[flexcoders] Re: complex object in cairngorm

2006-07-23 Thread Tim Hoff



Hi Robert,
On the server side you can design your data model as a relational database.  In your case, the flat tables would be:
Group:    groupId,    groupName
Product:    productId,    groupId,    productName,    imageURL,    price
Model:    modelId,    productId,    color
This is a similar structure to the VO, but isn't limited to one VO definition.You can construct and deconstruct the VO's sent and received from the application with either SQL queries, stored procedures, CFC's, or whatever method your server side technolgy uses.   This is just one approach; java-based back-ends can be a little more integrated.  But, by keeping the server-side data in relational tables, you add a little more flexibility for future needs.
-TH--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Robert Wąs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> In the examples that i know i not found solution how persist complex > objects in server side (for me sql) storage. For example following > structure:> Group> -name> Product> -name> -imageURL> -price> Model> -color> Group has 1...n Products, Product has 1...n Models> Temporary i have VO for every objects, but VO are bloated if i use it in > different context, for example sometimes my Product should has image> I manage that structure view in swf but if i want persist them that > should i do - just send whole tree to server via VO and create sql > queries? I use cairngorm, amfphp.> > -- > Robert Was>

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[flexcoders] TypeError when using removedEffect on custom component within Repeater

2006-07-23 Thread m88e24
Flex 2
Player r15 (debug version installed by builder)

A repeater is bound to an ArrayCollection. The ArrayCollection is
dynamically updated. Objects are added and removed at runtime. This
works satisfactory. Now I want the removal of an object to trigger an
effect which is much nicer than just removing an item from the screen
with the blink of an eye. So I use the removedEffect in my custom
component.
The code looks something like this.

My custom component (just the bits that are relevant):
http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml";
creationComplete="initApp()"
currentState="{assistant.availability}" 
horizontalScrollPolicy="off" verticalScrollPolicy="off"
creationCompleteEffect="{appear}"  removedEffect="{disappear}">





 



ow the main application with the repeater (again just the relevant bits):

http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml";
pageTitle="SNS Bank"
layout="absolute" 
horizontalAlign="center" verticalAlign="middle" 
width="800" height="600" 
creationComplete="initApp()" xmlns:local="*">



Re: [flexcoders] FDS: Can I disconnect a specific client from the server?

2006-07-23 Thread Tom Bray



That would work if we could trust that our SWF hasn't been hacked.  We have people trying to hack our clients all the time and they're often the ones we want to disconnect in the first place.  If we relied on the client to disconnect itself, these guys would prevent that message from getting through.
-TomOn 7/23/06, James Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:













  



I can't find anything in the api:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/fds2javadoc/index.html


However, this could be easily achived my sending a message to the flex
client (via messaging) which told the flex app to disconnect.

-James

On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 14:28 -0700, Tom Bray wrote:
> No, I'm talking about disconnecting on the server-side with Java.  In
> other words, getting a reference to the server-side client object
> using the FDS API and disconnecting it.
> 
> -Tom
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/22/06, James Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup. Look into the disconnect() method on Consumer and
> DataService
> objects.
> 
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/langref/mx/messaging/Consumer.html#disconnect()
> 
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/langref/mx/data/DataService.html#disconnect()
> 
> -James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 14:07 -0700, Tom Bray wrote:
> > I'm coming to FDS from FMS2 where I have the ability to
> disconnect any
> > client for any reason -- say after a period of inactivity or
> because
> > an administrator of the chat has banned a user. Can I do
> this in FDS?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  


  















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Re: [flexcoders] Re: I need to be able to disconnect a client from FDS on the server-side using t

2006-07-23 Thread Tom Bray



>why not stick with fms.Our apps get enourmous amounts of usage (MySpace is one of our clients) and we were hoping FDS would scale better.  Using Java instead of single-threaded _javascript_ for our server-side logic should improve things significantly.  If we can support the same features and it scales better, it might end up being cheaper for us than FMS.  Plus, since FMS and FDS have some redundant features and FMS hasn't exactly had an enthusiastic commitment from Macromedia/Adobe over the years, we're somewhat hesitant to build new, even-higher-usage apps on a platform that's being put out to pasture.
I see things like this in the FDS API docs:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/fds2javadoc/flex/management/runtime/messaging/endpoints/rtmp/RTMPServerControlMBean.html#removeConnection(java.lang.String)and it makes me think there's a lot  under the hood that isn't documented well and that might suit our needs.  But I can't get an answer even from our direct contacts at Adobe.  I guess I don't know the magic words.
-TomOn 7/23/06, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:













  



hmmm...The fact that all anyone can really think of are theories suggests to me that FDS may not really be an optimal platform where centralized intelligence is required. It sounds like FMS really still has a strong position for these kinds of apps. Of course FDS does have some nice benefits as it relates to database integration, but for messaging, why not stick with fms. Cheaper too!
RegardsHankOn 7/23/06, Dave Wolf <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ah, a slightly different use-case for sure.I haven't tried it, but I would think I could do this in a filter.When the user should get banned, place a message onto say your JMSbus.  The filter is subscribed to ban messages where the userid = the
current userid.  Now inside the filter I simply get a reference to thesession and call session.invalidate().A bit of theory but feasable, and would work not only for FDS calls,but any call from that client credential.
--Dave WolfCynergy Systems, Inc.Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
http://www.cynergysystems.comhttp://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Office: 866-CYNERGY
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The most common reason we need to disconnect a client is because theuser> has been banned from the chat by an administrator for behaving> inappropriately.  We're an ASP that hosts chat and im apps and we
let our> clients configure timeouts on a per-user basis.  We have to have away to> manage clients on the server like we do in FMS.>> -Tom>> On 7/22/06, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >   > > Placing a J2EE security constraint on the assets in FDS and then> > setting a timout on the J2EE session isnt sufficient?> > 
> >> > --> > Dave Wolf> > Cynergy Systems, Inc.> > Adobe Flex Alliance Partner> > 
http://www.cynergysystems.com> > 
http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs> >> > Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Office: 866-CYNERGY> > --- In 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "JesterXL"  wrote:> > >> > > No good answers here Tom, but this page:
> > > Current page:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/docs/1182.html> > >> > > Says to extend the ServiceAdapter. It apparently calls methods on a
> > MessageService instance. If you look at MessageService, you'll see> > some familiar looking methods, but nothing to disconnect a client.> > >> > > Go here:> > > 
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/fds2javadoc/
> > >> > > And then click on the last entry in the top left frame, and then in
> > the bottom left frame, click on MessageService, and look at themethods.> > >> > > I, like you, have yet to see a comparable client management API like> > FMS, but I have a feeling I'm either "looking for the wrong thing" or
> > "looking in the wrong place".> > >> > > Either way, post if you find anything.> > >> > >> > > - Original Message -> > > From: Tom Bray
> > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:32 PM> > > Subject: [flexcoders] I need to be able to disconnect a client from
> > FDS on the server-side using the Java API.> > >> > >> > > We do this all the time with our FMS2 apps if a client is inactive> > for a certain period of time or an administrator wants to ban them.
> > We can't trust the SWF because we've had people hack them.> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > Tom> > >> >> >> >>
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[flexcoders] item.hasOwnProperty() and treeview

2006-07-23 Thread Barry Beattie
I'm getting a runtime error when I attempt to expand a treeview node

TypeError: Error #1006: Call attempted on an object that is not a function.
at flex_treeview3a/::geticon()

I suspect it's the way I'm using item.hasOwnProperty() but I'm out of ideas.

the "geticon()" function is for the tree's iconFunction. In this I'm trying to

if the node is a leaf ("activity")
   get the activity type, set leaf icon to activity Type icon
else if is root
  set top branch node to root icon
else (must be branch)
   set branch icon

can anyone see what I've got wrong?
thanx

























  private function geticon(item:Object):Class{  
   var i:int = 0;
   var type: String = "";
   var isActivity:Boolean = 
item.hasOwnProperty("@actType");

   if (isActivity){
type = item.getProperty("actType");
   }

   if (type != ""){
switch(type){
case "act_1": return 
iconAct1; break;
case "act_2": return 
iconAct2; break;
case "act_3": return 
iconAct3; break;
case "act_4": return 
iconAct4; break;
case "act_5": return 
iconAct5; break;
default:
return null; break; 
}   
   } else {
   while (item.parent()!=null) {
item = item.parent();
   i++;
   }
   switch (i){
 case 0:
 return iconEvent;
 break;
 default:
 return iconConnect;
 break;
   }
   }
   return null;

  }


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RE: [flexcoders] SWF file licensing

2006-07-23 Thread Matt Chotin












Yep, you can distribute your SWF freely if
you built it using Flex 2 or Flash.  Flex 1.5 may have had different
restrictions, but those shouldn’t matter if you’re starting
development now.

 

Matt

 









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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:12
PM
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Subject: [flexcoders] SWF file
licensing



 







Is there a specific license clause that allows free
distribution of
SWF files? I realize that authoring and rendering tools have to be
blessed by Adobe. But is there a clause in the license agreements or
Adobe FAQ that mentions that SWF file can be freely distributed/copied?

The closest I have seen is this
http://www.adobe.com/licensing/developer/fileformat/faq/#item-1-4

We are starting a new project using Flex 2 in my compnay but legal
would like to get an aswer to this before feeling comfortable. 






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RE: [flexcoders] Updates for Flex 2.0?

2006-07-23 Thread Matt Chotin












I’m not sure if we’ve finalized the
licensing for whether the same license can be used for multiple OS
installations, we’ll know by the time we ship.  We’re not looking to make life
difficult here so I think it will be favorable, but it’s not done yet.

 

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sinatosk
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 8:27
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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Updates
for Flex 2.0?



 







I'm currently using trial for Windows right now If
I was to buy Flex Builder for Windows I've only purchased it for Windows
and NOT Mac OSX and Linux???

I thought it was using eclipse so you could simply plug it in anywhere as long
as the Operating System runs eclipse just like Mozilla Firefox with it's
extensions and ironicly Macromedia/Adobe Flash/Flex ;) except Mozilla Firefox
and Flash Player is free :p ... 

I don't know much about eclipse though :p

If that is the case... I'm only purchasing Linux ( when it gets released )



On 24/07/06, Matt
Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:













I think Mac comes before
we consider Linux and you're right that we need Linux player support before we
can move in that direction.  I'm curious how many of you guys who use
Linux would be willing to pay for such a version?  

 

Matt

 









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On Behalf Of Nick Collins
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006
11:42 AM






To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
[flexcoders] Updates for Flex 2.0?







 







Hey Matt... just curious but what are the chances of
us getting an official build on Linux? I heard some guy in China is
hacking FlexBuilder to get it to work in eclipse on Linux, but it'd be cool if
we had a supported version of this. I can especially see it becoming important
once the Linux Flash Player and Apollo are available. 



On 7/21/06, Matt
Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:













We will certainly be
considering coder features for later releases.  I can't promise what will
be done when as we need to focus on some other things first (like getting it
out on Mac).

 

Matt

 









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[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Sergey Kovalyov
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:24
AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Updates
for Flex 2.0?







 







Just posted there. Sure, it's interesting to know,
whether new
features of IDE will be implemented in next version only or they can
arrive with some kind on Flex 2.0 Update Pack. :)

On 7/20/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Thursday 20 July 2006 15:34, Sergey Kovalyov wrote:
> > Are there any plans regarding updates or add-ons for Flex 2.0 by
> > Adobe?
>
> I imagine so.
> Have you dropped your list in the box at http://adobe.com/go/wish ?
> --
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[flexcoders] disable I-beam in textArea, this should be an EASY ONE!

2006-07-23 Thread JClouz





I have textAreas that I don't want to be 
selectable/display an I-beam on mouseOver.  For the life of me I can't 
figure out how to get rid of the i-beam on the mouseover over a textArea.  
textArea doesn't have a 'selectable' attribute the way text does.  Any 
quick help?  Thanks so much.
 
Jamie
MKCNSC, inc.
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Re: [flexcoders] Anyone know the answer? Embed images in one MovieClip, use in another?

2006-07-23 Thread JesterXL
Don't use SWF's.  Flex 1.5 & 2 have ways to embed them.

[Embed("my1.jpg")]
var my1_img:Class;

[Embed("my1.jpg")]
var my2_img:Class;

[Embed("my1.jpg")]
var my3_img:Class;



Then, have some function swap:

function swapImage(val)
{
img.source = val;
}

swapImage(my1_img);
swapImage(my2_img);
swapImage(my3_img);

You could use setInterval, setTimeout, or Timer to loop through those...

...or use a Flash generated SWF; whatever your fancy.

- Original Message - 
From: "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Anyone know the answer? Embed images in one 
MovieClip, use in another?


This line:



does not load a swf file containing the embedded image
into my application?  That is news to me.

The reason I want to do it is irrelevant to my
question, but here it is:  We have an animation that
loads many images at once (external images).  Even
with the images in the browser's cache it is
drastically slowing down the application.

That embedded images are not loaded is exactly the
point.  We want to load a swf with several images
embedded in it, then use those images in the
animation.  The point is, we want to load the images
dynamically (externally), but not every time we change
the source of Image.  Just one time, ahead of time.

Since when an Image "loads" an embedded image, we are
not actually loading it at all, we are hoping we can
load the container swf one time, then use its images
as embedded images--thus avoiding the immediate load
time every time we change source.

What we want to do, in a nutshell, is load images
dynamically, but all at once, and then just attach
them from that moment on.

The question is, can we attach an image embedded in
the container swf into the loader swf, avoiding the
external image load?  HOW?  The relationship between
attachMovie and Image is very murky.

An example, perhaps based on the code below, would be
very nice, very helpful.  You seem to know a lot about
Flex and Flash, can you help, please?

Thanks,


Greg


--- JesterXL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you embed an image, you're not "loading"
> anything; it's merely attaching
> the img Class to your MovieClip's DisplayList (
> attachMovie in 1.5).  Thus
> there is no point; just bind them all to img since
> they are all using the
> same resource.
>
> External images are a different story.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "greg556" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:08 PM
> Subject: [flexcoders] Embed images in one MovieClip,
> use in another?
>
>
> Hi everyone--
>
> Is it possible to embed images (jpgs) in one
> MovieClip, then load that
> SWF into another MovieClip and use those images in
> the loader? We are
> trying to avoid reloading an image each time we need
> it, but still
> load them dynamically. We'd like to do this: (We're
> using Flex, but
> this is really an AS question I think, about
> accessing resources from
> one SWF in another SWF). This example is in Flex,
> but the real work, I
> expect, is in AS. If you can tell me how to do it in
> AS, I can get it
> working in flex.)
>
> Container.swf:
> 
> 
> [Embed(source="images/myimage.jpg")]
> public var img: String;
> 
> 
>
> Then, load that SWF and use its embedded image:
>
> Loader.swf:
> 
> 
> 
>  source="container.content.img" />
> 
> 
>
> It looks like this should work, and the "resource"
> string is properly
> being passed to the_image (something like
> __Resource.43234564.myimage_jpg) but it cannot
> actually load; we get a
> broken image instead.
>
> I'm guessing I somehow need to register the object
> library of the
> Container.swf with my Loader.swf? How?
>
> Or, is this whole enterprise impossible?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [flexcoders] combox box label issues

2006-07-23 Thread JesterXL
What does your data look like?  Pre 7.0.2, CF uppercases the field names, 
and since Flash Player 7 is case sensitive, FIELDNAME is different than 
fieldName when using ComboBox.labelField.

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Subject: [flexcoders] combox box label issues


Hello --

I am just beginning the flex thing ...

I have a coldfusion CFC returning an array that I want to use to
populate a combobox.

However, I do not know how to specify the label value v. the data
value. All of the examples I have found create s and then
populate them inline. Also, the labelField attribute does not work.

I have wasted my day on this --- what am I missing?

I REALLY appreciate any help.

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Re: [flexcoders] mx:State creationPolicy Oddity

2006-07-23 Thread JesterXL
Whoa... that's whack.  What container are they in?  Maybe try a 
theControl.validateNow() when their show fires?  Or some other event?

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I found a strange behavior with NumericSteppers and DateFields that are
in AddChilds with creationPolicies of "all."  If you view the below swf
and click the "state2" button, you can see that the calendar icon in the
DateField and the NumericStepper's stepper buttons are shrunk from their
normal size.  You can also right-click on the swf and select "View
Source" to recreate the problem.

If you do experiment with this, you can make state1's NumericStepper and
DateField shrink by setting state2 as the currentState on the
Application tag.

This seems like a bug or is there something I don't understand about
creationPolicy?

http://www.thegoosmans.com/flexproblem2/StateCreationPolicyOddity.swf










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Re: [flexcoders] How does attachMovie work?

2006-07-23 Thread JesterXL
attachMovie only applies to Flash Player 8 and below.  Flash Player 9 has a 
totally different mechnism.  Thus, attachMovie has nothing to do with Flex 
2.  Flex 1.5 & 1, it does.

attachMovie is a boilerplate operation.  It takes a MovieClip and places an 
instance of it on a timeline.  Scope in Player 8 is defined by timelines. 
So, _root.attachMovie will attach it to the _root, and my_mc.attachMovie 
will add it as a child of my_mc for example.

Typically, you edit Symbols (MovieClip, Button, Graphic) in the Flash IDE, 
and give them "linkage names".  If a MovieClip does not have a linkage name, 
it cannot be attached.  Even if a MovieClip has a linkage name, it will not 
be exported in the SWF unless the compiler sees it being used somewhere, or 
you export it in first frame.

With the advent of Flash Player 6, we had the Object.registerClass method. 
This allowed you to associate a MovieClip symbol's name (linkage) with a 
class.  That way, as soon as you did an attachMovie, you were not only 
attaching a MovieClip, but that MovieClip also had all the methods & 
properties of the class.  This only worked well if the class extended 
MovieClip (or it's super class did).  We also got initclip for intialization 
order.

Flex 1.5 & 1 handled linkage names nicely.  You can write a class, extend 
some MovieClip or UIObject, and the Flex compiler would handle all the 
construction mess for you.   would auto-magically get built; 
it was really nice.  Symbol names have a 64 character limit, and I think 
class names have some weird limit too.  For assets, the Flex compiler would 
auto-generate ID's for images and other embedded assets via the __Package 
namespace.

More info:
http://www.peterjoel.com/blog/index.php?archive=2004_01_01_archive.xml#107550841406346131

http://swfoo.com/archives/54.html

All of this is meaningless in Flash Player 9, and none of the above should 
you care about unless you're nostalgic or an f'n geek.


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Could someone explain to me, please, in detail, how
attachMovie works?  I understand loadMovie--I can
actually get it to "do" something.  But I have never
been able to get attachMovie to do anything.  Actual
simple examples would be wonderful.  Thank you!


(It's the relationship between a mc's link library and
flex/AS that I can't figure out.  Any additional
insights on that topic would be appreciated as well.)

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Re: [flexcoders] Word Wrap in FlexBuilder

2006-07-23 Thread JesterXL





Text & TextArea I believe has this turned 
on by default, if not turn it on.
 
Label is always one line.
 
TextInput is always one line.
 
 
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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Word Wrap in FlexBuilder
Is there a way to turn on Word Wrap in FlexBuilder?I have 
some long text strings that are used for instructions. Without, Word Wrap, they 
are really hard to edit. And, if I manually insert returns, it messes up the 
formatting when displayed. What's the best practice for handling this 
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[flexcoders] Re: [Flex2] FlexBuilder throws "Removing compiler problem markers"

2006-07-23 Thread Mike Britton
As I was editing my mxml, changing an attribute, Flex Builder hung and
crashed.  When I rebooted it, the project kept throwing that annoying
"compiler problem markers" error.  

To fix it, I copied my relevant files into another project.  I think
the project was corrupted from the crash, but I'm not sure what
element got corrupted.

As a result, I'll be periodically recreating my projects for things
that are really critical.  Just thought I'd report this to the list.


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[flexcoders] combox box label issues

2006-07-23 Thread lrlarsonny
Hello --

I am just beginning the flex thing ...

I have a coldfusion CFC returning an array that I want to use to
populate a combobox.

However, I do not know how to specify the label value v. the data
value. All of the examples I have found create s and then
populate them inline. Also, the labelField attribute does not work.

I have wasted my day on this --- what am I missing?

I REALLY appreciate any help.

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[flexcoders] mx:State creationPolicy Oddity

2006-07-23 Thread gotgoose09
I found a strange behavior with NumericSteppers and DateFields that are
in AddChilds with creationPolicies of "all."  If you view the below swf
and click the "state2" button, you can see that the calendar icon in the
DateField and the NumericStepper's stepper buttons are shrunk from their
normal size.  You can also right-click on the swf and select "View
Source" to recreate the problem.

If you do experiment with this, you can make state1's NumericStepper and
DateField shrink by setting state2 as the currentState on the
Application tag.

This seems like a bug or is there something I don't understand about
creationPolicy?

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Re: [flexcoders] creationPolicy="all" for view states?

2006-07-23 Thread Johannes Nel



there is an add and remove childOn 7/21/06, jeff tapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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RE: [flexcoders] omitted .svn during build

2006-07-23 Thread Engkee Kwang












Thanks… I did see that post…
that’s what I was referring to in my last paragraph. Also the part about
using ANT task to “cleanup”

I’m looking for a solution that does
not require cleaning up… also, I am using the standalone builder…
so I believe that limits my ability to clean up before checking in code.

 

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http://www.jessewarden.com/archives/2006/02/subversion_flex.html

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I use Tortoise SVN as a Subversion client. Flex Builder 2 copies all 
dependencies into the bin directory during build, including the .svn 
subdirectories... creating problem for Tortoise because it gets 
confused by the duplicate and invalid .svn directories copied into the 
bin folder. In addition, because of the .svn directories, it leaves 
behind a lot of empty subdirectories in the bin folder.

Is there a way to tell Flexbuilder2 to _not_ copy directories 
named .svn?

I've read about suggestions to use subclipse but because not all 
developments are in Flex or Eclipse, I prefer to stay with Tortoise.

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[flexcoders] Re: Talking Components

2006-07-23 Thread Michael
Jeremy,

That did the trick, thanks a lot! 

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> Surely it can.
> 
> You can create a MyEvent class which extends Event then add in as many
> properties you want (something like "data"), there's a fine example
in the
> manual about creating custom event.
> 
> When you need to broadcast event from one component to another, just
use:
> 
> comp.dispatchEvent( MyEvent("someEvent", myDataObject) );
> 
> this should do the trick.
> 
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> On 7/22/06, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   I have a Flex app with two custom components. What is the best way
> > for these two components to talk to each other. Pass a reference of
> > one component to the other, databinding, or event broadcast to
each other?
> >
> > I basically have one component that is a list of ID/Names, when I
> > double click, I want the other component to get the ID and retrieve
> > the extended data from the DB. My data is not stored in the
> > main.mxml application. I know in Flash you would use event
> > listeners, but can the event listeners in Flex also send data? The
> > examples I have seen broadcast a message, but they don't seem to send
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[flexcoders] Embbeding a Flash CFReport inside a Flex App

2006-07-23 Thread nigasak
Hi everybody, does anyone knows How to include a ColdFusion Flash 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex AMFPHP and VOs

2006-07-23 Thread Dima Ulich


could you share the code with me too,
I couldn't map vos either
thank in advance
Dmitriy
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I just sent a private mail to you with the code.Oriol Gual wrote:> I'd love to get some code :D>> 2006/7/22, Andrea Varga <[EMAIL PROTECTED] t.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] t.com>>:>> Hi,> I've managed to make it work once, in both directions, also with> Renaun's RemoteObjectAMF0.> As I remember, I had to change something in the AMFPHP code to make it> work from PHP to Flex, but maybe I did something wrong, and it should> have been worked without those changes. I can send you some code> if you> still need them.>> Andi>> Oriol Gual wrote:>> > Well, it wasn't PHP 4, it was my fault. But, I still receive a plain> > Object, not
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[flexcoders] Re: QuickDateFormatter - how can I make it MXML enabled?

2006-07-23 Thread gotgoose09
All you have to do is add public properties like this:

[Bindable]
public var str_dateFormat:String;
[Bindable]
public var str_dateString:String;
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RE: [flexcoders] gradient background color on VBox

2006-07-23 Thread Engkee Kwang












Thanks… I was hoping to avoid going
down that path.

From the absence of alternative response,
sounds like that might the only way…

Seems like a useful feature for Flex’s
builtin components to support.

 

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Override updateDisplayList, and draw it.

http://pastebin.de/9345

8"?>
http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml"
layout="absolute" 
xmlns:local="*">
Background>




tBackground>


8"?>
http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml"
width="400" height="300">







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is there a way to set gradient background color on a VBox.

it does not allow me to specify an array of color on backgroundColor 
property.

same question wrt. background alpha.

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Re: [flexcoders] Anyone know the answer? Embed images in one MovieClip, use in another?

2006-07-23 Thread G
This line:



does not load a swf file containing the embedded image
into my application?  That is news to me.

The reason I want to do it is irrelevant to my
question, but here it is:  We have an animation that
loads many images at once (external images).  Even
with the images in the browser's cache it is
drastically slowing down the application.

That embedded images are not loaded is exactly the
point.  We want to load a swf with several images
embedded in it, then use those images in the
animation.  The point is, we want to load the images
dynamically (externally), but not every time we change
the source of Image.  Just one time, ahead of time.

Since when an Image "loads" an embedded image, we are
not actually loading it at all, we are hoping we can
load the container swf one time, then use its images
as embedded images--thus avoiding the immediate load
time every time we change source.

What we want to do, in a nutshell, is load images
dynamically, but all at once, and then just attach
them from that moment on.

The question is, can we attach an image embedded in
the container swf into the loader swf, avoiding the
external image load?  HOW?  The relationship between
attachMovie and Image is very murky.

An example, perhaps based on the code below, would be
very nice, very helpful.  You seem to know a lot about
Flex and Flash, can you help, please?

Thanks,


Greg


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> If you embed an image, you're not "loading"
> anything; it's merely attaching 
> the img Class to your MovieClip's DisplayList (
> attachMovie in 1.5).  Thus 
> there is no point; just bind them all to img since
> they are all using the 
> same resource.
> 
> External images are a different story.
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> To: 
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> Subject: [flexcoders] Embed images in one MovieClip,
> use in another?
> 
> 
> Hi everyone--
> 
> Is it possible to embed images (jpgs) in one
> MovieClip, then load that
> SWF into another MovieClip and use those images in
> the loader? We are
> trying to avoid reloading an image each time we need
> it, but still
> load them dynamically. We'd like to do this: (We're
> using Flex, but
> this is really an AS question I think, about
> accessing resources from
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> Container.swf:
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> __Resource.43234564.myimage_jpg) but it cannot
> actually load; we get a
> broken image instead.
> 
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> library of the
> Container.swf with my Loader.swf? How?
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[flexcoders] How does attachMovie work?

2006-07-23 Thread G
Could someone explain to me, please, in detail, how
attachMovie works?  I understand loadMovie--I can
actually get it to "do" something.  But I have never
been able to get attachMovie to do anything.  Actual
simple examples would be wonderful.  Thank you!


(It's the relationship between a mc's link library and
flex/AS that I can't figure out.  Any additional
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Populating ComboBox from Model/XML

2006-07-23 Thread John Mazzocchi
Thank you. Much appreciated.

John

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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Populating ComboBox from Model/XML


Hi, here is something that works, if you know cold fusion then 
create a cfc that has the data you want and call it from a 
webservice, other wise populate an xml file and call that.

Step one;
Create xml file - name it mydata.xml



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Step two;
copy and paste this code into flex builder

http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml"; 
layout="absolute">  




  
 


The file myData.xml is used to populate the combo boxes


>From one newbie to another.

Hope this helps

Eric

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[flexcoders] AS3: microphone and computeSpectrum class! please, help!

2006-07-23 Thread geminy555
Hi all!

Is there anyway we can connect microphone to this new computeSpectrum
class?

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[flexcoders] Mutiple values in XML with the same id

2006-07-23 Thread rickarddahlstrand
Hi,

When I export data from rrdtool I get a xml-file with multiple values
with the same element-name (v). Does anyone know of a simple way to
transform the XML before it hits the Chart so that I can have multiple?

Rickard.



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[flexcoders] Flex App Runs in FireFox but not IE...

2006-07-23 Thread deanlovatts
Hello, This is my first post on FlexCoders...
I have been working on a flex/php app for a little while, it was all 
working fine on my work machine, would work in firefox fine, and 
possibly IE if i got flex to pop the post compile page up in IE. 
Otherwise I am unable to open the app up in IE, the actual swf will 
open but it cannot access any remote data (i am using HTTPService).
On the same machine i can open the same file up in firefox and 
everything runs smoothly, try again in IE...no go!
Very frustrating, the error is the 2302 error, i have seen that it is 
giving lots of people trouble as well, I also know the cross domain is 
working fine as the computer i have been coding it on has been working 
fine.
Sometimes i cannot open it on firefox on other computers and it says 
Channel.Security Error...

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[flexcoders] Word Wrap in FlexBuilder

2006-07-23 Thread Clarke Bishop



Is there a way to turn on Word Wrap in FlexBuilder?I have some long text strings that are used for instructions. Without, Word Wrap, they are really hard to edit. And, if I manually insert returns, it messes up the formatting when displayed.
What's the best practice for handling this situation?

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[flexcoders] A very simple XML question

2006-07-23 Thread Joe
Hi all,
I'm very new to Flex so I started to read all the Doc. and Samples 
under the HELP Section.
Now I'm just trying - with no luck - to import from a local xml 
file  some data.

here is my little listino.xml file - saved at the same level of the 
main file named c.mxml.

= listino.xml =



blablabla
blebleble
99.99


blablabla
blebleble
100.99





Then , here is my c.mxml file.
= c.mxml =

http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml"; 
width="600" height="450">















==

If I run it, I get no errors but no data at all.
Any suggestion?

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[flexcoders] SWF file licensing

2006-07-23 Thread ajitparthan
Is there a specific license clause that allows free distribution of
SWF files? I realize that authoring and rendering tools have to be
blessed by Adobe. But is there a clause in the license agreements or
Adobe FAQ that mentions that SWF file can be freely distributed/copied?

The closest I have seen is this
http://www.adobe.com/licensing/developer/fileformat/faq/#item-1-4


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[flexcoders] navigateToURL with multiple links

2006-07-23 Thread Chris Waguespack
I'm trying to make a link button that opens multiple links in
different windows/tabs.
Right now I have click calling this function

private function OpenListings():void{
 var listingData:Array=/*an array of links*/;
 var link:String=new String();
 for each(link in listingData){
  navigateToURL(new URLRequest(link),'_blank');
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This only opens the last link in the array. Is there any way to open
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[flexcoders] complex object in cairngorm

2006-07-23 Thread Robert Wąs
 In the examples that i know i not found solution how persist complex 
objects in server side (for me sql) storage. For example following 
structure:
Group
-name
Product
-name
-imageURL
-price
Model
-color
Group has 1...n Products, Product has 1...n Models
Temporary i have VO for every objects, but VO are bloated if i use it in 
different  context, for example sometimes my Product should has  image
I manage that structure view in swf but if i want persist them that 
should i do - just send whole tree to server via VO and create sql 
queries? I use cairngorm, amfphp.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex AMFPHP and VOs

2006-07-23 Thread Robert Wąs






It is Reanaun's RemoteObjectAMF0, it works form me with php5, cairngorm
0.99, flex2 
Robert Was



Oriol Gual wrote:


  
  Well, it wasn't PHP 4, it was my fault. But, I still receive a
plain Object, not an object of my class. I'm using Renaun's solution to
connect to amfphp, what are you using?
  
Thanks.
  
  
  2006/7/22, Oriol Gual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  
HI,

Thank you for the responses. Using the registar class solved the
problem form flex to php, I thought classes were automatically
registered.

On the other hand Robert, I suppose that you are using PHP 5, does it
worked also on PHP 4?


2006/7/22, Robert Wąs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


  
  registerClassAlias(
"vd.vo.ProductVO", ProductVO )
php:
class ProductVO{
    public $_explicitType="vd.vo.ProductVO";
...
works for me in swf to php and reversed direction
  Robert Was
  
  
  
Oriol Gual wrote:
  

Hi,

I've been using Flex and AMFPHP for a while, but there's one thing that
is driving me nuts: class mapping. 

Has anyone mapped correctly a VO from Flex to PHP with AMFPHP or
viceversa? I've tried several ways, but I all I get are plain objects. 

Any help would be very much appreciated, especially a working example.

Oriol Gual.


 
  
  
  
  
  




  
  
  
  





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[flexcoders] How can I reuse components I have made?

2006-07-23 Thread gotgoose09
I have made some components that I wish to use in multiple projects.  I
put my MSML and AS components into a folder called library, in which
there is ben.controls.TimePicker, ben.validators.URLValidator, etc.  I
looked into using SWCs so I created a Flex Library Project.  In that
project I added my library folder to the Source Path in
Project>Properties>Source Path.  After I saved the project, it generated
a SWC.

Now that I have this SWC, how can I use the components in my Flex
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[flexcoders] Including a CFReport swf in a Flex App

2006-07-23 Thread nigasak
Hi, I want to include a Flash generated Report from CF, into a Window
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[flexcoders] Python / Flex solution

2006-07-23 Thread matt wicks










Hi all,

 

What would any python expert out there
advise as the best solution for integrating Flex with Python? Or even better
FDS with Python? I’, pretty savvy about flsh / flex/cold fusion / asp but
know not a nthing about python so advice v. gratefully received

 

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RE: [flexcoders] Flex Store SendCart()

2006-07-23 Thread Cesar Torrejon
 
Hi I am try to implement function SendCart() for Flex Store Example.
I don´t know how I can send a email with the items selected when click on
Submit Order
 
I am trying to send one Array with this information but my .ASP not work OK.
 
When the user click On Submit Order
 
[Bindable]
private var misItems:Array = [];
 
private function Manda():void{
 var items:Array = productList.items; 
 for (var i:int=0; i < items.length; i++)
{
 var product:Product = items[i].product;

 misItems.push({Nombre:product.name,
Precio:product.price, Cantidad:product.qty}); 
trace(misItems[i].Nombre + "-" + misItems[i].Precio +
"-" + misItems[i].Cantidad);
}
conexion.send(misItems);
   }
 
I configured my HTTPServices
http://localhost/email.asp"; id="conexion" method="POST"
resultFormat="text">
 
 
And then. my .ASP
<%
Set Mail = Server.CreateObject("Persits.MailSender") 

Mail.Host = "smtp.xxx..com"

Mail.From = Request.Form("myemail")

Mail.FromName = "Pepe Lopez"

Mail.AddAddress [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Pepe Lopez"

Mail.Subject = Request.Form("asunto")

Mail.Body = Mail.Body & Request.Form.Count & VbCrLf(If I select 2 phones
for examples Request.Form.Count return "2")


For index = 1 to Request.Form.Count 

Mail.Body = Mail.Body & Request.Form("misItems[index].Nombre" &
index) & VbCrLf 

Mail.Body = Mail.Body & Request.Form("misItems[index].Precio" &
index) & VbCrLf 

Mail.Body = Mail.Body & Request.Form("misItems[index].Cantidad"
& index) & VbCrLf 

next

Mail.Send

%>

I dont know how to stract "misItems[index].Nombre" this value for example
Nokia 3210
 
Please I need your help
 
Thaks To All.
Cesar





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Re: [flexcoders] Updates for Flex 2.0?

2006-07-23 Thread sinatosk



I'm currently using trial for Windows right now If I was to buy Flex Builder for Windows I've only purchased it for Windows and NOT Mac OSX and Linux???I thought it was using eclipse so you could simply plug it in anywhere as long as the Operating System runs eclipse just like Mozilla Firefox with it's extensions and ironicly Macromedia/Adobe Flash/Flex ;) except Mozilla Firefox and Flash Player is free :p ...
I don't know much about eclipse though :pIf that is the case... I'm only purchasing Linux ( when it gets released )On 24/07/06, Matt Chotin
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I think Mac comes before we consider Linux
and you're right that we need Linux player support before we can move in
that direction.  I'm curious how many of you guys who use Linux would be
willing to pay for such a version?  

 

Matt

 









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Hey Matt... just curious but what are the chances of
us getting an official build on Linux? I heard some guy in China is
hacking FlexBuilder to get it to work in eclipse on Linux, but it'd be cool if
we had a supported version of this. I can especially see it becoming important
once the Linux Flash Player and Apollo are available. 



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We will certainly be
considering coder features for later releases.  I can't promise what will
be done when as we need to focus on some other things first (like getting it
out on Mac).


 


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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Updates
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Just posted there. Sure, it's interesting to know,
whether new
features of IDE will be implemented in next version only or they can
arrive with some kind on Flex 2.0 Update Pack. :)

On 7/20/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Thursday 20 July 2006 15:34, Sergey Kovalyov wrote:
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: I need to be able to disconnect a client from FDS on the server-side using t

2006-07-23 Thread hank williams



hmmm...The fact that all anyone can really think of are theories suggests to me that FDS may not really be an optimal platform where centralized intelligence is required. It sounds like FMS really still has a strong position for these kinds of apps. Of course FDS does have some nice benefits as it relates to database integration, but for messaging, why not stick with fms. Cheaper too!
RegardsHankOn 7/23/06, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ah, a slightly different use-case for sure.I haven't tried it, but I would think I could do this in a filter.When the user should get banned, place a message onto say your JMSbus.  The filter is subscribed to ban messages where the userid = the
current userid.  Now inside the filter I simply get a reference to thesession and call session.invalidate().A bit of theory but feasable, and would work not only for FDS calls,but any call from that client credential.
--Dave WolfCynergy Systems, Inc.Adobe Flex Alliance Partnerhttp://www.cynergysystems.comhttp://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Office: 866-CYNERGY--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The most common reason we need to disconnect a client is because theuser> has been banned from the chat by an administrator for behaving> inappropriately.  We're an ASP that hosts chat and im apps and we
let our> clients configure timeouts on a per-user basis.  We have to have away to> manage clients on the server like we do in FMS.>> -Tom>> On 7/22/06, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >   > > Placing a J2EE security constraint on the assets in FDS and then> > setting a timout on the J2EE session isnt sufficient?> > 
> >> > --> > Dave Wolf> > Cynergy Systems, Inc.> > Adobe Flex Alliance Partner> > http://www.cynergysystems.com> > 
http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs> >> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Office: 866-CYNERGY> > --- In 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ,> > "JesterXL"  wrote:> > >> > > No good answers here Tom, but this page:
> > > Current page:http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/docs/1182.html> > >> > > Says to extend the ServiceAdapter. It apparently calls methods on a
> > MessageService instance. If you look at MessageService, you'll see> > some familiar looking methods, but nothing to disconnect a client.> > >> > > Go here:> > > 
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/fds2javadoc/> > >> > > And then click on the last entry in the top left frame, and then in
> > the bottom left frame, click on MessageService, and look at themethods.> > >> > > I, like you, have yet to see a comparable client management API like> > FMS, but I have a feeling I'm either "looking for the wrong thing" or
> > "looking in the wrong place".> > >> > > Either way, post if you find anything.> > >> > >> > > - Original Message -> > > From: Tom Bray
> > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:32 PM> > > Subject: [flexcoders] I need to be able to disconnect a client from
> > FDS on the server-side using the Java API.> > >> > >> > > We do this all the time with our FMS2 apps if a client is inactive> > for a certain period of time or an administrator wants to ban them.
> > We can't trust the SWF because we've had people hack them.> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > Tom> > >> >> >> >>
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RE: [flexcoders] Updates for Flex 2.0?

2006-07-23 Thread Matt Chotin












I think Mac comes before we consider Linux
and you’re right that we need Linux player support before we can move in
that direction.  I’m curious how many of you guys who use Linux would be
willing to pay for such a version?  

 

Matt

 









From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Collins
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006
11:42 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Updates
for Flex 2.0?



 







Hey Matt... just curious but what are the chances of
us getting an official build on Linux? I heard some guy in China is
hacking FlexBuilder to get it to work in eclipse on Linux, but it'd be cool if
we had a supported version of this. I can especially see it becoming important
once the Linux Flash Player and Apollo are available. 



On 7/21/06, Matt
Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:













We will certainly be
considering coder features for later releases.  I can't promise what will
be done when as we need to focus on some other things first (like getting it
out on Mac).

 

Matt

 









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[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Sergey Kovalyov
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:24
AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Updates
for Flex 2.0?







 







Just posted there. Sure, it's interesting to know,
whether new
features of IDE will be implemented in next version only or they can
arrive with some kind on Flex 2.0 Update Pack. :)

On 7/20/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Thursday 20 July 2006 15:34, Sergey Kovalyov wrote:
> > Are there any plans regarding updates or add-ons for Flex 2.0 by
> > Adobe?
>
> I imagine so.
> Have you dropped your list in the box at http://adobe.com/go/wish ?
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex Pricing question

2006-07-23 Thread Matt Chotin












Actually you can host as many applications
as you want on the same FDS Express server.  The key is that the same
application cannot be on multiple servers.

 

Matt

 









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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:30
AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex
Pricing question



 







One application means one flex application. So if you
develop something in Flex 2, once you compile it it becomes a Flex application.
One application means you can have one such application running FDS.

However you can still have as many applications on a server as you want if
they're not using FDS. 



On 7/22/06, Jorge
Tejada < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:











What "One application" means?, Does it means
that I will only can use FDS from a Flex Builder 2 Project?





 



On 7/21/06, Nick Collins <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:











the Eclipse plugin is the same cost as Flex Builder.
As far as that goes, the Eclipse Plugin IS Flexbuilder, as Flex Builder is
really eclipse streamlined and with a different splash screen. In fact, it's
the same installer and you choose which you want to install. 

As far as Flex Data Services, the model is as follows:

Express: free but limited to 1 application on a 1 CPU server, no concurrent
user limit

Departmental: $6000 per CPU, unlimited applications, CPUs limited only to what
you've paid for, 100 concurrent user limit 

Enterprise: MSRP $20,000 per CPU, unlimited applications, CPUs limited only to
what you've paid for, no concurrent user limit (per Matt's comment, nobody pays
list for this but they have to have a number as a starting point) 





 



On 7/21/06, Umesh Garg <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:













Hi,





 





Is the Eclipse plug-in for the Flex-builder free
or I have to pay for it. Can I get this without the
flexbuilder? If yes, what is the cost? 





  





I don't see the price for Flex Data Service on
the site, what's the pricing model for this? I understand the express version
is free to download. What is the limitation of express version? 





 





What's the days-limit for trial flex charting?





 





Thanks





Umesh.





 





 





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RE: [flexcoders] Flex Store SendCart()

2006-07-23 Thread Matt Chotin












Hi, I don’t think sending an Array via
HTTPService like that is going to work.  We don’t serialize an array with
objects like that into an HTTP POST automatically.  What if you built up an XML
object instead and set the contentType to application/xml, then in your ASP you
could parse that and interpret the same thing?

 

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Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 3:45
AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Store
SendCart()



 











Hi I am try to
implement function SendCart() for Flex Store Example.





I don´t know how I can send a email with the items selected when
click on Submit Order





 





I am trying to send one Array with this information but my .ASP
not work OK.





 





When the user click On Submit Order





 





[Bindable]
    private var misItems:Array = [];





 





private function Manda():void{
     var items:Array =
productList.items;     
     for (var i:int=0; i <
items.length; i++)
   
{
   
 var product:Product = items[i].product;   
 
   
 misItems.push({Nombre:product.name, Precio:product.price,
Cantidad:product.qty}); 





   
trace(misItems[i].Nombre + "-" + misItems[i].Precio + "-" +
misItems[i].Cantidad);
   
}





    conexion.send(misItems);





   }





 





I configured my HTTPServices





http://localhost/email.asp" id="conexion"
method="POST" resultFormat="text">





 





 





And then. my .ASP





<%





Set
Mail = Server.CreateObject("Persits.MailSender") 

Mail.Host
= "smtp.xxx..com"

Mail.From
= Request.Form("myemail")

Mail.FromName
= "Pepe Lopez"

Mail.AddAddress
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Pepe Lopez"

Mail.Subject
= Request.Form("asunto")

Mail.Body = Mail.Body & Request.Form.Count
& VbCrLf    (If I select 2 phones for examples
Request.Form.Count return "2")

   
For index = 1 to Request.Form.Count 

   
Mail.Body = Mail.Body & Request.Form("misItems[index].Nombre"
& index) & VbCrLf 

   
Mail.Body = Mail.Body & Request.Form("misItems[index].Precio"
& index) & VbCrLf 

   
Mail.Body = Mail.Body & Request.Form("misItems[index].Cantidad"
& index) & VbCrLf 

   
next

Mail.Send

%>







I dont know how to stract
"misItems[index].Nombre" this value for example Nokia 3210





 





Please I need your help





 





Thaks To All.





Cesar







 








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Re: [flexcoders] FDS: Can I disconnect a specific client from the server?

2006-07-23 Thread James Ward
I can't find anything in the api:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/fds2javadoc/index.html

However, this could be easily achived my sending a message to the flex
client (via messaging) which told the flex app to disconnect.

-James


On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 14:28 -0700, Tom Bray wrote:
> No, I'm talking about disconnecting on the server-side with Java.  In
> other words, getting a reference to the server-side client object
> using the FDS API and disconnecting it.
> 
> -Tom
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/22/06, James Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup. Look into the disconnect() method on Consumer and
> DataService
> objects.
> 
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/langref/mx/messaging/Consumer.html#disconnect()
> 
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/langref/mx/data/DataService.html#disconnect()
> 
> -James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 14:07 -0700, Tom Bray wrote:
> > I'm coming to FDS from FMS2 where I have the ability to
> disconnect any
> > client for any reason -- say after a period of inactivity or
> because
> > an administrator of the chat has banned a user. Can I do
> this in FDS?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[flexcoders] Re: I need to be able to disconnect a client from FDS on the server-side using t

2006-07-23 Thread Dave Wolf
Ah, a slightly different use-case for sure.

I haven't tried it, but I would think I could do this in a filter. 
When the user should get banned, place a message onto say your JMS
bus.  The filter is subscribed to ban messages where the userid = the
current userid.  Now inside the filter I simply get a reference to the
session and call session.invalidate().  

A bit of theory but feasable, and would work not only for FDS calls,
but any call from that client credential.

-- 
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Cynergy Systems, Inc.
Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
http://www.cynergysystems.com
http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 866-CYNERGY


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The most common reason we need to disconnect a client is because the
user
> has been banned from the chat by an administrator for behaving
> inappropriately.  We're an ASP that hosts chat and im apps and we
let our
> clients configure timeouts on a per-user basis.  We have to have a
way to
> manage clients on the server like we do in FMS.
> 
> -Tom
> 
> On 7/22/06, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> > Placing a J2EE security constraint on the assets in FDS and then
> > setting a timout on the J2EE session isnt sufficient?
> > 
> >
> > --
> > Dave Wolf
> > Cynergy Systems, Inc.
> > Adobe Flex Alliance Partner
> > http://www.cynergysystems.com
> > http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs
> >
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Office: 866-CYNERGY
> > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "JesterXL"  wrote:
> > >
> > > No good answers here Tom, but this page:
> > > Current page:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/docs/1182.html
> > >
> > > Says to extend the ServiceAdapter. It apparently calls methods on a
> > MessageService instance. If you look at MessageService, you'll see
> > some familiar looking methods, but nothing to disconnect a client.
> > >
> > > Go here:
> > > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/fds2javadoc/
> > >
> > > And then click on the last entry in the top left frame, and then in
> > the bottom left frame, click on MessageService, and look at the
methods.
> > >
> > > I, like you, have yet to see a comparable client management API like
> > FMS, but I have a feeling I'm either "looking for the wrong thing" or
> > "looking in the wrong place".
> > >
> > > Either way, post if you find anything.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Tom Bray
> > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:32 PM
> > > Subject: [flexcoders] I need to be able to disconnect a client from
> > FDS on the server-side using the Java API.
> > >
> > >
> > > We do this all the time with our FMS2 apps if a client is inactive
> > for a certain period of time or an administrator wants to ban them.
> > We can't trust the SWF because we've had people hack them.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
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Re: [flexcoders] Updates for Flex 2.0?

2006-07-23 Thread Douglas Knudsen



I added a feature request I think would be UBER helpful"I use the new FB ColdFusion wizards to generate code from my database tables.  It IS wonderful!   One thing that I and other developers would really benefit from is the ability to change the templates used in this.  We all code  alittle differently and many of us may use things like ColdSpring and such.  Making these templates mutable would be SUPER!   I suspect only more advanced developers would need this, so maybe making the wizards use XML/XSLT would be sufficient.  Then maybe add a config setting to the wizard to use a particular XML/XSLT setup.  Check out Reactor for a great example of this."
In fact, developers of frameworks could even publish templates for the wizards that are custom built for the framework!  Besides making developement faster, this can enhance maintenance/enhancements too.  If the DB is changed, could re-generate the CFCs with the wizard without fear of breaking things or having to go in and make manual edits.
DKOn 7/21/06, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



















We will certainly be considering coder
features for later releases.  I can't promise what will be done when as
we need to focus on some other things first (like getting it out on Mac).

 

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On Behalf Of Sergey Kovalyov
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:24
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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Updates
for Flex 2.0?



 







Just
posted there. Sure, it's interesting to know, whether new
features of IDE will be implemented in next version only or they can
arrive with some kind on Flex 2.0 Update Pack. :)

On 7/20/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Thursday 20 July 2006 15:34, Sergey Kovalyov wrote:
> > Are there any plans regarding updates or add-ons for Flex 2.0 by
> > Adobe?
>
> I imagine so.
> Have you dropped your list in the box at http://adobe.com/go/wish
?
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Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews
Hank,

Your comments are perfectly reasonable (and I'm not sure that any answer 
would be satisfying).

I've spent most of my life working in large company/corporate environments. 
>From my experience, some companies will embrace the trend we've been talking 
about and have no problem with infrastructure (as you say). These companies 
weren't the focus of my question.

Next come large companies for which infrastructure may or may not be there 
(I have worked on very large projects where the only link to a customer site 
has been via dial-up). Even large companies might not embrace the trend, but 
might have been won over by our flexcoder friends.

Lastly, and probably the real focus of my query is putting Flex into a 
company that doesn't have a big budget IT department or infrastructure, and 
here there are the barriers I talked about - loss of connectivity (and 
functionality) of a business critical App. Some of our flecoder friends 
might have some interesting ideas/stories here.

So carry on commenting - I'm not arguing about the trend!

Paul



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From: hank williams
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application 
deployment question..


Paul,

Sorry Paul. I feel like I am derailing your question and that is not my 
intent. But I did think that this was a "trend" question.

"how do companies react to the idea of remotely served applications that are
important/critical to the business?"

I realize that my answer isnt exactly what you want to hear, but my 
experience is that there is not much of an issue and there are few problems 
with company's implementing remote applications. Perhaps unlike your wife's 
school, in corporate environments, internet connection is like telephone 
service. It is critical, and companies are used to depending on it being 
available. I dont have any anecdotes because I have never heard anyone say 
what you are asking.  I have heard horror stories with in-house 
installations that have caused people to move to remote applications. I'm 
sure there are some circumstances where your concern is an issue (like 
securities and banking) but by and large I dont think its an issue.

At this point I fully realize this is not a satisfying answer based on the 
perspective you are coming from, but I just wanted to be clear, FWIW. I'll 
shut up now:)

Regards
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RE: [Junk E-Mail - MED] Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Shannon Hicks





Well, from a developer's perspective... I'm seeing so many 
requests for Flex projects, we're picking & choosing which ones to make 
proposals for.
 
That being said, it seems we're seeing 1-2 project or job 
postings on this board every week.
 
I guess I'm trying to say that most companies are very 
excited about RIA's, and that most concerns are easily addressed... Security can 
be addressed via SSL, etc.
 
Shan


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Hank,I'm not arguing about the trend, just asking what's going on 
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Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread hank williams



Paul,Sorry Paul. I feel like I am derailing your question and that is not my intent. But I did think that this was a "trend" question."how do companies react to the idea of remotely served applications that are
important/critical to the business?" I realize that my answer isnt exactly what you want to hear, but my experience is that there is not much of an issue and there are few problems with company's implementing remote applications. Perhaps unlike your wife's school, in corporate environments, internet connection is like telephone service. It is critical, and companies are used to depending on it being available. I dont have any anecdotes because I have never heard anyone say what you are asking.  I have heard horror stories with in-house installations that have caused people to move to remote applications. I'm sure there are some circumstances where your concern is an issue (like securities and banking) but by and large I dont think its an issue.
At this point I fully realize this is not a satisfying answer based on the perspective you are coming from, but I just wanted to be clear, FWIW. I'll shut up now:)RegardsHank


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2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews
Hank,

I'm not arguing about the trend, just asking what's going on practically 
with Flex developers.

Paul


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Whatever anecdotal stories you might hear here, the more accurate reflection 
of what is going on is the broad discussion of this issue in the tech press.

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Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread hank williams



I think we're all reasonably aware of what the 
technology can do. What I was particularly intersted in any experiences of 
actually selling/building/deploying a Flex app in places where a traditional 
desktop environment has been. Was there resistance to the idea? 
Were people 
concerned about vulnerability of net connections and did you do anything to 
mitigate those fears/put in place a standby? My primary point is that this is not a Flex issue. Its the same issue for ajax/_javascript_ apps like 
salesforce.com and *lots* of other companies that do this. For a felling of how corporate america is responding to remotely served applications and the absolute furor over the impact that it is starting to have in the corporate marketplace, (and the fact that most every major enterprise software company is converting their software to work this way) you should check out some tech trades. I read 
news.com but there are probably others for the enterprise software as well. What you are posing as a *problem* is being heralded by most corporate customers and software companies as the wave of the future. I'm not saying that this is appropriate for every piece of enterprise software but that the market dynamics are heavily pushing in this direction.
Whatever anecdotal stories you might hear here, the more accurate reflection of what is going on is the broad discussion of this issue in the tech press.RegardsHank
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex AMFPHP and VOs

2006-07-23 Thread Andrea Varga
I just sent a private mail to you with the code.

Oriol Gual wrote:

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> I've  managed to make it work once, in both directions, also with
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> As I remember, I had to change something in the AMFPHP code to make it
> work from PHP to Flex, but maybe I did something wrong, and it should
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Re: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread JesterXL





SharedObjects are extremely useful, and can be 
leveraged in many different ways.  They may appear at first to be limited, 
but don't let that adversely affect your attitude in using them.  Here are 
some creative examples I've seen them used for:
 
- I use one in my DebugWindow.  When you drag 
the window, and let go, it saves the x and y coordinates of where you dropped 
it.  That way, if you re-compile your app in FlexBuilder and it launches 
again, it'll be where you left it.  Since I usually move it out of the way 
of the interface, this is extremely useful vs. "figuring out" where to put it 
via a move command all throughout development.
 
- Those bastards (United Virtualities for 
example) that make floating Flash ads, and other various banner ad 
technology utilize local SharedObjects to make a copy of your cookies.  
That way, when the user deletes their cookies in their browser, a site can later 
query a SWF to see if it has a copy.  This ensures those sites can have 
better tracking data.
 
- Delta changes for data synchronization.  For 
exmple, you make a change to some data.  It attempts to save those changes, 
but there is no internet connection, so it saves it locally in a "need to 
update" list (array).  When you have a connection again, it runs through 
the list sending to the server the change request until the list is empty.  
Abstracting this away into Business delegates adds a nice 
support of Occasionally Connectivity.  Naturally, this is better 
leveraged in a desktop environment like Apollo, but you get the 
drift.
 
- Saving the last used name for a login field (not 
the password obviously).
 
As far as the user being requested, you can 
actually see what the user is preseneted with: Right click on a SWF, and choose 
settings.  Then choose the 2nd tab.  You can launch this dialogue 
through code via flash.security.SecurityPanel ( 
SecurityPanel.LOCAL_STORAGE).
 
I don't think it's 10k by default, but 100k.  
This is saved on a per sub-domain basis.
 
 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Shannon Hicks 
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] 
[flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

Paul said that the current application was great when it 
was working, but everyone hated it when it was slow or the internet connection 
was down. I was not implying that flex doesn't work, or that I couldn't connect 
to them. I was saying Flex has no built-in mechanism to handle when the 
connection with the server is severed.
 
I did a little quick research on sharedObjects... So if I 
need to store more than 10k of data, I need to get the user to change their 
flash settings? Seems like it's not terribly useful for maintaining a history of 
additions/changes of data for my app, should the connection between client & 
server drop. Hopefully I'm misunderstanding this, or Apollo will address these 
problems.
 
Shan
 
 


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On 7/23/06, Shannon 
Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 

  
  
  Flex, in 
  it's present form, does not handle connectivity issues 
  well.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. I have no problem 
"connecting" to flash/flex apps. Of course if the internet connection is down 
then things wont work, but that's not a flex issue.  

  
  
  While it's 
  possible to do, Flex can't save anything to the user's local hard drive, so 
  "saved" information is only saved while the browser window is 
  open.
Actually, flash has local sharedObjects that allow an application to 
save data locally. 

  
  
  Maybe some 
  clever Flash guru can make me eat my words :)
   
  However, 
  if I understand correctly, Adobe's upcoming technology, Apollo, will allow for 
  this sort of thing (a flex-built desktop app with limited / occasional 
  connections to the server).
I'm not sure he was concerned about occasional connections to the 
server. He simply said remotely served application. 

  
  
  Shan
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
  AndrewsSent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:13 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail - 
  MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment 
  question..
  
  
  
  My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote service 
  that supplies web based information via the internet. When it works they 
  love it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't 
  or is just plain slow.The important point here is that it's a good 
  application, supplied from a remote server, but seen as unreliable either 
  due to internet connectivity problems or speed.Forgetting the 
  speed pr

Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews





- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Shannon Hicks 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:23 PM
  Subject: RE: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: 
  [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment 
  question..
  
  Paul said that the current application was great when it 
  was working, but everyone hated it when it was slow or the internet connection 
  was down. I was not implying that flex doesn't work, or that I couldn't 
  connect to them. I was saying Flex has no built-in mechanism to handle when 
  the connection with the server is severed.
   
  I did a little quick research on sharedObjects... So if I 
  need to store more than 10k of data, I need to get the user to change their 
  flash settings? Seems like it's not terribly useful for maintaining a history 
  of additions/changes of data for my app, should the connection between client 
  & server drop. Hopefully I'm misunderstanding this, or Apollo will address 
  these problems.
   
  Shan
My limited understanding of Apollo is that it supplies desktop services 
to Flex allowing it to exist on the desktop rather than
be served through the browser. Really an OS services layer. Bit like a 
standalone projector for Flash.
 
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Re: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews





 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Shannon Hicks 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:23 PM
  Subject: RE: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: 
  [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment 
  question..
  
  Paul said that the current application was great when it 
  was working, but everyone hated it when it was slow or the internet connection 
  was down. I was not implying that flex doesn't work, or that I couldn't 
  connect to them. I was saying Flex has no built-in mechanism to handle when 
  the connection with the server is severed.
   
  I did a little quick research on sharedObjects... So if I 
  need to store more than 10k of data, I need to get the user to change their 
  flash settings? Seems like it's not terribly useful for maintaining a history 
  of additions/changes of data for my app, should the connection between client 
  & server drop. Hopefully I'm misunderstanding this, or Apollo will address 
  these problems.
   
  Shan
   
   
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank 
  williamsSent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 10:13 AMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: [Junk 
  E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment 
  question..
  
  
  
  On 7/23/06, Shannon 
  Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  

Flex, in 
it's present form, does not handle connectivity issues 
well.
  I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. I have no problem 
  "connecting" to flash/flex apps. Of course if the internet connection is down 
  then things wont work, but that's not a flex issue.  
  

While 
it's possible to do, Flex can't save anything to the user's local hard 
drive, so "saved" information is only saved while the browser window is 
open.
  Actually, flash has local sharedObjects that allow an application to 
  save data locally. 
  

Maybe 
some clever Flash guru can make me eat my words :)
 
However, 
if I understand correctly, Adobe's upcoming technology, Apollo, will allow 
for this sort of thing (a flex-built desktop app with limited / occasional 
connections to the server).
  I'm not sure he was concerned about occasional connections to the 
  server. He simply said remotely served application. 
  

Shan


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
AndrewsSent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:13 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail 
- MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment 
question..



My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote service 
that supplies web based information via the internet. When it works they 
love it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't 
or is just plain slow.The important point here is that it's a 
good application, supplied from a remote server, but seen as unreliable 
either due to internet connectivity problems or speed.Forgetting 
the speed problem (there's usually ways to sort that out), I wondered 
how people are using Flex as a remotely served application. Are there 
good strategies to mitigate connection problems and how do companies 
react to the idea of remotely served applications that are 
important/critical to the business?Is the critical desktop 
application where Flex cannot go (except perhaps by in-house 
intranet)?Paul

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- Original Message - 

  From: 
  hank williams 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] 
  [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..
  
  On 7/23/06, Shannon 
  Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  


Flex, in 
it's present form, does not handle connectivity issues 
well.
  I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. I have no problem 
  "connecting" to flash/flex apps. Of course if the internet connection is down 
  then things wont work, but that's not a flex issue.
   
But it is an issue for a Flex application, as 
opposed to a desktop one. 

  
  


While 
it's possible to do, Flex can't save anything to the user's local hard 
drive, so "saved" information is only saved while the browser window is 
open.
  Actually, flash has local sharedObjects that allow an application to 
  save data locally. 
  
  


Maybe 
some clever Flash guru can make me eat my words :)
 
However, 
if I understand correctly, Adobe's upcoming technology, Apollo, will allow 
for this sort of thing (a flex-built desktop app with limited / occasional 
connections to the server).
  I'm not sure he was concerned about occasional connections to the 
  server. He simply said remotely served application.
   
LOL, well HE (ie me)  wasn't just thinking in 
terms of just serving the application, they still need to talk back to base to 
get and update data.
 
I think we're all reasonably aware of what the 
technology can do. What I was particularly intersted in any experiences of 
actually selling/building/deploying a Flex app in places where a traditional 
desktop environment has been. Was there resistance to the idea? Were people 
concerned about vulnerability of net connections and did you do anything to 
mitigate those fears/put in place a standby? 
 
Paul


  


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Paul said that the current application was great when it 
was working, but everyone hated it when it was slow or the internet connection 
was down. I was not implying that flex doesn't work, or that I couldn't connect 
to them. I was saying Flex has no built-in mechanism to handle when the 
connection with the server is severed.
 
I did a little quick research on sharedObjects... So if I 
need to store more than 10k of data, I need to get the user to change their 
flash settings? Seems like it's not terribly useful for maintaining a history of 
additions/changes of data for my app, should the connection between client & 
server drop. Hopefully I'm misunderstanding this, or Apollo will address these 
problems.
 
Shan
 
 


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank 
williamsSent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 10:13 AMTo: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: [Junk 
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question..



On 7/23/06, Shannon 
Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

  
  
  Flex, in 
  it's present form, does not handle connectivity issues 
  well.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. I have no problem 
"connecting" to flash/flex apps. Of course if the internet connection is down 
then things wont work, but that's not a flex issue.  

  
  
  While it's 
  possible to do, Flex can't save anything to the user's local hard drive, so 
  "saved" information is only saved while the browser window is 
  open.
Actually, flash has local sharedObjects that allow an application to 
save data locally. 

  
  
  Maybe some 
  clever Flash guru can make me eat my words :)
   
  However, 
  if I understand correctly, Adobe's upcoming technology, Apollo, will allow for 
  this sort of thing (a flex-built desktop app with limited / occasional 
  connections to the server).
I'm not sure he was concerned about occasional connections to the 
server. He simply said remotely served application. 

  
  
  Shan
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
  AndrewsSent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:13 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail - 
  MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment 
  question..
  
  
  
  My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote service 
  that supplies web based information via the internet. When it works they 
  love it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't 
  or is just plain slow.The important point here is that it's a good 
  application, supplied from a remote server, but seen as unreliable either 
  due to internet connectivity problems or speed.Forgetting the 
  speed problem (there's usually ways to sort that out), I wondered how 
  people are using Flex as a remotely served application. Are there good 
  strategies to mitigate connection problems and how do companies react to 
  the idea of remotely served applications that are important/critical to 
  the business?Is the critical desktop application where Flex cannot go 
  (except perhaps by in-house 
  intranet)?Paul
  
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On 7/23/06, Shannon Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Flex, in it's present form, does not handle connectivity 
issues well.I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. I have no problem "connecting" to flash/flex apps. Of course if the internet connection is down then things wont work, but that's not a flex issue.
 
 While it's possible to do, Flex can't save anything to the user's 
local hard drive, so "saved" information is only saved while the browser window 
is open.Actually, flash has local sharedObjects that allow an application to save data locally. 
Maybe some clever Flash guru can make me eat my words 
:)
 
However, if I understand correctly, Adobe's upcoming 
technology, Apollo, will allow for this sort of thing (a flex-built desktop app 
with limited / occasional connections to the server).I'm not sure he was concerned about occasional connections to the server. He simply said  remotely served application.

Shan


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My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote service 
that supplies web based information via the internet. When it works they 
love it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't or 
is just plain slow.The important point here is that it's a good 
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due to internet connectivity problems or speed.Forgetting the speed 
problem (there's usually ways to sort that out), I wondered how people are 
using Flex as a remotely served application. Are there good strategies to 
mitigate connection problems and how do companies react to the idea of 
remotely served applications that are important/critical to the 
business?Is the critical desktop application where Flex cannot go 
(except perhaps by in-house intranet)?Paul
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RE: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Shannon Hicks





Flex, in it's present form, does not handle connectivity 
issues well. While it's possible to do, Flex can't save anything to the user's 
local hard drive, so "saved" information is only saved while the browser window 
is open. Maybe some clever Flash guru can make me eat my words 
:)
 
However, if I understand correctly, Adobe's upcoming 
technology, Apollo, will allow for this sort of thing (a flex-built desktop app 
with limited / occasional connections to the server).
 
Shan


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flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A 
general Flex application deployment question..


My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote service 
that supplies web based information via the internet. When it works they 
love it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't or 
is just plain slow.The important point here is that it's a good 
application, supplied from a remote server, but seen as unreliable either 
due to internet connectivity problems or speed.Forgetting the speed 
problem (there's usually ways to sort that out), I wondered how people are 
using Flex as a remotely served application. Are there good strategies to 
mitigate connection problems and how do companies react to the idea of 
remotely served applications that are important/critical to the 
business?Is the critical desktop application where Flex cannot go 
(except perhaps by in-house intranet)?Paul
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Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread hank williams



Sure, I understand now.I think that the whole area of applications as a service is exploding. Companies like salesforce.com have demonstrated how powerful a model it is and everyone else is following. There are substantial cost benefits to letting a service provider provide services on user by user basis and not having to worry about backups or upgrades or anything. This is why 
salesforce.com is doing great and siebel got its butt kicked. Deploying big applications is risky and expensive. It is much better to try out something for a few hundred dollars a month and be able to cut it off if it doesnt work. Most businesses can afford big enough pipes to be guaranteed that they can get speedy access to services so performance is rarely an issue.
In short, I dont think business has a problem with remote access at all. I think most people agree it is the wave of the future for business services.RegardsHankOn 7/23/06, 
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- Original Message - 

  
From: 
  hank williams 
  
  To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:56 PM

  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex 
  application deployment question..
  
  I dont quite understand. Arent *all* flex applications remotely served? 
  Isnt that what it means to have an application on the internet? Perhaps you 
  could explain what scenario you are thinking about where a flex app isnt 
  remote? RegardsHank
Hi Hank,
 
The scenario I was thinking about primarily is 
where applications are served on an intranet. In this case the health of the 
intranet and any server connected to it is usually/often under the jurisdiction 
of the company using the application, so any infrastructure problems are, in the 
main, in-house.
 
A web application may then be very similar to a 
desktop one, because desktop applications in a company environment are often 
reliant on a healthy network/servers in order to function (network shares, 
database connectivity, network security, etc.).
 
In this way, intranet deployed Flex applications 
have very similar deployment risks/vulnerabilities to desktop apps (but none of 
the desktop installation hassle).
 
All this contrasts with loading a Flex App from a 
remote server where you may not have control of the infrastructure between the 
desktop and remote server, neither may you have control over the remote server 
and it's local infrastructure.
 
I hope that explains my view a bit 
better.
 
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Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews





- Original Message - 

  From: 
  hank williams 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex 
  application deployment question..
  
  I dont quite understand. Arent *all* flex applications remotely served? 
  Isnt that what it means to have an application on the internet? Perhaps you 
  could explain what scenario you are thinking about where a flex app isnt 
  remote? RegardsHank
Hi Hank,
 
The scenario I was thinking about primarily is 
where applications are served on an intranet. In this case the health of the 
intranet and any server connected to it is usually/often under the jurisdiction 
of the company using the application, so any infrastructure problems are, in the 
main, in-house.
 
A web application may then be very similar to a 
desktop one, because desktop applications in a company environment are often 
reliant on a healthy network/servers in order to function (network shares, 
database connectivity, network security, etc.).
 
In this way, intranet deployed Flex applications 
have very similar deployment risks/vulnerabilities to desktop apps (but none of 
the desktop installation hassle).
 
All this contrasts with loading a Flex App from a 
remote server where you may not have control of the infrastructure between the 
desktop and remote server, neither may you have control over the remote server 
and it's local infrastructure.
 
I hope that explains my view a bit 
better.
 
Paul
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Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread hank williams



I dont quite understand. Arent *all* flex applications remotely served? Isnt that what it means to have an application on the internet? Perhaps you could explain what scenario you are thinking about where a flex app isnt remote?
RegardsHankOn 7/23/06, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote servicethat supplies web based information via the internet. When it works theylove it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't or
is just plain slow.The important point here is that it's a good application, supplied from aremote server, but seen as unreliable either due to internet connectivityproblems or speed.Forgetting the speed problem (there's usually ways to sort that out), I
wondered how people are using Flex as a remotely served application. Arethere good strategies to mitigate connection problems and how do companiesreact to the idea of remotely served applications that areimportant/critical to the business?
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[flexcoders] mx:SetProperty with value="@Resource... coercion error?

2006-07-23 Thread Robin Hilliard


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[flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews
My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote service 
that supplies web based information via the internet. When it works they 
love it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't or 
is just plain slow.

The important point here is that it's a good application, supplied from a 
remote server, but seen as unreliable either due to internet connectivity 
problems or speed.

Forgetting the speed problem (there's usually ways to sort that out), I 
wondered how people are using Flex as a remotely served application. Are 
there good strategies to mitigate connection problems and how do companies 
react to the idea of remotely served applications that are 
important/critical to the business?

Is the critical desktop application where Flex cannot go (except perhaps by 
in-house intranet)?

Paul




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