secret santa

1999-12-07 Thread Alison Bakken
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

The person that I am secret santa for lives 2 provinces awat from me. 
Your parcel will be in the mail shorty.  Enjoy!



Beginners Driving

1999-12-07 Thread Claudia Galup
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I've been reading all the recent posts about driving and its dangers,
and taken it all to heart very seriously.  I also read with interest
Joel's post about the difficulties of trying to sell trained horses for
prices that reflect their training, and I
 have been feeling so grateful for my own situation.  Last summer  I
spent a week in Nova Scotia at Beaver Dam Farm in Carol Rivoire's
Beginner Driving program, and had the most wonderful time.  The farm is
beautiful, the horses well trained and cared for,  and the program
seemed flexible for all levels of ability.
I h ad never driven before, and was deeply grateful for the no-
pressure, safety first approach to learning.  Not only did I fall in
love with driving, but I fell in love with one of Carol's imported Dutch
mares.  She had been in training  for a year under BDF's wonderful
trainer, Don.  Rosan, the mare, was expensivebut she is also
calm, well trained, ( beautifully trained, according to my local
trainer),  and ready for me to drive.
She is so beautiful, and eager and  willing, and I feel so fortunate
that Carol had the foresight and insight to say, "I think you two would
be a good match."  My North Carolina trainer paid her a high
compliment---he said that whoever bred her knew what they were doing.
I don't for one minute think that  nothing bad could possibly happen.  I
never drive alone-- the trainer is always with me.  I have the good
fortune of boarding at a farm with a resident trainer.  But with the
benefits of  a trainer to help me , and a well bred, well trained, and
well chosen horse-I am having the most wonderful  time!  It is worth
it to me to pay for Rosan's training because I'm a beginner, and not a
young one, either!
I have the highest regard for all of you who train these wonderful
horses and gratitude that I can reap the benefits of your skills. And
I'm Absolutely crazy about my beautiful, sweet, smart Rosan.  She makes
me look good!

claudia



Kissing, hugging, and sanity!

1999-12-07 Thread Momster18
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Hi Everybody!
I'm one of those who constantly kiss and hug my Fjords.  Infact, my daughter 
and I are two peas in a pod, so to speak, when it comes to kissing and 
hugging of our dear friends Patrick and Annie.  I find when the world is 
filled with stress and I have no more answers or patience, if I go to OHF and 
visit with our Fjords I regain my peace of mind and sanity.  These wonderful 
creatures are a God-send and I love them so much!  
A Grateful Fjord Owner,
Pat McCurdy
Cato, NY



RE: Wound Treatment

1999-12-07 Thread Evers
This message is from: Evers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Years ago I had a QH filly that was run through a barbed wire fence by some
feral "BLM" horses.  She cut her near forearm ( right about mid-way ) over
an inch and a half deep, there was a good inch thick piece of muscle torn
away and hanging down.  She also cut a deep gash across the near side of
her chest and shoulder which was over 10 inches long, and quite deep.  The
worst part was that our horses were staying temporarily at a friend's
friend's place ( we were in the process of a move ) when this happened, and
this filly was impossible for strangers to catch,  so the wounds went
totally untreated for four days.  It's an understatement to say that she
was a Bloody Mess!  By the time we got to her and got her to our vet ( I
still call him the most wonderful vet in the world! ) there was no way to
stitch her back together what with all the swelling and dead tissue. Our
vet just cut off the hanging chunk of meat-- it looked like bad jerky-- and
loose flaps of hide, and cleaned the wounds thoroughly with Betadine soap.
Then he gave us a couple cans of some spray stuff called Granulex; we were
to hose the wounds thoroughly with cold water twice a day and then pat dry
and spray with the Granulex.  It did take close to six months for the
forearm to finally heal completely, but afterwards all you could see of the
injury was a thumb-print size dimple, and you couldn't even find a scar
from the gash on her chest. We also later found another brand of the same
medicine called Stimuzyme ( not positive on the spelling ).  When Brian
spoke of Trypzyme spray, I started to wonder if these were the same thing.
Granulex and Stimuzime both contain Trypsin-crystaline, Balsam Peru, and
Cod liver oil.. can't remember the exact percentages.  Is Trypzyme the
same thing, Brian??  If so it's some pretty amazing stuff.

Amy


Bud, Tillie & Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords  
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
"Speak yer mind, but ride a fast horse."



Kissing

1999-12-07 Thread OLSENELAIN
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While we are on the subject of kissing, here's something you might want to 
avoid

I had one of my horses at a training barn for a while ( a warmblood), and 
when he came back, I noticed a quarter-sized scaly patch on his forehead. I 
washed it and picked at it, but it only seemed to get a little bigger. Then 
one morning I woke up with an intense red, circular mark on my neck that 
itched like crazy. And I noticed that my poor dog had the same thing on her 
nose! Well, it turned out to be RINGWORM. All three of us were treated with 
the same medicine!

I still kiss and snuggle up to all my animals, but I keep my eye out for 
anything scaly!!!



Re: Fjord Message Board

1999-12-07 Thread KTPUGH
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To Sini in Finland, here is a link to a Norwegian Fjord chat board, but it is 
not very active. Norwegi
an Fjord 



Re: HAVING IT BOTH WAYS - KISSING

1999-12-07 Thread Arthur Rivoire
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Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -

Let's admit it, the discussion on whether or not we kiss Fjords is kind of
silly, isn't it.  But, some interesting thoughts have come out of it, like
the hazards of too much cleanliness.  That's a very interesting subject,
and one I've heard before. 

 Isn't it amazing that modern science and industry by developing
antibiotics and sanitizing products have contributed to the weakening of
the human immune system?  And it's not only with humans. Veterinary
hospitals are discovering exactly the same syndrome in animals.  Remember
not too long ago when we were advised to give pennacillin to our horses as
a precautionary measure?  

But, I digress . . .

Anyway, as to kissing my Fjords.  Well, I hope it doesn't make me less
professional, but I admit to doing it regularly.  I also kiss my cats, and
particularly enjoy that pleasure when they've just come down from the
haymow.  And on a warm, sunny Fall day, there's something special about
burying your face in the fur of a cat that's been lying in the sun.  

Perhaps we should get specific about the kissing part.  I mean, there's
lots of ways to kiss.  And unless  you go for the "Eat Face" kind of
kissing, I seriously doubt there's any danger kissing our horses or pets.
I mean, none of you are talking about mouth to mouth kissing. . . Are you? 

Our Fjordhorses like the kissing and cuddling. They reach for out for it,
and I oblige.  I lay my face on their velvety muzzles, and then we commune.  

OK!  Regarding HAVING IT BOTH WAYS --- Why not?  Our horses are My
Business.  Our horses are also My Passion and my Hobby.  Who says I can't
have it both ways?  I have had it both ways for twenty years, and it works
beautifully. My business is my hobby. (I stole that line from Bob van Bon).  

When you get right down to it, it doesn't matter who kisses their horses,
and who doesn't.  Kissing your Fjord does not make you a good owner, and
not kissing your Fjord doesn't make you a poor one. A well kissed Fjord
living in a ratty stable is not a lucky fellow.  

 What does matter is that owners are knowledgeable and hardworking.  It
matters that their horses never have to wait for a feeding. That they get
good quality feed and hay.  That their water tank never runs dry and is
always clean. That they get their feet trimmed every 6 - 8 weeks.  That
they get wormed every 6 - 8 weeks.  That they get all the vaccinations they
need.  That they have shelter from biting flies in  summer and from wind
and rain in winter.  That they're provided with strong, safe fencing to
prevent them getting out and hurt.  That they get the benefit of careful
training from their earliest days.  That they have good quality tack that
doesn't hurt them.  That they have the companionship of at least one other
horse. --  If an owner faithfully does all these things for her horse,
she's a good owner, and her horses will bloom,  and everybody will notice.
Kissing is optional! 

Best Regards,  Carol Rivoire

  

Carol and Arthur Rivoire
Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II
R.R. 7 Pomquet
Antigonish County
Nova Scotia
B2G 2L4
902 386 2304
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf



Re: When Magic Happens!

1999-12-07 Thread MNoonan931
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What a great Post about Michael and  Sean.  I have a Michael too, and even 
though he would  be embarrassed by my writing this,  he deserves it , oh 
well,  wives can do these things.
My Mike rode horses at camps as a kid, and that was the extent of it., About 
8 years ago  Mike was crushed by a log and is now partially  paralized from 
the waist down,.  The daily pain, and struggle can be alot some days.   BUT
now that he has more time at home with his family,  he has found riding , a 
true joy that he can do.  Not easily, and it took a few horses, to find one 
that he could stay on, and that was gentle enough,  (gripping with his knees 
isnt possible).  We found FJORDS.  They have  the temparament he needs 
and the heighth and wide back.  Its amazing that he has found something he 
truly enjoys, through a life changing accident.  But you just never know, 
what life has in store for you, so GRAB THE REINS AND HANG ON

The one thing we need to teach our other Fjords  is how to neck rein,  does 
anyone have any ideas on how to do that,  or is that left to the 
professionals?

Mike and Michele Noonan
Stevensville, Montana

Where its finally SNOWING



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Fjord Xing Signs for Christmas

1999-12-07 Thread Betsy Bauer
This message is from: "Betsy Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Everyone,
   I wanted all of you to know that I have stocked up on Fjord Crossing
signs as seen at http://www.fjordpony.com/extras.html   They make wonderful
Secret Santa gifts and I can send them directly to your secret person. I
won't tell honest!  They are 12" square and cost $25. includes postage
within the States.
   Just thought it may be of interest to some

Betsy Bauer
   We've been riding down the dry river bed and having a ball. 60* in
California



Re: fjord cuddeling...an art

1999-12-07 Thread Heyvaert
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I kiss my sweeties every morning.  They each have their own aroma and react 
differently!!  Some say,  "Yea, yea, just get on with the feeding!"  and 
others just nuzzle right up to you.  Hint:  never kiss a horse with chapstick 
on!  That is a little icky!!

Susan from sunny MN



Re: l5 minutes grace??

1999-12-07 Thread Heyvaert
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You're getting daring in your "old" age

Susan



When Magic Happens

1999-12-07 Thread SUSAN L GIARGIARI
This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is the story of the perfect Fjord whose name just happens to be Sean.
Sean is the son of LLA Hilmar and SF Sunday. He is with out a doubt near
perfect; balance, looks, temperament. He was also the proud owner of Anne &
Don Sullivan. Anne had come to our place and watched him do his magic on a
stack of logs, in and out the escape door of our trailer. He was just four
month at that time. Sean also did a few of John Lyons moves for her. This
should be the end, but wait, after quite a long time and much handling our
good friend Ann was told she had best her things in order for her time(here)
had all but run out. She had to make some real hard choices and fast, Ann
knowing how much I loved Sean, returned him to me with her blessings.
 It was at just this time that all the Fjord people from here were on
their way to KY. for Equitana USA. After being their for a day  we were
getting ready to practice at the out door arena, and while I was waiting,
there was a man in the arena riding a huge quarter horse. At first I thought
nothing of it but then something made me look really close at them both.
This man was tied to his horse in a western saddle with a tall back (to say
the least, no room for error). I started to leave but kept being drawn back
and the longer I stayed the more I had to try and  talk to this fellow, as
you who know me  know I say what I think, don't pull punches and let
everything fall where it may, so I went into the ring and called this fellow
over, asked if I might make a date to talk with him later. This was done.
 The man's name is Michael Richardson. We talked for quite sometime and
made an agreement to talk in three days. As those in the booth with me know,
I tried to talk to every person in a wheel chair.  The question was always
the same, "IF I TOLD YOU THAT YOU COULD HARNESS AND HOOK UP A PONY TO A CART
BY YOURSELF WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TRY IT?" Many people looked at me as if
I were nuts. One or two also said "why didn't I try sitting in their place"
, they were angry. I asked them if Michael were to show them, would they be
willing to try? Everything changed at that very moment: I believe it's
because Michael is one of them. The difference is, he has a reason to get up
every single day.
Michael and I talked again.  We made things happen and he now owns Sean. as
I told Michael, it will be hard for the kids not to love this little Fjord!
The first thing you see is a perfect heart on his nose , he is not too
big,and he has perfect eye shadow, from across the field he screams I LOVE
YOU with just a look. For sure this is just the beginning of the story of
Michael & Sean with Gods speed they will they will help a lot of people to
see the beauty of our Fjords horses.
Now I would like to thank all who sent their best, and offers of help to me
and mine.I'll get better and my heart will heal just fine.God is not through
with me just,but when He is that is fine also,
 May God bless an keep you all
Richard Giargiari



Re: Quality of Life

1999-12-07 Thread Carl & Sarah Nagel
This message is from: "Carl & Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear Catherine,

We just went through that this summer.  Our older mare, Jonetta (June) was
25.  She had been fine ... enjoying "quality of life" even tho she had
heaves, they were controlled with medication, and she wasn't suffering.  She
was a terrific horse, perfect for her job as my daughters horse.   The next
week, she caught a virus, it turned into pneumonia and everything went
downhill fast.  At the end of three weeks, it was obvious to us that it was
time.   A more experienced person might have known it right away, but it
took me at least one week to realize that she wasn't going to recover.  My
vet was incredibly instrumental in helping me realize it was time to put her
down and she assurred me that  she would not euthanize June prematurily.
Once she told me June was actually suffering, we did what we had to do.

When you find yourself in those situations wondering?  Ask your vet, work
closely with them.  They will help you.   Also, often you just "know".  You
can tell by looking in the horse's eye ... you can see when they are ready
and when they are still fighting.  I have found this to be true with cats
and dogs as well.

Good luck and God bless you for taking in those rescue and damaged animals.
Along with the heartbreak, there are often very rich rewards to be gotten
.

Sarah Nagel
-Original Message-
From: Catherine Lassesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 6:28 AM
Subject: Quality of Life


>This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hello, I would like to hear comments PLEASE. It has come to the time when
we
>(all of us at the farm) are talking about quality of life in an  horse.
For
>me it is always a hard time deciding when to put a horse down. And since we
>do rescues and tend to have an older horse or "damaged" horse. We face the
>choice more often than the normal farm. But it is always still a hard one.
>
>What is your thoughts on when it is the right time to place a horse down?
>How far should we go to "save" a horse and when is quality of life
>considered good, bad or indifferent ?
>
>Thank you ,
>Catherine Lassesen
>
>



Vet advice d rings

1999-12-07 Thread misha nogha
This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Dr. Brian for all the great vet advice on the list. It wonderful,
just fabulous that you take the time to share these things with us! Wow.
Thanks. Say Meredith, about the d rings, I always ride in an all purpose
saddle, I just like em. But what I do for a pack is I bought one of those
blankets from Libertyville saddle shop for trail. The first part of the pad
is a very thick fleece pad and the second half that goes beyond the saddle
is a cordura pad with big pockets on the side and also D rings on both
sides to attach your cantle bag or saddle bags to. The under side of the
whole pad is thick fleece. It's pretty cool and I took it out in VERY
rugged steep country and it did not slip. In the pockets I put the usual;
lunch, carrots, water, wire cutters, first aid kit, hoof pick bandages etc.
(Everyone made fun of me about the wire cutters untilwe came onto a loop of
wire in a very bad place next to the trail. It was a cold day, I tied a
parka onto the strings on the d rings and a halter and lead rope. It worked
fine. It will fit under an all purpose or dresssage saddle. I think the
address for Libertyville on line is www.saddleshop.com. Check it out.

Misha
http://www.eoni.com/~mishamez  



Re: Quality of Life

1999-12-07 Thread Northhorse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 12/7/99 6:27:49 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< How far should we go to "save" a horse and when is quality of life
 considered good, bad or indifferent ? >>

If I could afford to keep a horse who is just a pasture ornament, with no 
hope to ever ride it, breed it, etc. but it's quality of life was good, or 
even so-so, I would keep it.  And let it live out it's days peacefully.  If 
money were an issue, I'd have to rethink the issue.  One thing I did with an 
aged, arthritic, cripple old mare who I loved is I gave her to a petting zoo. 
  Last I heard she was very happy being doted on and the queen of the petting 
zoo.  Occasionally a young child will get their first taste of sitting 
horseback on old Jenny Sue.  There are options if the horse isn't in terrible 
pain.

If the animal were in pain I wouldn't, haven't hesitated to put it down.  If 
there is no hope of recovery.  It's not fair to the animal.  Even in the 
wild, I think the suffering would be short, as the animal in pain and unable 
to move fast is the target for the cougar and wolf.  It just makes good sense 
to not let an animal suffer.

Sounds like this may be a decision you must make soon.  Good luck.  I'm 
certain you'll do the right thing.

Pamela



Re: Fjord Message Board

1999-12-07 Thread David Stewart, Registrar
This message is from: "David Stewart, Registrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


-Original Message-
From: Sini Seppala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 December 1999 15:22
Subject: Fjord Message Board


>This message is from: Sini Seppala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Hi Sini,

Great hearing from you ... well, would you believed that a Fjord Message
Board was added to the site only yesterday!

I hope you will visit the FHRS and add a message.

http://homepages.thefree.net/fhrs/index.fhrs.htm

I will be visiting your site this evening.

Thanks again for writing.

With good wishes,

David
>Hi all, thought to ask if you were interested in a Fjord message board - a
site
>where everyone can leave their messages and reply to the others' posts. Or
is
>there one already perhaps?
>
>Have been visiting a general horsey message board for two years and the
place is
>both useful and a lot of fun. These people (there are about 15-20 regular
>participants and 5-10 who come and go) write about all kinds of
horse-related
>things and tell stories about their horses etc. It's nice to learn to know
them
>and their horses' personalities and hear about how they are doing. Most
people
>write a post of a few lines once a day or a few times a week. These people
have
>become great friends and have also met each other a few times.
>
>Does somebody know how a site like this can be established?
>Have a good day everyone
>and thank you for all these interesting conversations on the list
>Sini in Finland. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html
>



Re: Quality of Life

1999-12-07 Thread Mary Thurman
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



--- Catherine Lassesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Hello, I would like to hear comments PLEASE. It has
> come to the time when we
> (all of us at the farm) are talking about quality of
> life in an  horse.

Catherine,

I, too, own an older horse - Line is now approaching
the "30-year" mark.  Next year will be her "30th
year".  Last year she began losing her eyesight, and
recently her hearing is not as good.  She has had
arthritis in her hocks for several years now.  BUT she
is still happy, healthy, interested in the world
around her, and seems to enjoy life.  We have done a
lot of thinking about what the 'criteria' would be for
putting her down.  Here is what I have come up with:
1)If, or when, she develops any disease which is
difficult(ie. the cure is worse than the disease), or
impossible to treat.  2) When her enjoyment of life is
gone - either due to severe pain, confusion due to
complete blindness and deafness, illness that makes
her miserable all the time.  3)When her body wears out
to the point that she can no longer nourish herself -
I REFUSE to let a horse essentially starve to death
because "she's just old"!

As you can see, and I'm sure you know from past
experience, there are no really 'cut and dried'
answers here.  Just general guidelines.  You really
have to go by 'gut feeling' here - if you know in your
'gut'(or heart) that the animal is miserable, and will
never again be anything but miserable, then the time
has come to be kind.  We have had the unfortunate
experience of having to apply these criteria to a
beautiful, perfectly conformed 5-week-old filly.  She
was born - and remained - immune compromised.  Nothing
we used to give her immunity worked.  We kept hoping
her own body would begin to make its own immunity, but
it never did.  She went from one infection to another
for weeks.  When she developed meningitis we knew it
was time to let her go.  But it was hard to give up on
her.  Nowdays there are better treatments for FPT, so
she probably would have lived a long happy life.  She
was just born a couple of years too soon.  

Hope this helps in your thinking/pondering.

Mary



 

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Raintree Farms
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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kissing

1999-12-07 Thread Dave McWethy
This message is from: " Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Okay, Bill, you put all us guys on the spot!  I am not a frequent kisser of
horses, but I have planted the occasional kiss.  Wasn't something I expected
to do, but can I say?  I just like them too much, and there I was!

Dave



Fjord Message Board

1999-12-07 Thread Sini Seppala
This message is from: Sini Seppala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all, thought to ask if you were interested in a Fjord message board - a site
where everyone can leave their messages and reply to the others' posts. Or is
there one already perhaps?

Have been visiting a general horsey message board for two years and the place is
both useful and a lot of fun. These people (there are about 15-20 regular
participants and 5-10 who come and go) write about all kinds of horse-related
things and tell stories about their horses etc. It's nice to learn to know them
and their horses' personalities and hear about how they are doing. Most people
write a post of a few lines once a day or a few times a week. These people have
become great friends and have also met each other a few times.

Does somebody know how a site like this can be established? 
Have a good day everyone
and thank you for all these interesting conversations on the list
Sini in Finland. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html



Northern Vermont Trip

1999-12-07 Thread briar hill farm
This message is from: "briar hill farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > 
> > My sister Rachel and I are planning a trip to northern Vermont, about
650
> > miles from where we live in Western New York. It's a multi-purpose trip
> with

Hi, from Northern Vermont,

We are in the north west part of Vermont, about 2 hours from Lindsay and
Jim and would love to have you for a visit. There are 15 Fjords on the farm
right now. We have offspring from Solar, Stording (Grabb), Montano, Yogi
(Myrstein), Holunder, Hegdal (Pedro), Glengard, Ramstaad, and Ring, so
there's opportunity to see a variety of Fjords. Weather and time
permitting, we could ride or hitch up the sleigh.
If you take 91 north from the Coli's, 89 to the Sweeney's, then we are off
89 farther north. You could go home through Burlington, down rt. 7 to
Ticonderoga or Whitehall, then back to NY.

Marcy Baer  & Susan Cook.  Briar Hill Farm



Re: Quality of Life

1999-12-07 Thread GailDorine
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 12/7/99 7:27:49 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< quality of life >>
I'm dealing with that with my 19 year old cat before I move.  I don't know 
how to not second guess yourself, but I sure wish I did.  Most people err on 
the side of caution, me included.



Re: Quality of Life

1999-12-07 Thread Debby Stai
This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Its a very hard decision to make for all of our beloved animals. We had to put
our 16yr. old cat to sleep last year. He'd been battling diabetes for about ten
months. Even with daily insulin shots, we, he,  had a hard time. After spending
time with the vet throughout this period, the last time he went into a diabetic
semicoma, we opted to end it then. He could hardly walk much less crawl. We
probably waited too long to do it as I'm sure he suffered.  I miss him terribly.
I hope I make a better decision the next time I go through this. Debby in TX

Catherine Lassesen wrote:

> This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hello, I would like to hear comments PLEASE. It has come to the time when we
> (all of us at the farm) are talking about quality of life in an  horse.  For
> me it is always a hard time deciding when to put a horse down. And since we
> do rescues and tend to have an older horse or "damaged" horse. We face the
> choice more often than the normal farm. But it is always still a hard one.
>
> What is your thoughts on when it is the right time to place a horse down?
> How far should we go to "save" a horse and when is quality of life
> considered good, bad or indifferent ?
>
> Thank you ,
> Catherine Lassesen



D-rings and proudflesh

1999-12-07 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Merdith,
My Ortho-flex Dresseur model saddle has d-rings on the front and back of the
saddle - plenty of them. Just another reason to look at them and it is a great
trail-ridng saddle!

Proudflesh:
Steve & Brian, could you discuss the use of packing sugar in wounds to keep them
clean and healing outward without forming proudflesh. I was shown this method
when my Morgan got a bad gash  above his heel and he healed remarkably well.

Cynthia Madden
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Quality of Life

1999-12-07 Thread Catherine Lassesen
This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello, I would like to hear comments PLEASE. It has come to the time when we
(all of us at the farm) are talking about quality of life in an  horse.  For
me it is always a hard time deciding when to put a horse down. And since we
do rescues and tend to have an older horse or "damaged" horse. We face the
choice more often than the normal farm. But it is always still a hard one.

What is your thoughts on when it is the right time to place a horse down?
How far should we go to "save" a horse and when is quality of life
considered good, bad or indifferent ?

Thank you ,
Catherine Lassesen