[Felvtalk] Thank you

[Lorraine Johnston]

Thank you so much to everyone who has replied regarding handling Baby. The
viewpoints are so useful to me and will be to my cousin as well.

 

Thank you,

 

- Lorraine

 

"Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the things
no one can imagine."  - Alan Turing

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you all. . .

[Ardy Robertson]

Sounds like it might be time for the poem someone sent when we lost Tigg


Lend Me a Kitten
I will lend you a kitten for awhile, God said.
For you to love while he lives, and mourn when he's dead.
Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three.
But will you, 'till I call him back, take care of him for me?
He'll bring his charms to gladden you, and should his stay be brief
You'll always have his memories as solace for your grief.
I cannot promise he will stay, since all from earth return.
But there are lessons taught below I want this kitten to learn.
I've looked the whole world over, in search of teachers true.
And from the folks that crowd life's land, I have chosen you.
Now will you give him all your love, not think the labor vain?
Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again?
I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done'.
For all the joys this kitten brings, the risk of grief we'll run.
We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may.
And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay.
But should you call him back, much sooner than we planned,
We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand.
If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve,
Then in memory of him whom we loved, please help us while we grieve.
When our cherished kitten departs this world of strife,
Please send yet another needing soul for us to love all his life.
Author Unknown

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
kresch...@mchsi.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:31 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you all. . .

How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words
about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some
say there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the
one who has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat
waiting for me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our
shelter arrived to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the
door! In total there were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes.  I saw
a Tux among the mix and am going to see him today. I'm also going to ask the
vet to test him for FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the
litter pan from Zorro just to be on the safe side. 

Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might
know, Ken

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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you all. . .

[Pam Doore]

We each have different needs after a pet pashe's before bringing another
baby home. I adopted Sunny 5 days after Mozart died. Sunny had been my
foster for 2 months.




On Oct 17, 2017 1:29 PM,  wrote:

yOU ARE RIGHT.  iF YOU WAIT FOR GRIEVING TO PASS, A KITTEN MAY DIE.  Right
now is the time to get another one to help in the grieving process.

 kresch...@mchsi.com wrote:
> How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind
words about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another
kitty. Some say there must be adequate time between cats in order to have
honored the one who has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe
there is a cat waiting for me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the
staff of our shelter arrived to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of
cats at the door! In total there were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the
boxes.  I saw a Tux among the mix and am going to see him today. I'm also
going to ask the vet to test him for FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we
must get rid of the litter pan from Zorro just to be on the safe side.
>
> Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might
know,
> Ken
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you all. . .

[dlgegg]

yOU ARE RIGHT.  iF YOU WAIT FOR GRIEVING TO PASS, A KITTEN MAY DIE.  Right now 
is the time to get another one to help in the grieving process.

 kresch...@mchsi.com wrote: 
> How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words 
> about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some 
> say there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the one 
> who has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat waiting 
> for me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our shelter 
> arrived to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the door! In 
> total there were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes.  I saw a Tux 
> among the mix and am going to see him today. I'm also going to ask the vet to 
> test him for FeLv at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the litter 
> pan from Zorro just to be on the safe side. 
> 
> Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might know,
> Ken
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[Felvtalk] Thank you all. . .

[kresch831]

How very kind of you Katherine, Amani, kat and Marlene for your kind words 
about Zorro. We are going to the shelter today to adopt another kitty. Some say 
there must be adequate time between cats in order to have honored the one who 
has passed. Perhaps. I, on the other hand, believe there is a cat waiting for 
me at the shelter. In fact, last Sunday when the staff of our shelter arrived 
to work, they found several U-Haul boxes of cats at the door! In total there 
were 40 kittens to four-year olds in the boxes.  I saw a Tux among the mix and 
am going to see him today. I'm also going to ask the vet to test him for FeLv 
at my cost. Also, I believe we must get rid of the litter pan from Zorro just 
to be on the safe side. 

Again, thank you all for your outreach; it means far more than you might know,
Ken

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[Felvtalk] Thank you all

[Jennifer Olson]

Figaro has appointment Mon afternoon now. All the Z's protocol, retesting &
neutering will get addressed SOON   =~D
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you

[dlgegg]

Find some more to file their garage.  It seemed that when one goes, another 
shows up on my doorstep or at the shelter.  I usually call and ask them for 
special needs because they do not get adopted, just sit in the cages, waiting.  
Even though they may not last long I can give them some love and care for the 
time they have.

 Marsha  wrote: 
> I would like to sincerely thank you all who sent condolences on my loss 
> of Brock, and showed so much compassion and support.  So many kind 
> words!  Brock was my last FeLV+ cat, and now his (and Harley's and 
> Milkdud's) garage domain feels so empty and quiet. The toddler slide I 
> bought for Brock sits unassembled.  I had to buy mouse traps for the 
> first time since 2009 (caught 2 since Brock died).  "The Sound of 
> Silence" performed by Disturbed has become their memorial song.  The 
> main house, however, is not so silent.  11 cats remain (1 for not much 
> longer), and a few of them get pretty chatty.  LOUDLY chatty.  :-P
> 
> All those who care for special needs cats are the bravest of the brave, 
> and anybody (ESPECIALLY a therapist or counselor) who gets judgey about 
> it - well those people can just go stuff it.
> 
> Marsha
> 
> (who looked for compassion and support in the wrong place, but found it 
> here, with people who understand.  Again, thank you so much.)
> 
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[Felvtalk] Thank you

[Marsha]

I would like to sincerely thank you all who sent condolences on my loss 
of Brock, and showed so much compassion and support.  So many kind 
words!  Brock was my last FeLV+ cat, and now his (and Harley's and 
Milkdud's) garage domain feels so empty and quiet. The toddler slide I 
bought for Brock sits unassembled.  I had to buy mouse traps for the 
first time since 2009 (caught 2 since Brock died).  "The Sound of 
Silence" performed by Disturbed has become their memorial song.  The 
main house, however, is not so silent.  11 cats remain (1 for not much 
longer), and a few of them get pretty chatty.  LOUDLY chatty.  :-P


All those who care for special needs cats are the bravest of the brave, 
and anybody (ESPECIALLY a therapist or counselor) who gets judgey about 
it - well those people can just go stuff it.


Marsha

(who looked for compassion and support in the wrong place, but found it 
here, with people who understand.  Again, thank you so much.)



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[Felvtalk] Thank you!

[Ardy Robertson]

Thank you to everyone for the kind words about my Tigger!  Amani - you are
so correct that "if love could have saved him, he would have lived forever".
. . and to everyone who has sent their sympathies, I do feel better when you
say that I did everything possible for him.

 

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[TANYA NOE]

I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, 
and for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most 
recent research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up 
to date and more sympathetic to FeLV cats.
When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before 
we got her but the clinic did a batch test where they took blood from all 4 
kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the 
mixture). I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. 
Maggie's FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We 
did not find out she was POS until a few months later when she became 
symptomatic and we retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her 
which the vets there were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV 
cats should be destroyed so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree 
with eradicating the disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease 
anywhere as my indoor kitty. 
Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. 
We count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to 
keep Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking 
to everyone on here and getting their advice first too.
Good luck with what ever you do.
Tanya

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:

 From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM
 Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating
 euthanization is a warning sign not to let
 him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up
 to date on the
 latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get
 to maintain
 Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to
 different vets and
 see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of
 some vets who
 treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start
 because they will have
 encountered it before. 
 
 Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to
 vaccinate the
 others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you.
 ;-)
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
 
 I want to thank everyone who responded about my post
 regarding Amber, my
 FeLV positive cat.
 I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the
 health of my other
 cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan
 to be cautious but
 do feel less stressed about it.
 I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is
 nothing like being
 able to get advice from folks who have experienced this
 situation.
 The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her
 test came back
 positive. 
 I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy
 cat. I want to give
 her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come
 back negative.  
 
 Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her
 from starving to death.
 She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting
 every chance I get!
 She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how
 she sits at the
 top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it
 is, I guess. At
 least for now...
 I would love to hear from more folks regarding this
 subject.
 Thanks you all and God Bless!!
 Jannes 
 
 
       
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[Jannes Taylor]

Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA 
test was. He had to go read up about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me he 
was not a cat person. He was the new kid on the block with the four other 
vets 
who are in the same office. Unreal!!
I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly 
check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most of 
during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered 
about 
exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. 
However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the impression 
I 
got.
I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when I 
take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his 
office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! 
 Jannes 





From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 8:24:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, 
and 
for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most 
recent 
research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to date 
and more sympathetic to FeLV cats.
When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before 
we 
got her but the clinic did a batch test where they took blood from all 4 
kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the 
mixture). 
I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's 
FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not 
find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and 
we 
retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets there 
were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be destroyed 
so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the 
disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor 
kitty. 

Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. 
We 
count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to 
keep 
Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to 
everyone on here and getting their advice first too.
Good luck with what ever you do.
Tanya

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:

 From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM
 Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating
 euthanization is a warning sign not to let
 him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up
 to date on the
 latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get
 to maintain
 Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to
 different vets and
 see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of
 some vets who
 treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start
 because they will have
 encountered it before. 
 
 Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to
 vaccinate the
 others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you.
 ;-)
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
 
 I want to thank everyone who responded about my post
 regarding Amber, my
 FeLV positive cat.
 I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the
 health of my other
 cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan
 to be cautious but
 do feel less stressed about it.
 I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is
 nothing like being
 able to get advice from folks who have experienced this
 situation.
 The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her
 test came back
 positive. 
 I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy
 cat. I want to give
 her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come
 back negative.  
 
 Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her
 from starving to death.
 She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting
 every chance I get!
 She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how
 she sits at the
 top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it
 is, I guess. At
 least for now...
 I would love to hear from more folks regarding this
 subject.
 Thanks you all and God Bless!!
 Jannes 
 
 
       
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[Gloria Lane]

That's a good point about vets - some vets are not into cats so don't know much 
about them aNd dont keep up.

Gloria


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On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an IFA 
 test was. He had to go read up about FeLV when I was there. He did tell me 
 he 
 was not a cat person. He was the new kid on the block with the four other 
 vets 
 who are in the same office. Unreal!!
 I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly 
 check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most 
 of 
 during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely concered 
 about 
 exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if it was up to him. 
 However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the 
 impression I 
 got.
 I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when 
 I 
 take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his 
 office during the day. I bet he is a cat person! 
  Jannes 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 8:24:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
 
 I agree with Diane, any vet who recommends euthanasia because a cat is FeLV, 
 and 
 for that reason only is not only ignorant but very uneducated in the most 
 recent 
 research out there. A lot of the younger vets tend to be a bit more up to 
 date 
 and more sympathetic to FeLV cats.
 When we found out that our Maggie was positive (we had her snap tested before 
 we 
 got her but the clinic did a batch test where they took blood from all 4 
 kittens, mixed it together and then pulled the 3 drops needed from the 
 mixture). 
 I was not aware of this or never would have allowed that to happen. Maggie's 
 FeLV was too diluted to show positive and her 3 siblings were neg. We did not 
 find out she was POS until a few months later when she became symptomatic and 
 we 
 retested again and also did an IFA. We decided to keep her which the vets 
 there 
 were very disapproving of. They believed that all FeLV cats should be 
 destroyed 
 so that we could eradicate the disease. While I agree with eradicating the 
 disease, my little Maggie isn't spreading her disease anywhere as my indoor 
 kitty. 
 
 Our other kitty is vaccinated against FeLV and we do not keep them separated. 
 We 
 count on the vaccine and the natural immunities cats develop as they age to 
 keep 
 Sasha safe, and so far so good. We made the decision to mix after talking to 
 everyone on here and getting their advice first too.
 Good luck with what ever you do.
 Tanya
 
 --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 
 From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:31 PM
 Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating
 euthanization is a warning sign not to let
 him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up
 to date on the
 latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get
 to maintain
 Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to
 different vets and
 see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of
 some vets who
 treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start
 because they will have
 encountered it before. 
 
 Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to
 vaccinate the
 others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you.
 ;-)
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice
 
 I want to thank everyone who responded about my post
 regarding Amber, my
 FeLV positive cat.
 I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the
 health of my other
 cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan
 to be cautious but
 do feel less stressed about it.
 I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is
 nothing like being
 able to get advice from folks who have experienced this
 situation.
 The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her
 test came back
 positive. 
 I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy
 cat. I want to give
 her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come
 back negative.  
 
 Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her
 from starving to death.
 She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting
 every chance I get!
 She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how
 she sits at the
 top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it
 is, I guess. At
 least for now...
 I would love to hear from more folks regarding

Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

[Diane Rosenfeldt]

Yikes. Perhaps this vet should recuse himself from *treating* cats? A vet is
actually supposed to know stuff even though he isn't a _ person. I'm
glad you have other choices. 

When we took our Patches (the reason I am on this list, though he died a few
years ago) in for testing (he had just showed up on our doorstep one summer
night, demanding our attention, and terribly, terribly matted) our vet told
us he was FeLV+, and in the next breath said, These are your options...
Euthanasia was one of them, of course, but we were happy that she wasn't
pushing it, and the other options included seeing how things went and fairly
conservative treatment, and since we love animals but are not made of money,
we eagerly did that. Things didn't go well, unfortunately, and he became
symptomatic -- lymph nodes swollen, stopped eating -- and we let him go. He
was such a sweet guy, it still makes me sad to think we didn't have time to
really get to know him, and he never got a chance to leave the room we were
caring for him in, which he really wanted to do. But we are happy that he
came to us because if he had stayed on the street he would have had a much
worse end.

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an
IFA test was. He had to go read up about FeLV when I was there. He
did tell me he was not a cat person. He was the new kid on the block with
the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!!
I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly
check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most
of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely
concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if
it was up to him. 
However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the
impression I got.
I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when
I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his
office during the day. I bet he is a cat person!
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[Jannes Taylor]

So sorry for the loss of Patches. I have the same thoughts about Amber as far 
as 
her dying from starvation. She was truly just a few days away from death I have 
no doubt. At least she has a chance and won't die out in the woods.
 Jannes 





From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 6:34:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

Yikes. Perhaps this vet should recuse himself from *treating* cats? A vet is
actually supposed to know stuff even though he isn't a _ person. I'm
glad you have other choices. 

When we took our Patches (the reason I am on this list, though he died a few
years ago) in for testing (he had just showed up on our doorstep one summer
night, demanding our attention, and terribly, terribly matted) our vet told
us he was FeLV+, and in the next breath said, These are your options...
Euthanasia was one of them, of course, but we were happy that she wasn't
pushing it, and the other options included seeing how things went and fairly
conservative treatment, and since we love animals but are not made of money,
we eagerly did that. Things didn't go well, unfortunately, and he became
symptomatic -- lymph nodes swollen, stopped eating -- and we let him go. He
was such a sweet guy, it still makes me sad to think we didn't have time to
really get to know him, and he never got a chance to leave the room we were
caring for him in, which he really wanted to do. But we are happy that he
came to us because if he had stayed on the street he would have had a much
worse end.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Actually it was a young (early twenties) vet who didn't even know what an
IFA test was. He had to go read up about FeLV when I was there. He
did tell me he was not a cat person. He was the new kid on the block with
the four other vets who are in the same office. Unreal!!
I took one of my other cats to the clinic last Saturday for her yearly
check-up/vaccines and thank God I saw the vet I like and have seen the most
of during the last 8 years. He was sympathetic, but he was extremely
concered about exposing my other cats. I do think he would put her down if
it was up to him. 
However, he did not come out and actually say that. It was just the
impression I got.
I do think I will take Amber to see another vet who is recommened to me when
I take her back for retesting. He has his own cat just roaming around in his
office during the day. I bet he is a cat person!
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[Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

[Jannes Taylor]

I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my FeLV 
positive cat.
I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other cats 
from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do feel 
less stressed about it.
I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being able 
to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation.
The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back 
positive. 
I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give 
her 
a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative.  

Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death. She 
is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She 
has 
improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of the 
staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for 
now...
I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject.
Thanks you all and God Bless!!
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[Natalie]

Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the
ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that
happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute
to exposing another cat to it  I have heard that from people again and
again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about
having to kill any cat that tests positive!
I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a
vet suggests as being gospel truth!  This cat may be healthy forever, or it
may not.  There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy
forever either, are there?  Do the best you can under the circumstances!
Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my
FeLV 
positive cat.
I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other
cats 
from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do
feel 
less stressed about it.
I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being
able 
to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation.
The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back
positive. 
I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give
her 
a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative.  

Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death.
She 
is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She
has 
improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of
the 
staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for 
now...
I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject.
Thanks you all and God Bless!!
Jannes 


  
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[Jannes Taylor]

Thank you, Natalie. I am so hoping her next test will be negative, but I will 
do 
the best I can regadless.
 Jannes 





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 10:39:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat is the
ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat that
happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even contribute
to exposing another cat to it  I have heard that from people again and
again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth about
having to kill any cat that tests positive!
I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe everything a
vet suggests as being gospel truth!  This cat may be healthy forever, or it
may not.  There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be healthy
forever either, are there?  Do the best you can under the circumstances!
Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my
FeLV 
positive cat.
I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other
cats 
from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but do
feel 
less stressed about it.
I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being
able 
to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation.
The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back
positive. 
I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give
her 
a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative.  

Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death.
She 
is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get! She
has 
improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the top of
the 
staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At least for 
now...
I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject.
Thanks you all and God Bless!!
Jannes 


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

[MaiMaiPG]

Most of you have heard Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, JP's story.  She came  
to me as a feral/throw-away.  I liked her and was gong to bring her to  
the farm.  I took her to be spayed and she tested positive.  My vets'  
put all the options on the table and I took death off to the relief of  
everyone.  With their care and the care of a couple of holistic vets  
in Louisville, she lived a very healthy and happy life for almost 3  
years.she had EVERYTHING  And gave me everything.

On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Natalie wrote:

Unfortunately, there are many vets with those views, even if the cat  
is the
ONLY cat in a homewhy would anyone kill a perfectly healthy cat  
that
happens to test positive for FeLV or FIV, and in NO way can even  
contribute
to exposing another cat to it  I have heard that from people  
again and
again, and sadly, they listen to those vets and continue this myth  
about

having to kill any cat that tests positive!
I am so glad that there are people like you who don't believe  
everything a
vet suggests as being gospel truth!  This cat may be healthy  
forever, or it
may not.  There are no guarantees that our healthy cats will be  
healthy
forever either, are there?  Do the best you can under the  
circumstances!

Natalie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  
Taylor

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding  
Amber, my

FeLV
positive cat.
I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my  
other

cats
from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious  
but do

feel
less stressed about it.
I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like  
being

able
to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation.
The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back
positive.
I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want  
to give

her
a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative.

Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to  
death.

She
is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I  
get! She

has
improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the  
top of

the
staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At  
least for

now...
I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject.
Thanks you all and God Bless!!
Jannes



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[Diane Rosenfeldt]

Wow, Jannes. The vet advocating euthanization is a warning sign not to let
him/her treat this particular cat. She is obviously not up to date on the
latest research and you need all the knowledge you can get to maintain
Amber's good health. You might consider calling around to different vets and
see what their feeling is about FeLV care. If you know of some vets who
treat shelter cats, they may be a good place to start because they will have
encountered it before. 

Best of luck with Amber. I personally hope you choose to vaccinate the
others and let her commingle, but that's me and not you. ;-)

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank You for your Advice

I want to thank everyone who responded about my post regarding Amber, my
FeLV positive cat.
I have been feeling a little guilty about risking the health of my other
cats from some chance encounter with Amber. I still plan to be cautious but
do feel less stressed about it.
I have done a lot of research on the web, but there is nothing like being
able to get advice from folks who have experienced this situation.
The vet leaned toward euthanization after her after her test came back
positive. 
I just could not euthanize a seemingly otherwise healthy cat. I want to give
her a chance! I hope and pray that her next test will come back negative.  

Whatever happens, I am glad I was there to save her from starving to death.
She is getting high quality food now and lots of petting every chance I get!
She has improved a lot in the last few weeks. It is sad how she sits at the
top of the staircase and can't come upstairs. It is what it is, I guess. At
least for now...
I would love to hear from more folks regarding this subject.
Thanks you all and God Bless!!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for sharing Murphy's journey-we learned so much from all of you here!

[Hotmail Junk]

Alice,
I too live in Sacramento  you and I lots in common. Gray Cat goes to Akaal Pet 
Hospital in Carmichael. We have been fighting this for 2+ years.  I call Gray 
my $30,000.00 cat, but I wouldn't trade one penny for the joy he  his two 
brothers have brought into our lives!

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 This has been a long journey and we have so much to thank all of you for. 
 First 
 of all, most of the people in our day to day lives haven't got a clue what we 
 are going through. We had Rosie to the vet today for her check up-she's been 
 sneezing a bit the last few days. She got her CBC drawn (results tomorrow) 
 and 
 she checked out perfect, but a little PennG and cypro to see if we can nip 
 the 
 sneezing-so far tonight she has not sneezed. I'll add the Lysine for good 
 measure. Murphy did sneeze right in her face a few times recently. She will 
 barely touch wet food the last week since Murphy hasn't been eating along 
 side 
 of her. Last night about 1 am she was wailing-carrying her toy around the 
 house. 
 Glenn got up and spent some time with her in the living room so I could get 
 to 
 sleep, I had to work today. Our vet was so kind-Dr Krysta at the Sacramento 
 Cat 
 Hospital and she said they have learned so much with Murphy and treating FeLV 
 with open eyes and minds. Thanks to this board, we discovered the Imulan 
 LTCI-they ordered it for us over a year ago. I believe it did give us more 
 time 
 with Murphy. Thanks to Dawn and the suggestion to try Rutin for the fluid in 
 his 
 lungs-the vet was amazed at how great his lungs sounded after a short time 
 with 
 the Rutin-she said they used it for another condition but had never 
 considered 
 using it for FeLV cats and the fluid in their chests with the Lymphoma. When 
 Rosie came home from the vet today, she searched the entire house for 
 Murphy-for 
 the first time in her life, she is solo. I'm not sure what to do, but time 
 will 
 help. I am so grateful for all of your support the last year or so. Our lives 
 are much enriched with learning how precious every day is. Gratefully, Alice, 
 Glenn and Rosie
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[Bonnie Hogue]

Our lives are much enriched with learning how precious every day is.

Alice, you and Glenn are special and wonderful people!  Wish there were more 
like you in the world.


Wishing you every joy, peace and happiness...
~Bonnie


- Original Message - 
From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:14 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you for sharing Murphy's journey-we learned somuch 
from all of you here!



This has been a long journey and we have so much to thank all of you for. 
First
of all, most of the people in our day to day lives haven't got a clue what 
we
are going through. We had Rosie to the vet today for her check up-she's 
been
sneezing a bit the last few days. She got her CBC drawn (results tomorrow) 
and
she checked out perfect, but a little PennG and cypro to see if we can nip 
the

sneezing-so far tonight she has not sneezed. I'll add the Lysine for good
measure. Murphy did sneeze right in her face a few times recently. She 
will
barely touch wet food the last week since Murphy hasn't been eating along 
side
of her. Last night about 1 am she was wailing-carrying her toy around the 
house.
Glenn got up and spent some time with her in the living room so I could 
get to
sleep, I had to work today. Our vet was so kind-Dr Krysta at the 
Sacramento Cat
Hospital and she said they have learned so much with Murphy and treating 
FeLV

with open eyes and minds. Thanks to this board, we discovered the Imulan
LTCI-they ordered it for us over a year ago. I believe it did give us more 
time
with Murphy. Thanks to Dawn and the suggestion to try Rutin for the fluid 
in his
lungs-the vet was amazed at how great his lungs sounded after a short time 
with
the Rutin-she said they used it for another condition but had never 
considered
using it for FeLV cats and the fluid in their chests with the Lymphoma. 
When
Rosie came home from the vet today, she searched the entire house for 
Murphy-for
the first time in her life, she is solo. I'm not sure what to do, but time 
will
help. I am so grateful for all of your support the last year or so. Our 
lives
are much enriched with learning how precious every day is. Gratefully, 
Alice,

Glenn and Rosie
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[Alice Flowers]

This has been a long journey and we have so much to thank all of you for. First 
of all, most of the people in our day to day lives haven't got a clue what we 
are going through. We had Rosie to the vet today for her check up-she's been 
sneezing a bit the last few days. She got her CBC drawn (results tomorrow) and 
she checked out perfect, but a little PennG and cypro to see if we can nip the 
sneezing-so far tonight she has not sneezed. I'll add the Lysine for good 
measure. Murphy did sneeze right in her face a few times recently. She will 
barely touch wet food the last week since Murphy hasn't been eating along side 
of her. Last night about 1 am she was wailing-carrying her toy around the 
house. 
Glenn got up and spent some time with her in the living room so I could get to 
sleep, I had to work today. Our vet was so kind-Dr Krysta at the Sacramento Cat 
Hospital and she said they have learned so much with Murphy and treating FeLV 
with open eyes and minds. Thanks to this board, we discovered the Imulan 
LTCI-they ordered it for us over a year ago. I believe it did give us more time 
with Murphy. Thanks to Dawn and the suggestion to try Rutin for the fluid in 
his 
lungs-the vet was amazed at how great his lungs sounded after a short time with 
the Rutin-she said they used it for another condition but had never considered 
using it for FeLV cats and the fluid in their chests with the Lymphoma. When 
Rosie came home from the vet today, she searched the entire house for 
Murphy-for 
the first time in her life, she is solo. I'm not sure what to do, but time will 
help. I am so grateful for all of your support the last year or so. Our lives 
are much enriched with learning how precious every day is. Gratefully, Alice, 
Glenn and Rosie
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[Belinda Sauro]

  Hi Gloria,
 It is suppose to have a kind of hypnotic effect on them to keep them 
clam, I think it simulates the way a mom kitty holds her kitten, can't 
say I noticed that with Fred but he figured since he couldn't reach me 
to bite me anymore it wasn't worth it to try so he stopped after a week, 
maybe not even that long and he is very mellow ever since getting his 
fluids.  I know he feels better and I think he had figured that out too.


Here is the story on it:

http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick

PS.  the first picture is the kitty without the clothes pins.

--

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[Lorrie]

Dear Friends, I want to thank all of you for your help and advice
about the FelV cat in my cageless FelV shelter who is slowly wasting
away.  I really appreciate your caring responses.  I did not want to
take Mimi to the vet to be PTS, as it is so stressful for her, and
you helped me make my decision to just love and comfort her where she
is now, in her favorite sleeping place.

Frank, I too am haunted by the memory of taking a dying cat to the
vet and watching him use what little strength he had left to fight
going there.  It was awful, and unless a cat is in extreme pain I
will never do this again.

Maybe I shouldn't comment on this here, but I also have a cat who
is 16 years old and has the beginnings of CRF, so I joined the CRF
group, but I only stayed there about a week.  It tore my guts out to
read about the horrendous things so many of the members were putting
their very old, (16 to 19 years old) termininally ill cats through
They described how the cats no longer came to them for love, as they
knew they'd be poked and prodded!   It seemed everyone in the group
was determined to keep their cats alive no matter what they put them
through. I couldn't stand reading about it, so I dropped out. The
members of this FelV group seem to have a more realistic attitude.
We will all die someday, and keeping people or animals alive on
tubes and needles is not the way I want to leave this earth!

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[Sharyl]

Lorrie,
Just a comment about CRF kitties.  My Pequita was dx with CRF over 3 yrs ago.  
She'll be 17 this Oct.  She has been on meds and daily sub q fluids for most of 
those 3 yrs.  I assist feed her several times per day.  She will only eat from 
a baby spoon.  I do the meds, feedings and fluids on her terms and she is doing 
fine.

Often when a kitty crashed they are are very resistant to treatment.  It is all 
new and strange for them.  Once the person develops a treatment schedule things 
usually go a lot better.  Like people, cats like to know what is going to 
happen and when it is going to happen.  

I just don't want people here to think that treating CRF or any chronic disease 
should not be attempted.  Each kitty is unique and will respond to treatment 
plans differently.  Often members of the CRF group are in a panic mode and are 
still dealing with a kitty in crisis.  You don't know how yours will respond 
until you try.   

Whatever problem our beloved companions have we need to remember to love them 
and treasure each day we have together.
Sharyl

--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:

 From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 7:46 AM
 Dear Friends, I want to thank all of
 you for your help and advice
 about the FelV cat in my cageless FelV shelter who is
 slowly wasting
 away.  I really appreciate your caring
 responses.  I did not want to
 take Mimi to the vet to be PTS, as it is so stressful for
 her, and
 you helped me make my decision to just love and comfort her
 where she
 is now, in her favorite sleeping place.
 
 Frank, I too am haunted by the memory of taking a dying cat
 to the
 vet and watching him use what little strength he had left
 to fight
 going there.  It was awful, and unless a cat is in
 extreme pain I
 will never do this again.
 
 Maybe I shouldn't comment on this here, but I also have a
 cat who
 is 16 years old and has the beginnings of CRF, so I joined
 the CRF
 group, but I only stayed there about a week.  It tore
 my guts out to
 read about the horrendous things so many of the members
 were putting
 their very old, (16 to 19 years old) termininally ill cats
 through
 They described how the cats no longer came to them for
 love, as they
 knew they'd be poked and prodded!   It
 seemed everyone in the group
 was determined to keep their cats alive no matter what they
 put them
 through. I couldn't stand reading about it, so I dropped
 out. The
 members of this FelV group seem to have a more realistic
 attitude.
 We will all die someday, and keeping people or animals
 alive on
 tubes and needles is not the way I want to leave this
 earth!
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

[MaryChristine]

i think it's really natural for us to want to try EVERYTHING to help our
beloved ones, even when, sometimes, it's in our best interests and not
really theirs. that's what i believe that i have learned from my cats in
their final days. i know that, early on, i kept some of mine around
longer than i would do now, but not from meanness, rather from lack of
awareness. i had to learn... to separate out their needs from mine, to ask
them what they needed, to truly listen to what they were telling me.

people learn at different rates; i try very hard (not always successfully,
as those reading another FeLV list can attest) not to judge others'
progress.

i actually have a kitty in terminal crf right now; she bit the hell out of
me the last two times i tried to hydrate her. she's my remaining heartcat,
and her refusing treatment is killing me--but how can i not honor her
choices, after all she's given me through the years? she's the official
international spokescat for the Calico Liberation Coalition, CaLiCo, a
4-paw-declawed, harlequin girl that refuses to purr tho will, very
occasionally, practice Rhythmic Growling--to force her to do anything would
be an assault on her very cathood. she's someplace close to 16 years
old, and has blessed my life with bite wounds and attiTUDE for over ten
years now--i adore her, and know completely that in her furry little
multicolored heart, she  feels the same way toward me. i will do what is
best for her when her job on this earth is complete; no matter how much it
pains me--i know that she will tell me if she needs help, tho actually i'm
just hoping she'll allow me to be with her when the time comes, and not just
leave me an email.

the wisest advice i've ever gotten, though, is that it's best to send them
across the bridge one day too soon, than five minutes too late. feeling
guilty about their, not being ready, when they weren't yet suffering, is
pointless, but nothing compared to the knowledge that one has waited too
long.

sometimes, tho, we need to go through the latter to understand. we need to
be gentle with one another as we learn these horrible lessons. and hope that
what we learn so painfully can help someone else learn them with less
difficulty.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

[Amy Dalgliesh]

MaryChristine,
What is it about those sassy, fiesty, independant calico girls that makes us 
love them so?  We must be suckers for punishment, cause they sure do love to 
dole it out.  One of mine is ancient, weighs less than 6 lbs, toothless and I 
still can't pill her.  She's the smallest cat of the bunch, but she can move a 
15 lb male from his bowl of canned food just by staring at him.  I'm crazy 
about her and I celebrate her attitude.

--- On Wed, 8/12/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:


From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:12 AM


i think it's really natural for us to want to try EVERYTHING to help our
beloved ones, even when, sometimes, it's in our best interests and not
really theirs. that's what i believe that i have learned from my cats in
their final days. i know that, early on, i kept some of mine around
longer than i would do now, but not from meanness, rather from lack of
awareness. i had to learn... to separate out their needs from mine, to ask
them what they needed, to truly listen to what they were telling me.

people learn at different rates; i try very hard (not always successfully,
as those reading another FeLV list can attest) not to judge others'
progress.

i actually have a kitty in terminal crf right now; she bit the hell out of
me the last two times i tried to hydrate her. she's my remaining heartcat,
and her refusing treatment is killing me--but how can i not honor her
choices, after all she's given me through the years? she's the official
international spokescat for the Calico Liberation Coalition, CaLiCo, a
4-paw-declawed, harlequin girl that refuses to purr tho will, very
occasionally, practice Rhythmic Growling--to force her to do anything would
be an assault on her very cathood. she's someplace close to 16 years
old, and has blessed my life with bite wounds and attiTUDE for over ten
years now--i adore her, and know completely that in her furry little
multicolored heart, she  feels the same way toward me. i will do what is
best for her when her job on this earth is complete; no matter how much it
pains me--i know that she will tell me if she needs help, tho actually i'm
just hoping she'll allow me to be with her when the time comes, and not just
leave me an email.

the wisest advice i've ever gotten, though, is that it's best to send them
across the bridge one day too soon, than five minutes too late. feeling
guilty about their, not being ready, when they weren't yet suffering, is
pointless, but nothing compared to the knowledge that one has waited too
long.

sometimes, tho, we need to go through the latter to understand. we need to
be gentle with one another as we learn these horrible lessons. and hope that
what we learn so painfully can help someone else learn them with less
difficulty.



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Maybe That'll Make The Difference

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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

[MaryChristine]

it's the red gene, i'm told

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Amy Dalgliesh ajdalgli...@yahoo.comwrote:

 MaryChristine,
 What is it about those sassy, fiesty, independant calico girls that makes
 us love them so?  We must be suckers for punishment, cause they sure do love
 to dole it out.  One of mine is ancient, weighs less than 6 lbs, toothless
 and I still can't pill her.  She's the smallest cat of the bunch, but she
 can move a 15 lb male from his bowl of canned food just by staring at him.
 I'm crazy about her and I celebrate her attitude.

 --- On Wed, 8/12/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:12 AM


 i think it's really natural for us to want to try EVERYTHING to help our
 beloved ones, even when, sometimes, it's in our best interests and not
 really theirs. that's what i believe that i have learned from my cats in
 their final days. i know that, early on, i kept some of mine around
 longer than i would do now, but not from meanness, rather from lack of
 awareness. i had to learn... to separate out their needs from mine, to ask
 them what they needed, to truly listen to what they were telling me.

 people learn at different rates; i try very hard (not always successfully,
 as those reading another FeLV list can attest) not to judge others'
 progress.

 i actually have a kitty in terminal crf right now; she bit the hell out of
 me the last two times i tried to hydrate her. she's my remaining heartcat,
 and her refusing treatment is killing me--but how can i not honor her
 choices, after all she's given me through the years? she's the official
 international spokescat for the Calico Liberation Coalition, CaLiCo, a
 4-paw-declawed, harlequin girl that refuses to purr tho will, very
 occasionally, practice Rhythmic Growling--to force her to do anything would
 be an assault on her very cathood. she's someplace close to 16 years
 old, and has blessed my life with bite wounds and attiTUDE for over ten
 years now--i adore her, and know completely that in her furry little
 multicolored heart, she  feels the same way toward me. i will do what is
 best for her when her job on this earth is complete; no matter how much it
 pains me--i know that she will tell me if she needs help, tho actually i'm
 just hoping she'll allow me to be with her when the time comes, and not
 just
 leave me an email.

 the wisest advice i've ever gotten, though, is that it's best to send them
 across the bridge one day too soon, than five minutes too late. feeling
 guilty about their, not being ready, when they weren't yet suffering, is
 pointless, but nothing compared to the knowledge that one has waited too
 long.

 sometimes, tho, we need to go through the latter to understand. we need to
 be gentle with one another as we learn these horrible lessons. and hope
 that
 what we learn so painfully can help someone else learn them with less
 difficulty.



 --
 Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
 Maybe That'll Make The Difference

 MaryChristine
 Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org
 )
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

[Belinda Sauro]

My thoughts on this:

It tore my guts out to read about the horrendous things so many of the members 
were putting their very old, (16 to 19 years old) termininally ill cats 
through
I just want to give another perspective, Fred is 18 or so now, he was 15 
when he was diagnosed very early CRF and hyper thyroid, I'm on the CRF 
list you spoke of and I can't thank all of them for all the support I 
have gotten to keep Fred going.  When I first started doing the fluids 
he needs daily he would bite me, he didn't like it, but after a week of 
using clothes pins on him he accepted it and has been getting them for 
over 2 years with no problems.  Did it hurt him to put clothes pins down 
his neck for a week, no, I tried it on myself first, it felt like 
pressure but there was no pain, and he still tried to bite me but 
realised he couldn't reach me anymore and gave up.


He also gets pills 4 or 5 times a day and of course he doesn't love it 
but my way of thinking is if you add it all up for the 30 minutes or so 
a day that it totals for the time I have to give him pills and fluids, 
he has lived a good quality of life for 3 more years ... I guarantee you 
he would have died years ago without my intervention.


When anyone animal, person doesn't feel good they don't want to be 
messed with, I know that from my own experience, when I am sick, I don't 
want to eat or drink or want anyone to bother me.  That doesn't mean I 
want to die.  Once you get over the hump with help from your family and 
meds and feel better things get back to somewhat normal, as normal as 
they can be when you have a terminal condition.  Yes I know at some 
point Fred will eventually not do as well and no matter what I do will 
keep getting worse because I do know CRF doesn't get cured BUT I will do 
everything I can to keep Fred here with me feeling as well as can be 
expected with his age and condition.  Am I selfish, perhaps, but as you 
said, this is what I would want for myself, I am not leaving easily when 
it is my time and everyone that knows me knows that.


Fred used to sleep on my pillow every night but I have his bed set up 
with everything but the litter box right there for him, so he prefers to 
stay there, he still comes in on occasion and stays a while, then goes 
back to his room.  Do I think he doesn't like me anymore, no, he comes 
to me many times throughout the day and sits on my chest a few minutes 
so I can love him but he doesn't like me to give him his pills and if he 
weren't so lazy and a little weak he probably would run and hide, but it 
takes all of 10 seconds and it is over.  It took a good 8 months or so 
to get him stable when we first found out he was CRF, he stopped eating 
and got a feeding tube.  He gained back all the weight he lost and and 
pulled the tube out himself.  Up until recently was keeping his weight 
pretty stable.  He is losing weight now, he has virtually no muscle in 
either back leg and I can see he is getting to the point where things 
are going to start deteriorating as they do with this condition.  I 
don't know how much longer we have but as long as he enjoys going out to 
lay in the sun, enjoys spending time with me I will do everything in my 
power to keep him going.


Do I think anything I have done to keep Fred with me is horrendous, no, 
some people may, but I don't.  I have gotten 3 more years of some very 
good memories with my Fred and I think for the most part Fred has 
enjoyed being here those 3 extra years.  Everyone has their own ideas 
about quality of life, I personally think some people give up too early 
because of my beliefs and sometimes it is very hard for me to not say 
something but then I remember it is their pet and as long as whatever 
they are doing is out of love for that pet then I really can't say 
anything.  What one person thinks is horrendous is loving and 
compassionate care to another.  We can only do what we think is best for 
those in our care according to what our beliefs are ...


When it is obvious to me that nothing I do will make any difference 
anymore then I will let Fred go.  At some point the body, animal or 
human just can't go on anymore and when that is evident then I know I 
have done all I can I won't be happy about it but ...



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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

[Gloria B. Lane]

I have to ask, Belinda - what are the clothes pins for?  Have had CRF  
cats, never tried that.


Gloria



On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:


   My thoughts on this:
It tore my guts out to read about the horrendous things so many of  
the members were putting their very old, (16 to 19 years old)  
termininally ill cats through
I just want to give another perspective, Fred is 18 or so now, he  
was 15 when he was diagnosed very early CRF and hyper thyroid, I'm  
on the CRF list you spoke of and I can't thank all of them for all  
the support I have gotten to keep Fred going.  When I first started  
doing the fluids he needs daily he would bite me, he didn't like it,  
but after a week of using clothes pins on him he accepted it and has  
been getting them for over 2 years with no problems.  Did it hurt  
him to put clothes pins down his neck for a week, no, I tried it on  
myself first, it felt like pressure but there was no pain, and he  
still tried to bite me but realised he couldn't reach me anymore and  
gave up.


He also gets pills 4 or 5 times a day and of course he doesn't love  
it but my way of thinking is if you add it all up for the 30 minutes  
or so a day that it totals for the time I have to give him pills and  
fluids, he has lived a good quality of life for 3 more years ... I  
guarantee you he would have died years ago without my intervention.


When anyone animal, person doesn't feel good they don't want to be  
messed with, I know that from my own experience, when I am sick, I  
don't want to eat or drink or want anyone to bother me.  That  
doesn't mean I want to die.  Once you get over the hump with help  
from your family and meds and feel better things get back to  
somewhat normal, as normal as they can be when you have a terminal  
condition.  Yes I know at some point Fred will eventually not do as  
well and no matter what I do will keep getting worse because I do  
know CRF doesn't get cured BUT I will do everything I can to keep  
Fred here with me feeling as well as can be expected with his age  
and condition.  Am I selfish, perhaps, but as you said, this is what  
I would want for myself, I am not leaving easily when it is my time  
and everyone that knows me knows that.


Fred used to sleep on my pillow every night but I have his bed set  
up with everything but the litter box right there for him, so he  
prefers to stay there, he still comes in on occasion and stays a  
while, then goes back to his room.  Do I think he doesn't like me  
anymore, no, he comes to me many times throughout the day and sits  
on my chest a few minutes so I can love him but he doesn't like me  
to give him his pills and if he weren't so lazy and a little weak he  
probably would run and hide, but it takes all of 10 seconds and it  
is over.  It took a good 8 months or so to get him stable when we  
first found out he was CRF, he stopped eating and got a feeding  
tube.  He gained back all the weight he lost and and pulled the tube  
out himself.  Up until recently was keeping his weight pretty  
stable.  He is losing weight now, he has virtually no muscle in  
either back leg and I can see he is getting to the point where  
things are going to start deteriorating as they do with this  
condition.  I don't know how much longer we have but as long as he  
enjoys going out to lay in the sun, enjoys spending time with me I  
will do everything in my power to keep him going.


Do I think anything I have done to keep Fred with me is horrendous,  
no, some people may, but I don't.  I have gotten 3 more years of  
some very good memories with my Fred and I think for the most part  
Fred has enjoyed being here those 3 extra years.  Everyone has their  
own ideas about quality of life, I personally think some people give  
up too early because of my beliefs and sometimes it is very hard for  
me to not say something but then I remember it is their pet and as  
long as whatever they are doing is out of love for that pet then I  
really can't say anything.  What one person thinks is horrendous is  
loving and compassionate care to another.  We can only do what we  
think is best for those in our care according to what our beliefs  
are ...


When it is obvious to me that nothing I do will make any difference  
anymore then I will let Fred go.  At some point the body, animal or  
human just can't go on anymore and when that is evident then I know  
I have done all I can I won't be happy about it but ...



Belinda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family

[dlgegg]

my babies are all buried in my flower gardens.  have them scattered about in 
many gardens as i have had to bury many babies in the last 28 years, 2 dogs  
and 7 cats.  they all loved to stroll throgh the flowers, so i decided to bury 
them there.  dorlis
 Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: 
 A garden is a lovely idea. With all the love and care you gave to Bella, I
 bet her garden turns out great.
 
 Diane R. 
 
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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Orth, Sarai
 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:01 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family
 
 Thank you all for your loving posts. I didn't know how much I needed the
 support until I got it! It seems that so many people have not had a special
 relationship with a pet where they can relate to the hole that their passing
 leaves and that has been frustrating to me. This week is a better week as we
 are starting to be able to think lovingly about her and laugh about funny
 things she did! We miss her still and plan to make a beautiful garden for
 her over her gravesite. I am looking forward to planning out something
 lovely to honor her. I will take your words of wisdom and just keep loving
 the other baby like there is no tomorrow! He is spoiled rotten these
 days...he even sleeps in our bed now (which my husband never would have
 allowed before J) We hope that he stays symptom free for many years as we
 hear CAN happen. Thank you again for your kind words and if anyone else has
 any advice on preventative measures- always feel free to post! 
 
  
 
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[Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family

[Orth, Sarai]

Thank you all for your loving posts. I didn't know how much I needed the
support until I got it! It seems that so many people have not had a
special relationship with a pet where they can relate to the hole that
their passing leaves and that has been frustrating to me. This week is a
better week as we are starting to be able to think lovingly about her
and laugh about funny things she did! We miss her still and plan to make
a beautiful garden for her over her gravesite. I am looking forward to
planning out something lovely to honor her. I will take your words of
wisdom and just keep loving the other baby like there is no tomorrow! He
is spoiled rotten these days...he even sleeps in our bed now (which my
husband never would have allowed before J) We hope that he stays symptom
free for many years as we hear CAN happen. Thank you again for your kind
words and if anyone else has any advice on preventative measures- always
feel free to post! 

 

Sarai Orth

Career Path Services

Co-Located @ Valley DSHS

Monday-Thursday 7-5:30

Voice (509) 227-2892

Fax (509) 227-2894

 

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family

[Cougar Clan]

Peace to you.  A suggestion since you are learning to heal:  Start a  
chronicle of your little one(s).  Write in it daily.  I've done that  
with Copper and Thomas and frequently look back at the notes.  Every  
time I do, I laugh and love these little guys even more.  I sent  
emails to some friends about Dixie, who left this world all too some  
because of this disease, and they are comforting.  The chronicles  
evolved from her emails.

On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Orth, Sarai wrote:

Thank you all for your loving posts. I didn't know how much I needed  
the

support until I got it! It seems that so many people have not had a
special relationship with a pet where they can relate to the hole that
their passing leaves and that has been frustrating to me. This week  
is a

better week as we are starting to be able to think lovingly about her
and laugh about funny things she did! We miss her still and plan to  
make

a beautiful garden for her over her gravesite. I am looking forward to
planning out something lovely to honor her. I will take your words of
wisdom and just keep loving the other baby like there is no  
tomorrow! He

is spoiled rotten these days...he even sleeps in our bed now (which my
husband never would have allowed before J) We hope that he stays  
symptom
free for many years as we hear CAN happen. Thank you again for your  
kind
words and if anyone else has any advice on preventative measures-  
always

feel free to post!



Sarai Orth

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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family

[Diane Rosenfeldt]

A garden is a lovely idea. With all the love and care you gave to Bella, I
bet her garden turns out great.

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Orth, Sarai
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you from Bella's Family

Thank you all for your loving posts. I didn't know how much I needed the
support until I got it! It seems that so many people have not had a special
relationship with a pet where they can relate to the hole that their passing
leaves and that has been frustrating to me. This week is a better week as we
are starting to be able to think lovingly about her and laugh about funny
things she did! We miss her still and plan to make a beautiful garden for
her over her gravesite. I am looking forward to planning out something
lovely to honor her. I will take your words of wisdom and just keep loving
the other baby like there is no tomorrow! He is spoiled rotten these
days...he even sleeps in our bed now (which my husband never would have
allowed before J) We hope that he stays symptom free for many years as we
hear CAN happen. Thank you again for your kind words and if anyone else has
any advice on preventative measures- always feel free to post! 

 

Sarai Orth

Career Path Services

Co-Located @ Valley DSHS

Monday-Thursday 7-5:30

Voice (509) 227-2892

Fax (509) 227-2894

 

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you everyone!

[Amber Gilewski]

I just wanted to thank everyone who posted in response to my LTIC/Imulan  
Losing Kitties message. Your support and well wishes were wonderful and 
encouraging! 

Others who don't know much about FeLV can have some interesting responses 
sometimes. I had one of my neighbors come over to feed our cat Neo for a couple 
of days while we were away once. She ended up coming down with some horrible 
rash around the same time all over her body. She instantly thought it was due 
to FeLV. Even her vet told her it wouldn't have caused those symptoms in 
people! I don't know if she ever found out the true cause of her skin 
condition, but again the first thought was to blame my cat!

But I digress. Hopefully I'll find a cat sitter next time I go away that isn't 
fearful of the illness. 

We started Neo on the LTIC shots this past week. He's in good health now so 
hopefully it will prolong his life. Does anyone have experience with LTIC with 
their kitties?

Thanks again and I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving. :)
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[Christy Buchin]

Amber,
We have been using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty.  However, since his diagnosis 
on September 6 of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone marrow.  At 
this point we are not sure if anything will help him.  We have not run into 
another situation such as ours.  We took in a stray pregnant female in 2007, 
which tested negative for the FelV.  She had 3 male kittens, which we all kept. 
 Our Gray Kitty is the only one that has been diagnosed with the FelV.  The 
other two test negative.  Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type 
blood.  We are so puzzled, shocked, and very saddened that he has come down 
with this disease.  We know our time with him is so very precious.   From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 
16:00:13 + Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you everyone!   I just wanted 
to thank everyone who posted in response to my LTIC/Imulan  Losing Kitties 
message. Your support and well wishes were wonderful and encouraging!   
Others who don't know much about FeLV can have some interesting responses 
sometimes. I had one of my neighbors come over to feed our cat Neo for a couple 
of days while we were away once. She ended up coming down with some horrible 
rash around the same time all over her body. She instantly thought it was due 
to FeLV. Even her vet told her it wouldn't have caused those symptoms in 
people! I don't know if she ever found out the true cause of her skin 
condition, but again the first thought was to blame my cat!  But I digress. 
Hopefully I'll find a cat sitter next time I go away that isn't fearful of the 
illness.   We started Neo on the LTIC shots this past week. He's in good 
health now so hopefully it will prolong his life. Does anyone have experience 
with LTIC with their kitties?  Thanks again and I hope everyone had a nice 
Thanksgiving. :) Amber
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[Sue Koren]

I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork.  He has gone from 8 
when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18.  It is 
because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the 
Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone 
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loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years!  
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[Debbie Harrison]

What wonderful news, Sue!!  I have learned so much from everyone here 
already!!! Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:41:03 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this 
list.  I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone 
from 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. 
It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the 
Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone 
that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. He will be loved 
and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years! Thank 
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[wendy]

Sue,
I am SO happy to hear this!  That is absolutely wonderful!
:):):):)
Wendy

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- Original Message 
From: Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list.

I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork.  He has gone from 8 
when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18.  It is 
because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the 
Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone 
that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life.  He will be 
loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years!  
Thank you everyone!

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[Lynne]

Wonderful news Sue.  I so hope he continues to improve and fight this along 
with you.  How is he feeling by the way?

Lynne
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I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork.  He has gone from 
8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. 
It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the 
Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the 
prednesone that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. 
He will be loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping 
it is years!  Thank you everyone!

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[Sue Koren]

His energy level continues to improve.  If I were to look at him now not 
knowing what he had been through I would not know that he was sick. He still 
doesn't play like the kitten he still is (a little over a year old).  I just 
love to watch him eat.  He is back to following me around.
Did you ever decide what to do about BooBoo's son?  Or are you just trying to 
get through all you are going through with Lennie right now?

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Wonderful news Sue.  I so hope he continues to improve and fight this along 
with you.  How is he feeling by the way?

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[MaryChristine]

that is such great news, sue--doxy is one of those scary drugs, to me,
because it is SO strong, but damn, when it's used in the correct way for the
correct conditions, it WORKS. this is a perfect example of the relationship
we deserve to have with our vets--a PARTNERSHIP--they can't know everything,
and because we have the ultimate impetus to learn the details of specific
conditions affecting OUR companions, we often have access to alternative
information that they just haven't had the reason to come across. being open
to what other vets HAVE learned, or what we have found in our wanderings is
what matters--as with human medicine, WE are the consumers, and if our vets
won't work with us, we need to find new vets.

i'm SO glad that buzzy's numbers are climbing.

MC

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork.  He has gone from
 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18.  It
 is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the
 Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone
 that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life.  He will be
 loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years!
  Thank you everyone!

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[Sally Davis]

Yipee!!!

I am so happy for the good news. Junior started out anemic as well it was
actually the first symptom that something was wrong. He was put on Baytril
rather than doxy but for the same reason. His anemia got better. It was not
as bad as Buzzy's.

Great News.

Sally Davis
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