Re: Holly (Solar x Yvonne-Lorentz) had her foal
This message is from: Ellen Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations Carol. Love stories with happy endings. Ellen Barry. Beaver Dam Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia On the 6th day of the 6th month of 2006, Holly had her foal -- We've named him BDF XAVIER after the proud university in our hometown of Antigonish. Ellen Barry. (who stays on her horse by the grace of God and her horse)
Re: Holly (Solar x Yvonne-Lorentz) had her foal
This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia
On the 6th day of the 6th month of 2006, Holly had her foal -- We've named
him BDF XAVIER after the proud university in our hometown of Antigonish.
I've been keeping Holly out in the pasture as much as possible, and putting
her in the foaling stall just before dark. -- When I went out on Tuesday,
I didn't see her right away, and had a feeling she'd foaled. -- Then I
found them way over to the side of the pasture near the woods. -- His head
was clear, but the back legs still inside, so I left them alone and went
into the house to tell the interns and to call Kelly from her loft apartment
next to the big barn.
By the time we all got back to the pasture, he was trying to stand up, but
because he was on a hillside, and the grass was wet and slippery, he kept
tumbling further down the hill. We didn't want to interfere, so let him
keep trying, but eventually he tumbled into a pile of brush and rocks, and
by this time, it was pretty dark. Kelly then called Warrn up thinking that
big, strong, and young Warren could carry the foal back to the stable. But,
the colt was still to wet and slippery to accomplish that. So, then we got
a wool blanket and rolled him into it, and three interns strategically
placed on each side of the blanket (to prevent him spilling out) carried him
to the foaling box. -- Once inside he had much more success standing. ---
Holly had passed the placenta, and the colt had passed the meconium, now if
he would only nurse, we could all go to bed. But, this was a problem as
well. The colt fumbled around in all the wrong places and never could seem
to get it right. Holly was very patient, and kept nudging the little guy to
the teat, but the poor little bugger was just worn out. So, down he
flopped, and by now we were worried about him not getting the colostrum. We
milked about a cup of colostrum from Holly into a rubbermaid, and then used
a turkey baster to get it inside the baby. -- Xaveier didn't care for the
hard plastic turkey baster, so Kelly let him suck her fingers at the same
time inserting and squeezing the turkey baster. That way, he drank it all
down, and all of us went to bed.
By morning all was normal and fine. Xavier ("X") was nursing up a storm and
mother and baby were happy and well.
This morning (his second day) the weather was cold and rainy, about 50
degrees. -- I thought about leaving Holly and X in, but she wanted out in
the worst way, so they're out, and the colt is galloping circles around his
dam. -- What a joy, but I'm rather glad we're only having one this
ear. -- Next year will be a different story.
Best Regards, Carol Rivoire
Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II, Ltd.
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Solar daughter need to sell
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI We have a 8yo Fjord mare reg. name is MH Selma she is a brown dun She is a daughter of SOLAR and a granddaughter of GRABB on her dams side I have owned her since she was 4months old, she is very easy to work with, up to date on shots, farrier, wormings, coggins, teeth etc. she is a proven broodmare dam of 3 foals gets in foal easily and delivers without complications and will allow you in stall at foaling and after to work with the foal. She is trained goes very well under saddle, has been worked in a harness but has never been hooked to a cart, ridden on trail and in ring, gets along well with other horses and she has no bad habits We are getting out of owning and breeding Fjords we are going to strictly breed and own Paint horses so a super loving home is what we are looking for for Selma, and we need to sell her before the snow comes due to my limited stalls we have dropped her price to $4500. Firm can go no lower than that. We are located in Maine and can help with transportation and also know of a very reliable hauler that is based out of Mass. can e-mail pic. and will have a video available soon showing Selma under saddle, you can e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me at (207)473-9364 if no answer leave a message. Thanks for looking Beth
Solar daughter
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi We have a Solar daughter and she is also a granddaughter of Garbb on her dam's side that we need to sell she is 8yrs old, goes well under saddle, also broke to harness though we have never hooked her to a cart we have never owned one,very easy to work with, up to date on everything, she is 13.3H is a brown dun and her reg. name is MH Selma, is a proven broodmare and is a very good dam to her foals. We need to find her a new home as soon as possible due to my limited space and only going to breed APHA-paint horses can e-mail pic. and will be doing a video this week(July 4th-9th) for serious inquiries only. We are located in Maine and know of a hauler based out of Mass. that is excellent and fees are reasonable he goes all over the U.S. and into some parts of Canada We have owned Selma since she was a weanling so we are looking for a "super loving" home for her and would prefer another Fjord owner. Can send more info. on her via e-mail or phone contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]or (207)473-9364 ask for Beth
Re: Solar
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Carol, So far you have described this son of Solar, except for the height. He is very gentle. I am trying to do everything with him, to get him ready for the evaluation and it amazes me that a horse, especially a stallion that hasn't had any training is so willing to go back into a hard work schedule is not fighting it. Do you know if Courage is still alive? Thanks, Pat
Re: SOLAR
This message is from: "Carol Riviore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -- From: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Holly - Solar daughter This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol Is this the same Holly that is a daughter of Solar? And isn't Holly the dam of John Arthur and Magnum that Beth Beymer did/does so much with? . . . . . . I am trying to get a handle on what Solar threw..just curious and intrigued - so far all three are small, 13-3 no more than 14 hands - but as I get older tend to appreciate the smaller ones. Anyone else who has stories about Solar or his offspring, I'd enjoy hearing about it. > Pat Holland Hi Pat, No, this Holly, the Holly who just had a filly, is not the Holly who is the Solar daughter. -- The dam of the little filly, who we have named BDF Whitney, is registered as Holly I -- However, we call her Holly II to distinguish her from the Solar daughter, Holly, who we call Holly I because she came first. ----- Are you confused yet? --- As to the characteristics of Solar offspring, I can tell you a lot! -- Twenty or so years ago, Chief Inspector Bob van Bon, told me that Solar produced sons and daughters who were almost uniformly easy to use. -- Of course, exceptions exist in every aspect of horses. -- Solar was a wonderful stallion, which is why the Dutch Studbook approved his son Courage as a Studbook STallion. -- We have two Solar daughters in our Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacation program --- BDF Toril and Holly. -- We've had lots of other Solar sons and daughters as well as grandsons and granddaughters. -- I can't think of one of them that was not easy to train and a pleasure to use. --- All of them have been high quality horses capable of being used safely by all members of the family, and also capable of being good competition horses. As to size, Solar was a big stallion - tall and big bodied. Many of his offspring are the same. The two mares we use are both big bodied, but one is average height, while the other is tall (14.1 hands). -- Others I remember were all at least normal size, and a few geldings were very tall (14.2 - 14.3 hands). Regards, Carol Rivoire
Re: Holly - Solar daughter
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 06:44 PM 6/6/2005, you wrote: This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone else who has stories about Solar or his offspring, I'd enjoy hearing about it. Apparently other than Courage, the Dutch stallion (does anyone know if he is still alive?) there are only two intact offspring of Solar left. One is out west, is it Keith Brighton who owns him? No Storrs Bishop owns SHATALYA'S ASHILAR I also show a ASEN owned by John Bannon & Louise Poppema up in Maine. - and Kimpton Brooks - the fellow in my barn right now. Pat Holland === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Holly - Solar daughter
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol Is this the same Holly that is a daughter of Solar? And isn't Holly the dam of John Arthur and Magnum that Beth Beymer did/does so much with? The reason I'm asking is I have a Solar son - Kimpton Brooks Eiken Var, an 11 yr old stallion - in training right now and I am becoming very fond of him and his attitude and work ethic. I also trained two of HIS offspring this past year and one was a bit wired (to put it nicely,) but the other was very willing. I am trying to get a handle on what Solar threw..just curious and intrigued - so far all three are small, 13-3 no more than 14 hands - but as I get older tend to appreciate the smaller ones. Anyone else who has stories about Solar or his offspring, I'd enjoy hearing about it. Apparently other than Courage, the Dutch stallion (does anyone know if he is still alive?) there are only two intact offspring of Solar left. One is out west, is it Keith Brighton who owns him? - and Kimpton Brooks - the fellow in my barn right now. Pat Holland
Solar daughter for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI Beth & Nate from MaineIt has been several years(I think 4yrs) since we have posted anything on this board, we have owned several Fjords and have enjoyed them all, but we are getting out of Fjords and going to strictly breed APHA(paint) horses We have sold the other 2 Fjords and have one Fjord mare that it has been an extremely hard decision to make to sell her we have owned her since she was 4months old and she will turn 8 this year but she is to nice a mare to not be used or to continue to produce gorgeous Fjord foals. Her registered name is MH Selma a brown dun, 13.3H she is a daughter of Solar and her dam is Christiana by Grabb Selma is very easy to work with is up to date with everything---shots,wormings,farrier,teeth,coggins etc. references of vet and farrier can be given, she has no bad habits, trailer loads easily she is a proven broodmare gets in foal easily, and delivers easily and allows us in with her when she foals she is a very good mother to her foals.We broke her to harness when she was 2yrs old but have never hooked her to a cart we do not own one, put several rides on her when she was 3 and 4yrs old and then has been used as a broodmare "she is going to a trainers on May 7th to have further training under saddle" We really need to sell her due to our limited stall space and new paint mares coming in we know of a shipper that we have used who is excellent with the horses he is based out of Mass. and is headed out west I think he said around May 24th his rates are very reasonable can give you his web site/phone/contact info. he makes several trips out west or where the need should be at least once or twice a month We are asking $5800. OBRO and we are ""open to serious offers"" a good loving home is very important can send pic. by e-mail and could also do a video for serious inquiries you can contact us by phone (207)473-9364 late afternoon or evenings or by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beth & Nate Hotham Fort Fairfield, Maine
RE: Fencing - recommendation??? USE SOLAR
This message is from: "Bob of THS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We LOVE our solar powered fence charger. $0 to run. And never a problem with keeping a charge. Even in Seattle! Bob < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.horsemanshipschool.com/ _ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mariposa Farm > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:17 PM > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: Re: Fencing - recommendation??? > > > This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Jean Gayle wrote: > > > This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Mark, besides the expense of putting up these fences how about > the electric > > bill? Do you know how much it costs to maintain the electricity? > > Hi Jean- > > I don't know what the fence burns as far as electricity but I > don't think it is > very much. I'm thinking a properly set up fence is an "open" > circuit and only > becomes a "closed" circuit or short when something gets zapped, > be it a horse, > person or weed. I think a stock tank heater (1500 watts) burns way more > juice. Tomorrow I'll look at the watt rating on the unit to make > sure. Having > an electrified fence probably saves money in the long run when > you consider the > horses don't rub up against it, chew it or knock it down. I have > some board > fence here too for paddocks and I'm always replacing a board here > and there. > > I just paid my January electricity bill which covers 9) stock > tanks, 13) 400 > watt arena lights, 13) heated 5 gallon stall buckets and 2) hot > water heaters > not to mention all the other uses in the house and barn and it > was $280.00. > The summer bill is usually $130.00 or so. I don't think the > fencing is much of > it. > > I just recently found 10 solar hot water panels pretty cheap that > I'm either > going to figure out how to heat my stock tanks or supply the dog > kennel with > "in the floor" heat. If I can do the stock tanks I think I can save over > $100/mo. for the nine months of winter we have here each year! > (If I do the dog > kennel I'll have the most grateful dogs in the county) > > Mark > Mariposa Farm
Re: solar powered fencer
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean Gayle wrote: > Lori that is interesting about batteries not freezing. My tractor battery > always freezes and I had to buy a new one every year until I finally now > keep a 60 watt light over it. Jean The key is that a battery has to be kept charged to not freeze. If you rarely use your tractor, the batteries charge could run down and then it could freeze. A lead acid battery needs to be used (re-charged) at least once a month. If you use your tractor less than that in the winter, or for short periods of time so the alternator can't fully re-charge it, the battery could lose its charge enough to freeze. Then your light-bulb will certainly come in handy for not allowing it to freeze. In seven years of Canadian winter our fence battery has never frozen because the solar panel keeps it charged. Lori
Re: solar powered fencer
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lori that is interesting about batteries not freezing. My tractor battery always freezes and I had to buy a new one every year until I finally now keep a 60 watt light over it. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 -Original Message- From: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:20 PM Subject: Re: solar powered fencer >This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Jean Gayle wrote: > >> Lori, what happens to the batteries to the solar units when it freezes?? >> Jean > >Don't worry, a charged battery won't freeze - because it contains sulfuric >acid (not water). This is just like your car battery won't freeze in the >winter. If you let the charge run down a battery might freeze but the solar >panel keeps it charged. We live in a place that gets very cold and this has >never caused a problem with the fence. > >Lori
Re: solar fencers (LONG!)
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DeeAnna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > found that I had the best luck with a heavy-gage steel wire sold for > electric fencing (can't remember the gage offhand). It had low > resistance so the solar worked really well and, best of all, the > wire is pretty cheap. If you want the wire to be more visible, you > can run the electric fencing tape with the wire if you want > to. Alternatively, you can tie on strips of plastic flagging tape > every 10 feet or so -- the kind surveyors or construction people use. First of all, the above post contained LOTS of good advice, which I didn't reprint. I am only commenting on those areas where my experience differs, or amplifies. Our current place came with a bunch of electrified high-tensile fencing. After making some modifications to it, I've decided that I don't like HT---the thick, stiff wire is a PAIN to work with---so I'd recommend making sure you're getting "ordinary" galvanized wire, rather than HT. I agree that wire tends to hold up better than tape, especially in a windy location. Wind isn't a problem here, but at our California place, it would saw the tape thru the insulators, soon breaking the tape. I think I'd prefer to string one strand of tape (or the new "rope" products, if wind is an issue) to make the fence more visible. My experience with surveyor's flagging is that it's hard to make it stay in the middle of fence spans, where it's needed for visibility. Also, cattle find surveyor's tape to be delicious. I suspect that a Fjord wouldn't be above sampling some, and I'm not sure how well it'll digest. Wildlife is another issue that has to figure into choosing tape vs wire. In CA, we had a big problem with bucks in the rut getting their antlers hung in the tape, and fighting it until it broke the tape. Wire seemed to slide off their antlers easier. > Now that I use a regular fencer, my favorite product, especially for > temporary electric fencing, is an inexpensive, thin, twisted wire > and plastic filament product. It looks like black and white string > a scant 1/8" in diameter. [...] The horses also see this "string" > surprisingly well. In CA, I tried some yellow and black poly twine at first, but my old mare couldn't see it. The 1/2" red/black or yellow/black tape worked better for me. Here in OR, the cattle ranchers use a 3/4" white tape, which is MUCH sturdier than the stuff sold in catalogs for horses. (But, in this area, visibility against snow isn't an issue.) I use it for temporary fencing, rolling it up on extension cord reels when I want to move it. > Invest in a voltage tester that has a series of LED's -- the kind that > has more LED's that flash when the voltage is high and fewer when the > voltage is low. I'd recommend going one step further---invest in a digital voltage tester. The LEDs are hard to read accurately in bright daylight (although the digital display won't light up at night). For partial shorts caused by vegetation or cracked insulators, debugging is easier when you can determine, for instance, that there's 5.7 KV on one wire, but only 5.2 KV on its neighbor. I've also found it handy to install cut-out switches at various points along the fence (usually gateways). That way, I can work my way back from the far end of the fence, isolating chunks of fence, until I locate the bad section, then go over it in more detail. In snow country, you'll also want to arrange things such that you can easily de-power the lower strands, one at a time, as the snow builds up around the fence. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: solar fencers (LONG!)
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use aluminum wire designed for electric fencing. I presume it has even lower resistance than steel. I use it because I believe it will break more readily if a horse gets caught up in it. > >After living with (and cussing out) a 6 V solar for several years, I >eventually found that I had the best luck with a heavy-gage steel wire >sold for electric fencing (can't remember the gage offhand). It had low >resistance so the solar worked really well and, best of all, the wire is >pretty cheap. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solar fencers (LONG!)
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Solar chargers can work, but, like other people have already said, they're not nearly as good as the regular plug-in kind. But if there's no 'lectric, you gotta do what you gotta do. Buy the best charger you can afford -- if you can spring for a 12 V solar, do it. A 6 V charger often doesn't have enough juice to run a long stretch of fence, especially if you have anything -- and it won't take much -- grounding the wire out. Low impedance is good too. Keep your fence as short as possible. If you are determined to use a tape product for your electric fence, buy one that's specifically recommended for solar. The wires in most tapes have too much electrical resistance because the wires are way too thin. You won't get the snap you need with that kind of tape. After living with (and cussing out) a 6 V solar for several years, I eventually found that I had the best luck with a heavy-gage steel wire sold for electric fencing (can't remember the gage offhand). It had low resistance so the solar worked really well and, best of all, the wire is pretty cheap. If you want the wire to be more visible, you can run the electric fencing tape with the wire if you want to. Alternatively, you can tie on strips of plastic flagging tape every 10 feet or so -- the kind surveyors or construction people use. Flagging tape is easy to use and far cheaper than electric-fencing tape. I've done both, and don't really have a preference as far as horse safety goes. Digression: Now that I use a regular fencer, my favorite product, especially for temporary electric fencing, is an inexpensive, thin, twisted wire and plastic filament product. It looks like black and white string a scant 1/8" in diameter. It's less expensive than tape. It is far lighter and easier to handle than regular wire. I can quickly wind it up on an inexpensive electric-cord reel when I need to take the fence down. The reel prevents tangles and speeds the process of putting the fence back up too. The horses also see this "string" surprisingly well. Remember a horse doesn't have color vision like we do -- contrast is more important than bright color -- it should contrast well both with green grass and white snow. Actually, black & white work better for horses than the brightest blaze orange. Anyway, back to solar fencers: Make sure you can get parts for the charger locally -- or keep important spares on hand. It is not at all fun to have to make a two hour drive just to buy some little bitty $20 part the local Co-op doesn't happen to sell. Ground the charger really well -- don't think that hooking the ground wire to a metal T-post in your fence will be good enough. You can sometimes get away with that with a regular charger, but it's not a good idea even then. Use at least one 8' long copper ground rod (preferably 2 or 3) close to the charger. Locate the rod on the outside of the fence to prevent any injuries to your horses. Use a T-post pounder gadget to pound the rod in at least 5' to 5 1/2' deep. Why not pound it in deeper? Ideally, in a permanent installation, you should. But solar chargers sometimes get moved from one spot to another. If you leave a couple of feet of the ground rod sticking out of the ground, you can carefully pull the rod with a T-post puller if you later want to do so. Deeper and you'll have problems pulling the rod easily. Use a nice thick copper wire (12 gage or even thicker if you can) for the ground wire -- don't just use the thin fence wire or tape for the ground. Use a proper wire clamp to solidly connect the ground wire to the rod. You should be able to get these clamps where you buy your grounding rods. Keep the fenceline really clean -- no grass, weeds, bugs, dead birds, snow, whatever touching the hot wire. Regularly check the fenceline to make sure deer jumping the fence haven't snagged the hot wire on things that will ground it out. If the fencer is on the other side of the road from your house and located in an out of the way spot, it will be a serious temptation to not check the fencer regularly. That's not a good idea, speaking from personal experience. Put the charger in a spot that's convenient and easy to get to -- right by a gate you'll use regularly, if you can. Learn to listen to the snapping sound the fencer makes when it's running right. Solars are pretty quiet compared to regular fencers, but they do make a little sound when things are going right. The sound will change a bit or even go silent when there's something wrong -- can't count on the sound to always tell you there's trouble, but it's a good quick check. Invest in a voltage tester that has a series of LED's -- the kind that has more LED's that flash when the voltage is high and fewer when the voltage is low. The brightness of th
solar fencers/new Fjord owner
This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > We have had terrible luck with a solar fencer. No matter what we did, the > fence would short out and drain the power. The fence shorts out on: snow > bridging the gap between the post and wire, bugs bridging the gap, weeds and > grass, anything that falls on the fence.We eventually had to bring power up > to the fence and use the plug in type fencer. > > Suzan > Hi, I've been a lurker on this list. As a new Fjord owner, I have not had much to contribute, but alas this topic I can speak on! I have a few hundred sheep and operate up to 6 fencer energizers. Two are plug in models and 4 are battery operated. I've tested numerous solar powered fencers, and for sheep, none are 'hot' enough to do the job. But there is an explanation that goes beyond how the battery is charged for the problem mentioned above. First check the obvious, it may be the solar pannel is too small for the job. Adequately sized solar pannels are not cheap, and some of the cheap solar units found in catalogs are underpowered. A good solar pannel will cost over $300. But there is another possible problem. Some of the newer generation energizers (the unit that sends the charge out on the wire) are suppose to be 'smart' and send more energy out on the wire if something is touching (grounding) the wire. The idea is that minimal power is used when no animal is touching the fence, and then more power is sent out if the animal touches it, or if some vegetation is shorting out the fence. Thus assuring the animal recieves a shock. My own experience with these type of fencers is that they run the battery down -extreemly- fast when weather conditions or vegetation cause a short. Hence every unit that I have tried like that has failed, and I will now only use those low impedence units that send the same amount of energy out no matter what the weed load is. My personal favorite has been speed rite, but Gallaghar has been a good unit for others. I simply recharge the battery every 10 days. My new Fjord was purchased to move hay for sheep and cattle. I am in the process of training her team mate to pull. My perspective on price was a little different than those mentioned earlier. I basically compared the purchase to a tractor. Either I purchased a tractor, or put together a team. Factors that were extreemly important to me is willingness to please, quiet unflappable temperment, and lots of prior handling so that if we get into an akward situation the horses would trust me and remain calm. Sweet temperment that can win over a reluctant husband is a big plus. I purchased my mare from Patti Walter, who did a wonderful job training her. IMO the Fjord holds more value because of its unique roll that no other breed can fill. large enough to work, yet small enough to ride, with a wonderful disposition. Janet McNally http://www.pinenet.com/~tamarack/homepage.html
Re: solar powered fencer
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean Gayle wrote: > Lori, what happens to the batteries to the solar units when it freezes?? > Jean Don't worry, a charged battery won't freeze - because it contains sulfuric acid (not water). This is just like your car battery won't freeze in the winter. If you let the charge run down a battery might freeze but the solar panel keeps it charged. We live in a place that gets very cold and this has never caused a problem with the fence. Lori
Re: solar powered fencer
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lori, what happens to the batteries to the solar units when it freezes?? Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 -Original Message- From: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: solar powered fencer >This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >SueFreivald wrote: >> However, we will need to use a Solar >> charger for the electric fence (Using wide tape). > >We have two Gallager solar powered fencer chargers. Both work very well and >we are pleased with them. No problems in more than 7 years of use, and the >fences are very hot and Fjord-proof. I can attempt to look up model numbers >if you need them. The second charger we bought when we built the pasture >west of the house is an integrated unit, with charger, battery, and panel >all in one, and the other, older, one has a separate charger and solar panel >and the battery is a marine battery we keep in a rubbermaid box outside the >fence. > >Lori
solar powered fencer
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SueFreivald wrote: > However, we will need to use a Solar > charger for the electric fence (Using wide tape). We have two Gallager solar powered fencer chargers. Both work very well and we are pleased with them. No problems in more than 7 years of use, and the fences are very hot and Fjord-proof. I can attempt to look up model numbers if you need them. The second charger we bought when we built the pasture west of the house is an integrated unit, with charger, battery, and panel all in one, and the other, older, one has a separate charger and solar panel and the battery is a marine battery we keep in a rubbermaid box outside the fence. Lori
Re: solar fencers
This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We've been using solar for several years and haven't had problems with it. Vegetation will definitely short out the wire - gives a good reason to keep the fence line clear - though Nina and Merit have it well mowed down on either side in their "sacrifice" acre. Teressa Kandianis
Re: solar fencers
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have had terrible luck with a solar fencer. No matter what we did, the fence would short out and drain the power. The fence shorts out on: snow bridging the gap between the post and wire, bugs bridging the gap, weeds and grass, anything that falls on the fence.We eventually had to bring power up to the fence and use the plug in type fencer. Suzan
Re: Solar - A Matador of N.A. Fjord Breeding
This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - I knew that Solar wasn't in good health, but I was still shocked and saddened to hear of the death of this wonderful stallion. Solar was one of the "Madadors" of North American Fjord breeding. The term "Matador" as it applies to Fjord breeding means stallions who've had a tremendous influence on the breed - stallions like Njal, Rosendalsborken, Bergfast, Malm, Baronen. Solar had all the credentials in the world, both in Norway and Holland, and now after close to twenty years, in North America as well. He was born in Norway in 1977, and approved there in 1981, and either that year or soon after was purchased by the Nederlandse Fjordenpaarden Stamboek as a Studbook stallion. Solar was a son of Helleve 1756 who was a son of Valebu 1569. I believe Valebu can be considered a "Matador" as well. Some well-known and important stallions can be traced back to Valebu. These include: Solar, Reidulf Ree, Rei Halsnaess, Dragmann DK 475, Norman 123, Briggen. One descendent of Valebu who was a Dutch Approved Stallion, though not a great or long-lived one, is Zolvar, better known as BRIG, now in northern California, 22 years old and still winning CDEs. Another descendent of Valebu is the stallion, Karibu, also in the U.S. Holland very much valued the Solar contribution. Bob van Bon once said to me that Solar's value was in the character and temperament of his offspring. Bob's comment was that "anybody can be successful with a Solar son or daughter." We've certainly found that to be true. We've had (and have) several Solar daughters, and all have been wonderfully easy horses. Right now, we have two Solar daughters (BDF Toril and Holly), and a Solar son, Shatalya's Jarle (for sale). It's not an exaggeration to say these are the some of the nicest examples of the breed. Solar was a nice stallion, but I remember once when his "niceness" worked against him. It was the stallion class at Woodstock many many years ago. There were Norwegian and Dutch judges, and despite Solar having been an Approved Stallion in both countries, he came in third in the judging. The reason was - He was too quiet. He didn't strut his stuff as much as the judges like to see. The other reason the judges gave was that Solar's belly was too rounded, and this can be seen in all his photos, as well as in all his offspring. Solar's approved son in Holland, Courage, has the rounded "mare belly". Most all the Solar daughters we've had have tended to be extremely big in the belly, even those that have never foaled. --- It's just a characteristic of the line. Another one of those things you find in horse breeding that keep you humble and realizing that "No horse is perfect!". Not even the best of them, and Solar was one of the best! We love and value our Solar daughters and our one Solar son. They're fabulous Fjords, and the two mares have worked and produced for us for a lot of years. Toril, being barren, has been a school and performance horse her whole life, and is always there for us. She really is a jewel. She'll be 19 years old this April, and we'll be depending on her as usual for our Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacations. Holly, who'll be 15 this Spring has given us seven extremely good foals, and in between years, does yeoman work in the driving vacations. Jarle, who's only 3 1/2 is already a fabulous trail horse, and is progressing beautifully in his driving. --- These are good horses, easy to train, and easy to work. We've had other beautiful Solar daughters at the farm recently to be bred to Gjest. Our driving vacation guests fondly remember Zona from this summer. A great driving horse, a real worker, and 100% dependable. I'm so very sorry that Solar's gone, and I think it's important that North American Fjord people realize just how good a horse he was, and how important he's been to our breeding programs. And how LUCKY we were that Solar ended up on this side of the Atlantic. For those of you who don't know how that happened, I'll tell you the story as briefly as I can. He was purchased in Holland by the owner of Ivory Ranch, which was a big-time operation that owned many famous stadium jumpers and employed Margie Goldstein to ride them. This man had a son who lived in the Catskill Mountains in NY. The son was a back-to-the-lander, and the father thought that a herd of Fjordhorses would be a nice gift. The son had expressed interest in Fjords at one time or another, so the father bought him a herd - Solar and six or eight mares. The son was less than pleased because all he wanted was one Fjord for his little farm . . . not a whole herd of
Re: Solar and Lindsay
This message is from: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > . Solar passed away on 10/2/2001. When I started working for Howard and Sophie they sent me to the east to meet with Lindsay. I spent two days with her and Susan Cook and Marcy Bear. I'd been away from horses for some years and forgotten what it was like to be wrapped in horse talk. The four of us took off in carts and horseback to trail ride the lovely woods of Vermont. Yea right, at one point I expected to see Sherpas carrying oxygen tanks. Those New Englanders are one tuff lot.Then the next evening, Lindsay gave me the tourist thing, only we were loosing daylight fast. Lindsay would point out a covered bridge over there- only you couldn't see it because it was so dark. She pointed out a historic farm with a round barn - only you couldn't see it because it was so dark - It was also pointed out to me where the beginning to the Bob Newhart show was filmed - but you couldn't see it . and on and on. Maybe you had to be there, but I never laughed so hard. She also introduced me to Denny Emerson - a personal friend of hers. I was impressed. But what I remember most of the trip was Solar - and Lindsay - she loved that horse more than her next breath. She shared some of her history with me and it sounded like he got her through some pretty ruff times. I've heard alot of stories on the Digest about people loosing their horses and the effect left on them, but boy, I'd bank on the fact that Lindsay and Solar top the list for heartbreak. Solar had 73 offspring. some super daughters like Villrose, Bryhyl Aryel, Sophia, Holly and Burlwood's Zoe. I'm sure there are more daughters deserving mention but these are the only ones I've seen. Not to mention the breeding stallion Courage, still standing in Holland - a son of Solar. Great horse - great owner - irreplaceable partnership.
Re: Solar
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 06:50 AM 12/6/2001 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I heard that Solar might have passed away. Does anyone know if this is true? Yes that is true. Solar passed away on 10/2/2001. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Solar
This message is from: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I heard that Solar might have passed away. Does anyone know if this is true?
