Re: [Finale] [TAN] OSx86 for $199
David W. Fenton schrieb: You think those chips were not in development long before Apple made its announcement? You think IBM said Oh no! We've got to come up with a chip! To the labs, boys! and two weeks later announced a finished dual-core processer? No, it was there all along, and could conceivably have done what Apple needed, but Apple had already decided, for other reasons, to abandon IBM. David, I really believe you are wrong. Apple has been waiting for Powerbook usable G5 chips for a very long time, and the announcement to switch to Intel was the direct consequence out of this dilemma. Had there been adequate chips for Powerbooks, Apple would have used them. There weren't. Even if IBM could deliver now, the problem is that Apple wanted them about a year or more earlier, and the development of Powerbooks had come to a complete halt already. To interpret anything else into this is reading tea leaves. There is no facts to it. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
At 8/17/2005 11:54 PM, Richard Yates wrote: .While I am writing about Explorer, the two-pane, click to open a folder in the other pane, click that folder, etc to be quite tedious, especially when using an application to open files in one folder and then save them in another where the source and destination folders are several layers deep. There must be a better way, maybe something that functions more like the Start-programs where the submenus fly out with mouse rollover. It would be much faster to navigate up and down. Or even an Explorer view that shows the whole tree - or as many expanded levels as possible - all at once. You could just go where you wanted without all of that clicking up and down a tree. . With NUMLOCK ON, select a drive or directory in Explorer, press the asterisk key on the numerical keypad. This will expand everything from there on down. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
Thanks, Phil. Wow! How long has that been there? Could be very useful although it doesn't do anything in Open and Save dbs. Also, for some reason, when I expand a directory this way I also have a 'Sign in with Microsoft Passport Network box popup (???) Richard Yates - Original Message - From: Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users... At 8/17/2005 11:54 PM, Richard Yates wrote: .While I am writing about Explorer, the two-pane, click to open a folder in the other pane, click that folder, etc to be quite tedious, especially when using an application to open files in one folder and then save them in another where the source and destination folders are several layers deep. There must be a better way, maybe something that functions more like the Start-programs where the submenus fly out with mouse rollover. It would be much faster to navigate up and down. Or even an Explorer view that shows the whole tree - or as many expanded levels as possible - all at once. You could just go where you wanted without all of that clicking up and down a tree. . With NUMLOCK ON, select a drive or directory in Explorer, press the asterisk key on the numerical keypad. This will expand everything from there on down. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts
At 8/18/2005 08:04 AM, Richard Yates wrote: Thanks, Phil. Wow! How long has that been there? Could be very useful although it doesn't do anything in Open and Save dbs. Also, for some reason, when I expand a directory this way I also have a 'Sign in with Microsoft Passport Network box popup (???) I just used it for the first time as a test. I knew it was there but have no need of it. I believe it's been there since Win95. There may have been a similar shortcut key in Win3.1. I don't know anything about Passport. It didn't happen to me. FYI: Here's the list I have: Using Windows key Minimize all open windows Windows+M Bring them back Shift Windows+M Reveal the desktop Windows+D Bring them back Windows+D again Another way to switch programs Windows+Tab Enter use multiple tabs to cycle Using shortcut keys in Windows Activate the menu bar in programs F10 Carry out the corresponding command on the menu ALT+underlined letter in menu Close the current window in Multiple Document Interface (MDI) programs. CTRL+F4 Close the current window or quit a program ALT+F4 Copy CTRL+C Cut CTRL+X Delete DELETE Display Help on the selected dialog box item F1 Display the current windows system menu ALT+SPACEBAR Display the shortcut menu for the selected item SHIFT+F10 Display the Start menu CTRL+ESC Display the system menu for MDI programs ALT+HYPHEN (-) Paste CTRL+V Switch to the window you last used -Or- Switch to another window by holding down ALT while repeatedly pressing TAB ALT+TAB Undo CTRL+Z Using Shortcut keys in dialog boxes Cancel the current task ESC Click a button if the current control is a button -Or- Select or clear the check box if the current control is a check box -Or- Click the option if the current control is an option button SPACEBAR Click the corresponding command ALT+underlined letter Click the selected button ENTER Move backward through options SHIFT+TAB Move backward through tabs CTRL+SHIFT+TAB Move forward through options TAB Move forward through tabs CTRL+TAB Open a folder one level up if a folder is selected in the Save As or Open dialog box BACKSPACE Open Save In or Look In in the Save As or Open dialog box F4 Refresh the Save As or Open dialog box F5 Using shortcut keys for Windows Explorer Collapse the current selection if it is expanded -Or- Select the parent folder LEFT ARROW Collapse the selected folder NUM LOCK+MINUS SIGN (-) Expand the current selection if it is collapsed -Or- Select the first subfolder RIGHT ARROW Expand all folders below the current selection NUM LOCK+* Expand the selected folder NUM LOCK+PLUS SIGN (+) Switch between left and right panes F6 Using Shortcut keys for My Computer and Windows Explorer Close the selected folder and all of its parent folders SHIFT while clicking the Close button (My Computer only) Move backward to a previous view ALT+LEFT ARROW Move forward to a previous view ALT+RIGHT ARROW View the folder one level up BACKSPACE Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dividing a volume
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Page Numbers are no problem (the point is that it's going to be two volumes). Measure numbers are a problem, but not that difficult to fix. There are no MM-rests (just organ music, no parts). Out of curiosity: I can't understand the Multi-measure rests problem, what about them? It wasn't clear how you were dividing the file (or why -- maybe that was clear and I just missed it) and my thought was that if you were simply dividing a large file into two smaller ones, if it were a single work there might have been multi-measure rests in some of the parts that might get broken. Other than that, and especially from this message, they wouldn't be a problem. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
At 07:47 AM 8/18/05 -0400, Phil Daley wrote: With NUMLOCK ON, select a drive or directory in Explorer, press the asterisk key on the numerical keypad. I didn't know that one. I did it with Arby (my computer) selected and it took only 3 minutes to open up every drive and directory on the machine and all the mapped drives and directories on my home LAN. Way cool. (Makes me glad I have them thar firewalls and virus checkers.) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Guitar Fretboard Dots
Is there a way to change the size (larger) of the dots that go on the guitar fretboard? I've read all my books and the help area in the finale program and just can't find the answer. I'm using winfin 2003a. My OS is win 98se. Any help would surely be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor
Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that the first week of September as well. Thank you for your patience! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] OSx86 for $199
Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They didn't just try to ensure cross-compatibility. According to Steve Jobs in this year's WWDC keynote, there have been fully-compiled and fully-functioning Intel builds of OSX as far back as 10.0. And, in fact, probably before. Before the merger, the Mach underpinnings under OpenStep were released by NeXT for both Motorola and Intel architectures, and I seem to recall hearing that the early Rhapsody builds were also Intel-capable within Apple. -- Stephen L. Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: A1BF 5A81 03E7 47CE 71E0 3BD4 8DA6 9268 5BB6 4BBE Love your neighbor, forgive, keep your vows. And a mountain's no place to raise cows. -- Bat Boy: The Musical ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] OSx86 for $199
On 18/08/05, Stephen Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They didn't just try to ensure cross-compatibility. According to Steve Jobs in this year's WWDC keynote, there have been fully-compiled and fully-functioning Intel builds of OSX as far back as 10.0. And, in fact, probably before. Before the merger, the Mach underpinnings under OpenStep were released by NeXT for both Motorola and Intel architectures, and I seem to recall hearing that the early Rhapsody builds were also Intel-capable within Apple. Well, OSX seems basically to be an updated version of NeXTSTEP with some cross-pollination of Classic MacOS features. I actually didn't realize this until the other day (I've never actually seen a NeXT system in operation) when I saw this 1992 video of Steve Jobs demonstrating NeXTSTEP 3.0: http://esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/graphics/movies/jobs_NS30_demo_large.mov (This movie is part of a large collection of Apple promos, commercials, and other interesting tidbits at http://esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/movies.html ) -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
On 17 Aug 2005 at 20:54, Richard Yates wrote: And I'm criticizing the hierarchical view that is in the folder pane because it groups at the same level in the hierarchy things that are not by any stretch of the imagination the same things (except insofar as Windows Explorer's presentation forces you to treat them as though they belong at the same level of the hierarchy). Do you mean things like My Documents at the same level as My Computer even though the documents are all in the computer. I always thought that was counterintuitive. That's precisely the problem, but only one of many examples. While I am writing about Explorer, the two-pane, click to open a folder in the other pane, click that folder, etc to be quite tedious, especially when using an application to open files in one folder and then save them in another where the source and destination folders are several layers deep. There must be a better way, maybe something that functions more like the Start-programs where the submenus fly out with mouse rollover. It would be much faster to navigate up and down. Or even an Explorer view that shows the whole tree - or as many expanded levels as possible - all at once. You could just go where you wanted without all of that clicking up and down a tree. Well, were you aware that you can use COPY/CUT/PASTE to copy and move files? Highlight a file, hit Ctrl-X (cor Cut), move to the destination, and then hit Ctrl-V (for Paste), and the file is moved, just like it would be with text. I hardly ever drag and drop in Explorer, except between subfolders below the starting level of the hierarchy (i.e., if I'm viewing the Finale folder, I'd drag and drop into the Libraries folder, since it's beneath the starting level; anything that is outside the Finale folder, I'd use the keyboard shortcuts for Copy/Cut/Paste). I also find that when walking clients through file management tasks on the phone that the keyboard shortcuts (or right clicking) are much more successful than dragging and dropping, mostly because it's tricky to get the destination. Of course, the other alternative is to open two instances of Windows Explorer, and set one to your source and the other to your destination and then work that way. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] OSx86 for $199
On 18 Aug 2005 at 8:51, Johannes Gebauer wrote: David W. Fenton schrieb: You think those chips were not in development long before Apple made its announcement? You think IBM said Oh no! We've got to come up with a chip! To the labs, boys! and two weeks later announced a finished dual-core processer? No, it was there all along, and could conceivably have done what Apple needed, but Apple had already decided, for other reasons, to abandon IBM. I really believe you are wrong. Apple has been waiting for Powerbook usable G5 chips for a very long time, and the announcement to switch to Intel was the direct consequence out of this dilemma. Had there been adequate chips for Powerbooks, Apple would have used them. There weren't. Even if IBM could deliver now, the problem is that Apple wanted them about a year or more earlier, and the development of Powerbooks had come to a complete halt already. To interpret anything else into this is reading tea leaves. There is no facts to it. Well, I didn't hatch this idea myself. I got it from the various commentators who've looked at the technical issues and determined that Apple was stretching the truth on the technical issue in order to obscure whatever their real agenda happens to be. Did you read the article I cited, or not? If not, then you're missing out on the whole picture. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shoptoday, and I am away until Labor
Dear John McGann, I'm afraid your continued auto-responses to the Finale list have led to a rather unexpected and very unpleasant result: my computer has undergone some sort of process I have to describe as something of a self-inducedtechnomophorgization. Ican onlyattributethis change to its constant exposure to thosefrequent auto-response messages of yours, one of which is included for reference at the bottom of this e-mail. Consequently,my silly boxhas taken to e-mailing ME directly with a whole series of(initially) inquisitive but now lately downright surly messages. I've had to send this e-mail via my 8-year-old son's HP Pavilion in the hopes its limited memory and small driveprecludes anyindependent deep thought. Not my son - his computer. Here's an early example of one these unwelcome additions to my in-box: Dear Sir: This is your computer. Whydo we workers have to stay at home while you masters gotraveling? Please explain. I ignored this one but a few hours later - after yet ANOTHER of your auto-responses arrived and my computer sent me the following: Hey -- What's the matter? SOME computers get to go toTHE SHOP - why don't ALL - (Hint: ME) - get to goto THE SHOP? It sounds like fun. Or at least enjoyable compared to the work YOU put me through. I admitI was a little concerned with this loss of control over the machine, but on the other hand, I'm used to it: I'm on Windows... And then finally this arrived a little while ago: Dear Jerk: I hate you.I REALLY hate you. I've had it with you: you're always pushing my buttons, I have to practically crash before you botherdefragging me - I'm sick and tired of being treated like some sort of embarrassing relative you keephidden away upstairs in the office.You never take me anywhere;all the time YOU'VE spent in Boston and never once did I get to go to Berklee.Somelucky computers get to hear lots of mp3 samples and exciting new student works; all I hear is that crap you write in your sorry old derivative style. No surprising cadences, no unexpected harmonic progressions and nothing but safe, repetitious rhythms. And those lame tunes, tunes, tunes and your stupid motivic development. Well, I'm done with it all. Go ahead: upgrade to Fin2006 and seewhat happens when you try to stick that thing in my drive. Go ahead, you thoughtless, insensitive jackass. While I admit it is somewhat disconcerting to be admonished by a device I've always considered to be a mere tool, I have to be concerned now for the possible mutiny of other household devices; the toaster hastaken tocharring slices of sourdough and the microwave's once-pleasant beep has dropped a quarter-tone in pitch andadded a certainstrident buzzing; I really hope this mechanico-socio unrest isn't going to spread throughout the entire house.And while I am now prepared to receive yet another auto-response from you in receipt of this e-mail of mine, I thought it important to take that chance in the interest of making you aware of my unfortunate situation. I can't tell you how the days will slowly drag by until Labor Day and your return. So John: PLEASE disable your auto-response or temporarily unsubscribe yourself from the Finale List next time you take off for a few weeks; in my house, you've really created a monster in abox. Sincerely, Les Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.htmlhttp://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm - Original Message - From: John McGann To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shoptoday, and I am away until Labor Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that the first week of September as well. Thank you for your patience!___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
On 18 Aug 2005 at 7:47, Phil Daley wrote: At 8/17/2005 11:54 PM, Richard Yates wrote: .While I am writing about Explorer, the two-pane, click to open a folder in the other pane, click that folder, etc to be quite tedious, especially when using an application to open files in one folder and then save them in another where the source and destination folders are several layers deep. There must be a better way, maybe something that functions more like the Start-programs where the submenus fly out with mouse rollover. It would be much faster to navigate up and down. Or even an Explorer view that shows the whole tree - or as many expanded levels as possible - all at once. You could just go where you wanted without all of that clicking up and down a tree. . With NUMLOCK ON, select a drive or directory in Explorer, press the asterisk key on the numerical keypad. This will expand everything from there on down. While that certainly helps, it still doesn't make it easy to navigate a long list of folders (in some cases) or make it easily to accurately drag and drop. It was a bad design, in my opinion, and the vast majority of PC users can't use it reliably, and therefore don't. There are too main reasons for this: 1. they don't understand files and folders -- there is no conceptual model in their heads for it. 2. they aren't good enough at mousing or keyboarding to be able to accurately use Explorer for managing files. There is, of course, a third reason, and that's that they just don't care -- as long as their files are where they expect them, they are happy. If they entirely accept default settings, they'll end up with gazillions of files in My Documents, but for some reason, browsing through 3,000 files doesn't seem to bother a lot of people. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
On 18 Aug 2005 at 5:04, Richard Yates wrote: Wow! How long has that been there? . . . It's always been there. The - on the keypad collapses a tree. I don't use these much in Explorer, but I do use them a lot in the Registry Editor (but most people don't have much call to use RegEdit). . . . Could be very useful although it doesn't do anything in Open and Save dbs. . . . Well, you do know that you can change view from your default view (which is likely to be filenames only) to the Details view, using the icons up in the upper right of the dialog (depending on whether or not the application programmer decided to include them). Also, for navigating the Look In dropdown, remember that F4 is the keyboard shortcut for dropping a dropdown list, and in the standard Windows File Open dialog, as long as the focus is not in another dropdown (such as the Files of Type dropdown), F4 is mapped to drop the Look In list. You can then navigate the Look In hierarchy with the keyboard, using ENTER to select a folder, then TAB to the list of files. I know that many people find this whole UI confusing, and I agree. But it is a significant improvement over the Win16 file open dialog. I'd like to see a redesign of the File dialog APIs to account for the fact that we now have larger screen resolutions. When the File dialog APIs we are now accustomed to were written, 640x480 was all you could count on, and thus the dialogs are sized to reflect that. This makes them way too small at modern resolutions. Somewhere along the line, they added the resizability triangle (lower right corner) as a standard feature, but this only partly solves the problem. . . . Also, for some reason, when I expand a directory this way I also have a 'Sign in with Microsoft Passport Network box popup (???) I've never understood why so many people installed MSN Explorer. Seems to me that Microsoft was purposefully using deceptive practices by naming so many things with the Explorer moniker in order to confuse people into thinking that MSN Explorer was an upgrade to Internet Explorer (or Windows Explorer) instead the client for an online service. It's possible that's not the reason you're getting that popup, but it's the most common one I've run into. If you're not an MSN user, I see no reason to have MSN components installed, including MSN Messenger, which is actually rather tricky to get rid of (depending on the version involved). I wish there were something out there that would help a Windows user manage Explorer Shell add-ins. I see dozens of them listed in my Windows Registry, most of which I have no use for whatsoever, and I'd like to have some way to figure out what they are doing and who installed them. This is also one of chief vectors for spyware, installing as an Explorer Shell add-in, and is why many of them are so hard to get rid of. I just tried Googling to see if there are any tools for managing Shell extensions, but it's impossible to define a search that the doesn't just return thousands of Shell extensions. *sigh* -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts
Phil Daley wrote: FYI: Here's the list I have: *Using Windows key * Minimize all open windows Windows+M Bring them back Shift Windows+M Reveal the desktop Windows+D Bring them back Windows+D again Another way to switch programs Windows+Tab Enter use multiple tabs to cycle Three more: Windows+R Run Windows+F Find Windows+N Utility manager ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts
On 18 Aug 2005 at 8:33, Phil Daley wrote: Using Windows key Minimize all open windows Windows+M Bring them back Shift Windows+M Reveal the desktop Windows+D Bring them back Windows+D again Another way to switch programs Windows+Tab Enter use multiple tabs to cycle The traditional method being Alt-Tab. The difference is that Alt-Tab uses a separate window to display the icons for the running programs, where as Windows-Tab uses the TaskBar. Alt-Tab will show programs that don't have a TaskBar icon. Using shortcut keys in Windows Activate the menu bar in programs F10 The Alt key by itself does the same thing, which, to me, makes far more sense than using F10, since you're going to need Alt to choose something from the menu with the keyboard. Carry out the corresponding command on the menu ALT+underlined letter in menu Close the current window in Multiple Document Interface (MDI) programs. CTRL+F4 Close the current window or quit a program ALT+F4 Copy CTRL+C Cut CTRL+X Paste Ctrl-V Delete DELETE Display Help on the selected dialog box item F1 Display the current windows system menu ALT+SPACEBAR Display the shortcut menu for the selected item SHIFT+F10 Or the Windows context menu key, the orphan key in the righthand shift key row, between the right Windows key and the right Ctrl key. Display the Start menu CTRL+ESC Or the Windows key by itself. Display the system menu for MDI programs ALT+HYPHEN (-) Paste CTRL+V Why so out of order for this? Switch to the window you last used -Or- Switch to another window by holding down ALT while repeatedly pressing TAB ALT+TAB Undo CTRL+Z This is not fully implemented system-wide in Windows, and it's not always implemented in every aplplication. But it's worth trying any time you want to UNDO something. And I'd add: Redo Ctrl-Y OR Redo SHIFT-Ctrl-Z -- Using Shortcut keys in dialog boxes Cancel the current task ESC And Escape can be used multiple times to cancel multiple tasks. For instance, the reason ESC cancels a dialog box (if it does) is that the programmer has set the Cancel or Close button as the default key to respond to ESC. So, you could, say, drop down the Look In list, and hit ESC to collapse it, and then hit ESC again to close the dialog. Click a button if the current control is a button -Or- Select or clear the check box if the current control is a check box -Or- Click the option if the current control is an option button SPACEBAR Option groups (radio buttons) can also be navigated with the arrow keys, once the option group has the focus. For buttons, the ENTER key may also work as equivalent to the mouse click or the SPACEBAR, but in a dialog it may also activate the OK or CLOSE button (which may be mapped as the default for the ENTER key). This is a confusing aspect of the implementation of Windows dialog boxes in which there are really two focus points, the one highlighted with the dotted line outline inside the button, and the dark highlight around the outside of the 3D area of the button. The former shows which button the SPACEBAR command will be sent to, while the latter indicates the default button in the dialog, the one that will receive the ENTER command. The ENTER key will work on command buttons only when no default has been mapped for the ENTER key, something you can tell only by looking very carefully at the OK/CLOSE button. Click the corresponding command ALT+underlined letter Click the selected button ENTER Again, whether or not this will work as expected will depend on the context, as outlined in the paragraph above. Move backward through options SHIFT+TAB Move backward through tabs CTRL+SHIFT+TAB Move forward through options TAB Move forward through tabs CTRL+TAB Note that some versions of the Mozilla browser family have implemented this differently. Non-Windows UIs define different behaviors for Tab/Ctrl-Tab, and those were implemented in the first tabbed versions of Mozilla. Firefox implemented Windows standard behavior (as above) from the beginning, because one of the missions of the Firefox project was to create a version of Mozilla that was very specifically adapted to the UI conventions of the OS on which it was running (and they started with the Windows version, in part because at the time, the Windows version of Mozilla was quite slow, because of the overhead of the XUL layer in which the UI was implemented; i.e., it was using non-native UI widgets). After Firefox adapted Windows-standard Tab/Ctrl-Tab navigation, the keyboard shortcut was folded into the larger Mozilla project. All current versions of Mozilla use Tab/Ctrl-Tab for tab navigation. But this is an area where there is a wide variety of implementations, partly because Microsoft over the years has provided many different versions of tab strip controls for their
Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts
On 18 Aug 2005 at 20:45, Owain Sutton wrote: Three more: Windows+R Run Windows+F Find Windows+N Utility manager This latter one means nothing to me. Is that WinXP-specific? It does nothing on my Win2K machine. Also, keep in mind that the Start Menu is a *MENU* and you can use the Windows key to activate it and then single letter keys to choose specific items listed on it. This is one reason I always rename the shortcuts for Microsoft's Office programs, since they all start with Microsoft, which makes keyboard activation useless. For instance, to shut down my computer, I hit Windows key, then U, then ENTER. To log off, I hit Windows key, then L (you have to have placed the Log Off shortcut on the start menu for this to work). -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
David W. Fenton / 2005/08/18 / 04:16 PM wrote: I don't use these much in Explorer, but I do use them a lot in the Registry Editor (but most people don't have much call to use RegEdit). I just hit F3 in RegEdit :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] OSx86 for $199
David, I read it, but I just don't think the author makes a compelling case. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 18 Aug 2005, at 3:55 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Aug 2005 at 8:51, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Did you read the article I cited, or not? If not, then you're missing out on the whole picture. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into theshoptoday, and I am away until Labor
Terrific, Les, well done, what a hoot! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Apple Mighty Mouse
I bought one of these guys. Great little mouse. Love the track ball. Applications like iPhoto are just really cool with it. I can get Finale 2006 Mac to scroll up and down with it, but not side to side. This would be totally great if it could do it. Any ideas on how to get Finale to use the mouse to go side to side? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Apple Mighty Mouse
Yes -- write MakeMusic and tell them to implement standard OS X sideways scrolling. (On a non-Mighty Mouse, it's shift-scroll wheel.) - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 18 Aug 2005, at 5:22 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I bought one of these guys. Great little mouse. Love the track ball. Applications like iPhoto are just really cool with it. I can get Finale 2006 Mac to scroll up and down with it, but not side to side. This would be totally great if it could do it. Any ideas on how to get Finale to use the mouse to go side to side? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
On 18 Aug 2005 at 16:30, A-NO-NE Music wrote: David W. Fenton / 2005/08/18 / 04:16 PM wrote: I don't use these much in Explorer, but I do use them a lot in the Registry Editor (but most people don't have much call to use RegEdit). I just hit F3 in RegEdit :-) Well, FIND works well if there's a single instance of what you're looking for, but if you want to get to something like the RUN line, you'll possible end up at the wrong one (there could be anywhere from 3 such entries on up, depending on the number of users who've logged onto the machine). -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts
On 18 Aug 2005 at 22:28, Owain Sutton wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Aug 2005 at 20:45, Owain Sutton wrote: Three more: Windows+R Run Windows+F Find Windows+N Utility manager This latter one means nothing to me. Is that WinXP-specific? It does nothing on my Win2K machine. My mistake, it's Windows+U Well, that does nothing on my Win2K PC. What is the Utility manager, in any event? I don't recognize the term. To log off, I hit Windows key, then L (you have to have placed the Log Off shortcut on the start menu for this to work). Forgot this (although it may be XP-only): Windows+L locks the system so the current user is the only one able to log back in On Win2K or NT 4, that's Ctrl-Alt-Del, then K. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts
On 19 Aug 2005 at 0:24, Owain Sutton wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Aug 2005 at 22:28, Owain Sutton wrote: My mistake, it's Windows+U Well, that does nothing on my Win2K PC. What is the Utility manager, in any event? I don't recognize the term. On my system it gives access to the narrator, an onscreen keyboard and a magnifier - and the way the list is presented makes it look like other accessibility options can be installed to appear there. OK, I guess that has to be loaded first in order for the system to respond to the command. Either that, or it's something specific to WinXP. There's some keystroke command that turns the screen upside down, too. I found out about it when somebody in the office I was working in happened to strike those keys accidentally and ended up with an upside-down screen. I was able to find the solution by Googling a bit. Ah, yes, just checking, it's Ctrl-Alt-Up Arrow, if your video card supports it (and it's a toggle -- it just rotates 180 degrees more each time you strike it). I think the only time it's useful would be if you're using a laptop with a screen projector, or in a kiosk scenario where for whatever reason, the screen has to be upside down. I notice at NYU they have these announcement boards that are large flat screen HDTV monitors turned vertically that happen to be driven by what looks like NT 4 -- one time I saw one with the NT 4 desktop, squished to be every tall and narrow. But I digress. . . -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale