Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Internet Explorer 8
Vayu Robins wrote, when finding that an existing HTML site was reported to not render correctly in this week's IE8 release candidate: Does anybody have any comments on this? Should I download the IE8 version and find the problem? I am on a mac, using Parallels Desktop, Windows XP. I've heard other reports of newer HTML clients not supporting existing websites, but I haven't tracked the pre-release details. Best resource I know of for user-experience changes is the IE team's own weblog: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/ That said, it may be a client/developer contractual agreement about which browsers to test against. If they specified IE6 and IE7 for the Microsoft-branded browsers, then it doesn't seem quite fair to suddenly add another version (particularly a pre-release) to that matrix. But if the required clientside runtimes were not specified in the original contract, then that could make things stickier... it sounds like they accepted the project, then wanted to make changes after the project was "finished". Tricky problem! :( jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] motif ad kit not working
Another path: Get the text from the error dialog, and do a quoted "phrase" search on unique text within it. (Assuming you see a similar error text in more than one browser, one way it can be produced is if calls for external JavaScript libraries cannot be successfully resolved.) jd/adobe From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Bill Jones [bjo...@backemarketing.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:56 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] motif ad kit not working Have you checked out their web site for an upgrade? On 1/22/09 10:48 AM, "Gustavo Duenas" wrote: > Hi Coders, I've recently downloaded motif ad kit for the cs3 intel > macs and now it is given me a JAVASCRIPT odd error..something like > motifToolKit and something else is nota function. > > Do you know what is going on > > I Have that installed in the flash 8 but since I've migrated to > cs3... > > > > > Regards, > > > > Gustavo Duenas > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _ Bill Jones Interface Developer Backe Digital Brand Marketing 35 Cricket Terrace Center Ardmore, PA 19003 Voice: 610-896-9260 x280 Fax: 610-896-9242 bjo...@backemarketing.com "If you want to go forward, click Backe." ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] a historical question
> Several years ago (in Flash 8, I'm almost positive) someone (Colin Moock??) > came up with a/several > algorithms that grew vines on the stage, discreetly, wildly, minimally, > extravagantly. I've been looking > for it/them for weeks and can't find them. > If anybody remembers what I'm talking about and can give me a nudge toward > where I might find > it/them, I'd be deeply grateful. Maybe http://www.google.com/search?q="grant+skinner"+trees ? If not, then search terms like "flash l-systems" or "flash lindenmayer" might pull up useful resources. jd/adobe From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul Freedman [p...@freedmania.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:27 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] a historical question Several years ago (in Flash 8, I'm almost positive) someone (Colin Moock??) came up with a/several algorithms that grew vines on the stage, discreetly, wildly, minimally, extravagantly. I've been looking for it/them for weeks and can't find them. If anybody remembers what I'm talking about and can give me a nudge toward where I might find it/them, I'd be deeply grateful. Apparently, it wasn't Mr. Moock, by the way. I've rooted all the way through his sandbox. Lots of fun; no dice. Besides, I don't just want to enjoy them, I'd like to use them, if they're available. Thanks, Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Whatever happened to C++ conversion?
These search terms don't seem to turn up much: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22scott+peterson%22+adobe+compile+actionscript&as_qdr=m3 http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alabs.adobe.com+quake (etc) I know some of the subsequent talk may have played it up, but that was definitely more a technology demo than a product demo. Maybe MAX08 timeframe, if there's any news coming. jd/adobe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ben gomez farrell Sent: Sun 8/31/2008 10:06 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Whatever happened to C++ conversion? Hey, I'm on the papervision3D list, and was just discussing what physics engines to use. A guy named Andy on there was talking about how Box2DAS3 is great, and orginally started out as a C++ project. Box2D then went on to becoming Bullet, a 3D engine, and Box2DAS3 hasn't followed yet. Then I thought back to Scott Petersens C++ to AS3 conversion utility they were demoing at MAX last year. If I remember right, they took the Quake code and ported it over to AS3. Does anybody know the status on that? Can you and I use this conversion stuff today? thanks! ben ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Player security hole
Dave Segal wrote: Does anyone have more info on this? What is the flaw and what can we do to protect our users? http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/146343/new_adobe_flaw_being_ used_in_attacks_says_symantec.html The Flash Player Security Team had an interim response up yesterday (when Symantec's release hit), and a more full response this morning: http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt The issue is still being researched, but as the security team says, this appears to be a known issue, already addressed in the current Player 9.0.124 (and the Astro preview). It usually takes a few days to completely nail down all variables within a report however, so keep an eye on the security blog for best info. I haven't gone into this issue deeply yet myself, but some press reports yesterday said a malformed SWF was hosted on two servers in China, and that there were HTML injections into many mainstream websites to refer to those two SWF. However, I've read that those two Chinese addresses were already taken offline, meaning that the webpage references won't resolve, and that this route to trouble has already been effectively closed. That's just my understanding, though, and would need first-hand confirmation to be sure. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] FPS limit of flash player inside browser?
Sander Schuurman wrote: Just came across some limitations on the fps of a flash movie inside a browser. I've read on the internet some messages about the limit to be at around 60? But my tests got stuck at around 33 fps, it begins at around 57, but drops within a few seconds to around 33... Anyone can shine a light on this subject? Depends on the browser. Different browsers choke plugins in different ways. Two links: http://graphics-geek.blogspot.com/2008/04/off-bubblemark.html http://www.kaourantin.net/2006/05/frame-rates-in-flash-player.html Film is at 24fps... Disney animation, so compelling, was two-up, or twelve frames per second. Most of the "bloated flash" or "flash cpu" complaints out there are (I think) due to background ads with greedy framerates. It's best to be polite, and only take the processor cycles you really need. Others may be trying to use that processor too. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] search engine optimization for flash sites
First step: Figure out how people will likely try to find your website in the search engines. (You will *always* remain invisible on search term "flower delivery", for instance... far too much competition. You might be able to place on "'flower delivery' 'san francisco' haight-ashbury", though.) Once you know the plausible queries on which you can compete, make sure that your HTML markup contains the proper clues (TITLE, metadata, body text containing your term), then make a spider-guiding sitemap: http://sitemaps.org/ ... and after that, work on getting inbound links whose anchor text reflects the search terms on which you wish to compete. (Inbound links do a lot for final search-engine placement... search up "talentless hack" or "miserable failure" to learn more about this.) The "binary SWF" line is a red herring. Google has pulled text out of SWF for years, just like it does for HTML. It won't know that a picture of a rose is a rose -- whether in SWF or JPG -- unless you provide those alphanumerics somewhere else in the presentation. Choosing your target search terms is the hard part, and the one which most clients do not understand. A small business finds it hard to break through all the noise and gaming of the search engines today, but targeting the plausible search terms on which you can realistically compete is the very first step. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Real Player 11 messing up Flash application UI
Andy Herrman wrote: For those who don't know, Real Player 11 (in beta right now) added a feature that lets users download videos embedded in flash applications (like youtube, google video, etc). It does this by adding an entry to Flash's rightclick menu and by having a mini-toolbar appear at the top left of the flash movie when it loads and when the mouse goes over the movie. Does anyone know what method it uses to determine if a SWF is used to play a video? It seems to think that our Flash application serves video even though it doesn't, and the toolbar thingy they're adding is showing up over par of the UI and could confuse users. I haven't been able to find any documentation about how they're detecting it. Anyone played around with this yet? Are there any known methods to prevent that toolbar from appearing? I've been asking the Real folks for solid documentation too. Here are the best current resources I know of: http://rws-blog.rhapsody.com/realplayer/ http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=1051 http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.cfm/2007/8/1/real-bug http://blog.jaycharles.net/?p=9 jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Player and IT Security Policies
[Hey! You crossposted to multiple groups! Now all the volunteer listmasters will have to deal with busywork when someone hits "reply all!" :( ] Chris Velevitch wrote: > A large corporate/government organisation's IT department has refused > to update the flash player due "IT security policy". > > Any ideas on why they would do that and what can be done to convince > them to change? First, find out more... knowing the most about what's driving that decision can give you the most leverage to change it. Some things I'd try to learn: -- current major version they're installing (sometimes they approve new software only once every few years) -- whether they're currently up-to-date on the minor version (in such cases security fixes are okay) -- what their actual policies on updates and security fixes are -- how they're handling other updates, like Adobe Reader or anti-viral -- what is it that makes them think they should not keep their Internet software current No answer, I know, but a path...? jd/adobe ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] (OT) fscommand and air
I don't have the full thread here at the moment, but if no one has mentioned Gregg Wygonik's BlazePDF work, for creation of PDF files from within SWF, then here's the link: http://www.blazepdf.com/faq.html jd/adobe ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] (OT) fscommand and air
ah, so is this "Does anyone know how I can produce PDF files locally with the Adobe Integrated Runtime?" If so, then no, I don't... the current pre-releases can invoke an installed Adobe Reader to display a PDF, but I don't recall anyone seeing a way to produce PDFs locally. If you can handle a server connection then ColdFusion can produce PDF, that's the closest solution I see so far. jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] (OT) fscommand and air
> Curious, does anyone know anything about the capabilities of fscommand in > AIR applications? "FSCommand" was originally for the plugin to communicate with its host browser. Then later it was extended a bit to control properties of Projectors. The current externalInterface communicates with the hosting browser today. But there isn't a hosting browser in AIR. What would you expect it to do, what are you hoping to accomplish...? jd/adobe ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Hebrew input
Pieter Michels wrote: [Any tips on getting Hebrew to display in Adobe Flash Player?] Not many, I'm afraid. Right-to-left scripts turn out to be more complex than might be anticipated. Most applications rely on system-level support, which is okay for your own machine, but harder when playing on other peoples machines. Two bits: o Player Product Manager Emmy Huang has announced that right-to-left scripts will be one focus of work in the next generation of Adobe Flash Player: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/05/swf9_docs_bi-di.cfm (lots of links here to background information) o Work has been proceeding on Flaraby, but I haven't investigated its implementation myself: http://www.arabicode.com/flaraby/ jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] WebServices support in AS3/FLCS3
Update: Getting info from Flash Authoring was difficult because much of the team was travelling to Tokyo for customer visits. I'll expand the request list tonight. The forums links and technote statements were useful, thanks. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] WebServices support in AS3/FLCS3
Enrique Chávez wrote: What happened with the webservices classes in AS3/Flash CS3? i can't believe they are gone. I asked Product Manager Richard Galvan about this earlier this week, and I'll ping him today face-to-face to confirm. Here's where I'd expect info to appear first, if it isn't already among the technotes somewhere: http://blogs.adobe.com/rgalvan/ I suspect that it's something like not all AS2 routines yet adapted for the tighter ECMAScript in AS3, but even if so this info should still already be available in a FAQ or other searchable resource. I'm sorry for the hassle in the meantime, but I've got an action item to pursue this and get it publicly resolved. (I'll be on vacation next week; if it's not addressed by then please feel free to title a thread "JD Flakes Out!" on Flashcoders the week of the 16th to nudge my memory, thanks ;-) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] copying text to clipboard?
Corban Baxter wrote: Hey guys a client is wanting me to create a combobox that has a button below it that can copy text to the clipboard. Can flash access the clipboard? Other folks already presented info on setting the clipboard contents. (I'm assuming that "flash" here means Adobe Flash Player, rather than the visual authoring environment.) Why can we write but not read the clipboard? Mainly for security... it's conceivable that someone could have credit-card numbers or other sensitive info on their clipboard, and so clipboard contents cannot silently be sent back to advertisers' servers. There's a conceivable risk of "clipboard spamming", where someone could put their advertising message on your clipboard, but fortunately we haven't seen anyone desperate enough to pollute computers this way. That's for in-browser use. In desktop use, through the beta Adobe Integrated Runtime, we're clearly working at a higher permission level (compared to just visiting the world's websites in a document browser), and so there's full clipboard support, drag'n'drop with desktop applications, and other standard application communication mechanisms. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 over 400 MB! and 25 minutes to install!
JulianG wrote: How come Flash CS3 Installer is over 400 MB, when Flash 8 was only 110 MB?? One of the big contributors is the .PSD import... it essentially contains the Photoshop rendering engine. Color management, type libraries, things like that were other big additions. That said, I'm in a meeting right now where we're talking about improving the installation experience for the next generation... the installation *is* pretty big right now, and we're looking for ways to provide similar capabilities at lower cost in the future. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 8 slow animation online, but not local??
Jay Carlson wrote: so I've made a short commercial using a lot of keyframing with text and such that has embedded audio to go with it. I have the audio aligned with the text and it works fine when I test the movie and also when I publish it. but when I stick it on the web, the animation is slower than the text and it gets off. it's almost like the publishing didn't work correctly. is there a way to correct this so the audio is lined up? why would it be slow in a browser and not on the published file? it can't be connection because I'm running some nice fast internet. I'm not sure of the situation there, but browsers definitely impose their own overhead... people regularly see faster performance in Projectors, for similar content on a similar machine, than they do in any one browser, much less the entire set of browsers that your audience might use. Have you tested that file on a slower computer yet? One mistake I see lots of people make is to set a high framerate, in hopes of making things smoother. What this actually does, though, is play faster on faster machines, and slower on slower machines. Setting a reasonable framerate (like, say, the 24-30 fps that movies and TV use) means that more machines will play that content at the same speed. Other possible factors for slower browser performance include the surrounding HTML... most browsers are configured to support only two network requests per domain at a time. If you're streaming in a SWF, then any spacer GIFs or stylesheets or external .JS files or other material can also make things noticeably slower than when playing cached local content. There could be a couple of different causes at play here, but the above are two of the big general issues. D'you think either might be affecting you here...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Input field bug in firefox when embedding swf withWMODE as transparent og opaque
Re: Some version of Firefox apparently stops ALT-key characters entered in SWF textfields when WMODE is used. That might be true. First step would be the Firefox documentation -- check OS & browser version against known issues, and either ask your audience to upgrade or just stopping trying to be so fancy in the frail and varied browsers. It's also possible that this particular content triggers an odd failure in a particular browser brand/OS/version combo -- making a very simple HTML file, as well as a barebones SWF, and testing it on different machines with different keyboards would be the fastest way to detect this. jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] wmode performance headache
I don't have full details about changes in each browser version. There are two performance hits described here: (a) running things in a browser (Projectors (and presumably Apollo) are fastest; different browsers have different strategies in allocating processor cycles to plugins); (b) piping the plugin's content to the browser for compositing, rather than directly-to-screen (WMODE). If your tests show that a particular version of Microsoft Internet Explorer performs much worse than other browsers do, then a good first step is to generalize the observation... confirm it with basic barebones SWF/HTML (no plugin-in-DIV, no rapidfire messaging etc), and confirm it on multiple machines. I haven't heard many people previously report "IE freezes w/WMODE" -- if that were *always* the case then we'd see more of an uproar on the lists. That's what makes me wonder whether there's a particular dependency in this case, that gives you dramatically worse performance than what others see. But there *will* be a performance degradation when playing within a browser, and when asking the browser to blend the plugin's content into its own rendering engine. It shouldn't cause an outright freeze, but there will indeed be a cost to performance. jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] AS3.0 and C++
Bharat Varma wrote: I am developing an application where I would like to use Flex to talk to some dlls / exe installed on the local machine, through a browser. The DLLs (and or) EXE will be installed using an installer [snip] Are you asking "How can a SWF in a browser talk to my native-code libraries installed on the viewing machine?" If so, then here are possibilities: (a) use a completely remote connection, with the in-browser SWF talking to your server, and your on-machine DLLs also getting messages from your server (it sounds silly, but people have used this for years); (b) if your DLL can be invoked by the same webpage holding the SWF, then you can use ExternalInterface-type of work to have the browser's JavaScript intermediate the messages between the two codebases; (c) making a standalone application, rather than an in-browser page, can help you avoid the required browser sandboxing... Flash makes Projectors, and other firms host deeper native shells (Zinc, eg). The Apollo angle I'm not really sure of, because we're still in alpha and local-access is such a hot issue. I've seen some example where people use a local server as the intermediary between processes, but I think we need to sit and wait a bit, to see the options the final 1.0 delivery enables. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] IE7/Flash Player Problem
After reading the description, and the "intermittent problems, 50 messages fine, 1 message wonky" part, I wondered if these might be rapidfire messages in this implementation. (Browsers have varied in their latency in the past.) jd/adobe ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] swfs in pdfs
Nimrod Huberman wrote: > I don't know your specific goal Neither do I. My email is a little disrupted right now, and I came in at Dave Watt's reply. I saw questions about whether anyone else is doing things with SWF in PDF, but got confused at the objection to using Adobe Reader. I'm not sure what the goal is, what the question is. (SWF-in-PDF background: Adobe announced it a few years ago, but on the Macromedia side I was always confused about what they were doing, and how they were doing it. I've tried to get this clarified since the merger, without much luck. The best story I received verbally was that Reader used the ability to play QuickTime to render SWF as well, which wouldn't be very functional because the version of Macromedia Flash Player inside the Apple QuickTime engine was not updated for quite some time. On the other hand, post-merger, there's obvious incentive to connect things together better, although I haven't seen any announcements for SWF-in-PDF during the Acrobat 8 timeframe. One other wrinkle is that PDFs will be able to invoked alongside SWF in the Adobe Apollo project, currently in public alpha -- it may be possible to achieve the goal by alternate means. Anyway, that's the general background info I have, but having a clearer idea of the question could help get better replies.) jd/adobe ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] jpeg 2000 compression
Hi, sorry I'm coming in the middle of the thread, but there's a little bit on the JPEG 2000 format in the docs, in a video connection, but I don't see other references there: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww.adobe.com+inurl%3Aflash+%22jpeg+2000%22 For the JPEG 2000 method itself, the Photoshop team is considering dropping support... context here: http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/04/jpeg_2000_do_yo.html jd/adobe ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Javascript SetVariable -- when does Flash see thechange?
The browser is a big variable in latency of message-passing. You can confirm that many SWF will run at different rates in different browsers. The NPRuntime API is now implemented pretty well in today's popular browsers, but the size and timing of permissible messages may vary among implementations. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/plugins/npruntime.html In this case, though, it looks like you're using the old "javascript:" pseudo-URL, and then polling immediately for a result. It may be better to wait a frame or two, or an interval, before checking whether the plugin-to-browser and browser-to-plugin communication cycles have finished. I don't know how many browsers would stop the plugin's execution during the attempted cross-app communication. jd/adobe ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash 8 Trial
Adrian Lynch wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but I can't find any Flash trials on adobe.com. > Are any available? My apologies... it looks like many of the older trial versions were removed from the main listing when the CS3 announcements arrived, but new trials of individual tools won't be on the site for a few weeks yet. I've escalated this internally, but have not yet received staff reply. Last week I heard that you can still access some of the older Macromedia Studio trials by going through the link for FreeHand MX, but I have not confirmed today that this path is still available. Worth a shot...? jd/adobe ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] The great CS3 Swindle
Mike Mountain wrote: Thanks for the response John, please don't take this personally, - but I suspect the legitimate reason is "because we can" ... and if that's the case, then I'd like to see those decisionmakers defend it in open debate. But it's difficult for me to see intentional discrimination as the root cause... doesn't match up with what I see of people here. The DNA is towards global participation, so I suspect there are real constraints in the way of flat pricing. I've still got the action item to keep pressing for public explanations about why software companies show such similar disparities across regions. Such a mystery does no-one any good. The ZDNet/CNET articles today likely caught org-wide attention, so I've got some more ammo this week ;-) cu, jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] The great CS3 Swindle
Mike Mountain wrote: For those prices it would literally be cheaper to fly out to the US to buy it. Adobe has FUBAR'd these prices - we demand an explanation - but who from? For what it's worth, I had been pushing before launch for better information about the reasons for regional pricing disparities, but I did not succeed at doing so. I suspect there are reasonable explanations, because Macromedia, Adobe, and most other software houses show similar differences across national boundaries, but I don't yet know the authoritative reasons myself, sorry. (My suspicion is that it's due to decisionmaking being both at the central and at the regional level... I think each region is responsible for its own prices and these are shaped, but not dictated, by the main office, so there's no single owner of pricing worldwide... that's just my best current guess of why I haven't been able to gain traction in getting this documented, though.) What I'm doing now is trying to collect similar reactions for my partners, to show that this is indeed a frequently-asked question, and one that deserves a definitive explanation on the Adobe site. (The FlashCoders web archive is not viewable to non-subscribers, so I'm snipping threads to give a flavor of the whole.) So... my apologies for the confusion. I think it's definitely a legitimate question, and one that I'm working to get addressed. tx, jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Differences in Mozilla vs IE player...why?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I've noticed is that an iidentical flash app played in both Firefox and IE doesn't always play the same. That's true... browsers differ in how they allocate CPU cycles to plugins. They don't really document this well, either. One extreme is Safari, which has (still?) choked off cycles for background tabs. They each vary, though. I'm not a C coder but to me, it would make sense to make it a HUGE priority to ensure both versions of the plugin perform identically, Like Geoff said, whether the Windows Player is wrapped as ActiveX or NSPlugin doesn't change the renderer itself... same code. But the potential performance does vary with the browser and with the rest of the current environment, depending on what that configuration allows the Player to do. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] flash / ajax
bruce wrote: looking at implementing an ajax widget and wanted to know if anybody's combined ajax and flash to be able to implement a cross-domain solution? I don't know of any, but I do know that this would be of interest to many: http://ajaxian.com/archives/current-concerns-with-ajax Firefox is currently specifying a similar method of server consent to foreign requests, but a small invisible SWF with a JavaScript API seems like it would be very attractive to many developers for quite awhile ahead. Feeding dynamic text from JavaScript to SWF to text-to-speech screenreaders is another utility that seems like it would have high demand. Dojo already uses invisible SWF for local storage, so there's a model people have already been taught to accept. I don't have a lead on an implementation, but if one is developed, I suspect it may be advantageous to many. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player and pop-up blockers
Perdue, Blake wrote: We've gotten a lot of complaints lately that popup windows spawned by a SWF are getting blocked by pop-up blockers, even though they are user initiated. It seems the newer flash players (v8, v9) or perhaps the new pop-up blockers (Firefox, Google, etc) have changed the way they operate - this didn't used to be a problem for us. Yes, this can be a problem -- different browser extensions work in different ways, and respond to different JavaScript events, so it's hard to make a one-size-fits-all solution. One bit of consolation: someone who installs a rogue window-blocker will be visiting more sites than just yours, so they would become familiar with any feedback the blocker and/or browser offer about windows the browser didn't open. Another tack you might try, to give visitors consistent feedback about what their browser isn't doing, might be to try a localConnection test from the original SWF to the popup SWF, after waiting a suitable interval... if the second SWF never opened, then the first SWF can advise that there may be a window-blocker in the visitor's browser. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] FLV issue within IE7?
Charles Parcell wrote: Pathing should not even be an issue. As I stated in my post it works perfectly well via IE6. Caching might also possibly explain the difference...? But in the line of thought... I am building an absolute path to the FLV. As part of this, I make a call to a JS function using ExternalInterface() to get the URL of the page. Hav eyou tested whether the browser returns the expected result for the path request? (Script/browser intercommunication has definitely varied by the browser in the past.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] IE 7 and ExternalInterface.call()
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that there has to be an actual "click" executed in the swf -- just pressing a spacebar or hitting enter doesn't seem to do the trick... This almost sounds like the "Click to Activate" change introduced in Windows XP Service Pack 2 for HTML files which themselves include the OBJECT/EMBED tags...? http://www.adobe.com/devnet/activecontent/ jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] layering Flash over QT/WM
Josh Santangelo wrote: Has anyone seen examples of Flash running within a browser and being layer over top of Quicktime and/or Windows Media plugins? I can get it to work with Flash over Windows Media in IE/Win, but no other plugin/browser/os combinations seem to work. Plugins usually render directly to the screen, because this gives the best performance. That's why they render on top. If you try to layer two plugins like this, then they'll both fight for the same pixels in the screen. Most browsers these days, at least on Mac and Win, also let plugins pipe their content into the browser's own rendering buffer. This lets you layer and do background-transparency. Plugins which can take advantage of this behavior usually do so through a "WMODE" instruction in the HTML markup which invokes the plugin. I don't know the status of QuickTime and Windows Media Player for this type of work... from what you describe, it sounds like WMP in IE can layer like Flash, but I'm not sure if QuickTime ever implemented WMODE-style redirects. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] LocalConnection Issue - Flash 8 + IE
Chris Griffith wrote: I¹m working on a site where I have a nav which contains login information about a user that needs to communicate with a body/content SWF in the page. Basically, when I come across the need for the login info, I send a message to the nav which in turn sends a message back with an object. This works flawlessly on Firefox for PC and all the Mac browsers I¹ve tried it on. It works about 2% of the time on IE (6 & 7) running both Flash player 8 and 9. I¹ve read some theories that it might have something to do with the SWFObject, but nothing very clear beyond that. If you do a basic testing SWF, with basic in-page OBJECT/EMBED and a simple in-line piece of JavaScript to catch the messages, then does the symptom change? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Laszlo
I'm not in a position to have an opinion (everyone would think I'm tainted ;-) , but I just made an interesting observation, when comparing the size of the mailing list for creating Laszlo, to that of the mailing list for using it: http://www.openlaszlo.org/pipermail/laszlo-dev/ http://www.openlaszlo.org/pipermail/laszlo-user/ The mailing list volume among people *using* the system has dropped to 44K in Jan07, compared to 149K in Jan06. Similar year-to-year declines are seen in prior months. But the mailing list volume for *creating* the system itself has increased, to 330K in Jan 07, from 139K in Jan 06, with slightly smaller increases in the preceding three months. When the two lists started, in late 2004, users outnumbered its developers by 2:1 or 3:1. During 2005 the two mailing lists grew to about equal conversational levels, but during 2006 the conversation about using the tool dropped to less than half that of writing the tool. During the past month, conversation about writing Laszlo was about eight times the level of people actually using it. I don't know of a similar chart of conversational levels for FlashCoders, but there's one for FlexCoders: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ Here, there were 3200 full messages in Jan07, compared to 1300 in Jan06. The highwater mark was in June-Aug 06 (after the release of Flex 2) with about 3600 separate messages per month. For the past three months conversational volume has been about twice that of the year-ago levels. How people talk about something doesn't mean everything about a technology, but it's one indicator of how people regard things... take it for what it's worth. Pretty startling changes, though. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 9 Public Alpha stability issues
Frederico Ferro Schuh wrote: Do you have any huge images in your project? I have a 1600x1200 jpeg image that represents the track. Maybe that has something to do with the crashes, since I don't remember having any problems when I was just prototyping the car's physics with no assets at all. That sounds like a reasonable candidate... when decompressed into working memory that's about 6 megabytes, and the sudden memory request could destabilize a browser or system. I realize that this is an intermittent symptom on that configuration, but if you temporarily replace the large image with a much smaller one, then does your mean time between failures suddenly decrease...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: NetStream and Flash Player 9
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant the NetStream class in Flash. As in: var my_nc:NetConnection = new NetConnection(); my_nc.connect(null); var my_ns:NetStream = new NetStream(my_nc); my_video.attachVideo(my_ns); my_ns.play("video1.flv"); // copied from help files Are you asking "What causes might stop all my network requests in ActionScript?" If so, then have you isolated the browsers yet, and tested known-to-be-good apps from others in that browser? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] NetStream and Flash Player 9
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I have the Flash Player 9 plugin, NetStream stops working, videos don't play. It doesn't play even when I test movies within Flash. I've seen a few other people with the same problem. Am I doing something wrong or does FP9 not support NetStream? When I do a Google search I see a couple of different businesses called "netstream". If you're asking whether others can view the Flash work at http://netstreams.com/ in Adobe Flash Player 9, then I can. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Demystify the Flash player installation & updating for me
Merrill, Jason wrote: How does the Flash autoupdate work? Never quite understood that. I ran the uninstaller, went to a Web page with the adobe player, and it seems to instantly have the Flash player installed back in again - so I assumed it was the autoupdater - unless the uninstaller I ran silently failed or something... If you're in Internet Explorer, then you may need to restart the system to actually complete the removal of an ActiveX Control... that's the way the Microsoft architecture works, and this might be the cause of this part of the description. The update mechanism itself is a notification service -- just lets you know that a new version is available -- doesn't install without your express permission. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/help10.html I cannot see my Flash player 9 object like my co-worker can by going to Internet Explorer 6:Tools > Settings> Internet Options > View Objects. I'm not good on this part, sorry... I keep Internet Explorer installed but I'm not sure what they expose where, or how different installations might show things in different interfaces. Maybe someone else has a hypothesis on this part...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Adobe download site slow
Joe Cutting wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the Adobe download site being very slow? I've tried it several times in the last week from two different locations (in the UK) and it never really gets above 5k/sec (on my 500k/sec line). This is a particular problem with clients using IE who are trying to install the Flash Player. All they see is a empty box with no indication that the download is happening at all. Firefox is no faster but at least you see the download progress so you know something is happening. I don't have full information here, but I do know that folks on the web team want to document what's going on when this symptom occurs. There have been improvements made to fix some of the causes of slow site response, but there are additional scenarios where we still need to remove impediments to normal speed. I don't have full background info here myself, but I do know that there's ongoing work in this area, and that people involved do want to get public status info up soon. I hope this (weak) context helps in your own daily contacts a bit...? tx, jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe: December 2006 Flash Player Penetration Numbers
Daniel Thompson wrote: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration. html Will this be updated for Q4 soon? Can I get a ballpark date? I'm trying to make a plan for migration and would like some Flash Player 9 trending in there. If there is any other data out there about adoption rate, current penetration, etc, that would be helpful. I'm not sure when we should expect the December consumer audit to be published. Usually it's a 6-8 week turnaround from the consumers to the audit bureau to Adobe to the website, but the year-end holidays could play hob with the schedule. If you're basing any business decision on that mid-September consumer testing, then, like Greg, I'd recommend Emmy Huang's context on slight timing differences in that cycle (released June 28 2006; audit mid-September; about ten weeks' worth of installations): http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/11/flash_player_st.cfm I do have some untestable anecdotal information atop the above audits... completed installations per day (as measured by server pings at a Player's first startup) have been consistently in the 5-6 million per day range, except for early December when there was a sharp spike in boosting us into the 9M/day range (presumably from the casting-couch scandal in China, search term "zhang yu"). The early moves by MySpace and other sites to Adobe Flash Player 9 moved the adoption cycle forward a little bit (MySpace counts 90M members, less than three weeks' worth of normal Player distribution), but adoption has also generally been faster as well. Are you the decisionmaker on this one, or are you having to persuade others too? If the latter, then are there specific arguments you're running up against? tx, jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Mark Anders source files from FOTB
Janis Radins wrote: I was wondering if anyone managed to find Mark Anders source files from FOTB. I'm guessing it might be after the turn of the year. Mark's office is dark right now, and many people are taking extended vacations this week, so the main website may not have changes until the new year. But keep an eye on Mark's weblog, too, because he may decide to self-publish. http://www.andersblog.com/ jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Procedure for Reporting/Confirming Flash bugs to Adobe?
Dennis Landi wrote: What is the correct procedure for reporting and confirming possible bugs in Flash? First check whether other people can produce the problem from the steps that you provide... mailing lists are a good way to check. http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish will still bring you to the new Macromedia products section of the Adobe site (pages will likely change after the next major releases). http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html Confirming your steps-to-repro with others first is the best first step, though... assures that the issue isn't misidentified. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Outlook and Flash
Merrill, Jason wrote: I know with the security of the Flash player, it's probably not possible or easy (unless MS has some sort of webservice for Exchange servers built in or something) to grab a person's Outlook Calendar or Task list - but what about a Flash desktop application - is that information available through some API? Can a third party app for Flash be used to call an application which will retrieve this data? I know there would be security issues on that too, but I was tasked to investigate this. I might have some resources to write that application, but wouldn't know what the possibilities would be on the Flash end. Anyone done any integration with Outlook before? Thanks. Microsoft does offer Outlook Webmail, and this browser UI does show contact & scheduling info. I don't know if it can directly serve things other than full HTML pages, but if you own both ends of the transaction then it should be possible to put a screenscraping proxy server in the middle. For "third party app", a lot depends on the native-code shell you use around the Adobe Flash Player wrapper. The default Projector in the Macromedia Flash Professional authoring tool is a simple shell without deep access to system-level calls, but third-party shells can expose any local API they wish. I'm not sure how well MS Outlook local data is exposed, however, or even whether that information is stored on the local machine. Maybe the Microsoft docs would have more, on which ways they expose Outlook's Calendar or Tasks to alternative shells...? Once that is known, it can help figure things out on the client end. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] DHTML menu rolling over on top of flash possible?
"The answer is WMODE". (Different browsers support it to different degrees, although they've come to pretty close convergence the past few years. adobe.com has a special sniffer for Safari, from what I've been told.) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Acronym for Actionscript/Flash/Flex
chris daubney wrote: - is it a Flash project? - is it an Actionscript project? - is it a Flex project? - what do we say when the Flash/Flex IDE are out of the picture but still work with Actionscript using other tools? I like using verbs... "delivered as SWF", "created with Adobe Flex Builder", "runs in the Adobe Flash Player". People argue more about nominalizations than they do about verb phrases. If we actually needed an acronym I'd go for something like MXYZPTLK, but maybe that's just me ;-) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player penetration
Perdue, Blake wrote: Does Adobe, or anyone else, provide Flash player penetration statistics that include subversions (ie, Flash Player version 6,0,65,0) This is all I could find: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetrat ion.html Not that I've seen, at least not for largescale audiences. Here's some of the context: -- The audit methodology is to take regular online consumer focus groups, and ask them to view a dozen or so different pages, each with a different type or version of simple content. Each additional viewing page causes some testers to stop, potentially skewing the result. Bottom line is that there's a practical limit on how many test pages can be used. -- The results are useful as a general guideline, but do not apply directly to any particular website. Use these stats to look at trends across all consumers, not as a predictor for the audience to a specific site. With that context, if you're looking to determine specific minor versions for a particular site's audience, you can use your own server logs and/or any versioning test you include on that one site. More generally speaking, you can use the overall web norms, and the periods between different Player releases, to do a general estimate of how much time people had to install a particular old minor version... if a version was only available for three months before being replaced by a version which was current for six months, then the latter would have higher current viewership. But even more generally, nearly the entire web is turning over its Adobe Flash Player capabilities each year now, and they always get the latest version when they update. Unless you're dealing with a bound audience (like an intranet without administrative privileges), then audiences with old capabilities are getting smaller and smaller, as the overall adoption rate continues to rocket forward. Does this give you the info needed to bring this project forward...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] launching an exe?
Adam Fisk wrote: Thanks for the responses. I understand the security concerns and sympathize with them, but I still want my users to be able to install the app much easier regardless. "Adobe Flash" covers a wide range of deployment possibilities. It sounds like you're asking for ways to safely and easily install a desktop application from a web browser. If so, then keep an eye on the upcoming Apollo project: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Apollo Other than that, you can always wrap the Adobe Flash Player in a native-code executable (as regular Projector or third-party shell) and use the browser's regular installation mechanism to download and activate. I wouldn't accept EXEs from strangers myself, but that's one way to do it with current technology. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: exact match of flash background hex color and background color of html page
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've encountered issues in the past, where the identical hex colors in flash and in html were rendered slightly different, making it impossible to seemless merge the 2. Does anyone know if this isue been resolved? Usually depends on the display space... on 16-bit displays you'll see undisplayable colors handled in different ways be different rendering engines. "HTML colors look different than SWF colors" http://www.adobe.com/go/14819 jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q:Justifying Flash 8 Content
Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: You can still make banner ads and cartoons with Flash 4. That's what Flash is used for right? So I've read ;-) (For the main thread, people usually decide what features their application might need, and then balance that against the trends in capability among their own audience.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Firefox 2 on a Mac
Wendy wrote: Here is the link. Flash movies made in Flash 8 will not show on this client's Mac under Firefox. It shows just fine on her Mac under Safari. http://www.themagazinegroup.com/clients-case-studies-webmd.asp Another initial troubleshooting step is the some-or-all-sites test... if their browser can't show *any* SWF, then you've got a clue. (For instance, from the description posted to the list, we out here can't tell if she doesn't have the Adobe Flash Player in her Firefox installation... we know she has it in her Safari Plugins folder, but the some-or-all-sites test would reveal scenarios like this.) Right now we're doing the some-or-all-browsers test for you. I'm on a PC right now and can't duplicate the check, but the markup looks normal. If she can see the SWFs on the Adobe site or other sites in that browser, but not yours, then the next test would be to feed her a much simpler SWF of your own... possibly replace that SWF into your existing HTML... possibly run your existing SWF in a basic HTML page... just changing one part of the problem at a time until you can zoom in on the problem area. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RE: wmode=transparent and buttons behavior woes (Merrill, Jason)
Scott Morgan wrote: It is a bug, here is a write up on my blog about it. http://blog.scottgmorgan.com/php/default.php?topicID=170&contentID=739&r owID=114 In case this is "Do browsers have different levels of support for piping plugin content to their internal compositing engines?" then yes, they do. We've seen keyinput differences, printing differences, accessibility differences, lots of stuff you wouldn't expect. You mention streaming/preloading. The plugin works the same, but the way the browser enables input and output with the plugin has historically varied among browsers. And unfortunately, the different browsermakers don't really document how they differ, even in such browser basics as CSS, much less advanced plugin-related stuff like LiveConnect/ExternalInterface or WMODE compositing. The more we rely on the browser, the more handling of browser differences we must negotiate. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] How-To access Flash Player from C++ on OSX ?
Frank Baumgartner wrote: I've already been Flash Player together with custom C++ solutions under Windows and it's working nicely. However, at the moment i am very interested on cross-plattform development using flash for user interfaces on both windows and OSX, but i've got very little experiences on OSX development, especially concerning the topic "how to access flash player on OSX !?". This might be tricky, cross-platform. Here's the background: Netscape 2.0 introduced a cross-platform browser extension mechanism, named Netscape Plugins. These platform-specific extensions were installed at the application level, into the browser, and could then support cross-platform SWF files. But Microsoft used a different extension mechanism for its Windows browsers. They used the system-level ActiveX Controls. This is why the nested OBJECT/EMBED structure is used, and affected why the W3C outlawed EMBED and settled on OBJECT. Because ActiveX Controls are system-level components, they can then be invoked by any application on the system. Netscape Plugins, though, are bound to the application space instead of the system space. That's why it's easy to do what you're doing on Windows, and more difficult on other platforms, or on Windows boxes which prefer Firefox to IE. If your XCode skills include the hosting of Netscape Plugins, then you might be able to tap into the Mozilla Plugins folder yourself, or else ask your audience to copy the plugin into your own local directory (or do it during installation, etc). I haven't studied how XCode handles this, and how easy it makes it to host Netscape Plugins, but that would be the path on anything other than a straight Microsoft system. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Builder 2 for Mac - 6 things you need to know
It opens revealing a "Flex Start Page" panel which has a heading "How Flex Works, a sub-heading "6 things you need to know" followed by 6 text links that lead nowhere. Works for me! They link to internal help docs with a URL like: http://127.0.0.1:58332/help/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.adobe.flexbuilder.help%2Fhtml%2Fhow_flex_works_2.html I don't know the packaging yet, but that's a local address, rather than an adobe.com address: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Alocalhost For "How might a local address fail?" then some ways include moving the files around on disk, browser security changes ot prohibit local files, difficulty finding a browser... anything like this seem like it might be happening here...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Filters - Progressive enhancement for those with the 8+ player?
Kevin Cannon wrote: Is it possible to publish a movie as Flash 6, but use the flash filters to add things like drop shadows for those with the Flash 8 or greater plugin? Cedric had a good tip on how to do this in a single file, and Peter discussed the split-file technique as well. But a reminder, too, of the counter-intuitive finding that very few people have Macromedia Flash Player 6 these days... back in June a consumer survey found that less than 2% had FP6 installed, while over 85% already had FP8, and over the past six months of YouTubey happiness that difference would have become even more radically pronounced. ... but maybe you have an audience which is partially locked down, where they don't have permission to change what's on their machines...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] C++ flash host supporting transparency
Chris Douglass wrote: > ...Is there an SDK for people wanting to build their own > hosts for Flash apps? Not from Adobe. If you're creating native-code applications atop multiple operating systems, then it's usually each development environment which would contain info on how to host ActiveX Controls or Netscape Plugins. I recall that there are different models for hosting ActiveX Controls... Macromedia and Adobe test against the hosting model used by Microsoft Internet Explorer. I'm not sure I could explain the differences between this and other ways of using ActiveX in Windows, though. (For the Player, giving it that WMODE instruction in the markup is enough to trigger a mechanism for the browser to pass a memory location to the Player, so that the visual output can be sent to the browser's own compositing buffer rather than directly to screen. I myself don't know the different browser APIs you'd need to handle to have the Player pipe its rendering to your own compositing app.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player
Zárate wrote, of inconsistent WMODE side-effects among browsers: If it's not up to Adobe fixing this, then I change my question to: Is Adobe NOW actively talking with browser manufacturers to solve this? I don't know for sure either way... I know that there are lots of discussions among different Adobe workgroups to various teams for the different browser manufacturers, but I don't know the content of each set of conversations. I'll try to find out more, particularly from the Player team's contacts with Microsoft, Mozilla, Apple and Opera. If not (so for Adobe the behaviour of wmode is fine or not so important), please remove it from the player. IT JUST DOES NOT WORK, not even on Win/IE. It's _still_ causing a huge amount of problems to a huge amount of people*. I share your ambivalence about such browser-dependent features. Plugin detection, content replacement, the whole FSCommand/externalInterface scene... all of these are worthy goals, but their complexity and inconsistency has caused real hurt to people too. I'd lean towards better guidance in documentation about the true potential costs of relying on the differing browsers, rather than remove the option together. How do you feel about this way of addressing this issue...? ps: please don't tell me things like "if you don't like Flash go and do php" or "go to Slashdot to meet your geek friends". Oh my gosh, do people still talk like that these days...!? ;-) * The other day in my office wmode was the answer to a design problem. So when they came to me and say: "Hey! I've fixed it, we're going to use wmode, look at Adobe's website, we can do it, I thought you were the Flash guy, you should know those things!" I had to waste 1 hour telling them that using it will cause "problems". I empathize with this situation too... it's similar to how people say "firefox supports svg, and my mobile phone does too", without ever looking at what specific functionality you can actually and reliably achieve... they get trapped by the label "svg" or "use wmode" and their minds go out to lunch. If we could make sure that accurate info on costs was included in all documentation which mentioned WMODE, then do you think this would reduce the problem you're seeing...? http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aadobe.com+wmode tx, jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player
Mick G wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to embed flash transparent (wmode=transparent) on a layer above an embedded Windows Media Player active-x control? Possibly, but I'd hesitate anyway. I think the Windows Media Player, implemented as an ActiveX Control, also has support for rendering to the browser's compositing buffer via WMODE requests, rather than blasting directly to screen. Just as DHTML cannot layer above SWF unless the SWF is routed to the browser's drawing buffer via WMODE, the WMP would need to go into the browser's buffer to layer anything atop it. But I'd hesitate to do so, though, because drawing video offscreen before transferring it to the video display would give a performance hit, and you'd also likely drop frames from timing differences too... the video codec renders every X milliseconds, the browser refreshes its display every Y milliseconds, and some info would be lost in the middle. Steven Sacks has info on the scrolling issues too. If you must use WMP (for rights-management, eg), then could you keep it drawing directly to screen, and surround the WMP with with four framing SWFs, intercommunicating through LocalConnection? This would be a little more development work, but would make less work for the browser's rendering pipeline. Possible...? Zárate wrote: > You might want to think it twice before using wmode: > http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wmode+problems&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > Anyone knows if Adobe is trying to fix this for the next release > of the player? Browser differences are browser differences. When WMODE is changed, then the Player changes the address in memory to which it sends its pixels. Over the past eight years the Player has implemented WMODE requests, we've seen different browsers print upside down, not pass screenreader instructions, do funny things with keyboard entry, when the browser gets in the middle of the rendering pipeline like this. The Player is the same across environments, but it's the environments themselves which differ, and when we ask the browsers to do more, their results vary more. More info's available with this search: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wmode+problems+dowdell jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: sold laptop, need to release Studio 8?
Count Schemula wrote: I just sold my laptop. I can't really find how to "release" my serial number for Studio 8 before I reformat the drive. Does this still have to be done? I'm buying another laptop, so, I want intall on that with no hassles. Sorry for my delay; thanks to Ramses for the link. The Macromedia "activation" method mainly checks for many requests made on the same serial number in short succession. If you're installing on a new system, months after the last installation, then this wouldn't usually trigger any notice from the serial-authentication server. But to be sure, you can just choose the "Transfer this License" item from the Help menu, which will tell the server that you've removed the old installation. Should be okay either way, but it's better to hit that menu item if you can. Good...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] flv not playing in IE with Flash 9
Ammon Lauritzen wrote: On 10/5/06, John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're using a JavaScript routine to write the tags. When you do a test file with straight OBJECT/EMBED markup, then do you see that content in that browser? That's the quickest way to start finding where the difference is. I'm sorry, I thought I was clearer than that. By "without swfobject" I meant that I had also tried manually as well: codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0"; width="360" height="320" id="VideoPreview" align="middle"> http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"; /> (URL for this snippet on my dev server is at http://enemyhideout.com/walkez/VideoPreview.html) Again. This works fine in Firefox and in IE/Flash8. But in IE/Flash9, flash loads, I'm just getting a contentless box. My point was that I'm not finding _anything_ that makes a difference other than flash player version. Ammon ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com If you can't see other SWF in that browser, then that's a clue. -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] flv not playing in IE with Flash 9
Ammon Lauritzen wrote: Ok, simple issue really, and I seem to have found evidence of other people experiencing it as well - just no answers posted to their pleas for help :) When people say "it dont work" and others know it does, it's hard for others to help. Normal troubleshooting helps more (some-or-all-files, some-or-all-sessions, the usual stuff.) I have a flash video (the player swf is compiled for flash 8) that should be visible at the bottom of http://walk-ez.com/fans.aspx. You're using a JavaScript routine to write the tags. When you do a test file with straight OBJECT/EMBED markup, then do you see that content in that browser? That's the quickest way to start finding where the difference is. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash player standalone universal binary or alternative
Serge Jespers wrote: any word on a Universal Binary standalone Flash player? I don't recall seeing announcements, although I might have missed something in the crush. New OS/hardware requirements are usually met in the next major version. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Mute Flash Application, mac.
aaron smith wrote: Does anyone know of an application that can mute flash or browsers for a mac? I generally push the "sound mute" button on the keyboard. Maybe you meant "How can my content programmatically control each audience member's sound system?", for which I don't have an answer, other than not using sound in your SWF, or offering an on-screen button for volume control, etc. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Decompiling some sketchy flash code
Michiel Nolet wrote: - User visits his favorite website, say, www.joesblog.com - Joesblogs puts some ads on his site and sell his inventory to an adnetwork - Adnetwork doesn't know this "matchservice.com" ad is a scam, and serves the user a nice 468x60 flash banner of rmatchservice.com - If the user's IP & timezone & (mysterious other reasons) match some parameters in the actionscript, flash file opens a popup without a click to errorsafe.com/... - New errorsafe page tries to install active-x and also initiates an .exe download to try to get the user to install the program. - User accidentally clicks install, or "open" on the exe and is now infected w/ spyware. So it sounds like the SWF asks the browser to open a window, and that's it? sounds like there are browser-specific dependencies then...? (Advertising servers are definitely in a tricky spot, because they're always hosting content they don't create -- they have to be able to trust the stuff they serve, and it's hard to accept ads from strangers, people without reputations to maintain.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Decompiling some sketchy flash code
Michiel Nolet wrote: I'm in the online advertising industry and I've been trying to track down an squash a scam that has been hitting the industry. There is a party out there (errorsafe.com) that is embedding some very nasty code in their flash ads that depending on several factors will popup a new window and try install their spyware using active-x. Is this different from the prior ErrorSafe JavaScript implementation? If so, then do you know where I can read more conversation about it? My web searches are turning up too much noise. What's the user experience and sequence of events? tx, jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Player 9 textfield problem
Telmo Dias wrote: Never mind this post. It's a known issue when using the wmode=transparent, which is described here: http://www.5etdemi.com/blog/archives/2005/06/firefox-wmodetransparent-is-completely-screwy-and-breaks-textfields/ Browsers vary. With WMODE, we're piping the Player's rendering in to the browser. They don't all do stuff the same. For any WMODE, ExternalInterface, network request, the identity of the browser in the problem statement is the key factor. These symptoms vary by browser, not Player. It's also why, in the initial post, the first question in reply is frequently "Does this happen with some-or-all SWF, in some-or-all browsers, on some-or-all machines" and so on... fast way of identifying any special content differences, such as asking the browser to include plugin content in its own rendering pipeline. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Player 9 Issues?
Thanks for including the error text. When I did a web search on phrase "The following add-on was running when this problem occurred", I pulled up a Microsoft technote which referred to IE7 beta: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920082/en-us But I see in the search results that lots of people have similar error reports, for lots of different modules, including various versions of Flash Player. If memory serves, that term "add-on" is only used for Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 betas... is the person with this problem running a beta browser, and if so, is it Microsoft's current version? jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Slow performance of Flash 7 content in Flash Player 9
Aaron Haines wrote: Does anyone have any solid information about the performance of SWFs published as Flash 7 when playing in Flash Player 9? Peter Hall did. There seems to be some anecdotal evidence that it runs very slowly and we are seeing some eveidence of this. How can others see this too? A link to a particular SWF would be fine, but more direct would be a description of how others could make a small file to test a particular function. If other people can see it too, then we can make some progress. Generally, new Players must play old content at least as well. There are some particular features which may not follow this rule (security requirements are one prominent exception), but the public Developer Releases are for identifying and addressing any such degradations. I'd still like to learn what you're seeing, thanks. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash cross-platform
Audry Taylor wrote: I figure the experts could help me on this one. When you create an interactive Flash file, is it automatically compatible with different platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux) so long as the user has installed Flash or does it take extra scripting or something special to make it work across platforms? Also, what about working on a foreign machine? Can people in Japan or China, for example, play Flash games made in English in the U.S.? The answer generally is "yes", here. One way to think about it is that the Adobe Flash Player is a "virtual machine" which works the same no matter what environment it's built atop. WWW browsers do this for HTML, where you can see a document regardless of which browser you use. WWW browsers may not be identical when you get to advanced display or interactivity, but for basic document work they abstract away the underlying platform differences. The Adobe Flash Player offers a higher level of functionality in its virtualization. The biggest differences are in Player versioning. The Windows and regular Macintosh versions for Flash Player 9 were finished first, and once these were proven in the field the other ports began -- Macintosh/Intel Player entered distribution a month or two ago, Linux Player is expect in public beta later this year with final delivery early next year -- mobile devices will probably take awhile to get to Flash 9 level. Generally, though, any device which plays a SWF6 file or SWF7 file or whatever will play them the same. Languages and cultures introduce different complexity. Many games are international, with little emphasis on language or cultural referents. If you've got a text-heavy presentation then support for multiple languages, or others who cannot read English well, would become important. But when you're delivering to a global audience you also have to consider colors, gestures, the types of ways people spend their time... there are lots of soft angles to consider for internationalization. The Flash Player Virtual Machine doesn't get in the way of that, though... it'll play content the same in Paris as it would in Kyoto or Guilin. Good...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash 7,8,9 , AS 2 and 3 - clarify the situation
ryanm wrote: Actually, with MySpace requiring Flash 9, I would expect the penetration to reach 80%+ within a couple months. The MySpace surge apparently affected the servers last week (I think MySpace has since throttled back, spread out their update requests), but even so, MySpace has 90 million members, and Flash Player 8 and above have consistently exceeded five million successful installs per day... Flash Player gains more new audience in a month than all MySpace members combined. They may have pushed the adoption curve forward a few weeks. For the original question, Adobe Flash Player 9 was released to the public at the end of June 2006, and is now available in Windows, Macintosh, and Intel-based Macintosh versions. Player 9 for Linux should arrive towards the end of 2006. For mobile, Adobe Flash Lite 2 is the current version, used in new devices, although most devices already have Flash Lite 1.x baked in. For authoring, the Flash 8 Professional authoring tool for visual development produces SWF8 files. Adobe Flex 2.0, released in late June, uses the new ActionScript 3 engine in Flash Player 9 for its enhanced logic-processing capabilities. Other tools may produce different versions of SWF files, but the current Adobe Flash Player 9 will play them all (subject to cross-domain security requests, etc). For statistics, the most recent consumer audit took place in June, before Flash Player 9 was available for the general public, and so they measured up to FP8. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] flash player
Hans Wichman wrote: is there anyway to install the latest flashplayer ocx without visiting the adobe site with internet explorer? Yes, Internet Explorer for Windows will usually do a background installation of any needed updates to an ActiveX Control. The following search term pulls up documentation: http://www.google.com/search?q=object+codebase+version I can download the archived players, but i can't download the latest, except through a browser install. Yes, Adobe does keep a backstock of archived Players which can be downloaded for development testing purposes, not redistribution. If you'd like to redistribute the current Player for intranet or hard-copy delivery, then please see: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution Just seems so much hassle to provide the ocx to non internet explorer users, or am I missing things here? ?? "ocx" is "ActiveX", and the only browser which uses this is Microsoft Internet Explorer for Windows and its offspring (Maxthon (sp?), etc). Other browsers use Netscape Plugins. If none of the above addressed your needs then please advise, thanks. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] ExternalInterface, embed tag and IE
Vishal Kapur wrote of difficulty in persuading Microsoft Internet Explorer for Windows to accept messages from Adobe Flash Player when the HTML markup IE ate contained only an EMBED tag, no OBJECT: In terms of why I can't use an object tag, I should have clarified that I do not have control over the HTML source. Not sure why they third-party that did develop the HTML chose to use , but the guess is that it's a little bit less code to get cross-browser compatibility (instead of using with an sub-tag). There may be a way around this, but I think you may have to use the OBJECT tag to get that browser to function that way. Background: Browsers and their extensions have been able to communicate for years. Unfortunately, different browsers offered different mechanisms for host/guest communication. Microsoft offered ActiveX Scripting for its Windows browser. This lets ActiveX Controls talk to the host. ActiveX Controls are documented as being invoked with the OBJECT tag. Recent versions of IE have added the ability to guess which extension to invoke from filenames, which is why EMBED alone can often make the content display. But I don't know that Microsoft documents what range of functionality they support when controls are invoked this way... I think the rationale may have been to support Netscape Plugins rather than just ActiveX Controls, but like I've said, I don't see the browser makers document to this level of detail. If the client wants communication between the browser and its extensions, then they may need to set the markup in the way that browser expects. Wish I had a happier answer, and there may be a way to trick a particular version of Internet Explorer to do as you wish here, but that's all I've got on this type of issue at this time. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Lite - what's happening
Robin Burrer wrote: [various statements/questions about Flash mobile adoption] North American is behind the curve, agreed... you'll hear similar statements over the last few years of exec interviews. Why? Partly because the early build-out of landlines in North America slowed the momentum for mobile communication -- there weren't coverage gaps as in other areas of the world, and so less necessity for mobile development. Another reason is that North America was an early adopter of widespread computer use, and so didn't have the necessity for data development either. "There's no failure like success, and no success like failure." Why's it baked into the phones? Because mobiles differ more than computers, and consumer installation would not be practical. Where are the operators? In North America Verizon has already announced planned deployment, and the BREW announcements are now in public beta. For going back to old formats, that's true -- we've had to refactor downwards for the less capable devices. This discrepancy will diminish over time, although there's also pressure for desktop-only stuff like hardware-assisted rendering, but the goal is to reduce the differences among device types. > Why can't they provide a "flash projector" provider for mobile phones? More and more, people are realizing that they don't want to install native code from strangers onto their devices. The Adobe Flash Player provides a sandbox in which safe instructions can run. Trusting strangers often works out well, but > Don't get me wrong I'm really impressed with the performance of Flash > Lite 2.0 player and its capabilities. Maybe that's why frustrated... I agree with you... it's hard waiting for the future to come. At least we've passed through the Grand Inquisition and the days before indoor plumbing by now, those were hard times, but there's still a long way to go ;-) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash plugin preinstalled starting with what browser versions?
Doug Brashear wrote: I'm trying to make a business case for one of my clients, and in order to do so need to know when (the specific IE, Opera and Firefox version numbers) the Flash plug came pre-installed with the browser. This page doesn't have browser versions, but it does have the years in which each browser and operating system included Macromedia Flash Player in their default distributions: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/partners/ But this wouldn't tell you how much of your audience did that quick little update to the current Adobe Flash Player -- it would just tell you what they started with when they got their browser, not what they actually have. For that I'd defer to the NPD consumer audits that Paul mentioned: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html Not every page's audience will match such overall consumer norms, but knowing how such wide samples have behaved is the closest thing we've got to predictions for specific audiences today. Our Flash need is pretty basic (images and text that fade in and out, no interactivity), and I'd also appreciate any recommendations you have in terms of which version of the Flash player to design for (in terms of features supported) in order to achieve maximum compatibility, but with the ability to take advantage of the most essential features. Well, alpha blending was added in Macromedia Flash Player 3, I think it was, but very few people have that installed today... most have moved up to Flash Player 8, and almost everyone has Flash Player 7 or better by now. A lot might depend on the project's particular audience, too... if much of your audience uses MySpace, for instance, then they'll all have Adobe Flash Player 9 pretty soon... or if it's a school or intranet without installation privileges then you'll need to contact the IT staff to see what they permit... the specific audience you're targeting is a big influence on what clientside capability to require. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Player 8 Corporate Penetration
Charlie Skinner wrote: Does anyone know any sources for statistics on Flash Player 8 Penetration within Corporate networks? I think it varies by the organization, with each choosing one of three different styles: (a) In some intranets the IT decisionmakers already install Adobe Flash Player 8, so all of the audience has it; (b) in some intranets the IT decisionmakers do not already install Flash Player 8, so none of the audience has it; (c) in some intranets users have installation privileges, and so installation rates will tend to follow overall consumer norms. With the decentralized decision-making on general consumer machines we know that FP8 was adopted at a ridiculously rapid rate, but intranets are often an all-or-nothing thing, so the adoption will be a lot lumpier than for consumers, because entire groups make the same decision at once. If you happen to know which corporate intranet you're targeting, then it's possible to get direct information on how much of that particular audience has upgraded to Player 8 or Player 9 yet. I suspect this isn't as definite an answer as you'd like, but does it show the ingredients that go into making it a difficult issue to generally assess...? I've seen this question asked before in a number of places and it always goes un-answered. I try, honest I do, but ;-) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] AS3, BitmapData and domain security
Paul Neave wrote: On 22/07/06, John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the foreign data acknowledges you (via a policy declaration on their server), or if your own server proxies that data yourself, then the ability to get inside that bitmap data is available.> I don't see the point of restricting access to BitmapData from another server when all you have to do to get at it is use a proxy script on your own server. True, for most cases. But as Bernard pointed out, the Player can run behind someone else's firewall, and is able to access servers not available to your server in the open WWW. That's a lot of the reason for Player security issues: it runs in private places, where your server cannot. That's why the data server must acknowledge that they accept such requests. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] AS3, BitmapData and domain security
Paul Neave wrote: The weird thing is that you can load an image from any server without the need for a crossdomain policy file, but you can't use BitmapData.draw() unless you have a policy file. Also, you can load an mp3 from any other server but you can't access the mp3's id3 information without a policy file on the other server. I don't have background on those potential exploits yet myself, but would suspect that it's the entire access to bitmap data from foreign sources which is blocked off, rather than just specific methods within that class, to minimize leaks across versions as methods change. If the foreign data acknowledges you (via a policy declaration on their server), or if your own server proxies that data yourself, then the ability to get inside that bitmap data is available. Why types of exploits are possible? I don't have a full list, but I've heard of CAPTCHA defeats in the past, and the rewriting of message boxes, things like that... those are the types of exploits which prevent free manipulation of foreign, unwilling media data. I've put an item in my schedule to ask the security folks next week if there are any updates in this area, better info. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Back from html to specific point in flash
Ricardo Sánchez wrote: So our second option is open the link in the same window but giving the user the chance to hit the back button of the browser (once in the html) and go back to the specific situation where he was on the flash. Is this possible? It could be, but a lot depends on the presentation, and how you determine where "here" is. For a slideshow you can just do local Shared Object Storage of the last slide viewed, and jump to the last viewpoint whenever starting, for instance. For an application you may need to represent a stack of prior user actions. Kevin Lynch had an example awhile ago which also deals with state-representation in SWF... he put the state into the URL itself, as query terms, but the same issue of "How do you know where 'here' is?" remains. (Most window-blocking extensions for browsers permit new windows in response to user clicks in the HTML part, but many have blocked all window requests from plugins, because of abuses from spammers. I don't know of a current listing of which window-blockers, and their audience sizes, will block a getURL with _blank from SWF.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 Reference Library PDF?
Charles Parcell wrote: Any word on the PDF John? While I have found the HTML version, it is not very printer friendly at all (and neither is the one on livedocs). A PDF version would be greatly appreciated. After all you guys are Adobe now and PDF is part of your thing. I am really surprised that it wasn't released with Flex. Sorry for the delay on this, I'm still pursuing it, finding the team scheduling it then trying to catch them amid travel. So far I've got "yes there are just livedocs today" and "as3 pdf might hit blaze beta", but I'm still trying to lock things down. I likely won't be able to get face-to-face with the owners until next week, though. :( jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] [Ann] Tonight: World's Largest Flex Application
Andreas Rønning wrote: I wish people wouldn't advertise local events on this list. The grand screaming majority here is nowhere near Sydney and probably won't be anytime soon. Would consistently mentioning the geographic restriction in the email Subject line help accommodate both points of view...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Progressivelly download (and show) a jpg image
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: Is it possible somehow to progressivelly show a jpg being loaded via loadMovie()? The topdown "effect" that is native in images loaded via html... as far as I know, It´s only possible to show the image in the flash player after it has been completely loaded, but I remember seeing an example of such thing on flashkit once... Horizontal image-slicing may be another way to give the appearance of progressive display, without suffering the initial wait for the full image to download... if you turn one large image into eight thin strips, you could then use an animated mask to give an illusion of finer-grained progressive display. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] AS3 Reference Library PDF?
Charles Parcell wrote: Now that Flash Player 9 is officially released, does anyone know if there is a PDF of the AS3 Reference Library? While I know it is on LiveDocs, I like to thumb through actual paper. I'm not sure yet, Charles. First I checked with search term "'actionscript 3' filetype:pdf site:adobe.com", without results. I then checked cubicles over in the Flash section of the building, but with the holiday and the big ship it's pretty quiet there today. If such a resource existed today, then I'd expect to see it linked here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/actionscript/ I'd suspect a PDF version is on the schedule, but let me try nailing down detail later on in this week, when people who took the short holiday are back on duty. Deal? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] minor version differences
Josh Santangelo wrote: Does anyone know what changed between Flash players 8,0,22,0 and 8,0,24,0? I'm running into a bug which only appears in the former, and am wondering what other differences there are. After I tear my hair out (this is funny cuz I'm bald) trying to work around it for a while, I'm sure you'll hear more about this particular bug. Release notes describe two changes... doublecheck me, please, but it looks like this was the binary signatures change during installation, and I don't see mention of (or recall any) runtime differences. http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/8/releasenotes.html#24 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/security/security_zone/apsb06-03.html http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=4da116d3 jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] AfterEffects 6.5/FLV question
Gene Jannece wrote: I would like to know if there is a way/hack to get it so I can use AfterEffects 6.5 to export the video to FLV in the AfterEffects render queue. I would rather not have to batch render it to mpeg and then use the Flash 8 batch to do mpeg to flv. Thanks for any help. I just checked with Bob Donlon* who sits near me, and there's not a good way to automate that from AfterEffects 6.5. Moving up to version 7 makes it easy, but 6.5 is hard, agreed. * http://blogs.adobe.com/bobddv/2006/06/the_cat_unbagged.html jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Ajax and ActionScript 2.0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could somebody share with me 1 example where "AJAX"/XMLHttpRequest succeeds where Flash fails ? I would prefer flash XML.sendAndLoad over AJAX anyday, as the XML object is a bit easier.. and you can get around the domain limitations imposed by "AJAX". The only situation I can think of offhand would be one where someone has a browser which offers a standard XmlHttpRequest ability, and where the person has not installed Adobe Flash Player. There aren't many of these, but they do exist. One piece of data I've never been able to lock down is "How many consumers actually use 'any modern browser'?" Five years ago we were told it was very important to not inconvenience even 5% of an audience, but somehow those same values don't get quite the same reporting coverage today ;-) Hmm, maybe a different way to approach this problem: "If some of our audience CANNOT request text refreshes, then what's the most friendly way to accommodate them?" In this case, someone may be using an old browser for a reason and may not wish to change their whole viewing environmnet... it's easier to update a small plugin instead, more transparent, less chrome and fewer changes to habit. XHR-specific Flash advantages: cross-domain requests; binary transfers; sockets and server push; more media requests than just text. But "we use ajax for when flash fails"... I don't know of anyone nailing down the data on this, but strongly suspect it's the other way around. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Issue running local swfs in IE in Windows XP SP2
Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: I recently upgraded to Windows XP SP2 and this stupid information bar keeps me from running local html pages with swfs in them without clicking on it, and then a subsequent pop up alert box. If it was actually the SP2 update which changed the behavior, then does this material from 2004 help? http://www.adobe.com/devnet/logged_in/wanbar_sp2.html jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and Javascript Communication Problem
Paul Barton wrote: I have a problem communicating between the Flash Player and the javascript in it's container file. On my server (Apache running on an IIS server) a can communicate using both the ExternalInterface API to pull the data or SetVariable to push it to the Flash Player. When I upload it to the clients server neither of these to methods work. The client insists on IE ( the job is for their intranet) the security setting in IE seem fine they are running Flash Player 8 and their IT department assures me it's not an anti-virus problem (although they can't confirm that) and I am at a complete loss as to why this is the case. From the above, I'm not sure whether the browser has stayed the same when you've changed which server it came from. (Rephrased, if the client can see it from your server but not theirs, all on the same computer, in the same browser.) Another isolation test would be whether other browser/control communication works normally in the balking browser... if your client can view WWW pages which use ActiveX Scripting. If their browser never works then you'd look at the Microsoft permissions... I remember an IE/Win prefs tab for "Disable ActiveX Scripting", for instance. I'm not sure whether this is the case there, though. Changing one part of the problem at a time may be the fastest way to zoom in on the area of difference...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Web Site Response (or Lack Thereof)
[Tip: Try hitting "New Message" in your emailer instead of "Reply", because otherwise your new subject can get buried in archives or threaded emailers.] I've seen enough individual reports of "adobe site slow" to suspect there's a real cause, even though most of us don't see such a thing. Good stuff for reproduction includes (a) browser brand/version/platform; (b) page address and time elapsed; (c) traceroute/DNS of your connection to know where the info is passing and which server is delivering; (d) whether it persists across a system restart. Let me check around the office right now, too, to see if we've got any leads on "slow player download"... if you're seeing 4.8kbps then others are likely too, and we've got ot identify the difference and fix it. I read somewhere recently where the Adobe site has fully completed its integration of the Macromedia site No, there was just a second major milestone of site integration, as the Macromedia web team pulled together the thousands of pages of both sites, many of which were translated into multiple languages. Lots more work to do. http://weblogs.macromedia.com/dhatch/archives/2006/05/i_wanted_to_tal.cfm http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/04/mmcom_1995-2006.cfm jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & drop down menu problem
danya masadeh wrote: Dear Arul, it will be always over the flash, if it window,transparent or opaque ... I tested before Browser is a factor... makes the sentence complete. (Browsers do vary with their support of offscreen compositing, as the docs on the subject indicate.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & drop down menu problem
danya masadeh wrote: I have a drop down menu always appear over a flash This is a hard question to search for, so even if you *had* asked a question it would be hard to find ;-) The answer is "wmode". Search on this term, and you'll see that a number of the replies you have received have been, unfortunately, in error. (For more fun, try searching on the phrase "the answer is wmode".) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Palm OS Blazer Flash Plugin
Lane Good wrote: Does anyone have any info on a Flash 8 player plugin for Palm OS Blazer 4.3? ? Link? (I'm assuming you mean an actual Adobe Flash Player, rather than some knockoff which does parts of various SWF specifications, but I can't be sure my assumption would be correct, and I've already typed more info than you here ;-) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [FlashCoders] Flash player NSIS installation
Dimitrios Bendilas wrote: I need to create an installer for flash player 8. Is there a tutorial or a full script for this? It has to be NSIS installer. Your note doesn't say what "NSIS" means (and I'm not up to a web search at the moment), but I do know the following: (a) for web distribution, use the Adobe site... no multiple points on the WWW (b) for non-web distribution, like intranets or CDs, then you need the free license for distribution anyway (so we have a list of legit requests), and this includes mass installation utilities. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] geturl:javascript is causing images to not display on IE
Christian wrote: I was under the impression that getURL(javascript:) no longer worked in Flash 8. Is this incorrect? Well, it really depends on what the browser does when it receives a "javascript:" pseudo-URL from a plugin or control when it's expecting an URL. Browsers have varied quite a bit in the past in how they supported this*, and even though it's a popular technique, I *have* seen posts in the past about some Microsoft browsers fo rWindows doing wonky things with loading their own images after getting a js pseudo-URL. (* Searching the technotes with term "browser matrix flash" turned up some older benchmarks against various browsers.) I have no solid info on this... if the browsermakers don't document all the fringe things of how they implement a spec, I learned long ago that I'd have less luck. What you're observing does echo observations I've heard from others in the past, if that loose and uninformative recognition is of any help in your troubleshooting. (For the question itself, the Player will still send out location requests to its hosts, same as before... I haven't seen any docs of this popular hack being negated in any way.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Embedding a SWF using base64 and Data: URI scheme
Tom Lee wrote: In the original Microsoft list of workarounds for the Eolas patch, one of the possible workarounds was to base64 encode your swf and embed the data inline in your object tag. The original page has since been removed, and the only evidence I can now find of this is at http://www.mustardlab.com/developer/flash/standards/, a page being kept around for archival reasons (see the "official fixes" section). Though I don't need this technique as an Eolas workaround, I'm still really curious about it. Is it possible to base64 encode a swf file and include that raw data in your web page instead of hosting a separate swf file on your server? Hi Tom, I don't have much solid info myself on that approach... I had heard it discussed during meetings, with the context that there were size constraints of some type, but I haven't seen any implementations of it myself. Sorry I've no solid info, but maybe that in itself is some info...? ;-) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Version penetration stats not being updated?
Clive R Sweeney wrote: Is it just me or does it seem that the stats on Adobe/Macromedia's "Flash Player Version Penetration" page are taking an awfully long time being updated? Flash 8 has some excellent selling points but the stats certainly help get a message across to clients. And, of course, they'd be especially helpful if the adoption rate continued to be as high as indicated in the December report. I know that the March audit was conducted, but I do not know a date for publication... I've been checking the last two weeks myself. I do know that, as the increase in adoption rate has itself increased the last few quarters, that folks here have been trying to cross-check their consumer audit results with deployed website reports... we're able to get some not-for-publication stats from companies like Yahoo (?), and there has been slower publishing in order to confirm these amazing numbers. Bottom line: Please use these numbers as a chart of relative consumer action, rather than prediction of a particular audience. Flash Player 8 had reached 50% consumer viewability within its first three months of distribution, and it's still adding 5,000,000 successful new installations per day. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] How to embed the Flash Player in a desktop application
Chris Velevitch wrote: 'What is the Flash Player's APIs so my C++ program can interface to it'? Like I wrote, the Player itself doesn't expose APIs to hosts so much as use whatever APIs the various hosts expose for communication. (You could say there's a type of API in the predefined play/stop/get/set commands, but this is a given set of commands passed through whichever communication interface the hosting browser offers.) That's ActiveX Scripting for ActiveX Controls (Windows only, usually IE/Win) and NPRuntime for currently-released plugin-using browsers, on Mac or Win. (Previously there was LiveConnect and then the first Mozilla/Firefox API. I think there may be a Linux browser intercommunication protocol too, but Linux browsers vary so greatly that I don't keep this in memory.) Rephrased, to host and communicate with the Adobe Flash Player, you need to either support ActiveX or Plugin hosting, and then implement the communication model which hosts of that type support. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] How to embed the Flash Player in a desktop application
Chris Velevitch wrote: While ago, someone mentioned how easy it is to write a C++ wrapper to create a desktop application with Flash as the UI. According to the documentation, "The ExternalInterface class ... lets you easily communicate from ActionScript and the Flash Player container ... to a desktop application that embeds Flash Player". I've been trying to find information on how to do this. In particular, what is it (ie the name and location of the file) you're embedding (especially when writting a cross platform app) and what is it's API. I'm not sure I'm guessing the right question here, but if it's "Which of the browser APIs does Flash Player's 'externalInterface' call into?", then it's Microsoft's ActiveX Scripting host routines, and the NPRuntime API for plugin-using browsers: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/plugins/npruntime.html If you can emulate either the first (for system-level ActiveX invocations) or the second (for application-level NSPlugin invocations) then your own C++ app should be able to communicate with the Player. But I'm not sure whether you're writing your own C++ app, there were a bunch of sentences, but I'm not sure what is being sought. jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] ads inside a SWF
Mike Lyda wrote: I'd like to include ads (Google ads) inside of a SWF.. with hopes of having the SWF end up on other sites. But is this u legal with Google? And has someone already done something similar? I don't know the details of how Google serves and tracks, but I do know they include SWF ads now, but loading this in dynamically raises cross-site issues too. (You might be looking at different situations -- a one-time include of a particular ad might be different from using a shell SWF as a client for Google SWF ads.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Newbie + New subject: Vista
Audry Taylor wrote: So is anyone here worried about what the hyper-secure Windows Vista might do to Flash accessibility for the average user, especially since Microsoft hates Adobe? The companies work together in some areas, compete in some areas, and are in totally different businesses in most areas... from what I've seen, "hate" is more in the press and Slashdot than in the world. For "accessibility", if we mean screenreaders, then it's hard for me to see Microsoft breaking the Active Accessibility APIs, and if they did, the screenreaders would likely have trouble with such a change too. (If "accessibility" means "distributing Flash Player with Vista", then I haven't anticipated that they would (Flash Player was the only non-MS software bundled with WinXP because it showed their welcome screen, and when it ships Vista will likely have a richer media layer of its own), and I wouldn't care much either way... Flash Player 7 and 8 had far larger adoption rates than any version of Windows ever did. OS bundling is nice, but not as useful overall anymore.) Is the above the type of info you were seeking...? jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com