can 
  someone help me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course 
  of treatment.  Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. 
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[Susan Grimes]

Hi everyone,
I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I was 
reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote oral 
health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can someone help 
me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course of treatment.  
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Re: [Felvtalk] New have question

[Lance]

I don’t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral 
health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet 
dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring up 
their site. I believe they’re owned by Virbac. 

After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG (both 
are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often gave her 
Prescription Diet t/d as a “treat”. We rarely had any gum or teeth issues, 
though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good for a kitty 
already dealing with any mouth pain.

Best wishes for you and the calico kitten,

Lance

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 Hi everyone,
 I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
 this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
 rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I was 
 reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote oral 
 health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can someone 
 help me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course of 
 treatment.  Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New have question

[Kelley]

Not specifically for oral health but my holistic vet has both my felv+ kitties 
on standard process veterinary formula feline immune support tablets. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes sweet2bcota...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
 this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
 rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I was 
 reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote oral 
 health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can someone 
 help me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course of 
 treatment.  Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. 
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[Marsha]

Hi Susan,

It's not a supplement, but I think I posted a link a while back about 
the use of Virbagen Omega in FeLV+ cats with stomatitis:


http://www.dentistvet.com/docs/Gingivostomatitis-Veterinary-InfoApr2012.pdf

I haven't tried it yet, but may consider after Harley's next checkup.  
Last one he was showing what looked to be early stomatitis, but all his 
bloodwork was great, and it doesn't bother him to eat either kibble or 
canned.  Or the occasional mouse that gets in the garage.  Currently 
doing only Vetri-DMG and Vita-chews.


Marsha

On 8/11/2014 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original 
test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and 
have done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs. We are waiting on IFA 
results now.  I was reading the archives and read something about 
supplements to promote oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem 
to find that post. Can someone help me with that info?  Am waiting on 
labs now to decide on course of treatment.  Currently on Immunostim 
drops and Lysine treats.

Thanks, Susan



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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance

[Margo]

Hi Chris,

 It's very possible to make your own cat food, and I have/do. It isn't as simple as chicken + a cat vitamin, but it isn't that difficult either. Google "Home prepared cat food" and start reading recipes. I use no grain and very few (if any) veggies and fruits. Essential are taurine and calcium, unless you're feeding raw with bone, then you can skip the Ca. 

 I liked the list, as well, as it gave me new foods to look into, but I was disappointed in most of them when I looked at the ingredients. The only one I use from there is Hound and Gatos. The other canned varieties seem to have too many extraneous ingredients, and I don't feed raw to the FeLV group, not even my own preparation. Tiki is way too expensive for me to even consider (I think the Hound and Gatos is too high, as well, but I do keep it in the mix) and most varieties have fish, which may not be good for my FLUTD/FeLV boys. I confess that I feed some "lpw-end" foods, simply beause I like the ingredient lists better than some of the high end ones. It's all a choice :)

HTH

Margo

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That’s a great site-thanks!I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
a cat vitamin?

Chris C.





From: Lance 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance


Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.

About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.

I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 

You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:

http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/

Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound  Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.


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Hi Lance,







Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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[Margo]

Dear Deborah,

 What a lousy way to start off as a Foster Mom. It isn't usually like that. Usually you get to play with wonderful little beings, and then send them to their Forever homes. It's never easy to let them go, but knowing that they will have new lives, and you can go on to help the next ones, it kind of balances out.

Unfortunately, there don't seem to be any hard and fast rules for FeLV. From my research, It seems that while cats can test negative and yet still harbor the virus, when they DO test negative, they are not contagious. The problem is multi-faceted, though. In your case, wedon't know when the MomCat sero-coverted to positive. Was it during her stay with you? After she left you? If that, then the kittens have a good chance of never testing positive. It's also possible, in fact most likely,that the MomCat was exposed before she was taken into rescue. The incubation period for FeLV is variable, and that's the biggest problem. We just don't know what the time frames are. It's also possible for a cat to test negative, become positive (after incubation) and then recover completely. That can takeup 16 weeks, some sources say longer. From; http://abcd-vets.org/guidelines/guidelines_pdf/1201-FeLV_Guideline.pdf, when discussing positive yet healthy cats;

"Cats testing positive may overcome viraemia after two to sixteen weeks - in rare
cases even later. Therefore, every test-positive healthy cat should be separated
and retested after several weeks or months;"

 So, it is very possible that they will be negative in 30 days, but they may be positive. The question is whether they will STAY positive. Or stay negative. Even if they become positive, and return to negative, it won't be clear whether they still harbor the virus, or have cleared it completely. 

This is no help, I know. I wish there were more I could tell you, but I'm struggling to understand it, myself. 

All the best,

Margo


-Original Message- From: Deborah Adams <auntiede...@yahoo.com>Sent: Jun 6, 2013 4:14 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: [Felvtalk] New Member 


Hi all,

I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the situation that I'm in. Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my local humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10 years). We were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5 weeks old, found as strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came back negative (I don't know which test HS used.) After helping momma wean her kittens, I returned her to the shelter this past weekend. Yesterday she was retested for FeLV before her spay surgery and was positive. (HS checked both her blood and serum.) Today, I took the kittens back to HS for testing and they are negative for FeLV. I agreed to continue fostering them for 30 days and then they will be retested.

How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this. My kids are heart-broken. I feel like everything is going all wrong. First, they all got URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three different antibiotics until it finally cleared up. But her eye is all clouded over and she is probably blind in that eye. And now this FeLV scare. I don't know if I can handle fostering.

Deborah Adams

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[kasia mosko]

Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out 
to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel 
like my life has just ended. 
Kasia



 
 

Kasia,
I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats
are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. 
There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only
one became very sick and had to be PTS.  The other 9 cats are still fine. 
One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a
death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that 
kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at
a year or so old.   Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.

Lorrie

On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:
    Hello,
    I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline
    leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted
    two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me
    something totally different. One of them says that I should separate
    Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they
    are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already
    exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong
    enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,
    the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may
    show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the
    vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step
    should be.
    Help would be greatly appreciated,
    Kasia


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[Margo]

Oh crap.

Kasia, I'm so sorry. I've been afraid to do that
Please, take a deep breath. Your life hasn't ended, and neither has theirs.

We need to think this through.

Okay. From what I seeJack was the original to test positive for FeLV, and healso has Lymphoma, which is currently being treated. 
Your other cats are now testing (Elisa?) positive for FeLV. According to this article;

http://abcd-vets.org/guidelines/guidelines_pdf/1201-FeLV_Guideline.pdf

there is a possibility that the others MAY not be persistently infected.

"The most widely used in-practice tests are antigen ELISA and
immunochromatography. As the prevalence of FeLV infection has decreased in
many European countries, also false positive test results tend to increase.
Therefore, a doubtful positive result in a healthy cat should always be confirmed,
preferably using provirus PCR (DNA PCR) offered by a reliable laboratory. A
positive test in a cat with clinical signs consistent with FeLV infection is more
reliable, as in sick cats the prevalence of FeLV is considerably higher.
Cats testing positive may overcome viraemia after two to sixteen weeks - in rare
cases even later. Therefore, every test-positive healthy cat should be separated
and retested after several weeks or months; depending on compliance of the
owner, retesting can be done still later (up to one year) when it is highly unlikely
that the cat will clear the viraemia."

It's the same thing I'm facing, if not to the same extent. I don't know if Gribble infected Mako, or vice-versa. Or are there other positives in this bunch, that will show up later, when they have health issues down the road. 

It's all very complicated. Every tine I think I get a handle on it, something else happens.

So I'm trying to go one day at a time. I will make their lives as wonderful as I can, and as comfortable. I will try to make wise decisions, though there are no quarantees. Basically, I will do the best that I can.

Again, I'm so very sorry that this has happened.

Margo

To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group 

Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
Kasia






Kasia,I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive catsare now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and onlyone became very sick and had to be PTS. The other 9 cats are still fine. One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always adeath sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die ata year or so old. Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.LorrieOn 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:  Hello,  I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline  leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted  two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me  something totally different. One of them says that I should separate  Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they  are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already  exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong  enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,  the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may  show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the  vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step  should be.  Help would be greatly appreciated,  Kasia___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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[Beth]

Kasia -
We've all made mistakes, but we have to go on and do the best we can with what 
the current situation is. I unknowingly infected a kitten once before I knew 
much about FeLV. No, your life isn't over. I currently have 4 FeLV cats. 2 I 
have had for 3 years. They have a much better chance at a longer life if they 
get it when they are older. 

Beth


 
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 From: kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:53 AM
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Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out 
to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel 
like my life has just ended. 
Kasia



 
 

Kasia,
I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats
are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. 
There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only
one became very sick and had to be PTS.  The other 9 cats are still fine. 
One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a
death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that 
kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at
a year or so old.   Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.

Lorrie

On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:
   
 Hello,
    I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline
    leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted
    two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me
    something totally different. One of them says that I should separate
    Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they
    are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already
    exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong
    enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,
    the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may
    show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the
    vaccination. I am totally
 confused and not sure what my next step
    should be.
    Help would be greatly appreciated,
    Kasia


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[Felvtalk] New Member

[Deborah Adams]

Hi all,

I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the 
situation that I'm in.  Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my local 
humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10 years).  We 
were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5 weeks old, found as 
strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came back negative (I don't know 
which test HS used.)  After helping momma wean her kittens, I returned her to 
the shelter this past weekend.  Yesterday she was retested for FeLV before her 
spay surgery and was positive. (HS checked both her blood and serum.)  Today, I 
took the kittens back to HS for testing and they are negative for FeLV.  I 
agreed to continue fostering them for 30 days and then they will be retested.

How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will 
continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this.  My kids are 
heart-broken.  I feel like everything is going all wrong.  First, they all got 
URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three different 
antibiotics until it finally cleared up.  But her eye is all clouded over and 
she is probably blind in that eye.  And now this FeLV scare.  I don't know if I 
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[Amanda K. Payne]

Deborah,

First of all, thank you for fostering!  You and your daughters provided an
invaluable service for your local HS.

I'm sorry your first fostering experience has been tainted by FeLV.  Please
understand that FeLV isn't an automatic death sentence though cats and
kittens who are positive usually have a shorter life span.  However, it
doesn't mean their quality of life is horrible the entire time they are
alive.  Whether they live for days or months or years, FeLV+ cats and
kittens can have fun, be crazy, play like there is no tomorrow and give
tons of love.

Testing kittens for FeLV can be troublesome, especially if they've been
exposed to the virus.  I work with several different rescues in the Los
Angeles area and also have a FeLV+ cat and have had them in the past.  Most
rescues and vets will recommend testing the kittens once they have reached
six months of age OR have been separated from an FeLV carrier for six
months.  False positives happen more frequently in kittens under 6 months
of age so that is why they suggest testing when they hit the six month
mark.

As far as their chances of having FeLV, no one can say with certainty or
give you probabilities.  Some kittens get it while others don't.  For
instance, I've had a kitten that was rescued from a hoarder.  This kitten
was around three other litters for two months and around the mama cats.
 The kitten I brought home was FeLV+ but no other kittens ever tested
positive nor did their mamas.  As you can see, FeLV is a real crapshoot.  I
apologize I can't give you a more definitive answer.

Most importantly, and I cannot stress this enough, is how important
fostering is.  I know your current experience is rough and you may feel you
are not up to it.  Whether these kittens end up with FeLV or not, your
fostering them most likely saved their lives. Even if their lives are cut
short by a FeLV related illness, they knew love and care and that is the
most important part of fostering; every animal deserves to know love and
safety and somebody has to love those FeLV kitties!  Hopefully, they stay
negative, find great homes and you choose to keep fostering.

Once again, thanks for fostering.

Best,
-Amanda


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Deborah Adams auntiede...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,** http://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/#

 I'm a new member of this group hoping to better understand FeLv and the
 situation that I'm in.  Last month, I decided to foster kittens for my
 local humane society as a summer project with my 2 girls (age 7 and 10
 years).  We were given a momma cat and her 3 kittens who were about 4-5
 weeks old, found as strays. All were initially tested for FeLv and came
 back negative (I don't know which test HS used.)  After helping momma wean
 her kittens, I returned her to the shelter this past weekend.  Yesterday
 she was retested for FeLV before her spay surgery and was positive. (HS
 checked both her blood and serum.)  Today, I took the kittens back to HS
 for testing and they are negative for FeLV.  I agreed to continue fostering
 them for 30 days and then they will be retested.

 How much hope do these kittens have? Is there any chance that they will
 continue to be negative for FeLV? I'm so stressed about all this.  My kids
 are heart-broken.  I feel like everything is going all wrong.  First, they
 all got URI and one kitten got a persistent eye infection that took three
 different antibiotics until it finally cleared up.  But her eye is all
 clouded over and she is probably blind in that eye.  And now this FeLV
 scare.  I don't know if I can handle fostering.

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[Lorrie]

Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
the time they were with the positive cats.

I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
good long life in spite of being positive.

Lorrie

On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
Lorrie,
Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
Kasia
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[kasia mosko]

Hi Lorrie,

Three of my cats are around 7-8 years old, one is little over 3 years, and two 
will be three years old soon. From what I understood is that older cats got 
infected because they hang around the carrier for a long period of time. It is 
such a shocking news, I still do not know how to deal with it; honestly, this 
is the worst time of my life. All of my animals are the most important things 
in my life, I cant imagine losing any of them...unless they are old and ready 
to go. 



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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group
 

Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
the time they were with the positive cats.

I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
good long life in spite of being positive.

Lorrie

    On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
    Lorrie,
    Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
    turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
    has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
    Kasia
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[Lance]

I'm so sorry, Kasia. You and your cats will be in my thoughts and prayers. As 
Lorrie said, it's very possible that an FeLV+ cat can live for years. I 
understand how you feel, though. I'm worried about a likely exposure in our 
house, and I also have an 11 year old FeLV+ girl of my own.

Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 

Lance

On Jun 6, 2013, at 4:19 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Lorrie,
 
 Three of my cats are around 7-8 years old, one is little over 3 years, and 
 two will be three years old soon. From what I understood is that older cats 
 got infected because they hang around the carrier for a long period of time. 
 It is such a shocking news, I still do not know how to deal with it; 
 honestly, this is the worst time of my life. All of my animals are the most 
 important things in my life, I cant imagine losing any of them...unless 
 they are old and  ready to go. 
 
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group
 
 Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
 unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
 the time they were with the positive cats.
 
 I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
 live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
 treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
 good long life in spite of being positive.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
 Lorrie,
 Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
 turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
 has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
 Kasia
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[kasia mosko]

Hi Lance,



Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
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[Lance]

Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took 
in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.

About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there 
is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.

I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. 
For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 

You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:

http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/

Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
like Hound  Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:

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 Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
 ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
 Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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[cerwin]

That’s a great site-thanks!

I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
a cat vitamin?

Chris C.


From: Lance 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
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Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took 
in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.

About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there 
is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.

I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. 
For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 

You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:

http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/

Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
like Hound  Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:


  Hi Lance,


  Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
  ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
  Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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[Lance]

Hi Chris,

That would certainly make sense. Looking at it like that, I guess the extra 
money paid is going to the convenience of not having to buy chicken, boil it, 
and prepare it. Nothing more.

Side note: Ember is so spoiled by Tiki Cat that she avoids all paté types of 
foods. It sounds funny, but it might be something to consider before going down 
that route. I'm in a spot with her where I really, really can't have her not 
eating even for a few hours. So, Ember's Tiki Cat habit is the boss of me.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 8:53 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:

 That’s a great site-thanks!
 
 I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
 looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
 a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
 a cat vitamin?
  
 Chris C.
  
  
 From: Lance
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance
  
 Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
 disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
 when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
 into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents 
 took  in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.
  
 About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support 
 there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.
  
 I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
 very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
 count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
 bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory 
 infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat.
  
 You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:
  
 http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/
  
 Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
 like Hound  Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.
  
 On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lance,
  
  
 Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms?
 ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
 Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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[kasia mosko]

Hello,

I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia 
and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets 
regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally 
different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other 
cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets 
tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their 
immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat 
is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though 
the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late 
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[Margo]

Hi Kasia,

 So sorry that you are facing this dilemma. I recently faced the same scenario. Like you, the more I learned, the less I seemed to know. All I can offer is the decision I made. When Gribble was diagnosed in March, he had been with his clowder a year and 2 months. At that time, all_tested_ negative. I asked my Vet whether there was anything to be done, and her words were "that ship has sailed". So I did not vaccinate his companions. However, any new additions and other cats that may come in contact with him will be vaccinated using the Merial rFeLV recombinant vaccine. I decided this when I was placed in a position of adding one more cat, and now it is done. Whether I made the right choice has yet to be determined. 

 You will find that there is no one answer. You will find people who mix, and thise who don't.

 All I can say is learn what you can, and if you have done that, make the best choice you can for your circumstances. Please let us know if there are specific questions, as someone here may have been in the same position, and will have some insight to offer.

All the best,

Margo

-Original Message- From: kasia mosko <kasia...@yahoo.com>Sent: Jun 2, 2013 10:31 AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: [Felvtalk] New To Group 

Hello,

I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step should be.
Help would be greatly appreciated,
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[Lorrie]

Hi Marta,

Unfortuntely euthanasia is the best option in some cases. For example
if the cat who tested positive is a shelter cat.

However there are several of us on this list who have FelV sanctuaries,
and I am one of them. I have lost many kittens who has FelV pos. mothers
but my older FelV cats often live symptom free for many years. For example
I have two FelV + cats who are 5 years old.

Lorrie in WV

On 05-10, Marta Gasper wrote:
Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue
director in Fairbury, Nebraska.
One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago
also positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some
disorders that'd make him hard to adopt.
Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was
FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens
tested leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when
younger, he was tested after his uris kept returning; although we are
no-kill and try to give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia
is the best option.
 
Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other
than being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight
stopped eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making
gargling, squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and
said it looked good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be
from further lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and
coincidentally he's developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on
his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now
he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested
interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that
made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it though
because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a
limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative
as Arlo won't get better.
I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't
know how much Interferon is right now etc.
 
Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if
the cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if
and what cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even
try other treatments?
 
And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo,
what treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
Marta


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[Marta Gasper]

Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
Fairbury, Nebraska.
One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
that'd make him hard to adopt.
Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ and 
some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ Our 
vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested after his 
uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them the best 
hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
 
Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down 
his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that 
bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal 
infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat 
again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other 
problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it 
though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a 
limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo 
won't get better.
I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know how 
much Interferon is right now etc.
 
Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat 
is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer 
he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments?
 
And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
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[Lee Evans]

Sorry about all your problems with poor Arlo. Along with the vet's 
recommendations you might want to try L-lysine, which is an immune system 
stimulant, especially for fighting herpes virus. Good luck with Arlo. You're 
doing the best you can. 


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska
 


Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
Fairbury, Nebraska.
One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
that'd make him hard to adopt.
Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ 
and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ 
Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested 
after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them 
the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
 
Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses down 
his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots that 
bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal 
infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat 
again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other 
problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it 
though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a 
limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo 
won't get better.
I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know 
how much Interferon is right now etc.
 
Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the cat 
is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what cancer 
he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other treatments?
 
And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
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[Lance]

Hi Marta,

Thanks for everything that you do for all of those cats, including Arlo.  I'm 
not aware of any specific recommendation that treatments be discontinued or not 
applied at any certain stage of infection or progress. However, I'm not an 
expert or veterinarian. 

I have given my FeLV+ girl Transfer Factor and Liquid DMG fairly regularly. She 
has also been on interferon (five days on/five days off protocol) ever since 
she tested positive. All three are supposed to help boost or modulate the 
immune system. Interferon is the only thing I give that requires a 
prescription. 

I have no info on nebulizers. I'd forgotten about them until tonight. Had to 
Google to be reminded.

Best wishes for you and Arlo,

Lance

On May 10, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director in 
 Fairbury, Nebraska.
 One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also 
 positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders 
 that'd make him hard to adopt.
 Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was FeLV+ 
 and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested leuk +._ 
 Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was tested 
 after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to give them 
 the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.
  
 Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than 
 being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped eating 
 and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling, squishy 
 noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked good, mild 
 gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further lesions/masses 
 down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's developed bald spots 
 that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and 
 fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to 
 eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and 
 other problems that made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to 
 administer it though because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows 
 we're on a limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia 
 alternative as Arlo won't get better.
 I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't know 
 how much Interferon is right now etc.
  
 Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the 
 cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what 
 cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other 
 treatments?
  
 And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what 
 treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[I-Chun C. C. Chang]

Dear Marta,

While searching for possible treatments, you may want to at least consider
stopping using Metacam:
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/CVMUpdates/ucm231254.htm
I personally know several cats died because of Metacam before other
diseases take them.
There are some alternative pain medications that your vet should be able to
provide you with.

with my best,
Catherine




On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Marta Gasper gasper.ma...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue director
 in Fairbury, Nebraska.
 One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago also
 positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some disorders
 that'd make him hard to adopt.
 Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was
 FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens tested
 leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when younger, he was
 tested after his uris kept returning; although we are no-kill and try to
 give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia is the best option.

 Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other than
 being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight stopped
 eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making gargling,
 squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and said it looked
 good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be from further
 lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and coincidentally he's
 developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on his fur. Vet said those
 were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now he's on Clavamox and
 metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested interferon_we did have a
 FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that made a remarkable comeback on
 it_and he agreed to administer it though because Arlo has all these
 symptoms and because he knows we're on a limited budget he talked about
 considering the euthanasia alternative as Arlo won't get better.
 I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't
 know how much Interferon is right now etc.

 Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if the
 cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if and what
 cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even try other
 treatments?

 And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo, what
 treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
 Marta

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[dlgegg]

Sorry to be lae, been off line for a few days.  I also have a mix of positive 
and negative cats.  My vet said vaccinate the negatives and all should be okay. 
 Mostly, lots of love, good food and cut down on the stress pllus run to the 
vet at the first sign of unusual behavior.  better and cheaper to catch things 
early than late.  


 Dianne Chance dechance19...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
 Hello Group,
 I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
 been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
 positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
 results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
 confirmation without a doubt?  
 I would appreciate your responses.  dyan
 
  


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[Dianne Chance]

Hello Group,
I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
confirmation without a doubt?  
I would appreciate your responses.  dyan

 
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[Terri Brown]

Hi Dyan,

We are still here!  Sometimes the list is quiet.

I have no FeLV+ kitties at present.however, I do have some experience.  I'm 
at work right now, so I cannot answer your question in detail at the moment.

There are many on the list with even more expertise than I and I am certain 
that someone will write to you soon!

Welcome to the list, although I am sorry you had to find us.

=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
Samantha, 
Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire 
=^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne Chancemailto:dechance19...@yahoo.com 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:47 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group



Hello Group, 


I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  
I have been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline 
leukemia positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, 
can results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to 
have confirmation without a doubt?  


I would appreciate your responses.  
dyan


 
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing

[Beth]

I believe Sharyl posted a link to this chart about testing

http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html

My vet usually does an ELISA in house snap test. If positive we do it again 
immediately to make sure the test was done right.
If both tests come out positive, we do an IFA (sent to a lab) to see if the 
virus is in the bone marrow.
If the IFA is positive, the cat is positive. There is no reversing the FeLV at 
that point.
If the IFA is negative, wait 90 days  re-do the ELISA snap test.
If the ELISA snap test is still positive you can re-do the IFA at that point to 
see if the virus is now replicating in the bone marrow.
You can keep re-testing on the ELISA snap test unless you get a positive IFA, 
but the tests are expensive.

Basically a positive IFA means the cat is definitely positive  will not shake 
the virus,


The best thing is to get a vet experienced with FeLV  the testing process.

Beth 

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 From: Dianne Chance dechance19...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:47 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group
 


Hello Group,

I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
confirmation without a doubt?  

I would appreciate your responses.  
dyan


 
 
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[Christiane Biagi]

Sort of depends.  There are 2 standard tests vets use.  First is the Elissa
'snap' test.  Its essentially a test strip and vet pricks the dog to get a
drop of blood and results are shown by color on the strip-test is done right
in the office.  Second is the IFA in which vet draws blood and sends to lab.
It is possible for a kitty to test pos on Elissa and some time later test
neg on the IFA-means cat has likely shed the virus.  So answer would sort of
depend on what test was done and how old the cat is.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Dianne Chance
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:48 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group

 



Hello Group,

 

I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I
have been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline
leukemia positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing
results, can results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be
tested to have confirmation without a doubt?  

 

I would appreciate your responses.  

dyan



 

 

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[Dianne Chance]

Thank You for your response.  I value your experienced advise.
The kitty I have is now and has been in isolation since she showed up at my 
door on January 17th.  I have other healthy kitties in the house so I am being 
extremely cautious about handling this situation.  I took her to my vet who 
tested her with what I believe was the ELISA Screening.  She suggested that if 
I can hold her in isolation or find foster care for her she could test her 
again on Feb. 19th.  Do I understand that I should ask for the IFA test to be 
sent out at that time?  
This kitty does not look ill, has no parasites, and has been spayed.  She 
appears to be a trap and release kitty as her ear is tipped and she has a green 
dot tattoo at the spaying site.  I had no idea of all this information until 
the vet told me about it.  She also said kitty is under a year old.  
I was hoping that her next test would prove negative to give her a better 
chance of finding a new home.  I know I could not place her in any home with 
other cats should she be positive again.  
Blessings,Dyan


 


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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 11:03 AM

I believe Sharyl posted a link to this chart about testing

http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html

My vet usually does an ELISA in house snap test. If positive we do it again 
immediately to make sure the test was done right.
If both tests come out positive, we do an IFA (sent to a lab) to see if the 
virus is in the bone marrow.
If the IFA is positive, the cat is positive. There is no reversing the FeLV at 
that point.
If the IFA is negative, wait 90 days  re-do the ELISA snap test.
If the ELISA snap test is still positive you can re-do the IFA at that point to 
see if the virus is now replicating in the bone
 marrow.
You can keep re-testing on the ELISA snap test unless you get a positive IFA, 
but the tests are expensive.

Basically a positive IFA means the cat is definitely positive  will not shake 
the virus,

The best thing is to get a vet experienced with FeLV  the testing process.
Beth 
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From: Dianne Chance dechance19...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:47 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] New to the Group
   


Hello Group,
I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
confirmation without a doubt?  
I would appreciate your responses.  dyan

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing

[Beth]

If the 2nd snap test is positive I would do an IFA (which is sent out to a 
lab). 
But you can do an IFA now. That is up to you. The IFA is expensive.

I have healthy non-FeLV cats who live quite well with my FeLV positive 
cats.They share food, water,  litter. My negative cats are all  vaccinated 
against FeLV.
I've been mixing FeLV and non-FeLV cats for 13 years with no transmission of 
the virus.
I've even mixed FIV+ cats with FeLV+ cats with no transmission of either virus.

Beth


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 From: Dianne Chance dechance19...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing
 

Thank You for your response.  I value your experienced advise.

The kitty I have is now and has been in isolation since she showed up at my 
door on January 17th.  I have other healthy kitties in the house so I am being 
extremely cautious about handling this situation.  I took her to my vet who 
tested her with what I believe was the ELISA Screening.  She suggested that if 
I can hold her in isolation or find foster care for her she could test her 
again on Feb. 19th.  Do I understand that I should ask for the IFA test to be 
sent out at that time?  

This kitty does not look ill, has no parasites, and has been spayed.  She 
appears to be a trap and release kitty as her ear is tipped and she has a green 
dot tattoo at the spaying site.  I had no idea of all this information until 
the vet told me about it.  She also said kitty is under a year old.  

I was hoping that her next test would prove negative to give her a better 
chance of finding a new home.  I know I could not place her in any home with 
other cats should she be positive again.  

Blessings,
Dyan



 


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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to the Group/Testing
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 11:03 AM


I believe Sharyl posted a link to this chart about testing

http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html

My vet usually does an ELISA in house snap test. If positive we do it again 
immediately to make sure the test was done right.
If both tests come out positive, we do an IFA (sent to a lab) to see if
 the virus is in the bone marrow.
If the IFA is positive, the cat is positive. There is no reversing the FeLV at 
that point.
If the IFA is negative, wait 90 days  re-do the ELISA snap test.
If the ELISA snap test is still positive you can re-do the IFA at that point 
to see if the virus is now replicating in the bone
 marrow.
You can keep re-testing on the ELISA snap test unless you get a positive IFA, 
but the tests are expensive.

Basically a positive IFA means the cat is definitely positive  will not shake 
the virus,



The best thing is to get a vet experienced with FeLV  the testing process.


Beth 

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Hello Group,


I just joined your service and wondered if the group is still active.  I have 
been searching for people who have experience dealing with feline leukemia 
positive kitties.  My biggest question is about the testing results, can 
results be a false positive?  How many times should a kitty be tested to have 
confirmation without a doubt?  


I would appreciate your responses.  
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Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten

[Maryam Ulomi]

Thank you for your encouraging words, we are very happy with kitten and she is 
happy with us. We will retest her in a few weeks when she reaches a few months 
old.



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On Sep 7, 2012, at 7:34, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 Thank you for taking in this baby kitten.  I rescued 4 kittens in June and
 all of them tested positive for FelV.  The vet said their mother must have
 had it. She was a feral stray.  I plan to retest all the kittens in October,
 as they often beat the virus and test negative in time. Good luck with your
 kitten.
 
 Lorrie in WV
 
 On 09-06, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
 Hello,
 
 There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over
 three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as
 soon as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and
 spayed. Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on
 trying to secure a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to
 get a trap to catch the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the
 kitten and took her to the vet, and she tested positive for feline
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Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten

[Maryam Ulomi]

I haves not yet vaccinated my other two cats but we are planning on in the next 
few weeks. I will go back and read the past posts on mixing.

Thank you very much,

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On Sep 9, 2012, at 7:53, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Please think twice before isolating her.  I have 2 positives and they have 
 the run of the house just as my negatives do.  My vet said that as long as 
 the others have been vaccinated for FELV, it is okay.  We have been a mixed 
 family since 2008 and no problems.
 
  Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hello,
 
 There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over 
 three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as 
 soon as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and 
 spayed. Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying 
 to secure a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a 
 trap to catch the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and 
 took her to the vet, and she tested positive for feline leukemia. 
 I was so devastated because I guess we all agreed we would take this new 
 little gift on as she literally had landed in front of our door. She is so 
 lively and playful so we are hopeful. Our vet is really kind and good. He 
 did note that she might not live very long because she tested positive and 
 has enlarged glands but we are hopeful.  I am now emailing many groups who 
 work with feral cats about getting a trap to catch the mom and have her 
 fixed.
 
 Regarding kitten, we are keeping her, we are very sad but we will take care 
 of her because she is so lovely and we want to offer her the best possible 
 life until she is sick. If she is sick, we have read many reports which note 
 that testing kitten for feline leukemia before 6months can usually show them 
 as positive but it's only because of the mothers milk, etc...in them. 
 
 We are also contacting groups to see if there is a person or a family with a 
 cat or cats with feline leukemia who would want this new little bundle of 
 joy just so she would have playmates. We feel awful because we have her in a 
 bedroom, she cannot come to contact with our two other cats who are not FeLV 
 positive. We have prepared the room for the kitten and have made a beautiful 
 place for her. Lots of toys, kitty condo, obstacle courses so she can play 
 around. 
 
 My friend just told me about this group, so I am joining to find out more 
 about our options, what to do next regarding our other cats, and best ways 
 to take care of her.
 
 thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten

[dlgegg]

Please think twice before isolating her.  I have 2 positives and they have the 
run of the house just as my negatives do.  My vet said that as long as the 
others have been vaccinated for FELV, it is okay.  We have been a mixed family 
since 2008 and no problems.

 Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hello,
 
 There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over 
 three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as soon 
 as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and spayed. 
 Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying to secure 
 a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a trap to catch 
 the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and took her to the 
 vet, and she tested positive for feline leukemia. 
 I was so devastated because I guess we all agreed we would take this new 
 little gift on as she literally had landed in front of our door. She is so 
 lively and playful so we are hopeful. Our vet is really kind and good. He did 
 note that she might not live very long because she tested positive and has 
 enlarged glands but we are hopeful.  I am now emailing many groups who work 
 with feral cats about getting a trap to catch the mom and have her fixed.
 
 Regarding kitten, we are keeping her, we are very sad but we will take care 
 of her because she is so lovely and we want to offer her the best possible 
 life until she is sick. If she is sick, we have read many reports which note 
 that testing kitten for feline leukemia before 6months can usually show them 
 as positive but it's only because of the mothers milk, etc...in them. 
 
 We are also contacting groups to see if there is a person or a family with a 
 cat or cats with feline leukemia who would want this new little bundle of joy 
 just so she would have playmates. We feel awful because we have her in a 
 bedroom, she cannot come to contact with our two other cats who are not FeLV 
 positive. We have prepared the room for the kitten and have made a beautiful 
 place for her. Lots of toys, kitty condo, obstacle courses so she can play 
 around. 
 
 My friend just told me about this group, so I am joining to find out more 
 about our options, what to do next regarding our other cats, and best ways to 
 take care of her.
 
 thanks,
 
 Mary
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten

[Lorrie]

Thank you for taking in this baby kitten.  I rescued 4 kittens in June and
all of them tested positive for FelV.  The vet said their mother must have
had it. She was a feral stray.  I plan to retest all the kittens in October,
as they often beat the virus and test negative in time. Good luck with your
kitten.

Lorrie in WV

On 09-06, Maryam Ulomi wrote:
 Hello,
 
 There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over
 three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as
 soon as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and
 spayed. Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on
 trying to secure a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to
 get a trap to catch the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the
 kitten and took her to the vet, and she tested positive for feline
 leukemia...  









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[Felvtalk] New Felv Positive Kitty

[Lisa Conner]

Hi,
That is great you took in the kitten.  We just lost our kitty- Prancer after 
nine + years and he was Felv positive!  Not one issue in those years and we had 
other cats in our household.  They were all vaccinated against the virus.   So, 
keep your fingers crossed he may live a long life and prosper:)


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[Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten

[Maryam Ulomi]

Hello,

There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over three 
years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as soon as the 
trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and spayed. Last week, 
she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying to secure a trap to 
catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a trap to catch the mom yet. 
Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and took her to the vet, and she 
tested positive for feline leukemia. 
I was so devastated because I guess we all agreed we would take this new little 
gift on as she literally had landed in front of our door. She is so lively and 
playful so we are hopeful. Our vet is really kind and good. He did note that 
she might not live very long because she tested positive and has enlarged 
glands but we are hopeful.  I am now emailing many groups who work with feral 
cats about getting a trap to catch the mom and have her fixed.

Regarding kitten, we are keeping her, we are very sad but we will take care of 
her because she is so lovely and we want to offer her the best possible life 
until she is sick. If she is sick, we have read many reports which note that 
testing kitten for feline leukemia before 6months can usually show them as 
positive but it's only because of the mothers milk, etc...in them. 

We are also contacting groups to see if there is a person or a family with a 
cat or cats with feline leukemia who would want this new little bundle of joy 
just so she would have playmates. We feel awful because we have her in a 
bedroom, she cannot come to contact with our two other cats who are not FeLV 
positive. We have prepared the room for the kitten and have made a beautiful 
place for her. Lots of toys, kitty condo, obstacle courses so she can play 
around. 

My friend just told me about this group, so I am joining to find out more about 
our options, what to do next regarding our other cats, and best ways to take 
care of her.

thanks,

Mary

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Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten

[Beth]

Thanks for taking this little one in. I mix all my FeLv positive cats with my 
negative cats. My negative cats are fully vaccinated. I've been mixing my cats 
for 13 years, on the advice of my former vet. I suggest you search the archives 
on mixing for more info.
Swollen glands could just mean a treatable infection. Don't assume everything 
is FeLV related. Treat illness like you would with any other cat.
Beth


Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over 
three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as soon 
as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and spayed. 
Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying to secure 
a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a trap to catch 
the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and took her to the 
vet, and she tested positive for feline leukemia. 
I was so devastated because I guess we all agreed we would take this new 
little gift on as she literally had landed in front of our door. She is so 
lively and playful so we are hopeful. Our vet is really kind and good. He did 
note that she might not live very long because she tested positive and has 
enlarged glands but we are hopeful.  I am now emailing many groups who work 
with feral cats about getting a trap to catch the mom and have her fixed.

Regarding kitten, we are keeping her, we are very sad but we will take care of 
her because she is so lovely and we want to offer her the best possible life 
until she is sick. If she is sick, we have read many reports which note that 
testing kitten for feline leukemia before 6months can usually show them as 
positive but it's only because of the mothers milk, etc...in them. 

We are also contacting groups to see if there is a person or a family with a 
cat or cats with feline leukemia who would want this new little bundle of joy 
just so she would have playmates. We feel awful because we have her in a 
bedroom, she cannot come to contact with our two other cats who are not FeLV 
positive. We have prepared the room for the kitten and have made a beautiful 
place for her. Lots of toys, kitty condo, obstacle courses so she can play 
around. 

My friend just told me about this group, so I am joining to find out more 
about our options, what to do next regarding our other cats, and best ways to 
take care of her.

thanks,

Mary

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Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten

[longhornfans]

Mary, you can get your other cats the FeLV vaccine but it will have to be in 2 
separate shots - 2 weeks apart, then you will have to wait a period of time 
before the shots work. 

I hope the kitten clears the virus, there is that chance. 

Blessings to all -
Lynda
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Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:59:46 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FeLV Kitten

Thanks for taking this little one in. I mix all my FeLv positive cats with my 
negative cats. My negative cats are fully vaccinated. I've been mixing my cats 
for 13 years, on the advice of my former vet. I suggest you search the archives 
on mixing for more info.
Swollen glands could just mean a treatable infection. Don't assume everything 
is FeLV related. Treat illness like you would with any other cat.
Beth


Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

There is a cat who comes by my house and I have been feeding her for over 
three years. I have tried to trap her previously but she stops eating as soon 
as the trap appears so I gave up assuming she had been checked and spayed. 
Last week, she came with a small kitten and I worked hard on trying to secure 
a trap to catch the mom or kitten. I have been unable to get a trap to catch 
the mom yet. Last Thursday morning, I caught the kitten and took her to the 
vet, and she tested positive for feline leukemia. 
I was so devastated because I guess we all agreed we would take this new 
little gift on as she literally had landed in front of our door. She is so 
lively and playful so we are hopeful. Our vet is really kind and good. He did 
note that she might not live very long because she tested positive and has 
enlarged glands but we are hopeful.  I am now emailing many groups who work 
with feral cats about getting a trap to catch the mom and have her fixed.

Regarding kitten, we are keeping her, we are very sad but we will take care of 
her because she is so lovely and we want to offer her the best possible life 
until she is sick. If she is sick, we have read many reports which note that 
testing kitten for feline leukemia before 6months can usually show them as 
positive but it's only because of the mothers milk, etc...in them. 

We are also contacting groups to see if there is a person or a family with a 
cat or cats with feline leukemia who would want this new little bundle of joy 
just so she would have playmates. We feel awful because we have her in a 
bedroom, she cannot come to contact with our two other cats who are not FeLV 
positive. We have prepared the room for the kitten and have made a beautiful 
place for her. Lots of toys, kitty condo, obstacle courses so she can play 
around. 

My friend just told me about this group, so I am joining to find out more 
about our options, what to do next regarding our other cats, and best ways to 
take care of her.

thanks,

Mary

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Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

[Marcia Baronda]

My vet said as long as there are Felv+ cats that the negatives are exposed to. 

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
 Hi Everyone
  
 I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious 
 cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, 
 and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(
  
 Details:
 Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
 He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
 skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round 
 of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
 completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
 a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.
  
 Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
 currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
 This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
 don't think it is related.
  
 Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
 him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.
  
 If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:
  
 Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else 
 be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
 Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
 Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
 the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I 
 being naive here? Should we find him another home?
 Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives 
 with a reasonable quality?
  
 Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.
  
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[Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

[Vicky Eyal]

Hi Everyone

I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious 
cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and 
of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

Details:
Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He 
was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny 
side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of 
cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a 
general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This 
has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think 
it is related.

Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep 
him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not 
noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to 
start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be 
better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably 
sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost 
weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with 
us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must 
have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the 
face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being 
naive here? Should we find him another home?
Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives 
with a reasonable quality?

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[GRAS]

Hi, Vicky,

Welcome!  My first suggestion would be to start them on some really good
vitamin supplements, good food, building up their natural immune systems.  I
have always given my FIV/FeLV cats 50mg of CoQ10 daily in their food. Get
the GNC Vegetarian formula because it's in powder form, easily opened (get
100mg caps). The first things that seem to show trouble are gums and teeth -
that's why CoQ10 is so great!  Any time there's the slightest sniffle, take
care of it.  Have never had a cat with FIP (wet or dry from). I'm sure
others will have advice about other treatments for you.

If kitty #3 was negative, and vaccinated, no reason not to keep him!

Natalie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Vicky Eyal
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

 

Hi Everyone

 

I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3
precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV
positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

 

Details:

Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all.
He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the
skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round
of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't
completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more
just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

 

Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He
currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot.
This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I
don't think it is related.

 

Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had
him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster
4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

 

If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

 

Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him
up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he
is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our
vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something
else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is
noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?

Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't
lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.

Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of
thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then
neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled
with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he
must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on
the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I
being naive here? Should we find him another home?

Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys'
lives with a reasonable quality?

 

Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

 

Vicky

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Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

[Kathryn Hargreaves]

Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:

 **
 Hi Everyone

 I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

 Details:
 Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at
 all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on
 the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a
 round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still
 isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours,
 more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

 Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP).
 He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a
 lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so
 I don't think it is related.

 Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We
 had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the
 booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every
 year.

 If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

 Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something
 else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
 Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
 Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him
 on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I
 being naive here? Should we find him another home?
 Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys'
 lives with a reasonable quality?

 Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

[GRAS]

YES!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

 

Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?



On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:

Hi Everyone

 

I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious 
cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and 
of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

 

Details:

Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He 
was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny 
side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of 
cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a 
general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

 

Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This 
has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think 
it is related.

 

Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

 

If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

 

Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep 
him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not 
noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to 
start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be 
better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably 
sick? What is the recommended dosage here?

Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost 
weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.

Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with 
us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must 
have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the 
face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being 
naive here? Should we find him another home?

Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives 
with a reasonable quality?

 

Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

 

Vicky


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[Lee Evans]

There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona virus.  
Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP is caused 
by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to 
contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's definitely not very 
prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and never got 
FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona virus.  He 
had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract.  
He was also a street cat, in poor health in general.  Lee




From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


YES!
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
Hi Everyone
 
I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious 
cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and 
of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(
 
Details:
Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He 
was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny 
side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of 
cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a 
general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.
 
Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This 
has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think 
it is related.
 
Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.
 
If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:
 
Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep 
him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not 
noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to 
start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be 
better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably 
sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost 
weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with 
us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must 
have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the 
face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being 
naive here? Should we find him another home?
Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives 
with a reasonable quality?
 
Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

[Christiane Biagi]

Maybe she meant FIV?

Christiane Biagi
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Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's definitely 
not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and 
never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona 
virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to 
contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in general.  Lee




From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


YES!
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
Hi Everyone
 
I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious 
cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and 
of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(
 
Details:
Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He 
was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny 
side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of 
cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.
 
Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't 
think it is related.
 
Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.
 
If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:
 
Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is 
not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to 
start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be 
better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably 
sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost 
weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being 
naive here? Should we find him another home?
Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives 
with a reasonable quality?
 
Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

[GRAS]

http://www.petwave.com/Cats/Health/Digestive/FIP/Diagnosis.aspx There's a lot 
of info on FIP diagnosing, but I'm sure that the vet based his opinion on many 
things described in this little piece, also depending on what type (wet/dry) it 
is.  And, yes, it IS a  corona virus, which all cats have had at some time,  
and the nose drop vaccine given to a cat can also fool a vet about the 
diagnosis (I doubt, though, that a rescue cat would have had it).


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

Maybe she meant FIV?

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get 
ill.  FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are 
genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare 
but it's definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested 
above 400 for corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely 
had FIP but tested very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been 
exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a 
street cat, in poor health in general.  Lee





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[Felvtalk] new member

[MaryAnn Riggs]

Hi all.

My name is MaryAnn Riggs in southeastern Wisconsin.  I've been reading comments 
for sometime, just haven't introduced myself yet.

Is there anyone on this list from Wisconsin?  

thanks-mar
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Re: [Felvtalk] new member

[Lorrie]

Welcome to the group, MaryAnn.  You'll find a lot of knowledgable
people here.  Tell us about your cats.

Lorrie  in WV

On 01-09, MaryAnn Riggs wrote:
Hi all.
My name is MaryAnn Riggs in southeastern Wisconsin.  I've been reading
comments for sometime, just haven't introduced myself yet.
Is there anyone on this list from Wisconsin?
thanks-mar


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Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group

[Lorrie]

Welcome to the group Holly.  You'll learn some very valuable things
here. I do rescue work and have 15 rescued cats at home plus more in
my cageless shelter in town.  Some of the cats in my shelter are FelV
positive, but seem to be doing well in spite of it.  FelV supresses
the cat's immune system and it's important to catch any illnesses
right away and treat them. This is what I do, but I've never used
heroic measure such as blood transfusions or Interferon. However many
of the others in this group have.

Lorrie


On 12-29, Holly Shelton wrote:
Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment and introduce myself.  I am a
huge  cat  lover.  I volunteer at an animal sanctuary and take care of
the  cats  there  as well.  I have extensive knowledge of diabetes and
CRF, but leukemia is new to me.
 
About  a  month  ago, I noticed that my 4 year old Siamese mix,
Daisy, was feeling a bit off so we ran some blood work and she
came back severely anemic. I rushed her into the ER, where she
stayed for three days and had two blood transfusions and put on
various types of meds.

 Unfortunately,  her  body  just gave out and my cat sitter, who
works with my vet, called me when I was out of town with my dad
in the hospital, and said that they thought it was Daisy's time. 
We believe that she had leukemia.  She was vaccinated, but
perhaps it was dormant until recently. (Dad's ok). I have three
other cats of my own and had them tested and subsequently
vaccinated.  My 6 year old Siamese, Oliver, tested positive
after having the ELISA and IFA tests.  I want to see what I can
do to help give him a good quality of life.  I am checking out
this website and look forward to gaining the knowledge I need
to.  My vet and I were talking about interferon, omega fatty
3's, pet-tinic, etc.  He is used to me doing my own research as
I reversed the CRF and diabetes with an older cat who passed of
liver failure, mainly by seeing what real people did to help
their cats. I also have three foster cats, who live in their own
room, and they tested negative and were also vaccinated. I look
forward to hearing everyone's thoughts, and of course, pouring
over the website. Thanks, Holl


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[Beth]

So sorry about Daisy. I had a brother  sister FeLV positive. I lost the sister 
about a  year ago to lymphoma, but the brother is doing well, so every cat is 
different in how they react to this virus. 

I don't do anything special except feed them well. They get Blue Buffalo dry 
food. You can give interferon as a preventative.L-Lysine can be sprinkled on 
their food. My feeling is if it doesn't stress them out to give them a 
supplement then do it. But if you have to chase them down to give them 
something, you are stressing them out  doing more harm than good. 

I don't go through any heroic measures. The one time I did that it broke my 
heart because I put the cat through so much needless pain at the end. That 
being said, some people here do,  it works out. It is a personal choice.

BTW this is Feline Leukemia (FeLV) not Leukemia. They are totally different. I 
had a friend with a cat who had Leukemia.


Beth

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 From: Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group
 

Hi. Not exactly sure with Daisy as it all happened so quickly. The vet ran what 
I assume was the ELISA, as she was dying. He did not do the IFA.   I am 
interested in seeing how I can make Oliver's life as full of a life as it can 
be.  I was told that he has leukemia. I can confirm that with the vet when we 
go over treatment tomorrow.



-Original Message-
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2011 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group


 
There is a difference between leukemia and Feline Leukemia Virus; which did 
Daisy have? I’ve had cats with either one. 
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Holly Shelton
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] new to the group
 
Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment and introduce myself.  I am a huge cat 
lover.  I volunteer at an animal sanctuary and take care of the cats there as 
well.  I have extensive knowledge of diabetes and CRF, but leukemia is new to 
me.   
 
About a month ago, I noticed that my 4 year old Siamese mix, Daisy, was feeling 
a bit off so we ran some blood work and she came back severely anemic. I 
rushed her into the ER, where she stayed for three days and had two blood 
transfusions and put on various types of meds.  Unfortunately, her body just 
gave out and my cat sitter, who works with my vet, called me when I was out of 
town with my dad in the hospital, and said that they thought it was Daisy's 
time.  We believe that she had leukemia.  She was vaccinated, but perhaps it 
was dormant until recently. (Dad's ok).
 
I have three other cats of my own and had them tested and subsequently 
vaccinated.  My 6 year old Siamese, Oliver, tested positive after having the 
ELISA and IFA tests.  I want to see what I can do to help give him a good 
quality of life.  I am checking out this website and look forward to gaining 
the knowledge I need to.  My vet and I were talking about interferon, omega 
fatty 3's, pet-tinic, etc.  He is used to me doing my own research as I 
reversed the CRF and diabetes with an older cat who passed of liver failure, 
mainly by seeing what real people did to help their cats. 
 
I also have three foster cats, who live in their own room, and they tested 
negative and were also vaccinated.
 
I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts, and of course, pouring over the 
website.
 
Thanks,
 
Holly
 
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[Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens

[chris]

Hi all,

 

I'm new to the group.  I do Cat rescue for a Northern Virginia group and
took in 3 Persian Mix bottle babies (one female, two male) in November.
They were all scheduled for adoption at 8 weeks and the first one out tested
FeLV+.  All adoptions fell through.  They are gorgeous and affectionate.
They are now 10 weeks old.  All are ELISA + and one tested IFA +. It is
assumed that they received FeLV from the missing mother.  What are the
chances of finding adoptive homes for them? Or should I be looking for a
sanctuary?

 

Chris

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens

[GRAS]

Chris,

Since the kittens are now 10 weeks old now, how old were they when they were
first tested?  And how much time elapsed between the ELISA and the IFA
tests? This might mean something...this might mean that maybe they're not
really positive.  Always a chance for hope. Finding homes, not so great -
sanctuaries, far and in-between and filled. Try finding someone who already
has a FeLV+ cat - best chance.

Good luck!

Natalie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of chris
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens

 

Hi all,

 

I'm new to the group.  I do Cat rescue for a Northern Virginia group and
took in 3 Persian Mix bottle babies (one female, two male) in November.
They were all scheduled for adoption at 8 weeks and the first one out tested
FeLV+.  All adoptions fell through.  They are gorgeous and affectionate.
They are now 10 weeks old.  All are ELISA + and one tested IFA +. It is
assumed that they received FeLV from the missing mother.  What are the
chances of finding adoptive homes for them? Or should I be looking for a
sanctuary?

 

Chris

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens

[Maureen Olvey]

The answer is yes.  I would try to find adoptive homes but also look into 
sanctuaries.  Obviously adoptive homes would be better and there's a chance.  
Not a very high chance they could get a home but at least being persian mixes 
they might can find a home with someone who has FeLV + cats.  It will be hard 
finding them homes because most kittens (not all) that have FeLV will not live 
past 3 years old so finding someone who is willing to have their heart broken 
after just a short time will be hard.  

Definitely test later on like Natalie said.  Kittens normally can't get rid of 
the virus but it's always best to give them more time then repeat the test.  In 
the mean time I would go ahead and put them up for adoption as a FeLV + kitten, 
if they're healthy right now that is.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:36:40 -0500
From: ch...@beyondbehaviors.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens





















Hi all,

 

I’m new to the group.  I do Cat
rescue for a Northern
 Virginia group and
took in 3 Persian Mix bottle babies (one female, two male) in November. 
They were all scheduled for adoption at 8 weeks and the first one out tested
FeLV+.  All adoptions fell through.  They are gorgeous and
affectionate. They are now 10 weeks old.  All are ELISA + and one tested
IFA +. It is assumed that they received FeLV from the missing mother.  What
are the chances of finding adoptive homes for them? Or should I be looking for
a sanctuary?

 

Chris









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[Felvtalk] new to the group

[Holly Shelton]

Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment and introduce myself.  I am a huge cat 
lover.  I volunteer at an animal sanctuary and take care of the cats there as 
well.  I have extensive knowledge of diabetes and CRF, but leukemia is new to 
me.  


About a month ago, I noticed that my 4 year old Siamese mix, Daisy, was feeling 
a bit off so we ran some blood work and she came back severely anemic. I 
rushed her into the ER, where she stayed for three days and had two blood 
transfusions and put on various types of meds.  Unfortunately, her body just 
gave out and my cat sitter, who works with my vet, called me when I was out of 
town with my dad in the hospital, and said that they thought it was Daisy's 
time.  We believe that she had leukemia.  She was vaccinated, but perhaps it 
was dormant until recently. (Dad's ok).


I have three other cats of my own and had them tested and subsequently 
vaccinated.  My 6 year old Siamese, Oliver, tested positive after having the 
ELISA and IFA tests.  I want to see what I can do to help give him a good 
quality of life.  I am checking out this website and look forward to gaining 
the knowledge I need to.  My vet and I were talking about interferon, omega 
fatty 3's, pet-tinic, etc.  He is used to me doing my own research as I 
reversed the CRF and diabetes with an older cat who passed of liver failure, 
mainly by seeing what real people did to help their cats. 


I also have three foster cats, who live in their own room, and they tested 
negative and were also vaccinated.


I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts, and of course, pouring over the 
website.


Thanks,


Holl


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Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group

[GRAS]

There is a difference between leukemia and Feline Leukemia Virus; which did
Daisy have? I've had cats with either one. 

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Holly Shelton
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] new to the group

 

Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment and introduce myself.  I am a huge
cat lover.  I volunteer at an animal sanctuary and take care of the cats
there as well.  I have extensive knowledge of diabetes and CRF, but leukemia
is new to me.   

 

About a month ago, I noticed that my 4 year old Siamese mix, Daisy, was
feeling a bit off so we ran some blood work and she came back severely
anemic. I rushed her into the ER, where she stayed for three days and had
two blood transfusions and put on various types of meds.  Unfortunately, her
body just gave out and my cat sitter, who works with my vet, called me when
I was out of town with my dad in the hospital, and said that they thought it
was Daisy's time.  We believe that she had leukemia.  She was vaccinated,
but perhaps it was dormant until recently. (Dad's ok).

 

I have three other cats of my own and had them tested and subsequently
vaccinated.  My 6 year old Siamese, Oliver, tested positive after having the
ELISA and IFA tests.  I want to see what I can do to help give him a good
quality of life.  I am checking out this website and look forward to gaining
the knowledge I need to.  My vet and I were talking about interferon, omega
fatty 3's, pet-tinic, etc.  He is used to me doing my own research as I
reversed the CRF and diabetes with an older cat who passed of liver failure,
mainly by seeing what real people did to help their cats. 

 

I also have three foster cats, who live in their own room, and they tested
negative and were also vaccinated.

 

I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts, and of course, pouring over
the website.

 

Thanks,

 

Holl

 

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[Holly Shelton]

Hi. Not exactly sure with Daisy as it all happened so quickly. The vet ran what 
I assume was the ELISA, as she was dying. He did not do the IFA.   I am 
interested in seeing how I can make Oliver's life as full of a life as it can 
be.  I was told that he has leukemia. I can confirm that with the vet when we 
go over treatment tomorrow.



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Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2011 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new to the group



There is a difference between leukemia and Feline Leukemia Virus; which did 
Daisy have? I’ve had cats with either one. 
 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Holly Shelton
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] new to the group

 
Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment and introduce myself.  I am a huge cat 
lover.  I volunteer at an animal sanctuary and take care of the cats there as 
well.  I have extensive knowledge of diabetes and CRF, but leukemia is new to 
me.   

 

About a month ago, I noticed that my 4 year old Siamese mix, Daisy, was feeling 
a bit off so we ran some blood work and she came back severely anemic. I 
rushed her into the ER, where she stayed for three days and had two blood 
transfusions and put on various types of meds.  Unfortunately, her body just 
gave out and my cat sitter, who works with my vet, called me when I was out of 
town with my dad in the hospital, and said that they thought it was Daisy's 
time.  We believe that she had leukemia.  She was vaccinated, but perhaps it 
was dormant until recently. (Dad's ok).

 

I have three other cats of my own and had them tested and subsequently 
vaccinated.  My 6 year old Siamese, Oliver, tested positive after having the 
ELISA and IFA tests.  I want to see what I can do to help give him a good 
quality of life.  I am checking out this website and look forward to gaining 
the knowledge I need to.  My vet and I were talking about interferon, omega 
fatty 3's, pet-tinic, etc.  He is used to me doing my own research as I 
reversed the CRF and diabetes with an older cat who passed of liver failure, 
mainly by seeing what real people did to help their cats. 

 

I also have three foster cats, who live in their own room, and they tested 
negative and were also vaccinated.

 

I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts, and of course, pouring over the 
website.

 

Thanks,

 

Holly

 


 
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[danbin...@netzero.com]

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was unable 
to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I was 
unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She decided, 
with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 
years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which 
was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old 
rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any 
cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster to the 
vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn 
for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, 
this time

Thank you so much

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[Beth]

Debbie -

There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old 
cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous 
test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a 
positive test.
Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction 
with a specific medical diagnosis.
Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he 
cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?

Beth

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was unable 
to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I was 
unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She decided, 
with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 
years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which 
was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old 
rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any 
cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster to the 
vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn 
for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, 
this time

Thank you so much

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[Marta Gasper]

Debbie
Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got here_I 
agree with Beth.
The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for 
sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an IFA, 
though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result is what 
it is.
I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no 
diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I wouldn't 
give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the inmune system, 
the last thing any cat needs.
However if he has stomatitis I would.
I've had and have FeLV+s cats.
The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has a 
chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he 
staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because can't 
coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he has 
lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does.
Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most 
cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better 
life now tho very limited.
Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions, stomatitis 
or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids or 
glucocorticoids.
M

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM





Debbie -


There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year old 
cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his previous 
test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to show a 
positive test.
Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction 
with a specific medical diagnosis.
Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad he 
cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?


Beth

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From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was unable 
to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I was 
unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She decided, 
with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 2 
years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test which 
was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year old 
rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there any 
cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster to the 
vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a big turn 
for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I don't think so, 
this time

Thank you so much

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[Beth]

A lot of vets think Stomatitis = FeLV, so that may be why she said she thought 
he had it.
Only one of my FeLV cats ever got Stomatitis  I had a negative cat that did 
have it.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member


Debbie
Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got here_I 
agree with Beth.
The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for 
sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an IFA, 
though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result is what 
it is.
I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no 
diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I wouldn't 
give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the inmune system, 
the last thing any cat needs.
However if he has stomatitis I would.
I've had and have FeLV+s cats.
The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has a 
chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he 
staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because can't 
coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he has 
lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does.
Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most 
cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better 
life now tho very limited.
Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions, stomatitis 
or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids or 
glucocorticoids.
M

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new member
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM


Debbie -


There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year 
old cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his 
previous test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork to 
show a positive test.
Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction 
with a specific medical diagnosis.
Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad 
he cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?


Beth

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was unable 
to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I was 
unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She decided, 
with the information that she had, that Buster had cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs
 for 2 years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test 
which was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year 
old rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there 
any cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster 
to the vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a 
big turn for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding),
 but I don't think so, this time

Thank you so much

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[Natalie]

Hi, everyone..I am in Mexico, and therefore not on the computer as often as
at home.

Re: prednisone - Sox, one of our five FIV+ cats, has severe stomatitis;  he
gets a prednisone injection about every three months; he also gets a few
drops of DMG in his food every day.  The vet says that he's doing really
well, because normally cats would get a monthly injection.  Sox sometimes
exceeds the three months..once we notice that his stomatitis is bothering
him (he won't eat), he gets another shot of prednisone. They all get CoQ10
to keep their gums in good shape (about 30-50mg daily), GNC Vegetarian
formula because it comes in powder from in capsules, easy to mix into the
food.  I get 100mg caps, and divide them up.  Natalie

 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Debbie

Welcome to the group_albeit circumstances but thats how most of us got
here_I agree with Beth.

The symptoms you describe could be a number of diseases. No way to tell for
sure if he has FeLV until he's been tested with a definitive test like an
IFA, though in his case and given his age I'd say his former negative result
is what it is.

I wonder why the vet thought it could be FeLV, specially since he has no
diarrea/soft stools, blood disorders(wich show as blodd in stool). I
wouldn't give him pred unless it is just supportve care, it suppreses the
inmune system, the last thing any cat needs.

However if he has stomatitis I would.

I've had and have FeLV+s cats.

The one I've now is close to last stages, he's playful and animated but has
a chronic URI, soft stools and bloody diahrrea, thrifty coat, sometimes he
staggers, keeps getting sores, sneezes blood sometimes, that is because
can't coagulate well, eats like a horse and hasn't gained an ounce. Well he
has lately but my other cats would be basketballs if they ate like he does.

Besides he tested twice + on the ELISA and comes from a household where most
cats were FeLV+. A hoarding situation, very sad but at least he has a better
life now tho very limited.

Anyways I'd run a test first, to me I wouldn't jump to conclusions,
stomatitis or other disorder sure could be. Don't put him on pred(steroids
or glucocorticoids.

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Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 5:06 PM

Debbie -

 

There is no way to tell is he has FeLV without a blood test.Was the 11 year
old cat tested for FeLV? Just wondering how he would have gotten it if his
previous test were negative, though it can take 3 months for the bloodwork
to show a positive test.

Prednisone depresses the immune system  should only be used in conjunction
with a specific medical diagnosis.

Are his gums pink? He may be suffering from anemia. Is the stomatitis so bad
he cannot eat? Was the Pred given to him for the Stomatitis?

 

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From: danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com
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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was
unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I
was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She
decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had
cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for
2 years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat,
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test
which was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year
old rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there
any cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster
to the vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a
big turn for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I
don't think so, this time

Thank you so much

Re: [Felvtalk] new member

[Natalie]

If no blood tests were taken, then there's no way the vet can tell what's
wrong with Buster.
At his age, he could have renal failure and /or hyperthyroidism, treatable.
If it's his thyroid, I just found out that Felimazole can be gotten from
Drs. Foster  Smith very inexpensively; Tapazole and Methimazole are a lot
more expensive anywhere else.  
There's no reason to do an ultrasound if no blood tests were taken to
determine and to rule out anything.
Natalie

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Subject: [Felvtalk] new member

Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.

I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.

He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was
unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I
was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She
decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had
cholangiohepatitis.

Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)

After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for
2 years.

Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I
described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver
disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:
little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat,
occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.

In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test
which was negative.

I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year
old rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only

I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there
any cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster
to the vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a
big turn for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I
don't think so, this time

Thank you so much

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Re: [Felvtalk] new member

[dlgegg]

Many on this group usseother meds and ntural remdies for felv.  I don't like 
predesone, had it during my cancer and it messes everything up.  My felv's are 
in great shape, so are my negatives.  I will pray for you and Buster and leave 
the advise up to th others who have dealt with this mjore.

 danbin...@netzero.com danbin...@netzero.com wrote: 
 Boy, am I glad to find this website and group.
 
 I think my kitty, Buster (15 yo, neutered male), has FeLV.
 
 He stopped eating about 2 1/2 years ago.  I took him to the vet who was 
 unable to diagnose what was wrong with Buster, even after several visits.  I 
 was unable to get an ultrasound, which she said was the next step.  She 
 decided, with the information that she had, that Buster had 
 cholangiohepatitis.
 
 Vet put him on 5 mg prednisolone and Cyroheptadine (appetite stimulant)
 
 After trying to wean him off, unsuccessfully, he had been on these drugs for 
 2 years.
 
 Yesterday, I was speaking to a (different) vet on the phone, and when I 
 described Buster she said she thought FeLV.  She said if he had a liver 
 disease, I would see jaundice.  Buster does have a number of clinical signs:  
 little appetite, slow but extreme weight loss, minor stomatitis, poor coat, 
 occasional eye problems.  No fever, no wounds, no diarrhea.
 
 In 2009, Buster's last blood test (which was fine), he had the ELISA test 
 which was negative.
 
 I forgot to mention that Buster did not get sick until I brought an 11 year 
 old rescue into the home.  All of my cats (3) are indoor only
 
 I guess my question, after this very long explanation (sorry), is are there 
 any cats being treated only with prednisolone?  I am not able to take Buster 
 to the vet due to a number of reasons.  After almost 3 years, he has taken a 
 big turn for the worse.  Usually, rebounds (with syringe feeding), but I 
 don't think so, this time
 
 Thank you so much
 
 debbie   buster 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

[dlgegg]

I asked my vet about it nd he said is much more expensive.  We are in a rural 
area andfinding a vet who does that would mean traveling 50 miles with 2 cats 
at a time saying nw all the way.


 Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I meant to buy it to use ourselves. It sounds like the swine flu vaccine I 
 got in 76?. They did it with a gun like that. Man was I stupid to get that 
 vaccine!  Well, young and stupid. I listened to the fear mongers(-:
 
 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
 2010. 
 
 On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote:
 
  This is the vaccine my C.J. just got in the past month.  It's supposed to 
  be about 99% effective according to the literature and much safer in regard 
  to the chance of vaccine-related sarcoma.  My understanding is that it's 
  what vets who keep up with the cutting edge are using now.
  
  I don't know what you mean about buy it outright ... it requires a 
  special tool called a VetJet to administer -- kind of shoots it through the 
  skin at high velocity with a big pop.  It looks like a cordless drill!
  
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[Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

[Natalie]

http://www.petplace.com/cats/new-needle-less-vaccine-for-feline-leukemia-vir
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[Marcia]

I have looked all over for this. I assume we can't buy it outright?

Marcia

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Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

[Natalie]

I don’t know, I suppose you could check around or ask the question at this 
link.  I just discovered it myself.

Natalie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

 

I have looked all over for this. I assume we can't buy it outright?

 

Marcia

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Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

[Beth]

Vet Jet has been around for quite awhile. My old vet started using it right 
before she sold her practice,  that was over 10 years ago. We used it for 
awhile at the shelter. They may have stopped using it because of the cost.
It made a sound kind of like a nail gun.

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From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV


I don’t know, I suppose you could check around or ask the question at this 
link.  I just discovered it myself.
Natalie
 
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV
 
I have looked all over for this. I assume we can't buy it outright?
 
Marcia

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Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

[Anne Myles]

This is the vaccine my C.J. just got in the past month.  It's supposed 
to be about 99% effective according to the literature and much safer in 
regard to the chance of vaccine-related sarcoma.  My understanding is 
that it's what vets who keep up with the cutting edge are using now.


I don't know what you mean about buy it outright ... it requires a 
special tool called a VetJet to administer -- kind of shoots it through 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

[TANYA NOE]

The vet jet has been around for a while and I think is definitely safer than 
the old stand by needle. They had them at the clinic I interned at in 2008. I 
haven't seen a practice that didn't have one since. I would drive to another 
vet before going back to the needle.

Tanya

--- On Wed, 11/2/11, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote:

 From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 12:50 PM
 This is the vaccine my C.J. just got
 in the past month.  It's supposed to be about 99%
 effective according to the literature and much safer in
 regard to the chance of vaccine-related sarcoma.  My
 understanding is that it's what vets who keep up with the
 cutting edge are using now.
 
 I don't know what you mean about buy it outright ... it
 requires a special tool called a VetJet to administer --
 kind of shoots it through the skin at high velocity with a
 big pop.  It looks like a cordless drill!
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

[Marcia Baronda]

I meant to buy it to use ourselves. It sounds like the swine flu vaccine I got 
in 76?. They did it with a gun like that. Man was I stupid to get that vaccine! 
 Well, young and stupid. I listened to the fear mongers(-:

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote:

 This is the vaccine my C.J. just got in the past month.  It's supposed to be 
 about 99% effective according to the literature and much safer in regard to 
 the chance of vaccine-related sarcoma.  My understanding is that it's what 
 vets who keep up with the cutting edge are using now.
 
 I don't know what you mean about buy it outright ... it requires a special 
 tool called a VetJet to administer -- kind of shoots it through the skin at 
 high velocity with a big pop.  It looks like a cordless drill!
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV

[TANYA NOE]

It can only be given by clinics, the vet jet is very expensive so it wouldn't 
be something that you would want to purchase on your own.

Tanya

--- On Wed, 11/2/11, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New needle-less vaccine for FeLV
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 1:10 PM
 I meant to buy it to use ourselves.
 It sounds like the swine flu vaccine I got in 76?. They did
 it with a gun like that. Man was I stupid to get that
 vaccine!  Well, young and stupid. I listened to the
 fear mongers(-:
 
 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me
 with, Christmas 2010. 
 
 On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu
 wrote:
 
  This is the vaccine my C.J. just got in the past
 month.  It's supposed to be about 99% effective
 according to the literature and much safer in regard to the
 chance of vaccine-related sarcoma.  My understanding is
 that it's what vets who keep up with the cutting edge are
 using now.
  
  I don't know what you mean about buy it outright ...
 it requires a special tool called a VetJet to administer --
 kind of shoots it through the skin at high velocity with a
 big pop.  It looks like a cordless drill!
  
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[Felvtalk] New member (correcting an error)

[Anne Myles]

I meant to write, of course, that I was told that false POSITIVES are 
common but false negatives are virtually unheard of.  My vet kind of 
shrugged when I told him that, though no one can give me a good account 
of why Dublin had a negative ELISA on his re-test when he is very 
clearly positive.  Anyway, he's a lucky, lucky little kitty, as that 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member (correcting an error)

[Melinda Kerr]

They are both so cute and look quite at home in your house. I'm glad you decided to keep both. I have 2 positives (may have caused the second by mixing too young too soon:( However, I have no regrets because they are best friends! Even though one has suffered from lymphoma (in remission for 15 months) the other has been asymptomatic and both are happy and relatively healthy.Good luck to you and your new family!On Nov 02, 2011, at 06:41 AM, Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu wrote:I meant to write, of course, that I was told that false POSITIVES are  common but false negatives are virtually unheard of. My vet kind of  shrugged when I told him that, though no one can give me a good account  of why Dublin had a negative ELISA on his re-test when he is very  clearly positive. Anyway, he's a lucky, lucky little kitty, as that  false negative landed him in a home.  ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___
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Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten/QUESTION

[Beth]

I've mixed for years. You might want to search the archives for mixing as 
this is a common question  you will find lots of info. I always make sure any 
cat that hs tested positive has 2 negative Elisa tests b4 feeling confident.
Beth

dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote:

But what about mixing when the healthy male cat likes to bite and plays rough 
with the FELV pos cat?  They wrestle, lick, groom together and bite/nip as 
they play and cuddle and sleep together.   Has anyone had mixed cats that do 
this and my question is, is it safe in that situation?  It's one thing if they 
are all just hanging out but if there is close contact, what is the consensus? 
 Is that a safe situation for mixing the positive and negative ones?  Curious 
to know.  Please respond.  Dotty  - Freehold



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Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten


Ditto. I've mixed mine for years, had negatives re-tested numerous times  all 
is well. I even had an FIV positive cat who mixed with my FelV cats for 10 
years. He never got it, either.
You might search the archives on mixing for more info.

Beth

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Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten

I have 2 positives, one of them over 12 years old, the other about 2
or 3.  Both of them have been intermingling with my negatives
(currently 8 of them) for years.  I keep the negatives up to date on
vaccinations and haven't yet had one turn positive although I kept the
very young cats away from them until they were older and thru the full
series of vaccinations.


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 My cat, Tigger is almost 5. he was born with FeLV. he lives with my other 5
 cats, ranging in age from 1 to 15. none of the others have teste=d positive,
 and they are checked yearly



 
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 To: quot;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgquot;
 lt;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orggt;
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 7:19 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten


 Message body
 I was apart of this list 09/2000 when my husband and I adopted 3 kittens,
 and all tested positive. We lost little Vinnie at 8 months due to lymphoma,
 Molly developed lymphoma and we treated it. She lived 4 years, the lymphoma
 never came back, the feline leukemia took her life. Toots lived 9 years, no
 problems until the last month of his life he developed bone cancer. All 3 of
 my babies received interferon and dimethylglycine every night. Two years ago
 we adopted 2 more kittens, they were negative.
 This past Friday my
 neighbor's daughter found a cute orange tabby kitten and asked us if we
 wanted him.  He tested positive, but it is not in his bone marrow. I have
 everyone separated, and am looking for a home. I know may people mix
 positive with negative cats, can you please tell if there are success
 stories out there or if negative cats became positive. Thanks, Jo Ann

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Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten/QUESTION

[dlgegg]

So far, all of mine are healthy and they squabble all the time, drink from the 
same water fountain and eat from the same bowls, use the same boxes.  Just keep 
the negatives vaccinnated.

 Beth Noren maxgoodb...@gmail.com wrote: 
 My positive grew up wrestling with his two negative brothers and they were
 fine.  They initially all tested negative, so some of the tussling happened
 before
 the neg's were vaccinated, and still no transmission.  Once Will tested
 positive, we vaccinated the neg's.  Will lived with them until he passed at
 3.5 years.
 
 Best wishes,
 Beth
 
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  But what about mixing when the healthy male cat likes to bite and plays
  rough with the FELV pos cat?  They wrestle, lick, groom together and
  bite/nip as they play and cuddle and sleep together.   Has anyone had mixed
  cats that do this and my question is, is it safe in that situation? ...
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten/QUESTION

[dot winkler]

But what about mixing when the healthy male cat likes to bite and plays rough 
with the FELV pos cat?  They wrestle, lick, groom together and bite/nip as they 
play and cuddle and sleep together.   Has anyone had mixed cats that do this 
and my question is, is it safe in that situation?  It's one thing if they are 
all just hanging out but if there is close contact, what is the consensus?  Is 
that a safe situation for mixing the positive and negative ones?  Curious to 
know.  Please respond.  Dotty  - Freehold



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Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten


Ditto. I've mixed mine for years, had negatives re-tested numerous times  all 
is well. I even had an FIV positive cat who mixed with my FelV cats for 10 
years. He never got it, either.
You might search the archives on mixing for more info.

Beth

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Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten

I have 2 positives, one of them over 12 years old, the other about 2
or 3.  Both of them have been intermingling with my negatives
(currently 8 of them) for years.  I keep the negatives up to date on
vaccinations and haven't yet had one turn positive although I kept the
very young cats away from them until they were older and thru the full
series of vaccinations.


On 10/8/11, john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 My cat, Tigger is almost 5. he was born with FeLV. he lives with my other 5
 cats, ranging in age from 1 to 15. none of the others have teste=d positive,
 and they are checked yearly



 
 From: JoAnn Fredo lt;jufr...@yahoo.comgt;
 To: quot;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgquot;
 lt;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orggt;
 Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 7:19 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten


 Message body
 I was apart of this list 09/2000 when my husband and I adopted 3 kittens,
 and all tested positive. We lost little Vinnie at 8 months due to lymphoma,
 Molly developed lymphoma and we treated it. She lived 4 years, the lymphoma
 never came back, the feline leukemia took her life. Toots lived 9 years, no
 problems until the last month of his life he developed bone cancer. All 3 of
 my babies received interferon and dimethylglycine every night. Two years ago
 we adopted 2 more kittens, they were negative.
 This past Friday my
 neighbor's daughter found a cute orange tabby kitten and asked us if we
 wanted him.  He tested positive, but it is not in his bone marrow. I have
 everyone separated, and am looking for a home. I know may people mix
 positive with negative cats, can you please tell if there are success
 stories out there or if negative cats became positive. Thanks, Jo Ann

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Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten/QUESTION

[Terri Brown]

Keep the negative up to date on shots and he should be fine.  My opinion.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: dot winklermailto:venus7ora...@yahoo.com 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten/QUESTION


  But what about mixing when the healthy male cat likes to bite and plays rough 
with the FELV pos cat?  They wrestle, lick, groom together and bite/nip as they 
play and cuddle and sleep together.   Has anyone had mixed cats that do this 
and my question is, is it safe in that situation?  It's one thing if they are 
all just hanging out but if there is close contact, what is the consensus?  Is 
that a safe situation for mixing the positive and negative ones?  Curious to 
know.  Please respond.  Dotty  - Freehold



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  From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten


  Ditto. I've mixed mine for years, had negatives re-tested numerous times  
all is well. I even had an FIV positive cat who mixed with my FelV cats for 10 
years. He never got it, either.
  You might search the archives on mixing for more info.


  Beth

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  From: katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 8:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten

  I have 2 positives, one of them over 12 years old, the other about 2
  or 3.  Both of them have been intermingling with my negatives
  (currently 8 of them) for years.  I keep the negatives up to date on
  vaccinations and haven't yet had one turn positive although I kept the
  very young cats away from them until they were older and thru the full
  series of vaccinations.


  On 10/8/11, john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.commailto:bucfa...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
   My cat, Tigger is almost 5. he was born with FeLV. he lives with my other 5
   cats, ranging in age from 1 to 15. none of the others have teste=d positive,
   and they are checked yearly
  
  
  
   
   From: JoAnn Fredo lt;jufr...@yahoo.commailto:jufr...@yahoo.comgt;
   To: 
quot;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgquot;
   lt;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orggt;
   Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 7:19 PM
   Subject: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten
  
  
   Message body
   I was apart of this list 09/2000 when my husband and I adopted 3 kittens,
   and all tested positive. We lost little Vinnie at 8 months due to lymphoma,
   Molly developed lymphoma and we treated it. She lived 4 years, the lymphoma
   never came back, the feline leukemia took her life. Toots lived 9 years, no
   problems until the last month of his life he developed bone cancer. All 3 of
   my babies received interferon and dimethylglycine every night. Two years ago
   we adopted 2 more kittens, they were negative. This past Friday my
   neighbor's daughter found a cute orange tabby kitten and asked us if we
   wanted him.  He tested positive, but it is not in his bone marrow. I have
   everyone separated, and am looking for a home. I know may people mix
   positive with negative cats, can you please tell if there are success
   stories out there or if negative cats became positive. Thanks, Jo Ann
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] new positive kitten/QUESTION

[Beth Noren]

My positive grew up wrestling with his two negative brothers and they were
fine.  They initially all tested negative, so some of the tussling happened
before
the neg's were vaccinated, and still no transmission.  Once Will tested
positive, we vaccinated the neg's.  Will lived with them until he passed at
3.5 years.

Best wishes,
Beth

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:02 AM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote:

 But what about mixing when the healthy male cat likes to bite and plays
 rough with the FELV pos cat?  They wrestle, lick, groom together and
 bite/nip as they play and cuddle and sleep together.   Has anyone had mixed
 cats that do this and my question is, is it safe in that situation? ...

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