Re: question on hubs ADS

2004-06-05 Thread Pat Holland
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Can anyone tell me if the hubs have to be recessed to comply with ADS rules.
I remember someone telling me they had to be, but I just looked in the ADS
rule book and found nothing regarding that. I just bought a two wheel cart
and the hubs are NOT recessed. It was built in 1988 - refinshed in 1992. Am
I getting myself in trouble at ADS shows?
Thank you
Pat Holland



re: ticks

2004-06-05 Thread Katherine Carter
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Central and northern Maine are another place with very few ticks, 
although I hear that they are more common near the coast where 
winters are milder.  I've only seen 2 ticks on my horses here over 
the past 15 years, and we ride in both wooded and grassy areas.  
The deer and moose do have ticks but they don't seem to migrate 
to either dogs or horses.  Much better than Missouri where I grew 
up, and you come in with ticks every time you venture out!   Of 
course, you have to put up with the cold winters, but the Fjords 
don't mind that.

--Kathy in ME
-Kathy in ME



Re: Founder, Rotation, and shoes

2004-06-05 Thread Epona1971
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Hi Jennie-

Bonnie looks better already! She does have a beautiful dark golden glow to 
her coat.

On barefoot, founder, and natural horse care: two books you should invest in 
are Horse Owner's Guide to Natural Hoof Care and Founder: Prevention and Cure, 
both by Jaime Jackson. Lots of good information, no pseudoscience, lots of 
photos. These and other resources available at http://home.alltel.net/star/




/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com



Another Baby

2004-06-05 Thread Northhorse
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We had our first colt, after 5 fillies, this Thursday.  His mom is Holly, and 
his sire is Dusty.  He already seems to want to live up to his dad's good 
name, as his sliding stops and spins are phenomenal at 2 days old!

Pamela 
Northern Holiday Horses 



Re: Fjords and Heat

2004-06-05 Thread Northhorse
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Hello Myriam,

My family drove through France in late August, early September of 1988, and I 
know how hot it can get, even in normal years!

It gets pretty hot here in Oregon on occasion also.  My fjords don't 
particularly care for it, but get by.  I have stalls that are well-ventilated 
and I 
try to keep them cool.  If you can hook up a misting system, that really helps 
sometimes, where you attach the mister to a hose.  But it can also make your 
barn feel a bit swampy.  I don't usually like fans in barns, as a friend of 
mine 
had her barn burn down (coincidentally at the same time I was driving through 
France) when her fans caught fire.  But they do make some fans that are safe 
for barns.  

I know that the horses will get used to the heat if it last for some time, 
but two-three day heat waves are the pits for animals and humans alike!

I remember driving through Toulouse and it was enchanting. 

Pamela 
Northern Holiday Horses 



Re: TICKS

2004-06-05 Thread Jean Ernest
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Check out NEEM oil..Search on Google or look at Chamisa Rlidge
website..Chamisa Ridge has several Neem products:
http://www.chamisaridge.com/search.php?search=1keyword=neemgo.x=4go.y=5

Or if this doesn't work, go tohttp://www.chamisaridge.com/ 
and search for NEEM.
Neem is a natural and safe Herbal insecticide.

From the website: http://www.chamisaridge.com/search/7/OR438
K+Neem (either ready to use or concentrate) is so safe it can be used on
food crops up to and including the day of harvest. K+Neem is ideal for
controlling insects in and around the barn, or when sprayed on trees,
shrubs, and vegetables. Organica ensures us that it is perfectly safe for
humans and animals, but caution should be exercised not to allow it to
enter eyes or come into contact with exposed mucous membranes (as with any
soap-based product, stinging can occur). Bob Knaub of Organica stated that
the safest way to avoid this, for customers who wish to use the products
directly on their horses, is to wash the animal down with K+Neem, then hose
it off. The residual K+Neem, after hosing, acts as the repellant.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, clear and sunny

Now a question.. when I go riding out in the state forest, our horses get
loaded with ticks on their legs.  It would seem to me that a body wash would
be a great idea pre and post ride to repell ticks and to wash off the ones
that still jumped on for the ride.  Any ideas what this body wash should
contain?


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #125

2004-06-05 Thread BlkHorseAntique
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Each of our horses has a fan for his stall during the summer.  They love 
them, and will stand as close as possible to get the full effect on their 
faces.  

I also have had an overly warm Fjord here in hot,humid Nebraska.  One of our 
mares tends to have a thicker coat, even in the summer, and if I am using her 
alot, I just give her a body clip.  That solves the warm horse problem.

I have been following the thread about feel and horse trainers.  I agree 
that reactions and response time can be improved with education.  But I  know 
people with thousands of dollars in lessons and extremely well trained horses, 
that continue to respond too harshly at exactly the wrong moment, and ignore  
the obvious things that should be corrected.  Although feel can be learned, 
there are some people that just seem to lack the instinct or the interest to 
develop it.

Janice in Nebraska



Re: Founder, Rotation, and shoes

2004-06-05 Thread Jean Ernest
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Hi Jennie,

 The  Rural Heritage magazine has a great website  that may be of help:
The Farrier section  http://www.ruralheritage.com/village_smithy/index.htm
they also have a Ask the Blacksmith section at the bottom of the list.
http://www.ruralheritage.com/messageboard/villagesmithy/index1.htm
To ask a question, however, you have to  register and subscribe or pay a
small fee.

I know there are some farriers on this list too.

Jean in Clear and sunny Fairbanks, Alaska, will be HOT! this afternoon: 85
degrees!



I watched that Horse Shoeing Time on RFDTV last nite. Just so happened to 
have a foundered pony on there. 

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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TICKS

2004-06-05 Thread Janet
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A couple of thoughts about ticks.  I have noticed we never pick up any ticks
in our sheep pastures.  I'm not possitive why this should be, but one theory
I have is that sheep leave little to no dead grass, which is a habitat for
small rodents that are a host to ticks.  The other possibility is that the
guard dogs keep the deer out of the pasture, which helps prevent bringing in
deer ticks (20% of which which carry lyme and HGE in this area).  Lastly
ticks do not seem to like sheep, thus sheep will not contribute to
perpetuating the tick population.  If I had no sheep, I would clear my horse
pastures of brush and  keep them mowed.

Now a question.. when I go riding out in the state forest, our horses get
loaded with ticks on their legs.  It would seem to me that a body wash would
be a great idea pre and post ride to repell ticks and to wash off the ones
that still jumped on for the ride.  Any ideas what this body wash should
contain?

Roberta, where do you find an economical source of Tea tree oil?  I have a
tiny bottle that would maybe work on a chihuahua that cost me $4.

Janet



Re: TICKS

2004-06-05 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 6/5/2004 7:15:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now a question.. when I go riding out in the state forest, our horses get
loaded with ticks on their legs.  It would seem to me that a body wash would
be a great idea pre and post ride to repell ticks and to wash off the ones
that still jumped on for the ride.  Any ideas what this body wash should
contain?

** Janet, I was told that dog flea  tick shampoo would do the trick. I would 
ask my vet before using it, just in case, as each brand has different active 
ingredients.


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com



Founder, Rotation, and shoes

2004-06-05 Thread LLStara117
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Hello.

I watched that Horse Shoeing Time on RFDTV last nite. Just so happened to 
have a foundered pony on there. And the farrier was saying how you can see if a 
foundered horse has rotation by just looking at the white line and the width of 
another line. I wasn't watching it with my full attention, so if I missed 
something, please fill me in. 

Also, I'm a firm believer in going barefoot when possible. And half of the 
farriers say you need shoes with founder, and the others say you need shoes 
with 
founder to prevent the coffin bone from going thru the sole, or to give it 
more support.

I'd like to know what your opinions are. What are your reasons for what you 
think is right? 

I personally would like to see Bonnie go barefoot. She is tender now, and I 
think thats normal? Since she's had shoes on for the last year at least, 
possibly 2. She had some shoes on the front called New Balance? They are a 
pretty 
heavy shoe, with a flat toe on them. 

Other concern: When trimming the foundered hoof... do we want a low heel and 
long toe, or short toe and long heel? Do we want to keep the hoof looking like 
a normal hoof, or try and set the coffin bone so it's still at with the 
bottom part on the bottom of the hoof? I know I'm probably confusing you. But a 
farrier told me it would be better to go with a low heel to help correct her 
angle! Is this what I want?

I put new pics up of Bonnie's trim.

Thank you.
Jennie
http://fjordbonnie.tripod.com

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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #125

2004-06-05 Thread Janet
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Yes, Linda..move  :-)

We don't have many wood ticks in northern Minnesota.


Jon  Mary Ofjord
North Coast Fjords
Grand Marais, MN 55604


Surely you jest!   

janet (Hinckley MN)



Re: Neat Barter Idea

2004-06-05 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 6/5/2004 6:49:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Chances are a busy training and boarding stable is
not going to be interested in the trade, but there is invariably going to be
a younger person out there with some great skills, who has not yet
established a training business (but would like to) who would be interested.

** Good point, Janet. I suggested something similar to an acquaintance who 
wants her 4 year old started but is very short on money. There are many young 
aspiring trainers out there who would love to take on a project for free. Of 
course there is a risk involved, but the same risk is involved when hiring a 
horse experienced, costly person. You must use your judgment to choose who will 
handle your horses.


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com



Neat Barter Idea

2004-06-05 Thread Janet
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I thought the barter idea for training was quite creative, and has potential
in the right situation.  Chances are a busy training and boarding stable is
not going to be interested in the trade, but there is invariably going to be
a younger person out there with some great skills, who has not yet
established a training business (but would like to) who would be interested.
Doubly interested if that same person has been wanting to buy a Fjord.

It is unlikely that this same person would already be the owner of a Fjord
stallion, and the idea that you would get your mare bred _and_ trained in
exchange for a weanling filly is a bit too optomistic.

But I think the concept is worth trying.  Let us know how it works!

Janet



Wood Ticks again

2004-06-05 Thread Janne
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Linda,

sorry to say, but in the area you and we live, wood ticks are part of life for
at least 6 weeks in May June.  I have a great solution tho, get some Guinea
hens to roam your land, they are the BEST for eating wood ticks.  I have had
them for 2 years now, and do not have to be a monkey every night, picking
wood ticks from horses, dogs AND especially kids.  :  And the hens are NOT
noisy as some people warned.  We love'em.

An occasional wood tick still comes around, but not often.  Learnt this from
Kit Davis actually, when visiting their place years ago.

Wood tick can be deadly for foals especially, as they get in their tails and
spine.  One foal died here north of us a few years back because of tick
infestation.  yak!!  Not a fjord tho.

Janne



end of the earth!!!!

2004-06-05 Thread HorseLotti
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Too funny, Laurie...I still remember the first time Laurie visited me at my 
farm.  She thought she would never get here, thought it was in the middle of 
nowhere and confirmed that I was NOT crazy for wishing I was back in MPLS :)

Oh ya..she also fell in love with fjords that day and has not been the same 
since..YAHOO!!!  Good ole' Sven...he has that way about him:)

Last week a family stopped by to visit.mom is my dog groomer.  Her three 
children + a friend were with.  I brought my black and white spotted App out 
for them to seeshe is a fjord in a polka-dot outfit but is tall.so, a 
bit scarry for young kids.  Then, I brought Sven in..OMG!!!  They were all 
over himeveryone wanted to brush him and they all sat on him.  The two 
older girls (early teens) were scared of Miss Dottie Lottie (app) but crawled 
right up on Sven.  Now they want to learn to ride - haha!! As you can imagine, 
Sven did not bat an eye over all the attention!  

OKday four waiting for goat babies to arrive.  

Linda in tick infested NW Minnesota :)



Yakima Fjord[s]

2004-06-05 Thread Douglas Knutsen
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There is at least one Fjord mare and adult male [gelding?] in Yakima. They are
owned by the Braatens, who are not active in the NFHR or PNFPG, as far as I
know. They bred their mare to Erlend about 4 years ago. Mama and baby are both
brown dun, and we have not heard whether baby was gelded.

We found our first tick since we moved here on our young male Golden last
week. So far none on equines.

Sadie, known around here as O.H. Bigasabarn, is starting to get a full udder,
but isn't due 'till the 22nd. We probably will start sleeping out there in a
few days. Please keep us in your thoughts. After her losing her foal last
season, we are a little nervous. She and I have been especially close since
then - it's very sweet.

Bye for now,
Peg

Peg Knutsen
www.elltel.net/kffjord/



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-05 Thread SSlotness
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We live in N. Minnesota, near Duluth. Not as north as the Ofjords. My horses
do not seem to get ticks, but the dogs are covered with them. They go away by
mid summer.

Suzan

The world is so empty if one thinks only of mountains, rivers and cities; but
to know someone here and there who thinks and feels with us, and though
distant, is close to us in spirit --- this makes the earth for us an inhabited
garden.
— Johann von Goethe