[Fink-users] Compiling on 10.2.3 with path = /usr/local

[Matthew Herberg]

I know it's not recommended, but I can't install the latest fink source 
package under /usr/local. I've even cleared /usr/local entirely, in 
order to ensure there are no conflicts arising from within the folder. 
I can compile all the base packages if I chose /sw, but not if I chose 
/usr/local. Here is the error I get, after it successfully downloads 
the base packages and compiles and configures from gettext to bzip, but 
fails on libiconv:

...
gcc -O -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -I../lib 
-I/usr/local/include ./iconv.c -o .libs/iconv  -L/usr/local/lib 
-L../lib/.libs -liconv
./iconv.c: In function `main':
./iconv.c:195: `LC_CTYPE' undeclared (first use in this function)
./iconv.c:195: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
./iconv.c:195: for each function it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [iconv] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
compiling libiconv-1.7-5 failed

Any idea what's wrong and why it works if I chose /sw? I can post more 
of the terminal output if it will help.

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[Fink-users] WTFO?

[Harry Erwin]

My laptop can see the package updates, but my desktop machine cannot 
(error code 7 in curl-ssl). And the fink-users list hasn't had any 
activity since mid-day Sunday. Any clues?
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[Fink-users] Apple X11 / system-xfree86 problem

[Sébastien Maret]

Hi there,
I replaced my xfree86 server by the Apple one. When I try to install 
the system-xfree86 package, fink says that the installation is 
incomplete:

[mac-6:~] bastien% fink install system-xfree86
sudo /sw/bin/fink  install system-xfree86
Information about 2033 packages read in 2 seconds.

The following package will be installed or updated:
 system-xfree86
dpkg -i /sw/fink/debs/system-xfree86_4.2-5_darwin-powerpc.deb
(Lecture de la base de données... 30488 fichiers et répertoires déjà 
installés.)
Dépaquetage de system-xfree86 (à partir de 
.../system-xfree86_4.2-5_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...

- found apple library
- found X plugin includes
- found /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
- found /usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb
- found /usr/X11R6/bin/rman
- missing /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.dylib
- missing /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.dylib
- missing /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.dylib
- missing /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h

Your XFree86 installation is missing or incomplete.  Please make sure 
you have
an XFree86 release installed and retry the installation of the 
system-xfree86
package.

The following XFree86 software is compatible with system-xfree86:

  XonX (from the XFree86 Project):
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=18034

  Apple X11:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/

Press a key to continue.

dpkg : erreur de traitement de 
/sw/fink/debs/system-xfree86_4.2-5_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install) :
 le sous-processus pre-installation script a retourné une erreur de 
sortie d'état 1
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
 /sw/fink/debs/system-xfree86_4.2-5_darwin-powerpc.deb
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't install package system-xfree86-4.2-5

Help anybody ?
Thanks
Seb

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Re: [Fink-users] Apple X11 / system-xfree86 problem

[June Van Dyke]

On 1/20/03 8:39 AM, "Sébastien Maret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Help anybody ?

Did you install the SDK along with the base packages?
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Re: [Fink-users] Apple X11 / system-xfree86 problem

[Sébastien Maret]

Did you install the SDK along with the base packages?


OK, I forgot that. It works well now.
Thanks for your help.
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[Fink-users] tip: getting rid of xtools

[Lawrence Paulson]

I installed Apple's X11, but fink would not let me install 
system-xfree86.  It said "you appear to have xtools installed", even 
though I had been using OroborOSX for many months.

It was looking like I'd have to wipe all of /usr/X11R6.  But it turns 
out you only have to erase this directory:

	/usr/X11R6/lib/tenon

Perhaps fink's error message could include this tip?

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[Fink-users] need make 3.80

[Gregory Seidman]

I have a build system that depends on some of the features in GNU make
3.80, but MacOS X 10.1.5 (which I am still running) and Fink (even
unstable) still have only 3.79.1. I'd like to make a .deb from the latest
make source so that I can manage it with Fink, but I don't know how to go
about it. Any thoughts?

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Re: [Fink-users] WTFO?

[Alexander Hansen]

It looks like -users was slow last night, so that's probably OK.

Can you give an expansion of your curl error, i.e. try another
selfupdate-cvs and paste in the actual output?

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Harry Erwin wrote:

> My laptop can see the package updates, but my desktop machine cannot
> (error code 7 in curl-ssl). And the fink-users list hasn't had any
> activity since mid-day Sunday. Any clues?
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Re: [Fink-users] tip: getting rid of xtools

[Alexander Hansen]

That's good to know:  someone had an earlier post where system-xfree86 was
complaining about Xtools, and wound up flushing out all of /usr/X11R6.

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Lawrence Paulson wrote:

> I installed Apple's X11, but fink would not let me install
> system-xfree86.  It said "you appear to have xtools installed", even
> though I had been using OroborOSX for many months.
>
> It was looking like I'd have to wipe all of /usr/X11R6.  But it turns
> out you only have to erase this directory:
>
>   /usr/X11R6/lib/tenon
>
> Perhaps fink's error message could include this tip?
>
> Larry Paulson
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Re: [Fink-users] WTFO?

[Harry Erwin]

It's OK now. Slowness at sourceforge combined with a hosed proxy server 
at this end.

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 03:09  pm, Alexander Hansen wrote:

It looks like -users was slow last night, so that's probably OK.

Can you give an expansion of your curl error, i.e. try another
selfupdate-cvs and paste in the actual output?

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Cambridge, MA  02139-4213

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Harry Erwin wrote:


My laptop can see the package updates, but my desktop machine cannot
(error code 7 in curl-ssl). And the fink-users list hasn't had any
activity since mid-day Sunday. Any clues?
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[Fink-users] problem installing control-center (req'd for xmms)?

[Michael Bovee]

Dear Finkers,
I am trying to get xmms working, and it depends on dozens of additional 
packages that I hadn't previously installed. I have hit a temporary 
snag regarding control-center. After compiling for a while on this 
extensive list of packages, I noticed control-center shows up in the 
Fink Commander list as 'archived' only, whereas control-center-dev and 
control-center-shlibs (1.4.0.5-3) are current and installed. Fink 
Commander balks at a segfault on scrollkeeper-update (and a 
scrollkeeper-update.crash.log is also generated).

Here is a bit of Fink Commander's output, where I have tried to 
re-install control-center:

Preparing to replace control-center 1.4.0.5-3 (using 
.../control-center_1.4.0.5-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Registering /sw/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf
Unpacking replacement control-center ...
Setting up control-center (1.4.0.5-3) ...
Registering /sw/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf
Updating /sw/share/omf/control-center/control-center-C.omf
/sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/control-center.postinst: line 6: 13198 
Segmentation fault  scrollkeeper-update
dpkg: error processing control-center (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139
Errors were encountered while processing:
 control-center
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't install package control-center-1.4.0.5-3

Maybe I just need to remove the archived control-center and try again? 
Maybe it downloaded with errors and I need to delete it and download 
again? I don't know about this "scrollkeeper-update," its not a listed 
package per se, but "scrollkeeper" shows current (0.3.11-4) and 
installed. (Even though I'm new at this, I have been installing 
everything from source to hopefully avoid other kinds of problems that 
might be more difficult for me to troubleshoot. I have 'assumed' .)

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[Fink-users] AutoRaise doesn't work?

[Daniel M. Bikel]

Has anyone gotten AutoRaise to work with any X implementation (Apple's or
fink's) or any window manager?  I use fvwm, and while focus follows the
mouse, as I have it set to do, the AutoRaise feature has never worked (I
know this feature annoys most people, but I actually like it).

Thanks,
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[Fink-users] Will Apple give Fink a hard time?

[KaOs]

I wonder if Apple will make it impossible for Fink to continue to develop
as it has by the introduction of developer tool changes. The reason I ask
this is that the EULA forbids the "patching" of add-ons to the "embedded"
Mac apps for OS X. Apple is, in other words, giving independent developers
a hard time. They support OpenDarwin, but they do not even mention Fink as
an alternative. It seems to me that there is little, if any, cooperation
of Apple to the Fink Project. The recent "upgrade" that put the Fink
project on hold for months eloquently demonstrates that.., as does the
recent choice of an inferior browser as "default".
So I would like to know what is the reality of the Fink situation in
relation to Apple.., and should I begin thinking of a complete Debian
PPC Woody "take-over" install on my hard drive?

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Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple give Fink a hard time?

[David Bishop]

Not to lump KaOs in the same boat as some other recent emailer *cough*, but 
what is it about this list the attracts paranoid delusionals?  Just 
wondering.

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Re: [Fink-users] problem installing control-center (req'd for xmms)?

[Alexander Hansen]

The "archived" status of control center is because you initially installed
packages that only needed control-center-dev and control-center-shlibs;
all three packages are generated in the build process, but only -dev and
-shlibs got installed.  This is normal.

"scrollkeeper-update" is an executable installed by the scrollkeeper
package.

I'd suggest rebuilding scrollkeeper.

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On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Michael Bovee wrote:

> Dear Finkers,
> I am trying to get xmms working, and it depends on dozens of additional
> packages that I hadn't previously installed. I have hit a temporary
> snag regarding control-center. After compiling for a while on this
> extensive list of packages, I noticed control-center shows up in the
> Fink Commander list as 'archived' only, whereas control-center-dev and
> control-center-shlibs (1.4.0.5-3) are current and installed. Fink
> Commander balks at a segfault on scrollkeeper-update (and a
> scrollkeeper-update.crash.log is also generated).
>
> Here is a bit of Fink Commander's output, where I have tried to
> re-install control-center:
>
> Preparing to replace control-center 1.4.0.5-3 (using
> .../control-center_1.4.0.5-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
> Registering /sw/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf
> Unpacking replacement control-center ...
> Setting up control-center (1.4.0.5-3) ...
> Registering /sw/share/omf/control-center/control-center-eu.omf
> Updating /sw/share/omf/control-center/control-center-C.omf
> /sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/control-center.postinst: line 6: 13198
> Segmentation fault  scrollkeeper-update
> dpkg: error processing control-center (--install):
>   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>   control-center
> ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
> Failed: can't install package control-center-1.4.0.5-3
>
> Maybe I just need to remove the archived control-center and try again?
> Maybe it downloaded with errors and I need to delete it and download
> again? I don't know about this "scrollkeeper-update," its not a listed
> package per se, but "scrollkeeper" shows current (0.3.11-4) and
> installed. (Even though I'm new at this, I have been installing
> everything from source to hopefully avoid other kinds of problems that
> might be more difficult for me to troubleshoot. I have 'assumed' .)
>
> Thanks
> --Michael
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Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple give Fink a hard time?

[Benjamin Reed]

KaOs wrote:

I wonder if Apple will make it impossible for Fink to continue to develop
as it has by the introduction of developer tool changes. The reason I ask
this is that the EULA forbids the "patching" of add-ons to the "embedded"
Mac apps for OS X. Apple is, in other words, giving independent developers
a hard time. They support OpenDarwin, but they do not even mention Fink as
an alternative. It seems to me that there is little, if any, cooperation


I'm not sure what you're really asking.  Fink's policy is to not 
overwrite and/or patch stuff that comes with the system anyways.  The 
most we do is override it with a newer version, but it all stays in 
Fink's tree...

of Apple to the Fink Project. The recent "upgrade" that put the Fink
project on hold for months eloquently demonstrates that.., as does the
recent choice of an inferior browser as "default".


That was not an Apple-specific issue.  All of the Linux distributions 
that use GCC went through the same troubles in the move to gcc3 from 
gcc2.  It was a GCC toolchain bug, not actually "Jaguar" specific.  It 
was just easier to refer to the 10.1 or Jaguar versions of fink than to 
say "what version of GCC do you have?"

So I would like to know what is the reality of the Fink situation in
relation to Apple.., and should I begin thinking of a complete Debian
PPC Woody "take-over" install on my hard drive?


To be truthful, a number of us Fink developers work pretty closely with 
the OpenDarwin team, so they're perfectly aware what goes on in Fink, 
and vice-versa.  You have to be more specific when you say "Apple". 
Apple is a huge company, and many of its parts don't know what's going 
on in the other parts of the company.

I really don't think there's reason to be paranoid.  We don't rely on 
Apple for anything other than having a base system and developer tools. 
Going by their direction, it's not like they're going to *remove* UNIX 
features we depend on; if anything they've become more compliant with 
the other Open-Source tools as time goes on.



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[Fink-users] tetex-macosx install

[Don Thompson]

Has anyone installed tetex-macosx? I have the installation underway and 
it seems to be taking a significant amount of time. Kpsewhich is the 
process that has been running like the Energizer Bunny.

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[Fink-users] Perl/Tk

[David Goldman]

Newbie question - Is there a simple way to get Perl/Tk to work under 
10.2.3?

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Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple give Fink a hard time?

[Justin Walker]

It's not the list.  It's Apple.  It's the same on all lists related to 
Apple/Mac.  Something about religion does it :-}.

Regards,

Justin

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*cough*, but
what is it about this list the attracts paranoid delusionals?  Just
wondering.

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Re: [Fink-users] Compiling on 10.2.3 with path = /usr/local

[Kow K]

Since Fink saw many imoprtant chnages drastically, I'm afraid if my 
knowledge about this issue isn't outdated. That said, let me try to 
help you a little bit.

First, how did you try to install your stuff into /usr/local?

When I tried the same thing, I couldn't install Fink into /usr/local 
for base pacakges. The installer didn't follow the symlink /sw --> 
/usr/local I set up beforehand. After installation of base packages, I 
renamed /sw to /usr/local and everything went right thereafter.

For now, it is planned that you can choose an installation directory 
other than /sw at setup stage. It's not availabel yet, but you'll see 
it in a future release.

BTW, do you *REALLY* need to install Fink into /usr/local? If your 
concern is library export and sharing (/sw/lib, /sw/include), you can 
set it up manually with Fink in /sw. For example, here are bash exports 
that enable such interaction:

export CFLAGS="-I/sw/include"
export LDFLAGS="-I/sw/lib"
export CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS
export CPPFLAGS=$CXXFLAGS

Fink web page has an instruction for this.

Cheers,
Kow

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 02:52 AM, Matthew Herberg wrote:

I know it's not recommended, but I can't install the latest fink 
source package under /usr/local. I've even cleared /usr/local 
entirely, in order to ensure there are no conflicts arising from 
within the folder. I can compile all the base packages if I chose /sw, 
but not if I chose /usr/local. Here is the error I get, after it 
successfully downloads the base packages and compiles and configures 
from gettext to bzip, but fails on libiconv:

...
gcc -O -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -I../lib 
-I/usr/local/include ./iconv.c -o .libs/iconv  -L/usr/local/lib 
-L../lib/.libs -liconv
./iconv.c: In function `main':
./iconv.c:195: `LC_CTYPE' undeclared (first use in this function)
./iconv.c:195: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
./iconv.c:195: for each function it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [iconv] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
compiling libiconv-1.7-5 failed

Any idea what's wrong and why it works if I chose /sw? I can post more 
of the terminal output if it will help.

Thanks,
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Re: [Fink-users] Perl/Tk

[Justin Hallett]

enable unstable and fink install tk-pm

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Re: [Fink-users] AutoRaise doesn't work?

[Kow K]

WindowMaker on XDarwin 4.2.1 does it, if you choose. (No, I'm not using 
it).

Kow

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Daniel M. Bikel wrote:

Has anyone gotten AutoRaise to work with any X implementation (Apple's 
or
fink's) or any window manager?  I use fvwm, and while focus follows the
mouse, as I have it set to do, the AutoRaise feature has never worked 
(I
know this feature annoys most people, but I actually like it).

Thanks,
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Re: [Fink-users] tetex-macosx install

[Michèle Garoche]

Le lundi, 20 jan 2003, à 19:20 Europe/Paris, Don Thompson a écrit :


Has anyone installed tetex-macosx?

Yes, it takes a long time.

Michèle




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Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple give Fink a hard time?

[Kow K]

You've never seen *real* paranoids ... I can tell off-list where you 
can see a real one, if you like. ;-)

Kow

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 09:23 AM, David Bishop wrote:



Not to lump KaOs in the same boat as some other recent emailer 
*cough*, but
what is it about this list the attracts paranoid delusionals?  Just
wondering.

--
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Re: [Fink-users] need make 3.80

[Max Horn]

At 9:34 Uhr -0500 20.01.2003, Gregory Seidman wrote:

I have a build system that depends on some of the features in GNU make
3.80, but MacOS X 10.1.5 (which I am still running) and Fink (even
unstable) still have only 3.79.1. I'd like to make a .deb from the latest
make source so that I can manage it with Fink, but I don't know how to go
about it. Any thoughts?


You could contact the package maintainer (i.e. me) and ask for an 
update. I have so far not updated to make 3.8 because there was no 
apparent need for it, and it would require me to careful port over 
all the mods made to our make 3.79.1. These mods are the same as the 
Apple make has, and are required for various reasons.

Since with you there is now a reason to update to 3.80, I will 
consider doing it. Out of curiosity, can you tell me which feature 
you need in 3.80 that is not in 3.79.1 ?


Cheers,

Max


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Re: [Fink-users] problem installing control-center (req'd for xmms)?

[Michael Bovee]

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 01:06  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

I'd suggest rebuilding scrollkeeper.


Yup. That was it; two points for you ;0)
This was probably obvious to everyone else, but I'm learning...

Thanks, Alexander!
--Michael

Back to the compiling rockpile...  :0)



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Re: [Fink-users] need make 3.80

[Gregory Seidman]

Max Horn sez:
} At 9:34 Uhr -0500 20.01.2003, Gregory Seidman wrote:
} >I have a build system that depends on some of the features in GNU make
} >3.80, but MacOS X 10.1.5 (which I am still running) and Fink (even
} >unstable) still have only 3.79.1. I'd like to make a .deb from the latest
} >make source so that I can manage it with Fink, but I don't know how to go
} >about it. Any thoughts?
} 
} You could contact the package maintainer (i.e. me) and ask for an 
} update. I have so far not updated to make 3.8 because there was no 
} apparent need for it, and it would require me to careful port over 
} all the mods made to our make 3.79.1. These mods are the same as the 
} Apple make has, and are required for various reasons.

It takes all kinds of mods? Really? I downloaded the source and did a
compile and install, and it seems to be working fine from straight GNU
source. (I installed it over make 3.79.1, expecting that the same file
names would be overwritten and, therefore, an apt-get remove make would
get rid of it.)

} Since with you there is now a reason to update to 3.80, I will 
} consider doing it. Out of curiosity, can you tell me which feature 
} you need in 3.80 that is not in 3.79.1 ?

The primary feature is the MAKEFILE_LIST variable. It lets me have a
nice hierarchical build system with a single instance of make, all
without being dependent on particular directory names.

} Cheers,
} Max
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[Fink-users] preserving my customizations

[Josh Kuperman]

I have found that I am repeatedly wiping out various customizations,
usually to emacs or to LaTex whenever I update either Fink (I use the
fink installed emacs and tetex packages) or developer tools.

Ages ago Martin Costable emailed gave me a guide (well a note) on how
to handle my tetex customizing (for pdfjadetex which really should be
included in the package -- at least optionally - but I probably should
send thatsuggeston  to the maintainer.)


> Fink tetex uses the same tree structure as "standard" teTeX, if you
> replace /usr/local/teTeX by /sw. In particular, it understands your
> private teTeX tree in ~/Library/texmf and the local tree in
> /sw/share/texmf.local which is the same as /sw/etc/texmf.local. Both are
> not touched by fink updates.

In any case I seem to have wiped out pdfjadetex, a .sty file or two. A
half working implemantation of some .el files for emac. I also noticed
that when I ran dvips and xdvi, I was recreating fonts I had
previously built and since a lot of perl started working again - I
assume I wiped out my additions there as well. Is there a way to stick
my software additions to fink installed packages someplace truly safe
e.g ~/sw.truly-local so that I can never wipe them out, but perhaps
have the ability to enable and disable my additions so I can tell if I
screwed up as opposed to a real bug?.

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Re: [Fink-users] need make 3.80

[Max Horn]

At 14:24 Uhr -0500 20.01.2003, Gregory Seidman wrote:

Max Horn sez:
} At 9:34 Uhr -0500 20.01.2003, Gregory Seidman wrote:
} >I have a build system that depends on some of the features in GNU make
} >3.80, but MacOS X 10.1.5 (which I am still running) and Fink (even
} >unstable) still have only 3.79.1. I'd like to make a .deb from the latest
} >make source so that I can manage it with Fink, but I don't know how to go
} >about it. Any thoughts?
}
} You could contact the package maintainer (i.e. me) and ask for an
} update. I have so far not updated to make 3.8 because there was no
} apparent need for it, and it would require me to careful port over
} all the mods made to our make 3.79.1. These mods are the same as the
} Apple make has, and are required for various reasons.

It takes all kinds of mods? Really? I downloaded the source and did a
compile and install, and it seems to be working fine from straight GNU
source. (I installed it over make 3.79.1, expecting that the same file
names would be overwritten and, therefore, an apt-get remove make would
get rid of it.)


Oh it works most of the time... only you hit the cases where it will 
fail. Like, when compiling objective .c - the plain GNU make 3.79.1 
has no default rule for .m files. So back in the NeXT days and also 
later at Apple they added that, together with various other 
NeXTStep/Mac OS X/Objective C specific functionality. This affects 
for example XFree86 - with a plain vanilla GNU make, it will not 
build right.



} Since with you there is now a reason to update to 3.80, I will
} consider doing it. Out of curiosity, can you tell me which feature
} you need in 3.80 that is not in 3.79.1 ?

The primary feature is the MAKEFILE_LIST variable. It lets me have a
nice hierarchical build system with a single instance of make, all
without being dependent on particular directory names.


That's a good reason I guess, I could have used something like that 
for various build systems I created in the past, too.


Max


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Re: [Fink-users] Compiling on 10.2.3 with path = /usr/local

[Matt Stephenson]

On Tuesday, Jan 21, 2003, at 05:35 Australia/Sydney, Kow K wrote:



First, how did you try to install your stuff into /usr/local?


FYI to install fink into 'usr/local' download the source to the fink 
package manager not the installer for the fink distribution, run the 
command 'bootstrap.sh' inside the fink source directory and if you 
don't have fink installed you will be asked where you want to install 
it.

Matt



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Re: [Fink-users] preserving my customizations

[dan]

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:00:02 -0500
Josh Kuperman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ... Is there a way to stick my software additions to fink
> installed packages someplace truly safe e.g ~/sw.truly-local so
> that I can never wipe them out, but perhaps have the ability to
> enable and disable my additions so I can tell if I screwed up as
> opposed to a real bug?.

Most, if not all, unix software allows for such customizations
somewhere under $HOME.

I put this in my .emacs:

(add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/elisp")

and all my .el and .elc files under ~/src/elisp/.

I'm pretty sure my fink teTeX and pdflatex make fonts in
/var/tmp/texfonts, but (a) I don't know why and (b) I admit to
being somewhat baffled by TeX's multitude of directory structures.
I have a few .sty files in the local directories where I put the
relevant .tex files, and thankfully haven't needed anything more
complicated than that yet.

In a multi-user situation, you can always make ~/src/elisp/ (e.g.)
at least readable by everyone else.

HTH,
Dan

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Re: [Fink-users] AutoRaise doesn't work?

[Michèle Garoche]

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Daniel M. Bikel wrote:


Has anyone gotten AutoRaise to work with any X implementation 
(Apple's or
fink's) or any window manager?
Yes, it works perfectly with wmaker, that's the main reason I use it, 
apart from the fact I can double-click the icon applications I drew.

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Re: [Fink-users] preserving my customizations

[David R. Morrison]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
> 
> I'm pretty sure my fink teTeX and pdflatex make fonts in
> /var/tmp/texfonts, but (a) I don't know why and (b) I admit to
> being somewhat baffled by TeX's multitude of directory structures.

The Fink tetex packages follow essentially the same layout as the teTeX
distributed by Gerben Weirda, in an attempt to maintain some compatibility
so that users can combine X11-related tools like xdvi from Fink with
Wierda's teTeX. 

Wierda has announced his intention to package xdvi and other X11-related
things with his teTeX distribution in the future, now that Apple is
providing X11 to its customers.  Once he does this, you can expect the
Fink tetex packages to be redesigned (and perhaps have a somewhat
more rational directory layout!), since compatibility will no longer be
an issue.

  -- Dave







> I have a few .sty files in the local directories where I put the
> relevant .tex files, and thankfully haven't needed anything more
> complicated than that yet.
> 
> In a multi-user situation, you can always make ~/src/elisp/ (e.g.)
> at least readable by everyone else.
> 
> HTH,
> Dan
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
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Re: [Fink-users] tetex-macosx install

[Martin Costabel]

Don Thompson wrote:

Has anyone installed tetex-macosx? I have the installation underway and 
it seems to be taking a significant amount of time. Kpsewhich is the 
process that has been running like the Energizer Bunny.

Just tried it. Rebuilding and installing takes 13 seconds.

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[Fink-users] ReportMagic

[James Cicenia]

Is there a ReportMagic package for analog?

James Cicenia
President
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Re: [Fink-users] Compiling on 10.2.3 with path = /usr/local

[Jeremy Erwin]

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 01:35  PM, Kow K wrote:


BTW, do you *REALLY* need to install Fink into /usr/local? If your 
concern is library export and sharing (/sw/lib, /sw/include), you can 
set it up manually with Fink in /sw. For example, here are bash 
exports that enable such interaction:

export CFLAGS="-I/sw/include"
export LDFLAGS="-I/sw/lib"

that should be
export LDFLAGS="-L/sw/lib"

-I is for include paths, -L is for library paths



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[Fink-users] Kpovmodeler, KDE, and Apple's x11

[Wolfgang Rumpf]

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My KDE apps (namely kpovmodeler at this point) don't like having their  
menus pulled down when run under Apple's x11.  I did a complete  
reinstall at one point, and got my menus to work - and then all toolbar  
icons disappeared.  Updated again, and now I'm back to the menus not  
wanting to pull down.

When I *do* attempt to pull a menu down the x11 bombs.

Who at Apple do we need to talk to about this? :)

-  
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Robert Wolfgang Rumpf, Ph.D.
Bioinformaticist & Director of Product Development
Rescentris, Ltd.
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Re: [Fink-users] Kpovmodeler, KDE, and Apple's x11

[Alexander Hansen]

There's an Apple X11 mailing list.  Try searching the fink-user mail
archives for the link--I'm not on it, and I don't remember the URL.

--
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Cambridge, MA  02139-4213

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> icons disappeared.  Updated again, and now I'm back to the menus not
> wanting to pull down.
>
> When I *do* attempt to pull a menu down the x11 bombs.
>
> Who at Apple do we need to talk to about this? :)
>
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> Bioinformaticist & Director of Product Development
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[Fink-users] Fwd: I have a dilemma in colors ...

[Kow K]

I'm forwarding my post to X11 User list. I thought Martin's suggestion 
really helped my case, but ...

Kow

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From: Kow K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon Jan 20, 2003  5:44:32 PM US/Pacific
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Subject: I have a dilemma in colors ...

Hi,

I'm reporting a problem with interchangeability between X11 and 
XDarwin. If this is a known problem, please discard it. I tried to see 
if it is the case on the list archive, but it turned out that keyword 
search wasn't functional and I gave up my attempt.

I'm running 10.2.3 on PowerBook G3 Series 256MHz. On my system, I have 
XDarwin and X11 installed. XDarwin is installed via Fink. I performed 
a hack suggested by Mechèle Geroche to get both to work on the same 
system. (Thanks, Michèle ;-))

But it turnd out today that there is a problem with this setting that 
probably evidences a piece of incompatitbility between the two 
systems. The symptom is this:

1.	On X11, many apps crash in "thousands of colors" mode for monitor
	setting. Notably, WindowMaker and virtually everthing in KDE. They run
	just fine in "millions of colors" mode

2.	In "millions" mode, though, XDarwin (rooted mode) crashes when I
	switch to Aqua. XDarwin runs just fine in "thousands" mode.

Cheers,
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[Fink-users] gnome/libpng problems

[James Gibbs]

A couple of days ago I started having trouble with gnome. Specifically, 
I get a white rectangle where I used to get the startup picture and 
none of my panel icons draw. Also, windows draw at the topmost part of 
the screen where the menubar is, so I can't drag them.

In .gnome-errors I get:
libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.0.12
libpng warning: Application  is  running with png.c from libpng-1.2.5
libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
repeated several times with:
gdk_imlib ERROR: Cannot load image: 
/sw/share/pixmaps/gnome-ccbackground.png
All fallbacks failed.

I have unstable enabled and do cvs updates every day or so.

[james-gibbs-ibook:~] jgibbs% fink list libpng
Information about 2099 packages read in 4 seconds.

 i   libpng   1.0.12-6 PNG image format handling library
 i   libpng-shlibs1.0.12-6 PNG image format handling library
 libpng3  1.2.5-2  PNG image format handling library
 i   libpng3-shlibs   1.2.5-2  PNG image format handling library

Installing libpng3 doesn't help.

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Re: [Fink-users] Compiling on 10.2.3 with path = /usr/local

[Gary Elshaw]

Hi Matthew,

I think this might have something to do with your perl installation (a
nightmare i've been going through the last few days). If you are using
5.8.0 you may want to do the following:
In your environment.plist [~/.MacOSX/environment.plist] put the
following "LC_ALL C" and "$lc_all". You should also tell fink to update
your storable:

mv /sw/lib/perl5/darwin/Storable.pm /tmp
mv /sw/lib/perl5/darwin/auto/Storable /tmp
fink rebuild storable-pm

Give all of that a whirl and try, try again.

Cheers,
Gary

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:07:05 -0800, Matthew wrote:
> I know it's not recommended, but I can't install the latest fink 
source
> package under /usr/local. I've even cleared /usr/local entirely, in
> order to ensure there are no conflicts arising from within the folder.
> I can compile all the base packages if I chose /sw, but not if I chose
> /usr/local. Here is the error I get, after it successfully downloads
> the base packages and compiles and configures from gettext to bzip, 
but
> fails on libiconv:
>
> ...
> gcc -O -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -I../lib
> -I/usr/local/include ./iconv.c -o .libs/iconv  -L/usr/local/lib
> -L../lib/.libs -liconv
> ./iconv.c: In function `main':
> ./iconv.c:195: `LC_CTYPE' undeclared (first use in this function)
> ./iconv.c:195: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> ./iconv.c:195: for each function it appears in.)
> make[1]: *** [iconv] Error 1
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> ### execution of make failed, exit code 2
> compiling libiconv-1.7-5 failed
>
> Any idea what's wrong and why it works if I chose /sw? I can post more
> of the terminal output if it will help.
>
> Thanks,
> M. Herberg
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 07:07  AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know it's not recommended, but I can't install the latest fink source
package under /usr/local. I've even cleared /usr/local entirely, in
order to ensure there are no conflicts arising from within the folder.
I can compile all the base packages if I chose /sw, but not if I chose
/usr/local. Here is the error I get, after it successfully downloads
the base packages and compiles and configures from gettext to bzip, but
fails on libiconv:

...
gcc -O -I. -I. -I../include -I./../include -I../lib
-I/usr/local/include ./iconv.c -o .libs/iconv  -L/usr/local/lib
-L../lib/.libs -liconv
./iconv.c: In function `main':
./iconv.c:195: `LC_CTYPE' undeclared (first use in this function)
./iconv.c:195: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
./iconv.c:195: for each function it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [iconv] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
compiling libiconv-1.7-5 failed

Any idea what's wrong and why it works if I chose /sw? I can post more
of the terminal output if it will help.

Thanks,
M. Herberg

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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Rogério Brito]

On Jan 19 2003, Josh Kuperman wrote:
> This eliminates one problem that was confusing me with Mutt
> installed by Fink (I'll save worrying about color for another day.)

What is the problem you're having with colors and mutt? Just
be sure to set your TERM variable to something that supports
colors and mutt will show you a world full of colors. :-)

IIRC, when I'm using MacOS X, I use my TERM variable set to
xterm-color (or something like that). I'm using mutt-ssl.

BTW, as another question, is there any reason (lack of
manpower, perhaps) on why the urlview isn't present in fink?


[]s, Roger...

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[Fink-users] dpkg-1.10.9-2 failure

[Gary Elshaw]

Anyone have any idea what's going on here?


cursesfile=`echo '#include ' | \
 gcc -E - | grep 'curses.h' | head -1 | \
 sed -e 's/^[^"]*"//; s/".*$//'`; \
if [ "$cursesfile" = "" ]; then echo "can't find curses file"; exit 1;  
fi; \
perl /sw/src/dpkg-1.10.9-2/dpkg-1.10.9/dselect/mkcurkeys.pl  
keyoverride $cursesfile > curkeys.h
Unknown option: 1
Usage: head [-options] ...
-muse method for the request (default is 'HEAD')
-fmake request even if head believes method is illegal
-b  Use the specified URL as base
-t   Set timeout value
-i  Set the If-Modified-Since header on the request
-c  use this content-type for POST, PUT, CHECKIN
-aUse text mode for content I/O
-p  use this as a proxy
-Pdon't load proxy settings from environment
-Hsend this HTTP header (you can specify several)

-uDisplay method and URL before any response
-UDisplay request headers (implies -u)
-sDisplay response status code
-SDisplay response status chain
-eDisplay response headers
-dDo not display content
-oProcess HTML content in various ways

-vShow program version
-hPrint this message

-xExtra debugging output
can't find curses file
make[2]: *** [curkeys.h] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-dselect] Error 2
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 2
### execution of  failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling dpkg-1.10.9-2 failed

Cheers,
Gary

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: problem with selfupdate (Alexander Hansen)
   2. Re: problem with selfupdate (Philip Trauring)
   3. Re: Compiling ant fails (Ben Hines)
   4. Re: problem with selfupdate (Ben Hines)
   5. only 1 arg to macro 'whatever' (2 expected) (lenny bruce)
   6. new linc1 not building (James Gibbs)
   7. openjade crashlog (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Garoche?=)
   8. Re: openjade crashlog (Ben Hines)
   9. TeXShop's vs. Fink's teTeX? (Jonas Steverud)
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:34:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Alexander Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Philip Trauring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Fink-users] problem with selfupdate

Check and see whether /sw/var/lib/dpkg/availble-old is good (It should
look similar to your new /sw/var/lib/dpkg/status).  If so, then copy it
over /sw/var/lib/dpkg/available .
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Philip Trauring wrote:

That seems to have worked, but when it goes to update a package
(after running update-all as suggested), I get this:


Information about 940 packages read in 0 seconds.

The following package will be installed or updated:
 dict
dpkg -i
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/text/dict_1.7.1- 
1_darwin-powerpc.deb
dpkg: parse error, in file `/sw/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
 field name `rai' must be followed by colon
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 2
Failed: can't install package dict-1.7.1-1

I tried updating another package an got a similar response. I tried a
third (xpilot) and it seemed to compile okay, but at the end I got:


Writing control file...
mkdir -p /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/games
dpkg-deb -b root-xpilot-4.5.4-1
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/games
dpkg-deb: building package `xpilot' in
`/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/games/ 
xpilot_4.5.4-1_darwin-powerpc.deb'.
ln -sf
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/games/xpilot_4.5.4- 
1_darwin-powerpc.deb
/sw/fink/debs/
rm -rf /sw/src/root-xpilot-4.5.4-1
dpkg -i
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/games/xpilot_4.5.4- 
1_darwin-powerpc.deb
dpkg: parse error, in file `/sw/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
 field name `rai' must be followed by colon
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 2
Failed: can't install package xpilot-4.5.4-1

 From one problem to the next it seems...

Philip

At 6:57 PM -0500 1/18/03, Alexander Hansen wrote:

OK.  You should be able to try

sudo cp /sw/var/lib/dpkg/status-old /sw/var/lib/dpkg/status

and then try updating again.

--
Alexander K. Hansen
Asso

Re: [Fink-users] dpkg-1.10.9-2 failure

[Ben Hines]

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 11:15  PM, Gary Elshaw wrote:


Anyone have any idea what's going on here?


Usage: head [-options] ...


http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-general.php#head

-Ben



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[Fink-users] Re: ReportMagic

[William Kolean]

I would like to second that request. I tried to compile it myself, but I got
nothing but errors.

William

> Is there a ReportMagic package for analog?
> 
> James Cicenia
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[Fink-users] Re: ReportMagic

[Gary Elshaw]

From: "James Cicenia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:30:40 -0600
Subject: [Fink-users] ReportMagic

Is there a ReportMagic package for analog?

James Cicenia
President
www.jimijon.com


I wish there was too..what a nightmare using the source.

Gary
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[Fink-users] apologies

[Gary Elshaw]

My apologies to the list for the inordinate screed of regurgitated, 
semi-digested text.

Gary
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