Re: [Finale] ¾ in finale expression tool?

2009-12-12 Thread SN jef chippewa



Is it a free font that can be downloaded from the net?


nope.  RotisSansSerif 55

Or do you have any utility to for check font consistency? There 
might be a slightly broken font or glyph that triggers something due 
to the way Finale draws things.


hm, i checked it in FontExplorer, and had to check "show missing 
characters" to have the symbols show.  very strange, it works in 
other apps.  well, it is an older version for sure of the typeface 
and one of these days when i can spare a few hundred bucks i'll buy 
the professional rotis family...


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Re: [Finale] ¾ in finale expression tool?

2009-12-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sat, December 12, 2009 9:02 am, SN jef chippewa wrote:
> i can't get the lessthan/equalto symbol [¾]
> (opt-u mac) to show in an expression, is anyone
> able to do this?

It might be in the officially unassigned area. In your message it appears as a
3/4 symbol on my PC.

Dennis


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[Finale] ¾ in finale expression tool?

2009-12-12 Thread SN jef chippewa


i can't get the lessthan/equalto symbol [¾] 
(opt-u mac) to show in an expression, is anyone 
able to do this?  fin2010.



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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool question

2008-10-19 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yeah, thanks. Right after I posted the question, I found the box in  
question. I knew Finale had to have a solution for that particular  
problem.


Cheers,

Dean

On Oct 18, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:


Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
When I want to assign an expression, say, a rit. to all staves, I  
properly get handles on them all. Now, if I want to adjust one or two

of those expressions, is there any way  to move them one at a time
rather than when one is selected, all are selected and ergo, all are
adjusted simultaneously.  This happens to be a large Band Score, and,
naturally, some of the expressions are in the way of, say, a Picc.
part. There must be a way, but I've not found it yet.
Thanks in advance,
Dean


In "expression assignment" (I think) there's a check box for  
"individual positioning."  I rough out the placement, then go back,  
check individual positioning, then fine tune.


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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool question

2008-10-18 Thread Carl Dershem

Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
When I want to assign an expression, say, a rit. to all staves, I 
properly get handles on them all. Now, if I want to adjust one or two

of those expressions, is there any way  to move them one at a time
rather than when one is selected, all are selected and ergo, all are
adjusted simultaneously.  This happens to be a large Band Score, and,
naturally, some of the expressions are in the way of, say, a Picc.
part. There must be a way, but I've not found it yet.

Thanks in advance,

Dean


In "expression assignment" (I think) there's a check box for "individual 
positioning."  I rough out the placement, then go back, check individual 
positioning, then fine tune.


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[Finale] Expression Tool question

2008-10-18 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
When I want to assign an expression, say, a rit. to all staves, I  
properly get handles on them all. Now, if I want to adjust one or two  
of those expressions, is there any way  to move them one at a time  
rather than when one is selected, all are selected and ergo, all are  
adjusted simultaneously.  This happens to be a large Band Score, and,  
naturally, some of the expressions are in the way of, say, a Picc.  
part. There must be a way, but I've not found it yet.


Thanks in advance,

Dean


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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool Aberration

2007-06-04 Thread Rich Caldwell


On Jun 3, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

On Jun 3, 2007, at 8:16 PM, Rich Caldwell wrote:
I mentioned a similar problem on MM's forum a couple months ago,  
but got no response from other users - perhaps my issue is really  
a feature.  If a staff is reduced using the resize tool and note  
positioning's note alignment point is defined as "horizontal click  
position," then the expression shows up to the left of where you  
click on that staff. The distance it's displaced depends on how  
much the staff is reduced.


Is this what you are seeing, or is it something different?


YES! I can confirm this exactly the way you describe it in FinMac  
2007c. I thought it might be a screen artifact of some sort, kind  
of like those leaping articulations, corrected by a command-D  
redraw screen, but no, they stay put.


However, hitting "clear" puts the expression in the correct place.  
This makes me think that the bug is adding some additional offset  
to the positioning, if I can clear it to default positioning  
immediately (or not immediately! All the expressions I entered that  
were displaced moved to the entered position when I selected them  
and hit Clear (I think this would be backspace on a PC.)


Ah!  Thanks for that tip. I'll try it next time I need to do a score  
with different sized staves.


Rich
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RE: [Finale] Expression Tool Aberration

2007-06-04 Thread Gerry Kirk
Thanks for the Expression Tool aberration suggestions. (I was in  
hopes someone would tell me I had a faulty FIN-07, or to “repair  
permissions,” or some such sage advice. Oh well. I’ll just have to  
put up with this little anomaly.)


No, Christopher, I did not reset measure numbering. In fact, the last  
4 arrangements I composed were only 100-160-measure settings of  
marches for trombone sextet —quite straight-forward FIN projects.


Rich, you may have something, in that I did re-size my scores in each  
of those arrangements. (So I guess you are suggesting I inform MM,  
and then just live with the jump—can do.)


And, Christopher, I will try your second solution of using “clear”  
next time I experience this to see if that solves the Expressions  
Tool’s displacement quandary.


Thanks, all!

Gerry
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[Finale] Expression Tool Aberration

2007-06-04 Thread Jonathan Smith


Anyone else experiencing the following aberration when using the  
Expression Tool in Mac-07? I create an expression (such as a  
rehearsal number, or cresc.) and place it in my score, and it  
"jumps" to a location other than where I have pointed. It is  
sometimes misplaced as much as one staff, or one measure.


I then delete it, and re-place it, and it is fine.

Just an observation.

Gerry


Yes, I get this all the time. Great feature.

It only occurs on the first entry of a score expression.

The text always jumps down a couple of staves from where the initial  
click point was.


The 2nd and consecutive times you apply it, it will always go in  
correctly.


Hitting clear does not always clear the position back to default  
(certainly not if it is a score exp. as opposed to a staff exp.)


I still have to find a fix, I've tried respacing, updating, un- 
updating, deleting notes, starting with blank file etc, etc. and it  
always behaves the same way.


Guess we have to wait until Finale 2010 for an update fix.

Jonathan




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RE: [Finale] Expression Tool Aberration

2007-06-03 Thread Richard Yates
>> Expression Tool in Mac-07? I create an expression (such as a 
>rehearsal 
>> number, or cresc.) and place it in my score, and it "jumps" to a 
>> location other than where I have pointed. It is sometimes 
>misplaced as 
>> much as one staff, or one measure.
>
>I mentioned a similar problem on MM's forum a couple months 
>ago, but got no response from other users - perhaps my issue 
>is really a feature.  If a staff is reduced using the resize 
>tool and note positioning's note alignment point is defined as 
>"horizontal click position," then the expression shows up to 
>the left of where you click on that staff. The distance it's 
>displaced depends on how much the staff is reduced.

It has been a known bug for several years. Ironically, it appeared at least
five years ago, was fixed in one version, and then returned. The 'jump'
occurs vertically, too. MM ignores it requests to fix it. Use system
reduction instead staff reduction and the vertical error does not happen. I
don't know if this avoids the horizontal problem.

Richard Yates

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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool Aberration

2007-06-03 Thread Christopher Smith


On Jun 3, 2007, at 8:16 PM, Rich Caldwell wrote:


On Jun 3, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Gerry Kirk wrote:
Anyone else experiencing the following aberration when using the  
Expression Tool in Mac-07? I create an expression (such as a  
rehearsal number, or cresc.) and place it in my score, and it  
"jumps" to a location other than where I have pointed. It is  
sometimes misplaced as much as one staff, or one measure.


I mentioned a similar problem on MM's forum a couple months ago,  
but got no response from other users - perhaps my issue is really a  
feature.  If a staff is reduced using the resize tool and note  
positioning's note alignment point is defined as "horizontal click  
position," then the expression shows up to the left of where you  
click on that staff. The distance it's displaced depends on how  
much the staff is reduced.


Is this what you are seeing, or is it something different?



YES! I can confirm this exactly the way you describe it in FinMac  
2007c. I thought it might be a screen artifact of some sort, kind of  
like those leaping articulations, corrected by a command-D redraw  
screen, but no, they stay put.


However, hitting "clear" puts the expression in the correct place.  
This makes me think that the bug is adding some additional offset to  
the positioning, if I can clear it to default positioning immediately  
(or not immediately! All the expressions I entered that were  
displaced moved to the entered position when I selected them and hit  
Clear (I think this would be backspace on a PC.)


Christopher



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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool Aberration

2007-06-03 Thread Rich Caldwell

On Jun 3, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Gerry Kirk wrote:
Anyone else experiencing the following aberration when using the  
Expression Tool in Mac-07? I create an expression (such as a  
rehearsal number, or cresc.) and place it in my score, and it  
"jumps" to a location other than where I have pointed. It is  
sometimes misplaced as much as one staff, or one measure.


I mentioned a similar problem on MM's forum a couple months ago, but  
got no response from other users - perhaps my issue is really a  
feature.  If a staff is reduced using the resize tool and note  
positioning's note alignment point is defined as "horizontal click  
position," then the expression shows up to the left of where you  
click on that staff. The distance it's displaced depends on how much  
the staff is reduced.


Is this what you are seeing, or is it something different?

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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool Aberration

2007-06-03 Thread Christopher Smith


On Jun 3, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Gerry Kirk wrote:


Hi Finale Gurus:

Anyone else experiencing the following aberration when using the  
Expression Tool in Mac-07? I create an expression (such as a  
rehearsal number, or cresc.) and place it in my score, and it  
"jumps" to a location other than where I have pointed. It is  
sometimes misplaced as much as one staff, or one measure.


I then delete it, and re-place it, and it is fine.


Hmm, nope, I never have had this happen.

I HAVE had a few unexpected things happen with placement between  
parts and score, but that was because of my lack of comprehension  
about how linked expressions work, not any fault of the program. That  
isn't what you are referring to, are you?


In fact, with the exception of shape expressions not showing their  
handles properly, and not being able to centre-justify text, the  
expression tool is one of the tools that really works well and  
consistently for me.


Actually, one thing DOES come to mind. Have you set a measure not to  
be included in measure numbering? This, in conjunction with offset  
measure regions, causes odd things to happen with measures, like two  
measures get a double bar instead of just the one you clicked on. I  
suggest that you NEVER unclick the "include in measure numbering" box  
until they fix it.


Christopher


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[Finale] Expression Tool Aberration

2007-06-03 Thread Gerry Kirk

Hi Finale Gurus:

Anyone else experiencing the following aberration when using the  
Expression Tool in Mac-07? I create an expression (such as a  
rehearsal number, or cresc.) and place it in my score, and it "jumps"  
to a location other than where I have pointed. It is sometimes  
misplaced as much as one staff, or one measure.


I then delete it, and re-place it, and it is fine.

Just an observation.

Gerry
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Re: [Finale] Expression tool

2006-12-07 Thread Aaron Sherber

At 08:45 PM 12/7/2006, Will Denayer wrote:
>I do have another question: if you open the expression tool and scroll
>down the list, there are some expressions - tremelo, harmonics and so
>on - which can only be used when HP is off.

The reason for this is that these expressions are defined to send 
certain data to GPO. The whole point of HP, though, is to take 
ordinary expressions with no playback definition and "interpret" 
them, adding the playback definition behind the scenes. So if HP is 
off, you can use these defined expressions to get the desired effect. 
If HP is on, then a plain old expression that says arco or pizz or 
whatever will trigger the effect the same way.


>How can I put HP off?

You can turn it off for the entire piece by clicking on the speaker 
icon on the playback toolbar and setting Human Playback Style to 
None. You can turn it off for a section of a piece by creating an 
expression and defining it for playback to turn HP off (one of the 
options on the Playback tab of the Expression Designer).


>Suppose I am writing for a violin KS, will the play back give me
>harmonics if I write them? 

If you have HP on, then I think just writing with harmonic notation 
will give correct playback. If HP is off, then you need to attach the 
special harmonics expression to get the same playback.


Aaron.

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[Finale] Expression tool

2006-12-07 Thread Will Denayer
Dear All, 
Thank you very much for helping me out. I will buy more memory if possible, we 
will see on Saturday. I copied the music I was talking about to a new document 
for 3 violins and 2 celli (instead of sections) and now it plays back normally. 
I do have another question: if you open the expression tool and scroll down the 
list, there are some expressions - tremelo, harmonics and so on - which can 
only be used when HP is off. How can I put HP off? Suppose I am writing for a 
violin KS, will the play back give me harmonics if I write them? 
I bought two CD's, one is Fragmente and hay que caminar by Luigi Nono; the 
other is a symphony by Sofia Gubaidulina. So far I'm disappointed in both - I 
had expected it to be much better. 
Respectfully, Will 




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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread Christopher Smith

George Ports wrote:
Is there a font to use in the Text Tool for Crescendo?
There are a few hairpins in the JazzFont that might serve, in varying 
lengths. I don't like them, as I find them too bold even for me (they 
look like they were drawn with a Sharpie pen) but you might find them 
better than exporting a Smartshape hairpin as a graphic, then importing 
it back in.

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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread Chuck Israels
They are updated, and there are a number of useful things in this package.  The chord fonts are the best I've found, and the "soft" slashes, one, two and four measure repeats, and the rhythmic notation that are part of the chord font are also most appealing to me.  I am now using them exclusively.  The hairpins and smart shapes are also very good.  There are also things I find not so useful in the kind of things I do.  A lot of Bill's things are designed for saving time at recording sessions and look a little excessive in more normal situations.  You can buy the chord fonts alone, and I recommend them highly.

Chuck

On Sep 9, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:

Bill Duncan has a hairpins font that I use quite
frequently. His Finale Productivity package include
other nifty fonts that I get lots of use out of.
Although I don't know if they've been updated for OS
X, I've been using them on 10.2.8 withought any
issues. Check his website for more info. 

http://www.gwmp.com/

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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
George Ports wrote:
Is there a font to use in the Text Tool for Crescendo?  

Well, actually, it happens that there is a text tool [font[ for 
crescendo and for other smart shapes; the bad news is that it is not 
neither a True type, or a postscript  font.

However, as useful as I would find it, and despite the fact that I've 
requested it as an added feature for a couple of releases now, I don't 
think it's possible to attach a smart shape to a non staff item.   I 
think the best way I can think of to achieve what you're looking to do 
is to copy the text into a new document, create a staff in that 
document, make the crescendo or decrescendo mark you want in the copy, 
draw a selection box around the item, export the selection as a graphic, 
and place the exported graphic into your original document.

Then, just perhaps, I might persuade you to send a feature request to 
the development team to add a feature to smart shapes that they coud be 
attached to non-musical items. 

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[Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread Ryan Beard
Bill Duncan has a hairpins font that I use quite
frequently. His Finale Productivity package include
other nifty fonts that I get lots of use out of.
Although I don't know if they've been updated for OS
X, I've been using them on 10.2.8 withought any
issues. Check his website for more info. 

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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread George Ports
Yesthat is correct concerning attaching the hairpin shape to a page
in Finale 2003a that doesn't have any music or note to attach it to.
George

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>
> On Sep 9, 2004, at 10:51 AM, JD wrote:
>
> > With the Text Tool you can use any font of your choosing.  So I'm not
> > sure I
> > understand your question.
>
> I assume he's trying to draw the hairpin shape.  You know, the one that
> looks sort of like "<" or ">".
>
> So the question is how to access the shape expression without having
> any music to attach it to.
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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread George Ports
Couldn't find a font for a crescendo or decrescendo in the Maestro fonts and
wondered if there are any common fonts that might have what I need.
George

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> on 9/9/04 7:44 AM, George Ports at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Is there a font to use in the Text Tool for Crescendo?  How can I get an
> > Expression into the Text Box?
>
> With the Text Tool you can use any font of your choosing.  So I'm not sure
I
> understand your question.
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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread Mark D Lew
On Sep 9, 2004, at 10:51 AM, JD wrote:
With the Text Tool you can use any font of your choosing.  So I'm not 
sure I
understand your question.
I assume he's trying to draw the hairpin shape.  You know, the one that 
looks sort of like "<" or ">".

So the question is how to access the shape expression without having 
any music to attach it to.

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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread JD
on 9/9/04 7:44 AM, George Ports at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there a font to use in the Text Tool for Crescendo?  How can I get an
> Expression into the Text Box?

With the Text Tool you can use any font of your choosing.  So I'm not sure I
understand your question.

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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread George Ports
Is there a font to use in the Text Tool for Crescendo?  How can I get an
Expression into the Text Box?
George

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> on 9/9/04 6:05 AM, George Ports at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Is there a way to get a crescendo or (and) a decrescendo from the
expression
> > tool on a page that has some text but, the staffs have been removed?
This
> > page was created from Windows Finale 2003a. It's a page that has some
text and
> > I need to put in the above with it.
>
> How about using the Text Tool.
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Re: [Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread JD
on 9/9/04 6:05 AM, George Ports at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there a way to get a crescendo or (and) a decrescendo from the expression
> tool on a page that has some text but, the staffs have been removed?  This
> page was created from Windows Finale 2003a. It's a page that has some text and
> I need to put in the above with it.

How about using the Text Tool.

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[Finale] Expression Tool

2004-09-09 Thread George Ports



Is there a way to get a crescendo or (and) a 
decrescendo from the _expression_ tool on a page that has some text but, the 
staffs have been removed?  This page was created from Windows Finale 2003a. 
It's a page that has some text and I need to put in the above with 
it.
    Would surely appreciate any 
help.
George Ports
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