to Marylyn

[Jane Lyons]

Is the name of the product you use for stomatitis called Brush Away?
Can you describe it and tell me where you get it?

I've not been able to clear up two areas on MeMe's upper gum.
I've been giving her First Born and several other immune supplements,  
but

these two areas are difficult.

Thanks
Jane

Re: to Marylyn

[Marylyn]

I get it from a holistic vet, Susan Maier, in Simpsonville, KY.  However you 
can order directly from PetzLife if you can't find it.  Here is the link: 
http://www.petzlife.com/category/


You can work your way back and forth thru it to get additional information. 
They are calling it Oral Care Gel now--probably to avoid confusion with the 
Mr. Clean and other brush away ads.


Good luck.




If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: to Marylyn



Is the name of the product you use for stomatitis called Brush Away?
Can you describe it and tell me where you get it?

I've not been able to clear up two areas on MeMe's upper gum.
I've been giving her First Born and several other immune supplements,  but
these two areas are difficult.

Thanks
Jane

Re: Pictures and a question ~ marylyn

[Marylyn]

No they aren't dumb.  Forgive the spelling but AIHA is Autoimmune Hemophilic 
Anemia.  Mai Mai had it and alternative vet meds helped a lot including 
acupuncture, homeopathy etc.  The steroids that helped save/extend her life 
were making her miserable.  This type medicine helped decrease the amount we 
gave her and improved the quality of her life.  Additionally, to help build up 
her blood (country terms) I gave her a lot of liver.  I cooked a lot at a time, 
ground it and froze it in muffin pans, pop them out,  bag them and have them 
ready.  As I've mentioned before, I am vegetarian and fixing this stuff is 
difficult so I make pretty large quantities at a time.  It really seemed to 
help.  Differences:  This was about 10 years ago and Mai Mai was a dog, the 
most wonderful Portland Purebreed in the world.  I don't know if there is 
anything here anyone can use but I am putting it on the table. 






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Pictures and a question ~ marylyn



  Hope these aren't dumb questions..what is a liver pop and what is AIHA, 
please?
  thanks,
  Laurie (dealing with high fever, anemia and low WBC).
   
On 7/1/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Not necessarily on topicMai Mai had AIHA and it improved with 
the addition of liver (yuck) to her food + alternative vet treatments.  I have 
to wonder if anemic cats would benefit from liver pops 

Marylyn, question

[Jane Lyons]

Marylyn where do you buy Just Born and Brush Away?

thanks very much
Jane

Re: Marylyn, question

[Marylyn]

I get the Just Born at a feed store here but it is available at various pet 
stores and the liquid (too expensive for long term use) is available at 
Kroger's.


I get the Brush Away from a holistic vet I know but it is available on line 
as is the Just Born.  The website is: http://www.petzlife.com/


Just Born with Colostrum is available on line too.  Here is a couple of 
sites:


http://www.dresslersdog.com/petn01.html

http://www.petmountain.com/search/0/0/1/1/?s=Just+born

http://www.amazon.com/Just-Born-Colostrum-Kittens-powder/dp/B00063KN8A

Amazon.com is the only place I have had experience.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Marylyn, question



Marylyn where do you buy Just Born and Brush Away?

thanks very much
Jane

Re: Marylyn, question

[Susan Dubose]

Just Born available online also @  www.drsfosterandsmith.com
www.revivalanimal.com


I have used both, pretty fast on the shipping.

Both stay *about* the same as far as price.



Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Marylyn, question


I get the Just Born at a feed store here but it is available at various pet
stores and the liquid (too expensive for long term use) is available at
Kroger's.

I get the Brush Away from a holistic vet I know but it is available on line
as is the Just Born.  The website is: http://www.petzlife.com/

Just Born with Colostrum is available on line too.  Here is a couple of
sites:

http://www.dresslersdog.com/petn01.html

http://www.petmountain.com/search/0/0/1/1/?s=Just+born

http://www.amazon.com/Just-Born-Colostrum-Kittens-powder/dp/B00063KN8A

Amazon.com is the only place I have had experience.







 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
  St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Marylyn, question


 Marylyn where do you buy Just Born and Brush Away?

 thanks very much
 Jane

Re: Marylyn, question

[Marylyn]

Make sure you are getting the Just Born with Colostrum.  The colostrum is a 
major selling point.


Thanks for the sources.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: Marylyn, question



Just Born available online also @  www.drsfosterandsmith.com
www.revivalanimal.com


I have used both, pretty fast on the shipping.

Both stay *about* the same as far as price.



Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
 As Cleopatra lay in state,
  Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
  Purring welcomes of soft applause,
  Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Marylyn, question


I get the Just Born at a feed store here but it is available at various 
pet

stores and the liquid (too expensive for long term use) is available at
Kroger's.

I get the Brush Away from a holistic vet I know but it is available on 
line

as is the Just Born.  The website is: http://www.petzlife.com/

Just Born with Colostrum is available on line too.  Here is a couple of
sites:

http://www.dresslersdog.com/petn01.html

http://www.petmountain.com/search/0/0/1/1/?s=Just+born

http://www.amazon.com/Just-Born-Colostrum-Kittens-powder/dp/B00063KN8A

Amazon.com is the only place I have had experience.







If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Marylyn, question



Marylyn where do you buy Just Born and Brush Away?

thanks very much
Jane

Re: Marylyn, question

[Jane Lyons]

Thanks Marylyn

1
Just Born Plus Colostrum for Kittens 12oz powder

this is what I ordered from Amazon.

Jane






On Jul 2, 2007, at 8:11 PM, Marylyn wrote:

Make sure you are getting the Just Born with Colostrum.  The colostrum 
is a major selling point.


Thanks for the sources.






If you have men who 
will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise 
with their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - From: Susan Dubose 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: Marylyn, question



Just Born available online also @  www.drsfosterandsmith.com
www.revivalanimal.com


I have used both, pretty fast on the shipping.

Both stay *about* the same as far as price.



Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
 As Cleopatra lay in state,
  Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
  Purring welcomes of soft applause,
  Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Marylyn, question


I get the Just Born at a feed store here but it is available at 
various pet
stores and the liquid (too expensive for long term use) is available 
at

Kroger's.

I get the Brush Away from a holistic vet I know but it is available 
on line

as is the Just Born.  The website is: http://www.petzlife.com/

Just Born with Colostrum is available on line too.  Here is a couple 
of

sites:

http://www.dresslersdog.com/petn01.html

http://www.petmountain.com/search/0/0/1/1/?s=Just+born

http://www.amazon.com/Just-Born-Colostrum-Kittens-powder/dp/B00063KN8A

Amazon.com is the only place I have had experience.







If you have men who 
will

exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise 
with

their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message - From: Jane Lyons 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Marylyn, question



Marylyn where do you buy Just Born and Brush Away?

thanks very much
Jane

Re: Pictures and a question ~ marylyn

[laurieskatz]

Hope these aren't dumb questions..what is a liver pop and what is AIHA, please?
thanks,
Laurie (dealing with high fever, anemia and low WBC).
 
  On 7/1/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Not necessarily on topicMai Mai had AIHA and it improved with 
the addition of liver (yuck) to her food + alternative vet treatments.  I have 
to wonder if anemic cats would benefit from liver pops 

Attn: Marylyn

[Susan Dubose]

Hi Marylyn,

Could tell me what Primal Raw is,  where you buy it?

Also, what is Fast Track?

Thanks so much!

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:48 PM
  Subject: Re: just beginning


  Repeating myself re Dixie's diet which seems to be working great for her:  
She gets Transfer Factor, Just Born, a supplement Dr. Boswell fixed for FeLV+, 
lots of high vitamin c veggies (carrots, spinach, broccoli, green beans and 
peas) ground up and mixed with Primal Raw, Fast Track and various probiotics, 
Lysine, Interferon (oral every other day), Barley Cat and now Sheep's yogurt.  
Obviously she doesn't get every thing every day.  A lot depends on what is 
going on with her and what just feels right at the time.  She eats 2-3 times a 
day and really has surprised me with the veggies and yogurt.  This girl eats 
better than I do.  I use Brush Away on her teeth (almost daily).  She is 
wonderfully happy and healthy and I look forward to many years with her.  She 
has been with me over 2 years and is probably around 5 years old.  She is a 
throw-away so no one is sure of anythingjust that she is marvelous 
and amazingly grateful for anything you give her.

  An idea if you can handle it:  Start writing Monkee stories and emailing them 
to yourself and/or your friends so you will always have all the wonderful 
memories.  The purrs, how Monkee got the name, how he came into your life, 
litter training.. all those things that tend to disappear from the 
mind when it is totally stressed as yours is.  This may help you clear your own 
mind and get very close to Monkee.  It will definitely help to read and re-read 
them when, hopefully a very long time from now, Monkee leaves this world.  






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Susan Dubose 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: just beginning


I have to agree w/ your comments about chemo.

I think that it is a decision left within the family, and there should be 
no judgement as to what is decided.

No one knows your cat better than yourself, and if you listen to what they 
are saying to you, you will know the right thing to do in your heart.

Every morning I put Lysine in my 4 felv+ cats moist food, and I sprinkle 
Brewer's Yeast on top of their dry food.

As far as dry food they only get Wellness Core mixed half  half w/ 
Innova Evo, and for now, this combination seems to be working for them.



Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:13 PM
  Subject: Re: just beginning


  A comment on chemo:  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt (not FeLV+) had a 
cancer that spread and was vicious.  The specialists were very insistent on 
chemo.  I went to my vets and we had a very long hard talk (actually several of 
them since they are very good at holding my hand when things turn ugly).  There 
are several types of chemo.  The one Kitty would have to have was rough to put 
it mildly.  I think she was to be on it for 6 months.  Without it she was to 
live about 2 months and with it maybe 6-8 months (according to the 
specialists).  My vets and I agreed that there was no quality of life to gain 
and, as much as Kitty hated vets, traveling etc, a lot to lose.  We opted not 
to even try the chemo.  Kitty lived 14 months and had a high quality of life.  
Her lungs filled with the masses but she never seemed to be in any pain---some 
discomfort but not nearly what she would be in had I forced her to travel.  So 
much

Re: Prayers needed for Bandy -- Marylyn

[Kerry Roach]

You know I had thought about the yogurt and probiotics..but just didn't do 
it..until last night..I have some in the refrigerator...so I looked in one of 
my natural books to check the dosage...opened a cap, tasted of it then mixed 
about 1/2 in some water and shot it in him..He took it real well...I did 
mention it to them, but they didn't say to much when I took him in today so 
when I go visit tonight, I may just take some with me and sneak it in cause he 
won't get any other meds at that time...I know people sprinkle it on food so I 
hope it is ok to use it like this..what do you think?
  Thanks so much,
  Kerry, Bandy and Inky

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Re: Prayers needed for Bandy -- Marylyn

[Marylyn]

That works for me.  Just don't use real warm water to mix it in.  It will kill 
the bacteria.  Frankly, I don't think you can over-dose on probiotics.  At 
least that is what my people doctors tell me and my personal vets and 
alternative vets say re critters.

I would sneak it in or give it openly or whatever it took to get it in my cat.  
 Frankly, there are just times I don't care what anyone thinks as long as I 
believe I am doing what I think is right for my pet.  

Good luck and keep me posted. 





 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kerry Roach 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Prayers needed for Bandy -- Marylyn


  You know I had thought about the yogurt and probiotics..but just didn't do 
it..until last night..I have some in the refrigerator...so I looked in one of 
my natural books to check the dosage...opened a cap, tasted of it then mixed 
about 1/2 in some water and shot it in him..He took it real well...I did 
mention it to them, but they didn't say to much when I took him in today so 
when I go visit tonight, I may just take some with me and sneak it in cause he 
won't get any other meds at that time...I know people sprinkle it on food so I 
hope it is ok to use it like this..what do you think?
  Thanks so much,
  Kerry, Bandy and Inky
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Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle/Marylyn

[Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.]

Thanks Marylyn.  Do you mean Animal Communicators?  Yes, I do believe in them, 
although realizing some are better than others as in all things.  I did not 
think you doubted my decision.  I said that about always being glad of this 
decision as I have gone through so much in the past 3 yrs related to illness 
and death that have taught me much about who I am and what I think is right to 
do and how that can change so rapidly with terminal illness.  If there is a 
chance for treatment and quality of a longer life, I will choose that if I am 
able to provide that for person or animal.  Quality of life during treatment is 
so important, my dad lived one month to the day from a diagnosis of stage 4 
cancer, 4 different kinds in his body and he refused treatment but his family 
was with him that last month and I am so grateful I could be with him in his 
final days.  I remember so many little things we shared that month that bring 
me joy and laughter.  Yet it was also painful and still is on some levelsI 
miss him much of course.

Follow my heart is the best advice anyone can giveI recommend it to people 
often :)

BTW, I love the St. Frances quote.

Dianne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


  I do not doubt your decisions.  I just point out that no one knows the length 
of a being's life.  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt had masses in her lungs and 
other organs.  The decisions we made were right for us and she was a full 
partner in making them.  I don't know if you believe in ACs or not.  I asked 6 
to talk to her and each came back with the same thing..no chemo, no 
vets, no traveling.  I was very unsure of what I was getting from her.  They 
confirmed all of it.  I have no clue how she managed to hang on so long.  Nor 
do the vets.  She was running after Dixie Louise when the vets, after looking 
at lung x-rays, didn't think she could move very much.  

  You are on the right track for you and for Asia.  I am sure of this.  Hang in 
there and follow your heart.  



   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


Thank you.  With the size of Asia's tumor in her chest pressing on her 
lungs, she would not have been able to breathe for 15 months and maybe not even 
for a week longer.  I was not willing to give up on her at this time and will 
always be glad for that decision.

Thanks for your blessings!

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt was diagnosed with cancer and I was told 
she would live (maybe) a couple of months without treatment--very harsh chemo.  
She and I opted not to do the chemo after a lot of soul searching and very in 
depth conversations with the vets and with a number (6) acs I know.  She lived 
about 15 months and those were very high quality until about 2 weeks before she 
left.  

  You never know ...

  Good luck and all the blessings to you and your family -- both 2 legged 
and 4 legged.  






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


I think that you have the perfect attitude, actually.  And I am sorry 
for all you have been through.  We have lost 9 animals in 5 years, plus a 
human, most after long illnesses, so truly understand what you are saying.  At 
this point I freak out at the slightest sign of illness, fearing something 
terminal.  But we also have a sheep who had acute kidney failure from copper 
poisoning and they did not think she would make it, and she not only made it 
but her kidneys have come closer to normal values than they said was even 
possible, knock on wood

Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle/Marylyn

[Marylyn]

Yes, I mean animal communicators and, with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt, I 
would not trust 1 or 2 or even 3.  The decisions were to important.  And some 
are good in certain areas and not others.  Most will tell you this.  If not, 
run...

My own father made very realistic decisions about his health and life.  It is 
very painful but, knowing the decisions were well thought out and being there, 
well.it helps.  Sometimes.

   






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34 AM
  Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle/Marylyn


  Thanks Marylyn.  Do you mean Animal Communicators?  Yes, I do believe in 
them, although realizing some are better than others as in all things.  I did 
not think you doubted my decision.  I said that about always being glad of this 
decision as I have gone through so much in the past 3 yrs related to illness 
and death that have taught me much about who I am and what I think is right to 
do and how that can change so rapidly with terminal illness.  If there is a 
chance for treatment and quality of a longer life, I will choose that if I am 
able to provide that for person or animal.  Quality of life during treatment is 
so important, my dad lived one month to the day from a diagnosis of stage 4 
cancer, 4 different kinds in his body and he refused treatment but his family 
was with him that last month and I am so grateful I could be with him in his 
final days.  I remember so many little things we shared that month that bring 
me joy and laughter.  Yet it was also painful and still is on some levelsI 
miss him much of course.

  Follow my heart is the best advice anyone can giveI recommend it to 
people often :)

  BTW, I love the St. Frances quote.

  Dianne


- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


I do not doubt your decisions.  I just point out that no one knows the 
length of a being's life.  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt had masses in her 
lungs and other organs.  The decisions we made were right for us and she was a 
full partner in making them.  I don't know if you believe in ACs or not.  I 
asked 6 to talk to her and each came back with the same thing..no 
chemo, no vets, no traveling.  I was very unsure of what I was getting from 
her.  They confirmed all of it.  I have no clue how she managed to hang on so 
long.  Nor do the vets.  She was running after Dixie Louise when the vets, 
after looking at lung x-rays, didn't think she could move very much.  

You are on the right track for you and for Asia.  I am sure of this.  Hang 
in there and follow your heart.  



 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:51 AM
  Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


  Thank you.  With the size of Asia's tumor in her chest pressing on her 
lungs, she would not have been able to breathe for 15 months and maybe not even 
for a week longer.  I was not willing to give up on her at this time and will 
always be glad for that decision.

  Thanks for your blessings!

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


The Royal Princess Kitty Katt was diagnosed with cancer and I was told 
she would live (maybe) a couple of months without treatment--very harsh chemo.  
She and I opted not to do the chemo after a lot of soul searching and very in 
depth conversations with the vets and with a number (6) acs I know.  She lived 
about 15 months and those were very high quality until about 2 weeks before she 
left.  

You never know ...

Good luck and all the blessings to you and your family -- both 2 legged 
and 4 legged.  






 If you have

Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle/Marylyn

[Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.]

do you have contact names and numbers for some good ones?  I am in the Sarasota 
area in Florida.  We have some in area but

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle/Marylyn


  Yes, I mean animal communicators and, with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt, I 
would not trust 1 or 2 or even 3.  The decisions were to important.  And some 
are good in certain areas and not others.  Most will tell you this.  If not, 
run...

  My own father made very realistic decisions about his health and life.  It is 
very painful but, knowing the decisions were well thought out and being there, 
well.it helps.  Sometimes.

 






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle/Marylyn


Thanks Marylyn.  Do you mean Animal Communicators?  Yes, I do believe in 
them, although realizing some are better than others as in all things.  I did 
not think you doubted my decision.  I said that about always being glad of this 
decision as I have gone through so much in the past 3 yrs related to illness 
and death that have taught me much about who I am and what I think is right to 
do and how that can change so rapidly with terminal illness.  If there is a 
chance for treatment and quality of a longer life, I will choose that if I am 
able to provide that for person or animal.  Quality of life during treatment is 
so important, my dad lived one month to the day from a diagnosis of stage 4 
cancer, 4 different kinds in his body and he refused treatment but his family 
was with him that last month and I am so grateful I could be with him in his 
final days.  I remember so many little things we shared that month that bring 
me joy and laughter.  Yet it was also painful and still is on some levelsI 
miss him much of course.

Follow my heart is the best advice anyone can giveI recommend it to 
people often :)

BTW, I love the St. Frances quote.

Dianne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


  I do not doubt your decisions.  I just point out that no one knows the 
length of a being's life.  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt had masses in her 
lungs and other organs.  The decisions we made were right for us and she was a 
full partner in making them.  I don't know if you believe in ACs or not.  I 
asked 6 to talk to her and each came back with the same thing..no 
chemo, no vets, no traveling.  I was very unsure of what I was getting from 
her.  They confirmed all of it.  I have no clue how she managed to hang on so 
long.  Nor do the vets.  She was running after Dixie Louise when the vets, 
after looking at lung x-rays, didn't think she could move very much.  

  You are on the right track for you and for Asia.  I am sure of this.  
Hang in there and follow your heart.  



   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


Thank you.  With the size of Asia's tumor in her chest pressing on her 
lungs, she would not have been able to breathe for 15 months and maybe not even 
for a week longer.  I was not willing to give up on her at this time and will 
always be glad for that decision.

Thanks for your blessings!

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Dr. Ward's consult/Michelle


  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt was diagnosed with cancer and I was 
told she would live (maybe) a couple of months without treatment--very harsh 
chemo.  She and I opted not to do the chemo after a lot of soul

Re: Marylyn

[Marylyn]

Rainbow Bridge is a wonderful story often shown 
with a rainbow and various critters around. I see that someone has sent 
you a link that is very much like the card my vets send out. It is a 
wonderful story that I truly believe. However, some of my pets were well 
known and loved by my father and I know they crossed the Bridge to be with 
him. They will greet me from inside as I cross over with the rest. 
It gives me great peace to know they are with him and he with them. 







 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  kandbz_ 
  mom 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:31 
  PM
  Subject: To: Marylyn
  
  Is the copy of Rainbow Bridge a picture or a poem? I would love to 
  see it. 
  
  KarenMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  My 
vets do that, including my alternative vet. Most of the time they 
enclose a copy of Rainbow Bridge. They are the greatest. The kennel I 
left my dogs at sent flowers when Allie Beagle left this 
world.If you have men who will exclude any 
of God's creaturesfrom the shelter of compassion and pity, you will 
have men whowill deal likewise with their fellow man.St. 
Francis- Original Message - From: "wendy" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Sent: Tuesday, 
September 05, 2006 6:30 PMSubject: Re: The vet I had taken Angel 
to... My vet sent one when Cricket died. All the vet 
techs signed it, and he did too. It made me feel 
good. :) Wendy --- kandbz_ mom 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: As many of you know, the 
vet I had originally taken Angel to wanted me to have her 
euthanized right away after she tested positive. I had spent 
weeks looking for a new vet for her and finally decided 
to try this one, when she became ill and needed to 
be seen last week. I just wanted to 
share that a lady from the vets office had called me last Wed. 
to check on Angel. I had to share the bad news and tell her I 
had lost Angel. Anyway, the vet himself sent me a 
condolence card in the mail yesterday and I really thought 
that was nice. I mean, how many vets take the time to 
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Is the copy of Rainbow Bridge a picture or a poem? I would love to see it. KarenMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  My vets do that, including my alternative vet. Most of the time they enclose a copy of Rainbow Bridge. They are the greatest. The kennel I left my dogs at sent flowers when Allie Beagle left this world.If you have men who will exclude any of God's creaturesfrom the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men whowill deal likewise with their fellow man.St. Francis- Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:30 PMSubject: Re: The vet I had taken Angel to... My vet sent one when Cricket died.
 All the vet techs signed it, and he did too. It made me feel good. :) Wendy --- kandbz_ mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: As many of you know, the vet I had originally taken Angel to wanted me to have her euthanized right away after she tested positive. I had spent weeks looking for a new vet for her and finally decided to try this one, when she became ill and needed to be seen last week. I just wanted to share that a lady from the vets office had called me last Wed. to check on Angel. I had to share the bad news and tell her I had lost Angel. Anyway, the vet himself sent me a condolence card in the mail yesterday and I really thought that was nice. I mean, how many vets take the time to do that? It was very comforting to
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[kelly]

At 08:31 PM 9/6/2006, you wrote:
Here is one link to the Rainbow Bridge

http://rainbowsbridge.com/Poem.htm

Is the copy of Rainbow
Bridge a picture or a poem? I would love to see it. 

Karen
Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My vets do that, including my alternative vet. Most of the time they


enclose a copy of Rainbow Bridge. They are the greatest. The kennel I
left 

my dogs at sent flowers when Allie Beagle left this world.




If you have men who will 

exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of 

compassion and pity, you will have men who

will deal likewise with 

their fellow man.

St. 

Francis

- Original Message - 

From: wendy 

To: 

Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:30 PM

Subject: Re: The vet I had taken Angel to...


 My vet sent one when Cricket died. All the vet techs

 signed it, and he did too. It made me feel good.



 :)

 Wendy



 --- kandbz_ mom wrote:



 As many of you know, the vet I had originally taken

 Angel to wanted me to have her euthanized right away

 after she tested positive. I had spent weeks

 looking for a new vet for her and finally decided to

 try this one, when she became ill and needed to be

 seen last week.



 I just wanted to share that a lady from the vets

 office had called me last Wed. to check on Angel. I

 had to share the bad news and tell her I had lost

 Angel. Anyway, the vet himself sent me a condolence

 card in the mail yesterday and I really thought that

 was nice. I mean, how many vets take the time to do

 that?



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RE: For Belinda, Rebecca, Janine, Marylyn, Clarissa, Becca

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ignore the woman behind the curtain . clarissa is just an email i hang onto. 
Karen - Mansfield, Ohio 


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Re: For Belinda, Rebecca, Janine, Marylyn, Clarissa, Becca

[Brenda K. Smith]

Hi Kerry,
I live in Herbster, Wisconsin.  It is a very tiny little town in 
northern Wi.  Thanks Janine


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   Hi Kerry,
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For Belinda, Rebecca, Janine, Marylyn, Clarissa, Becca

[Kerry MacKenzie]

Hi all I'm 
wrapping up the letter with all your wonderful testimonials about the joys of 
living with and/or caring for FeLV cats to Paula Fasseas in hopes she will, as 
she indicated, assign one of the rooms in her new shelter to FeLV cats. 
Could you please also let me have your city and 
state to add after your name- I'll just be using first names of course (eg 
"Gloria, Little Rock, Arkansas"). I already have MaryChristine's, Wendy's, 
Terri's and Gloria's, but not Belinda's, Rebecca's, Janine's, Marylyn's, 
Clarissa's or Becca's. Many thanks, Kerry

Re: For Belinda, Rebecca, Janine, Marylyn, Clarissa, Becca

[Becca DuBose]

Kerry,Madison, TN(Or you can use Nashville, TN since that's more familiar...Madison is a suburb.)BeccaKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all I'm  wrapping up the letter with all your wonderful testimonials about the joys of  living with and/or caring for FeLV cats to Paula Fasseas in hopes she will, as  she indicated, assign one of the rooms in her new shelter to FeLV cats.  Could you please also let me have your city and  state to add after your name- I'll just be using first names of course (eg  "Gloria, Little Rock, Arkansas"). I
 already have MaryChristine's, Wendy's,  Terri's and Gloria's, but not Belinda's, Rebecca's, Janine's, Marylyn's,  Clarissa's or Becca's. Many thanks, Kerry 

Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Marylyn]

Thanks.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Becca DuBose [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty





Marylyn wrote:

Please add to that prayer that, if she can't get better, she be allowed 
to leave this world peacefully, on her own terms and without assistance. 
She totally hates car rides and vets.  Let her Maker take her into His 
Loving Hands quietly and quickly and gently.   Given the extent of the 
cancer and her wishes, this is the kindest prayer and it is mine.



I found myself having to pray the same prayer...of course I asked for 
healing, but if there could not be healing, comfort.  I wish the same for 
Kitty.


Becca

Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[PEC2851]

Marylyn~
My thoughts and prayers are with you and Kitty.
By respecting her wishes, you are indeed showing your immense love for 
her.
Patti

Marylyn: OT: New journey-laying tile!!!

[wendy]

Thanks for all the tips Marylyn.  I'm going to see if
I can get my hands on some of that OdoBan.  I don't
have a Sam's card, but I bet I can find it somewhere
else.  We are going to go with grout that matches the
tile, so it won't be dark or white for sure, but I
will keep that in mind before all is said and done as
things have a way of changing.  

:)
Wendy

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Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[wendy]

Marylyn,

I am keeping Kitty in my prayers.  And you as well.  I
hope you are doing ok with this.  You seem so calm and
at peace with struggle.  I wish I had been that way
with Cricket.  Please keep us posted.

:)
Wendy

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Re: Marylyn: OT: New journey-laying tile!!!

[Marylyn]

Sam's will now let you in without a card but you have to pay 10% (?) more. 
It is worth it.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:19 AM
Subject: Marylyn: OT: New journey-laying tile!!!



Thanks for all the tips Marylyn.  I'm going to see if
I can get my hands on some of that OdoBan.  I don't
have a Sam's card, but I bet I can find it somewhere
else.  We are going to go with grout that matches the
tile, so it won't be dark or white for sure, but I
will keep that in mind before all is said and done as
things have a way of changing.

:)
Wendy

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Marylyn: OT: New journey-laying tile!!!

[wendy]

I did not know that-I will definitely do that then. 
10% isn't a lot.  About how much is the OdoBan
concentrate at Sams?  And how much square footage do
you think it will cover?  Would you put anything else
on the concrete after you use the OdoBan?

Thanks Marylyn,
:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sam's will now let you in without a card but you
 have to pay 10% (?) more. 
 It is worth it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:19 AM
 Subject: Marylyn: OT: New journey-laying tile!!!
 
 
  Thanks for all the tips Marylyn.  I'm going to see
 if
  I can get my hands on some of that OdoBan.  I
 don't
  have a Sam's card, but I bet I can find it
 somewhere
  else.  We are going to go with grout that matches
 the
  tile, so it won't be dark or white for sure, but I
  will keep that in mind before all is said and done
 as
  things have a way of changing.
 
  :)
  Wendy
 
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Re: Marylyn: OT: New journey-laying tile!!!

[Marylyn]

About $10. for a gallon that makes 32 gallons.  Given what I think you are 
up against I would make it make 8 gallons.  I'm not sure what that would 
cover but bet 2 gallons will more than take care of anything you need.  If 
you like it as much as I do, you will keep finding uses for it.  And the 
flower odor is not overwhelming or fake.


You might want to call your Sam's and make sure they are doing what they 
are in Louisville (letting non members in).







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: Marylyn: OT: New journey-laying tile!!!



I did not know that-I will definitely do that then.
10% isn't a lot.  About how much is the OdoBan
concentrate at Sams?  And how much square footage do
you think it will cover?  Would you put anything else
on the concrete after you use the OdoBan?

Thanks Marylyn,
:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sam's will now let you in without a card but you
have to pay 10% (?) more.
It is worth it.






 If
you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who

will deal likewise with
their fellow man.

 St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:19 AM
Subject: Marylyn: OT: New journey-laying tile!!!


 Thanks for all the tips Marylyn.  I'm going to see
if
 I can get my hands on some of that OdoBan.  I
don't
 have a Sam's card, but I bet I can find it
somewhere
 else.  We are going to go with grout that matches
the
 tile, so it won't be dark or white for sure, but I
 will keep that in mind before all is said and done
as
 things have a way of changing.

 :)
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Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Becca DuBose]

Marylyn wrote:

Please add to that prayer that, if she can't get better, she be 
allowed to leave this world peacefully, on her own terms and without 
assistance.  She totally hates car rides and vets.  Let her Maker take 
her into His Loving Hands quietly and quickly and gently.   Given the 
extent of the cancer and her wishes, this is the kindest prayer and it 
is mine.



I found myself having to pray the same prayer...of course I asked for 
healing, but if there could not be healing, comfort.  I wish the same 
for Kitty.


Becca

To Marylyn

[wendy]

Hi Marylyn,

Prayers coming your way for Kitty.  Please keep us
posted on her.  I am still trying to name my little
new one.  For now, we have been calling her Kitty
since she doesn't have a name.  I asked my husband
what he thought about Miss Kitty, and he didn't like
it much.  I'm still drawing a blank on a name, even
after asking Kitty what she'd like to be called.  I am
thinking about going through one of those pet name
books.  Any thoughts?  If we did decided to keep her
as Kitty, would you be offended?

Thanks,
Wendy


--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ask her what she needs and wants.  Kitty was very
 plain about it all.  No chemo.  No intervention. 
 Forget it .  Nope.  No way.  This was in Jan to Feb
 2005.  We are having problems now.  I ask prayers
 that I will continue to abide by her wishes.  This
 may be your prayer.  If it is, I hope you  can do
 it.  I never knew how hard it was to intentionally
 do nothing.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
 have men who 
 
 will deal likewise with their fellow man.
 
  St. Francis
   - Original Message - 
   From: catatonya 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 PM
   Subject: Re: KATIE
 
 
   Sharon,
 
   Prayers to you and Mistic.
 
   tonya
 
   sharon MISTIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just got back from the vet, they found fluid
 that was pressing on her esophagus, making it hard
 for her to swallow.  Now they see a mass in one of
 her lymphglands, and I am waiting for results of the
 tests.  If she has lymphoma, they suggest
 chemotherapy treatment. If she also has FeLV, would
 this weaken her system more? Can she also get FelV
 treatment at the same time? I am very worried about
 her, she ate today, but sleeps a lot more.  Please
 pray for her and that she gets the help she needs.
 Sharon
 
 


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Re: To Marylyn

[Marylyn]

No, I would not be offended.  I like the name even though I had nothing to 
do with giving it to her.


Take your time.  She will tell you her name.  Maybe she wants to make sure 
she is staying with you all her life before she does.


Thanks for the prayers.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: To Marylyn



Hi Marylyn,

Prayers coming your way for Kitty.  Please keep us
posted on her.  I am still trying to name my little
new one.  For now, we have been calling her Kitty
since she doesn't have a name.  I asked my husband
what he thought about Miss Kitty, and he didn't like
it much.  I'm still drawing a blank on a name, even
after asking Kitty what she'd like to be called.  I am
thinking about going through one of those pet name
books.  Any thoughts?  If we did decided to keep her
as Kitty, would you be offended?

Thanks,
Wendy


--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ask her what she needs and wants.  Kitty was very
plain about it all.  No chemo.  No intervention.
Forget it .  Nope.  No way.  This was in Jan to Feb
2005.  We are having problems now.  I ask prayers
that I will continue to abide by her wishes.  This
may be your prayer.  If it is, I hope you  can do
it.  I never knew how hard it was to intentionally
do nothing.






 If
you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
have men who

will deal likewise with their fellow man.

 St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: KATIE


  Sharon,

  Prayers to you and Mistic.

  tonya

  sharon MISTIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got back from the vet, they found fluid
that was pressing on her esophagus, making it hard
for her to swallow.  Now they see a mass in one of
her lymphglands, and I am waiting for results of the
tests.  If she has lymphoma, they suggest
chemotherapy treatment. If she also has FeLV, would
this weaken her system more? Can she also get FelV
treatment at the same time? I am very worried about
her, she ate today, but sleeps a lot more.  Please
pray for her and that she gets the help she needs.
Sharon





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[wendy]

Thanks for the advice Marylyn.  You are right.  I do
need to take my time.  I haven't spent enough time
with her to know her personality very well, thus her
name.  I'll let you know what we decide (Kitty and I).

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, I would not be offended.  I like the name even
 though I had nothing to 
 do with giving it to her.
 
 Take your time.  She will tell you her name.  Maybe
 she wants to make sure 
 she is staying with you all her life before she
 does.
 
 Thanks for the prayers.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:33 AM
 Subject: To Marylyn
 
 
  Hi Marylyn,
 
  Prayers coming your way for Kitty.  Please keep us
  posted on her.  I am still trying to name my
 little
  new one.  For now, we have been calling her Kitty
  since she doesn't have a name.  I asked my husband
  what he thought about Miss Kitty, and he didn't
 like
  it much.  I'm still drawing a blank on a name,
 even
  after asking Kitty what she'd like to be called. 
 I am
  thinking about going through one of those pet name
  books.  Any thoughts?  If we did decided to keep
 her
  as Kitty, would you be offended?
 
  Thanks,
  Wendy
 
 
  --- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ask her what she needs and wants.  Kitty was very
  plain about it all.  No chemo.  No intervention.
  Forget it .  Nope.  No way.  This was in Jan to
 Feb
  2005.  We are having problems now.  I ask prayers
  that I will continue to abide by her wishes. 
 This
  may be your prayer.  If it is, I hope you  can do
  it.  I never knew how hard it was to
 intentionally
  do nothing.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 If
  you have men who will exclude any of God's
 creatures
 
  from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
  have men who
 
  will deal likewise with their fellow man.
 
   St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: catatonya
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: KATIE
 
 
Sharon,
 
Prayers to you and Mistic.
 
tonya
 
sharon MISTIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just got back from the vet, they found
 fluid
  that was pressing on her esophagus, making it
 hard
  for her to swallow.  Now they see a mass in one
 of
  her lymphglands, and I am waiting for results of
 the
  tests.  If she has lymphoma, they suggest
  chemotherapy treatment. If she also has FeLV,
 would
  this weaken her system more? Can she also get
 FelV
  treatment at the same time? I am very worried
 about
  her, she ate today, but sleeps a lot more. 
 Please
  pray for her and that she gets the help she
 needs.
  Sharon
 
 
 
 
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Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Marylyn]

Kitty is not eating but seems comfortable.  An AC I know has talked to her 
and she says she is in no pain.  She acknowledges that she is not eating but 
says that is as it is supposed to be.  She simply wants to be left alone.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: To Marylyn



Hi Marylyn,

Prayers coming your way for Kitty.  Please keep us
posted on her.  I am still trying to name my little
new one.  For now, we have been calling her Kitty
since she doesn't have a name.  I asked my husband
what he thought about Miss Kitty, and he didn't like
it much.  I'm still drawing a blank on a name, even
after asking Kitty what she'd like to be called.  I am
thinking about going through one of those pet name
books.  Any thoughts?  If we did decided to keep her
as Kitty, would you be offended?

Thanks,
Wendy


--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ask her what she needs and wants.  Kitty was very
plain about it all.  No chemo.  No intervention.
Forget it .  Nope.  No way.  This was in Jan to Feb
2005.  We are having problems now.  I ask prayers
that I will continue to abide by her wishes.  This
may be your prayer.  If it is, I hope you  can do
it.  I never knew how hard it was to intentionally
do nothing.






 If
you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
have men who

will deal likewise with their fellow man.

 St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: KATIE


  Sharon,

  Prayers to you and Mistic.

  tonya

  sharon MISTIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got back from the vet, they found fluid
that was pressing on her esophagus, making it hard
for her to swallow.  Now they see a mass in one of
her lymphglands, and I am waiting for results of the
tests.  If she has lymphoma, they suggest
chemotherapy treatment. If she also has FeLV, would
this weaken her system more? Can she also get FelV
treatment at the same time? I am very worried about
her, she ate today, but sleeps a lot more.  Please
pray for her and that she gets the help she needs.
Sharon





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Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Marylyn]

Please add to that prayer that, if she can't get better, she be allowed to 
leave this world peacefully, on her own terms and without assistance.  She 
totally hates car rides and vets.  Let her Maker take her into His Loving 
Hands quietly and quickly and gently.   Given the extent of the cancer and 
her wishes, this is the kindest prayer and it is mine.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: To Marylyn Re Kitty



Marylyn - I am praying that Kitty will feel better very very soon.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

Kitty is not eating but seems comfortable.  An AC I know has talked to
her
and she says she is in no pain.  She acknowledges that she is not eating
but
says that is as it is supposed to be.  She simply wants to be left
alone.






If you have men who
will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with

their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: To Marylyn



Hi Marylyn,

Prayers coming your way for Kitty.  Please keep us
posted on her.  I am still trying to name my little
new one.  For now, we have been calling her Kitty
since she doesn't have a name.  I asked my husband
what he thought about Miss Kitty, and he didn't like
it much.  I'm still drawing a blank on a name, even
after asking Kitty what she'd like to be called.  I am
thinking about going through one of those pet name
books.  Any thoughts?  If we did decided to keep her
as Kitty, would you be offended?

Thanks,
Wendy


--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ask her what she needs and wants.  Kitty was very
plain about it all.  No chemo.  No intervention.
Forget it .  Nope.  No way.  This was in Jan to Feb
2005.  We are having problems now.  I ask prayers
that I will continue to abide by her wishes.  This
may be your prayer.  If it is, I hope you  can do
it.  I never knew how hard it was to intentionally
do nothing.






 If
you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
have men who

will deal likewise with their fellow man.

 St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: KATIE


  Sharon,

  Prayers to you and Mistic.

  tonya

  sharon MISTIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got back from the vet, they found fluid
that was pressing on her esophagus, making it hard
for her to swallow.  Now they see a mass in one of
her lymphglands, and I am waiting for results of the
tests.  If she has lymphoma, they suggest
chemotherapy treatment. If she also has FeLV, would
this weaken her system more? Can she also get FelV
treatment at the same time? I am very worried about
her, she ate today, but sleeps a lot more.  Please
pray for her and that she gets the help she needs.
Sharon





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RE: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Will do, Marylyn - I will pray that she will be guided and protected by
her guardian angel to a peaceful journey whatever it means..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

Please add to that prayer that, if she can't get better, she be allowed
to 
leave this world peacefully, on her own terms and without assistance.
She 
totally hates car rides and vets.  Let her Maker take her into His
Loving 
Hands quietly and quickly and gently.   Given the extent of the cancer
and 
her wishes, this is the kindest prayer and it is mine.





 If you have men who
will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise with

their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: To Marylyn Re Kitty


 Marylyn - I am praying that Kitty will feel better very very soon.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
 Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:01 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

 Kitty is not eating but seems comfortable.  An AC I know has talked to
 her
 and she says she is in no pain.  She acknowledges that she is not
eating
 but
 says that is as it is supposed to be.  She simply wants to be left
 alone.






 If you have men who
 will
 exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise
with

 their fellow man.
  St.
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:33 AM
 Subject: To Marylyn


 Hi Marylyn,

 Prayers coming your way for Kitty.  Please keep us
 posted on her.  I am still trying to name my little
 new one.  For now, we have been calling her Kitty
 since she doesn't have a name.  I asked my husband
 what he thought about Miss Kitty, and he didn't like
 it much.  I'm still drawing a blank on a name, even
 after asking Kitty what she'd like to be called.  I am
 thinking about going through one of those pet name
 books.  Any thoughts?  If we did decided to keep her
 as Kitty, would you be offended?

 Thanks,
 Wendy


 --- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ask her what she needs and wants.  Kitty was very
 plain about it all.  No chemo.  No intervention.
 Forget it .  Nope.  No way.  This was in Jan to Feb
 2005.  We are having problems now.  I ask prayers
 that I will continue to abide by her wishes.  This
 may be your prayer.  If it is, I hope you  can do
 it.  I never knew how hard it was to intentionally
 do nothing.






  If
 you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures

 from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
 have men who

 will deal likewise with their fellow man.

  St. Francis
   - Original Message - 
   From: catatonya
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 PM
   Subject: Re: KATIE


   Sharon,

   Prayers to you and Mistic.

   tonya

   sharon MISTIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just got back from the vet, they found fluid
 that was pressing on her esophagus, making it hard
 for her to swallow.  Now they see a mass in one of
 her lymphglands, and I am waiting for results of the
 tests.  If she has lymphoma, they suggest
 chemotherapy treatment. If she also has FeLV, would
 this weaken her system more? Can she also get FelV
 treatment at the same time? I am very worried about
 her, she ate today, but sleeps a lot more.  Please
 pray for her and that she gets the help she needs.
 Sharon




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Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Marylyn]

Thanks.  I really believe that is what each of us wants for herself.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: To Marylyn Re Kitty



Will do, Marylyn - I will pray that she will be guided and protected by
her guardian angel to a peaceful journey whatever it means..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

Please add to that prayer that, if she can't get better, she be allowed
to
leave this world peacefully, on her own terms and without assistance.
She
totally hates car rides and vets.  Let her Maker take her into His
Loving
Hands quietly and quickly and gently.   Given the extent of the cancer
and
her wishes, this is the kindest prayer and it is mine.





If you have men who
will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with

their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: To Marylyn Re Kitty



Marylyn - I am praying that Kitty will feel better very very soon.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

Kitty is not eating but seems comfortable.  An AC I know has talked to
her
and she says she is in no pain.  She acknowledges that she is not

eating

but
says that is as it is supposed to be.  She simply wants to be left
alone.






If you have men who
will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise

with


their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: To Marylyn



Hi Marylyn,

Prayers coming your way for Kitty.  Please keep us
posted on her.  I am still trying to name my little
new one.  For now, we have been calling her Kitty
since she doesn't have a name.  I asked my husband
what he thought about Miss Kitty, and he didn't like
it much.  I'm still drawing a blank on a name, even
after asking Kitty what she'd like to be called.  I am
thinking about going through one of those pet name
books.  Any thoughts?  If we did decided to keep her
as Kitty, would you be offended?

Thanks,
Wendy


--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ask her what she needs and wants.  Kitty was very
plain about it all.  No chemo.  No intervention.
Forget it .  Nope.  No way.  This was in Jan to Feb
2005.  We are having problems now.  I ask prayers
that I will continue to abide by her wishes.  This
may be your prayer.  If it is, I hope you  can do
it.  I never knew how hard it was to intentionally
do nothing.






 If
you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
have men who

will deal likewise with their fellow man.

 St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: KATIE


  Sharon,

  Prayers to you and Mistic.

  tonya

  sharon MISTIC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got back from the vet, they found fluid
that was pressing on her esophagus, making it hard
for her to swallow.  Now they see a mass in one of
her lymphglands, and I am waiting for results of the
tests.  If she has lymphoma, they suggest
chemotherapy treatment. If she also has FeLV, would
this weaken her system more? Can she also get FelV
treatment at the same time? I am very worried about
her, she ate today, but sleeps a lot more.  Please
pray for her and that she gets the help she needs.
Sharon





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Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Lance]

I'll be praying for Kitty, and for you also, Marylyn.

Lance

Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Marylyn]

I wish she liked them. She was raised feral 
and isn't a very affectionate cat in the way most house cats are. But when 
she chooses to show love, it is the most wonderful thing. You know it is 
genuine, not habit. I am telling her of all the people caring about her 
and her journey. I am sure she can feel that.






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 7:02 
PM
  Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty
  
  I'm glad she seems comfortable.
  
  Give Kitty headbutts and kisses from all of us here.
  
  tonyaMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  Kitty 
is not eating but seems comfortable. An AC I know has talked to her and 
she says she is in no pain. She acknowledges that she is not eating but 
says that is as it is supposed to be. She simply wants to be left 
alone.If you have men who will exclude any 
of God's creaturesfrom the shelter of compassion and pity, you will 
have men whowill deal likewise with their fellow man.St. 
Francis- Original Message - From: "wendy" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Sent: Monday, 
April 03, 2006 9:33 AMSubject: To Marylyn Hi 
Marylyn, Prayers coming your way for Kitty. Please keep 
us posted on her. I am still trying to name my little new 
one. For now, we have been calling her Kitty since she doesn't have 
a name. I asked my husband what he thought about Miss Kitty, and he 
didn't like it much. I'm still drawing a blank on a name, 
even after asking Kitty what she'd like to be called. I am 
thinking about going through one of those pet name books. Any 
thoughts? If we did decided to keep her as Kitty, would you be 
offended? Thanks, Wendy --- 
Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Ask her what she 
needs and wants. Kitty was very plain about it all. No chemo. No 
intervention. Forget it . Nope. No way. This was in Jan to 
Feb 2005. We are having problems now. I ask prayers 
that I will continue to abide by her wishes. This may be your 
prayer. If it is, I hope you can do it. I never knew how hard it 
was to intentionally do 
nothing. 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, 
you will have men who will deal likewise 
with their fellow man. St. Francis - 
Original Message -  From: catatonya To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 
PM Subject: Re: KATIE 
Sharon, Prayers to you and 
Mistic. tonya sharon MISTIC 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I just got back from the vet, they 
found fluid that was pressing on her esophagus, making it 
hard for her to swallow. Now they see a mass in one 
of her lymphglands, and I am waiting for results of 
the tests. If she has lymphoma, they suggest 
chemotherapy treatment. If she also has FeLV, would this weaken 
her system more? Can she also get FelV treatment at the same 
time? I am very worried about her, she ate today, but sleeps a 
lot more. Please pray for her and that she gets the help she 
needs. Sharon 
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Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty

[Marylyn]

Thanks.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty



I'll be praying for Kitty, and for you also, Marylyn.

Lance

Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn

[Tad Burnett]

  If she can't come in contact with an intact male
you can wait and see if she comes in heat
Tad

Nina wrote:

  
  
Marylyn,
A neighbor of mine rescued a kitty off the street and asked me to have
her spayed. Of course, she had very little money so I asked a local
shelter if we could do it through them. Poor kitty was opened up only
to find she had already been spayed. She was never the same after
that. She was never really a friendly cat, but after that she wouldn't
let anyone touch her except through a brush. Very sad. I had simply
turned her over to this group, I'll never do that again. I always take
any cats into the vet myself now. Who knows if she had rough
treatment, or disrespectful treatment, when I wasn't there. Hard
lesson learned.
  
What were the vets looking for with the blood test? Reduced hormone
levels? I have always been told, if you can't see the scar, there's no
way to know if they've been spayed before. I would do anything not to
put another cat through an experience like that poor kitty endured.
Nina
  
Marylyn wrote:
  




I took Dixie Louise to my vet to
be
spayed and she tested positive for FeLV. There were lots of
conversations about how to handle the "situation" especially since I
have Kitty, a FeLV neg cat who has cancer. To get to the point, all
the vets at the clinic, who are very friendly to all the oddities I
bring in, supported having her spayed because it was a lot less
stressful than going into heat several times a year and certainly less
stressful than a pregnancy.

Ihave friends who are animal
communicators andDixie kept telling them she had been to the vet
before. I had my vets run ablood test when they could find no surgery
scar. Seems like Dixie had been spayed by someone in the past.
Luckily, my AC friends were there for her or she would have had surgery
a second time. It is highly unlikely this would ever happen again.

Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn

[Marylyn]

They were looking at the hormone levels. 
There are two tests that can be run. I don't understand the details but 
the one they ran on Dixie was a simple blood test. The other involves 
giving the cathormones and seeing what the reactionis. I would 
have loved to have seen my vet's face when the test results came in. He 
was very sure she was intact. Anyway, when he called it was "Dixie is 
either a male or she has been spayed." I understand an ultrasound and a 
very good reader can tell. I was a big believer in animal communicators 
before this. Now I am totally convinced. What are the odds of a cat 
who has been thrown away being spayed and showing up at my house? Then 
having enough sense to tell two friends that she absolutely did not need to go 
to the vet's again?

My vet was against letting her come into heat if we 
could prevent it. He said the spaying would be less traumatic for her than 
coming into heat. 






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tad 
  Burnett 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Spayed twice - Marylyn
If she can't come in contact 
  with an intact maleyou can wait and see if she comes in 
  heatTadNina wrote:
  Marylyn,A 
neighbor of mine rescued a kitty off the street and asked me to have her 
spayed. Of course, she had very little money so I asked a local 
shelter if we could do it through them. Poor kitty was opened up only 
to find she had already been spayed. She was never the same after 
that. She was never really a friendly cat, but after that she wouldn't 
let anyone touch her except through a brush. Very sad. I had 
simply turned her over to this group, I'll never do that again. I 
always take any cats into the vet myself now. Who knows if she had 
rough treatment, or disrespectful treatment, when I wasn't there. Hard 
lesson learned.What were the vets looking for with the blood 
test? Reduced hormone levels? I have always been told, if you 
can't see the scar, there's no way to know if they've been spayed 
before. I would do anything not to put another cat through an 
experience like that poor kitty endured.NinaMarylyn wrote: 

  

  I took Dixie Louise to my vet to be spayed 
  and she tested positive for FeLV. There were lots of conversations 
  about how to handle the "situation" especially since I have Kitty, a FeLV 
  neg cat who has cancer. To get to the point, all the vets at the 
  clinic, who are very friendly to all the oddities I bring in, supported 
  having her spayed because it was a lot less stressful than going into heat 
  several times a year and certainly less stressful than a 
  pregnancy.
  Ihave friends who 
  are animal communicators andDixie kept telling them she had been to 
  the vet before. I had my vets run ablood test when they could 
  find no surgery scar. Seems like Dixie had been spayed by someone in 
  the past. Luckily, my AC friends were there for her or she would 
  have had surgery a second time. It is highly unlikely this 
  would ever happen again.

Marylyn: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty

[wendy]

Hi Marylyn,

Julie is 16.5 years old.  She's a Maine Coon kitty. 
So sweet, until she has to take a pill.  lol.  I guess
we'll both become used to it after time.  Thanks for
the info.  I added it to the manual and will keep
compounding in mind.  I tasted one of the pills and it
was completely tasteless, so you might want to look
into getting the kind that is tasteless.  I saw it on
the websites of either 1-800-petmeds, drs. foster 
smith, or entirely pets.  It was one of the last two I
believe.  

Thanks for the info.!
:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kitty has hyperthyroidism .  Know that the medicines
 can be compounded and 
 rubbed in the ear if the pills become too difficult
 (they are with her). 
 Personally I prefer the pills because you know
 exactly what the cat is 
 getting (except with Kitty who spits them out when I
 am not looking).  The 
 pills are very bitter so coating them with something
 may be helpful.  Keep 
 up on the bloodwork.  The amount she needs can
 change.  Once everything is 
 stabilized you may want to consider radiation
 treatment for the thyroid.  I 
 would with Kitty but it would be too traumatic for
 her and, in her current 
 position, I don't want to stress her any more than I
 have to.  Pull up some 
 articles on this condition but do not be scared. 
 How old is your cat?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:47 PM
 Subject: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty
 
 
  Hi guys,
 
  I took Julie to the vet this past Friday because
 she
  was having pain going to the bathroom the Sunday
  before and had a little blood around her genitals.
  I
  couldn't get her to the vet until Friday so I gave
 her
  Baytril I had left over from Cricket starting on
  Sunday, which wiped out whatever bacterial
 infection
  she might have had, and all her renal functions
 seemed
  to be back to normal by Friday.  But I took her in
  anyway just to be sure, and they ran a urinalysis
 and
  total blood/labwork on her.  Saturday the vet
 called
  me and said her results showed hypertension (she
 got a
  17 on her T4 results, normal is between .4 and
 5.2)
  and he prescribed 10 mg of Tapazole/Methimazole
 daily.
  I have to bring her in in two weeks for further
 blood
  work to see how the drugs are helping her thyroid.
  Does anyone here have any experience with
  hyperthyroidism in their kitty, and what did you
 do
  about it?  What does T4 measure?  Did your kitty
 pass
  away from the hyperthyroidism?  Did the drugs
 reverse
  the heart murmur?  What diet would be good for a
 kitty
  with hyperthyroidism?  Any advice is greatly
  appreciated!
 
  :)
  Wendy
 
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Marylyn: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty

[wendy]

Thanks Marylyn.  I will definitely check it out.  Do
you know the costs associated with the radiation and
how often it has to be done?

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This link has a lot of information re treatment
 options:
 
 http://www.fabcats.org/hyperthyroidism.html  
 
 Radiation is becoming available in a lot of areas.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
 have men who 
 
 will deal likewise with their fellow man.
 
  St. Francis
   - Original Message - 
   From: catatonya 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:20 PM
   Subject: Re: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric
 kitty
 
 
   Wendy,
 
   I have a little experience with it and will be
 glad to talk to you about it.  there is also an
 excellent yahoo group for people with hyperthyroid
 cats.  I would strongly recommend you join it for
 more info.
 
   Bonnie has been dealing with this as well.  I'm
 not sure if she joined the yahoo group for it or
 not.
 
   Both of my cats with hyper t lived a number of
 years, and died of related causes  (we think).  One
 had liver problems and one had a rare kidney
 infection.  I don't think either of their cases was
 what is normally expected with hyper-t though.
 
   I have to get through some more emails, but I'll
 try to email you more tomorrow.
 
   tonya
 
   wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I took Julie to the vet this past Friday because
 she
 was having pain going to the bathroom the Sunday
 before and had a little blood around her
 genitals. I
 couldn't get her to the vet until Friday so I
 gave her
 Baytril I had left over from Cricket starting on
 Sunday, which wiped out whatever bacterial
 infection
 she might have had, and all her renal functions
 seemed
 to be back to normal by Friday. But I took her
 in
 anyway just to be sure, and they ran a
 urinalysis and
 total blood/labwork on her. Saturday the vet
 called
 me and said her results showed hypertension (she
 got a
 17 on her T4 results, normal is between .4 and
 5.2)
 and he prescribed 10 mg of Tapazole/Methimazole
 daily.
 I have to bring her in in two weeks for further
 blood
 work to see how the drugs are helping her
 thyroid. 
 Does anyone here have any experience with
 hyperthyroidism in their kitty, and what did you
 do
 about it? What does T4 measure? Did your kitty
 pass
 away from the hyperthyroidism? Did the drugs
 reverse
 the heart murmur? What diet would be good for a
 kitty
 with hyperthyroidism? Any advice is greatly
 appreciated!
 
 :)
 Wendy
 

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Re: Marylyn: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty

[Marylyn]

I'm not sure of the cost.  The figure of $1000.00 was mentioned when I was 
considering it for Kitty.  It is a once in a life time event.  Had Kitty not 
developed cancer I would have had it done in a heart beat.  Even using the 
topical meds stresses her.  She was feral when she moved in with my parents 
then was forced to move in with me.  The cat has to stay at the clinic where 
the radiation is done for a few days but I didn't pursue it further.  Good 
luck.  If you do use it, please let me know how it turns out. I am sure I'll 
wind up with another cat with the problem eventually.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:49 AM
Subject: Marylyn: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty



Thanks Marylyn.  I will definitely check it out.  Do
you know the costs associated with the radiation and
how often it has to be done?

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This link has a lot of information re treatment
options:

http://www.fabcats.org/hyperthyroidism.html

Radiation is becoming available in a lot of areas.






 If
you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will
have men who

will deal likewise with their fellow man.

 St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric
kitty


  Wendy,

  I have a little experience with it and will be
glad to talk to you about it.  there is also an
excellent yahoo group for people with hyperthyroid
cats.  I would strongly recommend you join it for
more info.

  Bonnie has been dealing with this as well.  I'm
not sure if she joined the yahoo group for it or
not.

  Both of my cats with hyper t lived a number of
years, and died of related causes  (we think).  One
had liver problems and one had a rare kidney
infection.  I don't think either of their cases was
what is normally expected with hyper-t though.

  I have to get through some more emails, but I'll
try to email you more tomorrow.

  tonya

  wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,

I took Julie to the vet this past Friday because
she
was having pain going to the bathroom the Sunday
before and had a little blood around her
genitals. I
couldn't get her to the vet until Friday so I
gave her
Baytril I had left over from Cricket starting on
Sunday, which wiped out whatever bacterial
infection
she might have had, and all her renal functions
seemed
to be back to normal by Friday. But I took her
in
anyway just to be sure, and they ran a
urinalysis and
total blood/labwork on her. Saturday the vet
called
me and said her results showed hypertension (she
got a
17 on her T4 results, normal is between .4 and
5.2)
and he prescribed 10 mg of Tapazole/Methimazole
daily.
I have to bring her in in two weeks for further
blood
work to see how the drugs are helping her
thyroid.
Does anyone here have any experience with
hyperthyroidism in their kitty, and what did you
do
about it? What does T4 measure? Did your kitty
pass
away from the hyperthyroidism? Did the drugs
reverse
the heart murmur? What diet would be good for a
kitty
with hyperthyroidism? Any advice is greatly
appreciated!

:)
Wendy


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Thanks Marylyn!

[wendy]

Ooh-I need to get one of those Snuggle Safes for my
geriatric kitty, Julie.  She would LOVE that!  I
didn't know they made them, and I've always been
afraid to leave the house with a heating pad turned
on.  Thanks Marylyn!

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you tried a snuggle safe (hard plastic filled
 with a fluid).  Microwave 
 one, put it in a towel on whatever he sleeps on and
 it will stay warm for 
 about 8 hours.  It is reusable and available in pet
 stores and on the 
 internet.
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Starman
 
 
  Hi Wendy,
  Thanks for asking about Star.  I've got sleep
 deprivation from trying to 
  figure out a way to bring him in at night.  His
 lungs are still congested 
  and his eyes, still runny.  Sleeping outside in
 the cold cannot be good 
  for him.  He's got shelter, but he insists on
 sleeping on a shelf that 
  looks into my bedroom and he's exposed to the
 elements.  He cries and 
  cries to come in.  When I open the window, he
 tries to push his way past 
  me into the bedroom.  It's pitiful how much he
 wants to enjoy the comforts 
  of human living.  He's still hostile toward my
 cats, and visa versa for 
  the most part.  Two nights ago I tried to put him
 in a huge wire dog crate 
  next to the bed.  I had it covered, but he was so
 freaked out about being 
  confined that he peed his bed twice.  Nasty, nasty
 intact Tom, scared to 
  death, extremely pungent urine smell permeated
 every thing in the room. 
  Between crawling into the crate to try and comfort
 him, doing midnight 
  laundry duty, and his fearful crying, I got
 absolutely no sleep.  The next 
  night he decided that he'd rather not come in and
 spent the night on the 
  shelf again.  I put a heating pad under a blanket
 and except for a 
  pitifully crying for me to come out and join him
 every couple of hours, it 
  seemed to work out okay.  Last night the winds
 were so bad that it had him 
  scared.  Around 4am this morning I finally wrapped
 him in the blanket he 
  was sleeping on and hustled him into the bathroom.
  More crying, more 
  getting up to go in and comfort him.  Arrgghh!  I
 tell you I'm tired!  He 
  has an appointment to get neutered this Thursday,
 but I'm still concerned 
  about his lung congestion and the anesthesia.  The
 boy has got to get 
  those pom poms snipped before we can proceed with
 acclimation!  On the 
  plus side, he's really come to trust me, (don't
 ask me why or how!)
  Nina
 
  wendy wrote:
 
 Hey Nina,
 
 How is Starman doing?  Have things gotten any
 better?
 
 :)
 Wendy
 
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[wendy]

Marylyn,

Thank you for the advice.  I hadn't thought to ask
Stretch what she wants, and will do that tonight.  I
don't know how much I will understand from her (or her
me) without using a communicator, but maybe I will get
lucky.  She has been really good about taking the food
I have fed her twice now, although this morning she
wasn't as happy about it.  Maybe that is a good sign
though; maybe the food is making her feel better. 

You make a good point about treatments maybe not being
what an animal wants.  I have pondered this a lot
after I lost Cricket.  I often wonder how I would have
felt had I just taken him in to be pts, which was the
original plan.  Instead, after someone caringly
suggested that a feeding tube might help save him or
at least give him a little more time, which I thought
was a great idea, to have one inserted.  Part of why
he was going downhill so fast was that he wasn't
eating.  Also, I selfishly wasn't ready to let him go,
and I did want him to feel better and get some food on
his stomach; no one feels good when they are starving.
  I do and don't regret my decision to insert the
feeding tube.  I would probably do the same thing
given the same circumstances, yet I will never forget
the last time we looked at each other with him being
lucid, which was through the glass of the anesthesia
gas box.  He had that look like don't leave me and I
told him it would be ok, and it wasn't.  But you know,
had he come out of it and not died that night and
lived longer feeling better, I would have been elated
that he had gotten the feeding tube.  And that could
have been the sitution given a different cat or had
Cricket been in a little healthier place.  We can
never make all the right decisions, because we don't
know all the variables and can't see into the future. 
Living with those decisions that don't turn out the
way we would have liked can be hard.

Thank you for taking the time to write.  I will keep
everyone posted on Stretch.  Please keep us in your
prayers.
:)
Wendy





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Re: Marylyn

[Marylyn]

Just because you chose not to take certain steps does not mean you put the 
animal down.  Allow the cat/dog/elephant to tell you if and when she needs 
help leaving this world.  Put aside your own feelings and sit very quietly 
with your friend, talk to her as though she was a person and ask her help. 
Ask what she wants and needs (unfortunately they may not be the same thing). 
Allow her to guide you.  Know the difference between discomfort and true 
lasting pain.  And allow your nephew to be a part of this.  Do not exclude 
him because you want to save him the hurt.  You will prevent him from 
giving and receiving true love, the love an animal gives us unconditionally.


Have no regrets about Cricket.  We all question ourselves but act with true 
love for the critter entrusted to your care and not to make things easier 
for yourself.  I promise you, it would have been a lot easier for me to have 
done what the specialists wanted with Kitty but it would not have been an 
act of love.  Luckily, I have a set of vets that understand the value of 
life as well as quality of life (I wish a lot of physicians understood this) 
and we talked about what each of us would want in the situation.  Perhaps 
that is what you need to do, ask Stretch to help you understand what you 
would truly want.  Maybe that is her special job on earth.


My prayers are with you and I am asking my angels to help you, your nephew 
and your four legged friends who have been, are, and will be.


- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:52 AM
Subject: Marylyn



Marylyn,

Thank you for the advice.  I hadn't thought to ask
Stretch what she wants, and will do that tonight.  I
don't know how much I will understand from her (or her
me) without using a communicator, but maybe I will get
lucky.  She has been really good about taking the food
I have fed her twice now, although this morning she
wasn't as happy about it.  Maybe that is a good sign
though; maybe the food is making her feel better.

You make a good point about treatments maybe not being
what an animal wants.  I have pondered this a lot
after I lost Cricket.  I often wonder how I would have
felt had I just taken him in to be pts, which was the
original plan.  Instead, after someone caringly
suggested that a feeding tube might help save him or
at least give him a little more time, which I thought
was a great idea, to have one inserted.  Part of why
he was going downhill so fast was that he wasn't
eating.  Also, I selfishly wasn't ready to let him go,
and I did want him to feel better and get some food on
his stomach; no one feels good when they are starving.
 I do and don't regret my decision to insert the
feeding tube.  I would probably do the same thing
given the same circumstances, yet I will never forget
the last time we looked at each other with him being
lucid, which was through the glass of the anesthesia
gas box.  He had that look like don't leave me and I
told him it would be ok, and it wasn't.  But you know,
had he come out of it and not died that night and
lived longer feeling better, I would have been elated
that he had gotten the feeding tube.  And that could
have been the sitution given a different cat or had
Cricket been in a little healthier place.  We can
never make all the right decisions, because we don't
know all the variables and can't see into the future.
Living with those decisions that don't turn out the
way we would have liked can be hard.

Thank you for taking the time to write.  I will keep
everyone posted on Stretch.  Please keep us in your
prayers.
:)
Wendy





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