Re: [Felvtalk] Transfer Factor - Felvtalk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10
Oops - Transfer Factor. I have some, but have only used it occasionally and don't know much. But I appreciate the reminder, maybe I'll try it with some kitties now. Gloria On May 12, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: Sorry, correction.....I meant Transfer Factor to stimulate the immune system. Thanks Stacy and Spanky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Donate to FuRR! Help 20 cats in Heber Springs! http://teamfurr.chipin.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] About Transfer Factor
Hi, I have been receiving mailings for the past few weeks. I have a Felv + 13 year old black cat named Benny. It is hard even writing that he is a positive, as I have been in denial since his diagnosis many years ago. This past Christmas we almost lost him, he lost a lot of weight, he stopped eating, and he was totally lethargic, not wanting anything to do with us or being around anyone. He normally is at the back door every day looking through the glass, but he didn't want anything to do with that either. I took him to the vet on Christmas Eve and they did blood work. I waited there in the office for the results, and the vet came in and basically told me that Benny had days to livehis blood counts were really low (along with his platelets) She recommended euthanizing him, but I couldn't do that. He is my best friend, and I wanted to at least give him a fighting chance. 2 weeks later, he is still here, still not eating on his own much (I am syringing a/d) and still pretty lethargic. But, he does appear to have a bit more energy these past few days, and he is eating more on his own. (sorry this is so long, just wanted to introduce our situation) I started giving Benny Transfer Factor Classic a month ago when all this started, and now we are onto Transfer Factor Plus (Along with hi-vites, omega-3's, probiotics, immunoreglan injections, interferon and a broad spectrum antibiotic) I have heard a lot of great things about Transfer Factor (including the post from today's digest from Linda Gate and was wondering what she means by 'it works'. Has anyone had a positive kitty pull through a sickness like this? I am praying everyday that he will start taking in enough calories to survive without me assist feeding. Oh, another question I have is about an e tubeI know there is a yahoo group I should probably post this question on, but thought I would give it a shot here.the vet says with Benny's low blood and platelet count, they wouldn't want to put him under the anesthetic for an etube is it possible those counts could change for the better in time to allow for this procedure (if he doesn't start eating on his own)? Thanks for all your support. April (mommy to beloved Benny) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 1:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: immune strenghthener this looks good! (linda gata) 2. Re: immune strenghthener this looks good! (Sue & Frank Koren) 3. Re: General seems to have a fever (dlg...@windstream.net) 4. Re: General seems to have a fever (dlg...@windstream.net) 5. Re: General ~ tysons canned chicken breast nutrition facts (dlg...@windstream.net) 6. Update on Tommy (Lisa Borden) 7. Re: Update on Tommy (Sue & Frank Koren) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:22:34 -0800 (PST) From: linda gata Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] immune strenghthener this looks good! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <848444.73287...@web63704.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Try transfer factor plus , it works. --- On Tue, 1/6/09, amanda wrote: From: amanda Subject: [Felvtalk] immune strenghthener this looks good! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:08 PM Hi all, has anyone used this? You can get it from The only natural pet store , here http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Only-Natural-Pet-Immune-Strengthener/ 999032.aspx#ReviewHeader I have just received a bottle of capsules and am going to try it for my FeLV kitty. It has great reviews! I'll update on my kitty from time to time to tell you if it helps him :) hugs Amanda and Tora , Nora and Tabby ( Angel Silver chan) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:44:06 -0500 From: "Sue & Frank Koren" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] immune strenghthener this looks good! To: Message-ID: <16cbe6067a314992b9f12bffd5300...@franksue05> Content-T
Re: Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor?
I have been feeding Mandy PetGuard wet food and Greenies treats. For dry, she gets Nutro. She's thriving on this--you would never know that she is leukemia positive. Her eyesight has not deteriorated since I have had her. She was totally deaf when I got her but that doesn't seem to bother her at all. - Original Message - From: Kenzie Kanne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:18 AM Subject: Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor? Hi- I was wondering what kind of diet everyone uses for their FELV positive cats and kittens. I am currently feeding mine Science Diet Kitten Chow and also Friskies canned in a.m. and pm. These ladies have their habits. I have tried switching their dry food and they began vomiting and quit eating so we continued w/ it. I didn't know if their was a better dry or canned I should be feeding them or if what they are eating is okay. I don't want to distress them and they do like their soft food twice a day. Also, I have the Transfer Factor?? Can't remember if that is how it is said..the powder at my house and I have been using Mega C Plus everyday for 3 months now...has anyone used Mega C Plus before? Has it worked for you? So do I continue w/ the Mega C plus only or do I keep using it and use the Transfer Factor too or should I just used the Transfer Factor. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks everyone! Kenzie Kanne ARC Volunteer (712)830-9518 www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarroll http://animalrescue-carroll.tripod.com/index.html -- Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect now!
RE: Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor?
If they like Science Diet Kitten, they will love Wellness kitten-- trust me. I have fed both b/c Wellness is expensive. That is what I give my foster kittens who come to me sick and/or malnourished to really get them going and put on weight. Now that I have two that are no longer sick and have totally packed on the pounds (completely healthy now), I've been feeding those two S/D kitten wet to give myself a financial break (plus I was given a free pack of it, so I thought I'd put it to use). My 2 older cats eat wet Wellness adult. All cats love it. It's so good for them. You can tell the difference in quality and smell yourself if you open a can of S/D kitten and a can of Wellness kitten and compare them visually and by smelling-- the difference is noticeable. The Wellness is clearly all meat (no grains) and with very little "gravy"- yet cats still love it. It's not that S/D kitten wet is bad, it's just "not as good" as Wellness or any one of the other premium, GRAIN-FREE brands. If/when you are transitioning them to a new wet food, you should always mix the old food with new. There are specific protocols for doing this that are probably somewhere in the "archives"-- some people on this site know the measurements for old food to new food when switching, but I don't. I just do it loosely by starting with half and half (half old brand, half new) and then slowly decreasing the amount of old to new, until you are feeding all new. This is easier on their stomachs. Also, Eagle Pack Holistic has a powder additive that you add to their food specifically for assisting with the transitioning to new, premium, holistic brand food. I haven't tried it, but it's supposed to help. I use the additive for cats prone to stomach upset and diarrhea also made by Eagle Pack Holistic and I think it's just probiotics. It seems to help. Caroline > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor?> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:39:17 -0600> > Hi Kenzie,> > The general opinion around here is that there is better quality canned> food, though you also don't want to buy them food they won't eat. In> other> words, eating low quality food is better than not eating at all. I'm> feeding Wellness> canned and dry to my little FeLV+ girl, and she loves it and does really> well on it.> > <http://www.omhpet.com/wellness/>> > I've used Mega C and Transfer Factor at the same time after talking to> Ember's homeopathic vet about it, and there were never problems. I think> that the Mega C is good for them; I'm just not sure that I believe it> can "cure" > FeLV+ cats, as Mega C literature hints. > > I seem to recall reading that when switching foods, it's best to have a> mix> of the two foods for a few days and gradually phase in the new food.> There's> probably good info on the web about switching from one food to another.> I> think the Wellness web site might even have this info.> > Lance> > On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:18:39 -0600, "Kenzie Kanne"> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:> > Hi-> > I was wondering what kind of diet everyone uses for their FELV positive> > cats and kittens. I am currently feeding mine Science Diet Kitten Chow> > and also Friskies canned in a.m. and pm. These ladies have their habits.> > I have tried switching their dry food and they began vomiting and quit> > eating so we continued w/ it. I didn't know if their was a better dry or> > canned I should be feeding them or if what they are eating is okay. I> > don't want to distress them and they do like their soft food twice a day.> > > > Also, I have the Transfer Factor?? Can't remember if that is how it is> > said..the powder at my house and I have been using Mega C Plus everyday> > for 3 months now...has anyone used Mega C Plus before? Has it worked for> > you? So do I continue w/ the Mega C plus only or do I keep using it and> > use the Transfer Factor too or should I just used the Transfer Factor. > > Any advice is appreciated. Thanks everyone!Kenzie KanneARC Volunteer> > (712)830-9518www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarrollhttp://animalrescue-carroll.tripod.com/index.html > > _> > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> > http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007> -- > Lance Linimon> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > _ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline
Re: Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor?
Hi Kenzie, The general opinion around here is that there is better quality canned food, though you also don't want to buy them food they won't eat. In other words, eating low quality food is better than not eating at all. I'm feeding Wellness canned and dry to my little FeLV+ girl, and she loves it and does really well on it. <http://www.omhpet.com/wellness/> I've used Mega C and Transfer Factor at the same time after talking to Ember's homeopathic vet about it, and there were never problems. I think that the Mega C is good for them; I'm just not sure that I believe it can "cure" FeLV+ cats, as Mega C literature hints. I seem to recall reading that when switching foods, it's best to have a mix of the two foods for a few days and gradually phase in the new food. There's probably good info on the web about switching from one food to another. I think the Wellness web site might even have this info. Lance On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:18:39 -0600, "Kenzie Kanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi- > I was wondering what kind of diet everyone uses for their FELV positive > cats and kittens. I am currently feeding mine Science Diet Kitten Chow > and also Friskies canned in a.m. and pm. These ladies have their habits. > I have tried switching their dry food and they began vomiting and quit > eating so we continued w/ it. I didn't know if their was a better dry or > canned I should be feeding them or if what they are eating is okay. I > don't want to distress them and they do like their soft food twice a day. > > Also, I have the Transfer Factor?? Can't remember if that is how it is > said..the powder at my house and I have been using Mega C Plus everyday > for 3 months now...has anyone used Mega C Plus before? Has it worked for > you? So do I continue w/ the Mega C plus only or do I keep using it and > use the Transfer Factor too or should I just used the Transfer Factor. > Any advice is appreciated. Thanks everyone!Kenzie KanneARC Volunteer > (712)830-9518www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarrollhttp://animalrescue-carroll.tripod.com/index.html > > _ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor?
Hi Kenzie Here is what I use for Junior. I sometimes I run out, but for the most part he gets: Wellness Transfer Factor 1 cap AM Manapol approx 1/2 teapAM l lysine 1 capAM and PM if he URI or runny eyes Colostrum PM Probiotics as needed for possible diarrhea when on antibiotics. I also gave him immunoregulin monthly subcutaneous but he has not received this for a couple months If you are using 4life Transfer Factor Then you could probably skip the Manopol as 4life contains mannans He has passed his 1 year mark. sally On Dec 5, 2007 9:18 AM, Kenzie Kanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi- > I was wondering what kind of diet everyone uses for their FELV positive > cats and kittens. I am currently feeding mine Science Diet Kitten Chow and > also Friskies canned in a.m. and pm. These ladies have their habits. I > have tried switching their dry food and they began vomiting and quit eating > so we continued w/ it. I didn't know if their was a better dry or canned I > should be feeding them or if what they are eating is okay. I don't want to > distress them and they do like their soft food twice a day. > > Also, I have the Transfer Factor?? Can't remember if that is how it is > said..the powder at my house and I have been using Mega C Plus everyday for > 3 months now...has anyone used Mega C Plus before? Has it worked for you? > So do I continue w/ the Mega C plus only or do I keep using it and use the > Transfer Factor too or should I just used the Transfer Factor. Any advice > is appreciated. Thanks everyone! > > *Kenzie Kanne <http://www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarroll>* > *ARC Volunteer <http://www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarroll> * > *(712)830-9518 <http://www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarroll>* > www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarroll > http://animalrescue-carroll.tripod.com/index.html > ** > ** > > > > > > -- > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect > now!<http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007> > -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor?
Hi- I was wondering what kind of diet everyone uses for their FELV positive cats and kittens. I am currently feeding mine Science Diet Kitten Chow and also Friskies canned in a.m. and pm. These ladies have their habits. I have tried switching their dry food and they began vomiting and quit eating so we continued w/ it. I didn't know if their was a better dry or canned I should be feeding them or if what they are eating is okay. I don't want to distress them and they do like their soft food twice a day. Also, I have the Transfer Factor?? Can't remember if that is how it is said..the powder at my house and I have been using Mega C Plus everyday for 3 months now...has anyone used Mega C Plus before? Has it worked for you? So do I continue w/ the Mega C plus only or do I keep using it and use the Transfer Factor too or should I just used the Transfer Factor. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks everyone!Kenzie KanneARC Volunteer (712)830-9518www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarrollhttp://animalrescue-carroll.tripod.com/index.html _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007
Re: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question
Susan, I have worked with many positive FELV cats and use Transfer Factor Plus on them all. I purchased a dealership for the product, and you can order directly from the website at my dealer cost. I usually order by telephone from the manufacturer. You can do the same by calling 1-888-454-3374. My dealer number is 6109801. They are wonderful about getting to product to you promptly. If you would like to have me set you up as a customer, I can do so, or you can order directly using my dealer number. I have an informational web site on Transfer Factor. It may answer many of your questions. The address for the site is: http://www.powerbod.com/us/karengriffith You can also order from the site. Personally I like to call the toll free number and talk to a human. You can just tell them my Distributor ID - 6109801, use your credit card, and give them your mailing address. If you have any questions, Please feel free to give me a call. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Susan Ang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question Hey Everyone, Thank you so much for the support and kind messages. Autumn has finally recovered and is no longer in pain. Her vets keep pushing me to give her vaccinations, but shortly after she has them she gets sick! I don't think they are using dead vaccines, which is recommended for FELV+. I don't understand why most vets don't do more to educate themselves about this disease. Hopefully the Feline Omega Interferon becomes FDA approved and be readily available. Where do most people get their Transfer Factor Plus? We are looking for a specialist for Autumn, but they are hard to find in our area. Thank you again. She is a healthy, happy 15 week old. Cute as a button and highly rambunctious! She used to sleep on the floor, but now she sleeps in the bed curled up against my neck and when she sleeps deeply her little tongue sticks out. So cute! ~Susan A.
Transfer Factor
Susan, I have worked with many positive FELV cats and use Transfer Factor Plus on them all. I purchased a dealership for the product, and you can order directly from the website at my dealer cost. I usually order by telephone from the manufacturer. You can do the same by calling 1-888-454-3374. My dealer number is 6109801. They are wonderful about getting to product to you promptly. If you would like to have me set you up as a customer, I can do so, or you can order directly using my dealer number. I have an informational web site on Transfer Factor. It may answer many of your questions. The address for the site is: http://www.powerbod.com/us/karengriffith You can also order from the site. Personally I like to call the toll free number and talk to a human. You can just tell them my Distributor ID - 6109801, use your credit card, and give them your mailing address. If you have any questions, Please feel free to give me a call. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Susan Ang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question Hey Everyone, Thank you so much for the support and kind messages. Autumn has finally recovered and is no longer in pain. Her vets keep pushing me to give her vaccinations, but shortly after she has them she gets sick! I don't think they are using dead vaccines, which is recommended for FELV+. I don't understand why most vets don't do more to educate themselves about this disease. Hopefully the Feline Omega Interferon becomes FDA approved and be readily available. Where do most people get their Transfer Factor Plus? We are looking for a specialist for Autumn, but they are hard to find in our area. Thank you again. She is a healthy, happy 15 week old. Cute as a button and highly rambunctious! She used to sleep on the floor, but now she sleeps in the bed curled up against my neck and when she sleeps deeply her little tongue sticks out. So cute! ~Susan A.
Transfer Factor -- http://www.betterherbs.com/
I order from http://www.betterherbs.com/ Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I get mine thru my holistic vet which is no help to you. However, you can do a Google search. Re: vaccinations. There is no way I would ever consider vaccinating a cat with a compromised immune system and I have regular as well as holistic vets who support this decision. If she is an indoor cat you have very little to be concerned with. I would take the odds and just ignore the vaccinations. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Ang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question Hey Everyone, Thank you so much for the support and kind messages. Autumn has finally recovered and is no longer in pain. Her vets keep pushing me to give her vaccinations, but shortly after she has them she gets sick! I don't think they are using dead vaccines, which is recommended for FELV+. I don't understand why most vets don't do more to educate themselves about this disease. Hopefully the Feline Omega Interferon becomes FDA approved and be readily available. Where do most people get their Transfer Factor Plus? We are looking for a specialist for Autumn, but they are hard to find in our area. Thank you again. She is a healthy, happy 15 week old. Cute as a button and highly rambunctious! She used to sleep on the floor, but now she sleeps in the bed curled up against my neck and when she sleeps deeply her little tongue sticks out. So cute! ~Susan A.
Re: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question
I get mine thru my holistic vet which is no help to you. However, you can do a Google search. Re: vaccinations. There is no way I would ever consider vaccinating a cat with a compromised immune system and I have regular as well as holistic vets who support this decision. If she is an indoor cat you have very little to be concerned with. I would take the odds and just ignore the vaccinations. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Ang To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question Hey Everyone, Thank you so much for the support and kind messages. Autumn has finally recovered and is no longer in pain. Her vets keep pushing me to give her vaccinations, but shortly after she has them she gets sick! I don't think they are using dead vaccines, which is recommended for FELV+. I don't understand why most vets don't do more to educate themselves about this disease. Hopefully the Feline Omega Interferon becomes FDA approved and be readily available. Where do most people get their Transfer Factor Plus? We are looking for a specialist for Autumn, but they are hard to find in our area. Thank you again. She is a healthy, happy 15 week old. Cute as a button and highly rambunctious! She used to sleep on the floor, but now she sleeps in the bed curled up against my neck and when she sleeps deeply her little tongue sticks out. So cute! ~Susan A.
Autumn - Update amd Transfer Factor Question
Hey Everyone, Thank you so much for the support and kind messages. Autumn has finally recovered and is no longer in pain. Her vets keep pushing me to give her vaccinations, but shortly after she has them she gets sick! I don't think they are using dead vaccines, which is recommended for FELV+. I don't understand why most vets don't do more to educate themselves about this disease. Hopefully the Feline Omega Interferon becomes FDA approved and be readily available. Where do most people get their Transfer Factor Plus? We are looking for a specialist for Autumn, but they are hard to find in our area. Thank you again. She is a healthy, happy 15 week old. Cute as a button and highly rambunctious! She used to sleep on the floor, but now she sleeps in the bed curled up against my neck and when she sleeps deeply her little tongue sticks out. So cute! ~Susan A.
Re: Transfer Factor
Hi Jane I still have the empty bottle of the Transfer Factor Plus here in addition to the Transfer Factors it also contains Mannans from ALoe Vera leaf, Maitiake and Shitake mushroom extracts. I may go back to it when I run out of the current supply. Sally On 7/23/07, Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the information Laurie and Sally. I thought I would try it when the Maitake DMG runs out. My vet thought using both was redundant. Jane On Jul 23, 2007, at 8:52 PM, Sally Davis wrote: > Hi Jane > > I use the human form of Transfer Factor. Originally I got 4 life > Transfer Factor Plus formula as it has more immune boosters in it. I > wanted to try the Manopol (acemannan powder form). I purchased a > different brand of Transfer Factor (Wellness)from the company that > sold the Manopol. So far so good. I think the immune boostershelp > stabilize a symptomatic cat. Every cat is different of course. Lance > also has used the Transfer Factor Plus for his cat. I mix it in wet > food. > > Sally > > -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
Re: Transfer Factor
Thanks for the information Laurie and Sally. I thought I would try it when the Maitake DMG runs out. My vet thought using both was redundant. Jane On Jul 23, 2007, at 8:52 PM, Sally Davis wrote: Hi Jane I use the human form of Transfer Factor. Originally I got 4 life Transfer Factor Plus formula as it has more immune boosters in it. I wanted to try the Manopol (acemannan powder form). I purchased a different brand of Transfer Factor (Wellness)from the company that sold the Manopol. So far so good. I think the immune boosters help stabilize a symptomatic cat. Every cat is different of course. Lance also has used the Transfer Factor Plus for his cat. I mix it in wet food. Sally
Re: Transfer Factor
Hi Jane I use the human form of Transfer Factor. Originally I got 4 life Transfer Factor Plus formula as it has more immune boosters in it. I wanted to try the Manopol (acemannan powder form). I purchased a different brand of Transfer Factor (Wellness)from the company that sold the Manopol. So far so good. I think the immune boosters help stabilize a symptomatic cat. Every cat is different of course. Lance also has used the Transfer Factor Plus for his cat. I mix it in wet food. Sally
Re: Transfer Factor
Yes someone said they use human. We use feline and it comes with a scoop. My vet looked at ingredients and said fine to use. It's an immune booster and ok to use with alpha interferon. We sprinkle on top of small amont of canned food. I am sure a cat would eat it alone. It is very palatable. It is kept in fridge. L - Original Message - From: "Jane Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:49 AM Subject: Transfer Factor I cannot find the post, but I thought someone on the list said that they used the human Transfer Factor for their cat, rather than the feline formula. Is it a powder that is mixed into wet food? If the human grade is used, what quantity? Thanks Jane
Transfer Factor
I cannot find the post, but I thought someone on the list said that they used the human Transfer Factor for their cat, rather than the feline formula. Is it a powder that is mixed into wet food? If the human grade is used, what quantity? Thanks Jane
Re: Transfer Factor ~ how to order it
Susan, I buy feline transfer factor from 4Life. www.4life.com or 888-454-3374 I couldn't figure out how to order from the website so called the number. You have to set up an account ~ it's no big deal and makes re-ordering a breeze. I think they normally sell through distributors. Laurie - Original Message - From: "Susan Dubose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update ok, I know it has been posted before, but where do you get the tansfer factor? Sorry, too much going on to remember. :( Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws." Trajan Tennent
Re: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)
My girlfriend's regular doctor? I guess I meant not the vet! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 9, 2007, at 10:17 PM, Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote: My girlfriend had to have her colon removed and her regular doctor told her to take colostrum. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 8, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Marylyn wrote: For what it matters my alternative vet swears by the stuff. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?) I have a friend that swears Transfer Factor (an immune regulator) saved the life of a cat of hers with panleuk. I've used it in the past too. Lance on the list thinks it helps his Ember. Anyway, it couldn't hurt to try it. Most of my guys like the flavor, I mix it with baby food. Here's my original post about it: > Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks. The idea is to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. Here's a link to the manufacture info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com> Susan Hoffman wrote: From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk. But you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.
Re: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)
My girlfriend had to have her colon removed and her regular doctor told her to take colostrum. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 8, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Marylyn wrote: For what it matters my alternative vet swears by the stuff. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?) I have a friend that swears Transfer Factor (an immune regulator) saved the life of a cat of hers with panleuk. I've used it in the past too. Lance on the list thinks it helps his Ember. Anyway, it couldn't hurt to try it. Most of my guys like the flavor, I mix it with baby food. Here's my original post about it: > Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks. The idea is to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. Here's a link to the manufacture info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com> Susan Hoffman wrote: From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk. But you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.
Re: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)
For what it matters my alternative vet swears by the stuff. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?) I have a friend that swears Transfer Factor (an immune regulator) saved the life of a cat of hers with panleuk. I've used it in the past too. Lance on the list thinks it helps his Ember. Anyway, it couldn't hurt to try it. Most of my guys like the flavor, I mix it with baby food. Here's my original post about it: > Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks. The idea is to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. Here's a link to the manufacture info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com> Susan Hoffman wrote: From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk. But you can rule it in or out without a necropsy.
Kelley - Transfer Factor (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)
I have a friend that swears Transfer Factor (an immune regulator) saved the life of a cat of hers with panleuk. I've used it in the past too. Lance on the list thinks it helps his Ember. Anyway, it couldn't hurt to try it. Most of my guys like the flavor, I mix it with baby food. Here's my original post about it: > Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks. The idea is to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. Here's a link to the manufacture info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com <http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com/TransferFactor/basic.htm> Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com> Susan Hoffman wrote: From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk. But you can rule it in or out without a necropsy. *//*
Question on Transfer Factor capsules
I'm not sure what size of a pill a cat should swallow, and am wondering if the Transfer Factor capsules are too big for cats. I tried giving Tomi the powder from the capsule in baby food, but he's decided he doesn't like that. He will eat Mega C Plus in baby food though. The only other option would be syringing it, but i'm already giving him some Pet Tinic and Interferon in syringes. It would be great if he could swallow the pill, but i'm scared to try in case it's too big. Just as an update on Tomi, it has been over two weeks since his transfusion, and his red blood count is going up, but very slowly. It was 13 after the transfusion, 17 a week later, and 19 a week after that. The vet was hoping for bigger gains, but at least its going up, not down. He is acting more like his normal self, which is good, and i've got him on Mega C Plus, Transfer Factor, Pet Tinic, Doxycycline and Interferon now. We just stopped giving him Prednisone yesterday. Cassandra
Re: nina/transfer factor
LJ, Absolutely, you can use the TF with other immune support stuff. They can't overdose from it, there's nothing in it that would interact adversely with anything else. I don't use the full portion that they recommend, I used to just sprinkle it on their food. If they are having any trouble, showing any symptoms, I'll up the amount. They have different formulas for different things, one for maintence, one for when their under stress. Thanks for the pat on the back about Starman. He is definitely a character! He spent the night in the bathroom again. This morning when he woke me up with his cries, I grabbed the quilt and a pillow off the bed and stumbled my way in there. You should have seen him! He was like a kitten, scooting under and over the quilt, kneading, purring and head bumping me. He really has his sweet side. The way he reacted to that blanket and my lying on the bathroom floor made me wonder if there was a human, (maybe a child), in his life that was kind to him and shared a bed with him once upon a time. Nina l.j. crabtree wrote: Nina... i follow with awe and admiration in your day to day with that Starman!!! He is an awesome boy, and his "mom" is AMAZINGG! is it ok to use the transfer factor with other stuff ( considering interferon and have started vit c) y'all are da bomb bonks to all! LJ
Re: nina/transfer factor
Nina... i follow with awe and admiration in your day to day with that Starman!!! He is an awesome boy, and his "mom" is AMAZINGG! is it ok to use the transfer factor with other stuff ( considering interferon and have started vit c) y'all are da bomb bonks to all! LJ
Transfer Factor for immune support - LJ
LJ, No one has mentioned it lately, but some folks also give Transfer Factor to boost immune support. Many people swear by it, I'm torn myself. I don't know if it helps, but I'm convinced it doesn't hurt and it doesn't taste bad either, some of my kids like the taste. It has colostrum, (which Kerry mentions adding separately, I do too), and electrolytes. Here's some info: Here's a link to info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com/TransferFactor/basic.htm Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. There's a website link below, you might want to check out, but they don't have their order page encrypted, so it's safer to order over the phone. The wholesale price on the products from the most recent list I have is: Transfer Factor Classic -- 90 caps/$37.95 Transfer Factor Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$39.95 TF Plus Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$54.95 TF Feline Complete -- 60 - 2 grm. servings/$35.95 Animal Stress Pack -- 7 - 2 oz.packets/$48.95 www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com> l.j. crabtree wrote: MUWAHHH!!! from minnie!!! thanks ladies for this wonderful info!!! i will see what i can do independently and also check with the vet.. would giving vit c interfere with this? has anyone ever used goldenseal extract ( in glycerine) or is it sorta sketchy for cat kids with that whole herbal thing going on that doesn't seem to mesh with them)? i want minnie to be flying around the room with her wonderwoman suit on!!! actually to be more serious, i just want to do all i can to boost her immunity... is there anything that helps to boost their t-cells? i am a worrisome goober ( from va...we grow 'em here to tonya!! hehehe) much love and respect... LJ
Re: ??? about Transfer Factor
Hi Patti, I've been away from the computer and my inbox is loaded to the brim, but I saw your post and thought I'd answer while I have a minute. I've got the feline maintenance TF, but I haven't used it much because my guys don't appreciate the flavor they added to it and won't eat their food when I mix it in. The TF I have used is the Stress formula, (for animals, they do like the taste of it). I use it when someone is showing symptoms. I can't tell you if it's helped, or not. When my babies are sick I tend to throw the kitchen sink at them, so I never know what it was that actually worked. The Stress formula has lots of good stuff in it like electrolytes and some sort of colostrum derivative, so I always figure it can't hurt. Sally asked the very question about the differences between the animal and human formulas to a representative and didn't get back a satisfactory answer. I think they just told her to use the animal formula and follow the directions on the package. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading up on Transfer Factor, and I am a little confused right now. I just read that many vets actually suggest using the "Human" product on pets, but I see it is available specifically for dogs, acts and horses also. For those of you that are using it for your feline fur-kids, which formula are you using?? Also, anyone use it for their K-9 Kids?? Thanks in advance, Patti
??? about Transfer Factor
I've been reading up on Transfer Factor, and I am a little confused right now. I just read that many vets actually suggest using the "Human" product on pets, but I see it is available specifically for dogs, acts and horses also. For those of you that are using it for your feline fur-kids, which formula are you using?? Also, anyone use it for their K-9 Kids?? Thanks in advance, Patti
Re: transfer factor
I would just say, briefly, - processed food loses vitamins; also illnesses that are helped by specific nutrients. Gloria On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm gonna ask anyway..Cats in the wild eat an all meat diet without vitamin supplements...Why do our domesticated kitties need them?
Re: Re:WAS transfer factor NOW Supplements Cats Need
Cornell is a MUCH better vet school, and has a MUCH bigger feline program than most others. Try Cornell next time. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Sheila, I would guess because in the wild they would be eating birds, frogs, snakes, and other small mammals, not chicken, beef, lamb, and other things that are in the diets we feed them. Different meats have different proteins and vitamins. A cat has some very delicate requirements and can get very sick if they aren't met. Taurine is a biggy, it is usually found in organ meats, atleast in chickens (hearts are a good source and also hard to come by), so taurine would need to be supplemented. It's a tricky thing and that's why I've decided to go raw instead of cooked. I couldn't find ANY source that told me what supplements exactly cats would need in a well balanced cook food.I even had my vet consult with UC Davis Veterinary school, which by the way I'm very dissappointed in. She emailed them at the email supplied on their website for consulting and after almost two weeks still hadn't heard anything, so she printed everything out and mailed it to them. After about another week they finally called and asked some more questions, they charge $130.00 dollars for a consult and if my cat was having serious problems would have been NO help. I called her and she said they hadn't charged her yet so I told her to forget it, and started researching raw. I don't have faith in them, their customer service is p*ss poor and they weren't getting any of my money, I'd rather make a donation to the rescue the vet I've been corresponding with works with. She feeds her cats and her fosters raw! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005
Re:WAS transfer factor NOW Supplements Cats Need
Sheila, I would guess because in the wild they would be eating birds, frogs, snakes, and other small mammals, not chicken, beef, lamb, and other things that are in the diets we feed them. Different meats have different proteins and vitamins. A cat has some very delicate requirements and can get very sick if they aren't met. Taurine is a biggy, it is usually found in organ meats, atleast in chickens (hearts are a good source and also hard to come by), so taurine would need to be supplemented. It's a tricky thing and that's why I've decided to go raw instead of cooked. I couldn't find ANY source that told me what supplements exactly cats would need in a well balanced cook food. I even had my vet consult with UC Davis Veterinary school, which by the way I'm very dissappointed in. She emailed them at the email supplied on their website for consulting and after almost two weeks still hadn't heard anything, so she printed everything out and mailed it to them. After about another week they finally called and asked some more questions, they charge $130.00 dollars for a consult and if my cat was having serious problems would have been NO help. I called her and she said they hadn't charged her yet so I told her to forget it, and started researching raw. I don't have faith in them, their customer service is p*ss poor and they weren't getting any of my money, I'd rather make a donation to the rescue the vet I've been corresponding with works with. She feeds her cats and her fosters raw! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: transfer factor
Because the domesticated livestock we breed and eat has been so drastically changed from "natural" meat to something geared towards human health, that it is no longer good for other species of animals that require high fat contents, and other such things we humans try to avoid. Also, since we are not feeding WHOLE animals, we lose much of the feline health benefits of layers of fat, guts, eyeballs, bones, cartilage, and so forth. In addition, domestic cats are not wild animals, and because of humans tinkering with THEM, they no longer require the same diets as their wild cousins, and often have special dietary needs. ALL of this because we humans have to tinker with nature, of course. Feral colonies of domestic cats "wild housecats" rarely survive long, or live healthy lives, unless they are being fed cat food by a feral caregiver human. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm gonna ask anyway..Cats in the wild eat an all meat diet without vitamin supplements...Why do our domesticated kitties need them? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
Re: transfer factor
An all meat diet is ideal, actually. You would need to be careful to balance the nutrients if making it home made, there are cat vitamin supplements made just for this. Cats don't require any form of grains at all. I feed Innova EVO dry cat food. It's one of the few all meat commercially prepared dry cat foods out there. I don't have time, or math skills to make and cook home made cat food, and my cats refuse to eat raw. They do splendidly on the Innova EVO. They do get the occasional bit of catnip or cat grass, that's as close to grains as they get. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~what is wrong with grains? An all meat diet is NOT good either. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
Re: transfer factor
I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm gonna ask anyway..Cats in the wild eat an all meat diet without vitamin supplements...Why do our domesticated kitties need them?
Re: transfer factor
Cats cannot process grains properly and they don't need them. An all meat diet is fine as long as the correct supplements are added, I've been researching this for a while and cooresponding with a vet that feeds her cats raw. This is what made me finally decide to try it. My poor Joey has IBD and nothing I try seems to completely resolve it although I will tell you he threw up 10 minutes after eating dry food which he hasn't eaten for a long time. Cats with IBD should not eat dry food. I guess the proof will be how my guys feel and look once I have been feeding raw for a while. I get my grinder tomorrow if it's on time so we'll see in about 4 to 6 weeks after they have been completely switched :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: transfer factor
Cat's digestive systems are not geared toward processing grains, or vegetables, (their intestines are much shorter in comparison to humans and the time food spends in the gut is quicker). Some cats don't have a problem with either of them though. I'm pretty sure MC feeds her kitties an all veggie diet and she's had good results. Kitties who have IBD respond better to a species appropriate diet. Muscle meat, bone, liver and heart ground raw with vita sups is what worked to turn Gypsy's problems around. Nina Sue Feldbusch wrote: what is wrong with grains? An all meat diet is NOT good either. From: Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: transfer factor Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:26:08 -0700 Second the dry food post, dry food is absolutely not good for cats, it contains grains that cats cannot process. There is almost NO dry food that is good for cats. If it has grains of any kind in the ingredients I don't care what the manufacture says it isn't good for cats, and especially cats with IBD. As sson as I took Joey off of the dry he got better, still had runs off and on, but alot more off than on, and once I started cooking for them and took him almost off the Fancy Feast he got even better. Yesterday he got into the dry I still haven't weaned some hard core guys off of and threw up 10 minutes later, he was punky all day. I'm going to switch to raw feeding as soon as I get my grinder :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: transfer factor
what is wrong with grains? An all meat diet is NOT good either. From: Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: transfer factor Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:26:08 -0700 Second the dry food post, dry food is absolutely not good for cats, it contains grains that cats cannot process. There is almost NO dry food that is good for cats. If it has grains of any kind in the ingredients I don't care what the manufacture says it isn't good for cats, and especially cats with IBD. As sson as I took Joey off of the dry he got better, still had runs off and on, but alot more off than on, and once I started cooking for them and took him almost off the Fancy Feast he got even better. Yesterday he got into the dry I still haven't weaned some hard core guys off of and threw up 10 minutes later, he was punky all day. I'm going to switch to raw feeding as soon as I get my grinder :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: transfer factor
Second the dry food post, dry food is absolutely not good for cats, it contains grains that cats cannot process. There is almost NO dry food that is good for cats. If it has grains of any kind in the ingredients I don't care what the manufacture says it isn't good for cats, and especially cats with IBD. As sson as I took Joey off of the dry he got better, still had runs off and on, but alot more off than on, and once I started cooking for them and took him almost off the Fancy Feast he got even better. Yesterday he got into the dry I still haven't weaned some hard core guys off of and threw up 10 minutes later, he was punky all day. I'm going to switch to raw feeding as soon as I get my grinder :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: transfer factor
Hi Paul, I do remember Misha. I answered your post pretty extensively and we never heard back from you. Did you get the info I sent? You should wean Misha off dry food. I know the vets are brainwashed about Science Diet foods, but they are very low in quality and terrible for a cat with IBD symptoms, (chronic diarrhea being a symptom). Any quality wet food would be better for Misha than dry. Please consider switching her food to a canned food, preferably without grains or vegetables in the ingredient list. I'm not clear on the different ways that Interferon and TF work to bolster the immune system. Interferon is a naturally occurring substance in our bodies that helps with immune defense. The human interferon, (Interferon A), is available from your vet. Here's the info I've posted before on TF: Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something in chicken yolks. The idea is to "educate" an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. Here's a link for info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com/TransferFactor/basic.htm Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. I got it from Sally, (Sally Foster -- dist #6042525) one of my FeLV list members. There's a website link below, you might want to check out, but they don't have their order page encrypted, so it's safer to order over the phone. When I ordered I used Sally's name because she's registered as a distributor, I don't know if it got me a better price or not. The wholesale price on the products from the most recent list I have is: Transfer Factor Classic -- 90 caps/$37.95 Transfer Factor Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$39.95 TF Plus Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$54.95 TF Feline Complete -- 60 - 2 grm. servings/$35.95 Animal Stress Pack -- 7 - 2 oz.packets/$48.95 www.4life.com <http://www.4life.com> Paul Jr wrote: I vaguly remeber a website about Transfer Factor can someone point me int he right direction? Also what is the diffrence between giving an FELV+ cat Interferon vs. Transfer Factor? If anyone remebers I asked about Misha, my darling skinny calico, who is almost 7 years old and FeLV+ and on Science Diet I/D dry cat food and has on/off ( alot on, runny bowels). Thanks for your help! Melody - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CFAITH - Your Online Faith Family - http://www.cfaith.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Re: transfer factor
I vaguly remeber a website about Transfer Factor can someone point me int he right direction? Also what is the diffrence between giving an FELV+ cat Interferon vs. Transfer Factor? If anyone remebers I asked about Misha, my darling skinny calico, who is almost 7 years old and FeLV+ and on Science Diet I/D dry cat food and has on/off ( alot on, runny bowels). Thanks for your help! Melody - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CFAITH - Your Online Faith Family - http://www.cfaith.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Re: Transfer Factor
Nina, Thank you for the information. Is this a supplement for their immune system? How often do you use it? It sounds wonderful, I just want to make sure I understand what it is. Thanks!! Erika
RE: Transfer Factor
Title: Message Michelle, Thanks for the update and great to hear the news about Bramble. He has found the best home & friend possible, and I think the little honey knows that. Who wouldn't want to get better! Hope the vet visit about his eyes goes really well. Please don't worrry about the fact you're not giving him a home-cooked diet -- he is getting a high-quality diet, medical attention, and that most important thing--limitless love and care. take care, and all good wishes for Bramble's continuing recovery, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:32 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Transfer Factor Hi It's too early to say yet so I don't want to run before I can walk here but Bramble has been on the Transfer Factor noe since Saturday and his coat is shining. His coat was always dull and full of dandruff - the dandruff is going and his coat is shining and feels so silky. He has jumped on the bed twice today himself and got comfy and is beside me now. He is blind when the light is on and has to feel his way around bless him but can see at least something some of the time when it is dull which I why I suspect he is still having mild seizures. He seems happier although still confused and freaked by the other cats when he can't see as they brush up against him but he trusts me so much to guide him. He had been scratching a patch under his ear at the side of his face too so seeing as though he will be earmite free after the syringe and the recent revolution dilema - I suspected his food may be doing it - also his dental problems may have been irritating him - although that should have resolved due to dental extractions and weeks of antibiotics. I changed his food now too over to the organic whiskers and that patch seems to be healing. I know many suggest a home cooked diet but I can't bare to cook or handle much meat. I am vegan and emptying cat food out of a packet, cutting up ready cooked chicken chunks, or scraping shreaded fish out of a tin is about as much as I can handle. Poor little boy decided he wanted to pee when I was changing the litter so he just squatted on the floor where his litter tray usually are - at least he knew where he was. I am going to go and see the vet next week over his eyes and take some info with me. I also bought her a book on transfer factor. Hopefully when I tell her of his improvement she will believe me and not the other vet. I'm going to ask about getting the FeLV cat on interferon too. If that is not an option then I'll buy it online and dilute myself with the direction of you guys who are already doing it. Fingers crossed and still praying which I have been doing every day and night. It was strange - one night when I prayed for a signal to tell me what is right for Bramble - I had a dream where my recently deceased baby girl Tidge appeared and a male voice was at the back of her saying keep trying. I have since had many strange dreams but that's nothing new (Bramble says mummy is just strange). Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel & BuddyMayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP is moving our Chicago office to the Hyatt Center, 71 S. Wacker Drive, Chicago, Illinois 60606. Email addresses, telephone numbers, and facsimile numbers remain unchanged. For more information, click the link below or copy / paste the link into the address bar of your Web browser: http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp Please Note: Some administrative functions will be located at 230 S. LaSalle, Chicago IL, 60604. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Transfer Factor
Hi Erika, The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. I got it from Sally, (Sally Foster -- dist #6042525) one of our list members. There's a website link below, you might want to check out, but they don't have their order page encrypted, so it's safer to order over the phone. When I ordered I used Sally's name because she's registered as a distributor, I don't know if it got me a better price or not. I had posted a link with more info about TF not to long ago, if you can't find it, let me know and I'll look for it and post it again. The wholesale price on the products from the most recent list I have is: Transfer Factor Classic -- 90 caps/$37.95 Transfer Factor Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$39.95 TF Plus Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$54.95 <>TF Feline Complete -- 60 - 2 grm. servings/$35.95 Animal Stress Pack -- 7 - 2 oz.packets/$48.95<> www.4life.com That is great about the Transfer Factor! Thinking about your little guy! Does anyone know where I can buy TF for Tom? Erika
Re: Transfer Factor
Michelle, That is great about the Transfer Factor! Thinking about your little guy! Does anyone know where I can buy TF for Tom? Erika When the defining moment comes, either you define the moment, or the moment defines you.
RE: Transfer Factor
I also have been using TF, too - instead of Feline type, I use the human TF plus type - I read on the website that a few vets recommending to use the human plus type over feline type for especially for little guys whose immune system has been compromised due to any serious illness including feLV - though I realized that there are some ingredients that are in feline type are not in the human type - anyway, I have been using it on Ginger every day, and started using on George (a feral boy that I have been trying to catch) - he drank it in the sardine juice - and I tasted it myself too, but it did not taste that bad - which is a good thing for us - I picture Bramble squatting on the floor to pee with no litter box - it gave me a big smile for the day - he must have looked so cute(he probably did not think it was funny - sorry, Bramble) - any little things our feline guys do, I am very intrigued by it - I am just so lucky to have known them and have know you guys on the list, and have learned to appreciate them in a way that we do - I believe that your baby, Tidge is a guardian angel for you, Bramble, Minstrel & Buddy - I will be praying for your baby, Bramble - Loves and hugs to you and all of your precious angels... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Transfer Factor Michelle, I've been using TF too. I can't tell you if it's having any effect, but I'm not seeing any adverse reactions either. Happily it tastes good. My Timmy, the one that tested neg from my litter, is very finicky, but he'll eat it in a bit of tuna. It sounds like Bramble is improving. I can't wait for your visit to the vet about his eyes. Which vet are you seeing now? Is this the same vet that's been giving you all the trouble about treating him? Are his pupils dilating normally when the light changes? I sure hope there's something that can be done to restore his sight to normal. How wonderful that he trusts you. What a sweet angel you've got there. I'm in love and I haven't even met him! Hey, maybe that was St. Francis who showed up with Tidge in your dream to give you encouragement, (he must have heard us talking about him!). You're doing the right thing. You're so obviously a loving caregiver, I'm sure you'd know if you were causing him needless suffering. As far as being "strange"... It isn't such a bad thing. I've seen "normal", and I'm perfectly happy being considered "strange"! Much love to you Michelle, we're all pulling for you and your angels, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi > > It's too early to say yet so I don't want to run before I can walk > here but Bramble has been on the Transfer Factor noe since Saturday > and his coat is shining. His coat was always dull and full of dandruff > - the dandruff is going and his coat is shining and feels so silky. He > has jumped on the bed twice today himself and got comfy and is beside > me now. He is blind when the light is on and has to feel his way > around bless him but can see at least something some of the time when > it is dull which I why I suspect he is still having mild seizures. He > seems happier although still confused and freaked by the other > cats when he can't see as they brush up against him but he trusts me > so much to guide him. He had been scratching a patch under his ear at > the side of his face too so seeing as though he will be earmite free > after the syringe and the recent revolution dilema - I suspected his > food may be doing it - also his dental problems may have been > irritating him - although that should have resolved due to dental > extractions and weeks of antibiotics. I changed his food now too over > to the organic whiskers and that patch seems to be healing. I know > many suggest a home cooked diet but I can't bare to cook or handle > much meat. I am vegan and emptying cat food out of a packet, cutting > up ready cooked chicken chunks, or scraping shreaded fish out of a tin > is about as much as I can handle. > > Poor little boy decided he wanted to pee when I was changing the > litter so he just squatted on the floor where his litter tray usually > are - at least he knew where he was. > > I am going to go and see the vet next week over his eyes and take some > info with me. I also bought her a book on transfer factor. Hopefully > when I tell her of his improvement she will believe me and not the > other vet. I'm going to ask about getting the FeLV cat on interferon > too. If that is not an option then I'll buy it online and dilute > myself with the direction of you gu
Re: Transfer Factor
Michelle, I've been using TF too. I can't tell you if it's having any effect, but I'm not seeing any adverse reactions either. Happily it tastes good. My Timmy, the one that tested neg from my litter, is very finicky, but he'll eat it in a bit of tuna. It sounds like Bramble is improving. I can't wait for your visit to the vet about his eyes. Which vet are you seeing now? Is this the same vet that's been giving you all the trouble about treating him? Are his pupils dilating normally when the light changes? I sure hope there's something that can be done to restore his sight to normal. How wonderful that he trusts you. What a sweet angel you've got there. I'm in love and I haven't even met him! Hey, maybe that was St. Francis who showed up with Tidge in your dream to give you encouragement, (he must have heard us talking about him!). You're doing the right thing. You're so obviously a loving caregiver, I'm sure you'd know if you were causing him needless suffering. As far as being "strange"... It isn't such a bad thing. I've seen "normal", and I'm perfectly happy being considered "strange"! Much love to you Michelle, we're all pulling for you and your angels, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi It's too early to say yet so I don't want to run before I can walk here but Bramble has been on the Transfer Factor noe since Saturday and his coat is shining. His coat was always dull and full of dandruff - the dandruff is going and his coat is shining and feels so silky. He has jumped on the bed twice today himself and got comfy and is beside me now. He is blind when the light is on and has to feel his way around bless him but can see at least something some of the time when it is dull which I why I suspect he is still having mild seizures. He seems happier although still confused and freaked by the other cats when he can't see as they brush up against him but he trusts me so much to guide him. He had been scratching a patch under his ear at the side of his face too so seeing as though he will be earmite free after the syringe and the recent revolution dilema - I suspected his food may be doing it - also his dental problems may have been irritating him - although that should have resolved due to dental extractions and weeks of antibiotics. I changed his food now too over to the organic whiskers and that patch seems to be healing. I know many suggest a home cooked diet but I can't bare to cook or handle much meat. I am vegan and emptying cat food out of a packet, cutting up ready cooked chicken chunks, or scraping shreaded fish out of a tin is about as much as I can handle. Poor little boy decided he wanted to pee when I was changing the litter so he just squatted on the floor where his litter tray usually are - at least he knew where he was. I am going to go and see the vet next week over his eyes and take some info with me. I also bought her a book on transfer factor. Hopefully when I tell her of his improvement she will believe me and not the other vet. I'm going to ask about getting the FeLV cat on interferon too. If that is not an option then I'll buy it online and dilute myself with the direction of you guys who are already doing it. Fingers crossed and still praying which I have been doing every day and night. It was strange - one night when I prayed for a signal to tell me what is right for Bramble - I had a dream where my recently deceased baby girl Tidge appeared and a male voice was at the back of her saying keep trying. I have since had many strange dreams but that's nothing new (Bramble says mummy is just strange). Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel & Buddy
Transfer Factor
Hi It's too early to say yet so I don't want to run before I can walk here but Bramble has been on the Transfer Factor noe since Saturday and his coat is shining. His coat was always dull and full of dandruff - the dandruff is going and his coat is shining and feels so silky. He has jumped on the bed twice today himself and got comfy and is beside me now. He is blind when the light is on and has to feel his way around bless him but can see at least something some of the time when it is dull which I why I suspect he is still having mild seizures. He seems happier although still confused and freaked by the other cats when he can't see as they brush up against him but he trusts me so much to guide him. He had been scratching a patch under his ear at the side of his face too so seeing as though he will be earmite free after the syringe and the recent revolution dilema - I suspected his food may be doing it - also his dental problems may have been irritating him - although that should have resolved due to dental extractions and weeks of antibiotics. I changed his food now too over to the organic whiskers and that patch seems to be healing. I know many suggest a home cooked diet but I can't bare to cook or handle much meat. I am vegan and emptying cat food out of a packet, cutting up ready cooked chicken chunks, or scraping shreaded fish out of a tin is about as much as I can handle. Poor little boy decided he wanted to pee when I was changing the litter so he just squatted on the floor where his litter tray usually are - at least he knew where he was. I am going to go and see the vet next week over his eyes and take some info with me. I also bought her a book on transfer factor. Hopefully when I tell her of his improvement she will believe me and not the other vet. I'm going to ask about getting the FeLV cat on interferon too. If that is not an option then I'll buy it online and dilute myself with the direction of you guys who are already doing it. Fingers crossed and still praying which I have been doing every day and night. It was strange - one night when I prayed for a signal to tell me what is right for Bramble - I had a dream where my recently deceased baby girl Tidge appeared and a male voice was at the back of her saying keep trying. I have since had many strange dreams but that's nothing new (Bramble says mummy is just strange). Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel & Buddy
Re: Transfer Factor
Michelle, Please let meknow how it works out and I will have Bramble in my prayers Niki - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: Transfer Factor Nikki - I have had Bramble on Trasfer Factor for 3 days now so I'll let you know how it goes. It was a case of every thing to gain and nothing to lose by trying it. Michelle
Transfer Factor
Nikki - I have had Bramble on Trasfer Factor for 3 days now so I'll let you know how it goes. It was a case of every thing to gain and nothing to lose by trying it. Michelle
Re: Transfer Factor
I hope Bramble gets better soon, sending positive energy his way. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 6/7/2005
Re: Transfer Factor-- seizures
An acupuncturist showed me that rubbing the ears vigourously during a seizure makes it milder and end sooner. Michelle
RE: Transfer Factor
Title: Message Sending lots of positive vibes for brave little Bramble, and praying he pulls through. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:45 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Transfer Factor Thanks for the transfer factor link - I have ordered some today - desperation calls for desperate action. I have just been back to the vet with Bramble - he had another seizure about 2 hours ago - so that was 2 in about 13 hours. The vet said if he continues overnight and tomorrow with this frequencies then he is probably in the final stages and suffering from it - so will need to euthanase - I do agree with that but I have ordered the transfer factor on an overnight delivery living in hope until the end. I think deep down I know It's too late for him but I am not giving up hope until I have too - Please pray hard for Bramble. Michelle LMayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP is moving our Chicago office to the Hyatt Center, 71 S. Wacker Dr., Chicago, Illinois 60606 - effective June 15, 2005. Email addresses, telephone numbers, and facsimile numbers remain unchanged. For more information, click the link below or copy / paste the link into the address bar of your Web browser: http://www.mayerbrownrowe.com/chicago/move.asp Please Note: Effective July 1, 2005, some administrative functions will be located at 230 S. LaSalle, Chicago IL, 60604. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Transfer Factor
Hi Michelle, It is the hardest thing in the world to watch your animal having seizures I really think that seizure frequency shouldn't be the only factor in determining euthanasia - there are many things that can cause seizures. My Ninja's seizures accelerated from 1 every 3 wks to 2 at 10 days and then 5 in one day a week later we were able to control her seizures, but if I were off even by a couple of hours in when she got her meds (twice a day) she would have a "bad patch" and go back into the seizures - 1 every couple of hours. That only needed to happen once for me to always be on time with her meds. Final stages of what btw? Am sending big strong health vibes Bramble's way.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the transfer factor link - I have ordered some today - desperation calls for desperate action. I have just been back to the vet with Bramble - he had another seizure about 2 hours ago - so that was 2 in about 13 hours. The vet said if he continues overnight and tomorrow with this frequencies then he is probably in the final stages and suffering from it - so will need to euthanase - I do agree with that but I have ordered the transfer factor on an overnight delivery living in hope until the end. I think deep down I know It's too late for him but I am not giving up hope until I have too - Please pray hard for Bramble. Michelle LBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
Transfer Factor
Thanks for the transfer factor link - I have ordered some today - desperation calls for desperate action. I have just been back to the vet with Bramble - he had another seizure about 2 hours ago - so that was 2 in about 13 hours. The vet said if he continues overnight and tomorrow with this frequencies then he is probably in the final stages and suffering from it - so will need to euthanase - I do agree with that but I have ordered the transfer factor on an overnight delivery living in hope until the end. I think deep down I know It's too late for him but I am not giving up hope until I have too - Please pray hard for Bramble. Michelle L
Transfer Factor info link
Here's a link to info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com/TransferFactor/basic.htm Nina wrote: Michelle, I kept meaning to post about this... You had mentioned Transfer Factor before, (it was you, right?). Sally, one of our list members uses it alot and has had good results from it. I've used it too, but along with all the other things I'll try with a symptomatic kitty, I couldn't tell you if it had any effect for sure. From what I understand, there's nothing in it that can cause harm, it tastes good to them, and what the hell, it just might help. Nina
