dressage fjord
This message is from: briar hill farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for a Fjord gelding for sale on the west coast with solid dressage training. Please email me privately. Marcy The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Royal birthday (OT, but Norwegian related)
This message is from: Linda Lehnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yesterday (Wednesday) was HM King Harald's 70th birthday. ZDF, one of the German networks, had a whole hour special on him and on the festivities, which began with a church service in the Oslo Cathedral, and will continue all week. He is much loved by the Norwegian people and said what he wanted for his birthday was something for the Norwegian people. The Storting (parliament) gave him a statue of his mother, a Swedish princess on the grounds of the royal palace; he had tears in his eyes when it unveiled. I thought this news would be interesting to people interested in things Norwegian. Linda in Alanya today it's FREE! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
New member Intro
This message is from: Cortney Lannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, I'm new to the group and wanted to offer a short intro My name is Cortney and I live in PA with my hubby and two children and of course our horses and dogs. I do not own a Fjord, but have one on my wishlist. We have 7 horses of varying breeds. Prince - Paint Collada - Paint Gem - Paint Chex - Half Arab Blondie - Welsh Snickers - Welsh Smudge - Welsh My daughter and I ride English and began competing in local competitions last year. I'm here to learn what I can until the day finally comes that I FINALLY can have my own fjord. Cortney in PA Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I have just taken the plunge to do barefoot trimming with Gunthar and Rom. I decided to do it with Gunthar because his soles are so flat, and I had seen barefoot trimming turn my friend's bad-footed off the track TB into a concave-soled shoeless trail horse. So.I took Gunthar over yesterday to be done. Linda Cowles (www.healthyhoof.com http://www.healthyhoof.com/ ) pointed out that Gunthar had long toes, and a flare that made the front slope of his hoof look like a ski slope (not terrible..more like the DoubleDiamond run than the Bunny Hill). She trimmed him and I put him out in the arena and moved him around a bit. It was amazing. My clumsy Gunthar was doing flying lead changes, which is NOT like him. He normally canters only as a last resort, and when he does, he travels with his nose down, in a sort of bucking position, that looks like he is trying to find his balance. (His head moves as though he is trying to stir water in a bucket on the ground..not graceful at the canter.) His trot even looked better. It used to be a more rounded baroque type look, but now is a much smoother, flowing trot. Who knows, maybe he will feel so much better that he will not spook. ??? After that, I decided I should really have Rom done. I brought him up, and Linda immediately pointed out that his toes were long, and that he was slapping his feet down because his toes were long. This confirmed what I had noticed. He had been stumbling badly at a WALK on trails, even shortly after a trim, and I had thought his toes were long. I had asked my farrier about it, and he saw nothing wrong. This is a farrier who is very, very good, so I took his word for it. When I had Linda trim him, Rom had JUST had his farrier trim him a week and a half before. I had not noticed him stumbling as yet, but I do believe it would have happened very soon. So..we will see how this works out. One thing Linda used was a rolling mechanics stool (with a tool tray below). She buys it at Harbor Freight for $10 on sale, or $25 regularly. I could not find it in their catalog. What she has looks somewhat like this http://www.amazon.com/Larin-LRS-4-Roller-Seat-Tool/dp/B000FAMO4A/sr=1-48/qid =1172174511/ref=sr_1_48/002-6671444-8211216?ie=UTF8 http://www.amazon.com/Larin-LRS-4-Roller-Seat-Tool/dp/B000FAMO4A/sr=1-48/qi d=1172174511/ref=sr_1_48/002-6671444-8211216?ie=UTF8s=automotive s=automotive only, maybe with slightly bigger wheels. She sits on it and holds the horse's hoof, cannon bone and knee in her lap. The horses seems to love it. It looks dangerous to me, but the horses settled really well, to the point where we did not even have to hold the leads. Linda's website is AWESOME. Read her case studies, and the articles she suggests to read along with them. She used to be a salesperson for a dot com company. What Linda is doing is NOT the Strasser method. She is not carving away sole. Here is a mini-testimonial from a friend of mine re barefoot trimming: I too am doing bare foot trimming. We (Sara, Barb, and I) had a horse measuring party last Monday at our place. We measured the bare foot in every direction as recommended by easy care and will buy easy boots at the convention. Barbara's horse was stumbling terrible and cranky, short strided, etc. and when she went to bare foot trimming he stopped stumbling, less cranky, and his stride improved dramatically..unbelievable! (This friend is an endurance rider.) One point Linda makes is that barefoot trimming is a commitment to going without shoes because it is not easy to put shoes on a foot with rolled edges. She points out, and this is logical, that farriers are taught to trim a foot in such a way that a shoe could be put on it. (While my farrier does nip a bit off the front of the toes on my barefoot horses, he generally just makes the bottom of the foot a smooth plane). The good news is that the Easy Boot Epics appear much easier to put on and off. It appears that the gator acts as an additional mechanism for holding the boot on, so they do not have to be fitted quite as tight as the normal Easy Boots did. Soon, we hope Gunthar's feet get to go on the website. I will let you know how this works out. I bought a green fiberglass HoofJack because I think the metal (cheaper ones) are not as safe. Will keep you posted. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #46
This message is from: Michele Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] We got our Fjord Herald too! We should order two. We share it so much, It gets all worn out. I took it to a new friend that raises Paint Horses and said Here, Read this, I know we all love to read Breed magazines She could not believe the Quality and that we got them 4 times a year For FREE!, just for being members. I think she is VERY Jealous. HEE HEE! Once again I am amazed at what a dedicated bunch of people we have in this breed! Good Job! We made a DVD of our Mare for Sale. WHR Tonetta, not a fun thing to do, when she is still covered in winter fur and mud and she is starting to show her pregnancy too. You can view her ad on Dreamhorse.com or Agdirect.com Now I am going to attempt the YouTube thing! PS. We will be standing Anvil's Morgan this breeding season. Live Cover only. If you are interested, give us a email [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Michele Noonan Stevensville, MT (4 hours from Spokane, WA) (1/2 hour from Missoula, MT) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
thick and thin
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i got to experience first hand the difference that can be seen in the build of some horses. on sunday heike brought thor down to the barn where oz is boarded, and did as she has been threatening to doshe put me on him and gave me a lunge line lesson, the first i have ever had. i have to admit to being apprehensive at first, but once i relaxed and started to trust him (and her), things got better and to the point of being fun. he has a very forward, speedy trot, especially compared to oz. i was posting without hands, doing arm spinning, holding them over my head, etc., and he very patiently put up with the learning.and ya know, my balance was better than i expected. when we were done, i saddled up my big pony, and my legs were very aware of how much wider oz is than thor. but the feeling of the quick, forward trot was still with me, and i got oz going quite nicely. we tend to plod along, but this was different. there was quite a bit of activity in the arena, but every time he started paying attention to another horse, i quickly turned him and went into another pattern. it was a good ride. i think we have learned quite a lot in the past few months. last night he got his mane roached down so it can grow in straight for spring. he didn't mind the clippers at all, and when i turned him loose for a run in the arena he free lunged himself nicely in both directions, at all three gaits and then stopped and waited for me to go get him. then he did his heeling puppy imitation and followed me all over. what a treasure he is turning out to be. laurie, and oz, the bald ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I love my Hoof Jack. And I like my Bud's nippers even more. Hoof Jack: http://www.hoofjack.com/ Bud's nippers: http://www.budnippers.com/ I'm not affiliated with either company. DeeAnna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Pasture management
This message is from: Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pasture in San Diego is usually a euphemism for dry lot. Land is so expensive and rain so scarce that it's almost impossible to have enough space that anything green grows once you turn out a horse. So, I know virtually nothing about pasture management. In addition to my main farm which is entirely dry lot, I own a small piece of acreage (about 2 1/2 acres) which is immediately adjacent to my tenants rental property - a half hour drive from the main farm. It's been vacant for 7 years, so it actually has grass and it has lots of oak trees. Now as I have one retired horse and foals on the way, I think that rotating some of the horses out to the other field for RR would do them some good. But I remember that it has been mentioned on this list that oak trees are not good for horses, although a horse did live in that pasture before we bought it. Do any of you who have real pasture have any suggestions on how to best manage and utilize my auxiliary pasture? If the tenants grazed their sheep there first would the sheep eat the acorns or would that be bad for the sheep? Sarah in Jamul - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, I am just curious why you assess your previous shoer as very very good, when both your horses had toes that were too long and were moving poorly? FYI I have 6 horses at the moment and all are barefoot, except the 4th level warmblood who got shoes at 3rd level when he started bruising his heels on the medium trots. One of the Fjord mares got 60% at first level barefoot. (no easy boots) My farrier loves the Fjords; he says they all have great temperament and great feet. I live near San Diego, where we've had about 3 inches of rain since November, and the horses are always out, so I think it's easier for them to keep their feet tough than in wet climates or if they live in stalls. Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell Well, I have just taken the plunge to do barefoot trimming with Gunthar and Rom. This is a farrier who is very, very good, so I took his word for it. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good for you!! I am a firm believer in barefoot. I will not go into all of my stories but I do want to share that my 2 Ford mares have both really changed since going barefoot. I had the same experiences you did after I bought my first one, wouldn't canter unless absolutely no other choice was available -even with the other horses in the pasture- she has a very fast trot and she relied on it! Her soles were flat, long toes, the whole story. Now she loves to canter and plays like the other horses. She doesn't stumble on the trails, I rode her on a gravel trail for 3+ hours last weekend and not one gimpy step. My other one came with shoes on -she had to be sedated to get them on the last few times according to her owner. I had her shoes pulled, and she has been barefoot for about 6 months now and moves like a horse who is much younger than her 24 years, cantering for fun and playing with the other horses. If I need to, I use hoof boots, but the longer they are barefoot, the thicker and more concave the soles get, the less I have to use boots. Don't get me started on my Arab mare with a club foot, 6 years of chronic foot problems, who is now sound for 1 1/2 yrs and under saddle for the first time in 3 years. The Strasser trim did not work well for her, but 18 months of the Ramey method sure did! And her foot doesn't look clubbed any more - hmm. Hang in there. The hardest thing is waiting for everything to grow in the way it is supposed to, but it is sure worth it! My 8 barefoot horses can go about 12 weeks now without a major trim, and I have no cracks, chips, thrush, etc. We're lovin' it! On 2/22/07, Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I have just taken the plunge to do barefoot trimming with Gunthar and Rom. I decided to do it with Gunthar because his soles are so flat, and I had seen barefoot trimming turn my friend's bad-footed off the track TB into a concave-soled shoeless trail horse. So.I took Gunthar over yesterday to be done. Linda Cowles (www.healthyhoof.com http://www.healthyhoof.com/ ) pointed out that Gunthar had long toes, and a flare that made the front slope of his hoof look like a ski slope (not terrible..more like the DoubleDiamond run than the Bunny Hill). She trimmed him and I put him out in the arena and moved him around a bit. It was amazing. My clumsy Gunthar was doing flying lead changes, which is NOT like him. He normally canters only as a last resort, and when he does, he travels with his nose down, in a sort of bucking position, that looks like he is trying to find his balance. (His head moves as though he is trying to stir water in a bucket on the ground..not graceful at the canter.) His trot even looked better. It used to be a more rounded baroque type look, but now is a much smoother, flowing trot. Who knows, maybe he will feel so much better that he will not spook. ??? After that, I decided I should really have Rom done. I brought him up, and Linda immediately pointed out that his toes were long, and that he was slapping his feet down because his toes were long. This confirmed what I had noticed. He had been stumbling badly at a WALK on trails, even shortly after a trim, and I had thought his toes were long. I had asked my farrier about it, and he saw nothing wrong. This is a farrier who is very, very good, so I took his word for it. When I had Linda trim him, Rom had JUST had his farrier trim him a week and a half before. I had not noticed him stumbling as yet, but I do believe it would have happened very soon. So..we will see how this works out. One thing Linda used was a rolling mechanics stool (with a tool tray below). She buys it at Harbor Freight for $10 on sale, or $25 regularly. I could not find it in their catalog. What she has looks somewhat like this http://www.amazon.com/Larin-LRS-4-Roller-Seat-Tool/dp/B000FAMO4A/sr=1-48/qid =1172174511/ref=sr_1_48/002-6671444-8211216?ie=UTF8 http://www.amazon.com/Larin-LRS-4-Roller-Seat-Tool/dp/B000FAMO4A/sr=1-48/qi d=1172174511/ref=sr_1_48/002-6671444-8211216?ie=UTF8s=automotive s=automotive only, maybe with slightly bigger wheels. She sits on it and holds the horse's hoof, cannon bone and knee in her lap. The horses seems to love it. It looks dangerous to me, but the horses settled really well, to the point where we did not even have to hold the leads. Linda's website is AWESOME. Read her case studies, and the articles she suggests to read along with them. She used to be a salesperson for a dot com company. What Linda is doing is NOT the Strasser method. She is not carving away sole. Here is a mini-testimonial from a friend of mine re barefoot trimming: I too am doing bare foot trimming. We (Sara, Barb, and I) had a horse measuring party last Monday at our place. We measured the bare foot in
Re: Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Same here! I found that the Beloti rasps are the longest lasting and really nice and sharp. (WEAR GLOVES!) On 2/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I love my Hoof Jack. And I like my Bud's nippers even more. Hoof Jack: http://www.hoofjack.com/ Bud's nippers: http://www.budnippers.com/ I'm not affiliated with either company. DeeAnna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, I am just curious why you assess your previous shoer as very very good, when both your horses had toes that were too long and were moving poorly? Just that he is the best shoer I have been able to find around here, after going thru about eight of them. I understand what you are saying though. Part of the problem is that I have, against my better judgment, cooperated with my funds-challenged neighbor in setting shoeing/trimming dates 8 weeks apart a couple times, and then my farrier has had to postpone a couple times because (a) his wonderful assistant landed in jail due to one too many DUI's and (b) my farrier's grandmother died and he was gone for a couple of weeks. I do think my very first farrier was a bit more careful about really studying the horse's hoof and gaits, but he moved to Oregon and I had a couple years of really bad problems with finding a decent farrier. Some of my horses have been OK for easier footing trail rides barefoot, but not when the sharp gravel starts showing up. My horses live in about 1/2 acre paddocks where they can run around a bit, which also helps. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: Lola Lahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] We live in NW Oregon and my horses have 24/7 access to pasture and barn. They put themselves into the barn and stalls (first come, first served, some share) at night and when it rains really hard and it's cold. Since we started the 24/7 access to turn out last summer, their feet have *really*started to look like the good feet pictures. On 2/22/07, Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, I am just curious why you assess your previous shoer as very very good, when both your horses had toes that were too long and were moving poorly? FYI I have 6 horses at the moment and all are barefoot, except the 4th level warmblood who got shoes at 3rd level when he started bruising his heels on the medium trots. One of the Fjord mares got 60% at first level barefoot. (no easy boots) My farrier loves the Fjords; he says they all have great temperament and great feet. I live near San Diego, where we've had about 3 inches of rain since November, and the horses are always out, so I think it's easier for them to keep their feet tough than in wet climates or if they live in stalls. Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell Well, I have just taken the plunge to do barefoot trimming with Gunthar and Rom. This is a farrier who is very, very good, so I took his word for it. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Lady in Florida interested in fjords. Will be visiting Ohio
This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] A woman contacted me today who lives about an hour and a half from me on the west coast of Florida. She has draft horses now but is getting older and is interested in looking at fjords. She will be making a visit to Ohio soon. She is aware of Sorum Farms and I think planning to try and visit there. Are there other farms in Ohio or nearby that she could visit? She would be looking for a quiet,well-broke horse for trail-riding and some lower level English or Western showing (I think like western pleasure or walk-trot type of stuff) depending on what the horse is trained for. Robin Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some of my horses have been OK for easier footing trail rides barefoot, but not when the sharp gravel starts showing up. Gail Hi Gail: I too am a proponent of going barefoot whenever possible. All three of my horses are barefoot now. Lana was very lame, when her shoes were first pulled, for several weeks until her hooves toughened up (and grew out a bit). Geier had no issues after his shoes were pulled. This was right after they came home. They both run, jump, buck with no problems. Now Sunny is a totally different story. He has never been shod in his 9 years. I have had him 5 years, and until I had the farrier come to pull Geier's shoes, Sunny had not even been trimmed. It really bothered me because I had never heard of or had a horse whose hooves were self maintaining. The farrier looked at them, trimmed a partial chip off one hind and called it good. He said Sunny's feet are wearing just fine, angle is good etc. Sunny has never been lame or sore and is very active. They are all on a dry lot that is partially exposed sandstone bedrock that wears the hooves down nicely. I have hopes that eventually Lana's and Geiers's hooves will become just as tough. It is my understanding that regular trimming for the first year after shoes have been pulled is needed if you intend to go barefoot long-term; more to help with shaping while the hoof relaxes into a natural form. -- Lois Anne, Wayne, Gallant Geier and the Lovely Lana from Montana Tell me, and I'll probably forget. Show me, and I will remember, Involve me, and I will understand. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
New Subscriber Introduction Seeking a Fjord Gelding
This message is from: Emily Wigley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Fjord Enthusiasts, My name is Emily Wigley, and I live on Vashon Island, Washington, US. Our Fjord is enjoyed both as a family horse by our my teen daughter (when she wants something really obedient and different from her own horse) and me, and as a school horse in my riding school. I teach English riding to children and adults, specializing in beginners. Nothing is better than seeing a person trot or canter for the first time on a Fjord! Her name is Lite Jenta, and we call her Buttermilk Biscuit she is a Lite Jenta, but she is such a little biscuit, it just fits, so we call her that too! Biscuit is 12, coming 13, and is 14.1, fit as a fiddle and g-o-r-g-e-o-u-s! But you all know that, she's a Fjord! One of my favorite things about Biscuit is her instant read of my students - she knows who needs to be challenged (ask correctly or I'll never do what you want!) or cared for with caution. She is a gem of a teaching partner, and I adore her. At 14.1 she is my small-horse-big-pony, and anyone can ride her. I still remind myself when dismounting that she is lower to the ground than the other horses I ride, as I am 5'11. One of my students is looking for a Fjord, and if you know of a nice one who fits the bill, please be in touch with me. We seek a 9+ year old gelding with very solid training and life experience for arena work, trail riding and general fun. A pleasant, unflappable horse who goes well in the arena and on the trail in a snaffle bit would have a fantastic home with this man, and will be boarded at my farm (lucky me!). Please let me know if you know a Fjord who would fit; we are willing to travel in Washington, Oregon, and B.C and maybe a little farther if the horse is really right! Negotiable for price. Thank you! I look forward to reading and learning from this list! Emily Emily Wigley Fish Bowl Farm Vashon Island, Washington http://www.fishbowlfarm.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 206-463-5473 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Pasture management
This message is from: fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sarah, You will want to learn about MIG which stands for Management Intensive Grazing.It is used extensively for cattle and dairy cows but also works well for horses. There are a number of excellent sites about it on the internet. Here is a link to one of them: http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/summaries/sustpast.html Even on small plots of land, by following the MIG best practices, you should be able to use your pasture and still maintain quality forage. This is an excerpt from the University of Minnesota Extension Service: Most species of oaks (Quercus sp) contain toxic phenolic compounds (tannins). Large quantities of young leaves and sprouts are toxic when consumed in spring, as are green acorns when ingested in the fall. Poisoning occurs when over half the diet is oak buds or acorns, for several days. Symptoms appear several days after the period of consumption and include abdominal pains, weakness, anorexia, colic, constipation, depression, diarrhea, presence of blood in urine, jaundice, and death. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA -Original Message- From: Sarah Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:15 PM To: Fjord List Subject: Pasture management This message is from: Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pasture in San Diego is usually a euphemism for dry lot. Land is so expensive and rain so scarce that it's almost impossible to have enough space that anything green grows once you turn out a horse. So, I know virtually nothing about pasture management. In addition to my main farm which is entirely dry lot, I own a small piece of acreage (about 2 1/2 acres) which is immediately adjacent to my tenants rental property - a half hour drive from the main farm. It's been vacant for 7 years, so it actually has grass and it has lots of oak trees. Now as I have one retired horse and foals on the way, I think that rotating some of the horses out to the other field for RR would do them some good. But I remember that it has been mentioned on this list that oak trees are not good for horses, although a horse did live in that pasture before we bought it. Do any of you who have real pasture have any suggestions on how to best manage and utilize my auxiliary pasture? If the tenants grazed their sheep there first would the sheep eat the acorns or would that be bad for the sheep? Sarah in Jamul - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Barefoot Trimming
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] My grumpy, twenty four year old Gunnar has small, hard and dark hooves. He is stocky and about 13.3hands. He is my only horse now so I sometimes forget when the farrier is coming. James just walks out into the field and does Gunnar without a halter. He is interrupted only when Gunnar needs a bite of grass. Gunnar never has long toes and is barefoot always. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: about colic
This message is from: Rose or Murph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the info Steve. It was between 12-15 hours in to the colic when we had the tap done followed by euthanizing. In my heart I could tell it was the end because I knew this horse so well as he was not responding to normal treatment. We had an autopsy done and it was found that my gelding had a fatty tumor that had previously been growing and swinging freely in the abdomen. It was thought that with bucking or running, the tumor swung over the intestine and pulled tight cutting off the blood supply. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve A White Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:39 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: about colic This message is from: Steve A White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rosemary and list, You are right. The belly tap is a good test to run to tell if a horse needs surgery or not or if it should be euthanized. It is relatively safe and can be performed in the stable/barn by your veterinarian. It does have its limitations. For example, early in the course of a colic episode there might not be any changes to the abdominal fluid yet, giving you a false sense that everything is ok. Or if you wait too long to look for changes to show up then you might be too late for surgery to help. The tap does not tell if you have a blockage or not. It just tells you the condition of the abdomen and its organs. For instance, if the horse had a twisted intestine you would see increased protein and later blood. But you would also see that if it just had a bad colitis. If there was infection you would see white blood cells. Cancer cells will sometimes be found if there is a tumor. With foals we will sometimes find urine if the bladder was ruptured at birth. As with any test you have to put all the pieces together (history, physical exam, lab work, etc.) to get the diagnosis. Steve White, DVM Gretna, NE The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: weather woes
This message is from: Rose or Murph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robin, you are funny freezing in the 50's. That is shorts weather for us in the pacific Northwest. Rosemary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Churchill Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:43 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: weather woes This message is from: Robin Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know you guys feel real sorry for me when I am complaining about freezing when the daytime high is 50 degrees. Us Florida people always make the excuse that it just feel much colder down here because of the wind. Last winter when I went to get some roofing material and it was one of the few days we had in the 50s, they told me I had to get there by noon because they would be quitting early due to the cold temps. You will be laughing in summer when you have great temps and we are down here flooded and suffocated getting carried off by mosquitos and no see-ums. Robin --- Tamarack Lamb Wool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Tamarack Lamb Wool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robin, I will try to remember your hay difficulties the next time I'm slogging through snow or warming frozen toes! I just picked up twenty two 1500 pound bales @ $35 per bale ($46 per ton) of a very nice upland grass hay stored indoors. Janet The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #46
This message is from: L Hesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Treeless saddles I can highly recommend a Torsion. I ride in the trail saddle, not their Endurance model. I used to ride strictly Western. I have very bad osteo-arthritis in the hips and pelvis, which is why I ride a Fjord. Go to www.torsion-canada.ca and Wendy or Heidi can give you more information on the Torsions. The Torsion seat is much like a dressage seat, deep and conforming to both horse and rider. It is full contact and takes some time for both the horse and rider to get used to. Heidi advise that during the first couple of weeks, you keep your riding time to 30 - 45 minutes and up it from there. I find I can ride in the Torsion now for 3 hours with no discomfort to either my old Fjord, Sally, who is 20 something with mild arthritis in the shoulders, or myself, and I am near 50. I consider myself to be a mildly handi-capped rider and the treeless helps me free up my pelvis more quickly which in turn provides less stress on my mounts back. Hope this helps, Laura Hesse and Sally www.runninglproductions.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
