Re: colitis? digestive upset?

[UniGrove]

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We feed a program of forage and grain that is served wet and do not worry 
about impactions at all.  It is a combination of alfalfa/timothy cubes, chopped 
forage and a grain mix of 30%whole oats, 30%barley, 30% wheat bran,and 10% 
black oil sunflower seed.  The grain mix is made in small batches.  Feed is 
prepared with the cubes in the bottom of the bucket, then the grain mix, then 
the 
chopped hay and additives.  The entire bucket is soaked for a solid count of 
ten 
with a fine nozzle spray.  The feed is then dumped into the floor pans for 
each horse to eat.  This puts the chopped hay back at the bottom soaking up the 
most water.  The horses adore this food and the slurping and lip smacking is a 
joy to hear.  Long stem hay is fed in amounts related to the available grass 
and time of year.  We have to be very careful here in Kentucky as the grass 
can be too rich and plentiful for our little air ferns.  Most of the spring and 
early summer they have to wear grazing muzzles.  I have finally created two 
dry lots by putting up 50 foot Priefert pens and getting them well grazed down. 
 
Fjords just cannot be kept  ad lib on grass down here.  This time of year, 
especially after such a dry summer, it is wonderful for them to be able to be 
out longer on the small amount of grass in the fields.  Sharon Abbott



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Fjord shirt on ebay

[Russ and Laurie Lamb]

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Just thought I'd share this with you all. I found an auction on ebay for a
sweatshirt with a really nice Fjord embroidered on it. She has some other
designs too, but this was my favorite. I'm really surprised that no one has
bid on it. Take a look. Auction ends tomorrow morning.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330169990292&ssPageNa
me=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014

If the link doesn't work, the item number is 330169990292.

Laurie in NW Washington

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RE: question for the list

[kate charboneau]

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A friend has a Haflinger gelding who has all the same physical symptoms,
and has received all the same care as the Fjord you wrote about.  After
all was said and done, we now know this horse must be on dry lot with
Orchard grass hay.  No other type of hay will do, and any pasture at all
is too much.  We figured out that other hay might be all "grass hay" but
several bales will be leaner, then the next bale might be a little
richer, so he'll do fine for a couple weeks then get loose again.  His
full brother does fine on any type of hay, and fine on pasture, but since
they are a team, and the only horses on the place, they both live
comfortably with this regimine.



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RE: bad farrier-good farrier

[kate charboneau]

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Oh, Laurie, I'm so sorry.  This type of blunder takes so long to grow
out.  Thank goodness Oz had enough hoof left to shoe.  When we got our
first Clydesdale we left him there and returned the next week with the
trailer.  When we returned to pick him up, the owner had done us a
"favor" and trimmed him for us.  Clydesdales have poor feet in the best
of times (2000# on soft white hooves).  We had our farrier out ASAP,
there was not enough hoof left to shoe.  It took a month before he was
sound, and months to get a decent hoof grown back.  We were some kind of
hot over this, I still get steamed up when I think about it (now 7 years
later) so I can relate.  I'd be tempted to send him a copy of the two
bills you'll have for correcting his blunder, along with a letter, since
he won't return your calls.



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Re: Question for the list

[Big Horn Forge Daniel Nauman]

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Patti Jo,

First, I am not a Vet OR a Doctor, but I just read of this same
condition in a person. Believe it or not, it was constipation! The
diarrhea was an overflow (around the hard stool in the intestine). The
person was put on laxatives until the stool was passed. (About a week)
A lot of water had to be consumed also. Bowel movements returned to
normal after that. Have a Vet thoroughly examine this horse before
doing anything. The hard spot on his left side gives me pause. Sounds
like an impaction. We've all had our bouts with colic. Please let us
all know what the ailment was, and how the horse is doing. Good Luck.

Toni

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RE: colitis? digestive upset?

[Karen McCarthy]

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Great info Sharon, thanks for sharing!  I knew there was a right way to use 
this psysillium (sp) stuff. I have never given it routinely as I thought it 
was probably mostly hype. what your vet said to do makes sense to me. Now if 
we can just figure out a way to get prune juice to work on them ; -))


color=#330066 size=4>Karen McCarthy
Great 
Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon



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Original Message Follows
From: "Sharon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
To: 
Subject: RE: colitis? digestive upset?
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:05:22 -0700

This message is from: "Sharon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,
My horse suffered from on-again off-again digestive troubles for over a
year. Bloating. ploppy manure, then normal manure, girthyness, etc. Vet and
I couldn't figure it out. Current on wormings, good hay, no sand in manure,
and psyllium (I was using it wrong and for too few days at a time), etc. For
3 past episodes the vet oiled her, I rewormed, re-psyllium-ed incorrectly
etc and she was fine for a couple of months or so.

Looking back we can now say it was sand colic and or impaction colic that
would resolve itself (repeatedly). This last episode she went to the equine
hospital to get her pain sorted out. After xrays showed a bit of sand, she
was started on 1lb psyllium and oil, am and pm, for 7 days to clear her out.
Well she began to have more pain after the first treatment and went into
surgery to relieve the soccer ball sized hay impaction. He cleared the hay
and rinsed out the bit of sand she had. No intestine was removed. Surgeon
said if she could have told us she had a stomach ache when it started 2 days
prior, the psyllium and oil would have moved things along and worked. She's
fine now.

What I've learned is if a horse has unresolved, recurring digestive problems
best thing to do is start the 7 day, 2x/day psyllium powder routine. Surgeon
says it'll take care of problems 95% of the time. (wish I'd talked to him a
year ago).

Specifically: pour 1 cup of powdered psyllium over 2-3 handfuls of senior
feed or something similiar (no hard pellets), mix. Then drizzle on no more
than 2-3 tablespoons of corn, canola etc, oil and mix well and feed
immediately. Do not put water on the psyllium as it won't work if it gels up
before eaten and do not use pelleted psyllium.

Good luck,
Sharon

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RE: colitis? digestive upset?

[Sharon]

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Hi, 
My horse suffered from on-again off-again digestive troubles for over a
year. Bloating. ploppy manure, then normal manure, girthyness, etc. Vet and
I couldn't figure it out. Current on wormings, good hay, no sand in manure,
and psyllium (I was using it wrong and for too few days at a time), etc. For
3 past episodes the vet oiled her, I rewormed, re-psyllium-ed incorrectly
etc and she was fine for a couple of months or so. 

Looking back we can now say it was sand colic and or impaction colic that
would resolve itself (repeatedly). This last episode she went to the equine
hospital to get her pain sorted out. After xrays showed a bit of sand, she
was started on 1lb psyllium and oil, am and pm, for 7 days to clear her out.
Well she began to have more pain after the first treatment and went into
surgery to relieve the soccer ball sized hay impaction. He cleared the hay
and rinsed out the bit of sand she had. No intestine was removed. Surgeon
said if she could have told us she had a stomach ache when it started 2 days
prior, the psyllium and oil would have moved things along and worked. She's
fine now. 

What I've learned is if a horse has unresolved, recurring digestive problems
best thing to do is start the 7 day, 2x/day psyllium powder routine. Surgeon
says it'll take care of problems 95% of the time. (wish I'd talked to him a
year ago).

Specifically: pour 1 cup of powdered psyllium over 2-3 handfuls of senior
feed or something similiar (no hard pellets), mix. Then drizzle on no more
than 2-3 tablespoons of corn, canola etc, oil and mix well and feed
immediately. Do not put water on the psyllium as it won't work if it gels up
before eaten and do not use pelleted psyllium.

Good luck,
Sharon  

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RE: Pending Registrations Reminder

[Tom Rounsville]

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Thank you 

-Original Message-
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NFHR
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:12 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: RE: Pending Registrations Reminder

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 03:09 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote:
>This message is from: "Tom Rounsville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>  I have not heard about this kit before.  Does this go for any Fjord
owner?

DNA typing is required for NFHR registration of stallions & mares to prove
their parentage.  That way we know for sure they are purebred Fjord Horses.
Geldings are exempt unless they are going to be in an Evaluation.  They have
to be DNA typed for the Evaluation since their scores can count for their
parents Hall of Fame award.

Mike

>Jerri
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike May, 
>Registrar NFHR
>Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:32 PM
>To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
>Subject: Pending Registrations Reminder
>
>This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Just a reminder for everyone that has a horse in for registration with 
>the NFHR.  Remember that DNA hair sample kit you received in the mail 
>some time ago?  Maybe even a couple of years ago for some of you!
>
>If you don't pull the hair & send it in I can't finish your 
>registration.  I have 160 registrations in "Pending" status waiting for 
>DNA typing to be completed.  Please go & pull some hair & send it in 
>while the weather still isn't to bad yet.
>
>If you can't find the kit let me know and I will see what we can do 
>about getting you another one.
>
>Mike
>
>
>===
>
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>Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY  
>14580-0685
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RE: Pending Registrations Reminder

[Mike May, Registrar NFHR]

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At 03:09 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote:

This message is from: "Tom Rounsville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 I have not heard about this kit before.  Does this go for any Fjord owner?


DNA typing is required for NFHR registration of stallions & mares to 
prove their parentage.  That way we know for sure they are purebred 
Fjord Horses.  Geldings are exempt unless they are going to be in an 
Evaluation.  They have to be DNA typed for the Evaluation since their 
scores can count for their parents Hall of Fame award.


Mike


Jerri

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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:32 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Pending Registrations Reminder

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just a reminder for everyone that has a horse in for registration with the
NFHR.  Remember that DNA hair sample kit you received in the mail some time
ago?  Maybe even a couple of years ago for some of you!

If you don't pull the hair & send it in I can't finish your registration.  I
have 160 registrations in "Pending" status waiting for DNA typing to be
completed.  Please go & pull some hair & send it in while the weather still
isn't to bad yet.

If you can't find the kit let me know and I will see what we can do about
getting you another one.

Mike


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Intestinal upsets

[Dave and Patti Walter]

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Thanks so far for the replys both private and on the list. The owner's vet did
think it might be colitis and treated him for that. Cleared but came back. We
have tried 3 different probiotics, and I thank you for the list of others to
try. You're definately right, my vet and also supplier of the probiotics said
the same thing as you, each horse may or may not respond the same.
I did suggest to the owner to give him some ulcer med's, as I'm worried he may
have one (or more! ughgh). I suggested that a while ago, but don't believe she
started him on any. She was getting a bit fed up with all the med's.

I will forward all to the owner and hopefully soon can report some GOOD
positive news with him. He still for the most part is very active(still
riding), moving well, not grumpy or in pain. Just once in a while she says he
is tender in the flank area. Everything seems to come and go I think he is
just an amazing Fjord that is quite stoic.


Patti Jo Walter
www.franciscreekfjords.com
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RE: Pending Registrations Reminder

[Tom Rounsville]

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 I have not heard about this kit before.  Does this go for any Fjord owner?

Jerri

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike May, Registrar
NFHR
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:32 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Pending Registrations Reminder

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just a reminder for everyone that has a horse in for registration with the
NFHR.  Remember that DNA hair sample kit you received in the mail some time
ago?  Maybe even a couple of years ago for some of you!

If you don't pull the hair & send it in I can't finish your registration.  I
have 160 registrations in "Pending" status waiting for DNA typing to be
completed.  Please go & pull some hair & send it in while the weather still
isn't to bad yet.

If you can't find the kit let me know and I will see what we can do about
getting you another one.

Mike


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Re: bad farrier - good farrier

[Lola Lahr]

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I have to say also that I found it very hard to find a good farrier who
would trim my (barefoot) horses' feet well - and show up - and stay in the
business, etc.  (Even barefoot horses need a good balanced trim just like
horses who are going to be shod do.) After having some good ones who quit
the business and moved on to other careers, and those who screwed up my
horses' feet, and those who were no-show/no-call, I too, got sick and tired
of the whole thing and took it upon myself to learn how to care for my
horses' feet myself.  My horses' feet are now in really good shape, get
trimmed as often as needed, and the "clubbed" right fore foot on my arab
mare is nearly back to normal after only 6 months of following the advice of
Pete Ramey. She had an 8 year history of chronic soreness, abcesses and
laminitis that completely changed course when I started doing the trimming
myself.  I get tears in my eyes when I see that her "floaty" trot has
returned and she cavorts around the pastures with her herdmates (including 2
fjord mares).  She hasn't been able to do that for years.
Even if you don't want to do your own trims, and if you want to have your
horse shod, you owe it to yourself and your horse to get educated in the
area of hoof care.  I would strongly recommend Pete Ramy's new DVD series.
It may be the best $250 (a small sum compared to the $$ spent when things go
wrong!!) you ever spent.  This series of videos was taped at his workshops
and edited to give you information on just about every foot problem one
might encounter.  As an educated consumer, you then have the ability to work
as a partner with the other professionals involved with your horse, instead
of being  dependent on any yayhoo that comes along.  (Unfortunately, we
don't find out that someone is a yayhoo until something bad happens.)
Just my 2 cents worth...



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> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I think farriers are the winner of "worst work ethic" award. I have a new
> trimmer/shoer now. I hope he is considerate enough to use a phone and be
> able to
> read my name on his appointment book, the same book I saw him write my
> appt
> in. He was here last time at the correct time and day, let's see if he can
> make
> it to this appt. Can you tell I have had my share of "flakes"? When we
> lived
> in the city, it was not a problem. Since moving here we have had 4 shoers,
> this
> will make 5. All did a fine job on the feet but they turned out to be "no
> show, no call."
>
> Jo Wilgus
> Gavilan Hills, CA
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Mini Driving @ The Carriage Barn

[Carriage Barn / Ann Miles]

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A special Saturday program has been set up for Mini owners who are currently
driving or would like to learn about Pleasure and Combined driving for
Miniature horses.  The program is offered Saturdays in October from 2 to 3pm
at The Carriage Barn Equestrian Center.  Bring your harness and cart, or we
have a few Miniature horses available on site.  We will trail drive on the
property and discuss how pleasure shows and competitive shows are set up.
The group will also drive cones and make obstacles for fun activities with
Mini and their drivers.  Cost is $35 per group lesson.



The Carriage Barn Equestrian Center is located less than 40 miles North of
Boston, in Newton, New Hampshire, set on 60 wooded acres of private trails
and carriage roads in the Sarah’s Way Planned Equestrian Community.  The
facility includes a 72 x 160 Indoor Arena with excellent footing, a 100
meter Outdoor Driven Dressage Arena, a ¼ mile exercise track / carriage
road, and miles of private and public trails / roads.



For more information, or to sign up for this special program, please contact
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Re: bad farrier - good farrier

[RJRFJORD]

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I think farriers are the winner of "worst work ethic" award. I have a new 
trimmer/shoer now. I hope he is considerate enough to use a phone and be able 
to 
read my name on his appointment book, the same book I saw him write my appt 
in. He was here last time at the correct time and day, let's see if he can make 
it to this appt. Can you tell I have had my share of "flakes"? When we lived 
in the city, it was not a problem. Since moving here we have had 4 shoers, this 
will make 5. All did a fine job on the feet but they turned out to be "no 
show, no call."

Jo Wilgus
Gavilan Hills, CA


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mares and geldings

[brass-ring-farm]

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Not everyone separates mares and geldings. It has not been my
experience that it is a problem one way or the other, though I know
people who do that. I think more importantly is how Alpha a horse thinks
he or she is. If they think they should be top dog, so to speak, there
will be h*ll to pay until everyone else realizes that too. When you get
two of these personalities together, that is when you have real problems.
When I introduced a new 7 year old mare to a 3 year old bottom of
the pecking order mare, the younger mare mounted the older mare. Then the
new mare proceeded to corner and seriously kick the younger mare. If I
had not been there I am sure she would have been killed. This is after a
couple of weeks of introducing them over fences, stalls, etc. The older
mare thinks she is the big kahuna, and so she is. 
I then kept her separated, thinking it would be forever, because
the other horse involved, an older Morgan gelding, also thought he was
#1. So I did not want him involved.
One day I came home from work and they had broken down 4 oak
boards between them and were all in together in the pasture. They were,
by this time, calm and no one was hurt.
I figured this was their gift to me, that I did not have to see
it happen, and I have turned the three of them out together for the past
3 years and everyone now knows where they stand and so far so good.
Valerie   
Columbia, CT

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Halloween Show @ The Carriage Barn - Newton, NH

[Carriage Barn / Ann Miles]

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The Carriage Barn Equestrian Center is pleased to announce the 2007
Halloween Carriage Classic Fun Show, to be held October 28th at its Facility
in Newton, New Hampshire.

 

Carriage Driving Divisions will include Open, Novice, Juniors, and Small
Ponies.  There will be Pleasure Driving, Reinsmanship and Obstacle classes.
There will also be special Trick or Treat classes where a passenger from
each vehicle will get out and perform Halloween Tasks such as drawing a
pumpkin, bobbing for apples, and others.  Bonus points will be given for
costumes.  Lunch will be available on site (fee).

 

The Halloween Carriage Classic will benefit The Carriage Barn's Therapeutic
Riding and Driving Programs, a 501(c)3 Not For Profit Organization that
seeks to enhance physical, psychological, cognitive and emotional healing
and strengthening through equine activities.  The Program is a North
American Riding for the Handicapped Association Member Center that serves
clients of various ages from communities throughout the Merrimack Valley,
Southern New Hampshire, Northeastern Massachusetts, and Southern Maine.  

 

We hope that you can come join all the witches, ghouls, ghosts, and monsters
for a day of Halloween Fun and excitement, starting at 9am on Sunday,
October 28th.

 

For a class list, or more information on our programs, please contact The
Carriage Barn at 603-378-0140, email  
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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #226

[CrystalZak]

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In a message dated 10/2/07 12:35:09 AM,
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> May Oz be back pounding the public roads with his new feet asap!
>
> Kay
> and Bogie, who says, "What's this 'round pony' stuff?  I'm not tubby...I'm
> sumptuous!"
> and Braveheart, who says, "Oh, PLEASE.  You have the metabolism of a
sloth!"
>

ROFLMAO.love it when your guys talk.

i rode oz last night in the arena, and he moved out much more comfortably
than he has recently. i am thinking he was off balance for quite some time
before
this incident. lesson learned. watch those feet.

laurie, and oz, with matching black shoes, what a fashion statement he is



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RE: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #226

[Kelly Trirogoff]

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I often also ride in a bitless bridle based on the Dr. Cook model. Skovy
responds very well to it. You can actually see it in my video on you tube as
it is BRIGHT YELLOW. I got it for a deal on ebay. The colour suits his
energetic personality> --> > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007
11:54:35 + (GMT)> From: Tanya Manser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
Subject: Re: better bitting> > This message is from: Tanya Manser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> I ride one of my Fjords in a Dr Cook bitless
bridle, but I drive her in a> Liverpool bit. The other Fjord is ridden in a
'happy mouth' snaffle. > > My> two youngs Fjords aren't bitted yet.> >
This foot topic really interests me.  Since I have owned Skovy he has had 3
different farriers (as he has boarded at several facilities) I have noticed
that his feet have changed shape(a little) several times. Sometimes being
higher with a shorter toe and other times being lower with a longer angle and
lower heels (sorry if I am not describing this correctly). Currently his feet,
I feel, are a little more like the latter. His toes have been chipping quite a
bit lately and I wonder if this is why. I don't have anything to compare to
that really shows me how his feet should look. His farrier he has now is the
same man that used to do his mom, as well as him when he was a baby. I trust
him (and maybe that is my problem) perhaps I should ask him. Does anyone have
any pictures of fjord feet? I understand that every horse is different and
that trims should be done per each horse as an individual. Does chipping mean
he should be shoed? Comments?

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Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:00:33 EDT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: bad farrier -
good farrier> > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> my poor oz, what he
goes through. i might have mentioned he is very ouchy > right now, thanks to
the hack who calls himself a farrier at the barn where we > board. i asked to
have oz's shoes taken off to see if he could go barefoot, and > also since he
was getting some chipping between the nail holes. so.this > person cut him
SO short that he couldn't even walk on the concrete aisle in the > barn. i
called this person 3 times, asking him to talk to me and to see what > could
be done. he has yet to return my call. i was extremely upset.> > so i called
joe yanish, who is a fjord club member, and isn't too far away > from the
barn. he and erin made a trip there yesterday to look at my boy, and > what
joe found made me even angrier at what had been done. not only was he WAY >
short, the feet were shorter on the outside edges than the inside,
and..the > angles on the front feet were not the same, but almost 5
degrees difference. > once he showed me, it was apparent even to my untrained
eye.> > joe spent a solid two hours fitting oz with shoes that allow him to
walk > right again, and then will come back in 5 weeks to work on him again
until we get > his feet back to where they should be. i considered his work to
be extremely > professional and he is very easy with the horse. oz stood
quietly the entire > two hours, even though i am not sure if he has ever had
hot shoes done before.> > joe is a find young farrier, and if you are in
central minnesota and have > needs, i would highly recommend his services. i
know oz really appreciate it.> > as for the other person, who is also a WSCA
judgewell, i guess i must > have lost your bill, since it's sure not worth
paying for what was done to my > horse. this is the same person who, when
giving a class in showmanship at the > barn before blue earth, was very
condescending toward me and oz.even asking > if my "pony" could trot along
with me like the other horses there.> > laurie and oz, who has happy feet
again> > > > --> > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:54:56
EDT> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: bad farrier - good farrier> > This
message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well!! Not very good at his work and rude
to boot! There's a double threat > if ever I heard one. Selfishly, I'm glad
he's in your neighborhood and not > mine. I wouldn't work too hard keeping
track of that bill either.> It's great that Oz has happy feet again...it's so
important. Braveheart > and Bogie have appointments with their podiatrist next
Monday so their > tootsies will be in good shape for our trip to the National
Drive down at the KY > Horse Park. John (our revered farrier) says that he
always awakens with a light > heart on the days with BH and Bogie on his
schedule. I don't know. They're > always good for him but he's about 12 feet
tall and they aren't. Not only is > there a LOT of bending over involved for
him but, in Bogie's case, he has to > work around a noticeable amount of very
round pony. For a man whose practice is > mostly Saddlebreds, Thoroughbreds
and Warmbloods, we are probably a major > vertebrae stresser.> May O

Re: groundwork

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Clicker training combines nicely with Parelli.  I am a clicker canine 
trainer, and have used it with several breeds of horses.  I consider my Fjords 
to be 
the Labrador retrievers of the horse world, so it is lots of fun for them.  
Tiny pieces of carrot are excellent reinforcement that won't  add to our chunky 
ponies girth.  There are several excellent books out there on equine clicker 
training.  Sharon Abbott


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Re: groundwork

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I'm a big fan of groundwork, mostly because I am an iffy rider!!  But  also 
because I broke my leg and shattered my knee shortly after getting my very  own 
fjord, so I was not very mobile.
 
Although I don't think Parelli is a cure for all ills, their foundation for  
groundwork is great.  Some of the stuff I could not do while my leg healed,  
but let me tell you, my pony can back his way in, out and around anything with  
just a wiggle of my finger.  We spent a LOT of time playing with backup,  and 
with flexing and bending of the neck, moving the hindquarters, lowering his  
head - stuff I could do without walking around.  Not a lot of calorie  
burning, but fun for both of us, and really great for bonding.
 
If you have an interest, clicker training is also a lot of fun, the fjords  
take to it quite well, and it does NOT require much physical effort from the  
trainer.
 
Kate
 
 
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Subject:  groundwork

This message is from: Summers Moore  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hello list quick question. a month ago I was  tossed from my mare and  
fractured my pelvis. I don't believe it was  her fault.I am not able  
to ride for about 3 more weeks and have just  finished my new barn and  
outdoor arena.i have brought my 2 fjords  home and would like to hear  
peolpes advice about how to give them  some exercise from the ground.  
ie longeing,  bending, what's  the best way to bond with them and get  
them some exercise without me  overdoing it.? any help would be  
appreciated. thanks summers, mara  and bizcocho in beautiful colorado







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Re: question for the list

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There is another good product out there for horses and dogs, Diarsynal.



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