RE: Rose Parade Roses
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com I'm curious as to why they would have separated the group as part of the normal routine. As you say, the horses would band together... separation would (in my mind, at least) be more likely to cause a problem, especially at the end when they've worked together throughout the route. Regardless, good for you, Teressa! -Julia Webb Cheney, KS Normally, they separate the carriage horses from the riding horses. Now that might have caused us some problems for us! The parade volunteers at the end of the parade didn't get that memo, however, and tried to separate us on our way to the disbanding area. Teressa got in that guys face and told him otherwise she was an amazing marshal in a number of ways. Perfect for that job! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Vet Only Rabies Vaccinations
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Actually, it's a related liability exposure that is behind the reason I let the vet do it. As was explained to me, it was perfectly legal for me to administer the vaccine, and my vet was happy to provide the scrip if I wanted it, but he reminded me that I would get no certification that the shot had been administered. If my horse bit someone, they could insist that I had no proof of protection. Given the litigious nature of some people who might erroneously believe I had lots of assets to after (hah!), or the possibility of some nut job who wants to see my horse destroyed, I have no problem letting the vet give the shot. - Julia Webb Sent from my iPhone Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Cross Country Trip
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Glad it was a good trip. DJ is still asking about the biggest dog in the world! :-) - Julia Webb Sent from my iPhone in SC Kansas On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Linda Lottie horselo...@hotmail.com wrote: My cousin and I traveled from MN to NM and back a few weeks ago. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjord head on a shoulder?
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Both my Fjord and the one I borrowed for a summer liked to do that. My girl is an alpha, the other was usually at the bottom of the pack. Neither seemed to escalate it, but if it is unsolicited, I usually discourage it. Hard tho... They're so stinkin' cute when they do it. :-) -Julia Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Linda Lottie horselo...@hotmail.com wrote: This message is from: Linda Lottie horselo...@hotmail.com Fjord head on your shoulder? Did you ask him to put it there? If so, your choice. Did he choose to put it there? I personally would not allow that. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: mules more............
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Cindy, My first breed involvement was Andies, too! You are so very, VERY right. I still have the boy I bought in utero, but he's with a professional trainer, and I will never be his full-time rider. He is the best boy in the world, loves to work, but so sensitive and reactive... not the best for someone who has very little confidence in the saddle. Trainer is thrilled spitless as she says that if I were so inclined, he could compete at the FEI level. You go, girl. lol! I just wanted a good partner in the arena and to go do parades. Yeah Fjords! Ironically enough, I've actually come off my new Fjord (sprained my wrist in the process). I know what I did wrong, and it wasn't her fault, but boy are Fjords different from Morgans and Andalusians. I have to remember that young-with-training, is still *young*. And that stoic does NOT equal accepting. Thankfully, she's a good girl and not too tall. We'll start over, and I'll begin as I did with my pony mules: Little bits at a time, with plenty of time for relationship building and thinking. -Julia Ares, Eva and Isabella PS: Love your videos. Yep. I'm a fan-girl. ;-) The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. Albert Einstein Before I got my Fjord, I was into Andalusians. Boy, nowhere does more mythology abound than in that breed! Andalusians are so gentle that they can all be left stallions. They're so intelligent. So noble. So kind. So willing. They are born balanced on their hindquarters and can do high school work right from the start... It just goes on and on. Trust me, it isn't true. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: mules more............
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com That was me and my Andalusian all over. Except that I didn't have a professional trainer. I tried to make do at home. It was so sad. Well, poor Ares... He got started by a professional at 4, and then I got pregnant. No money for trainers. It wasn't until fall of last year that I was able to get him back into training. He'd spent 6 years just rotting in the pasture, and the sad thing is that he LOVED working. I did as much as I could from the ground, but I didn't dare work him from the saddle - he gets all his confidence and joy from the rider. I knew that with my nerves, I'd ruin him (and likely myself). I'd have sold him except that the market tanked, and after one inconsiderate rider rough-housed him in the roundpen, I sat down and cried. I couldn't take it, especially since he was like a first son to me. The next day, I took him off the market and decided that he'd just have to wait until my human son was old enough to divert daycare funding to training. I'd go on the Andalusian list and ask for help, and no one else would admit that their horses ever had an issue. I cynically decided that was because they were all in the breeding or training business and couldn't let on that all was not sunshine and rainbows. And Unicorns! Sorry...I couldn't resist. ;-) That is sad. I love how this list is so helpful and very open. There's a lot less of the fluffer-nutter selling practices. I think the problem with the Andalusian world, especially until just recently (I've noticed more people coming out of the closet), is that many of the noob owners -- even the ones who aren't breeders -- bought into the myth and didn't want to be the one to notice the emperor had no clothes. The real issue is (IMHO) is that while Andies are phenomenal intuitive horses who can be kept as studs, you practically live with your horses spending 12 hours a day as the Spanish do. That just doesn't work for most of us here in the States. Besides...horses are horses. Any breed trait can be on shaky ground when novices expect them to be as consistent and unchanging as a four-wheeler. Take Fjords for example. Novices come to the breed because they're calm, good tempered, bjorn broke etc. But, without good horsemanship and consistent handling, calm can turn to stubborn or lazy, and good tempered can turn into a spoiled treat monster. But the Fjord community is nothing if not practical. Many of the breeders take care to take care of the newbies, and it makes a difference. Oden, on the other hand, never goes through the barn without either squeezing a shoulder, a butt cheek, or his face up against a wall. Eeyore tells me all the time that the barn is not big enough for the two of them! OMG... that MUST be a draft trait. My husband's Percheron used to scare the crap out of me because she just didn't seem to get where her feet were in relation to her surroundings. I rarely saw that with the hotter breeds or the mules (who ARE smarter than horses, but that's not always a better thing) I've had. Unless they were having a nervous breakdown. Then all bets were off. -Julia Ares (Andalusian), Eva (Morgan), Isabella (Fjord Tough!) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: mules more............
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Especially when the unwanted behavior leaves you in the dirt 300 yards away from the horse who is now grazing contentedly near her buddy. ;-) - Julia Isabella (Formerly owned by pony mules.) SC Kansas Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Rovena Kessinger ro_k...@yahoo.com wrote: This message is from: Rovena Kessinger ro_k...@yahoo.com It's very hard not to reward the behavior you don't want sometimes. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Finally! I'm Fjord'ed!
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com After wanting one for more than 4 years, I finally have my own. Isabella (Smedsmo Graen x Raspotnik's Nona, 2008) arrived yesterday, escaping the mud of Wisconsin for the winds of south central Kansas. At the end of her arduous journey, she polished off some of the hay in the trailer, exchanged pleasantries with my Morgan mare, Eva, and found the one small puddle in the otherwise dry sacrifice paddock to give herself a grand spa treatment. A girl's got to do what a girl's got to do. She's settling in nicely, done the Eat, Poop, Love thing, and is busy trying to figure out how to get the treats out of the Amazing Graze toy. Since she's a Fjord and has a Morgan to help mentor her, I expect she'll be a pro in no time. Thank you, Patti Jo and Tanya for providing a stellar buying experience for yet another breed newbie. Thanks to the training and work done by you two and Ken Raspotnik, the vet doing the exam couldn't say enough good things about my new girl. I'm looking forward to many years with her. All the best, Julia Webb Cheney, KS Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: wolves
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com My area of interest during my Wildlife Biology studies was behavior among larger predators. You are quite right about the efficacy of shooting near them, rather than at them. At our ranch (can't call 35 acres a proper ranch) in Colorado, we had 3 separate packs roaming the open rangeland around our place. Once I started putting the bullets in the dirt at their feet, they became very wary and steered clear, the behavior changing from their over-confident malingering in the early days. With a very small amount of time, they learned to swing wide of our place, and when they did come in, they moved very quickly to cross it. Another benefit was that keeping the coyotes alive helped keep the plague-infested gopher population down. All the best, Julia The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. Albert Einstein Although I have, in the past, shot and killed coyotes that we found inside our fenced pastures, the URI researchers suggested that the least destabilizing approach to take was to shoot NEAR the predators, rather than AT them. In this way, the pack territories are not de-stabilized, but the animals learn that humans are to be feared, and will tend to avoid those areas. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Training the One-rein stop?
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com So, I'm curious about things we can learn from this.Practical takeaways. Fjord trainers: Any differences with installing that one-rein stop/disengagement of the hind-quarters with Fjords? I'm not the best rider in the world, but as a thinking adult beginner, I've had many teachers, all of which (to some degree or another) made sure I knew how to A) Get off a moving horse as safely as possible, and B) Train that one-rein stop. (At least with a Fjord, the distance to the ground is a lot less than the 16.3 Standardbred I learned the rolling dismount on...). I know that most horses can run right through a pulley rein or a one-rein stop if they haven't had it ingrained to the point of instinct. Any experience with making it as effective as possible? -JuliaFjordless in Kansas Thank you so much for that info Valerie! I needed the confidence boost! I want to take Andy and J.J. to Arcadia and have thought of them running away since reading some emails on here..very scary thought Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: [FjordIssues] Fjord Saddles
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Stephanie, I went with an American Flex saddle after filtering through the archives on both Fjord lists. I'm 5'2-3 and plump too, so, while I liked the idea of treeless, I knew I'd need a tree to keep me from hurting my horse. You can see my actual saddle here (the maker liked what I had ordered so much she took pictures for the page): http://www.american-flex.com/caliente.htm but you will see they have LOTS of different styles. The system uses delrin panels, but there's a solid tree on top attached with swivel ball joints. Rider gets the support and lift of a tree (keeping her off the horses' backs), but the horse gets free shoulder movement and excellent fit of a tree-less panel. I wanted to spend the money on one good saddle that I could use on pretty much anybody, and this is it. I've used it on a tiny arabs, a Fjord, a bowling ball of a Morgan, a warmblood-style Andalusian, a classical dressage Andalusian (very different builds), and I've had friends and trainers use it on quarter horses, percherons and TB crosses. Everybody's amazed at how well it fits, and how well the horses go in it. I use mine for trail riding and Californio style dressage. If you want, when we get moved out there, we can hook up and you can come see mine. (And no...I don't get money from this outfit...I just REALLY like my saddle!) Best, Julia Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Fjord in the news
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Way to go Brandi and Thor! -Julia Wellington, CO The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. Albert Einstein Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:39:47 -0700 From: sdon...@yahoo.com Subject: Fjord in the news http://www.gjsentinel.com/blogs/horseplay/entry/competitive-trail-riders-win- national-regional-events/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Virus and message that says... None
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Something else you may want to try (per my husband the software engineer when *my* account was hijacked): Change your password periodically. Hotmail/Windows Live has a feature where it automatically prompts you to change your password every so often. Always remember never to click a link in an email, even if it's from someone you know, unless you know it's safe. Additionally, if you're going to send something to someone to look at, include a personal message so the recipient *knows* it's not from an automatic virus bot. I don't click on links unless something personal has been included from the person forwarding it. Happy Trails! Julia Webb Colorado. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Fjord for sale at California Draft Horse Auction
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Poor girl. I hate to see them at auctions. I bet she finds good home. However, if someone does see fit to kidnap her, I have room in Colorado for her... ;-) -Julia Webb Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: saddle dilema
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com My problem was fitting multiple horses. I didn't want to have several saddles that may or may not fit. And since I needed something to fit my less-than-perfect physique, I wanted something to take to lessons as well. The problem with most fixed tree saddles is that no matter how you customize it, it will only fit that horse at that time. Soon as they change...poof. It doesn't fit. So, I ended up going with an American Flex saddle from Hill View Farms in Minnesota as recommended by someone in one of the Fjord list archives. Thus far, it's been great. Rode in it on a Fjord, Andalusian, Warmblood, 14.1 aged Arabian, and a bowling ball of a 13.3 hh Morgan mare. It's been used by friends on a 17hh Percheron, quarter horses and a peaky-withered Thoroughbred. It moves great with their backs, leaves even sweat patterns, no bridging and a clear channel over the spine. Horse gets the advantage of the panel system, while I get a tree (which keeps me off the horse's back--I'm just too heavy for a straight treeless). I started out with dressage and currently take lessons with a dressage instructor using a bosal hackamore and mecate rein on a horse that's trained for dressage and Californio/vaquero riding. Only saddle I've had where I can take up a balanced 2 point without struggling. The system for the saddles: http://www.american-flex.com/system%20discription.htm Pictures of the Caliente I had made last year: http://www.american-flex.com/caliente.htm The fenders may look funny, but that's because I have really short legs. I had a tall cantle and the shortest skirts I could manage with a 17 inch seat (padded up, so it fits like a 16.5, but with lots of cush). Good luck, Laurie! They make dressage saddles too... -Julia Webb Wellington, CO The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. Albert Einstein Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: The Porta Grazer, also weight control discussions
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com That's sort of what I've thought looking at them. It really needs a blunt locking clamp on the outer rim to prevent the insert from sliding out once it's in. Something human removable, horse safe, and not operational by pony-types. I love my Amazing Graze toys (and so do the horses), but they're not suitable for hay. Just cubes and carrots and such. It would be nice if these Porta Grazers could be adapted so that they can't be so easily subverted... by being inverted. ;-) -Julia Colorado Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:56:05 -0800 From: siljakn...@yahoo.com This message is from: Silja Knoll siljakn...@yahoo.com I recently purchased two of these Porta Grazers. Initially I liked the idea that the horses could move the tub all over the paddock and increase movement, but then the Fjord learned how to get the insert out by tipping the tub over, not on its side but on its top. This would cause the insert to fall out, snip Overall I rate the Porta Grazers at a B-. I look forward to having it with us when we go camping or they are confined in smaller areas to reduce boredom. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Going....going....gone.
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com A-MEN, Lisa. I'm not a seller (of horses, anyway), but as a once-and-future buyer, I'm always astounded at how agravated sellers get when I ask for video of a horse doing the things they say they can do. You say bombproof? I want to see you catch, tie, curry, and work the horse. I want to see them trailered. I want to see hoses and water, feet picked, etc. These are just basics. Trained? I don't need 5 minutes of the same trot gait set to your favorite song. I want to see transitions, changes of direction, obstacles. Pictures? I care about conformation. Tacked up is nice, but include all sides on a level surface in good light with no tack, please. Anyway... I'll stop ranting. ;-) Suffice to say, I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment, Lisa. Keep up the good work. -Julia Webb Wellington, CO...soon to be Nickerson, KS From: pedfjo...@aol.com What has helped me sell mine also has been the videos showing what we advertise them to do. You can TELL people one thing about your Fjords quiet nature and ability to ride in tough terraine, but showing them a 5 min. U-Tube video of the horse climbing hills, being untacked then tacked back up, out on the open space of a 5000 acre park with no header.sure helps. If you say the Fjords drives.ok then film 3-4 videos pulling them out, grooming, feet, harnessing process, then drive off. Go through what they do, then pull the cart and harness, throw on a saddle and ride off. Do walk, trot(s) canter then end by floating them into a trailer. Dont edit out the parts where they yank away a foot. Dont edit out the parts where your corgi's come charging up underneigh. Also, dont edit out the parts where an empty hog semi truck blows by going 50, and they hardly notice. Or your rider almost pulling off the saddle because they used a too long cinch. Show it all. Show how your horse reacts to clipping, being tied alone, loading. Use your hose and flood a big puddle for them to walk through. People who have had a horse that does not go well into water will look hard at one who does. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: keep us posted on the treeless saddles
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Hi Angie, Thanks to some recommendations in the archives of this and another fjord list, I bought an American-Flex saddle, and I LOVE IT. I wanted the flexibility of a treeless, but I'm a heavier rider and prefer a narrow twist. The saddle I bought has a tree for the seat, but it's attached to a panel system with ball joints for the horse. I've used it on everything from my little morgan (who is built like a bowling ball: black and round in all directions) to an arabian, to a warmblood-like large andalusian, and even a percheron. And... oh yes, a fjord! ;-) It fit everyone beautifully, with good contact, free shoulder movement, and a nice dry channel over the top of the spine despite my 205 pound physique. -Julia Wellington, CO On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Gary Angie Proper agap...@mhcable.comwrote: This message is from: Gary Angie Proper agap...@mhcable.com I am interested in hearing updates on those using treeless saddles. Angie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: new member
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Hi Robyn, I'm a mostly-lurker who is looking forward to getting her trail Fjord next year. I bought an American-Flex Evolutionary Saddle from Hill View Farms this year, as I'd read about them in the archives on this list. I hadn't heard about them until I came here. I needed a saddle that would fit anybody - and the one I got fits the bill. I went with this particular brand because American-Flex, as opposed to a tree-less, or a saddle that was nothing but panels, for 2 reasons. 1) It provides a lot more protection for the horse from my weight (205#, 5'2). Treeless saddles, even with special pads don't always give the horse the protection it needs. 2) The tree was better for my seat. I like a narrower tree, but wide horses. So far it has been on a Fjord (2 shor trail rides, one long), 2 Andalusians (one for repeated lessons), 1 Percheron, a tiny-backed Arab, and my 13.3hh bowling ball of a Morgan (who has a shorter, wider, rounder back than any of the others). Needless to say, they all had VERY different backs, withers and shoulders. It fit them all with really good panel contact - no inconsistencies or pressure points - and left them with dry spine channel. Here's what I got, in a 17 inch with the cush padding: http://www.american-flex.com/A-f%20Easy%20Slide%20Saddles.htm#THE%20CLASSIC%2 0CALIENTE Happy shopping, and I hope your your purchase goes well! -Julia Wellington, CO Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:26:51 + From: rckev...@comcast.net Subject: new member This message is from: Robyn Kevlin rckev...@comcast.net I'm looking forward to reading the archives, and am in search of a good saddle. The one I borrowed (with QH bars) just slid right off Gaven, but then she and I both need to lose weight. ;0) I am considering a Softride, made by Rebecca Underwood. Anybody have experience with those? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Dumped
This message is from: Julia Webb jemw...@hotmail.com Tonja and Melinda, I started out in dressage and am moving to western... ;-) I've had lots of lessons in huntseat saddles, all-purpose and dressage. Melindas friends are right about the dressage saddles giving a deeper seat, however, that is with one caveat: the saddle MUST FIT THE RIDER. The saddle, of course should fit the horse... don't ride unless it does. But with riding lesson horses, I rarely had my own saddle - had to use the one that fit the horse, and I never had a truly nice secure feel until I finally got my own dressage saddle with an 18.5 - 19 seat. It makes a huge difference! And not just to me. A friend who would only ride western given the chance, got to ride in my 19 inch dressage saddle and is in LOVE with it. She feels more secure in it than she does in her western. So, keep that in mind. Most of the dressage saddles out there seem to max out at about 17.5. And an 18 was still too small for me to really feel like I had good posture and fit. My can would physically fit into the saddle, but I didn't have the right sort of room they're always telling you to have. And once I got it, it made all the difference in the world. Good luck! -Julia Webb Wellington CO (I too have taken a gainer off the right shoulder at the canter...in a western saddle. ;-) From: melinda.schumac...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 20:14:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Dumped To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com My friends tell me the deep seat of the dressage saddle, which is what I most want to learn, is quite secure esp with the thigh blocks. I hope they are right and when I am riding regularly I plan to graduate to a dressage saddle. For now, with Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
