Re: Shedding!

[JadeBear]

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Braveheart isn't through with his winter coat yet but, in Bogie's opinion, 
it's time to line his entire world with Bogie-hair.  To look at his stall in 
the 
morning and my clothes just about any time, you'd think he'd actually 
exploded.  I'm practicing bareback riding on him these days (probably a sign of 
entrance into my second childhood) and when I scramble off, my posterior is 
coated 
in blond hair...an area of my body, by the way, that does NOT need to be 
highlighted. I've told him that February in MI probably isn't the best time to 
fling your winter clothes to the winds but he seems unmoved by my arguments.  
 
Kay
and Braveheart who has chosen to go with the angora look a bit longer
and Bogie who cares nothing for any of our wardrobe suggestions



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Re: Shedding

[Linda Lottie User]

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Yes, spring can be a ways away.  It takes months for me to get all three
fjords shed out.  One has to be really shed out by mid Aprilhe is going
to the MN Horse Expo :)

LJBL in WI


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> This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On Feb 4, 2008, at 11:19 AM, fjordhorse-digest wrote:
> 
>> Ivan has started to shed, can Spring be far behind?
>> 
>> Bernadine Karns
>> Nottawa Crossing Fjords
> Biscuit is shedding as well!  So much that she rubbed on a no-climb
> mesh fence overnight and there was a lot of hair there to greet me
> this morning!  I can see where she sleeps overnight too, by the hair
> on the ground.  The days are so much longer!
> Emily
> 
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Re: Shedding

[Emily Wigley]

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On Feb 4, 2008, at 11:19 AM, fjordhorse-digest wrote:


Ivan has started to shed, can Spring be far behind?

Bernadine Karns
Nottawa Crossing Fjords
Biscuit is shedding as well!  So much that she rubbed on a no-climb  
mesh fence overnight and there was a lot of hair there to greet me  
this morning!  I can see where she sleeps overnight too, by the hair  
on the ground.  The days are so much longer!

Emily

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Re: Shedding

[Jean Ernest]

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Well, I am here in Fairbanks, Alaska,  where we are having the 
"Endless Winter" With Temperatures the last three weeks reaching an 
all time record cold spell since records were started in 1904.  So 
much for that nice warm January we had, which really spoiled 
me.  Temps should be about +26 for a high, -6 for a low, but have 
been consistently 0 to -5  for a high and -30 for a low!  and we are 
about 3 FT. short on snow.  What a weird winter!


Old Bjarne, 32, is shedding however, I get coated in long guard hairs 
when he brushes against me entering his stall in the morning to eat 
his senior feed.  the others have  loose hair on their backs.  They 
are outside all the time, ands the sun has been warm every 
day.  :They have so much fur that the hair they are shedding now 
doesn't make any difference in their insulation.  Still too cold to 
get out there and trim manes which are out of control!  They have 
never been this long in all the years I have had Fjords!


Hey, we went on daylight savings time, But where is spring? But we 
still have the World Ice carving championships, all the Carvings are 
finished now, check them out at   http://www.icealaska.com


Jean in cold and clear Fairbanks, Alaska -10F


Shedding here like crazy in Arizona...but Gus got almost a full 
body clip..as temps decided to soar up into the 80's and he is 
sporting a trace clipso most of that came off..I hated 
to take it ALL off, as I can't be out there to blanket or anything 
just in case the temps droppedwhich would be MY luck, that 
would happen.   But he seems content enough...


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RE: shedding out with baby oil?

[Gail Russell]

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OK, remember the procedure for defeathering a goose?  Dip them in melted 
wax, or hot water with melted wax floating on top..then let the wax 
harden..then peel off the feathers.  Maybe I could do something like that, 
slather with warm wax, let them cool off in the snow then peel the hardened 
wax..or maybe simply 

In another context, this would be called a "bikini wax"something I've
not partaken of, as yet, and hope to avoid forever. :)

Gail

Re: shedding out with baby oil?

[Marsha Jo Hannah]

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> Lois Berenyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In one of the latest horse magazines, Equus I think, there was a hint
> about hastening the shedding out process.

It was EQUUS, March 2005, p.28

> The hint was to slather the horse with baby oil the day
> before and then the next day give a bath and all the old hair would just "slip
> off" leaving a slick-coated horse.
>
> I have visions of doing this to a Fjord.  At what stage of shedding does one
> attempt this?

Note that the article also says that horses do not shed all over, all
at once.  And, that if one applies the oil before the summer coat has
fully emerged from the skin, one will have a naked horse!  The summer
coat starts growing in mid-January, but "takes two to three months for
the new hairs to reach the ends of the follicles and push the old
hairs out."  I take that to mean that, if the old hair hasn't fallen
out on its own yet, the new hair isn't long enough to provide the
horse with any protection.

Every spring on various donkey lists, newbies "panic" because their
recently-acquired donkeys suddenly have developed large bald patches.
We've taken to calling it the Donkey Depilatory Disorder---it seems
that stress, or maybe excess rolling (which donkeys do to "claim" new
territory) will remove the old hair before the new has fully come in.
It usually takes 2 or 3 weeks for the condition to resolve itself, as
the summer hair finally emerges from the skin.

> How do I hide her for the 24 hours she is so slathered?

It's probably more relevant to think about how you "hide" her for the
2 or 3 weeks until she stops looking naked!

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
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15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon

Re: shedding out with baby oil?

[Jean Ernest]

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Good Gawd!  I can imagine what amount of oil it would take to do old 
Bjarne, at least, he is the hairiest, but the others aren't far behind!  I 
already have a huge pile of hair raked off of them, pus a bag full of the 
cleaner stuff, hoping to find a spinner.  I can't imagine even bathing 
these guy with all that hair, much less slathering them with enough oil to 
penetrate that fur!  Maybe it would work on a sparse haired Arab, but on MY 
Fjords?

OK, remember the procedure for defeathering a goose?  Dip them in melted 
wax, or hot water with melted wax floating on top..then let the wax 
harden..then peel off the feathers.  Maybe I could do something like that, 
slather with warm wax, let them cool off in the snow then peel the hardened 
wax..or maybe simply Mud?? in some cases would work?  Or, with our 
rain/snow mix let them get coated with ice then peel?
At any rate, I see where they have laid down, and left hair stuck in the 
mud/manure/ice.

I think I'll just let it go naturally, and stay indoors playing on the 
computer  At least till it stops snowing and warms up again!

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska,  20 degrees and light snowwaiting for 
spring!
HAPPY EASTER!!


>  The hint was to slather the horse with baby oil the day
>before and then the next day give a bath and all the old hair would just "slip
>off" leaving a slick-coated horse.

Re: shedding....

[JadeBear]

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Hi All,
Braveheart is definitely shedding...as he does around this time every 
year even though I've shown him the calendar and read him the weather reports.  
He just looks at me, snorts and 423 more hairs fall out.  
He, too, starts putting on winter coat in late August.  We body-clipped 
him twice this last summer so cooling down after cross-country or just after a 
serious workout would go a little quicker.  I've never body-clipped a horse 
before and I was worried that it might keep him from growing his winter coat in 
time or generally mess up his natural hair schedule in some way.  It didn't.  
Maybe it's just another amazing Fjord thing, but he can go from sleek show 
horse to big yellow caterpillar practically overnight.  Imagine how rich we 
could 
all be if there was a major market for Fjord hair!
  
  Kay
  
  Yellow Pony Farm
  
  SE MI   

RE: Shedding Phenomena

[Linda Lottie]

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Ever since I have owned fjords.5 years or so..they begin to shed in 
early January and start growing their winter coats in Sept after shedding 
their summer coats in Aug.every year.related to hours of light in 
the day me thinks!!!


Linda Baker Lottie...MN   snowing lightly and balmy

>From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
>To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
>Subject: Shedding Phenomena
>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:29:43 +
>
>This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>Hi all, I haven't the time at the moment (and I really shouldn't be
>reading or posting to the List now, as I am supposed to be at work!), 
but

>if someone does have the time to research into the List archives to see
>what the dates were every year that folks would start reporting the
>shedding occurance, I think it would be kinda neat. Is there a pattern,
>an average date? Then, if we got really elaborate, we could see how it
>matched up to weather patterns and events...Gee, can you tell I would
>rather be anywhere than work right now??!! Hey Jean E. or Marsha 
Jo, this

>has your name's written all over it!
>
>Btw, my outdoor, non-stabled ponies are just starting the shedding 
thing.
>We have had 8"-10" of snow on the ground for over 2.5 weeks 
now, and over

>the past 8 days, nothing but freezing fog, which creates what the locals
>refer to as poconip, where every physical thing that projects into the
>fog, wire, hair, tree branches, is covered in a delicate covering of 
fine
>ice. Very pretty when the sun rises up behind it, truly a rare event 
here

>these days. Please send sun someone!
>
>Btw Ruthie, I am going to go back and read the article you posted re.
>shrinking the gentic pool w/ over-intensive selective breeding. Looks
>very interesting; I am really enjoying all of the posts concerning usage
>of Eval. results, especially Phil's.
>
>Kmac

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Re: shedding, blankets and winter

[JadeBear]

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Hi All,
I've only got one Fjord and he's my first so I've made my winter 
decisions based mostly on reading and what I can only hope is good advice.  
Braveheart 
has inherited a very nice winter blanket from his AQHA predecessor but has 
never worn it.  I have a small (3 box stalls-one tack room) insulated but 
unheated barn.  The only time it warms up in the winter is when he's in it.  
During 
the day I open his stall door and the back door of the barn allowing him to 
come and go as he likes.  At night I put him back in his stall and close both 
doors.  This is mostly so I know where he is at night...not because I think 
he's 
too cold.  Anyhow. so far - so good.  I got him as a yearling, he's just 
about to turn 7 and he's never even sneezed.  I leave him in during winter 
rains/freezing rain and during the odd blizzard and even then his complaints 
are loud 
and long ("Let me OOOUUUTT!").  He remains fat, furry and frolicsome.  He 
loves the snow!  There is a lot of running, kicking, bucking and rolling.  I 
only 
wish I liked the winter weather that well!  
He's got a cooler to help him dry off after a workout and a cotton sheet 
that he wears to keep clean before a show (strictly summer-wear...when the 
frost appears on the pumpkin, we retire for the year).  I guess "naked pony" 
pretty much embodies our dress code. So, for what it's worth, there's my 2 
cents.
Kay Van Natta
Yellow Pony Farm
SE Michigan

RE: Shedding

[Cynthia Madden]

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Tank starts getting his winter coat in August and starts his first shed in 
January - Omaha or Las Cruces. Daylight must have more to do with it than 
temperature. Teddy & Nigel started  shedding at the same time.


Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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Re: shedding

[ChampionPonies]

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<< You blanket at +20?!!  WHY?  Don't they get too hot? I never blanket my
fjords, even at -50F.  It would be counter productive. It would flatten
their fluffy coats and REDUCE the insulation. Of course they are not
clipped and have heavy coats, suitable for those temps.  AND I don't stall
them in a barn, either, they have a run-in and are free to come and go and
run around and get exercise. My four are all together and do stand together
when they are not moving around or playing. >>

I blanket if it's below about 15° and it's not sunny.  Because we don't
often have those temps during the day, and it's almost always sunny, the
blankets get used maybe 5-10 times each season.
When it's below about 10° though, with any weather, the ponies are in the
heated (to about 45°) barn, and are VERY happy about it.

Jamie
In the Mountains SW of Denver, CO

Re: shedding

[Jean Ernest]

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You blanket at +20?!!  WHY?  Don't they get too hot? I never blanket my
fjords, even at -50F.  It would be counter productive. It would flatten
their fluffy coats and REDUCE the insulation. Of course they are not
clipped and have heavy coats, suitable for those temps.  AND I don't stall
them in a barn, either, they have a run-in and are free to come and go and
run around and get exercise. My four are all together and do stand together
when they are not moving around or playing.

The only time I could see it might be necessary to blanket is when it is
rainging a cold rain, then a rain sheet, maybe.

My Fjords were happy dozing in the sun today..It warmed up to -10F!

They tell us to "plug in" our cars when it gets down to +20 or below, though.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, clear sky and wonderful Auroras tonight!

>
>My fjord mare is shedding, started a few days ago, and I blanket her when its
>20degrees and below, unless the wind is blowing and theres a wind chill.
Any
>warmer than that and she starts rubbing, letting me know to get if off.  

Re: Shedding

[Lisa Wiley]

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I will second that it is freezing in CT.  I forgot how cold it can get.  My 
PMU Fjord mare is on her way right now from Alberta I think she will feel 
right at home with this weather.

Lisa Wiley
Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs
Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose
http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/
http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html
http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html 

Re: shedding

[spiekath]

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- Original Message -
From: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:45 am
Subject: shedding

> This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Is anyone's Fjord shedding yet?  Heidi is starting to lose her 
> longer 
> hair and I can't seem to convince her she still needs all she has.
> 
> -- 
> Built Fjord Tough
> Carol M.
> On Golden Pond
> N. Wisconsin
> 

My pregnant mare is shedding but the other two fjords  are not.  She has been 
for about two weeks now.  The thoroughbred and mule both have shorter than 
usual winter coats this year.  They are all outside with a run-in stall.  

Kathy in Southeastern Idaho

Re: shedding

[Marsha Jo Hannah]

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> Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure an answer from Southern California really counts, but 
> Harrison Fjord is shedding out in great clumps.  My daughter took the 
> shedding blade to him yesterday and I'm sure made many birds very happy.

When we lived in California (near San Francisco), my old Fjord mare,
Nansy, would start to shed on December 21.  The 2 geldings usually
waited a couple more weeks, before starting to turn loose of some of
their woolies.  Here in SW Oregon, the boys started shedding out
somewhat later, although Nansy still started losing hair in December.

I just came back from the barn, where I gave the boys the "yank" test
(grab some fur and tug, to see what comes loose)---nothing, yet.

It's a little cooler here than where we were in California, but not
greatly so (winter daytime highs in the 40's vs 50's).  However, the
mid-winter days are noticably shorter.  My guess is that they wait
until the day length is "right" for Norway's spring, then shed.  ;-)

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
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15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon

RE: shedding

[Laura Kranzusch]

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No, in fact mine just started getting his thick winter coat about a month 
ago. He was in a stall for 2 months (November and part of December).  Now 
that he is outside his full winter coat has finally come in.


-Laura


From: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: shedding
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:45:33 -0600

This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is anyone's Fjord shedding yet?  Heidi is starting to lose her longer hair 
and I can't seem to convince her she still needs all she has.


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin

Re: shedding

[Jon A. Ofjord]

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 you wrote:

This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is anyone's Fjord shedding yet?
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin


Funny you should say that, as just yesterday (with the temps down to -28 
Sunday morning) I noticed my Fjord mare, Vedas was REALLY starting to shed 
her coat.  I brushed her a bit with a metal type curry and after just a few 
minutes, I was covered with hair!  I also noticed that her hairs were 
standing straight up.  She was standing in the lean-to with the afternoon 
sun shining on her and she was toasty warm.  I believe those hairs were 
standing upright to catch the sun's warmth and rays and to shine them down 
on her black skin.  I also noticed this fall that the horses seemed to have 
grown an extra hairy coat this winter.  Now, I can see they needed it as I 
don't think it's been above zero since last Tuesday some time.  Do they 
know when the winter is going to be especially tough?  Also, I wonder if 
the horses in the northern tier of states have longer winter coats than the 
horses down south?  Since I have not much else to do but freeze, I'm going 
out to measure the length of their coats.   Wow, how exciting!!


Mary Ofjord, who along with Philis Anderson, is waiting for 
spring.with snow now piled up to our eyeballs.



Jon & Mary Ofjord
North Coast Fjords
Grand Marais, MN 55604
www.northcoastfjords.com

Re: shedding

[Tamara Rousso]

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On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 09:45 AM, Carol J. Makosky wrote:


This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is anyone's Fjord shedding yet?  Heidi is starting to lose her longer 
hair and I can't seem to convince her she still needs all she has.

\


I'm not sure an answer from Southern California really counts, but 
Harrison Fjord is shedding out in great clumps.  My daughter took the 
shedding blade to him yesterday and I'm sure made many birds very happy.


Tamara
in sunny Fallbrook CA where the temps are in the 70's and I'm not ready 
for summer.

RE: shedding

[Jeanine Rachau]

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Yes, Elska is starting to shed and it's freezing and below here - but day
length is getting longer!

Jeanine

BLUE MOUNTAIN FARM
La Grande, Oregon, USA
http://www.OregonVOS.net/~jrachau/index.htm
http://www.OregonVOS.net/~jrachau/fjord.htm
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carol J. Makosky
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:46 AM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: shedding


This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is anyone's Fjord shedding yet?  Heidi is starting to lose her longer
hair and I can't seem to convince her she still needs all she has.

--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin

Re: Shedding

[Jean Gayle]

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My Gunnar has been shedding slightly, leaving fjord angels about the pasture
tho.  This morning when I went to feed he looks like if he gave a good shake
there would be a hairy fjord statue for a moment before it collapsed into a
pile.  Need a good wind storm as it is a bit early for the birds to collect
for bedding.





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Re: shedding blade

[GailDorine]

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And aren't the birds happy when you use your shedding blade and there's all 
that fine nesting material (vbg).

Gail Dorine
Las Cruces, NM

Re: shedding

[Rhys717]

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Here in Scotland too, my fjord has started to shed her winter coat!  Last 
year she was very hairy until May also.  Seem to remember reading somewhere 
that shedding occurs when there are more hours of daylight as I think you can 
synthesise this in order for them to shed early.  My mare is turned out so if 
this is right, Spring must be on the way!!!

Linda & Rike
Scotland

Re: Shedding

[Mary Thurman]

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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Hi List,
> I also own a Yak.  It was told to me long ago that
> the shedding of hair and 
> the growing of new coats has to deal with the amount
> of daylight in the day, 
> and has nothing to do with the temperature.

Sue,

Aha!!  This explains the mystery of why old Line grows
coat - yards of it! - until about Christmas time and
then promptly begins to shed it all out!!  In clouds! 
She sheds from Christmas until Memorial Day(end of
May), takes a short rest, then begins to shed/grow
again in midsummer.  At least the 'summer shed' isn't
as copious, but it IS a nuisance.  Our more 'modern'
Fjords don't really seem to grow as much coat, nor to
shed quite as frequently.  The coats on our two
geldings seemed to grow and shed based more on the
weather.  Anyone else noticed that?  BTW, Line is 29
years old and is one of the 'old style' Fjords bred in
Norway in the early '70's.

Mary

 

=
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Raintree Farms
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Re: shedding

[jean gayle]

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Suzan my new boy, Fjord pony, came from northern Calif. and is hairier than
any of mine.  He doesnt have just thick mat he has long four inch outer hair
and flags from his knees down.  No sheding here and we are 48 deg today.  He
does sweat.  Jean Gayle

>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I thought I was seeing things when I noticed my horse shedding. I worried she
>was sick or something. It's good to hear Mary O's horses are too. We live down
>the highway from them about 150 miles (on the same big lake).
>It's true, we are having colder weather than Alaska. It's still below zero. We
>have light, though. It's still light when I get home from work at 5:00. I can
>go out to feed Petra without the Petzl head lamp on. Not so lucky in the
>morning though. It's still dark then.
>Suzan
>
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