Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick
Make that tripled… :) John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: >>> I'll settle for actionscript 3 replacing JavaScript in the browser :) > > Second that! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I'll settle for actionscript 3 replacing JavaScript in the browser :) Ross P. Sclafani Owner / Creative Director Neuromantic Industries http://www.neuromantic.com http://ross.sclafani.net http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani 347.204.5714 On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Karina Steffens wrote: > Happy New Year to all of you, all the best wishes for 2012! > May the world remain intact, and Flash replace HTML5 as the new web standard > ;-) > > Karina > > > > On 31 Dec 2011, at 12:31, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: > >> Actually that JS, man, she has some pretty nice curves.. (wink) >> >> Me personally, I like HTML + XML + JS + PHP + Flash. >> They REALLY know how to party together.. :) And when the mood is right they >> put on a spectacular show! >> Just watch out for XML, she likes to tie you up. ;) and well.. you know, >> Flash gots' all the toys. >> After a few go-arounds with any of them and they tell you all their secrets. >> (But keep that on the hush hush.. =) >> You can never have too many Codewatch Babes in your bungalow.. you never >> know when one will up and leave... ;) >> >> Make it a real one people! >> THANK YOU ALL for all your help this last year.. >> See you on the other side. >> >> Best, >> >> Karl >> >> >> On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Peter Ginneberge wrote: >> >>>> With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another >>>> programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something >>>> new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on >>>> Flash and I do not want to! >>> >>> I understand what you're saying. >>> When I started learning Java (not so very long ago) I got frustrated by the >>> mess that is JSP and Servlets. >>> That is why I'm so glad I finally found something like GWT to make web apps >>> more or less the way I'm used to in Flex (I stopped using Flash around v8). >>> Meaning, OOP, MVP, etc.. >>> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideMvpActivitiesAndPlaces.html >>> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/articles/mvp-architecture.html >>> >>> If you look at this project structure: >>> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/images/contacts-project-hierarchy.png >>> That's almost exactly what it would look like in Flex when using Cairngorm >>> for instance, but without the Command pattern. >>> There's libraries out there that do have a Command implementation. >>> >>> And with GWT you can use a declarative xml like structure for layout, close >>> to Flex' MXML: >>> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideUiBinder.html >>> >>>> So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? >>>> Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? >>>> What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 >>>> (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to >>>> iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the >>>> developing process is faster than any other thing done in another >>>> programming language? >>>> >>> >>> I hear ya ! >>> I just love Flex, I really do. The thing is, in a few years time (I'm >>> guessing) plugins will be a thing of the past. >>> Windows 8 is already moving in that direction. So it will simply be a >>> matter of: "we don't have a choice." >>> >>> I mentioned this on FlexCoders already. If Adobe - moving away from the >>> Flash plugin - would make FlashBuilder into something that spits out >>> HTML/JS web apps much like GWT now does with Java, I'd be all over it. And >>> I'm sure I'm not the only one :) >>> >>> The power and beauty of ActionScript+MXML to build the apps we're used to >>> and not having to touch the ugliness that is JS/HTML. >>> That'd be my wish for 2012 :) >>> >>> regards, >>> Muzak >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Ima Newsletta" >>> >>> To: "Flash Coders List" >>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:12 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick >>> >>> >>>> Thanks Muzak, >>>> Very interesting links! &g
Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick
Happy New Year to all of you, all the best wishes for 2012! May the world remain intact, and Flash replace HTML5 as the new web standard ;-) Karina On 31 Dec 2011, at 12:31, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: > Actually that JS, man, she has some pretty nice curves.. (wink) > > Me personally, I like HTML + XML + JS + PHP + Flash. > They REALLY know how to party together.. :) And when the mood is right they > put on a spectacular show! > Just watch out for XML, she likes to tie you up. ;) and well.. you know, > Flash gots' all the toys. > After a few go-arounds with any of them and they tell you all their secrets. > (But keep that on the hush hush.. =) > You can never have too many Codewatch Babes in your bungalow.. you never know > when one will up and leave... ;) > > Make it a real one people! > THANK YOU ALL for all your help this last year.. > See you on the other side. > > Best, > > Karl > > > On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Peter Ginneberge wrote: > >>> With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another >>> programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something >>> new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on >>> Flash and I do not want to! >> >> I understand what you're saying. >> When I started learning Java (not so very long ago) I got frustrated by the >> mess that is JSP and Servlets. >> That is why I'm so glad I finally found something like GWT to make web apps >> more or less the way I'm used to in Flex (I stopped using Flash around v8). >> Meaning, OOP, MVP, etc.. >> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideMvpActivitiesAndPlaces.html >> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/articles/mvp-architecture.html >> >> If you look at this project structure: >> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/images/contacts-project-hierarchy.png >> That's almost exactly what it would look like in Flex when using Cairngorm >> for instance, but without the Command pattern. >> There's libraries out there that do have a Command implementation. >> >> And with GWT you can use a declarative xml like structure for layout, close >> to Flex' MXML: >> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideUiBinder.html >> >>> So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? >>> Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? >>> What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 >>> (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to >>> iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the >>> developing process is faster than any other thing done in another >>> programming language? >>> >> >> I hear ya ! >> I just love Flex, I really do. The thing is, in a few years time (I'm >> guessing) plugins will be a thing of the past. >> Windows 8 is already moving in that direction. So it will simply be a matter >> of: "we don't have a choice." >> >> I mentioned this on FlexCoders already. If Adobe - moving away from the >> Flash plugin - would make FlashBuilder into something that spits out HTML/JS >> web apps much like GWT now does with Java, I'd be all over it. And I'm sure >> I'm not the only one :) >> >> The power and beauty of ActionScript+MXML to build the apps we're used to >> and not having to touch the ugliness that is JS/HTML. >> That'd be my wish for 2012 :) >> >> regards, >> Muzak >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ima Newsletta" >> >> To: "Flash Coders List" >> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick >> >> >>> Thanks Muzak, >>> Very interesting links! >>> >>> However I said "easily" :-) >>> With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another >>> programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something >>> new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on >>> Flash and I do not want to! >>> >>> In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the >>> new devices. >>> >>> So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? >>> Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"?
Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick
Actually that JS, man, she has some pretty nice curves.. (wink) Me personally, I like HTML + XML + JS + PHP + Flash. They REALLY know how to party together.. :) And when the mood is right they put on a spectacular show! Just watch out for XML, she likes to tie you up. ;) and well.. you know, Flash gots' all the toys. After a few go-arounds with any of them and they tell you all their secrets. (But keep that on the hush hush.. =) You can never have too many Codewatch Babes in your bungalow.. you never know when one will up and leave... ;) Make it a real one people! THANK YOU ALL for all your help this last year.. See you on the other side. Best, Karl On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Peter Ginneberge wrote: With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on Flash and I do not want to! I understand what you're saying. When I started learning Java (not so very long ago) I got frustrated by the mess that is JSP and Servlets. That is why I'm so glad I finally found something like GWT to make web apps more or less the way I'm used to in Flex (I stopped using Flash around v8). Meaning, OOP, MVP, etc.. http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideMvpActivitiesAndPlaces.html http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/articles/mvp-architecture.html If you look at this project structure: http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/images/contacts-project-hierarchy.png That's almost exactly what it would look like in Flex when using Cairngorm for instance, but without the Command pattern. There's libraries out there that do have a Command implementation. And with GWT you can use a declarative xml like structure for layout, close to Flex' MXML: http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideUiBinder.html So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the developing process is faster than any other thing done in another programming language? I hear ya ! I just love Flex, I really do. The thing is, in a few years time (I'm guessing) plugins will be a thing of the past. Windows 8 is already moving in that direction. So it will simply be a matter of: "we don't have a choice." I mentioned this on FlexCoders already. If Adobe - moving away from the Flash plugin - would make FlashBuilder into something that spits out HTML/JS web apps much like GWT now does with Java, I'd be all over it. And I'm sure I'm not the only one :) The power and beauty of ActionScript+MXML to build the apps we're used to and not having to touch the ugliness that is JS/HTML. That'd be my wish for 2012 :) regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: "Ima Newsletta" > To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick Thanks Muzak, Very interesting links! However I said "easily" :-) With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on Flash and I do not want to! In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the new devices. So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the developing process is faster than any other thing done in another programming language? So right now, I stay with Flash. Happy new year to everyone. Il 31/12/2011 03:27, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: Sorry for the late reply.. With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps and ios apps? Yup, except for desktop. Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps. Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps with GWT yet. Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need. Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007. http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has changed (improved) since then. And there's all sorts of addi
Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick
With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on Flash and I do not want to! I understand what you're saying. When I started learning Java (not so very long ago) I got frustrated by the mess that is JSP and Servlets. That is why I'm so glad I finally found something like GWT to make web apps more or less the way I'm used to in Flex (I stopped using Flash around v8). Meaning, OOP, MVP, etc.. http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideMvpActivitiesAndPlaces.html http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/articles/mvp-architecture.html If you look at this project structure: http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/images/contacts-project-hierarchy.png That's almost exactly what it would look like in Flex when using Cairngorm for instance, but without the Command pattern. There's libraries out there that do have a Command implementation. And with GWT you can use a declarative xml like structure for layout, close to Flex' MXML: http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideUiBinder.html So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the developing process is faster than any other thing done in another programming language? I hear ya ! I just love Flex, I really do. The thing is, in a few years time (I'm guessing) plugins will be a thing of the past. Windows 8 is already moving in that direction. So it will simply be a matter of: "we don't have a choice." I mentioned this on FlexCoders already. If Adobe - moving away from the Flash plugin - would make FlashBuilder into something that spits out HTML/JS web apps much like GWT now does with Java, I'd be all over it. And I'm sure I'm not the only one :) The power and beauty of ActionScript+MXML to build the apps we're used to and not having to touch the ugliness that is JS/HTML. That'd be my wish for 2012 :) regards, Muzak - Original Message ----- From: "Ima Newsletta" To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick Thanks Muzak, Very interesting links! However I said "easily" :-) With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on Flash and I do not want to! In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the new devices. So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the developing process is faster than any other thing done in another programming language? So right now, I stay with Flash. Happy new year to everyone. Il 31/12/2011 03:27, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: Sorry for the late reply.. With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps and ios apps? Yup, except for desktop. Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps. Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps with GWT yet. Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need. Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007. http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has changed (improved) since then. And there's all sorts of additional libraries available for all kinds of development. Smart GWT: http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/ GWT Mobile: http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mobile-webkit/ Ext GWT: http://www.sencha.com/products/extgwt/ etc.. As for desktop apps, you could wrap your GWT with AIR :) regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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my take on this is that you shouldn't be scared to learn a new language, they come and go, your long experience in flash is also a long experience in programming gui's and games and apps. the fundamentals of all these things stay the same, no matter what the language. your experience is not wasted. i actually think it's pretty funny that some of the canvas examples that some people are really impressed with could have been done easily in flash 5 ;) so in some ways you will be ahead of the game a little bit too. On 31 December 2011 10:12, Ima Newsletta wrote: > Thanks Muzak, > Very interesting links! > > However I said "easily" :-) > With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another > programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something > new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on > Flash and I do not want to! > > In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the > new devices. > > So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? > Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? > What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 > (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to > iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the > developing process is faster than any other thing done in another > programming language? > > So right now, I stay with Flash. > > Happy new year to everyone. > > > Il 31/12/2011 03:27, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: > > Sorry for the late reply.. >> >> With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android >>> apps and ios apps? >>> >> >> Yup, except for desktop. >> >> Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps. >> Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps with GWT yet. >> >> Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need. >> >> Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007. >> http://code.google.com/intl/**en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-**iphone.html<http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html> >> The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has >> changed (improved) since then. >> >> And there's all sorts of additional libraries available for all kinds of >> development. >> Smart GWT: >> http://code.google.com/p/**smartgwt/<http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/> >> GWT Mobile: >> http://code.google.com/p/gwt-**mobile-webkit/<http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mobile-webkit/> >> Ext GWT: >> http://www.sencha.com/**products/extgwt/<http://www.sencha.com/products/extgwt/> >> etc.. >> >> As for desktop apps, you could wrap your GWT with AIR :) >> >> regards, >> Muzak >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ima Newsletta" < >> bignewsletter...@gmail.com> >> To: "Flash Coders List" >> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:29 AM >> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick >> >> >> If you leave that chick, she can be all mine then. >>> With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android >>> apps and ios apps? >>> >>> >>> Il 29/12/2011 05:32, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: >>> >>>> Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as >>>>> long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next >>>>> true love. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Already found mine. She's called GWT and she rocks. Still a bit rough >>>> around the edges, but she's getting there. >>>> Now if Flex (FlashBuilder) would do the things GWT does, I'd be willing >>>> to take her back. >>>> >>>> And oh yeah, if you wanna hang with GWT, you have to get in bed with >>>> Java as well.. but I don't mind that at all :) >>>> >>>> Muzak >>>> >>>> ps: GWT -> Google Web Toolkit >>>> http://code.google.com/intl/**en/webtoolkit/<http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/> >>>> >>> >> __**_ >> Flashcoders mailing list >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.**com >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/**mailman/listinfo/flashcoders<http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders> >> > > __**_ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.**com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/**mailman/listinfo/flashcoders<http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders> > ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Thanks Muzak, Very interesting links! However I said "easily" :-) With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on Flash and I do not want to! In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the new devices. So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash? Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"? What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the developing process is faster than any other thing done in another programming language? So right now, I stay with Flash. Happy new year to everyone. Il 31/12/2011 03:27, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: Sorry for the late reply.. With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps and ios apps? Yup, except for desktop. Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps. Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps with GWT yet. Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need. Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007. http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has changed (improved) since then. And there's all sorts of additional libraries available for all kinds of development. Smart GWT: http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/ GWT Mobile: http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mobile-webkit/ Ext GWT: http://www.sencha.com/products/extgwt/ etc.. As for desktop apps, you could wrap your GWT with AIR :) regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: "Ima Newsletta" To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick If you leave that chick, she can be all mine then. With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps and ios apps? Il 29/12/2011 05:32, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. Already found mine. She's called GWT and she rocks. Still a bit rough around the edges, but she's getting there. Now if Flex (FlashBuilder) would do the things GWT does, I'd be willing to take her back. And oh yeah, if you wanna hang with GWT, you have to get in bed with Java as well.. but I don't mind that at all :) Muzak ps: GWT -> Google Web Toolkit http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Sorry for the late reply.. With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps and ios apps? Yup, except for desktop. Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps. Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps with GWT yet. Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need. Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007. http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has changed (improved) since then. And there's all sorts of additional libraries available for all kinds of development. Smart GWT: http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/ GWT Mobile: http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mobile-webkit/ Ext GWT: http://www.sencha.com/products/extgwt/ etc.. As for desktop apps, you could wrap your GWT with AIR :) regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: "Ima Newsletta" To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick If you leave that chick, she can be all mine then. With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps and ios apps? Il 29/12/2011 05:32, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. Already found mine. She's called GWT and she rocks. Still a bit rough around the edges, but she's getting there. Now if Flex (FlashBuilder) would do the things GWT does, I'd be willing to take her back. And oh yeah, if you wanna hang with GWT, you have to get in bed with Java as well.. but I don't mind that at all :) Muzak ps: GWT -> Google Web Toolkit http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Hi John, I do not have anything against Mac or Apple. I just said that because in order to make my work, I'm forced to buy or to find a Mac and it's not a nice thing seen that I have already bought an iPad, an iPhone and an Android device. Happy new year to you too. Il 29/12/2011 17:56, John R. Sweeney Jr. ha scritto: Well the Windows world has looked down on and tried to keep the MAC's on the outside looking in, its just a turning of the tables. MAC couldn't play in their playground, so they made their own and now everyone wants to play there. :) Not trying to start a MAC vs PC discussion, but it is a little ironic. And I have to admit, its nice to not be the underdog this time. BTW, H:)ppy New Year to everyone and may it be a profitable and successful year for all of us. Take care, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Dec 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Ima Newsletta wrote: because you can do this only from a Mac (IMHO this is a really stupid and fascist thing). ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Well the Windows world has looked down on and tried to keep the MAC's on the outside looking in, its just a turning of the tables. MAC couldn't play in their playground, so they made their own and now everyone wants to play there. :) Not trying to start a MAC vs PC discussion, but it is a little ironic. And I have to admit, its nice to not be the underdog this time. BTW, H:)ppy New Year to everyone and may it be a profitable and successful year for all of us. Take care, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Dec 29, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Ima Newsletta wrote: > because you can do this only from a Mac (IMHO this is a really stupid and > fascist thing). ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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You can do nearly all from windows. Obviously from windows you cannot upload your brand new app to the apple store because you can do this only from a Mac (IMHO this is a really stupid and fascist thing). However, while you develop, you can test your app on your iPad/iPhone by building them from Windows, only the final upload must be done by a Mac. And just one final thing: your app is not converted in html 5, it is pure flash that runs on a air virtual machine on iOs. The good news is that the air runtime is contained inside your app so you do not have to worry about nothing. Instead in Android, you can do everything from Windows, moreover you can do all from within the Flash IDE (if you do not use native extensions). Il 29/12/2011 17:08, Karina Steffens ha scritto: That's great news. I have no wish to learn objective c, and only about to dip my toes in html5. So this sounds like a great way to get into the app market. One more thing - can all this be done on windows? I read that for native/html5 conversion you need to install the sdk, which only works on osx. On 29 Dec 2011, at 14:59, Ima Newsletta wrote: Hello Karina, Yes you can make great apps for iOs in Flash. For example have a look at this: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2011/09/flash-based-machinarium-game-is-now-1-ipad-app-delivered-using-adobe-air.html And I have to tell you that I'm really amazed by the performances. Obviously you can't move 3216532156312768312 animated movieclips on the screen at the same time but the result is pretty good. And remember, in no time you can deploy it for Android, in no time really! I have developed a tetris-like game (banned from android market because of its name so I never tried to put it on apple store) You can see it in action here on iPad, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFjfNTU4BIE Although it's a quite simple game, it's not so simple to code and it has animations, musics, sound effects and also it stores data on a sqlite db. It works great on iPad. Il 29/12/2011 15:31, Karina Steffens ha scritto: "- spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code comply with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er )" That's exactly how I feel reading my latest howto book, "HTML5& CSS3 for the real world"! It seems like you nearly have to code 3-4 different websites just to make it work, and that's _with_ scrips like Modernizr. Don't get me started about gradients, for one thing... But you can really export to iTunes store from Flash now and have it accepted? How complex can your app be, or is it simple animations? It's (almost) something to consider upgrading for, to get into app development. On 29 Dec 2011, at 10:56, Cédric Muller wrote: ... so long everyone forgot about :) I feel the current debate to be kind of weird, but that's how things 'are' if you listen to the trend. Trend. I always was drawn /away/ from the Site of the Day or FWA awards: if you look at these sites, a good part of them were just 'bells and whistles' and less few were amazing apps or new ways to visualize information (remember the 2advanced site ? many of us came to flash because of such awful and crappy designs: we were wrong). Question is: are we wrong again today ? Now, in 2011: I build stronger, faster, more secure apps using Flash than I ever did (doing AS since mid-2000). It is quite effective, but Flash is better when you need to do something /else/ than: - displaying a video (even if now we can have thousands of video containers like quick'fail big'time and could argue that flash is still the best way to deliver video, but hey we have got fallbacks now lol) - throwing dumb interfaces into 3D sliding cubes that bounce off the mouse/touch - bells and whistles, bells and whistles, ... - experiments: flash is a mature tech now, there aren't many roads left to explore. - building interfaces with 3 big words and one huge text input - spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code comply with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er ) - fame, fame, fame and fame ^ that's the problem with Flash now: when you do some, you don't get fame back as 'you' used to get. But hey, seriously ? fame ?!? ... but if you want to be effective, build things that can actually be used by corporations or people who need to, flash is still a very good partner. It is reliable when you know it to the bone. As an example, yesterday evening I started building a game from scratch. I already have the board tiles system working, I am now placing units, and will begin combats resolution in the afternoon. All in one, less than a day I have more than a proto working. I am not saying any other tech wouldn't let me do the exact same thing, but my mind is quite mono maniac, so I prefer using Flash from scratch to end, and with only one source I can almost deploy to any platform (except the Amiga, well ... that's a real
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That's great news. I have no wish to learn objective c, and only about to dip my toes in html5. So this sounds like a great way to get into the app market. One more thing - can all this be done on windows? I read that for native/html5 conversion you need to install the sdk, which only works on osx. On 29 Dec 2011, at 14:59, Ima Newsletta wrote: > Hello Karina, > Yes you can make great apps for iOs in Flash. > For example have a look at this: > http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2011/09/flash-based-machinarium-game-is-now-1-ipad-app-delivered-using-adobe-air.html > > And I have to tell you that I'm really amazed by the performances. > Obviously you can't move 3216532156312768312 animated movieclips on the > screen at the same time but the result is pretty good. > And remember, in no time you can deploy it for Android, in no time really! > > I have developed a tetris-like game (banned from android market because of > its name so I never tried to put it on apple store) > You can see it in action here on iPad, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFjfNTU4BIE > Although it's a quite simple game, it's not so simple to code and it has > animations, musics, sound effects and also it stores data on a sqlite db. > It works great on iPad. > > > > > Il 29/12/2011 15:31, Karina Steffens ha scritto: >> "- spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code >> comply with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er )" >> >> That's exactly how I feel reading my latest howto book, "HTML5& CSS3 for >> the real world"! It seems like you nearly have to code 3-4 different >> websites just to make it work, and that's _with_ scrips like Modernizr. >> Don't get me started about gradients, for one thing... >> >> But you can really export to iTunes store from Flash now and have it >> accepted? How complex can your app be, or is it simple animations? It's >> (almost) something to consider upgrading for, to get into app development. >> >> >> >> On 29 Dec 2011, at 10:56, Cédric Muller wrote: >> >>> ... so long everyone forgot about :) >>> >>> I feel the current debate to be kind of weird, but that's how things 'are' >>> if you listen to the trend. >>> Trend. I always was drawn /away/ from the Site of the Day or FWA awards: if >>> you look at these sites, a good part of them were just 'bells and whistles' >>> and less few were amazing apps or new ways to visualize information >>> (remember the 2advanced site ? many of us came to flash because of such >>> awful and crappy designs: we were wrong). Question is: are we wrong again >>> today ? >>> >>> Now, in 2011: I build stronger, faster, more secure apps using Flash than I >>> ever did (doing AS since mid-2000). It is quite effective, but Flash is >>> better when you need to do something /else/ than: >>> - displaying a video (even if now we can have thousands of video containers >>> like quick'fail big'time and could argue that flash is still the best way >>> to deliver video, but hey we have got fallbacks now lol) >>> - throwing dumb interfaces into 3D sliding cubes that bounce off the >>> mouse/touch >>> - bells and whistles, bells and whistles, ... >>> - experiments: flash is a mature tech now, there aren't many roads left to >>> explore. >>> - building interfaces with 3 big words and one huge text input >>> - spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code >>> comply with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er ) >>> - fame, fame, fame and fame >>> ^ that's the problem with Flash now: when you do some, you don't get fame >>> back as 'you' used to get. But hey, seriously ? fame ?!? >>> >>> ... but if you want to be effective, build things that can actually be used >>> by corporations or people who need to, flash is still a very good partner. >>> It is reliable when you know it to the bone. >>> >>> As an example, yesterday evening I started building a game from scratch. I >>> already have the board tiles system working, I am now placing units, and >>> will begin combats resolution in the afternoon. >>> All in one, less than a day I have more than a proto working. >>> >>> I am not saying any other tech wouldn't let me do the exact same thing, but >>> my mind is quite mono maniac, so I prefer using Flash from scratch to end, >>> and with only one source I can almost deploy to any platform (except the >>> Amiga, well ... that's a really sad news) >>> >>> Nice part is when I will plug my game to haXe in order to make it try to >>> morph into an html5 app (but that is just for the lulz) >>> >>> Yet, I feel that Adobe is amazingly lost. I am happy that she left me, so I >>> don't have to deal with the breakup (yea, lol, I am coward when it comes to >>> letting someone go), but I am still fully happy using Flash :) >>> >>> >>> On 29/12/2011 10:01, Karina Steffens wrote: > ios apps? Since when does the apple store allow apps compiled from Flas
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Hello Karina, Yes you can make great apps for iOs in Flash. For example have a look at this: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2011/09/flash-based-machinarium-game-is-now-1-ipad-app-delivered-using-adobe-air.html And I have to tell you that I'm really amazed by the performances. Obviously you can't move 3216532156312768312 animated movieclips on the screen at the same time but the result is pretty good. And remember, in no time you can deploy it for Android, in no time really! I have developed a tetris-like game (banned from android market because of its name so I never tried to put it on apple store) You can see it in action here on iPad, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFjfNTU4BIE Although it's a quite simple game, it's not so simple to code and it has animations, musics, sound effects and also it stores data on a sqlite db. It works great on iPad. Il 29/12/2011 15:31, Karina Steffens ha scritto: "- spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code comply with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er )" That's exactly how I feel reading my latest howto book, "HTML5& CSS3 for the real world"! It seems like you nearly have to code 3-4 different websites just to make it work, and that's _with_ scrips like Modernizr. Don't get me started about gradients, for one thing... But you can really export to iTunes store from Flash now and have it accepted? How complex can your app be, or is it simple animations? It's (almost) something to consider upgrading for, to get into app development. On 29 Dec 2011, at 10:56, Cédric Muller wrote: ... so long everyone forgot about :) I feel the current debate to be kind of weird, but that's how things 'are' if you listen to the trend. Trend. I always was drawn /away/ from the Site of the Day or FWA awards: if you look at these sites, a good part of them were just 'bells and whistles' and less few were amazing apps or new ways to visualize information (remember the 2advanced site ? many of us came to flash because of such awful and crappy designs: we were wrong). Question is: are we wrong again today ? Now, in 2011: I build stronger, faster, more secure apps using Flash than I ever did (doing AS since mid-2000). It is quite effective, but Flash is better when you need to do something /else/ than: - displaying a video (even if now we can have thousands of video containers like quick'fail big'time and could argue that flash is still the best way to deliver video, but hey we have got fallbacks now lol) - throwing dumb interfaces into 3D sliding cubes that bounce off the mouse/touch - bells and whistles, bells and whistles, ... - experiments: flash is a mature tech now, there aren't many roads left to explore. - building interfaces with 3 big words and one huge text input - spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code comply with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er ) - fame, fame, fame and fame ^ that's the problem with Flash now: when you do some, you don't get fame back as 'you' used to get. But hey, seriously ? fame ?!? ... but if you want to be effective, build things that can actually be used by corporations or people who need to, flash is still a very good partner. It is reliable when you know it to the bone. As an example, yesterday evening I started building a game from scratch. I already have the board tiles system working, I am now placing units, and will begin combats resolution in the afternoon. All in one, less than a day I have more than a proto working. I am not saying any other tech wouldn't let me do the exact same thing, but my mind is quite mono maniac, so I prefer using Flash from scratch to end, and with only one source I can almost deploy to any platform (except the Amiga, well ... that's a really sad news) Nice part is when I will plug my game to haXe in order to make it try to morph into an html5 app (but that is just for the lulz) Yet, I feel that Adobe is amazingly lost. I am happy that she left me, so I don't have to deal with the breakup (yea, lol, I am coward when it comes to letting someone go), but I am still fully happy using Flash :) On 29/12/2011 10:01, Karina Steffens wrote: ios apps? Since when does the apple store allow apps compiled from Flash? If only... Since a long, long time. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Since September 9th, 2010? Applications Created in Adobe Flash CS5 Are Allowed to iPhone http://cs5.org/?p=1247 On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Karina Steffens wrote: > ios apps? Since when does the apple store allow apps compiled from Flash? If > only... ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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"- spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code comply with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er )" That's exactly how I feel reading my latest howto book, "HTML5 & CSS3 for the real world"! It seems like you nearly have to code 3-4 different websites just to make it work, and that's _with_ scrips like Modernizr. Don't get me started about gradients, for one thing... But you can really export to iTunes store from Flash now and have it accepted? How complex can your app be, or is it simple animations? It's (almost) something to consider upgrading for, to get into app development. On 29 Dec 2011, at 10:56, Cédric Muller wrote: > ... so long everyone forgot about :) > > I feel the current debate to be kind of weird, but that's how things 'are' if > you listen to the trend. > Trend. I always was drawn /away/ from the Site of the Day or FWA awards: if > you look at these sites, a good part of them were just 'bells and whistles' > and less few were amazing apps or new ways to visualize information (remember > the 2advanced site ? many of us came to flash because of such awful and > crappy designs: we were wrong). Question is: are we wrong again today ? > > Now, in 2011: I build stronger, faster, more secure apps using Flash than I > ever did (doing AS since mid-2000). It is quite effective, but Flash is > better when you need to do something /else/ than: > - displaying a video (even if now we can have thousands of video containers > like quick'fail big'time and could argue that flash is still the best way to > deliver video, but hey we have got fallbacks now lol) > - throwing dumb interfaces into 3D sliding cubes that bounce off the > mouse/touch > - bells and whistles, bells and whistles, ... > - experiments: flash is a mature tech now, there aren't many roads left to > explore. > - building interfaces with 3 big words and one huge text input > - spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code comply > with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er ) > - fame, fame, fame and fame > ^ that's the problem with Flash now: when you do some, you don't get fame > back as 'you' used to get. But hey, seriously ? fame ?!? > > ... but if you want to be effective, build things that can actually be used > by corporations or people who need to, flash is still a very good partner. It > is reliable when you know it to the bone. > > As an example, yesterday evening I started building a game from scratch. I > already have the board tiles system working, I am now placing units, and will > begin combats resolution in the afternoon. > All in one, less than a day I have more than a proto working. > > I am not saying any other tech wouldn't let me do the exact same thing, but > my mind is quite mono maniac, so I prefer using Flash from scratch to end, > and with only one source I can almost deploy to any platform (except the > Amiga, well ... that's a really sad news) > > Nice part is when I will plug my game to haXe in order to make it try to > morph into an html5 app (but that is just for the lulz) > > Yet, I feel that Adobe is amazingly lost. I am happy that she left me, so I > don't have to deal with the breakup (yea, lol, I am coward when it comes to > letting someone go), but I am still fully happy using Flash :) > > > >> On 29/12/2011 10:01, Karina Steffens wrote: >>> ios apps? Since when does the apple store allow apps compiled from Flash? >>> If only... >> Since a long, long time. > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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... so long everyone forgot about :) I feel the current debate to be kind of weird, but that's how things 'are' if you listen to the trend. Trend. I always was drawn /away/ from the Site of the Day or FWA awards: if you look at these sites, a good part of them were just 'bells and whistles' and less few were amazing apps or new ways to visualize information (remember the 2advanced site ? many of us came to flash because of such awful and crappy designs: we were wrong). Question is: are we wrong again today ? Now, in 2011: I build stronger, faster, more secure apps using Flash than I ever did (doing AS since mid-2000). It is quite effective, but Flash is better when you need to do something /else/ than: - displaying a video (even if now we can have thousands of video containers like quick'fail big'time and could argue that flash is still the best way to deliver video, but hey we have got fallbacks now lol) - throwing dumb interfaces into 3D sliding cubes that bounce off the mouse/touch - bells and whistles, bells and whistles, ... - experiments: flash is a mature tech now, there aren't many roads left to explore. - building interfaces with 3 big words and one huge text input - spending tens of tens of hours of work trying to make your new code comply with the browsers ecosystem (is that ... a work ? er ) - fame, fame, fame and fame ^ that's the problem with Flash now: when you do some, you don't get fame back as 'you' used to get. But hey, seriously ? fame ?!? ... but if you want to be effective, build things that can actually be used by corporations or people who need to, flash is still a very good partner. It is reliable when you know it to the bone. As an example, yesterday evening I started building a game from scratch. I already have the board tiles system working, I am now placing units, and will begin combats resolution in the afternoon. All in one, less than a day I have more than a proto working. I am not saying any other tech wouldn't let me do the exact same thing, but my mind is quite mono maniac, so I prefer using Flash from scratch to end, and with only one source I can almost deploy to any platform (except the Amiga, well ... that's a really sad news) Nice part is when I will plug my game to haXe in order to make it try to morph into an html5 app (but that is just for the lulz) Yet, I feel that Adobe is amazingly lost. I am happy that she left me, so I don't have to deal with the breakup (yea, lol, I am coward when it comes to letting someone go), but I am still fully happy using Flash :) > On 29/12/2011 10:01, Karina Steffens wrote: >> ios apps? Since when does the apple store allow apps compiled from Flash? If >> only... > Since a long, long time. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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On 29/12/2011 10:01, Karina Steffens wrote: ios apps? Since when does the apple store allow apps compiled from Flash? If only... Since a long, long time. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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ios apps? Since when does the apple store allow apps compiled from Flash? If only... On 29 Dec 2011, at 07:29, Ima Newsletta wrote: > If you leave that chick, she can be all mine then. > With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps > and ios apps? > > > Il 29/12/2011 05:32, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: >>> Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as >>> she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. >>> >> >> Already found mine. She's called GWT and she rocks. Still a bit rough around >> the edges, but she's getting there. >> Now if Flex (FlashBuilder) would do the things GWT does, I'd be willing to >> take her back. >> >> And oh yeah, if you wanna hang with GWT, you have to get in bed with Java as >> well.. but I don't mind that at all :) >> >> Muzak >> >> ps: GWT -> Google Web Toolkit >> http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/ >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Ross Sclafani" >> To: "Flash Coders List" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:11 PM >> Subject: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick >> >> >>> Every time I get an email from Adobe, it's like a booty call from that sexy >>> chick I used to go out with. She may not be perfect, but she was usually >>> good to go and was always willing to try new things. Now she has this hot >>> new friend I've been messing with, and I can tell they're just about to >>> ménage, so still I take the calls now and then just to make sure she's >>> keeping herself in good shape and getting on with my new chick. >>> Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as >>> she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. >>> >>> Ross P. Sclafani >>> >>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:18 PM, "Merrill, Jason" >>> wrote: >>> I asked myself something today. Why does it feel like whenever I get marketing e-mails from Adobe, it feels like an out-of-the-blue friendly text message from an ex-girlfriend. One who I used to love and was awesome, but now I want nothing to do with other than the occasional stalking on Facebook to see if she married some loser and has let herself go. Oh wait, I know why. Jason Merrill >> >> ___ >> Flashcoders mailing list >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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If you leave that chick, she can be all mine then. With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android apps and ios apps? Il 29/12/2011 05:32, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto: Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. Already found mine. She's called GWT and she rocks. Still a bit rough around the edges, but she's getting there. Now if Flex (FlashBuilder) would do the things GWT does, I'd be willing to take her back. And oh yeah, if you wanna hang with GWT, you have to get in bed with Java as well.. but I don't mind that at all :) Muzak ps: GWT -> Google Web Toolkit http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/ - Original Message - From: "Ross Sclafani" To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:11 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick Every time I get an email from Adobe, it's like a booty call from that sexy chick I used to go out with. She may not be perfect, but she was usually good to go and was always willing to try new things. Now she has this hot new friend I've been messing with, and I can tell they're just about to ménage, so still I take the calls now and then just to make sure she's keeping herself in good shape and getting on with my new chick. Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. Ross P. Sclafani On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:18 PM, "Merrill, Jason" wrote: I asked myself something today. Why does it feel like whenever I get marketing e-mails from Adobe, it feels like an out-of-the-blue friendly text message from an ex-girlfriend. One who I used to love and was awesome, but now I want nothing to do with other than the occasional stalking on Facebook to see if she married some loser and has let herself go. Oh wait, I know why. Jason Merrill ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. Already found mine. She's called GWT and she rocks. Still a bit rough around the edges, but she's getting there. Now if Flex (FlashBuilder) would do the things GWT does, I'd be willing to take her back. And oh yeah, if you wanna hang with GWT, you have to get in bed with Java as well.. but I don't mind that at all :) Muzak ps: GWT -> Google Web Toolkit http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/ - Original Message - From: "Ross Sclafani" To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:11 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick Every time I get an email from Adobe, it's like a booty call from that sexy chick I used to go out with. She may not be perfect, but she was usually good to go and was always willing to try new things. Now she has this hot new friend I've been messing with, and I can tell they're just about to ménage, so still I take the calls now and then just to make sure she's keeping herself in good shape and getting on with my new chick. Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. Ross P. Sclafani On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:18 PM, "Merrill, Jason" wrote: I asked myself something today. Why does it feel like whenever I get marketing e-mails from Adobe, it feels like an out-of-the-blue friendly text message from an ex-girlfriend. One who I used to love and was awesome, but now I want nothing to do with other than the occasional stalking on Facebook to see if she married some loser and has let herself go. Oh wait, I know why. Jason Merrill ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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+1 I laughed so hard I popped an eyeball.. I'm going to go tuck it back in and get back to my jQuery now. Karl On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: Hahahaa!! Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning ___ -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com ] On Behalf Of Ross Sclafani Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 1:11 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick Every time I get an email from Adobe, it's like a booty call from that sexy chick I used to go out with. She may not be perfect, but she was usually good to go and was always willing to try new things. Now she has this hot new friend I've been messing with, and I can tell they're just about to ménage, so still I take the calls now and then just to make sure she's keeping herself in good shape and getting on with my new chick. Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. Ross P. Sclafani Owner / Creative Director Neuromantic Industries http://www.neuromantic.com http://ross.sclafani.net http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani 347.204.5714 On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:18 PM, "Merrill, Jason" > wrote: I asked myself something today. Why does it feel like whenever I get marketing e-mails from Adobe, it feels like an out-of-the-blue friendly text message from an ex-girlfriend. One who I used to love and was awesome, but now I want nothing to do with other than the occasional stalking on Facebook to see if she married some loser and has let herself go. Oh wait, I know why. Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning ___ -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, in litigation and as required by law. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or free of errors or viruses. References to "Sender" are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you consent to the foregoing. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender ma
RE: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick
Hahahaa!! Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning ___ -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Ross Sclafani Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 1:11 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick Every time I get an email from Adobe, it's like a booty call from that sexy chick I used to go out with. She may not be perfect, but she was usually good to go and was always willing to try new things. Now she has this hot new friend I've been messing with, and I can tell they're just about to ménage, so still I take the calls now and then just to make sure she's keeping herself in good shape and getting on with my new chick. Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next true love. Ross P. Sclafani Owner / Creative Director Neuromantic Industries http://www.neuromantic.com http://ross.sclafani.net http://www.twitter.com/rosssclafani 347.204.5714 On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:18 PM, "Merrill, Jason" wrote: > I asked myself something today. Why does it feel like whenever I get > marketing e-mails from Adobe, it feels like an out-of-the-blue friendly text > message from an ex-girlfriend. One who I used to love and was awesome, but > now I want nothing to do with other than the occasional stalking on Facebook > to see if she married some loser and has let herself go. > > Oh wait, I know why. > > Jason Merrill > Instructional Technology Architect II > Bank of America Global Learning > > > > > > ___ > > -- > This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, > confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please > notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and > attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the > taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached > to this message is prohibited. > Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a > solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or > service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official > statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, > monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its > networks/systems and may produce any such EC to regulators, law enforcement, > in litigation and as required by law. > The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of > EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than > the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be > secure or free of errors or viruses. > > References to "Sender" are references to any subsidiary of Bank of America > Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are > Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a > Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal > Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this EC may have additional > important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is > subject to terms available at the following link: > http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. By messaging with Sender you > consent to the foregoing. > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- This message w/attachments (message) is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or proprietary. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, and then please delete and destroy all copies and attachments, and be advised that any review or dissemination of, or the taking of any action in reliance on, the information contained in or attached to this message is prohibited. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Sender. Subject to applicable law, Sender may intercept, monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems and may produce any
