RE: NFHR Evaluation
This message is from: "Curtis Pierce" What year will the Montana Evaluation be held, 2015 or 2016? In any case, sorry, too far to attend. I do hope you have the numbers to support it! Curt Pierce Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: NFHR Evaluation
This message is from: "Mary Ofjord" Wow! That sounds like a fantastic time! I wish we could attend. Mary Ofjord North Coast Services, LLC 218-387-1879 -Original Message- From: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com [mailto:owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Bauwens Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 12:10 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com; Carriage Driving List Subject: NFHR Evaluation This message is from: Wendy Bauwens The NFHR recently approved a proposed evaluation in Bozeman, Montana! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
NFHR Evaluation
This message is from: Wendy Bauwens The NFHR recently approved a proposed evaluation in Bozeman, Montana! The evaluation will be August 20-21 with arrivals welcome at the Gallatin County Fairgrounds on Friday August 19. We will have access to the large outdoor arena with covered grand stands, a warm up arena, wash area, an indoor barn with 34 stalls (for horses and tack), full RV hookups and a showering trailer. The facilities are quite nice and the staff is overly accommodating. The site is VERY easy to access from both Interstate 90 and the Yellowstone/Bozeman Regional Airport. There are numerous places to stay, feed stores, outstanding culinary delights and local flavor within blocks from the Fair Grounds. A proposed pre-evaluation clinic will be held June 4,5 2016 in Clyde Park. Wendy Bauwens and Phil Odden will be your clinicians and happy to help you prepare for the upcoming event if this is your first time. During the evaluation, we hope to have a dinner party and tour at High Country Horse Drawn in the foothills of the Bridger Mountains. Harlan and Joal Olson are GREAT folks who do museum quality restoration work of vintage horse drawn vehicles. They are fabulous hosts and know how to put on a partyâ¦. this could be a social gathering not soon to forget. There will be a fee for this event and the menu will, without a doubt, be delightful. We will need an army of volunteers to make this event happen and a troop of horses to make it pay. Your help and horse participation are requested where ever possible. Please set aside the dates, prep your horses, and get ready to enjoy this great event. If you aren't on the NFHR constant contact mailing list, now might be the time as there will be updates as the time draws near. If you have ANY questions, are interested in signing up or would like to volunteer, please contact me and I'll HOLD you to it! :) Please pass it along to any one you know who might like to participate in one aspect or another. Please PM, email (wcbauw...@gmail.com) or call 406-223-6933 with questions, concerns, interest and comments! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
CFHA Evaluation Video
This message is from: Curtis Pierce Hi, I have been in contact with Pat Wolfe recently. This year he was involved with a video project for the Canadian Fjord Horse Association (CFHA). The DVD is available to CFHA members. They are hoping to get more members in order to recover some of the costs of the video. You can find more info about the membership at http://www.cfha.org/membership.html. The video explains the preparation needed and what the evaluators are looking for during the conformation and movement test. There is a lot of detail in the video that is real helpful for anyone interested in having their adult Fjord evaluated in North America. A lower quality version of the video is available on YouTube at http://youtu.be/qUJEjhGlCAI. There is one very small issue in the video, you should not use black hoof polish on a Fjord in the conformation and movement test if the Fjord has white or striped hoofs. You can use clear hoof polish in all cases. Also, the NFHR has not announced if they are going to use a plywood board for the Fjord to stand on during the conformation inspection. Take care! Curt Pierce Mathias, WV http://www.deepcreekfarm.com/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Using the evaluation system for stallion selection.
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <>...But, all ranting aside, the widespread prevalence of comments like this is a real detriment to people's understanding of the system (Lori - --- I think both you and Solveig have touched on the same aspect of the Eval system, perhaps mine as well-- that âperception is everythingâ and âlow informationâ participants may be glued to the dot to dot blue ribbon concept of bygone show days. Shows perhaps diminished by the Eval system, as well as genetic diversity. It appeared there were more Eval entrants at Libby than show entrants, but that is an unverified observation on my part. Yearâs ago I asked that we not use blue ribbons in the Eval system--- rely on numerical critique aloneâfor the aforementioned reason; if we are concentrating our breeding choices on the crème d la crème of the breed (so to speak) we are subsequently inbreeding. A highly rated stallion is a highly used stallion and it is the creation of popular studs, more than any other thing, that can alter the genetic balance of a pure breed. Ruthie, nw mt us Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Using the evaluation system for stallion selection.
This message is from: Lori Albrough On 10/15/13 10:13 AM, Olivia Farm, Inc. wrote: Again, where I agree is that if everyone only looks for the "best" stallion out there Solveig's post, with it's wonderfully ironic (to me) quotation marks, has given me a poke to speak up. For years we have been subjected to ads touting the "Best NFHR evaluated stallion", also ads with comments like "fifth highest NFHR evaluated mare", and now even "highest ranked stallion in NFHR". Fer crying out loud already, the system does not RANK horses! But, all ranting aside, the widespread prevalence of comments like this is a real detriment to people's understanding of the system, and for more educated people, it detracts from their respect, and ultimately, their participation in the system. What is the "best" horse for you is not the "best" horse for me, and anyone who says that the evaluation system says which horse is "best" is just blowing smoke and displaying ignorance. Lori -- Lori Albrough Bluebird Lane Fjords R.R.#3 Moorefield Ont Canada N0G 2K0 phone: 519-638-5598 email: l...@bluebirdlane.com http://www.bluebirdlane.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Using the evaluation system for stallion selection.
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." Hello from Olivia Farm! Kay wanted to hear from a breeder, and I decided to post, even though I haven't done so in quite a while. I hope I qualify as a "breeder" of Norwegian Fjords well enough to answer :). On the topic of evaluations as a tool for stallion selection, I have to agree and also disagree with Ruthie. I agree that if people aren't being careful in their own selection of stallions, looking at pedigrees, blood-lines, and traits, we could definitely stand to loose quality individuals and diverse blood-lines that are important to the integrity of the breed. Because we do not have a mandatory system, there are individual stallions of high-quality, and sometimes rare genetics, that have not been through the system and can therefore be overlooked. However, where I disagree is that the evaluation system is hampering genetic quality and diversity. The eval system IS a tool, but it is up to the individual to use, or not use, the information provided, just like with everything else. Honestly, every quality horse from every type, style, blood-line and breeding program has a chance to do well in our eval system. Only ones with serious faults are given yellow ribbons (which technically signify horses that are not of breeding quality), and who wants to breed to a horse with serious faults? Again, where I agree is that if everyone only looks for the "best" stallion out there, we will be short on genetics, but again, that is the people being ignorant about the system and not a failing of the system itself. Breeding a blue ribbon to a blue ribbon DOES NOT guarantee a blue ribbon horse! This summer I brought 4 colts for the evaluators to comment upon. I can laughingly report that the one who did the best was not out of my highest evaluated mare! Actually, it was out of my lowest evaluated mare. BUT, the cross between her and the stallion (who is, yes, a blue ribbon individual), was phenomenal. However, the evaluators were correct in her failings and his strengths and what seemed like a good idea "on paper" actually was a great idea in reality. I'm not always in agreement with the evaluators, of any system (and yes, I've studied almost all of the Fjord evaluation systems in the world). And yes, I sometimes feel that certain things are overlooked, that things like offspring, producing power, varied genetics, and certain traits could be lost if we only relied on a few people to make our ultimate breeding decisions. But, that is where breeders need to be breeders and do the research, homework, and learn how to evaluate their own stock. The evaluation process is just one source for finding out things about breeding horses - it is, in my opinion, always good to have more information. Solveig Watanabe Olivia Farm http://www.oliviafarm.com/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Libby Evaluation Deadline
This message is from: mabo...@aol.com I'm writing in support of Barb Lynch's post about entering the Libby Evaluation. As a member of the Evaluation Committee and the co-organizer of the NFHR Virginia Evaluation, it is my sincere hope that Libby happens in 2013. I definitely appreciate the challenges in getting a critical mass of horses together for an Evaluation; several years ago I entered a 28 year old mare in conformation and performance tests to help make our numbers. The mare did fantastically well, but I digress. It really takes a village approach to hold an evaluation. I would encourage everyone to look at the Family Fjord tests. The Evaluation Committee has designed them to be welcoming for Fjord owners who primarily use their horse for recreational activities. The riding test is walk-trot only and involves simple obstacles. The foundation test involves leading your horse through some exercises. This test is great for young, unstarted horses as is the ground driving test. The driving test also is simple and designed for the new driver or new driving horse. I have entered two of my unstarted youngsters in the foundation test at the upcoming Virginia Evaluation and welcome the chance to earn a medallion of quality. So please, consider giving entering Libby for your horse, yourself, your fellow Fjord owners, and the NFHR. We have a very special breed and we need to support it. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA ***22 days until the NFHR Virginia Evaluation, Frying Pan Park, Herndon, VA. Open to the public. Come join us!* Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fw: NFHR Libby Evaluation - Entry Deadline Extended!
This message is from: "Barb and Fred"
I don't know if there are people out there who have not received this or not.
But we did have a comment from someone that they did not know about the Fjord
Affair and would have entered if they had. I wanted anyone who can to see
this.
The Evaluation in Libby needs a few more horses to go ahead. The deadline has
been extended. Please, please, if you have ever considered having a horse
evaluated, consider this one. We have not had one in quite a few years here
in the NW. And it may be many more years before another is offered. This in
not just for breeding stock! Consider entering the Family Fjord tests.
Thanks all,
Barb Lynch
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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:20 AM
Subject: NFHR Libby Evaluation - Entry Deadline Extended!
NFHR Libby Evaluation Entry Deadline Extended!
July 18. 2013
We Need YOUR Help!
A big word of thanks to the NFHR Members who entered the
NFHR Evaluation at Libby. We have a solid base of entries, but we still need
a few more entries to hold the Evaluation. We need more support from NFHR
members in the region to make this Evaluation happen!
An NFHR Evaluation is the premier educational event we
offer. It is designed to provide feedback to owners about their horses and
recognize accomplishments through the awarding of medallions of quality. It
is not a horse show, but a measurement against a standard where every horse is
judged on its own merits. Moreover, it is a positive fun experience aimed at
educating and encouraging Fjord owners.
Entry forms and information are on the NFHR web site. The
NFHR has agreed to extend the entry deadline to August 19, 2013 without
charging any late entry fee. If you have questions about the NFHR Evaluation
at Libby, please contact the NFHR office.
NFHR Evaluation is scheduled to be held on September 11 -
12, 2013 at J. Neils Memorial Park, Libby, MT. Conformation and performance
tests at all levels will be offered. The Evaluation immediately precedes the
Libby International Fjord Show held from September 13 - 15, 2013 at the same
location. If you are coming to the Libby show, please consider coming a bit
earlier to participate in the Evaluation. We only need a few more horses to
enter.
New Family Fjord Tests
The NFHR Board of Directors recently approved the final two
Family Fjord Tests for riding and driving. These tests, along with the
in-hand and ground driving tests were designed for young horses as well as for
NFHR members who wanted tests related to the more recreational activities we
do with our horses. These tests can be done by one or more people, can
include coaching, and are focus on basic skills. They will be available at
Libby.
The new tests can be found on the NFHR website's evaluation
page. They also are incorporated in Section IV of the Evaluation Handbook.
The NFHR presents bronze medallions of quality awards for the Family Fjord
Tests.
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NHFR Evaluation and Mid Atlantic Small Draft Horse Festival
This message is from: mabo...@aol.com Greetings to the List, Virginia is preparing for a week of Fjord activity. On 7/14, we are having an NFHR Evaluation with horses doing conformation, English riding, driving, draft and Family Fjord tests. Beth Beymer and Pat Wolfe are our evaluators this year and we look forward to an educational experience. This event is open to the public and anyone interested in the breed is welcome to attend. We have exhibitors from PA, NJ, MD, WV, VA and NC this year. We have a day off on 7/15, but it's only time to prepare for the Mid Atlantic Small Draft Horse Festival which features Fjords (of course), Gypsies, Haflingers, Dales, Fells, Drums and other small draft breeds in conformation, riding, driving, draft and games classes. Show dates are 7/16 - 17. More information can be found at www.masdhf.com. Come join as a competitor or as a spectator. The Evaluation and Show are being held at Frying Pan Park, Herndon, VA. This is a suburb of Washington, DC and we get tremendous public foot traffic at this facility. Many spectators will see a Fjord for the first time this week and we hope to convert a few into Fjord fans and future owners. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm www.ironwood-farm.com . Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjord Evaluation and Show in Virginia
This message is from: mabo...@aol.com Greetings to the List, I'm happy to confirm that there will be a one-day Evaluation on 7/14 at Frying Pan Park in Herndon, VA. We have participants coming from NJ, PA, WV, MD, VA, NC and DC. We'll be doing conformation as well as performance tests (every discipline except Western riding). As so many of you know, Evaluations are open to the public and are a terrific educational experience. Please let me know if you want further information on the NFHR Virginia Evaluation. We hope to see many Fjord owners and fans there. After the Evaluation we are holding the Mid Atlantic Small Draft Horse Festival (http://www.masdhf.com) at Frying Pan Park on 7/16-17. Unlike the Midwest, we don't have nearly the number of Fjords to support a breed show. I wish, but we are not there yet. We tried for a few years and decided we would expand to include Gypsies, Haflingers, Drum, Fell, Dale and other small draft breeds. It goes without saying that Fjords will be well represented. I am expecting that the Fjords will do very well, too. If you are interested in coming, with or without a horse, just go to our web site for information or send me an email. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA ***We have some very nice Fjords for sale (our own or consignments) at all skill levels from young stock to experienced dressage and eventing horses. Go to www.ironwood-farm.com for more information. All the riding horses will be at the Evaluation or show.*** Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Reminder -- Evaluation Entry Deadlines are June 1st
This message is from: mabo...@aol.com This is just a reminder to everyone considering entering an NFHR Evaluation that the date for postmarked entries is June 1, 2011. With a long holiday weekend ahead of us, it's easy to miss deadlines. While you can enter after June 1, there is a $25 late fee charge. The entry packets and Evaluation Handbook is on the the NFHR web site. I know that Sophie posts here and she'll correct anything I say that is wrong. The Midwest evaluation will be held on July 19th following the Upper Midwest Fjord Breed Show (http://www.mwfhc.org/Events.htm) on July 16 - 18 at the Iowa Equestrian Center in Cedar Rapids. This is a one-day Evaluation with limited space. I understand it is filling up, so get those entries in if you want to participate. The Virginia Evaluation will be in our usual spot in Herndon, VA at Frying Pan Park. We're holding a 2 day Evaluation on July 14 - 15 to be followed by the Mid-Atlantic Small Draft Horse Festival (http://www.masdhf.com) on July 16 - 17. I always feel like I am speaking to the converted on this List, but it is important to support and attend Evaluations. It's a great way to learn about our marvelous breed. If you are new to evaluations and want more information, please contact the host committees for assistance. I know that Sophie, Samantha, Curt and I have walked many a first timer through an Evaluation. The one great thing about Fjords owners is that we'll help each other, so that when you are at an Evaluation, there is lots of assistance aimed toward getting the best out of your Fjord that day. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Midwest NFHR Evaluation
This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" Attend Our 2011 MIDWEST NFHR EVALUATION On July 19, 2011, a one day NFHR Evaluation will be held following the MWFHC Show at the Iowa Equestrian Center in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. It will be limited to 20 horses and a $50 deposit will be required to reserve your spot. Conformation tests will start Tuesday, July 19th at 8:00am following a question and answer session at 7:45am. Tentative schedule: Young stock will be first, followed by geldings, stallions and then mares. Performance tests will start as soon as the conformation tests are completed. Probable order: riding, driving, and draft. A final schedule and exhibitor packet will be emailed to all participants after entries close. If you have scheduling needs or questions, please contact Sophie Fiedler. For an entry form and Evaluation packet, please go to www.nfhr.com and click on Evaluation Program or Calendar of Events. Also don't forget about the MWFHC Show on July 16-18, 2011 at the same venue. More information on the show can be found on www.mwfhc.org NFHR Evaluations are open to the public and are our premiere educational events. Evaluations are an excellent way to learn about our breed. Whether you wish to participate with your Fjord or simply observe the process, you are encouraged to attend. Sincerely, Sophie Fiedler & Samantha Poirier NFHR Evaluation Hosts sop...@greenvalleyfarm.com 815-777-6008 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Greeley Evaluation and RMFHC show
This message is from: Starfire Farm Well, it seems like this past week has been a busy time for Fjord horse enthusiasts. The Rocky Mountain Fjord Horse Club just completed our NFHR Evaluation for 2010 as well as the first RMFHC show. Our club had to overcome a couple of serious problems to pull this off, so I would like to thank EVERYONE involved, from the organizers to participants. Due to unforeseen circumstances, we had an evaluator substitute at the last minute, with the need to move the dates forward by one day to accommodate Wayne Hipsley's schedule to allow him to to fill the vacant evaluator spot. Brain Jensen was able to change his schedule to meet our needs. To further accommodate the schedule change and help out with participants' work schedules, seven horses were evaluated in conformation at Starfire Farm on Wednesday evening, July 21st. The remainder of the evaluation and show was held at Tomora Training Center in Greeley, CO. Thursday morning began with a bang...literally. While turning in to the driveway at Tomora, Nancy Newport's horse trailer was sideswiped/rear-ended by a reckless driver. They guys' car had rolled over at least 1 1/2 times and looked like a crushed can. Debris was all over the highway. The driver had somehow survived the crash and was sitting near the wreckage of his car, attended by and talking with a passer-by (who just happened to be a nurse). Nancy was okay. The horses, thank goodness, were standing quietly in Nancy's two horse trailer, but the tires on the right side were blown out and the right fender was destroyed. Evaluators Wayne Hipsley and Brian Jensen drove in to find this scene. Brian, Nancy and I got the horses out of the trailer and someone walked them to a stall. They had no outward cuts or bruises, but after the Sheriff's investigation and the mess was cleaned up, the horses were not able to trot properly. A vet was called and the horses were given pain and anti inflammatory medication. Unfortunately, they were not able to participate in the evaluation. I hear they are doing okay now. We had some great help to pull off this evaluation. Laura Beller, fairly new to Fjords, spearheaded the organizing, paperwork, kept us on our toes as far as deadlines go and kept things moving along. She brought munchies, tablecloths and things that others might have overlooked. Thanks Laura! Jeanne Poirier was our Technical Delegate. Samantha Poirier was our Eval Secretary. She, along with Gary Holland and Tom Poirier, were also a great help setting up the Advanced Utility Riding course and the Draft course and schlepping things wherever they needed to be schlepped. Anne Arling made some spectacular food for the Wednesday evening portion of the eval! We had a barbeque on Thursday evening with food brought by Laura Beller (and including Anne's delicious leftovers). As usual, during the evaluation, Wayne Hipsley and Brian Jensen provided educational commentary regarding horses' conformation and performance tests. Wayne was impressed with the overall improvement of the quality in the horses compared to our evaluation in 2007. In addition to our local members' participation, we had horses from Colorado Springs, Grand Junction, from Divide, Avon and New Mexico. 25 in all were entered. The evaluation ended Friday late morning, as Wayne had to catch a plane to judge his next show. For an afternoon program, I gave a demonstration about the Baroque Classical dressage training I have been doing with BDF Obelisk, followed by Brian giving a mini clinic on driving. Much appreciated by all attendees. Saturday morning began our show. The first held for the Rocky Mountain Fjord Horse Club. Anne Arling spearheaded running the show. Brian Jensen judged halter, riding, driving and games. I judged the dressage classes. There were lots of smiles,lots of laughter, lots of camaraderie. It was a casual and fun time. Jeanne Poirier and Hanne won the Versatillity Award. Victoria Arling and Greenbriar Cezar won the Youth High Point. Jeanne Poirier also won the Adult High Point. Anna Poirier won the Fabulous Fjord Follies, which (for THIS show was: a "barricade" made up of bales of shavings and a dummy was on one side. The rider had to ride up, dismount, hop over the barricade, put a lariat over the dummy, mount up, ride enough to pull the dummy over the barricade, which pulled some of the bales over, then, dismount, take the lariat off and put the dummy over the horse and run back to the start/finish. For those people, they just had them not mount, to pull the dummy over the barricade. Fun and laughs during THAT one! Wendy Kipple was our eval and show photographer. From me, thanks to Christi Kipple for showing LTW Zeus in his first show. Thanks to everyone who stayed to help clean up. Gary Holland, Sam Poirier, Tom Poirier, Linnea Carlson, Beth German and her friend
Greeley Evaluation and Show
This message is from: Starfire Farm Hello Everyone, We have recently learned that our Evaluation has been approved! So, those of you who were sitting on the fence, it's a go, so come join us. As for our one-day show (the Sunday following the evaluation) it has been brought to our attention that our list of classes might be confusing regarding the order of go. The list is NOT indicative of the order of go of the classes. It is ONLY indicative of the classes we plan to offer, so those of you who think there won't be time for tack changes, etc. We WILL have time! We will MAKE time where necessary. We will try to have a prize list with the appropriate order of go up on the Rocky Mountain Fjord Club website by the end of next week. The main focus is that we all want to have FUN at this show, so come join in the fun! Beth Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Evaluation Clinic
This message is from: Starfire Farm In preparation for the success of its participants in the NFHR Evaluation, to be held in Greeley, Colorado this July 23/24, the Rocky Mountian Fjord Horse Club held the first of two Pre-Evaluation clinics at Starfire Farm on May 22nd. Participants learned about the history of the NFHR evaluations, as well as about evaluations for Fjord horses around the world. Videos of conformation and performance tests were shown, along with discussion about the meaning of the scores and comments, and grooming and handling tips. After that, particpants were able to try their hand at presenting horses on the triangle, using techniques to show their horse to its greatest advantage. After the in-hand work, folks had an opportunity to try any performance test that they would like to learn more about or work on a particular skill. Interestingly enough, most chose to work on the Draft test. A couple of folks also worked on the Driving test. The second of these clinics will again be held at Starfire Farm on Sunday, June 20. We will follow the same format, though perhaps focusing more on tuning up the performance tests. Anyone interested in learning more about evaluations, or interesting in obtaining feedback about how to better their performance tests, is welcome to attend. More information about the clinic can be found at http://www.flyingpig-farm.com/RMFHC/clinics.php THE DEADLINE FOR ENTERING THE GREELEY EVALUATION IS JUNE 10 (however, you can pay an extra $25.00 and still enter after the deadline). So get your entries in! http://www.flyingpig-farm.com/RMFHC/eval.php The Club is also holding its first show the Sunday following the evaluations. If you are planning to attend, do let us know what kind of classes you would like to participate in. This is YOUR show and we want to have some FUN! Take care and we'll look forward to hearing from you, Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjord Horse Evaluation Changes
This message is from: "Curtis Pierce" Hi, The NFHR and CFHA Evaluation Committees have been working on a new set of tests called the Family Fjord tests. The first two Family Fjord tests will be offered at the evaluations staring this year. These test are called the Foundation (Basic) and Ground Driving. Next year we hope to add Family Fjord tests for riding and driving. The Foundation and Ground Driving tests will be offered to all Fjords that are 2 years old and older. The new tests are included in the revised handbook section IV, and the awards are included in sections I & II. These revised versions and the entry packages for Greeley and Calgary evaluations are now posted on the NFHR website at http://www.nfhr.com/catalog/index.php?eval=1. If the entry form does not have the Family Fjord tests on the form, just write it in. The costs are the same as the performance test. The purpose of the Family Fjord tests is to establish benchmarks in training and to assess the ability of the horse to be a calm, willing, and obedient partner in accomplishing basic activities that would be useful on a trail ride, driving outing or a draft situation away from home. Assessment will be facilitated through tests requiring basic levels of performance, the successful completion of which will require both a good basic foundation of training and good working relationship between the horse and his handler. This is a foundation that can serve a horse and its partners well, whether in a family/casual use situation, or at higher levels of performance. The skills needed for these activities are basic horsemanship skills that transfer to other performance activities. Since these tests are intended to evaluate the performance and abilities of the horse alone, coaching of the handler by another person during a test is permitted. While it is encouraged for evaluators to provide feedback on the effect of the handler on the horse, the evaluators will separate this effect from the horse's scores as much as possible. Another person may coach the handler, but points will be lost if this person handles or restrains the horse. Completion of the Family Fjord tests and an acceptable conformation/movement score will qualify a Fjord for a Bronze medallion. As with the other evaluation tests, a Fjord may complete all the Family Fjord tests at one or several evaluations. The evaluation committees feel that the Family Fjord tests are a great addition to the evaluation programs. Although these are not easy tests, we think you will find the tests very useful and fun to train and perform. If you have any questions or comments, you can contact Phil Odden at n...@norskwoodworks.com, or myself at c...@nfhr.com. Take care! Curt Pierce Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Moses Lake Evaluation and show
This message is from: "Gayle Ware" Hi Everyone, Finally have gotten unpacked from our trip to the Moses Lake show and wanted to take time to jot a few lines about the show. It was GOOD! As always - hats off to the volunteers who made it all possible. What a super crew. Wed. morning began with a clinic by Wayne and Beth to put folks' nerves at ease and to, once again, give us the opportunity to learn. I, personally, always appreciate the chance to glean valuable information. I brought 5 horses from my barn, Dusty, Johan, Dustenai (owned by Mary Johnson), Brijten (owned by Deanna Haugen) and Johan's Smoky Topas (also owned by Mary Johnson). I was accompanied by Mary, Deanna and our 'horse show mommy', Sheri Vance. Sheri boards her Arab in my barn, but loves to travel with us as our GOFER and is invaluable help. Wed. Mary presented Dustenai for Conformation in the Evaluation. We were thrilled when Dustenai received her BLUE. Many of you may remember, Dustenai had belonged to Patty Peterson before Patty passed away a few years ago. Mary worked very hard preparing Dustenai for this Evaluation and we were quite sure that Patty was smiling down from above this week! Especially since Mary & Dustenai went on to receive their Silver Medallions for Intro. Western as well as their Silver Medallion for Intro. Driving with a score of 94!! Needless to say, I was so proud of my 'kids'! Mary's gray filly, Johan's Smoky Topas (can you GUESS who is her daddy?), is only 3 and I had put 90 day's training on her prior to the show. This was her debut Fjord show and we wanted it to be a low key, good learning experience for her. HOLY COW, I could not have asked for anything better from this filly. What an angel. She was pretty wide-eyed at all of the doings and commotion, but stayed tuned to me and took it all in stride, even when there were some scarey happenings such as the photographer accidently knocking over a chair right beside her and another horse blowing up right behind her in the Walk-Trot class. There were only 3 halter classes, Stallions, Mares & Geldings all ages. Since Topas is only 3, I had told Mary not to expect to win in the mares class since Topas is still a 'work in progress' and there were plenty of very nice mature mares. HOLY COW again! Topas won!!! I about cried down both legs! LOL!! I rode Topas in a Walk-Trot class. I thought that was as much as we should require of her for this first time out. She behaved so well and placed second in that class. What a good girl she was. I also showed Johan in the Stallion's Halter class. He won!! I have shown him 3 times in halter, once in Turlock, CA., once in Libby and this time. He has won everytime out and took Grand Champion Stallion at both Turlock and Libby. To me, this guy is 'eye candy', very dark gray and a head that is simply stunning. I'm not prejudiced or anything??!! LOL! I rode Johan in his first ever Senior Western Pleasure Class and he WON!! Another HOLY COW!! This was the first ever Fjord show for Deanna and Brijten. They both had some butterflies, but worked hard the entire week to get through their 'stage fright'. We've all 'been there - done that'! They were courageous and pushed past it all and I was, again, proud of my 'kids'. And then there was Dusty. I had been asked to do our Freestyle Reining demo with him. He is now 23 years young - THE proverbial energizer bunny! I decided that it would be fitting to dedicate this performance to his sire, Anvil's Pluto, who passed away in June. We did it in conjunction with the Stallion Review since every horse that came with us on this trip was from his seed. Dustenai is a direct daughter. Brijten and Johan are both grandsons and Topas is a great grand daughter to Dusty. The real PROOF of a stallion is in his ability to sire good offspring. I thought it would be quite fitting to bring in this cross section of what Dusty has produced. I came in first and then the other 4 followed. They lined up head-to-tail in front of the audience and then Dusty & I turned to face them. It was pretty cool and I had goose bumps looking at 'my family'. The other 4 then left the arena and Dusty and I did our Freestyle demo. There were several video cameras going and Dan Watanabe said that he would try to edit them together and come up with a good copy. Speaking of the Stallion Review, none of us presenting stallions had any idea what the others had planned, but it actually seemed as though it had been intentionally choreographed! We did the Freestyle Reining, one was ridden bridleless, one was driven hitched in harness, one was ground driven in long lines and some were shown in hand. A nice display of very different things. I was asked to carry the Ameri
Virginia NFHR Evaluation and Fjord Fjestival
This message is from: mabo...@aol.com This is just a reminder to all Fjord owners and admirers that the Virginia NFHR Evaluation is this week.? We have 23 horses doing 49 tests. Location:? Frying Pan Park, Herndon, VA? Friday, August 14 - Conformation 9 - 3; Draft Performance 4 - 6 Saturday, August 15 - Driving Performance 9 - 12; Riding Performance 1 - 4 Evaluators are Wayne Hipsley and Karen Maas.? Expect to get a great education on the breed in the process of watching the Evaluation. Sunday, August 16 - The Virginia Fjord Fjestival Horse Show Conformation, Riding, Driving and Games; 9 - 4 Sales horses from various owners and breeders will be available to try at the Evaluation and Show.? This is a great venue for seeing sales horses and networking with owners/breeders. Contact me if you need more information. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm http://www.ironwood-farm.com ? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
LaCrosse Evaluation - CHANGE OF LOCATION
This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" The location of the La Crosse Evaluation to be held Aug.1st and 2nd has been changed. For directions and schedule of events, please contact Sophie Fiedler. sop...@greenvalleyfarm.com 815-777-6008 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Moses Lake evaluation
This message is from: hoofe...@comcast.net Just a reminder, this is the last week to register for the Moses Lake Evaluation. The evaluation is August 26-27 with a free clinic Wednesday morning the 26th with Wayne Hipsley: the topic of the clinic is "Presenting your horse in hand" and you need to have your registrations in to Mike's office before July 4th... Looking forward to seeing many of you there and being able to put faces with names... DAVID & CONNIE VANHOOF FUNSHINE FARM FJORDS 9609 254TH AVE E. BUCKLEY, WA 98321 253-335-8829 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fallbrook CA Evaluation Deadline
This message is from: reviv...@thegrid.net Hi folks, Just a rememder that the deadline for mailing in your entry to the Fallbrook Evaluation is fast approaching. Entries must be postmarked no later than July 3rd. Entry forms may be downloaded from the www.nfhr.com website. For more info contact Jayne Woellhof-Olson at 760-731-3268,760 685-6635 or mbffjo...@gmail.com Karen Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
La Crosse Evaluation 8-1 and 2-2009
This message is from: Linda Syverson Kerr This is email is sent from Linda Syverson Kerr from syversonsfjordl...@yahoo.com Hello Group.. This is a reminder that the La Crosse Evaluation will occur, it is scheduled for 8-1/2-2009Please get your entries sent into Mike May...and if you have not already signed that horse(s) up for the Versatility Awards Program then please do, as the application is due 30 days prior to the event. The evaluations are a great way to earn the Versatility Award. Any questions please email me at syversonsfjordl...@ahoo.com.. Look forward to seeing you in La Crosse Linda Syverson Kerr Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Evaluation in Moses Lake, WA
This message is from: hoofe...@comcast.net Hi everybody, Want to remind everyone of the NFHR's Evaluation being held in Moses Lake, WA on August 26-27, Wednesday and Thursday just before the 3rd annual NW Fjord show August 28-30. Both will be held at the Grant County Fair Grounds in Moses Lake. Many of you will have already received evaluation registration letters or emails with the registration forms attached so you should know that the deadline to have your registration forms in is July 4th. If you have any question email me privately and I'll help you in any way I can. This email is to let all of you know that there will be a free clinic Wednesday morning prior to the binging of the evals by Wayne Hipsley . The clinic will be 1 1/2 hours long and will be on "Presenting Your Horse in Hand". If you've not heard or seen Wayne you're in for a real treat...if you have seen or heard Wayne before you'll definitely want to mark August 26, 8 am on your calendar...see you all there. DAVID & CONNIE VANHOOF FUNSHINE FARM FJORDS 9609 254TH AVE E. BUCKLEY, WA 98321 253-335-8829 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Evaluation Season..Thank you Phillip
This message is from: whup...@aol.com Hello All Phillip loved your post. Thank you. It is not to late to sign up for an eval!. I just pulled out an old Evaluation sheet out of my stack of paper work...NO it is just not legs. Horses are evaluated on BREED TYPE, HEAD, NECK, BODY, FORELEGS, HINDLEGS, MOVE/WALK, MOVE/TROT, OVERALL. These scores are important to anybody who may want to breed our loved Fjords. If your horse is weak in one area you can breed to a horse strong in that area. I will be bring at least 7 to our evaluation in Fallbrook, CA. All colors will be there. I hope everyone gets their horse evaluated. This program is helpful to keep our breed strong! If you even think you want to breed get your horse evaluated. This will help you when you decided who to breed to., Keep on fjordingLove this breed!.Lets keep it strong! Kathy West Coast Fjords Katherine Kramer 23355 Modoc Ct. Perris, CA 92705 phone (951) 657-2566 cell (951) 316-6616 **Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0004) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Evaluation Season
This message is from: Cherrie Nolden The Evaluations are free to attend without a horse, other than costs of travel and lodging. You will see the various leg problems (and other structural defects), and the evaluators will teach you how to recognize the problems if you don't already know how. I have yet to attend an Evaluation with a horse, but I cannot tell you how much I have learned, and applied to my breeding program, as a result of attending these events. Well worth the time and travel costs. Wayne Hipsley is incredible! The following link has drawings of the most serious leg faults: http://www.nfhr.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=117 Look at the evaluation scores of the evaluated Fjords to see those with low-scoring legs. The info is publicly available on each pedigree page, but as of yet we cannot search the NFHR site for the list of evaluated Fjords. You can order a hard copy of the evaluated horses and use that to search the online pedigrees. Cherrie Nolden 1dr Fjords --- On Wed, 6/10/09, ruth bushnell wrote: > I wonder if you might kindly elaborate on those Fjords that > have > "poor" legs--are there very many? (Pandemic?) Are there > statistics > on how many "poor" legs the evaluation system has > discovered > to date? Maybe give those of us, who either can't afford > to > go or those who might consider evaluations superfluous, > some clue > as to what has gone wrong with the legs. > > Information that vital should be disseminated to every > Fjord owner, not just to those who may show up. > > Ruthie, nw mt US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Evaluation Season
This message is from: "Beth Pulsifer" No matter what breed we are talking about , I think that there is always the chance somewhere of leg faults cropping up even with our Fjords. So it is wise for folks to be taught what to look for in leg problems so that they CAN be prevented and keep our horses as problem free as possible.. I've yet to see the PERFECT horse... Fjords are very close though!:) Beth ->> >> FJORD horses with "poor" legs which could lead to "severe" leg problems? Sounds alarming! I would have thought that if any horse breed on the face of the earth had sound legs, it is the Fjord. I have never seen horse legs anywhere, on any other breed, that appear to be as substantial as the Fjord's, so this leg aspersion FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f 05:52:00 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Evaluation Season
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" people who are new to horses. If they do not recognize the problems horses have with legs and continue to breed horses with poor legs to other horses with poor legs in a short time our Fjord horses will have severe leg problems. Phillip Odden >> FJORD horses with "poor" legs which could lead to "severe" leg problems? Sounds alarming! I would have thought that if any horse breed on the face of the earth had sound legs, it is the Fjord. I have never seen horse legs anywhere, on any other breed, that appear to be as substantial as the Fjord's, so this leg aspersion surprises me. I wonder if you might kindly elaborate on those Fjords that have "poor" legs--are there very many? (Pandemic?) Are there statistics on how many "poor" legs the evaluation system has discovered to date? Maybe give those of us, who either can't afford to go or those who might consider evaluations superfluous, some clue as to what has gone wrong with the legs. Information that vital should be disseminated to every Fjord owner, not just to those who may show up. Ruthie, nw mt US Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Evaluation Season
This message is from: PHILLIP Odden This message is from Phillip Odden of Barronett, Wisconsin where it has been a very dry spring but fewer mosquitos. Entry forms for four NFHR evaluations are currently posted on the NFHR website. Look under the heading 'evaluation program ' on the home page. At this time the forms for Fallbrook California July 25 & 26 with an entry form closing date of July 3 is ready. La Crosse Wisconsin August 1&2 with an entry closing date of July 14. Herndon Virginia August 14 &15 with a closing date of June 15. Moses Lake August 26 & 27 with an entry closing date of July 4 Look for information on other possible evaluations as decisions are made. The NFHR evaluation program is the envy of several other registries in the US. This past year I spoke with people from the Gypsy Vanner registry. They were aware of our evaluation program and they wanted information on how to get their own program started. They needed to assemble a set of breed standards then create a program to evaluate their horses. They needed to certify a group of judges who were able to evaluate their horses with respect to the breed standards for conformation. Since temperament can only be judged when you ask the horse to do something, the registry would need to create some meaningful tests for the horses to do. The NFHR has a good evaluation program in place. This service allows our members to learn more about their horses such as how they stack up against the Breed Standard. An important aspect of the breed standard that is common to all horses has to do with leg quality. If your horse has bad legs or hooves you don't have much of a horse because their ability to move and move under load is severely compromised with poor leg quality. Our Fjord horse seems to attract people who are new to horses. If they do not recognize the problems horses have with legs and continue to breed horses with poor legs to other horses with poor legs in a short time our Fjord horses will have severe leg problems. This will cause our horses to diminish in value and it will lead to lots of expenses for people who own Fjords. Bad legs in horses is a hugh liability. Our NFHR evaluation system is designed to educate owners about the quality of their horses including leg quality. An evaluation is quite expensive to hold. Transportation costs, facility fees, lodging and meal expenses add up pretty quickly. In order to hold an evaluation there needs to be enough horses and enough conformation and performance tests to create the revenue to pay the expenses. Please consider having your horses evaluated. An NFHR evaluation is a wonderful opportunity to learn more about your horse. None of them are perfect. Hopefully with the information you receive from our evaluators you can make a more informed decision when buying a Fjord horse or when breeding your horses. To those of you who are taking horses to the evaluations this summer, Thank You for supporting our evaluation system. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
LA CROSSE EVALUATION 7-31 to 8-2-09
This message is from: Linda Syverson Kerr This email is from Linda Syverson Kerr @ syversonsfjordl...@yahoo.com Hello Group. I am sending this in response to inquires made about the La Crosse Evaluation. YES, it will happen. The paperwork is available via email by emailing me, it will be up on the NFHR web site as well. MARK your calendar 7-31-09 till 8-2-09. The order of go has not been determined yet, we should be able to figure this out 1- 2 weeks prior and notice will be sent out to those participating. Again, any questions or request for the paperwork, before it is sent vial snail mail and email let me know. Linda Syverson Kerr Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
2009 Herndon Evaluation and Virginia Fjord Fjestival
This message is from: mabo...@aol.com This is just a heads up to the List that the evaluation entry materials have been mailed for the 2009 Herndon Evaluation.? We are returning to Frying Pan Park in Herndon, VA (about 25 miles outside Washington, DC) for an evaluation on August 14 and 15.? Then on Sunday, August 16, we are holding the 2nd Annual Virginia Fjord Fjestival Horse Show. Evaluation information is available on http://www.nfhr.com??and Virginia Fjord Fjestival information is available on http://www.ironwood-farm.com The deadline for the Evaluation entries is JUNE 15th.? For anyone proximate to Virginia, we will be holding an Evaluation Prep clinic for the conformation and English riding tests at Ironwood Farm on June 6.? Curt Pierce will be the clinician.? Contact me if you are interested in coming with a horse or as an auditor. As someone who has been involved in organized and attended a half dozen Evaluations, I've found it to be a tremendous learning and networking experience.? I encourage List members to support their region's evaluation by entering horses or by simply attending.? In addition to Herndon, VA evaluations are planned to Fallbrook,?CA, LaCrosse, WI, Moses Lake, WA, Antigonish, NS and Lanark, ON. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA ***Fjords for sale:??'98 Brown Dun Mare,?'03 Brown Dun Gelding, '04 Brown Dun Gelding, '06 Brown Dun?Mare, '08 Brown Dun?Gelding, '08 White Dun Colt, and '09 Red Dun Colt.?? Details on?http://www.ironwood-farm.com ***??? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
California evaluation practice postponed
This message is from: reviv...@thegrid.net Hi everybody, Well, the bad news is a storm is forcast to come through Aguanga this weekend, so the evaluation practice has been postponed. The good news is maybe some of the folks who couldn't make it this Saturday, May 2 because of injuries or other committments will be able to make it later. Hank and Bitten will be announcing soon when the practice will be scheduled. Sorry everyone for the inconvenience. If you have any questions, please call Bitten at 951-852-8841. Karen Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
California practice clinic for evaluation this Saturday, May 2
This message is from: "Dudley Haines" Hi all, Just a reminder about the practice clinic for the California evaluation this coming Saturday, May 2nd. it starts at 9:30 a.m. at Bitten and Hank Nors place in Aguanga. If you are bringing horses and want to arrive Friday, you are welcome to do so. Please call Bitten at 951-852-8841 if you will be attending. She and Hank plan to go to town Thursday to do the food shopping for the clinic, so please call by Wednesday evening so they can plan their shopping list. There will be a potluck for lunch, so let Bitten also know what you would like to bring. The directions to Nors Ranch: >From I-15: On the south edge of Temecula, take Hwy 79 South to Indio (not to Hemet - this will get you lost) continue to Hwy 371 (approx 5 or 6 miles) continue to Bradford - turn right pass the Cowboy Country trailer park hang a sharp right at Tully Valley a bit after the pavement ends, turn left on Tully Peak Rd continue to Gold Rush - turn right this will take you right into Nors Ranch. Signs will be posted starting at Bradford, so just follow the signs. Hope to see a lot of you there! Karen Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
California Evaluation
This message is from: whup...@aol.com Hello all Plan your vacation now and get your horse evaluated. Disneyland, Knottsberry Farm and Seaworld are approximately 1 hour away. Casino's and hotels just down the street. If you want to camp bathroom and showers on site. Some electric hookups (First come first serve basis) Lots of room to park Evaluation information so far is tentatively July 25 and 26, 2009. Held at Fallbrook Rider's Field, Fallbrook, Ca. First day Conformation and Movement, and the second day will be Performance. You can move horses in on the 24th. Contact Jayne Woellhof-Olson evaluation coordinator at 760-685-6635 or email her _mbffjo...@gmail.com_ (mailto:mbffjo...@gmail.com) I can't wait to see all of you and meet all the people I talk to through the years. This should be a really fun event. Kathy West Coast Fjords Katherine Kramer 23355 Modoc Ct. Perris, CA 92705 phone (951) 657-2566 ll (951) 316-6616 **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
La Crosse Evaluation
This message is from: Linda Syverson Kerr This email is posted by Linda Syverson Kerr @ syversonsfjordl...@yahoo.com Hello Everyone.. Spring will soon be here right! I hope so, already getting my horse show schedule and clinics on the calendar. That is the purpose of this email. I am trying to inform all those interested that we are looking to have an NFHR sponsored evaluation to be held in West Salem, WI @ the La Crosse County Fairgrounds. The dates for this event are Friday, August 21 till August 23, 2009. I am asking anyone who is thinking they might attend with a horse or two, to please email me @ syversonsfjordl...@yahoo.com. I ask that you please provide me with the # of horse(s) that you might bring, and if you are looking to do (number of confirmation, performance tests, young stock). While we understand that August is a long way off, in order for us to book the fairgrounds, we need an understanding of how many horses and tests we can expect. If we are not able to hold at the Fairgrounds, we do have a alternative site that can only host up to 10-12 horses. Therefore, if we go to an alternate site, it will be first come bases. So please as the site host, I ask to please let me know you interest so I can pass on the evaluation committee. I know some have already made contact with me, and I thank you for that. If anyone has any questions please contact me again at syversonsfjordl...@yahoo.com or my cell 608-780-4431. Linda Syverson Kerr Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fallbrook, CA Evaluation in July
This message is from: reviv...@thegrid.net Hi everyone, Vestlandshest has been given the go ahead by the NFHR to proceed with plans for an evaluation in Fallbrook, CA (north San Diego County.) The two days of the evaluation are tentatively scheduled for July 23, 24, 25 or 26. Conformation and performance tests will be done. Additionally, Vestlandshest will hold a pre-evaluation practice clinic on Saturday, May 2, 2009 in Aguanga, CA. Contact Evaluation Coordinator, Jayne Woellhof-Olson at 760 731-3268, mbffjo...@gmail.com or 1020 N. Stage Coach Lane, Fallbrook, CA 92028 to reserve space for your horses, to volunteer or for more information. We still haven't met the minimum number of horses needed to proceed. The opportunity to evaluate horses in southern California is only available every few years due to a lower Fjord population than in some parts of the country. So if you are interested in having your horses evaluated, please contact Jayne as soon as possible. Thanks! Karen Haines Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
NFHR evaluation August 2009
This message is from: hoofe...@comcast.net Hello list, Hope your winter is soon coming to an end and that your spring will  be rich with new foals, laughter & good times. It's not official yet but it looks like the NFHR will be holding an evaluation just prior to the NW Fjord show located in Moses Lake, WA on August 25th & 26th. If any of you on the list are even remotely thinking about bringing one or more horses to this evaluation we need to know about that as soon as possible. Please email me privately at the address below (or let MIke May know)  and we 'll get you all the information you need. Like I said, if you think there's a remote chance you mite like to come let us know...if you wait until June or July to say "Yeah, I think that mite be interesting to take in an evaluation" it mite be too late, cause if the numbers aren't there then the NFHR will have to pass on holding an evaluation in the NW this yearthanks DAVID & CONNIE VANHOOF FUNSHINE FARM FJORDS 9609 254TH AVE E. BUCKLEY, WA 98321 253-335-8829 hoofe...@comcast.net Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Pre-evaluation clinic
This message is from: "Pat Wolfe" Hello everyone, The CFHA will be adopting the NFHR evaluation program. This means we will be able to hold evaluations in Canada, and have the results recorded in Canada if the horse is CFHA registered or in the United States if the horse is NFHR registered. If there is enough interest in Ontario, Quebec and the Northern Eastern States I would like to organize an evaluation in the Ottawa area in the fall of 2009. I will be holding a pre-evaluation clinic March 14th on my farm. Please register by March 7th. I hope you can make it. For more information please contact Pat Wolfe. pwo...@istar.ca www.patwolfefjords.com (613) 256-0631 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Carol Tacey Calenders & Libby's Show/Evaluation
This message is from: "gsfulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We ordered a couple of Fjord Calendar's from Carol Tacey (Totem Farms) the photos are great. We had her ship them to Libby,Montana back in September. We brought 2 Fjords to Libby, 1 for Gordon to drive in the show & 1 to be Evaluated. Gordon and Spunkie came home with lot's of ribbons ( of all colors). He got a blue ribbon in the log skid again this year, so we will be going back to Libby in 2009 so he can defend his title. We brought a 3 year old mare from our own breeding ( Edymore Reka ) to be evaluated. Aurora Leivdal-Haavik from Norway ( the young lady that is staying with Catherine &Rune Lassesen in Oregon) handled Reka for us, as neither one of us could run fast enough for the evaluation. Thanks Aurora, you did a great job. Edymore Reka received a Red Ribbon with a score of 76. That's not to bad seeing Reka was pulled out of the pasture less then a month before and was only halter broke. Right after all the horses were evaluated, and before to ribbons were given out Wayne Hipsley gave the most informative talk regarding the animals that had been evaluated. He also gave a clinic the next morning , that man is a wealth of knowledge. We would also like to thank the Libby Show committee for all their hard work in making Libby the great show that it is. Well its time to go play with a horse or two, so take care. Edymore Fjords Gordon Fulton & Geri McNeil Bowden, AB Canada Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Virginia Fjord Evaluation and Ironwood Farm
This message is from: Paula Chmura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just returned home from the Virginia Fjord Evaluation and Festival and had a great time. The fjords were absolutely wonderful and I met a lot of great people :) I should have the pictures from the show done by the end of the week. I took a ton of pictures :) After the evaluation I had the great pleasure of going back to Ironwood Farm with Margaret Bogie and Tom Schneider and spent the day taking pictures of their wonderful fjords. What a treat! I have to say there aren't too many stallions I would be comfortable shooting with in a pasture by myself but Blitzen is such a sweetheart he is definitely one of them! Here is a link to some of the pictures I took at the farm that day - http://web6.sendtoprint.net/proofbook/ironwood/base.asp?ig1=ig&ww=958&lw=958&; js=1 you may need to enter the password ironwood to see the images. To see the different galleries just look under Categories at the top of the page. I had to be physically restrained from stealing Madellin's new colt and taking him home with me - what a cutie ;). Paula with Frodo and Galiana Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Libby Evaluation, Show, Clinic Info on PNFPG Website
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings, This message is to announce that the registration packet and event schedule for the 2008 Libby International Fjord Show has been posted and is now available for download on the Pacific Northwest Fjord Promotional Group website... http://www.pnfpg.org . You can also link to the evaluation packet for the NFHR evaluation planned for the two days prior to the show from the same location directly by going to http://www.nfhr.org/nfhrevaluation/2008_Libby_Eval_Entry_pkg.pdf . Additional information and registration is available for a clinic with Wayne Hipsley, NFHR Evaluator, judge, and global equine consultant to be held at Libby on the morning of Friday the 12th of September. The clinic will focus on the evaluation and selection of Norwegian Fjord Horses with particular attention to helping people have a better understanding of conformation, movement, and the form/function relationship. This will be a great follow up to the NFHR evaluation allowing those with questions to find clarity to their experience and will also serve as a great segueway to the show. Not just for those with an interest in breeding, the clinic will prove to be quite valuable in helping buyers make better choices when selecting Fjords and in helping people to better understand the strengths and weaknesses of their current Fjords. This is naturally useful in designing more effective training programs and maximizing a Fjord's potential. Of course, the annual Nordicfest celebration will be held concurrently for what will again prove to be a weekend of education and fun! Hopefully you are all having a wonderful summer and we'll hope to see you there! Happy Fjording! Dan Watanabe The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Evaluation Entry Forms -- now posted on the NFHR.com website
This message is from: "Jeanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just yesterday, Mike gave me the Evaluation entry forms for not only LaCrosse, but Herndon and Libby, to post on the NFHR.com website. Once on the website, go to the "Calendar of Events", and then choose your evaluation. You'll see the .pdf download there. Jeanne The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
La Crosse Evaluation
This message is from: Linda Syverson Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello there... Just a reminder that the La Crosse Evaluation is scheduled for August 8 and 9, 2008, for those of you interested in having your Fjord(s) evaluated, the entry form MUST BE post marked NO LATER THEN July, 15, 2008. If you lost your application or are in need of one, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will email you the form. Once completed, must be sent to NFHR Evaluation 1203 Appian Dr. Webster, NY 14580 Linda Syverson Kerr The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
NFHR Evaluation - Herndon, VA, 8/16
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kelly McDonald's e-mail reminded me to mention that there is another East Coast NFHR Evaluation this summer.? I certainly can recommend Antigonish as a wonderful place for an evaluation, but depending where you are located, Virginia may be closer.? We are returning to Frying Pan Park which is about 25 miles from Washington, DC.? This facility offers both indoor and outdoor rings, permanent stabling and great public traffic.? Virginia is one of the "horsey" areas of the United States and we do draw an audience for horse activities. This year the Virginia Evaluation is scheduled for one day and will include both conformation and performance tests.? Many local owners participated last year, so we are anticipating a lower demand particularly for the conformation tests.? However, anyone who registers for the Virginia evaluation will get to take the tests they need even if we have to continue onto 8/17. Our plan for 8/17 is to hold the first Virginia Fjord Fjestival horse show.? So participants can come to both an evaluation and a show.? Our senior evaluator will be Karen Cabic and she will also be our horse show judge.? I believe?that Pat Wolfe will be the junior evaluator and may be willing to do some judging for us as well.? It should be a fun weekend.? More information on the evaluation and the show will be made available in May.? Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm http://www.ironwood-farm.com Fjords for Sale:? 1984 Brown Dun Mare, 1992 Brown Dun Mare, 1999 Brown Dun Mare, 2006 Brown Dun Gelding and Filly, 2007 Brown Dun Gelding and 3 more 2008 foals on the way!? See the website for more information. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
NFHR EVALUATION - July 12th and 13th
This message is from: kelly MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, It's already almost the first of May and everything is finally starting to turn green! The horses are shedding like crazy, and although we've kept everyone in pretty good shape over the winter (thanks to the indoor) we've started some serious summer conditioning. We have a great long road out back of our farm, with lots of hills and fields. Taking the horses for a brisk trot out the road everyday really gets them in shape. It's the most fun when we go over the strategically placed logs, instead of around them ;) As some of you know, we will be hosting the first ever, NFHR Evaluation held in Canada. This will be a very exciting weekend and we are looking forward to it so much. It's going to be a very fun, educational event. There will be a lot of participants who will be presenting their Fjordhorses to the evaluators for the first time. In order to prepare both the people and the horses, we are grateful for a clinic presented by Pat Wolfe on July 11th. This is a great opportunity to work with and learn from one of the most knowledgeable Fjord owners in North America. Pat's experiences are near endless, and trust me, you can learn a great deal from him in a very short time. Antigonish is located approx. 2 hours from Halifax. Our facility will provide stabling, lots of room for trailers, and camping. We are only ten minutes from town, where there are many hotels, motels and restaurants. The evaluation will be a fun event for Fjord owners to get together, learn from each other, and encourage each other. The evaluation process is important for those who are looking to learn the strength and weaknesses of their Fjord, whether it be for breeding purposes or to help plan an appropriate training plan for your horses. I really hope Fjord owners on the East Coast will consider joining us this July. The weekend will be well worth the trip, whether you are from eastern Canada, or eastern USA. Please, if anyone has any questions, do not hesitate to contact me. If you have never participated in an Evaluation before, please do not be intimidated. There will be many participants in the same boat! There are many ways to prepare for the evaluation, and the preparation is half the fun! The performance tests are fun to practice. Jaimie and I have a couple of spaces available for training and conditioning. We also have a number of advanced riders available to help show horses during the evaluation. That's all for now. Thanks for reading! Kelly MacDonald _ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
East Coast Evaluation
This message is from: kelly MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everyone, I'd like to annouce that we will be hosting the first ever, NFHR Evaluation to be held in Canada. This is very exciting news! Although it will be in Canada, it is absolutely NOT limited to Canadians. We are eagerly inviting any Fjord owners from Eastern USA to come join us. The Evaluation will be held July 12th and 13th, 2008. We will be hosting a clinic with Pat Wolfe on July 11th, an attempt to ensure all Fjord owners are properly readied to show their Fjords to the evaluators in the best form possible. This is going to be a great event. We are looking forward to meeting many new people, and finally putting some faces to names. The Evaluation will be held at our facility, Creekside Equestrian Center Inc. Our 250 acre farm has two arenas, one indoor and one outdoor. We have kilometers of trails, and lots of paddocks and pastures. Stabling is available. We are located in Antigonish Co., approx. 2 hours from the Halifax International Airport. We are approx. a 7 hour drive from the Maine border crossing. Our farm is easily accessible and is close to hotels, restaurants and other public facilities. We hope to see many Fjord owners across Eastern Canada and USA join us for this exciting weekend. Please feel free to contact me for more details, details I will be happy to provide. While this is a lot of work and effort (on everyone's behalf), the Evaluation system is an asset to all of us. While the evaluations play an important role for the Fjord breeder, they are also a great way for Fjord owners to come together. So whether you are a breeder, a competitor, or a pleasure owner please know you are welcome and encouraged to join us. As the saying goes, "the more the merrier!". Sincerely, Kelly MacDonald _ At a loss for words? Find them by playing Seekadoo! Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
evaluation photos
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i have posted some of the photos from the lacrosse evaluation on my website. if i get a chance later i will identify some of the performance ones, but i did name the ones in the conformation gallery. i am sure some of the riders and drivers need no introduction anyhow. :) livinginoz.smugmug.com should be the first gallery, left side. laurie ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: La Crosse Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let us know if photos from the evaluation are posted. I'd love to see them. Linda ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: La Crosse Evaluation
This message is from: Joan griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I attended the LaCrosse, WI Evaluation with Patti Walter this past week-end and as Patti said in her message, it's always a good time when you are with Fjords and "Fjord Folk"! Patti also meantioned that we stayed with my sister, Rosie, and yes, Patti was treated like a "princess" getting the "ultimate, pillow-top mattress" and the fluffy, white, guest towells-what I give up for my friends! LOL! Anyway, this was the first time my sister attended an evaluation and she was very interested in the valuable information that Wayne and Brian shared on how to judge a horse. Also the horses that were presented were so "drop, dead, gorgeous" that my sister wanted to take them all home! She is excited about the breed and hopes to own one someday. I know my sister, and if she does get one Fjord, the "potatoe chip bug" will bite and she will end up with more than one! But my point is that it is a good idea to bring people who don't own a Fjord to an evaluation to find out what they are about. Patti did a phenomenal job with Berit at the evaluation. I still cannot believe she just started her in Jan.! Awesome job, Patti! Berit is a blue in my book too! And all of us in our group watching the Western test agreed that Patti looked like a "Rodeo Queen"-just beautiful! Joni Griffin The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Vestlandshest USA, evaluation So. Calif.
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would anticipate bringing 2 fjords to this evalaution. I live in the San diego area - Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/31/2007 5:37:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, NordicKees writes: Hi List: At our last Vestlandshest USS meeting, the topic of an evaluation came up and it would most likely be in June 2008, here in So. Calif. Hank Norse, our President, wanted me to ask the members on this list, as well as any fjord owner, if they would be interested in attending that? We would love to have anybody from around the country, as well as locally, attend and everybody is more than welcome. We would like to see if there is enough interest and/or enough people willing to commit to attend this event. Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Rondi Tyler for Hank Nors, President of Vestlandshest, USA. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
LaCrosse Evaluation
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just got home from the LaCrosse Evaluation and as usual, it was a wonderful time. ALWAYS great being around Fjord Horses and their owners. I brought Rokida's Berit, owned by Bryan and Sharon Simonson. I started her this year for the Simonson's. I took her in conformation, where she received a 79, oh so close to that blue ribbon! (She still is a blue in my book.) Nice comments from the judges and I think our evaluation system is a wonderful educational tool. This will help the Simonson's when they go to look for a stallion to breed Berit to. Or if they ever wish to sell her, it will help them in that way too and the next buyer. Then I took her in intro. english and intro western. Receiving a red ribbon in both of these. Berit is young and green and a few more months would have helped us, but we did our best and she had some very nice components to her tests. She was rough in some other spots butas with all horses, there are always things to work on. I appreciated the positive comments on her score sheet. Even if the marks were lower, getting positive , constructive remarks is helpful. I knew what her areas of strength and weaknesses are, but knowing that the judges could see that she is a training level horse and saying things like "is athletic", or "good intro test/start". Helps a lot. Oh, sure I"d love to get 10's but with a horse with only several months of riding under her belt, well.it doesn't really happen that way. Personally, I like to see young / green horses do the introduce tests. Would rather see that , then waiting till the horse has been ridden for years and years before taking them in for the tests. I would like to see LOTS more do the performance tests and hopefully with positive feedback from the judges , more will come and do the performance tests then wait till their horse is completely finished in their training. It is a great tool and very happy our association provides it to our members. I'm thankful to the Simonson's who wanted me to bring their mare , even though waiting until next year probably would have brought in higher scores. They wanted to give her the experience. They will be back, hopefully with them riding the tests next time, and she will improve on the scores I'm sure! That is what it's all about, working on our skills and the horses, and we have to start somewhere! AND, as I said, I'm very thankful to the association for seeing the need for these evaluation in our breed and ALL the people who helped organize and run it. It went VERY smoothly and they all worked very hard. Your efforts did not go unnoticed! Also the judges, who had a VERY HOT and HUMID weekend, but kept their cool among the heat. Thanks to Joni Griffin, for coming along and because of her, I had a GREAT place to stay -her sister, Rosie's place. Felt like a princess in that bed!!!hehehehe Patti Jo Walter www.franciscreekfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Virginia NFHR Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The tentative schedule for the upcoming NFHR Evaluation in Herndon, VA is available on my website, http://www.ironwood-farm.com.? We hope to see many Fjord owners and fans at the Evaluation.? There will be a companion event, the Virginia Fjord Fjestival which features sales horses (see my website for a sales catalog that includes 17 Fjords), daily harness demonstrations by Barbara Corson, daily carriage demos by Al Smith, gift items from Martie Bolinski, and custom?embroidery by Marsha Korose.?? It will be fun and for now, the temperature is projected to be only in the mid-80's. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA? The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Vestlandshest USA, evaluation So. Calif.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/31/2007 5:37:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, NordicKees writes: Hi List: At our last Vestlandshest USS meeting, the topic of an evaluation came up and it would most likely be in June 2008, here in So. Calif. Hank Norse, our President, wanted me to ask the members on this list, as well as any fjord owner, if they would be interested in attending that? We would love to have anybody from around the country, as well as locally, attend and everybody is more than welcome. We would like to see if there is enough interest and/or enough people willing to commit to attend this event. Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Rondi Tyler for Hank Nors, President of Vestlandshest, USA. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Greeley, CO ~ Evaluation ~ my thoughts
This message is from: "Jeanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good Morning, List, Well... here it is; Monday AM, the day after the evaluation that was held here in Colorado over the weekend. I thought I would put some of my thoughts to this note, to share with everyone the fun time that was had by all. Tomora Training Center was an AWESOME venue. What a perfect setting and facility to hold the first fjord evaluation in Colorado. Nice stalls, washrack, arena's and open field for the utility courses. Oh, and don't let me forget to mention, lots of trees which provided shade to all of the spectators. and shade was in need, as the temps on Saturday were said to be 99 degrees, in Greeley. Ugh. it was brutal. My hat goes off to the evaluators who stood in the sun ALL day long. It was HOT. Saturday was the confirmation tests and the western riding tests. After the testing was completed, a bar-b-que was held, for all to join in. That was really fun, and delicious! Thanks to Tom Poirier and Irv Timmerman for burnin' the 'dawgs and burgers on the grills for us! And then! (the best part of the evening, in my opinion). a "preview" of the Winona DVD, An Evening of Dancing Fjords !!! Beth and Sandy brought a big TV and DVD player and we set it up in front of the lawnchairs and got to watch that. WOW, is all I can say. The wait will surely be worth it! Trust me ! It is VERY well done. Sunday began with the English riding tests, followed by the driving and draft tests. The temps weren't quite as brutal, and we were even treated to one of our typical Colorado afternoon thunderstorms, which created a bit of a "rain delay" at the very end of the draft testing. On our lunch break, (after Tom burned the last of the BBQ makings for us), the owners of Tomora opened up their carriage museum for all of us to tour. That was really cool. They've got quite a collection of carriages to view. I won't be able to mention everybody who participated, but would like to thank everyone who came. Kathy Kramer and her crew had come from California with her two beautiful stallions. (I think she traveled the farthest?) Beth German came from New Mexico with her gelding, Starfire Arend, despite just having an emergency appendectomy about a week and a half ago! She hauled him 9 hours, by herself! Our Rocky Mountain Fjord Horse Club has the best people. We are truly a great "fjord family". Beth and Sandy did an incredible job putting on this evaluation, and I only hope it's the first of many to be held here in Colorado. Many thanks to them. Also, a big thank you to Howard and Sophie Fiedler. They know what the evaluation process is all about. From setting everything up, to answering questions, to tallying up scores and handing out ribbons and medallions. A big "Thank You" to Pat Wolfe and Wayne Hipsley, our evaluators. Wayne's comments during the confirmation testing were truly invaluable. Everyone was glued to the fence of the arena, listening to all he had to say. Good luck to everyone going to Blue Earth. Jeanne Poirier and crew ~ Berthoud, CO The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Virginia NFHR Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Virginia NFHR Evaluation entry packets are out. If you pre-registered, your packet has been mailed to you. Otherwise, it is available at http://www.nfhr.com and http://www.ironwood-farm.com. Entries must be postmarked by July 27, 2007. If you have any questions about the evaluation, please feel free to contact me or Curt Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Also, the Virginia Fjord Fjestival sales event will be held at the same time. I am getting ready to send out our preliminary sales list. Feel free to e-mail me if you want to receive e-mail. I am happy to include anyone who is interested. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://www.ironwood-farm.com ? The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Evaluation Results
This message is from: "kelly MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, Are the results from the 25th Anniversary Show still on the NFHR website? I couldn't seem to find them. Also, is there anywhere online to find results from various evaluations? Thanks in advance. Kelly From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: "Other Life" Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:25:29 EDT >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I'm a retired elementary school teacher so my pension and recently acquired >social security are what keep Braveheart and Bogie in grain, hay and Circus >Peanuts. And it's true what all my retired friends told me...this retirement gig >is OK!! Now that I'm into it, I really don't know how I found the time to >hold down a full-time job! > This summer we're doing a couple of CDEs and some Fjordish gatherings but >most of what's left of the family fortune is going into remodeling my barn. >I'm not expanding (just 3 stalls and an office/tack room) but the original was >put up in 1976 so it needs a little work. I keep staring at that third >stall. My brother says that if I buy another Fjord he's going to have me >committed, but still... Maybe I'll stuff it with hay to lessen the temptation. > >Kay, busy buffing up good old Yellow Pony Farm >and Braveheart and Bogie, who are lolling in the lap of luxury at the Hotel >Melissa (our loyal trainer) > > > >** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: >http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > Give Messenger and Spaces Feedbacks! Click here! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Evaluation Clinic at Starfire Farm
This message is from: "Kelly Hoem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Jeanne for the great recap of the clinic that Beth and Sandy put on last Sunday. You did a great job. We truly enjoyed our day and came back to Fort Morgan with great information and suggestions from Beth on what to do to help us get Ole ready for the evaluation. The only thing I can add is to say that if you get a chance to either take your horse or just go by yourself to the clinic Beth and Sandy are holding on June 24th you should take the opportunity. It was definitely one of the best spent Sundays that we have had in a very long time. Thank you Beth and Sandy for hosting these clinics. You are both wonderful people and words can not say how appreciative we are for your hospitality, friendship and advise that you shared with is last Sunday. Kelly & Susan Hoem [EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Evaluation Clinic at Starfire Farm
This message is from: "Jeanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List, Just wanted to take a bit to tell everyone about the great clinic Beth and Sandy had, at their place, last Sunday. (Berthoud, CO) To those who have applied for the evaluation for here in Colorado, (to happen in July), Beth and Sandy held an "Evaluation Clinic" to help answer questions and give advice on how to prepare you and your horse for the evaluation. Their farm was so pretty, when we arrived. The Spring we've had has been kind to all our fields... can you say GREEN? They had everything set up SO nice, and I'm sure had spent days before mowing, it was all so nice. They had a "food tent" set up on the grass with refreshments and tables. People started arriving, some with horses, some without. Cherrie Nolden and her husband, Lee made a 7 hour drive from Kansas, to be there! Beth began with some video we all watched, on different evaluations, on different tests. She talked about each horse in each instance, and what the judges look for, and what the handler should/or should not be doing. Then she took the opportunity to demonstrate a bit of grooming. She began trimming on Pat Kakora's new gelding's mane, and did a bit on the 'feathers' on his legs. She talked about good grooming, mane & tail care (using Vinny's tail as a good example of what a fjord tail should look like!), hoof presentation (no black hoof polish), ect. An interesting comment she made was about over-doing the show products. She said when she touches the horse, she doesn't want to have to worry about where to wipe her hands off, when she gets covered in too much show products. Good advice! :-) We then moved onto the conformation tests. There were about 5 people who had their horses there, for that. Beth took the time with each one of them, telling us the proper way to 'stand up' your horse for presentation, and how to walk them and trot them. What GREAT advice, being able to know this info before you do it for the first time in front of evaluators! Each horse was different, as was each handler. Kelly Hoem had Ole, Sami had Tirra, Cindy Timmerman had Vinny, Pat Kokora had her gelding (by Erland, cute as can be... but I forgot his name!) and Grace Newport had Tamara. Everyone totally enjoyed watching each of these people stand their horses up for the conformation. Grace was very generous and 'lended' Tamara to several people who didn't have horses there, to practice this with her. Then we moved onto the draft tests. Beth and Sandy had the intro draft course set up. There were two of us doing that. They have a stone boat we got to hook up to, and the course all laid out. Sandy video taped us doing this, what a great tool, to see yourself in action! (I've got A LOT of practicing to do with my Hanne before Greeley!!) Kelly Hoem and his wife Susan drove from Ft. Morgan, CO (@80 miles) and his 3 year old gelding there doing the draft test. After the draft, we moved onto the riding. There were a few horses doing the riding tests. My daughter Sami rode an advanced English test on Tirra, and Cindy Timmerman rode the Intro Western test on Vinny. After the arena work, we moved out into the utility course, both got to ride that. There were other people there, without horses, so I'm sorry if I haven't mentioned everyone. It was a great crowd, and I think everyone thoroughly enjoyed the day. Beth and Sandy are offering another clinic on June 24th. Same thing. What a GREAT opportunity to get advice and guidance before taking your horse to an evaluation. Thank you, Beth, for a truly enjoyable and informative day! Can't wait 'till the 24th. Jeanne - Berthoud, CO ~ getting frustrated of rain every day... need some hot dry days to make hay! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Galiana Turns Two and Virginia Evaluation News
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am reply to Paula's post and link to the lovely pictures of Ironwood Galiana. I do need to correct her dam information. Galiana is out of SF Saska, a Holunder daughter, and not out of Gene Bauer's venerable mare, Severina. Saska is also the dam of our stallion, Ironwood Blitzen, who is by Gjest. We also have bred Saska to LFF Ulend and have a very nice grey dun gelding, Ironwood Crow Hreidar.  If Galiana had been the offspring of any other mare, we would have kept her for our program. However, we are excited that Paula has her and is going to focus on dressage with her. Since I am posting, I thought I would update the List on the activities in Virginia related to the upcoming NFHR Evaluation. We just finished an Evaluation Prep clinic at my farm. It was lead by Curt Pierce and we focused on the conformation evaluation and practiced all the tests. Most of the participants had not been to an evaluation before and wanted to know what they could expect. Preparation is critical for an evaluation. You definitely want to practice before you come and we all learned what we needed to practice with our horses this weekend. If there is further interest in a preparation clinic on the East Coast, please feel free to contact Curt Pierce. I know he'll be in NC for the Fjords and Friends ride, but that week may be pretty full with planned events already. A little preparation can go a long, long way, so I'd encourage anyone who is new to the Evaluation system or hasn't been to an Evaluation in a while to contact Curt for assistance. He is just the best, although we did learn that I can't read the advanced driving test from the back of a marathon cart without getting motion sickness at the trot! Speaking of the Virginia Evaluation in Herndon, VA. It is definitely on for August 18 & 19th.  We do have room for more horses. Let me know if you need an entry form and I will mail one to you. We also are holding the Virginia Fjord Fjestival at the same time as the Evaluation. The Fjestival will feature demonstrations, vendors and highlight sale horses. (Sales ho res do not have to participate in the Evaluation.) More information about Fjestival is on my web site, http://www.ironwood-farm.com. The preliminary sales catalog should be out by June 15th, but check for updates. We get horses added to the sale over the summer. We are expecting a sizeable public turn-out given our premier location and the strong horse community in this area. Marketing and promotion efforts are in full swing.  Paula will be present for the Virginia Evaluation as our official photographer. I hope Paula won't mind me saying that she is a very gifted professional horse photographer and we're thrilled to obtain her services. She will be available for individual photo sessions in addition to her official work. I certainly plan to use her services as we are bringing four Fjords, including Blitzen. Happy Memorial Day to everyone! Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA 540-729-4430 http://www.ironwood-farm.com AOL at AOL.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Moses Lake Evaluation Pre-Application Deadline oops
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oops! Sorry, this was to go to Dan privately... Karen Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees From: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Moses Lake Evaluation Pre-Application Deadline Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:52:11 + This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DAN, i WILL BE SENDING IN A CHECK FOR $100 / 2 HORSES, IN TODAYS MAILYOU CAN COUNT ME "IN"...THANKS! KAREN Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords :: 2528 NE Dogwood Lane :: Madras, Or. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Moses Lake Evaluation Pre-Application Deadline
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DAN, i WILL BE SENDING IN A CHECK FOR $100 / 2 HORSES, IN TODAYS MAILYOU CAN COUNT ME "IN"...THANKS! KAREN Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords :: 2528 NE Dogwood Lane :: Madras, Or. 97741(541) 475-0332 /home (541) 948-2595 /work http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees From: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: Digest Fjord Subject: Moses Lake Evaluation Pre-Application Deadline Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:22:20 -0700 (PDT) This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings, This is a reminder that the May 15 Pre-Application deadline for the tentatively scheduled NFHR Evaluation in Moses Lake, WA is fast approaching. The NFHR uses Pre-Applications to determine if there is enough interest to proceed with the evaluation, so please send completed forms and checks soon! Only members submitting a Pre-Application Form will automatically be sent an Application Form. If space is available, other members may request an Application Form and submit it prior to the final application deadline. The Pre-Application packet can be downloaded from the NFHR website at http://www.nfhr.com/PDF/2007MosesLakeEvaluationPreEntry.pdf If you have any questions about this event, please contact me by phone at (509) 258-7348 or email, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Kind regards, Dan Watanabe Moses Lake Evaluation Coordinator Member, NFHR Board of Directors The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
NFHR MIDWEST EVALUATION
This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NFHR MIDWEST EVALUATION Just a reminder that the Preliminary Application for the Midwest Evaluation is due May 15, 2007 The Evaluation will be held in LaCrosse, WI on Aug 11&12th. We know this is a busy time of the year and the paperwork is someplace in a pile on your desk. If you have any questions or need more information, please contact me. Sophie Fiedler 815-777-6008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Moses Lake Evaluation Pre-Application Deadline
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings, This is a reminder that the May 15 Pre-Application deadline for the tentatively scheduled NFHR Evaluation in Moses Lake, WA is fast approaching. The NFHR uses Pre-Applications to determine if there is enough interest to proceed with the evaluation, so please send completed forms and checks soon! Only members submitting a Pre-Application Form will automatically be sent an Application Form. If space is available, other members may request an Application Form and submit it prior to the final application deadline. The Pre-Application packet can be downloaded from the NFHR website at http://www.nfhr.com/PDF/2007MosesLakeEvaluationPreEntry.pdf If you have any questions about this event, please contact me by phone at (509) 258-7348 or email, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Kind regards, Dan Watanabe Moses Lake Evaluation Coordinator Member, NFHR Board of Directors The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
NFHR Evaluation at Moses Lake, WA August 22-23, 2007.
This message is from: "Karl & Jerrie Froelich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Norwegian Fjord Horse owner and enthusiast, The Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry (NFHR) plans to conduct the first evaluation ever held in the State of Washington at the Grant County Fairgrounds in Moses Lake, August 22-23, 2007. This evaluation will take place on the two days prior to the all-new Northwest Fjord Show sponsored by the Pacific Northwest Fjord Promotional Group (PNFPG) as part of what promises to be five fantastic days of Fjords. An evaluation is a terrific opportunity to have your Fjord judged objectively, not against other horses, but against the breed standard and is a terriffic opportunity to learn more about what makes a good Fjord horse. Conformation and movement tests will take place on Wednesday, August 22 and perfomance tests will take place on Thursday August 23. Even if you can not bring a Fjord this time, we encourage you to come and join us for this fun, educational event. Of course, volunteers are always welcome. For more information please contact Dan Watanabe at (509) 258-7348 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] For participation in the Northwest Fjord Show contact David VanHoof at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Northwest Fjord Show is the sister show to the Libby International Fjord Show, held in Libby Montana September 7-9. Both shows are put on by the Pacific Northest Fjord Promotional Group (PNFPG). For information on the LIbby show, contact Shirley Anderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twice the shows - twice the Fjord Fun! Check us out at http://www.pnfpg.org. Cheers, Karl Froelich Chairman, PNFPG. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
NFHR Virginia Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am pleased to announce to the List that the NFHR BOD has approved August 18 - 19, 2007 for the NFHR Virginia Evaluation. Since I like planning, I wanted to get the date and preliminary details out as soon as possible. The Evaluation will be held at Frying Pan Park in Herndon, VA. Frying Pan Park is a facility dedicated to horse activities and hosts horse shows, horse auctions, and two USEA horse trials. It has plenty of permanent stabling, two outdoor rings, an indoor ring, a cross country course, and trails. The footing is excellent and the park is well maintained. It's about 25 miles from Washington, DC and close to Dulles Airport. There's plenty of hotels, restaurants and shopping nearby, including a new Dover Saddlery. The Virginia Evaluation will be the ONLY NFHR Evaluation on the East Coast in 2007. Northern Virginia is known for its strong support of horse activities, so we are expecting to attract a crowd of spectators. I am engaged in promotional efforts now. Professional equine photographer and Fjord owner, Paula Chmura, has agreed to be the Evaluation's official photographer. There will be on-site vendor opportunities, too. We have rented both the indoor and outdoor rings for the Evaluation. August in Virginia can be hot and we may have afternoon thunder showers. The host committee felt it was critically important to have an inclement weather plan in place for all tests. Entry information will be available later this year. For those of you who are thinking of bringing your horse(s) to an Evaluation, I know that Curt Pierce is trying to plan some educational clinics on the conformation evaluation and performance tests. Look for future announcements for those clinics. Meanwhile if you have any specific questions about the 2007 NFHR Virginia Evaluation, please e-mail me. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA 22737 http://.ironwood-farm.com Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Perspective on Evaluation scores
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The NFHR Evaluation system also includes a score for disposition in all the performance tests. > Curt Pierce HOWEVER, many people probably don't require performance testing scores, in their routine preference for a blue ribbon conformation horse for breeding, which does NOT temperament score.. right? IS THE basic conformation evaluation process in accordance with current USPAP guidelines? (Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practices) ..which includes horse temperament testing I believe. I would imagine, compliance is a necessity, because evaluation scores affect the net profit and loss of individual horses, as has been often inferred on this list. Has that aspect been considered ..but that's probably more of a legal issue, than an EC consideration. Still, it might be a good idea to follow their guidelines..? Ruthie, nw mt US The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
evaluation temperment & credit to Wayne Hipsley
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ruthie write: I could go on about the lack of a temperament score also, but realize that no breed judging system is perfect and that it is at least better than nothing. *** Pat Writes: For sure the system we have in play right now is far far better than what most breed associations offer. I personally give a great deal of credit to that system to Wayne Hipsley - who when I first got into Fjords was gathering up all the loose ends and reignited a flame under the evaluation program. Wayne is an extra ordinary individual who's educational skills are exceptional. Without his work training the new evaluators, we would not be where we are today. I used to worry about not having a true score for temperament - but after awhile it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what that individual has in terms of demeanor individually or what he/she throws. As offspring goes out and works for their owners it gets pretty obvious after awhile if temperament and willingness to work and try is an inherent issue or not. With, I believe 4 or 5 evaluations in the works for this year, I highly recommend those on the fence about going to one, to first read and look over the old record books, - good time of the year to do so - weather bound and all - then attend one in your area. I finally got to meet and talk with Bob v. Bon at the 25th Anniversary - and I'll agree with Carol that he is a walking encyclopedia - regarding the Fjord breed in particular and horses in general. But I'll stick with Wayne Hipsley - as far as the "top gun" - and sincerely hope he remains with us, and that the newly elected Board of Directors utilize him - in our attempt to progress and keep this breed as great as it is. With respect for work done and the future. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Perspective on Evaluation scores
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Perspective on Evaluation scores Ruthie wrote "I personally rely on instinct, read their aura, drink the vibes, etc. because there's never an astute Norwegian around when you need one, hah." I agree, Ruthie. Instinct, aura, and vibes are essential is assessing Fjords Did you forget aroma? I have to go now and watch the finals of the Westminster Kennel Club show. Bye now, Peg Knutsen www.horsehumor.net The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fw: Perspective on Evaluation scores
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the clarification, Curt. Peg Knutsen www.horsehumor.net - Original Message - From: "Curtis Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fjordhorse Digest" Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Perspective on Evaluation scores This message is from: "Curtis Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peg wrote - The Norwegians are able to judge temperament readily, since they have [the stallions] for several weeks before they are judged. The part of the Norwegian Evaluation system referred to by Peg is the Norwegian stallion station testing, not the Norwegian stallion conformation evaluation. The Norwegian Evaluators look at disposition during the performance tests. The NFHR Evaluation system also includes a score for disposition in all the performance tests. Regards and stay warm! Curt Pierce Mathias, WV http://deepcreekfjords.com/ PS. Where the Fjords are playing in the snow and sleet. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Perspective on Evaluation scores
This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peg Knutsen wrote: The Norwegians are able to judge temperament readily, since they have [the stallions] for several weeks before they are judged. The number of stallions that go through the Norwegian Station testing (which is where they receive daily scores regarding behavior/temperament and trainability) is relatively few compared to the number of three year olds that are presented at the one-day evaluation for three year old stallions. Maybe one could say that 5 of the 25 to 30 three year olds might go on the station testing the following year? I'm sure my numbers aren't that accurate, but you get the idea. They also use professional trainers during the testing process (who offer their assesments of the horses) and separate professional riders and drivers during the final presentation/testing day of the performance testing, who also offer their opinions/scores. In evaluating the three year olds, in addition to conformation, they also perform a basic driving test, and a basic work horse test pulling a farm wagon. That is where they evaluate temperament, not in the conformation ring (although they do take note of stallions that display poor behavior in the ring and during the vetting examination.) I mentioned this before, but while watching the conformation testing in Denmark (which was held over several days) I noticed that stallions that did not display a suitable temperament during the conformation examination, did not come back for further examination the following day. Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Perspective on Evaluation scores
This message is from: "Curtis Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peg wrote - > The Norwegians are able to judge temperament readily, since they > have [the stallions] for several weeks before they are judged. The part of the Norwegian Evaluation system referred to by Peg is the Norwegian stallion station testing, not the Norwegian stallion conformation evaluation. The Norwegian Evaluators look at disposition during the performance tests. The NFHR Evaluation system also includes a score for disposition in all the performance tests. Regards and stay warm! Curt Pierce Mathias, WV http://deepcreekfjords.com/ PS. Where the Fjords are playing in the snow and sleet. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Perspective on Evaluation scores
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well said, Ruthie. In this regard, the Norwegians set a good standard. They probably have an inherited gene by now which enables them to absorb and understand the whole picture at not more than a glance. As you know, I have wanted a temperament category included in the Conformation and Movement section for a long time. The Norwegians are able to judge temperament readily, since they have [the stallions] for several weeks before they are judged. I'm still not sure how our system could be adapted to include temperament. Do you have any thoughts on this? I know you don't usually like to express strong opinions, but how about just this once...? :) Peg Knutsen>>> Verr-y fun-ny=))) I'll bet that inherited Norse gene you refer to, that allows for shrewd snap judgements on Fjord flesh, works just as well for scanning temperaments on day one.. maybe they fish for the balance of time? ha ha. I think you just about hit the nail on the head Peg... We should of course ask the Norwegians how they do it ! I personally rely on instinct, read their aura, drink the vibes, etc. because there's never an astute Norwegian around when you need one, hah. Ruthie, nw mt US The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Perspective on Evaluation scores
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ruthie wrote - "I think anyone who has been in horses for quite some time and > developed an eye for conformation, will agree that it is the overall > first glance that captures the harmonious unison of a good physical > specimen. I realize the evaluation score sheet has a "balance and > harmony" bracket under type, but the score is insignificantly minimal > and should have far more consideration in the composite score. > > Best body parts are important, but only as important as they match, > and are well assembled. > > I could go on about the lack of a temperament score also, but realize > that no breed judging system is perfect and that it is at least better > than nothing." Well said, Ruthie. In this regard, the Norwegians set a good standard. They probably have an inherited gene by now which enables them to absorb and understand the whole picture at not more than a glance. They do look at different characteristics, starting at the feet. I'm sure our excellent Evaluators do the same thing, but I'm not sure the Eval sheet categories allow them to express this to best advantage. Don't get me wrong, I am enthusiastic about our Evaluation system [I should have Frequent User points...], and am glad to see more folks using it all the time. As you know, I have wanted a temperament category included in the Conformation and Movement section for a long time. The Norwegians are able to judge temperament readily, since they have [the stallions] for several weeks before they are judged. I'm still not sure how our system could be adapted to include temperament. Do you have any thoughts on this? I know you don't usually like to express strong opinions, but how about just this once...? :) Peg Knutsen www.horsehumor.net www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
2007 Proposal for Evaluation in Colorado
This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello All, We are taking the initial steps to organize an NFHR Evaluation to be held in Colorado, July 7th and 8th, 2007. We plan to offer both conformation and performance tests. The facility is very nice, with easy access, between the City of Greeley and Hwy. I-25 on Co. Hwy 34. It offers a full sized indoor riding arean (Dressage arena size), a full size outdoor Driven Dressage arena, a full size outdoor (ridden) Dressage arena, plus another very large warm-up arena. In addition, for you CDE buffs, they have a top notch marathon/obstacle course (including a covered bridge!) that you could play around on. If you would like to attend, please send us an e-mail and let us know how many horses you would like to bring, as well as, perhaps, what you might plan to participate in (conformation/performance or both). Thanks very much, Beth -- Starfire Farm Beth Beymer and Sandy North http://www.starfirefarm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I appreciate Beth's thoughtful response on the Winona wind issue. I certainly think that the NFHR trained evaluators, whom Beth is one, certainly considered all the points she raised about factors that impacted on performance. It's been my experience that evaluators are not shy about stating that a horse needs more training, the handler was nervous, etc. However, when a senior evaluator writes several times that wind was a factor in the horse's performance, I think it can be taken literally. As for Alan Merrill's comments, it is indeed sad to see personal attacks return to the List. My concern is about the fairness of holding an evaluation performance test under extremely adverse conditions. I certainly think that moving the riding and driving tests indoors because of adverse weather conditions was the right thing to do. I don't think that the riding or driving results would have been the same if these tests were held outdoors in the 40 mph wind. I think EVERY horse had a better chance to perform when their test was moved indoors. It seems unfair that the draft test didn't get accorded the same treatment as the other performance tests and I hope that steps are taken so a similar situation does not occur in the future. Margaret A. Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://www.ironwood-farm.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:52 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I was at the Libby show in Montana this last September we had a guest speaker from Germany and one of the things he quoted (can't remember who he quoted) was that "a Fjord horse must first be a Fjord horse in it's head". That would have been Jon Hegdal that was quoted I am sure. Phil Prichard used he same quote at the Banquet in Winona. As I understand the evaluation proccess you can always do another one and if you get a better score it'll be put in the book. I also thought it was your choice as to whether you wanted to have your scores in the book anyway...is this not right? All scores are put in the Record Book. The last line of the disclaimer paragraph on the Evaluation Entry form says: "I give my permission for the evaluation results, photographs and/or videos of my horse to be published by the NFHR." My dad always told me that hard work was the great equalizer. Sounds like a smart man. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:51 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote: This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was wondering about the actual adverse effects of the performance scores on the horse. Is it possible to repeat the test and have a higher score substituted? Or at least dilute the lower score? Any of the tests in the Evaluation can be re done at a later date. That includes Conformation or Performance tests. The scores will be in the Record book each time the horse does a test. Mike I know that I had Beth Beymer do Rom's introductory English Riding test at Libby, even though we both knew that he was not really ready. I just wanted to see how he could do given the fact that we were already there and had paid for the test. I had always thought I could have him retake the test later. Poor Beth. That year she had Wayne Hipsley giving her little hints on how to get the correct performance out of horses. Wayne did not realize that Beth had been given several green horses to ready for the performance tests only a short time before the Libby evaluation. She knew what to do, but was unable to work miracles. (At the time Rom was a mature stallion, but had never had riding training before.) Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At the 2001 stallion evaluation in Nordfjordeid it was spitting snow and blowing. That said, the weather in Winona was considerably worse. One looked out and saw dust blowing, trees bent over. I remember thinking how happy I was that I was not one of the judges who had to stand out in the cold and watch the draft evaluations. It WAS nasty. In Norway, Catherine Lassesen advised me that the Norwegian attitude is that "there is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes." In Norway, people wear waterproof insulated nylon coveralls routinely, even in town in the beginning of May. Sort of "Carharts on steroids!" The only comparable gear I have seen here is in sailing supply stores. My guess is that the Norwegians would say that a Fjord needs to be able to deal with the weather, whatever it is. I do know that I get a bit impatient with people who have to make excuses for their fancy warmblood that can't possibly perform its dressage test because there is some scary object (blue tarp, white tire, etc) any where near the arena. It would be good to have "No excuses horses." (Maybe a great breeders farm name"No Excuses Fjord Farm?" Or "Norwegian Fjord Horse, the No Excuses Horse." Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am responding to Jo Wilgus's question about inclement weather plans for an Evaluation. First it is important to recognize that an evaluation holds each horse against an absolute standard. It is not a horse show... Hi, I've been reading about the evals at Winona with interest & amusement. I took my mare Libby to our first eval in Libby Montana this last September, so I know all the work that goes into preparing for the evaluation. I can't help but wonder what the Norwegians of old might have said about the conditions at Winona...I thought one of the main attractions and/or attributes of the fjord horse is their versatility and stability? I'm sorry, I just can't imagine an old Norwegian farmer taking his horse out on a blustery fall or winter day to drag fire logs out of the woods and putting up with his horse misbehaving because it was cold and blowing. When I was at the Libby show in Montana this last September we had a guest speaker from Germany and one of the things he quoted (can't remember who he quoted) was that "a Fjord horse must first be a Fjord horse in it's head". We can breed the best looking Fjord in the world, best mover, etc. etc., but if it's not Fjord in the head, you might as well go get an Arab or Thoroughbred or any other half brain horse (although I've had good Arabs & Thoroughbreds). Looking like a Fjord is important, don't get me wrong, but if the horse doesn't think like a Fjord then what do you have? As I understand the evaluation proccess you can always do another one and if you get a better score it'll be put in the book. I also thought it was your choice as to whether you wanted to have your scores in the book anyway...is this not right? I don't mean to salt anyone's wounds, but the way I look at stuff like this is: If your horse didn't do as well as you thought it should, and you think it had to do with the conditions at the time, then your horse was not as prepared as he, she, or it should have been. I honestly believe that if we have a good working relationship with our horses they'll perform for us regardless of what is going on around them. If we don't have that good working relationship, then everything we do is a crap shoot. My dad always told me that hard work was the great equalizer. --David VanHoof Work smart, Play hard The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Margaret: I have seen no complaints from the Blue or Red ribbon winners in the Draft Evaluation at Winona. I suggest your frustration is aimed at your horse who earned a Yellow ribbon rather than at the hard working organizers and volunteers who made such a success of the 25th Anniversary Show in spite of adverse weather conditions. Alan Merrill Tryon, N. C. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was wondering about the actual adverse effects of the performance scores on the horse. Is it possible to repeat the test and have a higher score substituted? Or at least dilute the lower score? I know that I had Beth Beymer do Rom's introductory English Riding test at Libby, even though we both knew that he was not really ready. I just wanted to see how he could do given the fact that we were already there and had paid for the test. I had always thought I could have him retake the test later. Poor Beth. That year she had Wayne Hipsley giving her little hints on how to get the correct performance out of horses. Wayne did not realize that Beth had been given several green horses to ready for the performance tests only a short time before the Libby evaluation. She knew what to do, but was unable to work miracles. (At the time Rom was a mature stallion, but had never had riding training before.) Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Margaret from your reply. Sounds like I would have been whining the whole time. Bitter cold is so NOT me. I hope at future events everyone will be blessed with good weather. Maybe you should do it here in CA? I know there is talk about having an evaluation here. There was an evaluation here in Fallbrook. It was hot. See I have lived in CA too long. Hot, cold, winds I complain about it all. It has been beautiful here this past week. Have been riding both my Fjords Regn and Duffers. Have a great day. Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Winona Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am responding to Jo Wilgus's question about inclement weather plans for an Evaluation. First it is important to recognize that an evaluation holds each horse against an absolute standard. It is not a horse show where there is a relative standard based on the competitors involved. The principal of an evaluation is that the test is a fair one and that distractions that can influence the outcome of a test should be limited. The goal is to have all horses do the best they can do as they are NOT competing against each other but against a standard. All the performance tests in Winona were scheduled to be held outdoors. However, the riding and driving tests were moved indoors. The draft test was held in very strong winds in the bitter cold. Is that a fair test of the horse ability? If the weather was too bad for the riding and driving tests to be held outdoors, why was it okay for the draft test to be held under those conditions? The evaluators were complaining about the wind and the impact it was having on scores. They did this in writing on the score sheets. I have been on the host committee for two NFHR evaluations and we always had inclement weather plans for outside activities. Apparently this wasn't considered when organizing Winona. The only reason I have commented on this subject publicly is because the co-chair of the Evaluation Committee posted on this List that the "weather caused us a few problems." That is an understatement. Anyone attending the Winona Evaluation knows that weather had a huge impact on the entire event. Margaret A. Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://www.ironwood-farm.com ***Fjords for Sale: 2002 Brown Dun mare, 2003 Gray and Brown Dun geldings, 2006 Brown Dun Colt and Filly*** The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Evaluation @ Winona
This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Evaluation at Winona The NFHR 25th was an event to be very proud of -- from the NFHR Evaluation, Stallion Row, the Horse Show, An Evening of Dancing Fjords. As Co Chairperson of the Evaluation Committee, I would like to thank our Evaluators: Karen Cabic, Jim Havelhurst and Wayne Hipsley (Senior Evaluators) and Beth Beymer, Brian Jensen and Karen Maas for a job well done.They did an excellent job of educating us when they commented on each horse as they were brought back in and presented their ribbons. Thanks to all who participated. This was our largest evaluation to date with 49 Fjords doing 38 conformation tests and 60+ performance tests. The weather caused us a few problems but otherwise it was exciting to see how our Fjords keep getting better and the performance tests are something to be very proud of. Results will be published in the next Herald. Thanks also to those who watched-- we hope it was a great learning experience for you. A big thanks to all the volunteers who helped. I know I will miss many who helped but have to name a few. Alan Merrill who measured the height and cannon bone of all conformation horses and was also in charge of setting up the utility courses with many helpers including Chris Simino, Donna & Chet Thomas and Gary Holland. Sandy North, Else Bigton & PrudenceTruman stepped up to photo all the evaluation horses when the hired photographer had a problem. Roger Cabic, Genie Dethloff, Sharon Makurat and Mark McGinley where always there to lend a hand. A special thanks to Mike and Renee May for doing all the paperwork. I heard good comments from our European guests. Those who had been to America before where impress with the quality of our horses and with the level of our Evaluation performance tests. Sincerely, Sophie Fiedler The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Libby show and Evaluation
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, Libby was wonderful and, as usual, added to our file of "adventure" stories. The first, worst, surprise was not being able to take our stallion, Erlend, to the Eval and Show. He seems to be recovering - good news. We appreciated the tons of support and concern from everyone at the show. Finally, I pinned a sign on my back that read, "Erlend is better, thank you for asking." We were hauling our friend Pat's gelding, Dan, and, since we had room in the trailer, we brought along Elvis, another gelding that Dagren Aarsten was hoping to sell for a client. Trying to get going on Thursday AM brought the usual comedy of errors. Dead battery. Lights on travel trailer not working. Heavy horse trailer window bonking Dagrun on the head and hand. [We will replace the latches] Once we got going the rest of the trip was uneventful. We set up next to the Watanabes where we had a good view of the arena. Solveig was pretty much over the moon after earning an 84 with OH Sadie in the Beginning Driving portion of the Eval. Good girls! I was delighted to see the large turnout - one of the biggest ever. An added pleasure was that so many new folks were showing. Our friend Pat [with the unpronounceable last name] won lots of ribbons with her boy Dan, in her first show ever. Dagrun also brought home many ribbons showing Elvis and Dan. Way cool! Reconnecting with Eike and his wife Suse was a real treat. Everyone loved his very informative clinic. Eike emphasized that Fjord people from other countries were very aware of and interested in what North American Fjord folks were doing and in what NFHR and separate breeders were aiming for in their programs. He also stressed the importance of developing a clear direction for what one wanted to accomplish with the breed. A particular highlight for me was seeing Greta Cook and Betsy Billeter winning first and second in Overall Equation. These women train and show their own horses with great success and deserve to be recognized for their accomplishments. You go girls! And then there was the Red Hat Stick Horse Drill Team. They sported Red and Purple hats and boas while executing complicated drills to thunderous applause! [Sorry not to have brought my red cowgirl hat, I wore red hair curlers instead.] I can hardly wait to see the video. Girls rule! Congratulations to all who took the time and effort to make this event big success. Bye, Peg Knutsen www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord
25th Evaluation etc.
This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's hard to believe that in a little over one month, many of us will be at the NFHR 25th Anniversary in Winona, MN. Just a reminder that the closing date for the NFHR EVALUATION is September 8th. Payment in full with completed and signed entry forms are required for participation and must be received by the NFHR Registrar post-marked no later than September 8th, 2006 (that is TODAY). Forms were sent out but if you misplaced yours, it is available at www.nfhr.com . We are expecting this to be the largest evaluation ever with many performance test. It will be a tremendous opportunity to participate in or watch. Guaranteed you will learn a lot! If your horse has not been microchipped, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or contact Mike May. Things are really coming together. Howard and the Advertising Committee have been hard at work getting an exciting 25th Program ready to meet the printing deadline. The Program will be a collectable of at least 48 pages, including some great article and pictures from the early days; 8 picture pages of the stallions on Stallion Row; a list of the horses participating in the Evaluation; some unbelievable ads; and much more. You will see 30+ Stallions performing in the Stallion Row Presentation. Many will be choreographed routines including offspring. An Evening of Dancing Fjord Horses will demonstrate various disciplines, during beautiful acts choreographed to music. I'm sure we will all appreciate the talent of our wonderful Fjords. Looking forward to meeting new friends and renewing old friendships. See you at the 25th Howard & Sophie Fiedler Green Valley Farm
Re: Libby Evaluation
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I haven't sent our show application in yet because I am waiting to get Woody to sign for his part of the show. Will send asap. Cheers, Peg - Original Message - From: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fjord List" Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Libby Evaluation This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, Just a reminder that if you're planning on attending the Libby Evaluation the deadline was the 15th but I know that Mike is still accepting Preliminary entry forms. If you need forms they can be downloaded at www.pngpg.org or you can e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll be glad to e-mail them to you. Thanks, Sherrie Dayton Sunwood Fjords
Libby Evaluation
This message is from: "Ron & Sherrie Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, Just a reminder that if you're planning on attending the Libby Evaluation the deadline was the 15th but I know that Mike is still accepting Preliminary entry forms. If you need forms they can be downloaded at www.pngpg.org or you can e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll be glad to e-mail them to you. Thanks, Sherrie Dayton Sunwood Fjords
Re: bits allowed for evaluation
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wait . a broken bit and a snaffle bit are describing two different things. A snaffle is a bit that works off a ring or 'D' with no to extremely little leverage. It can have a broken mouthpiece or a mullen mouthpeice, etc. A broken mouth Western bit with leverage from shanks is not a snaffle. So, a snaffle can have a broken mouthpeice, but a bit with shanks cannot be a snaffle even if it has a broken mouthpeice. ~ Meredith Sessoms ~
Nordfjordeid stallion evaluation
This message is from: "Norsk Wood Works" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from Phillip Odden Thanks for correcting me Dagrun. Birgit Mortensen was kind enough to correct me as well. It is interesting to ( try to ) follow the changes in the evaluation system in Norway. Evaluating horses is an evolving process it seems and can not be cast in stone. Even though I missed the stallion show in Nordfjordeid, Else and I are planning to attend the fjord show in Denmark in early August just after the Blue Earth show in Minnesota. Then when the fall colors are most intense we plan to be in Winona for the 25th. Take care, Phil
Judging BDF Nora and Movement in the Evaluation System
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Carol and the list, I have looked at Nora, and I agree that she is a very beautiful mare. And I'm sure her movement is as nice as you claim, and would in no way be considered "exaggerated". Now, I am not an evaluator and have no answer to your question regarding what is considered "exaggerated movement", but I can tell you about what we have seen in the NFHR evaluation system regarding movement. Dan and I both feel that what the evaluators are first and foremost looking for is correctness of movement - do the horses travel in a straight line, not moving base narrow or base wide, not toeing out or in. This is the big reason for the triangle - to see the horses coming and going, back and front. You can also look at the horse across the far side of the triangle to see if they track-up. Recently, Dan and I have tested some of our horses for correctness of travel by walking them in the undisturbed snow to see if they move straight and track up, or over-step at the walk. Next, I think they look at rhythm and regularity - again easily seen on the triangle pattern. This is as far as most the judging gets. Not that the evaluators are not looking at suspension, reach, and quality of trot. I specifically remember at the last Libby evaluation, Wayne Hipsley commenting on the suspension of BDF Obelisk at the trot (and he had it!). Unfortunately for most of the horses out there, they are not shown to their best advantage. I find it very difficult to judge the trot that I am looking for without seeing the horse moving freely - and I'm sure that is true for our evaluators as well. Not that is impossible to see it- but that for most people it is impossible to get it in hand. Personally, I'm glad that the evaluators are looking at correctness of travel - it isn't always an easy thing to be critical of when you have a horse that can "float" and wow you all around an arena. At some point, as riders, drivers, trainers, and horse owners, we have to look beyond the evaluation system - it isn't perfect. It doesn't always look at the quality of movement as much as some of us would like, it doesn't judge temperament, and not all horses get to be evaluated. But what it does - as far as conformation and correctness of travel, as far a the judges evaluating what they can see - is a great place to start. I'm as interested as you to find out about exaggerated movement and in having a better description of the fjord trot - I hope someone with the answers gets on and lets us know. Sincerely, Solveig Watanabe Olivia Farm www.oliviafarm.com
Evaluation System
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Olivia Farm, After reading the last fjord digest I couldn't stay out of the discussion. I'm frustrated that people see the evaluation system as just a form of elitist advertising. Personally, while knowing our system isn't perfect, I am a supporter of our (and any) evaluation system for our breed. It is a huge learning tool for people looking to know more about fjords and breeding options. Also, I would like to point out that I am in favor of Evaluators who are breeders or at least owners of fjords, for they have an interest in preserving the breed like the rest of us. As breeders we are always making what we hope are good breeding choices. Breeding the "best to best" means breeding the best choices to hopefully improve our breed. If you don't choose to evaluate your stock you are basically becoming your own evaluator. Having been to a few evaluations, and other breed inspections, I haven't been privy to any biased judging. Until people show up and really take a look at the system being used - compare the scores and commentary to real horses they have actually seen - I don't think they have room to talk. I'm still in favor of DVD evaluations for people who can't possibly make an actual evaluation (or maybe we need to have more live evaluations in off areas, or in the off season?) because the more horses evaluated, the more education we can provide to the owners, potential owners, or breeders in this country. I don't think there is anyone out there who believes that horses should be overlooked because they haven't been evaluated - but face it, some times as a new horse owner or breeder people need help making informed decisions, and then having scores to look at is a great tool. Otherwise they just have owners and breeders for resources - who can be just as biased (if not more) than our evaluators. We all have our biases, we all like a certain "style" or "look" more than another. Fortunately our breed standard is very flexible and our evaluators take that into consideration - if you look through the record book you will see fjords of all types competing against the breed standard and doing very well! Genetic diversity is important. Breeding horses without conformation faults is important. Keeping our wonderful breed up to the standards is important. As owners and breeders we should be using any tool we can to educate ourselves and other potential fjord owners to keep our breed strong. Solveig Watanabe Olivia Farm www.oliviafarm.com
Evaluation clinics
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, With all of the discussion lately regarding evaluations, I just wanted to let everyone know that Anne Appleby and I will be doing clinics at the PNFPG spring meeting in May specifically focusing on the English and Western tests (can you guess which one is teaching English and which one is teaching Western? You get 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count!). That will be on Sat., May 13. We will also be available for private lessons on Friday afternoon, May 12. You can contact Taffy Mercer for more details. We, along with Jensens, will also be going to the Winona celebration next Oct. and have offered our services there as well, although no specifics for that one have been decided yet. As a side note, I just wanted to comment a bit in regard to RED, WHITE and BLUE Fjords. Lately it seems that there has been an awful lot of discussion about imported Fjords. There have been some dandy ones imported (and a few I have seen that are not so dandy), but just because they came across the big pond does not necessarily mean that they are better than our 'home grown' stock. I sometimes get the feeling that our 'native' Fjords get swept under the carpet just because they were born on American soil. Case in point - Wez and Misha - I don't believe they were imported and look what they have accomplished. Also Jensens Raynor and Samstein and all that they have done. And - oh yes, Dusty. Native Americans - west coast Americans at that. Brings to my mind that old song (somewhat paraphrased) - 'My babies are American made - born and bred in the USA - from their silky long hair to their sexy long legs - my babies are American made'. LOL! Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com
Evaluation Instruction
This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At the evaluation in LaCrosse last year a very detailed instruction session was held before the evaluation started. It was conducted by Phillip Oden and the evaluators. They presented a lot of good info and instructions to help an owner show his horse to the best advantage and get the most out of the evaluation process. I felt at the time that this was a great feature, but as it was given immediately before starting the evaluation, it was coming too late to do anyone much good. If this could be recorded and available to owners looking forward to attending an evaluation, (or submitting a virtual evaluation, which is a whole other topic)it would be very valuable. Ardeth Obenauf The Lazy AO Farm Shelbyville, TN
More Evaluation Discusion
This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Olivia Farm, On a virtual evaluation note - the idea of having an instructional video (like live clinics) is great. I think we should have one even if we don't implement virtual evaluations - for people that can't attend the clinics or need more time to study and prepare than one day. The American Warmblood Society has such a video for inspection participants, but having seen it - I would hope we could do an even better job. I also think we should not give up live evaluations entirely, but use both methods to get more participants. The other thing we shouldn't abandon is the triangle - it shows correctness of travel (coming and going) better than free longing - but the free longing is most useful for athleticism, quality, freedom of movement, etc. As for foal inspections, the idea is sound. Once again, I have concerns. I have mare that was evaluated as a yearling and scored a yellow ribbon - technically not breeding quality. She went on to score a very solid blue as a 4 year old. I have another mare, that with better feed, more muscling, more time under saddle gained almost 10 points (I didn't own either of these mares at the time of their evaluations). I know that the evaluator or judge can only evaluate what they see that day - but that isn't' helpful when what you see is a really unbalanced and silly looking yearling. Do we have to change the system to allow for growth? Have different standards for young-stock? Evaluate our babies before they hit the "ugly" stage? I'm open to suggestions. Shall I open up a new discussion topic? What about judging temperament, like they do in Norway? Isn't that just as important? Again, more food for thought! Enjoying the discussion! Solveig Watanabe Olivia Farm www.oliviafarm.com
Re: The Evaluation Book on NFHR website
This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia We had our first snowfall last night. Only about 4", but heavy so the power went out for about 8 hours. It didn't bother us much as we have the woodstove in the house, and all the horse's tanks were filled and the temp. stayed just above freezing. It being a snowy day today, I spent the morning on the computer and looked at the NFHR website to see what's new. -- The Evaluation Committee's excellent work, "The Evaluation Handbook" was new -- New to me anyway. I hadn't seen it. -- Frankly, I was very impressed. It's a good piece of work. Overall, I liked it a lot. There was one thing, however, that bugged me, and has bugged me in the Breed Standards for many a year now, but no matter how much I griped about it, nothing has changed. -- What I don't like and what I think is misleading and inadequate is the description of what the Evaluators are looking for when a Fjordhorse is trotted out for them. First of all is the description of the trot The Evaluation Handbook says the trot is . . . "A true two-beat gait. Being a powerful gait, the trot demonstrates the characteristic traits of speed, comfort and athletic ability. The trot comes naturally and is the most favored gait of the horse." I honestly think this is an inadequate description and should be evised. -- The trot should be "a powerful gait", but NOT necessarily a speedy gait. -- In my opinion, the trot should clearly show the power of the horse's hindquarters in the way he thrusts forward . . . The way he propels the movement forward. -- It does not need to be fast. It does need to be powerful and forward. -- Forward is not necessarily fast. -- I think this part is very unclear, and would lead some people who do not understand horse movement to simply push their horses for speed. And, I'm sorry, but I don't understand the reference to "COMFORT". I guess it means that the horse should be comfortable to sit to at the trot. -- Yes, this is great, but sometimes a big mover who is a very correct and very good mover is not comfortable to sit to. Not because he's jarring and rough, but simply because he has a very big stride. -- This is the case with some big moving Warmbloods, and there are some Fjords who have this same kind of movement. The last thing that I object to is the mention of "EXTRAVAGANT MOVEMENT" being undesirable. I find this in two places in the Handbook. -- What exactly does the Handbook mean by "extravagant movement."? -- In the beginning of the handbook, the writers explain how breed type and overall conformation is most important, and that "extravagant movement" (they also mention beauty and elegance) should never override the importance of type and conformation. -- I totally agree with this! I agree that no one thing such as a beautiful head, or a huge trot should ever override the importance placed on overall quality and breed type. However, further on in the Handbook where the writers list UNDESIRABLE TRAITS, they again list "extravagant movement". -- I wish somebody would tell me what is meant by this. * Does it mean high knee action like a Hackney, Saddlebred, or Morgan? -- If that's what it means, then I agree. Fjords should not move with high knee action. This is a big fault. Fjords should move like Warmbloods with a long, reaching stride. --- If the Evaluation Committee means high knee action when they speak of "extravagant movement", then they should say it like that. HIGH KNEE ACTION is a fault in Fjords. * Does extravagant movement mean a horse capable of giving a big extension at the trot? -- If that's what the Handbook means then, I beg to differ most vociferously. -- But, again, I do agree that a Fjord with a big extension at the trot should not be forgiven for lack of "breed type" or faults of conformation. The thing is that if a Fjord is capable of doing a big extended trot, and he has all the other qualities . . . . What I want to know is if such a orse --with all the other desirable qualities -- is going to get marked down because he has a big extended trot? -- Is it a fault? -- I sure hope not! I hope the Evaluation Committee can answer this for me. And I also hope that they will revise the Handbook in this regard to make the issue clearer for everybody. Kind Regards, Carol Rivoire
evaluation, Fallbrook, ca
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all. I just wanted to let you all know we went to the evaluation on Friday in Fallbrook, Ca. I brought three very young horses. I brought 2 colts 14 and 15 months old and a young filly 16 months old. I had know idea what I was doing! I was very nervous and did not know what to expect. The Vestlandshest Fjord horse club could not have done a better job in putting on an evaluation. They were extremely helpful. Thurs. night there was a gentleman from the Danish fjord horse registry there who told us what to do and what to expect. His son Kent gave us a demonstration and his daughter translated for us. Phillip Odden and Hank Nors was also there to help us with instruction. They made everyone very comfortable and relaxed to exhibit their horses. Friday was the day of the evaluation. Everyone was so relaxed It was amazing! I was already to exhibit all three of my horse by myself when a wonderful Danish gentleman by the name of Henrick volunteered to help me. He did a great job and I owe him a world of thanks! Thank you Henrick! He is much younger and can run faster. The evaluators took time with each horse to point out the good things and of coarse the things we did not want to hear about our perfect horses. I am glad they took the time out for each horse. It would have been time well spent with or without a horse. The information I learned about the fjord horse will make me a better breeder and owner. I need to thank all of the people who participated in putting on the evalutaion It was very obvious that everyone worked very hard to make it a very relaxed and educational event. I hope to see everyone at up and coming fjord events. I need to also say one more thing! I meet the nicest people there. There is something to be said about fjord owners! WOW, what a great bunch of people. Kathy
Re: LaCrosse Evaluation
This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd like to add to Pat's post and congratulate any thank everyone involved in running the LaCrosse Evaluation. Everything detail was handled, the hospitality was great and the evaluation ran like clockwork. Thanks especially to Phillip Oden and Linda Syverson-Kerr for all their hard work. AO The Lazy AO Farm Shelbyville, TN
Re: La crosse evaluation
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Since no one has stepped up to report anything on the Lacrosse Evaluation I would like to do so. First I would like to congratulate Linda Syverson-Kerr and John Gurtner. If they completed their driving tests like they did their conformation, riding and draft they would have received their S1 - G1. I am certain they did as Spruce Hill Markus was right on the money I believe this would make him the first S1 -G1 completed in ONE Evaluation. Markus was bred by Andrew Hinrich's and is by Sven II. Bottom side goes back to Anvil's Jon. Unrau's breeding. Linda and Markus has shared a great partnership and it was nice to see them with John Gurtner and - and what a combined team. !! Fair Acres Ole achieved his Gold 2 - going this year for his advanced riding and draft. True to form Ole did his job and gave his big big heart to the work put in front of him, Ole is surely "one of the greats". He has the stallion presence - but the manners of a kind gentleman. Patti Jo has herself a winner in anyone's book. You cannot beat his disposition and willingness to do as asked. I will once again say if you want disposition - call Patti Jo for a booking to Oleyou'll have it hands down. For those of you familiar with the Solar son I presented for Susan Crawford he got approved with a 9 on his head, 8.5 on neck and body and an 8.5 on type and an 8.5 on overall. Many of you do not know his history and I feel it is important to tell it. As it is unique. When this very wonderfully bred horse was a yearling he contracted EHV or more commonly known as Rhino. It can come in many forms - usually you all would see it in respiratory or in a pregnant mare abortive. In rare cases it will go neurological. For Eiken Var it went the worse. He was actually paralyzed in all four, according to the documentation from the U of Illinois - he should have died. Our Fjords are tuff ones and all he retained from it was an uneasy movement behind of which he only received a 4 in his walk and a 5 in his trot. Because of his outstanding conformation he still took score enough to receive a good red - and I was proud to be on the end of the lead rope to get it for him. Last year I presented his daughter, SFF Ebba and she received a blue with a 8.75 in the walk and a 8.25 at the trot. - she also earned her S-white and G white at this years evaluation for owners Deb and Gary Gunther and rider Bambi Bays. Somehow along the line I've been fortunate to have stood in front of 15 blue level conformation horses, I was just as proud, maybe more so to take the red with Eiken Var. He is 11 years old and not been off his home farm but twice, once to go to the U of Illinois and once to the MWFHC winter meeting clinic held many years ago in Galena. I Only had him since May 14th - he had no formal training and he also was a gentleman to handle and work with. Lastly, Peggy Spear brought her beautiful Blue Bird Lane Sparrow and took a very honest and solid blue. "Sparrow" is by Gjest and showed his great presence and heritage. Once again showing the Gjest line is here to stay and the foundation he brought to the Fjord breed is without question correct, with high quality and important. Pat Holland
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just want to tell everyone that I went to a meeting about the Evaluation in Fallbrook, CA and it sounds like it is going to be a lot of fun. Beginners are welcome. The Vestlandshest USA Club are working very hard to make it a very friendly fun experience for all. Hurry and get you registration in! Hope to see you all there. Katherine Kramer 23355 Modoc Ct Perris, CA 92570 951-657-2505
