Re: [Finale] Re: Text in only one part of a group (linked parts)
On 3 Jan 2010, at 9:20 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: > On Jan 3, 2010, Christopher Smith wrote: > >> I don't really get what you are trying to do. Why wouldn't you want a >> page number to show up on all parts? > > This is a file of a second movement, and the parts must start on a variety of > page numbers. This is one reason (among many) why separate files for separate movements is a dreadful idea to begin with. (One solution would be to forget about page numbers in Finale and add them later in Acrobat.) > I don't understand why page numbers on one page of one part should show up > in any other part. Because under any normal circumstances, you would need just one page number insert, which would automatically display the correct page number for each part. Anyway, text tool text cannot be added to "just one part," or even "just the score." By default, text tool text shows up in all parts plus the score. It can be *hidden* from selected parts, or the score, but it can't be modified or deleted without affecting all parts/score. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry
I think I've found it! Uncheck "playback" in the speedy menu. Who'd have thoughtdefinitely not intuitive. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Text in only one part of a group (linked parts)
On Jan 3, 2010, Christopher Smith wrote: I don't really get what you are trying to do. Why wouldn't you want a page number to show up on all parts? This is a file of a second movement, and the parts must start on a variety of page numbers. I hope you are using the Text tool (looks like a capital A) in page view, and using the Insert... command from the menu for the page number for this. If you use it in scroll view it attaches to the staff, and if you use the expression tool it attaches to the staff, too. You want to attach to the page. You then set the properties to show from page 2 on (so it doesn't show up on any title page.) Yep, that's what I've been doing. If there is some non-standard situation where you don't want this page number to show up on one or more parts, then hide it (right click, select Hide) while you are in the part. The problem is that if I place the page numbers for all parts in a group (e.g., flutes 1, 2, 3) in the same place on the page (e.g., center, bottom footer), they end up overlapping each other. I don't understand why page numbers on one page of one part should show up in any other part. Since I'm working against a deadline here, I've just gone back to extracting the parts from the score. I'm probably doing something wrong here. When I finish this project, I'll RTFM more closely. Thanks for the suggestions. Paul Hayden On Sat Jan 2, at SaturdayJan 2 1:12 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: FinMac09 Mac OS 10.5.8 Orchestral score using linked parts. Flutes 1 and 2 form a group. If I add text (e.g., page numbers) to flute 1, it shows up in flute 2 but not the other parts (which are, of course, not part of the flute group). I've read the manual and looked at the Quickstart Videos, but obviously I've missed something basic here. How can I add text to one part of a group without adding it to the other part(s) of the group? My workaround is to add the page number as an expression in the part. Please CC your reply to my address as I'm on the digest and may not receive your reply for another 24 hours. Thanks very much. Paul Hayden (who really can't believe he doesn't know the answer to this basic question...) Magnolia Music Press Voice & Pre-arranged fax: 225-769-9604 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry
>Michael Mathew At first I thought you'd hit on it, because when I opened a new document and the piano sound worked fine. But then as soon as I went to the speedy entry tool and then left itit stopped. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com Finale 2010b iMac ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duplicate an entire staff and its contents?
erm... add to that cross your finger and pray to your deity of the day? set filter to copy all, including clefs. in 2010 i've been extremely happy with the speed and results of the drag-to-copy function and i think they reengineered or improved it greatly in 2009, no? (i skipped 2009) Can anyone suggest of a way to do this, beyond Copy/Drag/Hope-for-the-best etc? Finale 2009 OS X. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Duplicate an entire staff and its contents?
Can anyone suggest of a way to do this, beyond Copy/Drag/Hope-for-the-best etc? Finale 2009 OS X. Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry
My instrument list is set for all instruments. I rummaged around in the MIDI/Audio menu item MIDI setup until I examined the output source for softsynth settings which listed two sources: Default Output, and Built-in Output. I tried the input both ways and discovered the following to be true for my setup: Toggling latter allows us to hear the keyboard; whereas, the "default output" leaves us with sound only in speedy edit? Michael Mathew Finale 2010b for Mac, also - Original Message - From: "Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre" To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 5:16:47 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry I think I have been able to recreate your problem. If the instrument list is set to mute all, there will be no playback, but the notes entered in speedy will still sound to the chosen instrument sound for the given staff. So take a look at your instrument list from the Windows menu. Klaus Finale 2010b for Mac --- On Mon, 1/4/10, mmathew1...@comcast.net wrote: > From: mmathew1...@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry > To: finale@shsu.edu > Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:34 AM > I have had the same thing happen to > me, also. I have no explanation, either, though it is > probably something basic? > > > Thanks ahead, also, > Michael Mathew > mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net > > mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com > > http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl > Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ryan" > > To: finale@shsu.edu > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 2:37:44 PM GMT -08:00 > US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in > Speedy Entry > > This happens to me too. Can't explain it. Looking forward > to some insight. > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Michael Greensill > wrote: > > > > This happens in some files and not others. I can't > seem to find any > > difference in settings that might cause this.. > > > > But sometimes I can only get sounds out of my keyboard > when in the speedy > > entry tool. As soon as I exit to another tool, > silence. > > > > I have midi thru set to fixed channel 1, in order to > get the piano sound. > > > > Mike G. > > > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry
I think I have been able to recreate your problem. If the instrument list is set to mute all, there will be no playback, but the notes entered in speedy will still sound to the chosen instrument sound for the given staff. So take a look at your instrument list from the Windows menu. Klaus Finale 2010b for Mac --- On Mon, 1/4/10, mmathew1...@comcast.net wrote: > From: mmathew1...@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry > To: finale@shsu.edu > Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:34 AM > I have had the same thing happen to > me, also. I have no explanation, either, though it is > probably something basic? > > > Thanks ahead, also, > Michael Mathew > mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net > > mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com > > http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl > Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ryan" > > To: finale@shsu.edu > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 2:37:44 PM GMT -08:00 > US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in > Speedy Entry > > This happens to me too. Can't explain it. Looking forward > to some insight. > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Michael Greensill > wrote: > > > > This happens in some files and not others. I can't > seem to find any > > difference in settings that might cause this.. > > > > But sometimes I can only get sounds out of my keyboard > when in the speedy > > entry tool. As soon as I exit to another tool, > silence. > > > > I have midi thru set to fixed channel 1, in order to > get the piano sound. > > > > Mike G. > > > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] score merging / score corruption / XLM
On Sun, January 3, 2010 6:56 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: > how can i tell if a file has any signs of corruption? For me it was always that making changes would cause other changes that were unexpected or if adding or changing notes wouldn't 'take'. Most of the time just saving to ETF and reloading the ETF would fix them. If not, I'd read the ETF (it was ASCII). I'm not sure of the details anymore, but there was a set of pointers I could read in the ETF files that would be jumbled, pointing to the next entry incorrectly. I would go through these by hand and fix them on a severely corrupted file. But ETF is deprecated, so no joy there. I suspect Michael's suggestion for the Music XML thing would be the next best thing. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] score merging / score corruption / XLM
hm, well i have 2005, 2007, 2008 and 2010 installed on my current machine, earlier versions were on a previous mac and the installers are in a box somewhere... how can i tell if a file has any signs of corruption? I used to solve merging by saving to ETF. You might do that if you have earlier versions of Finale installed. I would bring ETFs up from 2.2 -> 3.7 -> 2005, and then save the binary. Not sure if that will help the incipient corruption in your case. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry
I have had the same thing happen to me, also. I have no explanation, either, though it is probably something basic? Thanks ahead, also, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 - Original Message - From: "Ryan" To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 2:37:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry This happens to me too. Can't explain it. Looking forward to some insight. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Michael Greensill wrote: > This happens in some files and not others. I can't seem to find any > difference in settings that might cause this.. > > But sometimes I can only get sounds out of my keyboard when in the speedy > entry tool. As soon as I exit to another tool, silence. > > I have midi thru set to fixed channel 1, in order to get the piano sound. > > Mike G. > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry
This happens to me too. Can't explain it. Looking forward to some insight. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Michael Greensill wrote: > This happens in some files and not others. I can't seem to find any > difference in settings that might cause this.. > > But sometimes I can only get sounds out of my keyboard when in the speedy > entry tool. As soon as I exit to another tool, silence. > > I have midi thru set to fixed channel 1, in order to get the piano sound. > > Mike G. > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry
This happens in some files and not others. I can't seem to find any difference in settings that might cause this.. But sometimes I can only get sounds out of my keyboard when in the speedy entry tool. As soon as I exit to another tool, silence. I have midi thru set to fixed channel 1, in order to get the piano sound. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More drum grooves?
Maybe you could persuade finaletips.nu to add a section on this and perhaps people can contribute to it? Might be a good project. On 1/3/10 8:35 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Maybe I should describe more completely what I'm trying to accomplish. I often write charts for combos or big bands. For me, Finale is all about getting the notation clear for the live performance. My only interest in the realistic playback is to help me catch errors and improve the flow of the arrangements. I am definitely NOT looking for realistic drum parts and definitely not human-sounding fills. I'm looking for exactly the OPPOSITE of that. If there is a style change (say from rock to funk), I'll write a bar or two in the drum set part so the drummer knows what style we're looking for, then he's on his own. From there, I only write important punches. The Drum Groove feature is what I need. But I need a collection of simplified style examples. Some of the ones in the standard list are useful, but there are probably 15 or 20 other common styles that an arranger would want to show from time to time. I suppose a top flight drummer is supposed to know how to play a "bossa with 2-3 son clave", but I'd rather just write it out for them so there is no confusion. I can make these up for myself from examples in "The Drummer's Bible". I just thought somebody might already have done this. Moreover, it would be really great if FinaleMusic would supply ALL THE EXAMPLES from The Drummer's Bible. Thanks for listening. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] RE: score merging / score corruption / XML
Hi Jef, > has anyone else had a similar situation and worked with XML? i > haven't used it yet at all so really have no clue. What MakeMusic support suggest sounds good for removing the corruption issues. I would proceed as follows: 1) Open the old file in Finale 2010. 2) Use MusicXML -> Export to create a MusicXML file. 3) Use MusicXML -> Import to create a new Finale 2010 file from the MusicXML file. 4) Save the Finale 2010 file. 5) Use this new Finale 2010 file as input for the score merger. If you are using graphics in this score, be sure to export the MusicXML file as a compressed MusicXML (.mxl) file, rather than the default of an uncompressed MusicXML (.xml) file. Given the type of repertoire that you work with, you may want to use the Dolet 5 for Finale plug-in if the built-in MusicXML in Finale 2010 isn't up to the task. That way you can also have more control of the default Finale settings by importing into an empty document with all your settings set up as you want. Dolet 5 for Finale comes with a free 10-day trial at: http://store.recordare.com/dolet5fin.html But still, given your repertoire, you may find problems with the MusicXML export and re-import. If so, I would be grateful if you could e-mail the original Finale file to me off-list so we can see what we can do to improve things in a future release. I hope this works well for you! Best regards, Michael Good Recordare LLC www.recordare.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More drum grooves?
On 2010/01/03, at 11:35, Craig Parmerlee wrote: > My only interest in the realistic playback is to help me catch errors and > improve the flow of the arrangements. I am the same way, but I never wanted drum part to playback for this purpose. I mute them. > I suppose a top flight drummer is supposed to know how to play a "bossa with > 2-3 son clave", but I'd rather just write it out for them so there is no > confusion. I hope I am not offending you, but drummers I work with will scream if they see bossa and clave in the same sentence. It will screw their time feel badly. If you are trying to write bossa with emphasis, I'd specify the style better, i.e., Partito Alto, Afoxé, etc. (granted, they are more like samba - I just realized bossa is bossa!). I only write out drum notation for funk tunes since there isn't much global definition of funk when it comes to synching with bass line. Oh, yea, I sometime write out the bass line for drummer as well :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pearflame&search_type=&aq=f ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More drum grooves?
Craig Parmerlee wrote: > I can make these up for myself from examples in "The Drummer's Bible". I just thought somebody might already have done this. If you (or anyone else) decide to do any drum patterns, feel free to share/upload them on the tips site: http://www.finaletips.nu/ I've created a section in the Download area for this purpose: It's in Plug-ins->Drum Groove Patterns Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] score merging / score corruption / XLM
On Sun, January 3, 2010 12:23 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: > i'm told by the finale support people that the doc i sent them (1 of > 3 parts) is starting to show signs of corruption. erm... it was > created in 1995 in 3.5 and has been brought upwards through several > (non-sequential) versions. support suggests an XML export+import, > whcih can solve many corruption issues. the "best" method i'm told > is to create a new file... hm. merging will not solve corruption. I used to solve merging by saving to ETF. You might do that if you have earlier versions of Finale installed. I would bring ETFs up from 2.2 -> 3.7 -> 2005, and then save the binary. Not sure if that will help the incipient corruption in your case. As for merging, I found the problem to be score expressions that end up on all staves and have to be deleted by hand. My problem a week or so ago involved how to build a score from 30 parts. In case you have similar issues, I solved it by using TGTools Modify Expressions to convert measure to note expressions, then used Patterson Mass Copy to bring what I needed into the new score. Worked great. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] score merging / score corruption / XLM
well, more on the subject to make things clear. it is a reorch for piano trio (vln/vc) from flute, violin/fiddle, guitar, percussion, voice and piano. my plan is: 1) add a new violin and cello staff to the 3 existing scores and move voices to the trio staves according to composer's list 2) delete all extraneous information from the piano trio staves 3) merge or copy-paste the 3 parts into a new doc 4) delete (via replace) each duplicate expression and articulation manually (ack!), update them to make use of auto-placement 5) clean up the score and generate linked parts once the list of revisions comes in i am in a serious crunch, so trying to make sure the work goes as quickly as possible. i have not done extensive copy-paste in several years and have never really merged documents, although things seem MUCH smoother in F2010 than i remember in previous versions. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] score merging / score corruption / XLM
im about to merge 3 docs into a new one. i'm told by the finale support people that the doc i sent them (1 of 3 parts) is starting to show signs of corruption. erm... it was created in 1995 in 3.5 and has been brought upwards through several (non-sequential) versions. support suggests an XML export+import, whcih can solve many corruption issues. the "best" method i'm told is to create a new file... hm. merging will not solve corruption. Merging documents will not remove this corruption. Copying and pasting and MusicXML are good alternatives to creating a new file. this will be my first time merging multiple docs (either score merger or copy/paste-insert) and i am of course going to RTFM but any tips of things to do or not do that might not be clear from reading the documentation would be appreciated. has anyone else had a similar situation and worked with XML? i haven't used it yet at all so really have no clue. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: harp notation
At 5:59 PM -0800 1/2/10, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Yup, John - I'm a harpist but in a bit of a time crunch at the moment. The described effect certainly IS possible and quite easy to accomplish; Thanks for your authoritative explanation, Les. I wasn't too far off, which is fairly amazing. So it sounds like the effect can be produced by a very skilled player--or by a rank beginner! Sort of like getting a very high squeak out of a clarinet!! Interesting how beginners' mistakes become part of an instrument's technique! John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html "We never play anything the same way once." Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More drum grooves?
Maybe I should describe more completely what I'm trying to accomplish. I often write charts for combos or big bands. For me, Finale is all about getting the notation clear for the live performance. My only interest in the realistic playback is to help me catch errors and improve the flow of the arrangements. I am definitely NOT looking for realistic drum parts and definitely not human-sounding fills. I'm looking for exactly the OPPOSITE of that. If there is a style change (say from rock to funk), I'll write a bar or two in the drum set part so the drummer knows what style we're looking for, then he's on his own. From there, I only write important punches. The Drum Groove feature is what I need. But I need a collection of simplified style examples. Some of the ones in the standard list are useful, but there are probably 15 or 20 other common styles that an arranger would want to show from time to time. I suppose a top flight drummer is supposed to know how to play a "bossa with 2-3 son clave", but I'd rather just write it out for them so there is no confusion. I can make these up for myself from examples in "The Drummer's Bible". I just thought somebody might already have done this. Moreover, it would be really great if FinaleMusic would supply ALL THE EXAMPLES from The Drummer's Bible. Thanks for listening. On 1/3/2010 5:35 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: I haven't bothered (speaking for myself) but I made excellent use of the MIBAC rhythm section generator before it was dumped a few versions ago. The advantages of the late lamented MIBAC plugin were that it would put in stylistic variations and fill and breaks, reading the punches that you had included in your rhythm parts. The drum groove plugin makes feeble guesses and gets it wrong most of the time, so I haven't used it much at all. The Rhythm Generator is still available on FinWin2010: Scoring and Arranging->Composer's Assistant->Rhythm Generator... Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Numeric keypad for Mac
On Sun Jan 3, at SundayJan 3 8:37 AM, Gerhard Torges wrote: Hello Christopher! Am 31.12.2009 um 06:19 schrieb Christopher Smith : I got the cheapest one that Future Shop sold, at $19, a generic USB numeric keypad. But, I have to remember to hit NumLock every time I plug it in (or else the keys don't do what I expect), and it doesn't have the / key (for ties in Speedy) nor the clear key that I miss so much on my laptop. You could use Marco Polo (http://www.symonds.id.au/ marcopolo/),which would detect the keyboard plugged in and "press Numlock" (performed as a simple script) for you. Or you could use Ukelele (http://scripts.sil.org/Ukelele) to create an entirely new keyboard layout for you USB number block keyboard, featuring all the desired character codes you need. Good luck! Gerhard Heh, heh! Very good! Thank you. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Numeric keypad for Mac
Hello Christopher! Am 31.12.2009 um 06:19 schrieb Christopher Smith >: I got the cheapest one that Future Shop sold, at $19, a generic USB numeric keypad. But, I have to remember to hit NumLock every time I plug it in (or else the keys don't do what I expect), and it doesn't have the / key (for ties in Speedy) nor the clear key that I miss so much on my laptop. You could use Marco Polo (http://www.symonds.id.au/marcopolo/),which would detect the keyboard plugged in and "press Numlock" (performed as a simple script) for you. Or you could use Ukelele (http://scripts.sil.org/Ukelele) to create an entirely new keyboard layout for you USB number block keyboard, featuring all the desired character codes you need. Good luck! Gerhard ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More drum grooves?
Christopher Smith wrote: I haven't bothered (speaking for myself) but I made excellent use of the MIBAC rhythm section generator before it was dumped a few versions ago. The advantages of the late lamented MIBAC plugin were that it would put in stylistic variations and fill and breaks, reading the punches that you had included in your rhythm parts. The drum groove plugin makes feeble guesses and gets it wrong most of the time, so I haven't used it much at all. The Rhythm Generator is still available on FinWin2010: Scoring and Arranging->Composer's Assistant->Rhythm Generator... Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: harp notation
Yup, jef - you've got it! The ONLY thing I would add is that in my estimation, I think it would certainly be possible to notate AND produce (say) discernable quarter tones but it would be pretty damned near impossible to attempt -pitched smaller microtones. Non-specific flat or sharp microtones, sure - but if you want something really specificbeyond quarter tonesI don't think so. It's the mechanics of any particular harp. I think you'd have to have a pretty damned talented pedal foot - with pretty amazing control. As for the buzz - again: specific harps and specific players - for example, when producing harmonics on a harp, you kinda have to discover the sweet spot of individual strings. And so it is with buzz and harps: easy to do on some harps (particularly those in need of regulation) and some pedal so smoothly you really have to time your pedal changes with your hands to create buzz. That said, it is easier to produce buzz if you're pedaling while simultaneously sounding the string(s). So re: your question about pedal change with or without noise or buzz? Basic rule of thumb is that if the pedal is ill-coordinated with the plucking of the string, OR a 'clunky' pedal job: easy to buzz. And the exact opposite can also be produced: the whole point of the 'Harpo trill' is that the string is plucked and THEN the pedal is (usually rapidly) 'pumped' through one half-step alteration several times: if done carefully, no buzz at all. Hope that helps. My 1921 Lyon & Healy is in need of regulation, but gave me NO difficulty at all in producing the effects discussed aboveand the instrument is (incidentally) the very harp upon which Harpo took hundreds of lessons with Mildred Dilling in the 1920s while he and his brothers were doing 'The Cocoanuts' and 'Animal Crackers' on Broadway - as Mildred told me. After the show, he'd run to her apartment, have a late dinner and an informal harp lesson. The stories about him being completely, totally self-taught? Only nearly correctalthough he - to the very end of his life - never did learn to read music. But whatever: he was a phenomenal harpist and created technique that became 'legit'. Les Marsden (209) 966-6988 Cell: (559) 708-6027 (Emergency only) 7145 Snyder Creek Road Mariposa, CA 95338-9641 Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra Music and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! Mariposa County Planning Commissioner, District 5 Past President, The Economic Development Corporation of Mariposa County http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html Marsden Marx Pages: http://tinyurl.com/ygpj7og - Original Message - From: SN jef chippewa To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: harp notation les, thanks for the details, very much appreciated!!! i am in fact aware of the mechanical aspects of the instrument but am trying to better understand the actual results and what can actually be controlled and to what degree. >Now - in practice: of course it's possible to micro-tone any pitch >between a string's flat and sharp positions: done carefully (and if >the harp is well-regulated) there's no buzz - but the harpist CAN >deliberately create a buzz EVEN while slowly altering the pitch from >(say) fully flatted to natural. Microtones, you name it: you can >do it. are you saying that (assuming proper prep time) i could ask for any 1/4-tone, 1/6-tone, 1/8-tone? or are the smaller *raised* inflections easier to perform and control than tempered 1/4-tones? since the pedal is mechanical, in the case of a well-regulated harp, how could the performer intentionally create the buzz? it would seem to me that there HAS to be a point at which (for mechanical reasons) the pins come into contact with the strings as the pedal is pressed and that beyond this point (raising the pitch) the performer can no longer prevent the buzz. i.e. after a certain pitch increase, the control of the buzz is directly related to the pitch alterations to the string. this makes me think: - slight pitch inflections upwards can easily be done without noise, up to perhaps a 1/4-tone and beyond, according to the make of the instrument, regulation of the haro and control of the performer - above a certain point (varies according to same reasons in previous point) -- once the buzz starts - the pitch variation will always be accompanied by noise, and this noise can to a certain extent be controled in tendem with pitch fluctuations effected by the pedal except you say that a clean gliss is possible wth no noise! sorry to sound dense, but can you explain the separate conditions for a gliss with and without noise? >Matter of fact, Harpo Marx (with whose technique I have more than a >little familiarity!) ah! his rachmaninov technique? >Done slowly, ya h
