Re: trailering
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems like there's an even divide between people saying never drop the butt bar while your horse is still tied and people saying drop the butt bar, untie your horse and then go back and catch the rope on the way out. Being new to trailering, y'all are making my head spin!! Timely issue though since I am just trying to get this figured out on how to do it by myself without a partner helping. It actually had not occurred to me to back him out from outside the trailer - I am always in the trailer and backing him out. I think I'll give that a go this weekend. Kate and Joe (basically the best pony ever)
Re: trailering
This message is from: Reena Giola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would think this would be dependant on your particular horse...wouldn't you? or if you have an extra pair of helping hands or by yourself. I am coming into the discussion late; when we trailer via slant, we always backed the horses out, no problem whether it was dirt or pavement..went inside and got them walked them outbut one horse I had, wasn't going to go for that, he wanted out front ways, so instead of getting into a fight with him about it and him getting hurt, he came out just fine, all the time. when we trailered in a straight load, there were always two of usone behind to do the butt bar while the other was untying. I'd have to pull on Gustav's tail sometimes to get him moving out since when he was untied he start eating the food on the floor! LOL Reena - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: Re: trailering This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems like there's an even divide between people saying never drop the butt bar while your horse is still tied and people saying drop the butt bar, untie your horse and then go back and catch the rope on the way out. Being new to trailering, y'all are making my head spin!! Timely issue though since I am just trying to get this figured out on how to do it by myself without a partner helping. It actually had not occurred to me to back him out from outside the trailer - I am always in the trailer and backing him out. I think I'll give that a go this weekend. Kate and Joe (basically the best pony ever)
Re: Internships at Beaver Dam Farm
This message is from: Beaver Dam Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -- Ellen, I guess I didn't explain our program well enough. There is a very detailed explanation on our website. First of all, I shouldn't have said the interns work alone . That's not what I meant. They are never alone, and certainly not when working with the horses. What I did mean is that the older, more experienced interns need to be able to work independently with a horse without an instructor on the ground telling them what to do. As to the other work of the farm -- We just want to make sure that all our prospective interns know upfront that they will be expected to do any and all work that is necessary to run the farm as well as our Riding Driving Vacations. -- Every one of us has to be ready to pitch in and do whatever's needed. For instance, each girl is expected to keep their own room neat and clean. Each girl is expected to do 15 min. of housework when they come in from the barn. When you have 7 girls living in a house, each one doing 15 min. per day of housework makes for a clean, tidy house, and not too much work for any one girl. As to cheap labor, well, I guess that's a matter of personal opinion. For someone who doesn't adore horses and adore the country life, what we offer wouldn't be attractive. -- For those that do love this lifestyle, it's a fabulous experience. -- Not to mention that the farm overlooks the ocean. There's a wonderful, warm-water beach 10 min. down the road. That the town is alive every summer with live theatre, Gaelic Music, Art Festivals, parades, Highland Festival, etc. And then there's the awesome scenery. -- The girls and boys who come to Beaver Dam Farm for summer internships come for a variety of reasons. They come for the horses, of course, but they also come for the Canadian experience. Some come to complete requirements of their schools. Many European schools require that students do an internship each year. Some of which even require that the Internship takes place in an English speaking country. We've had several European students who've been all over the world on summer internships. It's wonderful for them. These schools have to approve the internship, and we've never been turned down. -- All the schools that have sent students are particularly interested in us because we are a legitimate business and have a long-term record. We had an intern from France last year. She was a student at an Agricultural College. -- She loved horses, but only as a hobby. -- She was most interested in agricultural research. -- Her school wrote to us thanking us profusely for accepting Agnes into our program. To this school, it was very important that we assured them that Agnes would be integrated into our family and that we'd do our best to see that she met the local people and had a good interaction with them. They particularly asked that she be given plenty of time to watch Canadian television. -- When Agnes returned to school, she had to submit a long, detailed, bound report on her experience. When it was finished, she sent us a copy, and it was absolutely fabulous. She had to analyze our business, as well as the people and culture of our locality. -- A couple of things I remember about the report . . . Agnes said that unlike France, in Canada you couldn't tell by how people dressed if they had money or not. She also commented on the food Canadians eat . . . She said she was astonished by visits to the supermarket because half the store was junk food, and the other half diet food. -- We thought that was a funny observation. One of our interns this year is required by her school to get experience managing some small part of our business. She'll get that experience this summer. So again, our program isn't for everybody. The young people who come to us have good attitudes, and our permanent staff Jaimie Benoit and Kelly MacDonald are marvelous at making them feel at home and making sure that they learn what they came to learn and have a great time doing it. -- For some of the interns, their stay with us is a great holiday. For others, it's a great opportunity to learn how to run an equine business. -- Kind Regards, Carol Rivoire Then I can't help thinking: Shouldn't these girls/boys be paid for all the work they do? Even an au pair gets some money. Surely if you expect them to do all this work alone. Sounds like more than cheap labor to me. A friend of mine here in TN pays a 13 year old boy 5$ an hour to clean his stables. No charge for the program sounds a bit absurd to me. But hey, who am I? What do I know? Ellen. Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II, Ltd. Phone: 902-386-2304 Fax: 902-386-2149 URL: www.beaverdamfarm.com E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raised by the Sea in Health and Tranquility Visit our NEW Riding Vacation page on our website today!
Re: Thank you
This message is from: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Being new here... I'd be interested to know Hostar's story. I'm just learning about the Fjord horse and I'm certian it's the horse for me. In another week or so I should be a new owner if all goes well!!:) Can anyone give information on trimming the manes? Is there a guide to go by?... Do you need special blades etc. Thanks so much for any help that can be given. Beth ---Original Message--- From: Pat Holland Date: 04/28/06 11:37:30 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Thank you This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Melinda for the kind words regarding Hostar. It is a testimony to this breed we all love, I have never worked with ANY breed with more of a willingness to survive and please. Hostar's story is one for the books. All of you buy these horses, because there's something you see in them. ] Maybe it's what happened originally in Norway - where there was never a written document regarding a breed standard - maybe what these Fjord horses give to us can not be put down on paper. It's just felt. I should add I could not have made one ounce of improvement with Hostar without the support of Melinda, she is a trainers dream owner, compassionate, trusting and never takes a step without her heart along stride. Respectfully Pat Holland [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of IMSTP.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type Image/jpeg which had a name of 197870_c.jpg]
whip it GOOD
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/27/2006 11:23:54 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a parelli stick without the string. I hold it up in the air Hi List ! Im getting quite a pause over this discussion about pushy Fjords. Im also getting the feeling that with all the alternative methods around to school this behavior I would put in my 2 cents. ( May not be worth even that. ) * My Fancy Sticks Bought another stick on-line today This really is getting quite old Dont even ask what I had to pay ! ( My bank account's leaving me cold ) These Fjords it seems are never through From pushing limits with me Running me down for a flake of hay And squashing me like a flea I tried the WAND from Tellington-Jones Sure set me back a bit ! Came inside a nicely wrapped box My husband 'bout had a fit The Fjords, well they pretty much ignored When I waved it in their face Just ate their grain, stepped on my foot And said get out of MY space ! So next I went the Peralli route We really had a blast Did the levels, played all the games Now my foots in a cast. I called in Lyonsand tigars and bears A COURSE is what I need ! One hundred thousand dollars later Im to broke to follow his creed So off I go to the barn tonight To put some Fjords away They spun around, they threw me down All over that #$%^* flake of hay ! Shrake and Clintin can eat my dust Im through with paying these guys My money's safe, my ego is bruised From now on, no more lies ! The BULL WHIP for sale on E-Bay today Seemed just like what I need Things around here are about to change Starting when I go out to feed As Cosby said on that TV show, the beatings have just begun Been a very nice long ride for them Now its MY time for fun ! So Pay Pal I went, next day USPO And outside to see my Fjord look everyone, another stick ! they said Pinning me in the gate they almost looked bored. So I let loose with all my might Rawhide chunks flying left and right They ran ! I circled ! It was a fight No BULL you guysthat whip was light ! It hissed and cracked in the air like FIRE Fjords ducked and dove and flew They couldnt get far enough AWAY from me ! This sure beats black and blue ! No more whispering to these darn fools Its BEATINGS they seem to crave No wand, no stick or games to play MOMS IN CHARGE is all the rave You all can keep your own set of rules Whisper ( shh ) to your Fjords all day Mine only hear when I hollar to them BULLWHIP'S COMMING OUT TO PLAY Lisa ( hiding down here )
Re: Fjords rule
This message is from: mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your kind words, Ann! I did see Van Zimmerman as he was leaving to go out on the marathon. Linda and I finished up about noon and headed for home (after the front loader pulled our rig out of the mud!) before the rest had gone--got home about 8, but at least it was still daylight. Re: Navigating. It is a blast. I don't have a horse of my own that I can compete at CDE at this time (I do have a wonderful fjord gelding, but we're not ready for that yet--and he's almost as old as I am to boot!), BUT the challenge of figuring out the hazards and pacing the horses is such an interesting thing. I absolutely love it. To say nothing of the adrenalin rush. This is the second time I've 'gatored at Lord Stirling for Linda (she drives a buckskin Morgan named Yukon Gold aka Kody) --she's been competing in this sport for 20 years, so is a great teacher/mentor. I 'gator primarily for Marsha Korose and her marvelous fjord pair--Ulend and Solvar. We've done ADTs and last spring our first CDE at Elk Creek where Marsha won training pair pony. And we'll be there this year -- I'll be at My Lady's Manor in May with Linda, and as 'gator for Mary Jo Graber and her mustang/percheron Smokey at the Laurels. It requires balance and muscle and a sense of the physics of things to 'gator and you know how much work is involved in that kind of a competition--but the camaradery, the delight in the wonderful horses, and the fun is just indescribable. Although with the _weather_ at Lord Stirling this year, it might be considered mass masochism! COLD and WET and SOUPY. I did get a couple of pictures of you and will send them on when we get back from vacation next week and I get my camera unloaded. Also, did you notice that the competition program featured a painting of a fjord on the cover, that Beval Saddlery's add featured a fjord, and that the center picture section also showed a fjord (I think it is you!). A pretty good showing. You all did yourselves and the breed proud! Sue This message is from: Ed Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Sue, for your kind words after Lord Stirling, I didn't get to visit with you, as is so often the case at shows -- Magz and Ree had a great first time out, they have a wonderful bond. We are all sooo proud of the kid, and her horse. There was one other fjordhorse there, Van Zimmerman's lovely mare Tasja, who is currently pictured on the NFHR homepage. She is a big strong Hjerter-Knaecht granddaughter, a very nice mover -- he drives Prelim. Maryke and I slipped to fourth place after marathon, we came in 30 seconds late. The conditions were challenging, to say the least, so I drove for my horse, not the clock, to paraphrase Pam Pruitt. We came in on time in sections A and D, but I didn't push her in section E, it was pretty tough going out there, and we were the first ones out on the track !! Must have really been crazy later in the day when you went out (Everybody, Sue is too modest to mention that she navigated for her friend Linda Kalman and her pair - -- what a woman!). This was Maryke's first and only real CDE -- I am so happy with her condition and work ethic at 19, and after so many foals -- she recovers beautifully after the stress of marathoning -- we passed the vet checks with flying colors, which was about my only goal for this season! From now on she will only be asked to do shorter distances like driving trials and club drives. Biddy took her to an arena trial earlier this spring, and will drive her at Haddam Meadows, a local trial, in May. Going outside now to polish the brass on the road cart -- we didn't use it because of the conditions, but it was sooo wet this weekend I have to re-polish and re-Saran Wrap it before storing -- dang, showing is taking up all of my driving time again !!! Happy spring, Ann S. in CT - - Original Message - From: mom Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:42 PM To: fjordhorse-digest Subject: Fjords rule! This message is from: mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] And congratulations to Maggie and Ann Sullivan and their lovely fjords! They placed first and second in the training single pony division under cold, wet, dreary conditions. --
Re: whip it GOOD
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hooray Lisa, some kind of poet there and I am not concerned about that bull whip! Yuh got to do what yuh got to do!!! Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
Re: whip it GOOD
This message is from: Lisa Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa, I always love what you write and do agree that sometimes you just need to tell an animal what you want and to do it now. I don't think the whip sends the message I want to give. I want my horse to understand that I want him out of my space. I want him to learn to back off if he gets to forward. I don't want to carry a whip in one hand forever. I made some progress today for the first time I know Loki understands. This was worth taking the time to teach him what I mean. He got into my space today and I said CH. He looked at me and backed off. I was so pleased! I said to myself He gets it!. Of course then I left my wheel barrow to get another fork full of manure. Turned around for a second and his foot was in it. The wheel barrow tipped and I had to pick up the manure again. Oh well I am still making progress! Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose FASTeam www.MyTurnabout.com www.CookiesAlaDuck.com
Foal announcement!
This message is from: Steve Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] My dear, red dun mare, NFR Aagot, has given birth to a big, handsome, red dun Fernando colt! We plan to register him as TK Arlo. I am so proud of him I can't hardly contain myself. Shaggy knows I love him as much as she does and she acts as though she is wanting to share him with me. She is such a good mom! The red dun mare and foal are so lovely together, such a beautiful color! He has a very interesting pedigree: Fernando, Grabb and Solar. I don't think he has Grabb's laid back attitude like his mom and sister do, I think he is going to be more like my Dorina, a little on the feisty side. I hope he gets his moms bone and smooth trot; and his sires rounder butt, upheadedness and nice gaits. If anyone would like to see some photos of him, send me a tell [EMAIL PROTECTED], I have lots of nice photos of him to show off. Howard and Sophie and Ann-Marie Fisher and my friends and relatives have had their email boxes inundated with foal pics for over a week now! He is so full of beans and weenies he was a handful to handle before he was steady on his feet. We did the Dr. Miller stuff with him the first day. He forgets himself sometimes and tries to play with me, but I remind him to back off with a grump and an air push and he respects that. He is already doing the porcupine game very nicely. But he is so strong, I will have to get him haltered and leading soon cause it is a major ordeal just to give him his probiotics and other stuff that needs doing. He is my first colt and I know there is not as much room for mistakes with the boys as there is with the sweet little fillies. I am so smitten with him, I have been enjoying him so much! Meredith Sessoms Moulton, Alabama, USA ~ Dorina, NFR Aagot, TK Anjanette, TK Arlo and Pepper the black one ~
