from:"Robert Was"

We had the same issue, and in our case it was an easy fix.  When we read in the 
XML it was returning as an ArrayCollection as long as there were multiple 
nodes.  As you have found, if it was only one node it returned as a generic 
object not an ArrayCollection.  We were already looping through the 
ArrayCollection to populate value objects that we were using to populate our 
list.  So before the loop we added, if xmlObject is an ArrayCollection than 
loop else populate VO with returned data.  Worked without issues ever since.

Robert






From: thomas parquier mailingli...@web-attitude.fr
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 9:27:13 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Problems With my XML Created Array Collection

  
what about xmllistcollection ?;

---
thomas parquier
http://www.web- attitude. fr/realisations/
msn : thomas.parquier@ web-attitude. fr
softphone : sip:webattitude@ ekiga.net
téléphone portable : +33601 822 056



2010/4/19 James garymoorcroft_ i...@yahoo. co.uk
















  


 
  
 
In my app I have an array collection which populates a tilelist. This array 
collection is populated by a remote xml file via a http request. Problem is if 
the xml only has 1 or no nodes I get a null object reference error. I know 
this is a known problem but I've never been able to find a valid solution for 
it which could be applied to my code. I've heard of looping through the xml to 
create an array collection or using xmllist collection but I don't know how 
these can be done whilst still allowing the data to be displayed in the 
tilelist. Can anyone help me out please?

The code for my httpservice, array collcection I'm trying to make and the 
result of the http service and the tilelist it populates is shown below. As I 
say this all works fine as long as the xml has more than 1 node but causes 
the error if it doesn't:-

mx:HTTPService id=LinksService result=linksResultHandler( event) 
resultFormat=object method=POST url=http://www.coolvisi ontest.com/ 
getlinks. php/

mx:Script
  ![CDATA[

  import mx.rpc.events. ResultEvent;
  import mx.collections. ArrayCollection;

  [Bindable] private var LinksFullAC: ArrayCollection;

  private function linksResultHandler( event:ResultEven t):void
  {
  LinksFullAC= LinksService. lastResult. categories. 
 category as ArrayCollection;
  }


  ]]
/mx:Script

mx:TileList id=linkChoice  dataProvider={LinksFullAC} height=365 
width=665/

Here's my xml structure:-

categories
 category
  id/id 
  label/label 
  icon/icon 
 /category
/categories

Obviously I need the array collection to be populated by id, label and icon.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Problems With my XML Created Array Collection

This is not exactly how I would implement, but you should get the idea.  If you 
have multiple category nodes, then your 
LinksService.lastResult.categories.category is returned as an ArrayCollection 
and your code works.  If it only has one node then 
LinksService.lastResult.categories.category is returned as an ObjectProxy.  So 
in your return method you could have the following.

if(LinksService.lastResult.categories.category is ArrayCollection){
 LinksFullAC=LinksService.lastResult.categories.category as 
ArrayCollection;
 }else
 {
 var oCat:Object = new Object();
 oCat.id = LinksService.lastResult.categories.category.id;
 oCat.label = LinksService.lastResult.categories.category.label;
 oCat.icon = LinksService.lastResult.categories.category.icon;
 LinksFullAC.addItem(oCat);  // NOTE: LinksFullAC needs to not only be 
previously declared, but must also me instantiated with new ArrayCollection() 
for this line to work.
 
 }






From: James garymoorcroft_...@yahoo.co.uk
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 9:58:33 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Problems With my XML Created Array Collection

  
The thing is my xml is retrieved from a mysql database table which sometimes 
will have no records or 1 record which will mean the xml will have only 1 or no 
nodes which in turn causes the problem whereas sometimes it has many records 
therefore the xml file would have many nodes which would mean no problems.

I've heard of looping but can't figure out how to do it or apply it to my code. 
I've tried simply changing the array collection to xmllist collection but then 
the data doesn't seem to appear in my tilelist.

How would you loop using my specific code there because I always need it 
returned as an array collection to populate the tilelist but have no idea how 
to loop?

Cheers for your help so far.

--- In flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com, Robert Moss rdm0...@...  wrote:

 We had the same issue, and in our case it was an easy fix.  When we read in 
 the XML it was returning as an ArrayCollection as long as there were multiple 
 nodes.  As you have found, if it was only one node it returned as a generic 
 object not an ArrayCollection.  We were already looping through the 
 ArrayCollection to populate value objects that we were using to populate our 
 list.  So before the loop we added, if xmlObject is an ArrayCollection than 
 loop else populate VO with returned data.  Worked without issues ever since.
 
 Robert
 
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: thomas parquier mailinglists@ ...
 To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 9:27:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Problems With my XML Created Array Collection
 
 
 what about xmllistcollection ?;
 
 ---
 thomas parquier
 http://www.web- attitude. fr/realisations/
 msn : thomas.parquier@ web-attitude. fr
 softphone : sip:webattitude@ ekiga.net
 tÃ©lÃ©phone portable : +33601 822 056
 
 
 
 2010/4/19 James garymoorcroft_ i...@yahoo. co.uk
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
  
  
  
 In my app I have an array collection which populates a tilelist. This array 
 collection is populated by a remote xml file via a http request. Problem is 
 if the xml only has 1 or no nodes I get a null object reference error. I 
 know this is a known problem but I've never been able to find a valid 
 solution for it which could be applied to my code. I've heard of looping 
 through the xml to create an array collection or using xmllist collection 
 but I don't know how these can be done whilst still allowing the data to be 
 displayed in the tilelist. Can anyone help me out please?
 
 The code for my httpservice, array collcection I'm trying to make and the 
 result of the http service and the tilelist it populates is shown below. As 
 I say this all works fine as long as the xml has more than 1 node but 
 causes the error if it doesn't:-
 
 http://www.coolvisi ontest.com/ getlinks. php/
 
 mx:Script
 ![CDATA[
 
 import mx.rpc.events. ResultEvent;
 import mx.collections. ArrayCollection;
 
 [Bindable] private var LinksFullAC: ArrayCollection;
 
 private function linksResultHandler( event:ResultEven t):void
 {
 LinksFullAC= LinksService. lastResult. categories. 
  category as ArrayCollection;
 }
 
 
 ]]
 /mx:Script
 
 mx:TileList id=linkChoice  dataProvider= {LinksFullAC}  height=365 
 width=665/ 
 
 Here's my xml structure:-
 
 categories
  category
   id/id 
   label/label 
   icon/icon 
  /category
 /categories
 
 Obviously I need the array collection to be populated by id, label and icon.
 
 Thanks for any suggestions.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Problems With my XML Created Array Collection

In essence yes, I do not think I would do it as part of the button click, but 
instead clear it before the IF in the result handler with LinksFullAC.source = 
new Array();  or LinksFullAC.removeAll();  I prefer the former.  

As for your error, I'm not sure what's happening, but you should be able to set 
a break in the result handler and see what is getting returned.  It looks like 
for the combination you describe, categories is not getting returned for some 
reason.  You'll need to figure out why and trap for it.  The same goes for 
returning 0 records.  See what is getting returned and trap for it.






From: James garymoorcroft_...@yahoo.co.uk
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 12:47:15 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Problems With my XML Created Array Collection

  
Hi Robert. Thanks so much for that my friend. 

I have some problems with it though. You see I have an event in my app applied 
to a button (refresh button) which resends data via the LinksService i.e. 
LinksService. send and I've noticed that with your code if there is only 1 link 
i.e. 1 node and I click the refresh button it seems to keep recreating that 1 
over and over again as if it's recreating the same object in the array 
collection or something. This doesn't happen if their are 2 or more 
links/nodes/ objects. Perhaps I'll have to get the refresh button to empty the 
array collection first before sending the data i.e. it's click function would 
be LinksFullAC. flush; LinksService. send() Am I right?

I've also noticed now with your code applied if I select an item in the 
tilelist and click the reresh button I get the error Property categories not 
found on String and there is no default value which is indicating the error at 
the if statement in the code you gave me and the LinksService itself. Any idea 
what's causing this?

Another question though what if the xml contains no nodes? 

You see my xml file is dynamic, I have a variable in my app called categoryid 
and that variable is based on a category that the user selects in my app and is 
submitted to getlinks.php which gets all the records from my mysql table which 
contain that specific submitted categoryid and output them as the xml file. 
Some categoryids have no records (the user can add and delte records via my 
app). Is there any way of getting it to handle 0 records/nodes as well as 
handling muliple records/1record which it seems to already do?

Thanks so much for your help. Sorry to be a pain :-(

--- In flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com, Robert Moss rdm0...@...  wrote:

 This is not exactly how I would implement, but you should get the idea.  If 
 you have multiple category nodes, then your LinksService. lastResult. 
 categories. category is returned as an ArrayCollection and your code works.  
 If it only has one node then LinksService. lastResult. categories. category 
 is returned as an ObjectProxy.  So in your return method you could have the 
 following.
 
 if(LinksService. lastResult. categories. category is ArrayCollection) {
  LinksFullAC= LinksService. lastResult. categories. category as 
 ArrayCollection;
  }else
  {
  var oCat:Object = new Object();
 oCat.id = LinksService. lastResult. categories. category. id;
  oCat.label = LinksService. lastResult. categories. category. label;
  oCat.icon = LinksService. lastResult. categories. category. icon;
  LinksFullAC. addItem(oCat) ;  // NOTE: LinksFullAC needs to not only 
 be previously declared, but must also me instantiated with new 
 ArrayCollection( ) for this line to work.
 
  }
 
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: James garymoorcroft_ i...@...
 To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 9:58:33 AM
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Problems With my XML Created Array Collection
 
 
 The thing is my xml is retrieved from a mysql database table which sometimes 
 will have no records or 1 record which will mean the xml will have only 1 or 
 no nodes which in turn causes the problem whereas sometimes it has many 
 records therefore the xml file would have many nodes which would mean no 
 problems.
 
 I've heard of looping but can't figure out how to do it or apply it to my 
 code. I've tried simply changing the array collection to xmllist collection 
 but then the data doesn't seem to appear in my tilelist.
 
 How would you loop using my specific code there because I always need it 
 returned as an array collection to populate the tilelist but have no idea how 
 to loop?
 
 Cheers for your help so far.
 
 --- In flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com, Robert Moss rdm0004@  wrote:
 
  We had the same issue, and in our case it was an easy fix.  When we read in 
  the XML it was returning as an ArrayCollection as long as there were 
  multiple nodes.  As you have found, if it was only one node it returned as 
  a generic object not an ArrayCollection.  We were already looping through

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Problems With my XML Created Array Collection

Yes use a third if statement like:  if(event.result.categories)   
if(event.result.categories != null) should also work

Notice I used event.result instead of LinksService.lastResult.  Small change, 
but you should get in the habit as LinksService.lastResult will cause some pain 
in the future if you decide to change it's name for some reason.  

Amy suggested using e4x which is probably the correct answer as e4x grants you 
consistency ( you do not have the arrayCollection returned sometimes and 
ObjectProxy others) and allows you to work with XML in actionscript like XML 
was meant to be accessed.  You will still have to trap for the same issues, 
just implemented in a different way.   We do not always use e4x although we 
probably should, being lazy will probably bite us one of these days.





From: James garymoorcroft_...@yahoo.co.uk
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 2:11:16 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Problems With my XML Created Array Collection

  
You were right about removeall (flush ha whoops) helping. I applied removeall 
before the if statements like you said and the first error is now gone.

The only problem I have now is the error which occurs when there are NO nodes 
in the xml i.e. all items have been removed and there are no values in my mysql 
table which relate to that specific category id.

I've changed the code to this:-

private function linksResultHandler( event:ResultEven t):void
{
LinksFullAC. removeAll( );
if(LinksService. lastResult. categories. category is ArrayCollection) {
LinksFullAC= LinksService. lastResult. categories. category as ArrayCollection;
}else if (LinksService. lastResult. categories. category is ObjectProxy)
{
var oCat:Object = new Object();
oCat.linkid = LinksService. lastResult. categories. category. linkid;
oCat.categoryid = LinksService. lastResult. categories. category. categoryid; 
oCat.label = LinksService. lastResult. categories. category. label;
oCat.icon = LinksService. lastResult. categories. category. icon;
oCat.link = LinksService. lastResult. categories. category. link;
LinksFullAC. addItem(oCat) ; 
}
}

The thing is though in that code I have the first if statement to check for if 
the result is an array collection which sets it as an array collection, the 
second if statement which if it is an object proxy adds the single object to 
the array collection but I think what I'll need is a third if statement which 
checks if the xml is empty/null or something and assign what will happen if it 
is null. Do you know of any way to do this and if so what do you think is best 
to set as the operation of such an if statement to make sure this error doesn't 
occur anymore? I thought it might be something like:-

if(LinksService. lastResult. categories. category is null)

but there seems to be no such thing. Any ideas?

Sorry to keep hassling but it's pretty much the last hiccup I've got in my app 
and I always try to pick the brains of guys who know their stuff as much as I 
can :-)

--- In flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com, Robert Moss rdm0...@...  wrote:

 In essence yes, I do not think I would do it as part of the button click, but 
 instead clear it before the IF in the result handler with LinksFullAC. source 
 = new Array();  or LinksFullAC. removeAll( );  I prefer the former. 
 
 As for your error, I'm not sure what's happening, but you should be able to 
 set a break in the result handler and see what is getting returned.  It looks 
 like for the combination you describe, categories is not getting returned for 
 some reason.  You'll need to figure out why and trap for it.  The same goes 
 for returning 0 records.  See what is getting returned and trap for it.
 
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: James garymoorcroft_ i...@...
 To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 12:47:15 PM
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Problems With my XML Created Array Collection
 
 
 Hi Robert. Thanks so much for that my friend. 
 
 I have some problems with it though. You see I have an event in my app 
 applied to a button (refresh button) which resends data via the LinksService 
 i.e. LinksService. send and I've noticed that with your code if there is only 
 1 link i.e. 1 node and I click the refresh button it seems to keep recreating 
 that 1 over and over again as if it's recreating the same object in the array 
 collection or something. This doesn't happen if their are 2 or more 
 links/nodes/ objects. Perhaps I'll have to get the refresh button to empty 
 the array collection first before sending the data i.e. it's click function 
 would be LinksFullAC. flush; LinksService. send() Am I right?
 
 I've also noticed now with your code applied if I select an item in the 
 tilelist and click the reresh button I get the error Property categories not 
 found on String and there is no default value which is indicating the error 
 at the if statement in the code you gave me and the LinksService

Re: [flexcoders] swf information.

2010-04-16 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

You can parse this information from the swf file it self when you load it. I
did this once and it was pretty easy. I needed to know the version and frame
rate so my flex app could slow down to display as2 swfs.

Anyways if you dont want to write it your self there are several libraries.
Here is a link to one but others exist.

http://segfaultlabs.com/swfutils

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM, markflex2007 markflex2...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Hi,

 I have a problem and need fix ,I need help.

 I use swfloader load swf file and I need to know how long the swf will play
 ,how many frames it have and frame rate.

 Please give me a idea ,Thanks for help

 Mark S

Re: [flexcoders] Performance feedback PLEASE

2010-04-09 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

53 fps

Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 @ 2.53GHz
Flash player version 10,1,51,95

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Allan Pichler dreamc...@gmail.com wrote:



  I was wondering if anyone could take a quick glance at my AS3 3d renderer
 http://api.pluton.webhouse.dk/pool3d/pool3d.html and reply what FPS they
 get on their gear. If you could also provide your CPU info that would be
 extremely helpful.



 For the curious the engine sports the following features:



 Subpixel positioning (1/4 pixel on both x  y)

 Antialiasing

 Ambient light

 Specular light





 Best regards and have a wonderful day!



 *Allan Pichler*

 RIA Architect - ColdFusion/Flex/Ajax/UI



 Email: dreamc...@gmail.com

 Phone DK: +45 22 68 08 88

 Phone US: +1 (415) 683 0313

 Skype:apichler

 Yahoo:allan_pichler

 Facebook: www.facebook.com/apichler

 LinkedIn:   www.linkedin.com/in/apichler

Re: [flexcoders] Loading component at runtime with out compile time linking

2010-04-09 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

There are a couple ways of doing this. You could try RSLs or Modules.

Here is a link that talks about doing exactly what you are talking about.

http://flexinonroids.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/flex-3-dynamically-loading-components-at-runtime/

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Gireesh gireeshkuma...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hai,

 I wanted to create module at run time using the below code

 var cls:Class = getDefinitionByName(mx.controls.Button) as Class;
 var comp:UIComponent = new cls();

 Right now this is not possible unless I declare a dummy variable of a
 Button class in my program to get the compile time linking.

 My question is, when I use Flex 3 framework cache, is it still required to
 link the components in compile time ? Will these components wont be
 available in Flex framework swz/swf ?

 How can I resolve this ?

 -Gireesh

Re: [flexcoders] Get name of function from within the function? Get arguments for any function?

2010-04-05 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

You can use the arguments class to get some of this info.

http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/9.0/ActionScriptLangRefV3/arguments.html#propertySummary

http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/9.0/ActionScriptLangRefV3/arguments.html#propertySummaryfor
example

arguments.callee returns a reference to the current function and
arguments.length the number of args. You can access them like as an array
arguments[0] ect.

Hope that helps


On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:10 AM, tntomek tnto...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I'm trying to get 2 things:
 1) Name of current function
 2) Get list of arguments for some arbitrary function

 Is this possible?

 Here is an example:

 someMethod(jack, someCallback);

 -

 function someMethod(name:String, callback:Function)
 {
 // from here I'd like to do something like
 // this.getFunctionName()

 // and also get arguments for my callback function
 // so I can inspect them and do something about them
 // I'd like to see that someCallback has 2 parameters
 // called age and person and get their type
 }

 function someCallback(age:int, person:Person) {}

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex load testing

2010-04-02 Thread Robert Emminger

I'll see what I can do about writting up an example. I am a Jr in Flex,
Java, I'm swifft.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:04 AM, sanjitcs sanjit.f...@gmail.com wrote:



 @Mete thanks you for your reply.

 Yes, I am using LCDS 3.0. I have seen the Java based testing tool. I have
 gone through it. I have faced one problem. I want to create a consumer which
 listen for specific message. In Flex we are using mx:consumer selector
 property to get specific message for each user. But I am not be able to set
 selector in this tool. Consumer class does not have setter or getter for it.
 Is there any way to set the selector for consumer.

 thanks



 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Mete
 Atamel meteata...@... wrote:
 
  Are you using LCDS? Because starting in LCDS 3.0, LCDS comes with a Java
 based load testing tool. It's located under resources/load-testing-tool. We
 use it internally here at Adobe to do our scalability and performance
 testing. The latest version which will ship with LCDS 3.1 comes with more
 useful stuff like latency and message drop detection among other things. It
 supports testing against BlazeDS Servlet based endpoints, LCDS NIO based
 endpoints and it has Java versions of mx:Consumer/mx:Producer etc. (no
 RemoteObject, DataService support yet).
 
 
  -Mete
 
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com,
 sanjitcs sanjit.flex@ wrote:
  
  
  
   thanks for your suggestion arutheunicorn.
   I am looking for open source load testing framework. which can help me
 to do load testing for messaging on RTMP/RTMPS protocol.
   Currently I am developing flex client to do load testing.
   If you can provide me direction how can I build java robot that can hit
 flex app.. It will be great help for me
  
   Following are the requirement in short ..
   java robot can be able to subscribe multiple consumer to JMS topic with
 specific selector and it received data using server side push using
 RTMP/RTMPS protocol.
  
  
   Thank you
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com,
 arutheunicorn arutheunicorn@ wrote:
   
   
It depends on what funds you have. Quick Test Pro is the king of the
 hill for overall load  regression testing, followed by it's cheaper rival
 Silk Test by Borland. As for a cheapa$$ solution, you can try building a
 Java robot that can hit your flex appI've done some regression testing
 for Hilton in my days so I know a thing or two about the subject.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com,
 sanjitcs sanjit.flex@ wrote:

 Hi,

 I am testing application which uses server side push using RTMP
 protocol to get data from server.I need to perform load testing for
 application. Could anyone please suggest any Load testing framework.


 Currently I have tried to develop flex application which subscribes
 different consumer. I am assuming that it behaves like different
 consumer(i.e user for application). and i able to load test. Could any one
 please tells whether assumption is right or wrong.

RE: [flexcoders] How can i localize and internationalize a flex application

2010-03-24 Thread Robert Vollmar

Could you please send the compiler options which you have set in Flex Builder?

From: Gordon Smith
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:05 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Robert Vollmar
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] How can i localize and internationalize a flex 
application

If these folders exist, then I'm not sure what's causing the unable to open 
errors. Rob, have you heard of this problem before?

Gordon Smith
Adobe Flex SDK Team

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Thomas Silvester
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:50 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] How can i localize and internationalize a flex 
application

Hi Smith,
copylocale en_US fr_CA and de_CH infact created these folders and copied the 
en_US swc files to these folders, but when I try to compile the resource bundle 
file for fr_CA and de_CH to create the respective .swf files Ii am getting the 
below error.
thanks,
Ann.

--- On Sat, 3/20/10, Gordon Smith gosm...@adobe.com wrote:

From: Gordon Smith gosm...@adobe.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] How can i localize and internationalize a flex 
application
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 2:19 AM

You probably just need to create fr_CA and de_CH subdirectories inside of 
frameworks/locale so that the resource SWCs for these locales can be created 
there.

Gordon Smith
Adobe Flex SDK Team

From: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:flexcoders@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Thomas Silvester
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 6:22 AM
To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] How can i localize and internationalize a flex application

Hi All,
I did all the steps for this like copyloale, create resource file and cnage the 
compiler optionin Flex builder. The localization works in Flex builder 
environment, but when I try to compile the resourcebundles from command line, I 
get for fr_CA and de_CH, he following Error: unable to open 'locale/fr_CA' and 
Error: unable to open 'locale/de_CH' . Any quick help on this is well 
appreciated. When I try to compile for en_US it creates the .swf file.

Thanks in advance,
Ann.

Re: [flexcoders] Adding a button Icon

2010-03-15 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

you need to use the setStyle method because icon is a style not a property.

myButton.setStyle(icon, source);

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:20 AM, criptopus sd_br...@ntlworld.com wrote:



 // Add TLink To Issue Box
 issButArray.push(new Button());
 issButArray[i].icon=@Embed(source='icons/more.gif');
 issHbxArray[i].addChild(issButArray[i]);

 Error :

 Cannot create property icon on mx.controls.Button

 how do I set a buttons icon programatically?

 - Stephen

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adding a button Icon

2010-03-15 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

That embed will not work because it is in action script and will be treated
as a string try something like this:

First embed the image you want to use as an icon as a Class like so

[Embed(source=icons/more.gif)]
[Bindable]
public var buttonIcon:Class;

Now you can use it for your button like this:

issButArray[i].setStyle(icon, buttonIcon);

that should work for you.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:01 AM, criptopus sd_br...@ntlworld.com wrote:



 issButArray[i].setStyle(icon,@Embed(source='icons/more.gif'));

 Type Coercion failed: cannot convert @Embed(source='icons/more.gif') to
 Class?

 - New error?


 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Robert
 VanCuren Jr robert.vancuren...@... wrote:
 
  you need to use the setStyle method because icon is a style not a
 property.
 
  myButton.setStyle(icon, source);
 
  On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:20 AM, criptopus sd_br...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   // Add TLink To Issue Box
   issButArray.push(new Button());
   issButArray[i].icon=@Embed(source='icons/more.gif');
   issHbxArray[i].addChild(issButArray[i]);
  
   Error :
  
   Cannot create property icon on mx.controls.Button
  
   how do I set a buttons icon programatically?
  
   - Stephen

Re: [flexcoders] How to tell if colorpicker is open

2010-02-27 Thread Robert Moss

I was hoping to not have to keep track with flags in my code, but interrogate 
the component for it's state.  However, using flags is still better than using 
mx_internal.  Thanks.

--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

From: Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] How to tell if colorpicker is open
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 1:04 AM

There should be open/close events

On 2/26/10 2:29 PM, Robert Moss rdm0...@yahoo. com wrote:

I can not seem to find a way to tell programmatically if the colorpicker is 
open.  Internally it uses the showingDropdown property, but it is not exposed.  
I could use myColorPicker. mx_internal: :showingDropdown but there has to be a 
better way.  I'm sure I'm just missing it.

-- 

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Flex SDK Team

Adobe System, Inc.

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[flexcoders] How to tell if colorpicker is open

2010-02-26 Thread Robert Moss

I can not seem to find a way to tell programmatically if the colorpicker is 
open.  Internally it uses the showingDropdown property, but it is not exposed.  
I could use myColorPicker.mx_internal::showingDropdown but there has to be a 
better way.  I'm sure I'm just missing it.

[flexcoders] Opening popups while in full-sceen mode would crash the browser

2009-07-14 Thread Robert Csiki


Hello, I created a bunch of MXML components and the application  them as
popups PopUpManager.createPopup(),  but when executing that while
the application is in full-screen mode, the browser crashes. 
Reproducible with Windows/Firefox and IE, and Flash Player 9.  Any idea
why? Has anyone seen this too? Thank you.

Re: [flexcoders] How to link effects so that one starts after one finishes?

2009-07-10 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

You could also use a sequence effect that would play the effects on after
the other

mx:Sequence id=WipeRightUp
mx:children
  mx:WipeRight duration=1000/

  mx:WipeUp duration=1000/
/mx:children
  /mx:Sequence



On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, claudiu ursica the_bran...@yahoo.comwrote:



 You can play the first effect and listen to the effectEnd event ant in the
 handler start the second effect or you can go with putting the effects
 inside a Sequence.

 C

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 *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2009 5:50:27 PM
 *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] How to link effects so that one starts after
 one finishes?



 There are a couple of ways you could make this work:



 1)  Simplest: make your triggered effects do the right thing (the
 appearing one waits for the disappearing one to finish, via a startDelay):



 mx:WipeDown id=wipeDown duration=700 /
 mx:WipeUp id=wipeUp duration=700 startDelay=”700”/



 This would ensure that the wipeUp effect (which always runs on the
 component coming into view, in your example) will not run until the duration
 of the wipeDown (used for the disappearing component) is finished.



 2)  More involved: Use transitions

 Instead of triggers for these one-off effects, you could set up your
 application to use states for your components. in one state, the DataGrid
 would be there anre the List would not, in the other state the List would be
 there and the DataGrid would not. Then you could set up transitions for
 these states. It’s a bit more involved, but might scale better than just
 running individual effects on the components.



 Chet.



 *From:* flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:flexcoders@ yahoogroups. com]
 *On Behalf Of *gmoniey22
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:29 PM
 *To:* flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com
 *Subject:* [flexcoders] How to link effects so that one starts after one
 finishes?






  I have two components, and I want to swap between them using wipe
 down/up. i.e. click a button, the visible panel slides down, and after that
 panel is no longer visible, the other panel slides up and takes its place.

 I have tried something like the following (please excuse the crude
 example), but the effects occur at the same time, and it doesn't look that
 good.

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
 mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe. com/2006/ 
 mxmlhttp://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml
 layout=absolute
 mx:Script
 ![CDATA[
 import mx.binding.utils. BindingUtils;

 [Bindable]
 private var _show:Boolean = true;

 private function swapShow(event: MouseEvent) :void {
 _show = !_show;
 }
 ]]
 /mx:Script


 mx:WipeDown id=wipeDown duration=700 /
 mx:WipeUp id=wipeUp duration=700 /

 mx:VBox
 mx:DataGrid visible={_show} includeInLayout={_show}
 showEffect=wipeUp hideEffect=wipeDown /
 mx:List visible={!_show} includeInLayout={!_show} showEffect=wipeUp
 hideEffect=wipeDown/
 mx:Button label=Swap click=swapShow(event) /
 /mx:VBox
 /mx:Application

[flexcoders] best way to summarize and display data

2009-07-08 Thread Ramsey, Robert L

Hi,

I'm trying to think of the best way to let a user summarize and display data.  
The data is in xml format and looks like this(simplified some):


orgs
org
nameFoo/name
date01-01-2009/date
userAlice/user
/org
org
nameFoo/name
date01-02-2009/date
userAlice/user
/org
org
nameFoo/name
date01-01-2009/date
userBob/user
/org
org
nameBar/name
date01-01-2009/date
userGeorge/user
/org
org
nameBar/name
date01-02-2009/date
userAlice/user
/org
org
nameBar/name
date01-03-2009/date
userAlice/user
/org
org
nameFoo/name
date01-05-2009/date
userEve/user
/org
org
nameSpaz/name
date01-01-2009/date
userEve/user
/org
/orgs

What I think I want is a four column advanceddatagrid in tree view.  The first 
column would contain the group  and the other three would just be name, date, 
user.  There would be three buttons, each with a different grouping.  So if I 
click the Name button, it would look something like this:

Group   NameDate  User
Foo
  Foo01-01-2009  Alice
Foo01-02-2009  Alice
Foo01-01-2009  Bob
Foo01-05-2009  Eve
Bar
  Bar 01-01-2009  George
Bar 01-02-2009  Alice
Bar 01-03-2009  Alice
Spaz
  Spaz   01-01-2009  Eve


If the user clicked the Date button it would look like:
Group   NameDate  User
01-01-2009
  Foo01-01-2009  Alice
Foo01-01-2009  Bob
Bar 01-01-2009  George
Spaz   01-01-2009  Eve


And so forth.  Each grouping would be collapsible since it is in tree view.  
Does anyone have any pointers on the best way to do this?

Thanks,

Bob

Re: [flexcoders] UITextField alignment question

2009-07-01 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

Are you using embedded fonts? When you embed a font they will display 1
pixel higher than a non embedded font. There are a couple work arounds if
this is the case.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Freiman freima...@gmail.com wrote:



 Are you accounting for the 2 pixel border of the textfield?

 - Daniel Freiman


 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:10 AM, ACasualObserver pof...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I need to place a text in a ActionScript 3 project. The supplied X and Y
 is left and baseline coordinates. I use UITextField and subtracted its
 baselinePosition from Y. This places the text very close to where it should
 be vertically but not the exact location (text displayed a little higher).
 Horizontal position is not accurate neither and text is positioned a little
 to the right of supplied X. I could not find any property in UITextField or
 TextFormat to correct this.

 Any idea?

 Thanks

Re: [flexcoders] addChild using actionscript

2009-06-29 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr

You are trying to remove a child that has never been added. In your
addCheckBox function you are creating a new CheckBox and then adding it
which is fine but then in your removeCheckBox function you are again
creating a brand new CheckBox and trying to remove it. This will not work
because the new CheckBox in removeCheckBox has never been added. What you
need to do is reference the CheckBox that you created in yoru addCheckBox
function. You could do this by moving the checkBox var outside of the
functions and just make it a public var. Or when you create the CheckBox you
could set it's name property in addCheckBox and then in your removeCheckBox
do myVBox.removeChild)myVBox.removeChild.getChildByName(whatevername));

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:30 AM, ew6014 ew6...@yahoo.com wrote:



 hi guys. i was reading flex3 for dummies page 221 on containers and it gave
 an example of adding childen using actionscript. it worked fine. but i
 thought about adding a removeChild function. but it doesnt seem to be
 working. can someone tell me why?

 i apologize if this is a stupid mistake.

 -
 ?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?
 mx:Application xmlns:mx='http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml'
 layout='vertical'
 mx:Script
 ![CDATA[

 import mx.controls.CheckBox;
 private function addCheckBox():void
 {
 var checkBox:CheckBox = new CheckBox();
 checkBox.label = Checkbox  + (myVBox.numChildren + 1);
 myVBox.addChild(checkBox);
 }

 private function removeCheckBox():void
 {
 var checkBox1:CheckBox = new CheckBox();
 checkBox1.label = Checkbox  + (myVBox.numChildren - 1);
 myVBox.removeChild(checkBox1);
 }
 ]]
 /mx:Script
 mx:Button label='Add Checkbox' click='addCheckBox()' /
 mx:Button label='Remove Checkbox' click='removeCheckBox()' /

 mx:VBox id='myVBox' /
 /mx:Application

[flexcoders] working with multiple httpservice requests

2009-03-25 Thread Ramsey, Robert L

Hi,

I've been trying to find a better way to handle working with multiple 
httpservice requests that all need to complete before I run a function.

What I've been doing is something like this:

mx:HTTPService id=s1 url=somewhere result=s2.send()/
mx:HTTPService id=s2 url=somewhere result=s3.send()/
mx:HTTPService id=s3 url=somewhere result=s4.send()/
mx:HTTPService id=s4 url=somewhere result=s5.send()/
mx:HTTPService id=s5 url=somewhere result=somefunction()/


What I'd like to do is have a function I can call as part of the applications 
creationComplete to run through all of them.

function initializeApp():void
{
s1.send();
s2.send();
s3.send();
s4.send();
s5.send();
somefunction();
}

I know that somefunction() would have to do a valid data check to make sure 
that I had result data before manipulating it.  Is there a best practices way 
of doing this?

Thanks,

Bob

[flexcoders] help with httpService Error

2009-03-05 Thread Ramsey, Robert L

Hi,

I am using FlexBuilder 3.0.2 and am getting a new error on new projects when 
using the httpService feature.  Here is my httpService control, as copied from 
an older project which still works:

mx:HTTPService id=getmeta method=POST
  result=gotmeta()  contentType=application/x-www-form-urlencoded
  url=https://www.someserver.edu/myfiles/flexfile.php; useProxy=false
  fault=show_fault(event.fault)
  mx:request xmlns=
  commandgetmetainformation/command
  idme/id
  /mx:request
/mx:HTTPService

When I run the app locally, ctrl+f11 or clicking the run button in eclipse, I 
get the following error:

[RPC Fault faultString=Security error accessing url 
faultCode=Channel.Security.Error faultDetail=Destination: DefaultHTTP]

If I copy the swf file up to the server, it does run correctly there.

That exact same httpService control works fine in a project I finished last 
fall when run locally.

The weird thing is that older projects, ones I did as little as a month ago, 
run just fine when run locally.  It's only the new one I started this week.

I tried adding site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=all/ to my 
crossdomain.xml file, but no go.  I am using Flash version 10,0,22,87 within 
Firefox 3.05 on windows Vista, fully patched.

The only thing that I can think that would have changed from a few months ago 
is that I have a newer version of Flash.

Any ideas what might be causing this and how to fix it?

Thanks,

Bob

Re: [flexcoders] Localization without SDK modification?

2009-02-20 Thread Robert Vollmar

Hello,

The frameworks/flex-config.xml file contains this entry, which tells the 
compiler to look for a directory for the locale:

path-elementlocale/{locale}/path-element

First, you can remove this entry or create an empty 
frameworks/locale/Your_Locale directory to make the compiler happy.  I prefer 
to make the empty directory instead of modifying this file because the goal is 
to not modify the SDK.  Next, add the directory containing the SWCs, wherever 
they are, to the library path.  e.g.

My directory structure:
ls -R
localestest.mxml

./locales:
aa_AA

./locales/aa_AA:
MyProjectSDK

./locales/aa_AA/MyProject:
social_interactions.properties

./locales/aa_AA/SDK: (These were created with copylocale.)
airframework_rb.swcframework_rb.swcrpc_rb.swc

Command:
mxmlc -locale=aa_AA -source-path=locales/{locale}/MyProject 
-library-path+=locales/{locale}/SDK test.mxml

Code snippet:
Label text={ResourceManager.getInstance().getString('social_interactions', 
'greeting')} /

- Rob


On 2/20/09 8:24 AM, Borek bore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Is it possible to use Flex localization without creating additional
folders in ...\Flex Builder 3 Plug-in\sdks\3.1.0\frameworks\locale ?
I'm asking for the sake of version control - I would like to add
localization capabilities to my Flex app but don't want to check the
Flex SDK in or depend on manual actions (every new developer shouldn't
be required to run 'copylocale' prior to compiling the project).

I have tried to add the generated SWCs to my libs directory but that
didn't work.

Any solutions?

Thanks,
Borek





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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Localization without SDK modification?

2009-02-20 Thread Robert Vollmar

That's true.  It's the lowest-impact change I'm aware of.

On 2/20/09 9:53 AM, Borek bore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi Rob,

thanks for your hints. It's all perfectly understandable except this:
create an empty frameworks/locale/Your_Locale directory to make the
compiler happy. You mean to create the empty directory inside the
installed Flex Builder SDK? That would still mean manually modifying
the SDK, though just by adding an empty directory.

Thanks,
Borek

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Robert Vollmar rvoll...@... wrote:

 Hello,

 The frameworks/flex-config.xml file contains this entry, which tells
the compiler to look for a directory for the locale:

 path-elementlocale/{locale}/path-element

 First, you can remove this entry or create an empty
frameworks/locale/Your_Locale directory to make the compiler happy.  I
prefer to make the empty directory instead of modifying this file
because the goal is to not modify the SDK.  Next, add the directory
containing the SWCs, wherever they are, to the library path.  e.g.

 My directory structure:
 ls -R
 localestest.mxml

 ./locales:
 aa_AA

 ./locales/aa_AA:
 MyProjectSDK

 ./locales/aa_AA/MyProject:
 social_interactions.properties

 ./locales/aa_AA/SDK: (These were created with copylocale.)
 airframework_rb.swcframework_rb.swcrpc_rb.swc

 Command:
 mxmlc -locale=aa_AA -source-path=locales/{locale}/MyProject
-library-path+=locales/{locale}/SDK test.mxml

 Code snippet:
 Label
text={ResourceManager.getInstance().getString('social_interactions',
'greeting')} /

 - Rob


 On 2/20/09 8:24 AM, Borek bore...@... wrote:

 Is it possible to use Flex localization without creating additional
 folders in ...\Flex Builder 3 Plug-in\sdks\3.1.0\frameworks\locale ?
 I'm asking for the sake of version control - I would like to add
 localization capabilities to my Flex app but don't want to check the
 Flex SDK in or depend on manual actions (every new developer shouldn't
 be required to run 'copylocale' prior to compiling the project).

 I have tried to add the generated SWCs to my libs directory but that
 didn't work.

 Any solutions?

 Thanks,
 Borek



 

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[flexcoders] Making the Slider Track behaving like a ProgressBar

2009-01-13 Thread Robert Csiki

Hello,

Is there an easy way to achieve this? I am working on a video player 
and I want to visualize the content buffering the same way say 
YouTube's one (and most other video players I've seen) does.

Thanks
Robert

[flexcoders] How setup flash player interface language

2009-01-02 Thread Robert Was

After fp debug version update 10 player displays his  interface 
(interesting for me: trace window and error messages) in language of my 
non-english OS. Is it possible to revert to old english translation?



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Re: [flexcoders] FlexTasks: Compc for Flash Player 10

2008-12-23 Thread Robert Stehwien

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Tyler Kocheran rfkroc...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm aware that I can do compc on commandline with FP10, but is it possible
 yet to do it in FlexTasks for Ant? I haven't looked at the Flex 4 SDK yet,
 I've just been getting nightly builds of 3.


You should  be able to use ant.  I haven't done a compc using ant yet, but I
have used an mxmlc using ant and they share the target-player flag.
--
mxmlc debug=true file=${main.application}
output=${main.application.debug.out}
  target-player=10.0.0
   load-config filename=${flex.config.xml} /
 compiler.include-libraries dir=${alchemy.dir} append=true
 include name=lua-alchemy.swc /
 /compiler.include-libraries
/mxmlc
--

So try using target-player=10.0.0 for compc

Re: [flexcoders] FlexTasks: Compc for Flash Player 10

2008-12-22 Thread Robert Stehwien

Add the following flag to target flash player 10
compc -target-player=10.0.0 [other options]

Also recommend you make sure you are using the 3.2+ SDK
$ which compc
/Applications/Adobe Flex Builder 3/sdks/3.2.0/bin/compc

--Robert

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Tyler Kocheran rfkroc...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is there a way to use compc to generate a SWC file targeting Flash Player
 10?
 Google yields little results on the matter.

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[flexcoders] Lua Alchemy v0.1a Released

2008-12-22 Thread Robert Stehwien

Lua Alchemy is a port of the Lua programming language for ActionScript using
Alchemy.  Using v0.1a inside Flash/Flex you can create any ActionScript
class available at runtime, call functions, get/set properties on
ActionScript objects and use Lua functions as an ActionScript function
(including event listeners).

The project can be found here:
http://code.google.com/p/lua-alchemy/

A demo can be found here:
http://www.arcanearcade.com/Flex/LuaAlchemyDemoV.1a/index.html

The next version will include syntax sugar so instead of calling
as3.call(var, function, param) you could call var.function(param) and
similar calls to make calling ActionScript code look the same as calling Lua
code.

RE: [flexcoders] txtbx focus at login

2008-12-11 Thread Robert Byrne

In my template I put this line in the body tag:
onLoad=window.document.${application}.focus(); 

That works in IE but I can't get FF(3.0.4) to work.  One of the link I listed 
in an earlier post suggested adding this line to get FF to play nice as FF has 
a known issue with the embed tag:
   param name=wmode value=opaque /
and
   embed ... wmode=opaque .../embed

But none of this is working with FF.  I may have to let this go and thank my 
lucky stars my clients are all internal and most of them use IE!

Thanks for all the support.
-Robert

--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Tracy Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Tracy Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] txtbx focus at login
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 6:23 PM








 
 

 

 

 







This works in IE: 

   

window.onload =
setFocusOnLoad; 

function setFocusOnLoad(){ 

  ${swf}.focus(); 

} 

   









From:
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 flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Byrne

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008
4:34 PM

To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [flexcoders] txtbx
focus at login 



   








 
  
  I'm looking into this now, but won't get back to it
  for a while: http://www.igorcost a.org/?p= 179

  

  There also a bit about it here: http://www.htmlforu ms.com/archive/ 
index.php/ t-64150.html

  

  Thanks for the pointers.

  -Robert

  

  

  --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Tracy Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
  wrote: 
  From: Tracy Spratt
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] txtbx focus at login

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com

  Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 3:35 PM 
  
  
  This is because the Flash Player instance itself (Object/Embed
  tag) does not have the focus in the Browser.  There is a bit of
  javascript code that will set the focus, but last I heard it only works in
  IE.  I can find that script if it would be useful. 
    
  
Tracy 
    
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com 
  [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com 
  ] On Behalf Of Robert Byrne

  Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008
  1:25 PM

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com

  Subject: [flexcoders] txtbx
  focus at login 
  
    
  
  
  
  
   


This is a bit
odd.  When I first open the application, the focus IS set on the login
txtbx but when I start typing nothing happens.



If I tab to the password txtbx I can type.  If I tab back to the
login, I can type.



If I click anywhere on the flex app, not just in the login txtbx, I can
type.



I know the focus is on the login txtbx because there is an orange box
around it.  When tabbing to the password, the orange box moves to the
password.



I tried setting focus to the flash object in the html wrapper within a
window.onload event using both focus() and click().  Nothing.



Any ideas?

Thanks - Robert.



Here's some code:



MXML:



mx:Label text=@Resource( key='loginId' , bundle='Labels' )
fontWeight= bold width=60 /

mx:TextInput id=usernameInput width=140 /



AS:

override protected function init():void{

  super.init() ;

  this.logger. debug(init );



  this.loginForm. defaultButton = this.loginButton;

  this.usernameInput. setFocus( );

}

[flexcoders] Error 2032, but only in IE with php session_start

2008-12-11 Thread Ramsey, Robert L

Hi,

I have an app that makes  http requests to a php script on the server.  If I 
have session_start() in the back end file so I can use session variables in 
php, I get the following error:

[RPC Fault faultString=HTTP request error faultCode=Server.Error.Request

faultDetail=Error: [IOErrorEvent type=ioError bubbles=false cancelable=false 
eventPhase=2 text=Error #2032].

URL: https://path.to/my/file.php;]

But only when I use Internet Explorer.  If I use Firefox, it all works 
beautifully.

If I rem out the session_start() line in the php script it works fine, so I can 
confirm that that is the line that is causing the error.  Has anyone seen this?

Here's my goal.  I have an app that plays videos and users aren't supposed to 
be able to download the video easily.  The very popular firefox plugin Video 
DownloadHelper can see the mp4 files (but not the flv files for some reason) 
and download them.  I use a php file to read the contents of the videos from a 
non-web accessible folder.  I want to use mp4.  What I did was to set a php 
session variable when the user selects the file from the combobox, then 
immediately fetch the video.  Right before it sends the video the php file 
unsets the session variable.  This means that the user has to use my combobox 
to see the file, because it is the only thing that can set the session variable 
and the variable is destroyed as the file is sent.

This is only meant to stop casual copying.  Our faculty is aware that there's 
always a way to capture the video.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Bob

[flexcoders] txtbx focus at login

2008-12-05 Thread Robert Byrne

This is a bit odd.  When I first open the application, the focus IS set on the 
login txtbx but when I start typing nothing happens.

If I tab to the password txtbx I can type.  If I tab back to the login, I can 
type.

If I click anywhere on the flex app, not just in the login txtbx, I can type.

I know the focus is on the login txtbx because there is an orange box around 
it.  When tabbing to the password, the orange box moves to the password.

I tried setting focus to the flash object in the html wrapper within a 
window.onload event using both focus() and click().  Nothing.

Any ideas?
Thanks - Robert.

Here's some code:

MXML:

mx:Label text=@Resource(key='loginId', bundle='Labels') fontWeight=bold 
width=60 /
mx:TextInput id=usernameInput width=140 /

AS:
override protected function init():void{
  super.init();
  this.logger.debug(init);

  this.loginForm.defaultButton = this.loginButton;
  this.usernameInput.setFocus();
}

Re: RES: [flexcoders] Flex : Execution of Alert.show() starts for the last one

2008-12-05 Thread Robert Byrne

Flex does not work like javascript.  Javascript would wait for a response from 
alert 1 before executing alert 2.  Flex executes them all as Luciano points 
out.  It is the same thing with confirmation boxes.  You will need to bind 
events to them where as in JS you might put them inside of 'if' conditions.

-R

--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Luciano Manerich Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Luciano Manerich Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RES: [flexcoders] Flex : Execution of Alert.show() starts for the last 
one
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 1:34 PM

Hi,

that is the normal behavior. Every message gets the MAX(z-index) + 1.

When you add the first message, you'll have just the application

App Layer | 1st Message

When it comes the 2nd message, that will be above last added message

App Layer | 1st Message | 2nd Message

And so it is on 3rd message. 

App Layer | 1st Message | 2nd Message | 3rd Message

The same will happen if you add a custom popup

App Layer | 1st Message | 2nd Message | 3rd Message | Modal Popup

-Mensagem original-
De: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em
nome de Gaurav J
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 5 de dezembro de 2008 08:37
Para: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Assunto: [flexcoders] Flex : Execution of Alert.show() starts for the
last one

Hello All,

I have doing a small experiment with flex 3 and found something every
strange.  In a function i am calling Alert.show() 3 Times 1,2,3 but when
i call that function the execution of starts from the bottom calling the
message box 3 first and message 1 the last. 

Have anyone got an idea why its happening ?

Here the code 

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; 
layout=vertical backgroundGradientAlphas=[1.0, 1.0] 
backgroundGradientColors=[#8E8E8E, #DEDEDE] mx:Script
![CDATA[
import mx.controls.Alert;
private function callAlerts():void
{
Alert.show(Hello World,Message 1);
Alert.show(Hello World,Message 2);
Alert.show(Hello World,Message 3);
}
]]
/mx:Script
mx:Label text=Test Alert/
mx:Button click=callAlerts() label=Call Alert
Box/
/mx:Application

Regards 

Gaurav

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RE: [flexcoders] txtbx focus at login

2008-12-05 Thread Robert Byrne

I'm looking into this now, but won't get back to it for a while: 
http://www.igorcosta.org/?p=179

There also a bit about it here: 
http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/t-64150.html

Thanks for the pointers.
-Robert


--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Tracy Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Tracy Spratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] txtbx focus at login
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 3:35 PM








 
 

 

 

 







This is because the Flash Player instance
itself (Object/Embed tag) does not have the focus in the Browser.  There is a
bit of javascript code that will set the focus, but last I heard it only works
in IE.  I can find that script if it would be useful. 

   

Tracy 

   









From:
 flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Robert Byrne

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008
1:25 PM

To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [flexcoders] txtbx focus
at login 



   








 
  
  
  This is a bit
  odd.  When I first open the application, the focus IS set on the login
  txtbx but when I start typing nothing happens.

  

  If I tab to the password txtbx I can type.  If I tab back to the login,
  I can type.

  

  If I click anywhere on the flex app, not just in the login txtbx, I can type.

  

  I know the focus is on the login txtbx because there is an orange box around
  it.  When tabbing to the password, the orange box moves to the password.

  

  I tried setting focus to the flash object in the html wrapper within a
  window.onload event using both focus() and click().  Nothing.

  

  Any ideas?

  Thanks - Robert.

  

  Here's some code:

  

  MXML:

  

  mx:Label text=@Resource( key='loginId' , bundle='Labels' )
  fontWeight= bold width=60 /

  mx:TextInput id=usernameInput width=140 /

  

  AS:

  override protected function init():void{

    super.init() ;

    this.logger. debug(init );

  

    this.loginForm. defaultButton = this.loginButton;

    this.usernameInput. setFocus( );

  }

RE: [flexcoders] Flash being cached

2008-12-04 Thread Robert Byrne


In IE:

Tools - General - Settings (Temporary Internet Files) - Every visit to the 
page (first radio option)

Personally I liked the HTML wrapper option best as a solution for developers 
and clients.  

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Wildbore, Brendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Wildbore, Brendon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flash being cached
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 2:57 PM








 
 







If you have the developer toolbar plugin installed
on firefox, use that to disable the browser cache (make sure there is a tick
next to disable cache under the disable dropdown)… works like a charm for
me. 

   









From:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of flexaustin

Sent: Wednesday, 3 December 2008
5:28 a.m.

To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [flexcoders] Flash being
cached 



   







Is there a way to prevent your swf file from being
cached? I would

like to prevent this in production and when using the template files

(in bin-debug and bin-release) . When using these two html files my

browser seems to cache the swf requiring me to do a couple of

cntrl-r's and sometimes a clear cache in Firefoxs options.



Anyone else have this issue?

Re: [flexcoders] Re: ItemRenderer, mislabels scrolling

2008-12-03 Thread Robert Byrne

I had been addressing listData and I believe that's where the fault lie.  I 
overrode the data setter and called my function renderData from there.  That 
worked but I set the binding back on value and not listData.label.
 
So, I'm still a bit fuzzy about what listData is doing for me but problem 
solved.  Thank you all so much for helping me with this.  I've been reading 
some of the other threads and find it alluminating.
 
Thanks again.
-Robert

--- On Wed, 12/3/08, ross_w_henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: ross_w_henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: ItemRenderer, mislabels  scrolling
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 1:58 PM

Robert, I may have misled you by saying you needed to override the
data setter in my last reply.  

I've gotten away with doing that in List components, but maybe I
should have been addressing listdata, instead of data.  


Hope I didn't screw you up.

Amy, glad you posted this.  Thanks.



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 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Harui aharui@ wrote:
 
  itemRenderer.data should always be the data for the row.  It should 
 never be the old data unless you overrode the setter.
 
 I agree.  I think the problem is caused by not calling super.listdata 
 in the override of the listdata setter.






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[flexcoders] ItemRenderer, mislabels scrolling

2008-12-02 Thread Robert

When scrolling, the labels on the grid turn into those that the 
recycled item renderer used.  I tried using this.data to overwrite 
the values every time.  The new listData object has the correct 
label and so I thought it was working, but there is a url I need in 
the current rows' XML for the button click to work and accessing the 
this.data gave me the old results.  I then thought I could use the 
row index in listData but quickly found that the row index is always 
the same when scrolling down or up, the end or the begining of the 
grid.  So it's not really the row index of the XML but the grid.  
Seems overwritting the values wasn't quite the answer.

There is a variable in listData called item.  I see it in the 
debugger but the compiler won't let me access it.  This is the XML 
for the row.  So, in short, how can I access this 'listData.item' or 
find out the actual XML row I am on.  Actually, any suggestion would 
be great.  Banging my head on this one all day.

And thanks.

Here's some code:

public function get listData():BaseListData{
  return _listData;
}

public function set listData(blData:BaseListData):void{
  _listData = DataGridListData(blData);
  renderData();
}   

private function renderData():void {
  var columnIndex:int;  
  var xmlRow:XML;

  columnIndex = this.listData.columnIndex;
  xmlRow = XML(this.data);
/*
 * I added this to get at the item.
  try{
if(this.listData.item != null){
  xmlRow = XML(this.listData.item);
}
else{
  xmlRow = XML(this.data);
}
  }
  catch(e:Error){
xmlRow = XML(this.data);
  }
*/

  this.value = this.listData.label;
  if ( value == [multiple] ){
this.creativeLinkButton.enabled = false;
this.creativeLinkButton.useHandCursor = false;
this.creativeLinkButton.setStyle(textDecoration, none);
  }
  else{
this.creativeLinkButton.enabled = true;
this.creativeLinkButton.useHandCursor = true;
this.creativeLinkButton.setStyle(textDecoration, underline);
  }

  // get toolTip = @u(columnIndex)
  // get url = @u(columnIndex)
  var urlName:String = @u + columnIndex.toString();
  this.url = xmlRow[urlName];
  this.description = xmlRow[urlName];
}

override protected function setMXMLViewBindings():void{
  super.setMXMLViewBindings();
  this.logger.debug(setMXMLViewBindings);

  // Set creativeLink link button's label
  BindingUtils.bindProperty(this.creativeLinkButton, label, this, 
[value]);

  // Set creativeLink link button's toolTip
  BindingUtils.bindProperty(this.creativeLinkButton, toolTip, 
this, [description]);
}

Re: [flexcoders] Re: ItemRenderer, mislabels scrolling

2008-12-02 Thread Robert Byrne

Ross, when I saw your idea I went straight to it thinking this might be it!  
But it wasn't.  Infact, this.listData.label was the old information.  But when 
entering the renderData function, it is the new value.  This only serves to 
confuse me even more.  It's like the binding never happened.
 
I tried both of these:
 
BindingUtils.bindProperty(this.creativeLinkButton, label, this, [listData, 
label]);
BindingUtils.bindProperty(this.creativeLinkButton, label, this.listData, 
[label]);
-
Sorry bout the colors and font, pasted from eclipse.
 
Also, I looked into this.data.  I set a break in my code and mx.core.Container 
to see not only the value passed into the set data function but to see when 
things are kicking off.  Well, the data is not being set until after my code 
runs.  The correct information is passed into the setter, but not at the right 
time.
 
Perhaps I can use the data change event that is dispatched to update my 
values.  Any other ideas?
 
Thanks,
-Robert
 
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, ross_w_henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: ross_w_henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: ItemRenderer, mislabels  scrolling
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:19 PM

I've had similar issues.  

One of the things I've found is that it is important to reduce the
steps between this.data, or this.listData, and the property you're
populating. 

If you can rewrite so that you bind directly on this.listData.label,
rather than set the value of 'value' and bind on 'value', I
think
you'll probably be okay.


Alex - if you wrote a book on item renderers, I would buy it.  Just so
you know there's a market.


Ross




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 itemRenderer.data should always be the data for the row.  It should
never be the old data unless you overrode the setter.
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Robert
 Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:58 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] ItemRenderer, mislabels  scrolling
 
 
 When scrolling, the labels on the grid turn into those that the
 recycled item renderer used. I tried using this.data to overwrite
 the values every time. The new listData object has the correct
 label and so I thought it was working, but there is a url I need in
 the current rows' XML for the button click to work and accessing the
 this.data gave me the old results. I then thought I could use the
 row index in listData but quickly found that the row index is always
 the same when scrolling down or up, the end or the begining of the
 grid. So it's not really the row index of the XML but the grid.
 Seems overwritting the values wasn't quite the answer.
 
 There is a variable in listData called item. I see it in the
 debugger but the compiler won't let me access it. This is the XML
 for the row. So, in short, how can I access this 'listData.item'
or
 find out the actual XML row I am on. Actually, any suggestion would
 be great. Banging my head on this one all day.
 
 And thanks.
 
 Here's some code:
 
 public function get listData():BaseListData{
 return _listData;
 }
 
 public function set listData(blData:BaseListData):void{
 _listData = DataGridListData(blData);
 renderData();
 }
 
 private function renderData():void {
 var columnIndex:int;
 var xmlRow:XML;
 
 columnIndex = this.listData.columnIndex;
 xmlRow = XML(this.data);
 /*
 * I added this to get at the item.
 try{
 if(this.listData.item != null){
 xmlRow = XML(this.listData.item);
 }
 else{
 xmlRow = XML(this.data);
 }
 }
 catch(e:Error){
 xmlRow = XML(this.data);
 }
 */
 
 this.value = this.listData.label;
 if ( value == [multiple] ){
 this.creativeLinkButton.enabled = false;
 this.creativeLinkButton.useHandCursor = false;
 this.creativeLinkButton.setStyle(textDecoration,
none);
 }
 else{
 this.creativeLinkButton.enabled = true;
 this.creativeLinkButton.useHandCursor = true;
 this.creativeLinkButton.setStyle(textDecoration,
underline);
 }
 
 // get toolTip = @u(columnIndex)
 // get url = @u(columnIndex)
 var urlName:String = @u + columnIndex.toString();
 this.url = xmlRow[urlName];
 this.description = xmlRow[urlName];
 }
 
 override protected function setMXMLViewBindings():void{
 super.setMXMLViewBindings();
 this.logger.debug(setMXMLViewBindings);
 
 // Set creativeLink link button's label
 BindingUtils.bindProperty(this.creativeLinkButton, label,
this,
 [value]);
 
 // Set creativeLink link button's toolTip
 BindingUtils.bindProperty(this.creativeLinkButton, toolTip,
 this, [description]);
 }






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[flexcoders] Flex/Flash news needed for TechNewsFetcher.com

2008-10-29 Thread Robert Walters

Anyone know of any good Flash/Flex news sites that we can add to 
TechNewsFetcher.com?

Thanks...Rob

[flexcoders] help w/ setting click events on dynamically created linkbuttons

2008-09-25 Thread Ramsey, Robert L

Hi,

 

I am working on a scheduling application and need some help working with
dynamically created clickable objects.  I've been using linkbuttons, but
anything that is clickable will work.

 

I have an array that may contain 0-N items, where N can be any number.
If N0, I need to create clickable linkbuttons that call a function.
What I'm doing is something like this:

 

  for each (var conflict:String in conflictArray)

  {

var myLabel:LinkButton = new LinkButton;

myLabel.label = conflict;

myLabel.y = myy;



myy += 20;

 
Application.application.conflictsPanel.addChild(myLabel);



  }

 

What I need to do is have each linkbutton call a function when it is
clicked and pass two variables to that function.  What I'd like to be
able to do is something like this:

 

myLabel.onClick(myFunction(label, label.length);

 

Is there an easy way to do this or a different clickable control I
should be using?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

RE: [flexcoders] help w/ setting click events on dynamically created linkbuttons

2008-09-25 Thread Ramsey, Robert L

I have looked through the examples, and that’s what is confusing me. 

 

All of the examples show exactly what you have written:

 

myFunction(event:MouseEvent)

{

Alert.show(“hello world”);

}

 

 

myLabel.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, myFunction);

 

 

When I try to do this:

 

myFunction(event:MouseEvent, myString:String)

{

//do something here

Alert.show(myString);

}

 

myLabel.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, myFunction(MouseEvent.CLICK, 
“hello”);

 

I get the following error:

1067: Implicit coercion of a value of type String to an unrelated type 
flash.events:MouseEvent.

 

The problem I’m having is finding the correct syntax to use when passing the 
string to myFunction.

 

Can you point me to the part of the manuals that would help me with that?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haykel 
BEN JEMIA
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:56 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] help w/ setting click events on dynamically created 
linkbuttons

 

Use addEventListener() for registering an event handler: 
myLabel.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, myFunction);

You should take time to read about event handling in Flex/AS3 as it's a basic 
and very important concept!

 

 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Ramsey, Robert L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 

I am working on a scheduling application and need some help working with 
dynamically created clickable objects.  I've been using linkbuttons, but 
anything that is clickable will work.

 

I have an array that may contain 0-N items, where N can be any number.  If N0, 
I need to create clickable linkbuttons that call a function.   What I'm doing 
is something like this:

 

  for each (var conflict:String in conflictArray)

  {

var myLabel:LinkButton = new LinkButton;

myLabel.label = conflict;

myLabel.y = myy;



myy += 20;


Application.application.conflictsPanel.addChild(myLabel);



  }

 

What I need to do is have each linkbutton call a function when it is clicked 
and pass two variables to that function.  What I'd like to be able to do is 
something like this:

 

myLabel.onClick(myFunction(label, label.length);

 

Is there an easy way to do this or a different clickable control I should be 
using?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob




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Web  RIA Development
http://www.allmas-tn.com



 

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RE: [flexcoders] help w/ setting click events on dynamically created linkbuttons

2008-09-25 Thread Ramsey, Robert L

I did finally find the syntax this morning:

 

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/communityengine/index.cfm?event=showdetailsproductId=2postId=9144

 

ABCButton.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK,function (e:MouseEvent) : void 
{ABCButtonListener(e,myPrivateSpecialObject);});

 

 

Using this syntax, I can pass variables to the CLICK event handler.  Of course, 
since I was iterating through an Array as I was creating the linkbuttons, it 
ended up using the value of the last entry in the Array for all of the values.  
Argh.

 

For this task, I’m shifting to radio buttons and a submit button.  I think it 
will be easier on me.

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haykel 
BEN JEMIA
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:40 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] help w/ setting click events on dynamically created 
linkbuttons

 

You can't pass any variables to the handler that way. The event handler 
function must have exactly one argument, the event object, or no arguments. If 
you need a reference to the clicked button for example, you can get it in the 
handler with event.target.

Doc: http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/events_01.html

 

 

 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Ramsey, Robert L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have looked through the examples, and that's what is confusing me. 

 

All of the examples show exactly what you have written:

 

myFunction(event:MouseEvent)

{

Alert.show(hello world);

}

 

 

myLabel.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, myFunction);

 

 

When I try to do this:

 

myFunction(event:MouseEvent, myString:String)

{

//do something here

Alert.show(myString);

}

 

myLabel.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, myFunction(MouseEvent.CLICK, 
hello);

 

I get the following error:

1067: Implicit coercion of a value of type String to an unrelated type 
flash.events:MouseEvent.

 

The problem I'm having is finding the correct syntax to use when passing the 
string to myFunction.

 

Can you point me to the part of the manuals that would help me with that?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

 

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haykel 
BEN JEMIA
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:56 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] help w/ setting click events on dynamically created 
linkbuttons

 

Use addEventListener() for registering an event handler: 
myLabel.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, myFunction);

You should take time to read about event handling in Flex/AS3 as it's a basic 
and very important concept!

 

 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Ramsey, Robert L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 

I am working on a scheduling application and need some help working with 
dynamically created clickable objects.  I've been using linkbuttons, but 
anything that is clickable will work.

 

I have an array that may contain 0-N items, where N can be any number.  If N0, 
I need to create clickable linkbuttons that call a function.   What I'm doing 
is something like this:

 

  for each (var conflict:String in conflictArray)

  {

var myLabel:LinkButton = new LinkButton;

myLabel.label = conflict;

myLabel.y = myy;



myy += 20;


Application.application.conflictsPanel.addChild(myLabel);



  }

 

What I need to do is have each linkbutton call a function when it is clicked 
and pass two variables to that function.  What I'd like to be able to do is 
something like this:

 

myLabel.onClick(myFunction(label, label.length);

 

Is there an easy way to do this or a different clickable control I should be 
using?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob






-- 
Haykel Ben Jemia

Allmas
Web  RIA Development
http://www.allmas-tn.com




-- 
Haykel Ben Jemia

Allmas
Web  RIA Development
http://www.allmas-tn.com



 

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[flexcoders] Trees for Every one

2008-09-10 Thread Robert Thompson

Since the left pane metaphor of a tree organizing hierarchical
information is such a widely used controls.

Is there a way we can all pull together and turn the Adobe Component
Explorer into an application that supports Drag and Drop.

I still do not see a Download .ZIP for this particular application.
Could someone from Adobe please send me a direct URL to the download?

And don't forget the Scene7.com Webinar in 61 minutes. I hope I'm
wrong, but my research tells me SaaS (Software as a Service) provided
in both Small and Large business editions.

Sure there's a lot of work out there in some geographic locations, and
in some cases remote contracts (I did one for a company in the UK),
but Procuring that opportunity on freelance bidding web sites, whether
it's a 50k+ project for a large business or much lesser for a Small
Business; it's a new change in things.

This is not about the, what I call Watercolor Configurator
technology on raster data that Scene7 is good at, and others know how
to do this as well and are even doing Master's Thesis' on it.

It's about the Press Statement to use this technology within FLEX to
Build FLEX Applications.

I hope nobody is fooled about the direct intended use of FLEX, and not
any diversions of eCatalogs and Configurators, those are just parts
within the FLEX plan as I have read them.

I hoping 54 minutes I'm wrong.

-r

On Sep 10, 2008, at 11:38 AM, juan.mendez wrote:

Manohar,, thank you for your insights.. i tried it but didn't work
for me..

so i used this one and it worked.
http://life.neophi.com/danielr/2007/05/mx_internal.html

what Manohar is trying to imply here is use _dropData. i am currently
working on a project where i have to detect the parent where a new
node in
the tree will reside. So i use _dropData, which tells me who the
parent is.
Based on that i can allow or disallow dropping the dragged item
inside the

parent...

But your input was what i was looking for, other than that. I am set
and

ready to prevent the event when dragDrop takes place..

I am planning to later explain in more detail..
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[flexcoders] Webinar tommorrow at 11am PST, 1pm EST (directly related to FLEX)

2008-09-10 Thread Robert Thompson


Don't forget Webinar tomorrow, 11am PST, 1pm EST.

Make sure you ask if FLEX is the interface, and Scene7 imaging  
technology (and cataloging) is just part of the FLEX design strategy,  
and make sure you ask if you'll be competing against Against Adobe  
head to head potentially, in both Small Business and Large Business  
SaaS's.


This is unprecedented; I'll say no more because I have plenty of  
research from web, LexNex, HiBm.


All these all-nighters have got me confused, the Webinar is tomorrow  
at 11am PST, and 1pm EST, here's the e-mail,


 Thank you for registering for our Webinar on Adobe Scene7 Rich  
Media Solutions.


 Date: Thursday, September 11th
 Time: 10 am – 11am PT (1 p.m. – 2 p.m. ET)

 Go to: http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/scene7ondemand/

 Type in your FIRST and LAST name in the open field, then click on  
the box that reads ENTER.


 For audio conferencing please call:
 Toll Free Dial In: 1-877-347-0176
 Dial In: 1-719-466-2386

 For international call-in numbers:
 http://www.scene7.com/registration/weekly_webinar_numbers.asp

 We look forward to your participation.

 Best regards,

 Marketing Staff
 Scene7 OnDemand Media Solutions
 Adobe Systems Incorporated

 If you've never used Adobe Acrobat Connect Professional, get a  
quick overview:

 
http://www.adobe.com/products/breeze/productinfo/meeting/experience/index_mm.html

Re: [flexcoders] Hi


Nancy,

We might be talking about different things.

(1) Under the FLEX 2.0 examples, you could, for example, go to the  
FLEX Style Explorer,


http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/samples/style_explorer/

(2) Then click on Experience the application which leads you to here,


http://examples.adobe.com/flex2/consulting/styleexplorer/Flex2StyleExplorer.html

(3) You can then Right Click anywhere on the app and click View  
Source and it appears for the MXML page, and then to the left you see  
all the files for actionscript, components, etc. And There is a  
download source (ZIP) link at the bottom.


Does any of this appear for you for the FLEX 3.0 component explorer  
below,


http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/componentexplorer/explorer.html

Or for any other FLEX 3.0 example for that matter?

Hopefully they will be updated soon.

-r

Re: [flexcoders] Hi

Thanks.  For whatever reason nothing appears in the bottom right  
corner for me, even on Internet Explorer, for the FLEX3 Component  
Explorer.


I'll check the sdk directory though.

Tried to run it right from the explorer.html but it wouldn't for  
Safari or Firefox.


I imagine it needs the http:// protocol instead of file://

I've figured out a lot since I got my MacPro but not how to start a  
small Web Server to test things via http://


Any Mac machines rule people out there that know how to do this?

-r

On Sep 9, 2008, at 4:15 AM, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote:



Paul and Nancy were talking about the bottom right pane of the  
explorer that displays the source of the selected control.


The sources of the explorer are available with Flex Builder. They  
are under sdks\version\samples\explorer.



On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Robert Thompson  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


Nancy,

We might be talking about different things.

(1) Under the FLEX 2.0 examples, you could, for example, go to the  
FLEX Style Explorer,


http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/samples/style_explorer/

(2) Then click on Experience the application which leads you to  
here,



http://examples.adobe.com/flex2/consulting/styleexplorer/Flex2StyleExplorer.html

(3) You can then Right Click anywhere on the app and click View  
Source and it appears for the MXML page, and then to the left you  
see all the files for actionscript, components, etc. And There is a  
download source (ZIP) link at the bottom.


Does any of this appear for you for the FLEX 3.0 component explorer  
below,


http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/componentexplorer/explorer.html

Or for any other FLEX 3.0 example for that matter?

Hopefully they will be updated soon.

-r

Re: [flexcoders] Can't remember the name of the application.


You might want to get a Mac for your next computer.

The Spyglass search beats Google Desktop and Mickeysoft's new Search  
hands down.


I found the explorer applications in the sdk's (see post: Re: Hi)  
just by typing sdk


The results came up as I typed and I just clicked on the folder.

I have Google Desktop on my Windoze PC and it's just not the same.

Though I like Google as a company.

-r

On Sep 9, 2008, at 4:51 AM, Mikhail Shevchuk wrote:


Hello, flexcoders!

There is a library or some tool that can be embedded into your
application that lets user to see the description of a given
component.
The feature of that tool is that it shows this information in runtime.
User just hovers(or something like this) over a button for example and
tooltip with the info bubbles out.

I have a set of nested containers and one of them has undesired
scrollers there, so I would like to know which of them is guilty :)
That is the reason I am searching this tool. This is pretty frequent
operation I have in my work so I'd like to optimize this job with this
tool.

Thanks in advance.

--
m. | http://creationcomplete.com

Re: [flexcoders] Hi


Hello Narayana,

There are no kings on this list so feel free to ask a question.

I have had contact with someone at Adobe about an upcoming portal so  
some of issues people have will go away hopefully.


In ActionScript 2.0, I don't have a file open but just from memory,  
you access the actual attribute by it's name instead of using a .  
specifier.


So, if you have a folder that is as such,

folder id=1Narayana/folder

Then you reference it when parsing it as,

theFolder (this would be Narayana if theFolder is an instance)

-or-

theFolder.id (this would be the 1)

Of course there may be others who can answer also, but that's just a  
quick help.


I'm a beginner in FDT Enterprise 3.0 which is awesome when used with  
the Open Source Flex SDK.


I have Flex Builder 3.0 Pro with ILOG, which is nice, but I feel the  
FDT and Open SDK route is safer given recent events.


But I'm not a beginner in Flash CS3 and all it's predecessors.

I kindly ask that nobody but Narayana or anyone who has anything but  
something positive and constructive to say to not respond with a flame  
thrower.


There are a few Narayana who will look down on your questions and  
waste more time complaining against you from a distance (which is  
cowardly; they wouldn't do it on the street).


You needn't bow down to them.

You've just right to this list as anyone and it seems one focused in  
on your word beginner instead of spending the same energy with a  
quick and easy and helpful response.


Just persist peacefully in asking questions and if someone say your  
Spamming the list this is just a habit some of the Kings have in  
responding, because they are legends in their own mind.


Forward, Focused thought.

-r


On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:53 AM, narayana wrote:


Hi Friends

am beginer in flex. please help me . i think here all are exports. my
problem is am reading xml file in flex program. am reading xml file is
node only. if its attribute how i can read?

i will show example xml file with node

TrustedCatreres

Contact
FirstName The Corner Deli/FirstName

Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Email
PhoneNumber (650) 000-1212/PhoneNumber
PostalAddress 1234 Stevens Creek Blvd, Cupertino, CA
/PostalAddress
LastName /LastName
/Contact

Contact
FirstName Good Earth/FirstName

Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Email
PhoneNumber (408) 555-/PhoneNumber
PostalAddress 567 Homestead Ave, Cupertino, CA
/PostalAddress
LastName /LastName
/Contact



/TrustedCatreres

this file i can read in flex program.

if xml has attribute below shown example

folderList
folder state= label=Today todo list isBranch=true 
folder cat=Travel state=High duedate=3/09/2008
isBranch=false label=book tickets /
folder cat=Social state=Low duedate=4/09/2008
isBranch=false label=Meeting at 7pm /
folder state= isBranch=true label=Home  
folder cat=Home state=High duedate=3/09/2008
isBranch=false label=Pay power bill /
folder cat=Home state=High duedate=3/09/2008
isBranch=false label=Pay rent /
folder cat=Home state=Low duedate=3/09/2008
isBranch=false label=Call parents /
folder cat=Home state=Low duedate=3/09/2008
isBranch=false label=Attend John birthday party /
folder cat=Home state=Medium duedate=3/09/2008
isBranch=false label=Special Updates /
folder cat=Home state=high isBranch=false label=get
Dr. appointment /
/folder
folder state= isBranch=true label=Office  
folder cat=Off state=High isBranch=false
label=Meeting at 5pm /
folder cat=Off state=Low isBranch=false
label=Complete document and send to client /
folder cat=Off state=Low isBranch=false
label=Interviews and Transcripts /
folder cat=Off state=High isBranch=false label=Set
Deployment machine /
folder cat=Off state=High isBranch=false label=send
status reports /
/folder
/folder 
/folderList


how can i read that xml atributes please help me.am requsting
all of my friends...

Re: [flexcoders] Hi

2008-09-08 Thread Robert Thompson

That's a great example alright...many applications lend themselves  
well to this kind of structure.


HOWEVER: There does not appear to be a Right-Click VIew Source which  
brings up a left pane and then allows you to download source.


With a lot on most people's plate, this is a good starter example to  
save time.


-r

On Sep 8, 2008, at 5:22 AM, Paul Andrews wrote:


Check out the Flex explorer - it has an example for you to follow.

http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/componentexplorer/explorer.html

Paul
- Original Message -
From: raj balaji
To: Flex Coders
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 9:55 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Hi

Hi all,
I want to use the repeater control in Actionscript, where the
repeater control should add the component dynamically, can u tell me  
how to

do that,,,
I am getting the data from xml...

Thanks in advance

Re: [flexcoders] Hi

2008-09-08 Thread Robert Thompson


Yes I've noticed that for nearly every other app.

But not this one,

http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/componentexplorer/explorer.html

I've tried in on Firefox and Safari.

-r

On Sep 8, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Paul Andrews wrote:



- Original Message -
From: Robert Thompson
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Hi

That's a great example alright...many applications lend themselves  
well to this kind of structure.


HOWEVER: There does not appear to be a Right-Click VIew Source which  
brings up a left pane and then allows you to download source.


Robert, every single example in the explorer comes with copyable  
source code shown in the bottom right pane of the explorer.


Paul

With a lot on most people's plate, this is a good starter example to  
save time.


-r

On Sep 8, 2008, at 5:22 AM, Paul Andrews wrote:


Check out the Flex explorer - it has an example for you to follow.

http://examples.adobe.com/flex3/componentexplorer/explorer.html

Paul
- Original Message -
From: raj balaji
To: Flex Coders
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 9:55 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Hi

Hi all,
I want to use the repeater control in Actionscript, where the
repeater control should add the component dynamically, can u tell  
me how to

do that,,,
I am getting the data from xml...

Thanks in advance

Re: [flexcoders] SEO and Flash content

2008-09-08 Thread Robert Thompson


Josh could you detail the googlebot and expand on what you write below?

-r

On Sep 8, 2008, at 10:19 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:



Google most definitely re-indexes from various different data- 
centres (read: class B addresses) and I'm sure also occasionally  
using random real user-agents, and will punish sites which  
consistently return A to googlebot and B to browsers. They'd be  
fools not to, and they hire a *lot* of very smart people.


-Josh

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had a meeting with ( forgot his name ) from Adobe and he gave me  
the scoop.


You will not be able to determine ( legally ) if and when your .swf  
is being indexed.  You can't even get a report on how successful /  
unsuccessful the spider was in crawling your .swf


There are no 'best practices' just don't try to 'cheat'. Apparently,  
Adobe and the other search providers have developed methods ( both  
separately and together )  to 'punish' those who spam their content.


My opinion of the whole thing

It's a Joke,  don't waste your time.  Remember that community effort  
to get ( i think it was  ) Flexalicious to pop up in google.  Well  
it failed nicely.



Alan

On Sep 8, 2008, at 8:54 PM, arieljake wrote:

I was wondering what it takes for the server to realize that a  
request

is coming from Google's indexing machines so that text can be output
instead of a Flex app.

Also, do we need to be careful doing this to not get in trouble with
Google? Are their best practices to follow when we output the text?





--
Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for  
thee.


http://flex.joshmcdonald.info/

:: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald
:: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[flexcoders] Re: Not receiving BrowserChangeEvent.BROWSER_URL_CHANGE in app - only in IE 7

2008-09-04 Thread Robert Lee

In the end, the problem was with history.js.  There is a fix posted
with flex bug SDK-14370.  I did have to fix the posted history.js - a
curly brace position problem.  Both IE and Firefox work fine now.



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Make sure you are running from http:// and not file://.  IE and BM don't
 work well in file:// mode
 
  
 
 
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of leerobertw68
 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:49 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Not receiving
 BrowserChangeEvent.BROWSER_URL_CHANGE in app - only in IE 7
 
  
 
 I have setup an event listener for the
 BrowserChangeEvent.BROWSER_URL_CHANGE event inside my flex
 application. Using Firefox, I receive this event if the URL is
 changed. But in IE, I do not get this event. Has anyone seen this
 happen?

[flexcoders] Re: FlexMDI Window help wanted

2008-09-02 Thread Robert Mangold

Lynn,
   I haven't used Cairngorm, so I can't comment on its effect.  Like you, the 
only documentation I found is on the Google site.  I would very much like to 
contribute toward the documentation effort, just as soon as I get out from 
under crunch time with this project.

RobM

 Thanks, I used their example on the flexmdi sans MDI blog but am still
 getting the same results. I am
 using the Cairngorm framework with WebORB connecting to a MySQL
 instance. I'm now wondering if it is a
Cairngorm framework problem with MDI. I will try a non-Cairngorm version
 (although that is not preferred).

 Do you know where they put the documentation for MDI besides the Google
 code website and the blogs? It mentions it several times in the blogs 
 but I can't find it.

Thanks,
Lynn

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?

It died yesterday and you just brought it to life again.

It wasn't just him telling me to F___ off.  It was my request  
thereafter to get off my back and he said No, I won't. Stop bringing  
bad things back to life.  I can't let a post to flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
   where there are many recipients of your e-mail go unanswered.

So it wasn't the nuclear option, it was him refusing to get off my back.

Your Confidentiality notice is kind of odd since you are posting to  
the whole group and have put in extensive legalese.

I did contract work for a company in the UK, I don't know why your  
including that kind of information in a post send to flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  instead of directly to my e-mail address.

-r

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 On Monday 01 Sep 2008, Robert Thompson wrote:
 I've reported you to Yahoo Abuse and Google Abuse for your cursing.

 I would have preferred your first step to be an appeal to the  
 moderators,
 rather than jumping for the nuclear option (if Google/Yahoo suspend  
 his
 account then it's not just here that is effected).

 Consider this a request to everyone to let this thread in  
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Re: [flexcoders] Who is Robert Thompson?

 options 
out there to cut my losses now and earn income on what I've developed and 
change direction for the long term future.

I hope this explains the matter, and please, only the OWNER OF THE FORUM 
contact me PERSONALLY by e-mail, PLEASE DO NOT let this escalate into a Forum 
vs. Robert.  That was never my intention, and Josh really let off some 
fire-works with that F___ off, regardless if others would blame me; I don't 
treat others like that and curse them and ask not to be cursed at.

/end

-r
 
On Tuesday, September 02, 2008, at 07:29AM, nathanpdaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Since he seems to be in EVERY thread... and why should we (not) listen 
to what he has to say?  Just curious...

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?

I asked politely not to talk about me anymore and explained myself in  
response to Matt Chotin.


In that message you'll find that I am not pissed off at Adobe.

Do not make statements about me with your typing.

I'm concerned and left it with and /end for this the 3rd time now  
until the Webinar is over.


So please, I ask you to stop personally addressing this at me and  
painting broad strokes.


I've left it alone - but I have to defend myself against a post like  
this.


Please stop, kindly.  I do admit I have strong opinions, but I don't  
get pissed these days, it's not in my healths best interest.


-r

On Sep 2, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Battershall, Jeff wrote:


Robert,

You're like the fox in the proverbial hen house just kickin' up a  
storm
when all us chickens just want to lay some eggs (hopefully golden  
ones).

You're a man with some strong opinions and I'll give you that, but at
this point we all just want to get on with our lives. I ask you,
courteously, to please desist with your Adobe agenda, at least on this
list. You're pissed at them, got it. You've made your point(s) and  
we'd

like to go back to what we were doing: giving technical advice and
receiving technical advice - about Flex.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
On

Behalf Of Robert Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:25 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?

It died yesterday and you just brought it to life again.

It wasn't just him telling me to F___ off. It was my request
thereafter to get off my back and he said No, I won't. Stop bringing
bad things back to life. I can't let a post to
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
where there are many recipients of your e-mail go unanswered.

So it wasn't the nuclear option, it was him refusing to get off my  
back.


Your Confidentiality notice is kind of odd since you are posting to
the whole group and have put in extensive legalese.

I did contract work for a company in the UK, I don't know why your
including that kind of information in a post send to
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
instead of directly to my e-mail address.

-r

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 On Monday 01 Sep 2008, Robert Thompson wrote:
 I've reported you to Yahoo Abuse and Google Abuse for your cursing.

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 moderators,
 rather than jumping for the nuclear option (if Google/Yahoo suspend
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex and Scene7, Flexstore license, List etiquette

Let me clear the air on me once and for all and say that Matt has put  
into words exactly what I, for whatever reason, of for being unknown  
or whatever, said differently and got concerned about.


The answer is, Yes, I am doing a lot of Bayesian Probability research  
(Indeterministic systems) and some of that has to do with recoloring  
sections of images.  I had the pleasure of speaking with one of the  
leaders in this field from Cornell University, although it wasn't in a  
proper setting, he at least recognized some of my points, and I some  
of his.


This man is extremely talented and a PhD of course, and deals with  
medical imaging.  Music and medical imaging are what got me on the  
road to Bayesian probability.


I just posted only one response in defense to someone mentioning me  
and I'd like to hide away in my nest egg as the person put it, and  
be left alone and out of your comments until September 12th when the  
Webinar is over.  And even then I probably won't post because some of  
the more frequent posters on this list, simply do not like me.


Can this be the /end and if not, can Matt Chotin's word's below be  
the end/ as although I don't know how he feels about me, I do  
respect him greatly.


-r

On Sep 2, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Matt Chotin wrote:


Hey guys,

I guess this is what I get for going on vacation last week huh?

Clearly most of you guys saw the threads last week (and even today  
frankly)
that I think went well over the line of what should be considered  
acceptable
list behavior. I'd like to remind everyone that the words you post  
here are
basically going to live on forever in search engines, mail archives,  
etc.
Try not to write things that are going to embarrass you in the  
future. And
while in general I don't have a problem with foul language (one need  
only
hang out with me briefly) I think this forum is not the place for  
it, and
ask that if you take the time to type it out, you take the time to  
take a
deep breath and use those backspace and delete keys. OK, play nice,  
issue

closed.

Robert was saying that there's a Scene 7 webinar and it will talk  
about Flex
and developers may want to pay attention. I think most of you should  
go and

attend but that's because I think that Scene 7 offers interesting
opportunities for various ecommerce solutions. I do not see Scene 7
competing with most of what you guys do (at least as far as I know).  
If
however you have a system that you sell to large ecommerce sites  
that does
high-end image manipulation including color changes and various  
transforms,
I think you may be a competitor. Other than that, I don't believe  
Scene 7

competes with what most Flex developers do.

Doesn't mean Adobe doesn't end up competing with customers. I always  
feel a
total tinge of guilt when I see a really cool product out there and  
know
that Adobe will compete in that area too. Adobe is a public company  
that

needs to grow, that means that we will not be contracting our areas of
focus, we will be expanding. We obviously have a huge stake in image
software, it is reasonable to assume that we will be going into the  
web
version of that pretty heavily (most folks would agree we'd be  
pretty stupid
not to). If you look at where Acrobat is successful (and as much as  
folks
hate Reader for being slow, it's really really successful) it is in  
business
productivity. You can imagine we'll be continuing along those lines  
(see

acrobat.com). So that's two examples, I'm sure there are others.

Last question was on Flexstore license and whether you can use it as  
the

basis for commercial software or whatever. Answer: yes. You can use
Flexstore to do whatever you want. I think all the samples we post  
on dev
center where source is available, you can treat that as being open  
to doing

whatever you want where it says see accompanying license.

Hope this helps,

Matt
Adobe
Flex Product Manager

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?


You are among a group.

I have received some e-mails discussing the nature of bullies on the  
list.


If there is any reason I don't stop it's because it's wrong to let a  
message like this go without answering.


Your words are aggressive, not mine.  I've not harassed you, you are  
harassing me (right now).


A secret petition says a lot about you, not me.

-r


On Sep 1, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote:



 I think your comment below is level headed and good, and here's  
where I stop.


You know how many times you said your going to stop?

Robert, your alone and you know it. You just don't see the signs  
man, you don't see the petition to get you banned from this list  
that is going around. The users on this list are against you, not  
sucking in your warm beautiful sun rays.


The funny thing is, the way you YELL at people and force false  
information down their throat,, by hijacking threads and changing  
titles, I'm sure this isn't the first time someone has told you to FO.


PS If I was a moderator of this forum, I would have banned you with  
this last tirade.


Mike

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

I'm simply responding to the F___ O___ statement.


There's no ego here.

Everyone contributes different things.

If FTD Enterprise 3.0 is not seen as a contribution with it's  
extensive toolset as an Eclipse FLEX compiler that works with the  
FLEX SDK than I'd say I disagree with you.


Check out the tool and you'll see that it provides a lot of  
[flexcoding] functionality that FLEX Builder does not.


Someone else asked about the Store, I made a reply, and he replied  
to me with a F___ O


I think any reasonable person looking at the sequence can see that  
he overstepped the bounds.


If it was said to you, I think you'd report it also.

I'm not trying to get him off the list.  After responding to his  
aggression I'll go back into my passive mode.


But I can't let a cowardly comment like that go unanswered.

-r

On Aug 31, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Guy Morton wrote:

Josh was perhaps ill-advised to put that in writing, but frankly,  
he just wrote what others are by now no doubt thinking.



Josh contributes MUCH more useful stuff to this list than you do  
Robert, so if you really have other people's interests at heart  
you'd not be trying to get him kicked off this list. The fact that  
you are suggests to me that your ego has outgrown your common sense.


Guy



On 01/09/2008, at 9:55 AM, Robert Thompson wrote:

Because of your cursing, I won't respond to any more questions on  
this thread.



However, take the we out of your statement telling me to F___  
O___ and calling my detailed responses schizophrenic paranoid  
delusional.


All others, attend the Webinar and try to protect your future by  
simply getting things straightened out.  If they change from what  
I've read, hurray for Adobe!


I'll leave it as a clear case of abuse in the form of expletives,  
and names.


- Goodbye, and please get some sleep or take your anger about your  
life out on someone else.




On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:

No, I won't get off your back, stop spamming the list with your  
insane whining. Ask Adobe followed by 4 pages of your paranoid  
schizophrenic delusional rambling is not answering the question.











--
Teoti Graphix, LLC
http://www.teotigraphix.com

Teoti Graphix Blog
http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com

You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the  
question'.

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?

Mike...if you'd just stop posting personal message against me this  
would all leave this group less cluttered.


To answer your statement.

Harassment is someone telling someone else to F___ off which Josh said  
to me for simply informing others about FDT Enterprise 3.0 which has  
several dozen enhancements to it's Eclipse IDE for [flexcoders] to  
structure their code; take care of global renaming and much more.


Contribution is letting other Flexcoders know of any tools out there  
that can provide them with higher quality, a more secure path for  
their investment in time and money into their coding, and more options  
to display on devices, including a group focused on GPU level  
programming for higher performance.  There's a great individual out  
there blogging about this and the Pixel Bender kit as related to  
[flexcoding] but I need not inform you of that, since you twist every  
contribution I try to make.


I'm asking you politely to stop harassing me.  If you have a petition  
that you say you are secretly sending around to get me kicked off this  
list, then I'm sure Yahoo will forward it to me, and I'll take action  
at that time if there needs to be any proper handling of it, and your  
abusive attitude.


Let people speak.  Stop trying to stop good information out.  For the  
last time, direct your anger somewhere else, as it was in there a long  
time before you saw me online; I'm pretty convinced of that given your  
words which show your state of mind.


Try to leave it alone.  If you don't, that's your choice.  But  
continued personal comments about me are wrong to go unanswered when  
Yahoo is looking into this.  And nobody has done anything of extreme  
totality except for the threatening words of Josh to me.  If he's  
willing to say them in public online from a distance, there's far more  
implications in the real world, which is why Yahoo takes those  
comments so seriously.  It's threatening in an extreme aggressive way.


-r

On Sep 1, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote:



No, I don't think you have the capacity to understand what  
harassment is.


 If there is any reason I don't stop it's because it's wrong to let  
a message like this go without answering.


No, you just hijack threads and change titles.

 Your words are aggressive,

damn right they are

 A secret petition says a lot about you, not me.

It does, it says I'm on the other side.

Mike

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Robert Thompson  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


You are among a group.

I have received some e-mails discussing the nature of bullies on the  
list.


If there is any reason I don't stop it's because it's wrong to let a  
message like this go without answering.


Your words are aggressive, not mine.  I've not harassed you, you are  
harassing me (right now).


A secret petition says a lot about you, not me.

-r


On Sep 1, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote:



 I think your comment below is level headed and good, and here's  
where I stop.


You know how many times you said your going to stop?

Robert, your alone and you know it. You just don't see the signs  
man, you don't see the petition to get you banned from this list  
that is going around. The users on this list are against you, not  
sucking in your warm beautiful sun rays.


The funny thing is, the way you YELL at people and force false  
information down their throat,, by hijacking threads and changing  
titles, I'm sure this isn't the first time someone has told you to  
FO.


PS If I was a moderator of this forum, I would have banned you with  
this last tirade.


Mike

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

I'm simply responding to the F___ O___ statement.


There's no ego here.

Everyone contributes different things.

If FTD Enterprise 3.0 is not seen as a contribution with it's  
extensive toolset as an Eclipse FLEX compiler that works with the  
FLEX SDK than I'd say I disagree with you.


Check out the tool and you'll see that it provides a lot of  
[flexcoding] functionality that FLEX Builder does not.


Someone else asked about the Store, I made a reply, and he replied  
to me with a F___ O


I think any reasonable person looking at the sequence can see that  
he overstepped the bounds.


If it was said to you, I think you'd report it also.

I'm not trying to get him off the list.  After responding to his  
aggression I'll go back into my passive mode.


But I can't let a cowardly comment like that go unanswered.

-r

On Aug 31, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Guy Morton wrote:

Josh was perhaps ill-advised to put that in writing, but frankly,  
he just wrote what others are by now no doubt thinking.



Josh contributes MUCH more useful stuff to this list than you do  
Robert, so if you really have other people's interests at heart  
you'd not be trying to get him kicked off this list. The fact that  
you are suggests to me that your ego has outgrown your common sense.


Guy



On 01

[flexcoders] Options on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX


Just as a note on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX.

Papervision3D just posted news of their contest, endorsed FDT  
Enterprise Edition as their preferred ActionScript Editor.


From Papervision3D.org, quote,

2nd Place- VectorVision - Winner of FDT Enterprise Edition (our  
preferred ActionScript editor)


Papervision3D is a great organization who has dramatically improved  
flexcoding possibilities.


FDT + Papervision3D = Great news for everyone.

http://blog.papervision3d.org/

-r

Note: As a recommendation I was given, I note that this is an  
appropriately verified post to inform [flexcoders] of important  
information. Please do not reply in a counter-productive or aggressive  
fashion to good news that provides value to [flexcoders]  :-)

Re: [flexcoders] Options on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX

Well, not everyone, I just discovered it through JumpEye components  
last week through an announcement by them.


I'm not psychic either, nor am I a diplomate repainting someone's well  
intended post by painting them as a public service announcer.  It's a  
great tool, I'm sorry if you know everyone's mind and what they're  
thinking here to presume they know about 3.0 and the 3.1 beta.


I have no affiliation with PowerFlasher (FDT) or Papervision, so I'm  
not a public service announcer.


With the exceptions of people writing me that they agree people should  
not be ganging up and policing people on simple posts that they can  
read or not read, it appears that there is a small group of close knit  
cuddled up people here who don't like anyone posting but themselves.   
Now that's sad.


So is being told to F___ off by Josh and it's glossed over like it's  
nothing.


This is sad and this list certainly has changed in the past year.  But  
it's not me crying.  I'm not sure if you believe in karma, but all  
this stuff is just ridiculous.


It's not logical for 2-3 people to keep say we and nobody here  
unless it's a small cuddled group; why don't you just ignore whatever  
it is that keeps offending your peeps.


-r

On Sep 1, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Paul Andrews wrote:



Robert loads of people already know about FDT, many people here and  
on flashcoders use it. Nobody here wants anyone acting like some  
public service announcer here on the forums. It's highly patronising  
to list. It'all going to end in tears.

- Original Message -
From: Robert Thompson
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Options on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX

Just as a note on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX.

Papervision3D just posted news of their contest, endorsed FDT  
Enterprise Edition as their preferred ActionScript Editor.


From Papervision3D.org, quote,

2nd Place- VectorVision - Winner of FDT Enterprise Edition (our  
preferred ActionScript editor)


Papervision3D is a great organization who has dramatically improved  
flexcoding possibilities.


FDT + Papervision3D = Great news for everyone.

http://blog.papervision3d.org/

-r

Note: As a recommendation I was given, I note that this is an  
appropriately verified post to inform [flexcoders] of important  
information. Please do not reply in a counter-productive or  
aggressive fashion to good news that provides value to  
[flexcoders]  :-)

Re: [flexcoders] Options on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX

By the way, the Enterprise version, which I'm still in a 30 day  
evaluation of, was just released in March (and again I just discovered  
it, and you somehow know most people on the list use it, I've done  
some searches on the group and see no evidence of that lofty claim).


How is it you are speaking for everyone that I shouldn't post what I  
said below FDT Enterprise Edition and you write back a  
diplomatically polite, but obvious intended message.


Just leave my posts alone if you don't like them.  I share the  
excitement of a great new tool discovered, are you pompously speak for  
everyone and implicitly tell me to shut up by calling me a public  
service announcer.


This is just you and Josh and a few others who appear to want to be  
the only people contributing anything here.


Nothing is as clear as the message of Josh to tell me to F off.   
Yet you ignore that.  Hypocrisy.


-r


On Sep 1, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Paul Andrews wrote:



Robert loads of people already know about FDT, many people here and  
on flashcoders use it. Nobody here wants anyone acting like some  
public service announcer here on the forums. It's highly patronising  
to list. It'all going to end in tears.

- Original Message -
From: Robert Thompson
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Options on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX

Just as a note on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX.

Papervision3D just posted news of their contest, endorsed FDT  
Enterprise Edition as their preferred ActionScript Editor.


From Papervision3D.org, quote,

2nd Place- VectorVision - Winner of FDT Enterprise Edition (our  
preferred ActionScript editor)


Papervision3D is a great organization who has dramatically improved  
flexcoding possibilities.


FDT + Papervision3D = Great news for everyone.

http://blog.papervision3d.org/

-r

Note: As a recommendation I was given, I note that this is an  
appropriately verified post to inform [flexcoders] of important  
information. Please do not reply in a counter-productive or  
aggressive fashion to good news that provides value to  
[flexcoders]  :-)

Re: [flexcoders] Options on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX


Thanks Randy.

I never had an issue with Josh and didn't know who he was until he  
said fo.


The problem is that I've had several posts that he's responded to  
negatively.


I've asked him to get off my back.

He said, No I won't then the fo.

The reason the fo is significant is that it's not discussion - it's  
just a cowardly give in to analytical reasoning.


People speak - we exchange words of meaning.  He broke down and let  
out some level of anger that again, I say he just must have already  
been having a bad day.


it's off my table.  perhaps you can tell him to not respond negatively  
to my posts and get off my back, because he said very clearly No I  
won't.


-r

On Sep 1, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Randy Martin wrote:



OK. I’ve been reading this thread with some interest. After all,  
everyone needs a little humor in their daily life. J  I’m amazed  
that we, as human beings, still let words anger us so much. So what  
if someone tells you to FO? “Sticks and stones may break your bones,  
but words…” If you lived in New York or New Jersey, you’d probably  
hear the f-word several hundred times a day in normal conversation.  
They’d just tell you to “forget about it.”




So, Robert, my suggestion to you (and it’s just a suggestion – I  
would never presume to tell you what to do) is to just let it go. If  
you have an issue with Josh, please take it off-list. After all, it  
is just between you and Josh. Also, just as a last little  
observation, Robert, “thou dost protest too much, methinks.” In the  
immortal words of the Eagles on their Hell Freezes Over comeback  
album, just “Get Over It.”




Of course, that’s just my opinion. I could be wrong – I’ve been  
wrong at least one other time that I can remember. J




~randy



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
On Behalf Of Robert Thompson

Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 3:37 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Options on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX



By the way, the Enterprise version, which I'm still in a 30 day  
evaluation of, was just released in March (and again I just  
discovered it, and you somehow know most people on the list use it,  
I've done some searches on the group and see no evidence of that  
lofty claim).




How is it you are speaking for everyone that I shouldn't post what I  
said below FDT Enterprise Edition and you write back a  
diplomatically polite, but obvious intended message.




Just leave my posts alone if you don't like them.  I share the  
excitement of a great new tool discovered, are you pompously speak  
for everyone and implicitly tell me to shut up by calling me a  
public service announcer.




This is just you and Josh and a few others who appear to want to be  
the only people contributing anything here.




Nothing is as clear as the message of Josh to tell me to F off.   
Yet you ignore that.  Hypocrisy.




-r





On Sep 1, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Paul Andrews wrote:






Robert loads of people already know about FDT, many people here and  
on flashcoders use it. Nobody here wants anyone acting like some  
public service announcer here on the forums. It's highly patronising  
to list. It'all going to end in tears.


- Original Message -

From: Robert Thompson

To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:38 PM

Subject: [flexcoders] Options on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX



Just as a note on ActionScript 3.0 Editing in FLEX.



Papervision3D just posted news of their contest, endorsed FDT  
Enterprise Edition as their preferred ActionScript Editor.




From Papervision3D.org, quote,



2nd Place- VectorVision - Winner of FDT Enterprise Edition (our  
preferred ActionScript editor)




Papervision3D is a great organization who has dramatically improved  
flexcoding possibilities.




FDT + Papervision3D = Great news for everyone.



http://blog.papervision3d.org/



-r



Note: As a recommendation I was given, I note that this is an  
appropriately verified post to inform [flexcoders] of important  
information. Please do not reply in a counter-productive or  
aggressive fashion to good news that provides value to  
[flexcoders]  :-)

Re: [flexcoders] Re: What is Flexcoders?


I think those posts have ended, at least by me.

I said very clearly in one post to that I would make an effort to stay  
focused on [flexcoders] which is why i've been using that name when  
referring to something.


my last post was on FDT Enterprise - that's all.  and then the ball  
came swinging again.


the issue is over for me.

as for ol which i won't mention by full name you just mentioned it,  
the whole reason I brought that up is because i've been trying to  
decide for months on the best way to invest flexcoding time into place  
where it won't just die one day due to some big change in the  
industryand that's where my inquiry all began...in just that


so i don't think it's off topic if i [flexcode] and want that code to  
be able to work with other runtimes, so that one day i don't wake up  
and a few years of investment in time and money are gone.


i made that point, from then on it was 1 person angry with me, then  
another polite, then the fo remark / better to deal with something  
sooner rather than later.


can we go back to my /end which was made so clear in the topic  
heading to stop this, because Josh clearly said No I won't (get off  
my back I asked).


-r


On Sep 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Guy Morton wrote:

Of course, having said that, we do need to draw the line somewhere.  
eg if you were to have a


situation where one list member was:

* going on and on about the  same topic excessively despite the  
annoyance that this was

  causing many other list members

* padding replies with unrelated rants about pet topics

* making ongoing recommendations of other technologies, like say,  
Open Laszlo


* writing posts long on rhetoric but short on relevant facts

I think at some point then, someone might have to tell them to pull  
their heads in.


What do you think?

Guy


On 29/08/2008, at 8:55 AM, Tim Hoff wrote:



Fair enough and thanks for the opinion. Yes, the previous Silverlight
discussion also fits into this category. Don't get me wrong, my  
opinion

is just one in this group and the delete key is my friend also. Just
trying to keep it somewhat real.

Thanks Guy,
-TH

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't think anyone is much interested in personal rants, but  
there

 is a decent-sized grey area of topics that some people believe are
off-
 topic and want to suppress (my recent discussion with the MS  
product

 manager for Silverlight being one example). Personally, I think
 considered rational discussion about Flex in the context of other
 technologies is something every developer should take at least a
 passing interest in.

 The vast majority of the email that lands in my flexcoders folder  
is
 of no immediate interest to me and I'm sure others must have the  
same
 experience on such a busy list for a product with such a broad  
range
 of applications. As a result, I think tolerating the odd thread  
that

 doesn't specifically relate to coding in Flex isn't that hard.

 I'd encourage those who are prone to trying to kill off threads  
they
 don't personally like to consider that developers are a broad  
church
 and that we should perhaps keep an open mind about what others  
choose
 to contribute, so long as it relates to Flex in some significant  
way.


 If a discussion doesn't interest you, use the delete key!

 Guy


 On 29/08/2008, at 7:35 AM, Tim Hoff wrote:

 
  Hi All,
 
  This is the text from the original FlexcodersFAQ.txt file:
 
  1. What is Flexcoders?
 
  Flexcoders is a forum where developers can ask questions about  
Flex,

  FlexBuilder, and Flex-related technologies (like Cairngorm and
  FlexUnit). The community is made up of everyday Flex developers  
as

  well as Adobe employees. However, this is not an official Adobe-
  sponsored forum, it is moderated by the community. However the
  original moderators who are still actively involved are folks  
from

  iteration::two, now members of Adobe Consulting.
 
  In light of some recent threads, that have clearly been personal
  comentary, instead of flex-related technology questions, I  
thought
  that it might be useful at this time to reinforce the spirit of  
this
  list, and to also ask the list how others feel about personal  
rants

  posted here. Are there others that feel that the number of off-
  topic threads has increased to the point that it's getting out of
  hand and that the appropriate place for these type of posts  
should
  be personal blogs; instead of this list? I realize that this  
isn't
  a technology question in itself, but it seems that people are  
hoping
  that by ignoring those that are abusing the list, that they  
will go

  away. This doesn't appear to be the case.
 
  Thanks in advance for your responses,
  -TH

Re: [flexcoders] Re: What is Flexcoders?


Aussies...

Australian swimmers are pretty awesome.  The track team I was on in  
college and the swim team used to hang out a lot.  I dated an all- 
american swimmer (best looking girlfriend I've had up to that point),  
and I saw some of the swim team members at some of last few Olympics  
and trials.  Swimmers, especially Aussies are fierce competitors.


http://www.swimming.org.au/

Why are aussies so good at swimming?  Is in their genetics or just a  
really good ahtletic program down there?


Ian Thorpe is one of the greatest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9T_-oiYppgfeature=related

We had a few exchange students from Australia when I was in H.S., one  
was state champ (same year I was; NO EGO)


I'm american (don't hold that against me :)

-r

On Sep 1, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Guy Morton wrote:


Yeah, Doug, we're Australians. No Labor Day holidays for us!


Of course, being Australians, we were drunk anyway.


On 02/09/2008, at 8:43 AM, Josh McDonald wrote:



Curse you doug! We don't have any more public holidays until the  
26th of December!


But then, I *do* get to live in Queensland :D

-Josh

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Doug McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
Guys, it's labor day. Can we all please just go outside and get  
drunk? Spend time with your loved ones and let's all stop being  
obsessed with a dumb mailing list argument. Go eat a hamburger,  
drink about 12 beers, and realize that none of this nonsense matters.


Doug





--
Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for  
thee.


:: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald
:: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?

To answer your question about any purchaser of Adobe products having
to license an example they put out for use.

Microsoft, Adobe, nearly every company puts (C) Copyright statements
in it's examples.

This is to prevent competitors from outright distributing code they
have no right to.

As examples to the FLEX Builder Product Owner, these examples have a
very real place in teaching you how things are done.

The Hybrid and Store 2.0 examples are frankly not as complicated as
you might think - as long as you base all your data exchange on XML.

As long as you create your own system, I wouldn't worry about it. But
the future of AIR and Flash Player I would worry about.

My hope is Papervision comes out with their own Plug-in; as at this
point and time, it's the perfect timing to let Flash Player 9 and
earlier deal with all the earlier sites.

And spread the word, if they choose to develop one, a Papervision3D
plug-in, and began where FutureWave did, with a fresh new high
performance platform for Visual Computing.

The IT integration with things like Cold Fusion can then happen in
more of a W3C and SOAP XML complaint way (Or RESTful XML way).

I myself am playing things safer, including in the use of any
ColdFusion, by taking the following route:

Using FTD Enterprise 3.0 as my IDE so it's not an Adobe Product
Using Open .SWF formats and tools, and Flash CS3 only when necessary
for my clients
Working on a new Cycling '72 like visual interface for programming and
generating .SWF's (or hopefully .P3D's if Papervision3D hopefully goes
out on their own since it appears Adobe cannot be trusted and is
getting prideful and greedy in my opinion (what they're trying to do
now with Acrobat is a joke; and I thought that before the discoveries
of last week)
Encouraging Papervision3D to go out on their own and take this great
opportunity in time and be the next FutureSplash by developing their
own plug-in

Integrating CUDO graphic support into OpenLaszlo.org version 4.0
Anything that allows use of Adobe products only when necessary, and
changing focus on W3C Standards and more reasonable people who are
less greedy to do not charge large sums of money to a development
community and then turn on them. Even Microsoft is not doing with
Adobe is doing. I've always saw them as a deal with when necessary
company and was pulling for them 100% until last week. I have no love
for them at all anymore. I see a dark future for them as they are
growing lustful obviously with the possibilities of AIR. Things will
change though.

The safest route at this time while Adobe is creating FLEX
applications for these companies, is to take a step back, and big
breath, and look at the long-term future of the Web.

Look at the clients they have served on Scene7.com and the fact that a
FLEX interface is, was, and will continue to be used to complete
projects like the NIKE project (which many of us on this list have the
capability of doing)

Here's the NIKE project,

http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?cp=USNS_AD_0724081536l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001re=USco=USla=EN#l
=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/
pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001re=USco=USla=EN

Here's the client list that some of FLEX coders who spent money on
projects could have possibly bid on (whether it's ELanc.com or any of
the other freelance, or bidding hubs out there),

1154 LILL STUDIO
AdsPay USA
AGAM Group, Ltd.
Aircraft Shopper Online
AlluraDirect.com
Al's Formal Wear
Amazon.com
Anderson Press Incorporated
Annalee Mobilitee Dolls, Inc.
Ann Taylor
Anthropologie
ARTstor
Art Van Furniture
Auction123, Inc.
Baghaus
Bare Necessities
Baseball Express, Inc.
Bass Pro Shops
Bassett Furniture
Bath Body Works
Beall’s Department Stores, Inc.
Beau Ties Ltd. of Vermont
Behr Paint
Benchmark Brands
Bernie Phyl's Furniture
Bertolini Sanctuary Seating
Best Co.
Blockbuster
Bloomingdale's
Bombay Company
Brewster Wallcovering Company
Bronner’s CHRISTmas Wonderland
Butterfield Robinson
California State University at Fullerton
Calvert Education Services
Casual Male Retail Group, Inc.
CATFootwear.com
Cathy's Concept
Cendant
Chaparral Motorsports
Chicago Historical Society
Chic Mystique
Children's Wear Digest
Cloudveil
Club Colors
Coldwater Creek
Commemorative Brands
Cookie Lee
Corporate Express
Cost Plus, Inc.
CPA2Biz
Cutter Buck
David's Bridal
DayTimers
Delightful Deliveries
Delta Faucet Company
Dennis Kirk
Design Center Solutions (DCS)
Design Toscano
Design Within Reach
Diamond H Recognition
Direct Supply, Inc.
Drexel Heritage Furniture Industries, Inc.
DoItYourself.com
eBags.com
eBizAutos
Eddie Bauer
Eileen Fisher, Inc
EMI Plastic Equipment
enavia.com
Exclusively Weddings
ExOfficio
F. Schumacher Co.
Fathead
Filativa
Finestationery.com
Fiori Belli
Follett Higher Education Group
Fortunoff.com
Forzieri
Foto Source Canada Inc
Fresh Produce
Furniturefind.com
Furniture

Re: [flexcoders] Re: download many files at a time


There is one out there I remember seeing it.

It's a Flash Downloader also and looks similar to the Safari Download  
Dialog in that it stacks the progress bars on top of each other.


I'll look for it and see if I can post a link to it for you on this  
forum.


Just remember me as that guy who's trying to help out, there's not  
much left for me to do, but exactly that, and it's a good feeling  
(despite the hat'in by a few people on this forum).


-r

On Aug 31, 2008, at 12:47 PM, dialogtmp wrote:




Thank you!

But this is also my problem.

Has any method only show a dialog when download many files?

Can flex customize method like customizing component?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, bjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's possible, but you need to show a new save dialog for each
file though.

 2008/8/28 dialogtmp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  hello,all
 
  I want to let user to download many files at a time, but I can't
use
  the server side language to implement.
 
  I have already searched much information, but still could not
find the
  solution.
 
  How should I do?
 
  Dose it possible implement in flex?
 
  thanks,
  dialogtmp
 
 
 



 --

 
 http://www.juicability.com - flex blog
 http://www.43min.com - funny movies

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?


Listen,

I didn't post the question but was answering it.

And told the person it's the best thing to do to contact them and that  
it's standard to (C) samples so they aren't misused.


So get off my back.

As for your your expletive, I'll make sure and pass it on to Yahoo.

I doubt you'd make that comment in person Sherif.

If you care to, come visit my town,  I'll make sure and call the  
Sheriff and you can spend the night in jail.


-r


On Aug 31, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Sherif Abdou wrote:



WEll, I would email Adobe since it says this on every file

//
// Copyright (C) 2003-2006 Adobe Macromedia Software LLC and its  
licensors.

// All Rights Reserved.
// The following is Sample Code and is subject to all restrictions  
on such code
// as contained in the End User License Agreement accompanying this  
product.

// If you have received this file from a source other than Adobe,
// then your use, modification, or distribution of it requires
// the prior written permission of Adobe.
//

and can we stop complaining and spamming now about Adobe and scene7  
already.1) Your answer had nothing to do with the question and  
welcome to the world.
 2_If your that scared from losing some bids and the job then you  
don't belong to this business, just saying.
3) You have to adapt and move on, and FutureWave/FutureSplash is  
technically Adobe Flash.

4)Papervision plug-in? What are you talking about?


- Original Message -
From: Robert Thompson
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?


To answer your question about any purchaser of Adobe products having  
to license an example they put out for use.


Microsoft, Adobe, nearly every company puts (C) Copyright statements  
in it's examples.


This is to prevent competitors from outright distributing code they  
have no right to.


As examples to the FLEX Builder Product Owner, these examples have a  
very real place in teaching you how things are done.


The Hybrid and Store 2.0 examples are frankly not as complicated as  
you might think - as long as you base all your data exchange on XML.


As long as you create your own system, I wouldn't worry about it.   
But the future of AIR and Flash Player I would worry about.


My hope is Papervision comes out with their own Plug-in; as at this  
point and time, it's the perfect timing to let Flash Player 9 and  
earlier deal with all the earlier sites.


And spread the word, if they choose to develop one, a Papervision3D  
plug-in, and began where FutureWave did, with a fresh new high  
performance platform for Visual Computing.


The IT integration with things like Cold Fusion can then happen in  
more of a W3C and SOAP XML complaint way (Or RESTful XML way).


I myself am playing things safer, including in the use of any  
ColdFusion, by taking the following route:


Using FTD Enterprise 3.0 as my IDE so it's not an Adobe Product
Using Open .SWF formats and tools, and Flash CS3 only when necessary  
for my clients
Working on a new Cycling '72 like visual interface for programming  
and generating .SWF's (or hopefully .P3D's if Papervision3D  
hopefully goes out on their own since it appears Adobe cannot be  
trusted and is getting prideful and greedy in my opinion (what  
they're trying to do now with Acrobat is a joke; and I thought that  
before the discoveries of last week)
Encouraging Papervision3D to go out on their own and take this great  
opportunity in time and be the next FutureSplash by developing  
their own plug-in

Integrating CUDO graphic support into OpenLaszlo.org version 4.0
Anything that allows use of Adobe products only when necessary, and  
changing focus on W3C Standards and more reasonable people who are  
less greedy to do not charge large sums of money to a development  
community and then turn on them.  Even Microsoft is not doing with  
Adobe is doing.  I've always saw them as a deal with when  
necessary company and was pulling for them 100% until last week.  I  
have no love for them at all anymore.  I see a dark future for them  
as they are growing lustful obviously with the possibilities of  
AIR.  Things will change though.


The safest route at this time while Adobe is creating FLEX  
applications for these companies, is to take a step back, and big  
breath, and look at the long-term future of the Web.


Look at the clients they have served on Scene7.com and the fact that  
a FLEX interface is, was, and will continue to be used to complete  
projects like the NIKE project (which many of us on this list have  
the capability of doing)


Here's the NIKE project,

http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?cp=USNS_AD_0724081536l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001re=USco=USla=EN#l 
=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/ 
pid-98967

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?

Well it looks like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh McDonald) used that expletive.

So I redirect. Don't try to start a real fight by telling some one to
f___ o___ as you did.

And if you dare have the guts to threaten someone in such a way,
either make an arrangement legally to get in the dojo, or come talk to
the Sheriff in my town.

I take your comment as a direct threat.

-r

On Aug 31, 2008, at 6:36 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:

Look buddy, everybody in here's been real polite so far.

Fuck off.

-Josh

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Robert Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
To answer your question about any purchaser of Adobe products having
to license an example they put out for use.

Microsoft, Adobe, nearly every company puts (C) Copyright statements
in it's examples.

This is to prevent competitors from outright distributing code they
have no right to.

As examples to the FLEX Builder Product Owner, these examples have a
very real place in teaching you how things are done.

The Hybrid and Store 2.0 examples are frankly not as complicated as
you might think - as long as you base all your data exchange on XML.

As long as you create your own system, I wouldn't worry about it.
But the future of AIR and Flash Player I would worry about.

My hope is Papervision comes out with their own Plug-in; as at this
point and time, it's the perfect timing to let Flash Player 9 and
earlier deal with all the earlier sites.

And spread the word, if they choose to develop one, a Papervision3D
plug-in, and began where FutureWave did, with a fresh new high
performance platform for Visual Computing.

The IT integration with things like Cold Fusion can then happen in
more of a W3C and SOAP XML complaint way (Or RESTful XML way).

I myself am playing things safer, including in the use of any
ColdFusion, by taking the following route:

Using FTD Enterprise 3.0 as my IDE so it's not an Adobe Product
Using Open .SWF formats and tools, and Flash CS3 only when necessary
for my clients
Working on a new Cycling '72 like visual interface for programming
and generating .SWF's (or hopefully .P3D's if Papervision3D
hopefully goes out on their own since it appears Adobe cannot be
trusted and is getting prideful and greedy in my opinion (what
they're trying to do now with Acrobat is a joke; and I thought that
before the discoveries of last week)
Encouraging Papervision3D to go out on their own and take this great
opportunity in time and be the next FutureSplash by developing
their own plug-in

Integrating CUDO graphic support into OpenLaszlo.org version 4.0
Anything that allows use of Adobe products only when necessary, and
changing focus on W3C Standards and more reasonable people who are
less greedy to do not charge large sums of money to a development
community and then turn on them. Even Microsoft is not doing with
Adobe is doing. I've always saw them as a deal with when
necessary company and was pulling for them 100% until last week. I
have no love for them at all anymore. I see a dark future for them
as they are growing lustful obviously with the possibilities of
AIR. Things will change though.

The safest route at this time while Adobe is creating FLEX
applications for these companies, is to take a step back, and big
breath, and look at the long-term future of the Web.

Look at the clients they have served on Scene7.com and the fact that
a FLEX interface is, was, and will continue to be used to complete
projects like the NIKE project (which many of us on this list have
the capability of doing)

Here's the NIKE project,

Here's the client list that some of FLEX coders who spent money on
projects could have possibly bid on (whether it's ELanc.com or any
of the other freelance, or bidding hubs out there),

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?


All of that talk is overwith.

I've reported you to Yahoo Abuse and Google Abuse for your cursing.

It's cowardly.  Very much so.  Says more about you than me.

-r


On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:



No, I won't get off your back, stop spamming the list with your  
insane whining. Ask Adobe followed by 4 pages of your paranoid  
schizophrenic delusional rambling is not answering the question.


We get it. You're worried about Adobe competing against developers.  
Now shut the hell up about it, some of us have *actual* problems to  
solve.


-Josh

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Robert Thompson  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

Listen,

I didn't post the question but was answering it.

And told the person it's the best thing to do to contact them and  
that it's standard to (C) samples so they aren't misused.


So get off my back.

As for your your expletive, I'll make sure and pass it on to Yahoo.

I doubt you'd make that comment in person Sherif.

If you care to, come visit my town,  I'll make sure and call the  
Sheriff and you can spend the night in jail.


-r


On Aug 31, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Sherif Abdou wrote:



WEll, I would email Adobe since it says this on every file

//
// Copyright (C) 2003-2006 Adobe Macromedia Software LLC and its  
licensors.

// All Rights Reserved.
// The following is Sample Code and is subject to all restrictions  
on such code
// as contained in the End User License Agreement accompanying this  
product.

// If you have received this file from a source other than Adobe,
// then your use, modification, or distribution of it requires
// the prior written permission of Adobe.
//

and can we stop complaining and spamming now about Adobe and scene7  
already.1) Your answer had nothing to do with the question and  
welcome to the world.
 2_If your that scared from losing some bids and the job then you  
don't belong to this business, just saying.
3) You have to adapt and move on, and FutureWave/FutureSplash is  
technically Adobe Flash.

4)Papervision plug-in? What are you talking about?


- Original Message -
From: Robert Thompson
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?


To answer your question about any purchaser of Adobe products  
having to license an example they put out for use.


Microsoft, Adobe, nearly every company puts (C) Copyright  
statements in it's examples.


This is to prevent competitors from outright distributing code they  
have no right to.


As examples to the FLEX Builder Product Owner, these examples have  
a very real place in teaching you how things are done.


The Hybrid and Store 2.0 examples are frankly not as complicated as  
you might think - as long as you base all your data exchange on XML.


As long as you create your own system, I wouldn't worry about it.   
But the future of AIR and Flash Player I would worry about.


My hope is Papervision comes out with their own Plug-in; as at this  
point and time, it's the perfect timing to let Flash Player 9 and  
earlier deal with all the earlier sites.


And spread the word, if they choose to develop one, a Papervision3D  
plug-in, and began where FutureWave did, with a fresh new high  
performance platform for Visual Computing.


The IT integration with things like Cold Fusion can then happen in  
more of a W3C and SOAP XML complaint way (Or RESTful XML way).


I myself am playing things safer, including in the use of any  
ColdFusion, by taking the following route:


Using FTD Enterprise 3.0 as my IDE so it's not an Adobe Product
Using Open .SWF formats and tools, and Flash CS3 only when  
necessary for my clients
Working on a new Cycling '72 like visual interface for programming  
and generating .SWF's (or hopefully .P3D's if Papervision3D  
hopefully goes out on their own since it appears Adobe cannot be  
trusted and is getting prideful and greedy in my opinion (what  
they're trying to do now with Acrobat is a joke; and I thought that  
before the discoveries of last week)
Encouraging Papervision3D to go out on their own and take this  
great opportunity in time and be the next FutureSplash by  
developing their own plug-in

Integrating CUDO graphic support into OpenLaszlo.org version 4.0
Anything that allows use of Adobe products only when necessary, and  
changing focus on W3C Standards and more reasonable people who are  
less greedy to do not charge large sums of money to a development  
community and then turn on them.  Even Microsoft is not doing with  
Adobe is doing.  I've always saw them as a deal with when  
necessary company and was pulling for them 100% until last week.   
I have no love for them at all anymore.  I see a dark future for  
them as they are growing lustful obviously with the possibilities  
of AIR.  Things

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?

Because of your cursing, I won't respond to any more questions on this  
thread.


However, take the we out of your statement telling me to F___ O___  
and calling my detailed responses schizophrenic paranoid delusional.


All others, attend the Webinar and try to protect your future by  
simply getting things straightened out.  If they change from what I've  
read, hurray for Adobe!


I'll leave it as a clear case of abuse in the form of expletives, and  
names.


- Goodbye, and please get some sleep or take your anger about your  
life out on someone else.




On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:

No, I won't get off your back, stop spamming the list with your  
insane whining. Ask Adobe followed by 4 pages of your paranoid  
schizophrenic delusional rambling is not answering the question.

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?


I'm simply responding to the F___ O___ statement.

There's no ego here.

Everyone contributes different things.

If FTD Enterprise 3.0 is not seen as a contribution with it's  
extensive toolset as an Eclipse FLEX compiler that works with the FLEX  
SDK than I'd say I disagree with you.


Check out the tool and you'll see that it provides a lot of  
[flexcoding] functionality that FLEX Builder does not.


Someone else asked about the Store, I made a reply, and he replied to  
me with a F___ O


I think any reasonable person looking at the sequence can see that he  
overstepped the bounds.


If it was said to you, I think you'd report it also.

I'm not trying to get him off the list.  After responding to his  
aggression I'll go back into my passive mode.


But I can't let a cowardly comment like that go unanswered.

-r

On Aug 31, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Guy Morton wrote:

Josh was perhaps ill-advised to put that in writing, but frankly, he  
just wrote what others are by now no doubt thinking.



Josh contributes MUCH more useful stuff to this list than you do  
Robert, so if you really have other people's interests at heart  
you'd not be trying to get him kicked off this list. The fact that  
you are suggests to me that your ego has outgrown your common sense.


Guy



On 01/09/2008, at 9:55 AM, Robert Thompson wrote:

Because of your cursing, I won't respond to any more questions on  
this thread.



However, take the we out of your statement telling me to F___  
O___ and calling my detailed responses schizophrenic paranoid  
delusional.


All others, attend the Webinar and try to protect your future by  
simply getting things straightened out.  If they change from what  
I've read, hurray for Adobe!


I'll leave it as a clear case of abuse in the form of expletives,  
and names.


- Goodbye, and please get some sleep or take your anger about your  
life out on someone else.




On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:

No, I won't get off your back, stop spamming the list with your  
insane whining. Ask Adobe followed by 4 pages of your paranoid  
schizophrenic delusional rambling is not answering the question.

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?


Guy,

It must be noted that it is not Common Sense to presume that of all  
the various levels of contribution here by individuals, that someone  
somehow has the right to tell me to F___ Off.


So please don't look at me as if I've no common sense...fact is,I do,  
enough to want FLEX to continue to grow, but have posted information  
that I'm sure Adobe would appreciate everyone having the chance to see  
the Webinar.


Also, if you knew me and what I've been through family-wise, and  
health-wise, a 10 year heart problem with my Dad triple by-pass, my  
sister having an Aneyrism that was fixed but then broke and she went  
into a comaif you knew me and what I've been through you would  
know that I do not have ego.


Any pridefulness I ever had was drowned; and I'm only telling you this  
because you don't know anything about me, and claim I have an ego.


You don't know my intentions for posting to [flexcoders] they are not  
for my benefit and I gain nothing by them, they are for the benefit of  
the [flexcoders] community to know that,


1. The FLEX SDK is now Open Source, and there is a great (and better)  
tool out there called (and it's a [flexcoders] tool) FTD Enterprise  
3.0 that greatly improves flexcoding productivity.


2. Contributions by 3rd parties to Open .SWF by the likes of  
Papervision3D provide an opportunity for them to become the new  
FutureWave of the new millennium.  That's the purpose of Open Source  
FLEX SDK, and Open .SWF, to encourage these 3rd parties to improve  
things.


3. My posting on the Battle of the Runtimes was a very newsworthy for  
any [flexcoder] and the clear pathway in these battles with efforts  
like OpenLaszlo.org, allows [flexcoders] to be able to program and  
publish in Open .SWF, SliverLight, JavaFx, and AJAX at the same time.   
Other formats are coming as well.


4. I have enough experience in Bayesian Probability to do the imaging  
coloring that Scene7 does.  Anyone who follows medical imaging at  
Cornell University knows these methods well.


What do 1-3 mean?  They mean, Understanding what's going on with the  
energy we put into our FLEX mxml and ActionScript code.


Please do not Let Information I post directly related to [flexcoding]  
for the benefit of the coders on this list, provide an excuse to try  
and tape someone's mouth shut.


Common Sense says the person cursing needs a break.

Ego, would remove anything in the way of understanding this obvious  
fact.


I did not spend the money I have on Adobe Products, and follow this  
list since the first FLEX Beta, to be treated this way, and I don't  
intend to let it pass.


I will make any future effort to post directly related to  
[flexcoders], and for the time being remain passive unless I am  
defamed or white-washed again by people not wanting others to know  
information that is relevant.


So it's a new beginning if you want it to be --- let's see after the  
Sept. 11th Webinar (and again, I never asked the question about  
licensing the Adobe Store; anyone who has purchased SDK's from  
Microsoft Universal Subscriptions, Macromedia, Adobe and other  
companies, understands the purpose of these Copyrights, and the idea  
that someone would have to license something they built on their own  
from the ground up that appears as a Flexstore is non-sense; or should  
we say, not common sense).


Peace until someone breaks it.

-r


On Aug 31, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Guy Morton wrote:

Josh was perhaps ill-advised to put that in writing, but frankly, he  
just wrote what others are by now no doubt thinking.



Josh contributes MUCH more useful stuff to this list than you do  
Robert, so if you really have other people's interests at heart  
you'd not be trying to get him kicked off this list. The fact that  
you are suggests to me that your ego has outgrown your common sense.


Guy



On 01/09/2008, at 9:55 AM, Robert Thompson wrote:

Because of your cursing, I won't respond to any more questions on  
this thread.



However, take the we out of your statement telling me to F___  
O___ and calling my detailed responses schizophrenic paranoid  
delusional.


All others, attend the Webinar and try to protect your future by  
simply getting things straightened out.  If they change from what  
I've read, hurray for Adobe!


I'll leave it as a clear case of abuse in the form of expletives,  
and names.


- Goodbye, and please get some sleep or take your anger about your  
life out on someone else.




On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:

No, I won't get off your back, stop spamming the list with your  
insane whining. Ask Adobe followed by 4 pages of your paranoid  
schizophrenic delusional rambling is not answering the question.

Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?


Sherif,

That's cool.  I want to note that this message did not come in until I  
posted a message just now, just to clear the air on the claim that I  
have no common sense in being a lessor contributor, and having a more  
often contributor have the right to curse me out.  So, I just wanted  
to make that hypocrisy clear to the one telling me that my ego is so  
big I don't have common sense.  Common Sense says, no matter who you  
are on this list, you don't tell people to F___ Off like Josh did.


Take it easy and have a good Labor Day.

I think your comment below is level headed and good, and here's where  
I stop.


Perhaps you can post that message again if I get white-washed by Josh  
for informing [flexcoders] of [flexcoder] developments in the Open  
FLEX SDK, or Open .SWF (re: FTD Enterprise 3.0 flexcoder tool, and  
OpenLaszlo.org Multi-runtime which supports [flexcoders] as well as  
others (like AJAX, JavaFx, Silverlight).


I hope the list gets filled with more people like you.

-r


On Aug 31, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Sherif Abdou wrote:



The internet is serious business :). Let's just all relax, I have  
yet to see an argument get won over the web so there is no point in  
keeping this going.

- Original Message -
From: Robert Thompson
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license?

I'm simply responding to the F___ O___ statement.


There's no ego here.

Everyone contributes different things.

If FTD Enterprise 3.0 is not seen as a contribution with it's  
extensive toolset as an Eclipse FLEX compiler that works with the  
FLEX SDK than I'd say I disagree with you.


Check out the tool and you'll see that it provides a lot of  
[flexcoding] functionality that FLEX Builder does not.


Someone else asked about the Store, I made a reply, and he replied  
to me with a F___ O


I think any reasonable person looking at the sequence can see that  
he overstepped the bounds.


If it was said to you, I think you'd report it also.

I'm not trying to get him off the list.  After responding to his  
aggression I'll go back into my passive mode.


But I can't let a cowardly comment like that go unanswered.

-r

On Aug 31, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Guy Morton wrote:

Josh was perhaps ill-advised to put that in writing, but frankly,  
he just wrote what others are by now no doubt thinking.



Josh contributes MUCH more useful stuff to this list than you do  
Robert, so if you really have other people's interests at heart  
you'd not be trying to get him kicked off this list. The fact that  
you are suggests to me that your ego has outgrown your common sense.


Guy



On 01/09/2008, at 9:55 AM, Robert Thompson wrote:

Because of your cursing, I won't respond to any more questions on  
this thread.



However, take the we out of your statement telling me to F___  
O___ and calling my detailed responses schizophrenic paranoid  
delusional.


All others, attend the Webinar and try to protect your future by  
simply getting things straightened out.  If they change from what  
I've read, hurray for Adobe!


I'll leave it as a clear case of abuse in the form of expletives,  
and names.


- Goodbye, and please get some sleep or take your anger about your  
life out on someone else.




On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Josh McDonald wrote:

No, I won't get off your back, stop spamming the list with your  
insane whining. Ask Adobe followed by 4 pages of your paranoid  
schizophrenic delusional rambling is not answering the question.

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C


I apologize to you Alex.

You seem level headed, and I agree, after reading some of the things I  
have, perhaps it was perceived as Fire and Brimstone.


One sure fact is, I've spent 3 years developing my own eCommerce  
Platform based on FLEX and an XML storage repository.


To see the press release about Adobe creating applications just like  
the ones I, and I'm sure others, had and have planned, seems to be to  
be not the safest technology base to be in.


I have had a good look at OpenLaszlo.org and in Version 4.0 it looks  
like a great way to integrate things similar to Papervision3D, or even  
a CUDO based plug-in for NVIDIA CUDO 'C' programming language based  
GPU (graphics processing language) usage.


Macromedia has never taken a step like I saw in the press release and  
Whitepaper and client-list as Adobe has with Scene7 that will effect  
FLEX developers more than the majority of them realize right now.


Believe it or not, I'm on the SilverLight soap-box now also.  I'm on  
it all...no more blind happy pappa dedication to Adobe, they've made  
their plans clear.


So that's just my apology and response to you and to anyone I've  
offended.  I'm not making any money or getting off on these posts, I  
am genuinely concerned.


-r

On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Alex Harui wrote:



Matt Chotin is away this week and has moved from development to  
product management and therefore must now choose his words  
carefully.  I’m still in development so maybe I can get away with  
more.




Robert, I don’t think we’ve met, and I haven’t gone back to see your  
past history with Flex, but I would like to ask  you to think twice  
about the way you are trying to get your message across before  
hitting send.  Sending high priority messages, and maybe not having  
all of your facts straight, discredits your message and invites  
others to get mad or poke fun or both.  I believe your message is  
that Adobe also sells solutions via Scene7 and Adobe Consulting and  
could purposefully or accidentally end up competing with  
independents like yourself, and that there are alternatives to Flex  
such as OpenLaszlo and Silverlight and Quicktime.  That part of your  
message is not really debatable.  I’ve worked for Lotus and IBM in  
my past and they also both sold development tools and had solutions  
teams and there is a fine line they have to walk.  Occasionally,  
they stepped on one of their independents.




It is unfortunate that you’ve been burned in the past, and you and  
others should definitely keep on the lookout for competition whether  
from Adobe or other independents.  However, the call to arms to have  
everyone attend a webinar did not warrant “red alert” status.   
Yellow maybe.  And based on your past, I’m surprised you would place  
so much weight on what you would hear in a webinar or in any public  
statement by Adobe.  This is a fast moving marketplace and Adobe can  
change its mind right after talking to you.  You’ll always have to  
read the tea leaves and be ready to change course yourself.




Finally, this forum is not an Adobe forum.  There are non-Adobe  
moderators.  As far as I’m concerned, you can get on your soapbox  
anytime you want, but if you want to reach a wide audience, fire and  
brimstone may not be the best approach.  If you just want to vent,  
please warn us up front.  And when you get on your soapbox,  
sometimes you just have a clever comeback line or just ignore the  
hecklers, including me.  Yelling back at them is a waste of your  
energy.  Take the high road, choose your technologies, remain nimble  
and good luck to you.




-Alex



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
On Behalf Of Robert Thompson

Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:50 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Cc: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight,  
AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C




If you would just read your own comments you'd realize I'm posting  
objectively and angering just the few of you.


I'm thankful to the posters the other day who said, essentially, if  
you're not interested don't read it.


If your thankful to get some information to get to the root of the  
matter, look into it.


I spent $1,777 on FLEX 3.0 with ILOG Elixr, and a lot more on Master  
Suite.


So don't tell me I don't have the right to question the money I've  
spent and the time invested, and cut my losses, and simply make  
others aware that there is a War of the RIAs going on and if you  
care to look into it, here's an article on it,


http://counternotions.com/2007/11/15/apple-runtime-answer-2/

I have asked questions about coding. But I'm also looking for the  
stability of the platform. I pushed very hard from someone to step  
up and create an OpenGL framework, and although I'm sure there are  
others, I was one of them, rooting for Adobe, and Macromedia  
developers like Matt Chotin and a few others

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C


Alex,

I appreciated your post.

It was helpful.

There have been others that have sent me a nice reply saying that it  
is good to keep any eye out, and for those that look into Scene7, they  
can make their own conclusions.


I appreciated your time and post and thanked you.

I wouldn't demand anything from you - and I don't think anyone else  
should either.


I would demand that Adobe not compete against FLEX users by combining  
the Scene7 platform with a FLEX based user interface that serves the  
masses, and will cause, at the very least, many potential clients to  
say No early on, and then never re-connect again whether they have  
success with Scene7 or not - and it's relevant because it's a FLEX  
based interface for corporations.


I'm for everyone at this point, except those who don't have ethics.

-r

On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Alex Harui wrote:



Didn’t take much time at all.  Wrote it while running unit tests.   
Please start a new thread about a scheduling framework and what is  
missing.  I doubt I will have time to do anything, but maybe someone  
else in the community can.




From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
On Behalf Of Vivian Richard

Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 8:14 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight,  
AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C




Wow Alex you definitely did spent a lot of time to write
this email. Your time is really precious for the whole user
group. I am sure you could come up with another excellent
flex example if you would code during this time!!! :-) Alex
please develop a good example of flex schedule framework.
It is been a while that flex schedule framework came out
and there are no good examples out there. Now we
are looking at you to show us the way. Please give us time
and develop ALEXIAN example of flex schedule frame work.
It is not a rude demand but a humble request. Cheers

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt Chotin is away this week and has moved from development to  
product
 management and therefore must now choose his words carefully. I'm  
still in

 development so maybe I can get away with more.



 Robert, I don't think we've met, and I haven't gone back to see  
your past
 history with Flex, but I would like to ask you to think twice  
about the way
 you are trying to get your message across before hitting send.  
Sending high

 priority messages, and maybe not having all of your facts straight,
 discredits your message and invites others to get mad or poke fun  
or both.
 I believe your message is that Adobe also sells solutions via  
Scene7 and
 Adobe Consulting and could purposefully or accidentally end up  
competing
 with independents like yourself, and that there are alternatives  
to Flex
 such as OpenLaszlo and Silverlight and Quicktime. That part of  
your message
 is not really debatable. I've worked for Lotus and IBM in my past  
and they
 also both sold development tools and had solutions teams and there  
is a fine

 line they have to walk. Occasionally, they stepped on one of their
 independents.



 It is unfortunate that you've been burned in the past, and you and  
others
 should definitely keep on the lookout for competition whether from  
Adobe or
 other independents. However, the call to arms to have everyone  
attend a
 webinar did not warrant red alert status. Yellow maybe. And  
based on
 your past, I'm surprised you would place so much weight on what  
you would
 hear in a webinar or in any public statement by Adobe. This is a  
fast
 moving marketplace and Adobe can change its mind right after  
talking to
 you. You'll always have to read the tea leaves and be ready to  
change

 course yourself.



 Finally, this forum is not an Adobe forum. There are non-Adobe  
moderators.
 As far as I'm concerned, you can get on your soapbox anytime you  
want, but
 if you want to reach a wide audience, fire and brimstone may not  
be the best
 approach. If you just want to vent, please warn us up front. And  
when you
 get on your soapbox, sometimes you just have a clever comeback  
line or just
 ignore the hecklers, including me. Yelling back at them is a waste  
of your
 energy. Take the high road, choose your technologies, remain  
nimble and

 good luck to you.



 -Alex



 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

 Behalf Of Robert Thompson
 Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:50 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex,  
Silverlight, AJAX,

 soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C



 If you would just read your own comments you'd realize I'm posting
 objectively and angering just the few of you.

 I'm thankful to the posters the other day who said, essentially,  
if you're

 not interested don't read it.

 If your thankful to get some information to get to the root

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C


I agree.  Let's see what happens.

Everyone here is an individual that can judge for themselves.

I myself and quite concerned.

I hope to be more informed than the Press Releases, White-paper and  
list of Clients already served by Adobe with a solution akin to the  
Hybrid or Flex Store and based on a high-performance platform.


Great.  But where does that FLEX mass-appeal product leave the  
developers.


If Scene7.com did it themselves great.  But Adobe has purchased them,  
the CEO of Adobe resigned about the same time, and now we have a new  
Adobe who is building a hybrid lightweight operating system in AIR  
that I have been very excited about in the past in my posts here, and  
in an OpenGL display framework (Papervision3D to the rescue), but now  
Adobe has just added a new dimension to all of thiscompetition in  
a very real sense against a developer, for example, bidding for a  
Small Running Shoe company.  Do they choose Adobe Scene7 or do they  
choose a developer?  Probably Adobe.


A ran 8:52 for the 3200m in college, All SEC twice, and NCAA  
Division-1, 3rd place championship team, and had a good running  
career, which is why I brought up the example of a running shoe store.


-r



On Aug 30, 2008, at 1:39 AM, Vivian Richard wrote:


As you said Alex, started a new thread and lets see what happens.

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Didn't take much time at all. Wrote it while running unit tests.  
Please
 start a new thread about a scheduling framework and what is  
missing. I

 doubt I will have time to do anything, but maybe someone else in the
 community can.



 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

 Behalf Of Vivian Richard
 Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 8:14 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex,  
Silverlight, AJAX,

 soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C



 Wow Alex you definitely did spent a lot of time to write
 this email. Your time is really precious for the whole user
 group. I am sure you could come up with another excellent
 flex example if you would code during this time!!! :-) Alex
 please develop a good example of flex schedule framework.
 It is been a while that flex schedule framework came out
 and there are no good examples out there. Now we
 are looking at you to show us the way. Please give us time
 and develop ALEXIAN example of flex schedule frame work.
 It is not a rude demand but a humble request. Cheers

 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
 Matt Chotin is away this week and has moved from development to  
product
 management and therefore must now choose his words carefully. I'm  
still in

 development so maybe I can get away with more.



 Robert, I don't think we've met, and I haven't gone back to see  
your past
 history with Flex, but I would like to ask you to think twice  
about the

 way
 you are trying to get your message across before hitting send.  
Sending

 high
 priority messages, and maybe not having all of your facts straight,
 discredits your message and invites others to get mad or poke fun  
or both.
 I believe your message is that Adobe also sells solutions via  
Scene7 and
 Adobe Consulting and could purposefully or accidentally end up  
competing
 with independents like yourself, and that there are alternatives  
to Flex

 such as OpenLaszlo and Silverlight and Quicktime. That part of your
 message
 is not really debatable. I've worked for Lotus and IBM in my past  
and they
 also both sold development tools and had solutions teams and  
there is a

 fine
 line they have to walk. Occasionally, they stepped on one of their
 independents.



 It is unfortunate that you've been burned in the past, and you  
and others
 should definitely keep on the lookout for competition whether  
from Adobe

 or
 other independents. However, the call to arms to have everyone  
attend a
 webinar did not warrant red alert status. Yellow maybe. And  
based on
 your past, I'm surprised you would place so much weight on what  
you would
 hear in a webinar or in any public statement by Adobe. This is a  
fast
 moving marketplace and Adobe can change its mind right after  
talking to
 you. You'll always have to read the tea leaves and be ready to  
change

 course yourself.



 Finally, this forum is not an Adobe forum. There are non-Adobe  
moderators.
 As far as I'm concerned, you can get on your soapbox anytime you  
want, but
 if you want to reach a wide audience, fire and brimstone may not  
be the

 best
 approach. If you just want to vent, please warn us up front. And  
when you
 get on your soapbox, sometimes you just have a clever comeback  
line or

 just
 ignore the hecklers, including me. Yelling back at them is a  
waste of your
 energy. Take the high road, choose your technologies, remain  
nimble and

 good luck to you.



 -Alex



 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

 know is, in my opinion, we we're all better off, at this step  
taken now, with Macromedia.  I've been developing in Flash since  
FutureWave came out with FutureSplash; it's how I got the first WRIF  
radio contract here in Detroit which got our company $2M in  
advertising equity (not me, the consulting company I was working for),  
and it's what got me many side jobs do to my name getting around that  
I develop fast and good.  That's no longer the case.  I have a seizure  
dis-order and only God knows how they came to be.


That's my 50-cent (no, not a fan :) but as a funny fact back in the  
80's I'd run a route that directly crossed Eminem's house (it was an 8  
mile route I ran during HS, College Summers, etc. until the place  
became overloaded with homes.


-r


On Aug 30, 2008, at 6:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is a different way to look at this. Right now, Flash is still  
just

and on-line technology in the view of most people. Even though AIR
does a lot of things, people still don't think it is very important.
Similar problem that Microsoft had with VB being considered only a
desktop tech and almost none taking it seriously as a server until
Microsoft built server based applications.

For me, Mass appeal of AIR is huge! It would mean that I can push Flex
as a Desktop as well as a Web application. It becomes the replacement
for VB and .net which then lets me solidify the build once/deploy
everywhere that we have been talking about since the early Java days.

I understand your concern that Adobe is doing similar things as you  
are

however, Micorsoft, IBM, Oracle and most others also make a lot of
applications that are similar to what their developers build also. The
difference is customization as well as usage. I think if Adobe can
produce good desktop and Web applications that we can showcase, we  
will
be able to move the market away from Microsoft and Sun and increase  
the

viability of using Flex in corporations.

For me, at my company we were choosing between Silverlight, JavaFX,  
Doja
and Flex. It was the fact that Microsoft had released Photoshop  
Express

that helped to sell Flex.

That is my .02.

Robert Thompson wrote:

 I agree. Let's see what happens.


 Everyone here is an individual that can judge for themselves.

 I myself and quite concerned.

 I hope to be more informed than the Press Releases, White-paper and
 list of Clients already served by Adobe with a solution akin to the
 Hybrid or Flex Store and based on a high-performance platform.

 Great. But where does that FLEX mass-appeal product leave the  
developers.


 If Scene7.com did it themselves great. But Adobe has purchased them,
 the CEO of Adobe resigned about the same time, and now we have a new
 Adobe who is building a hybrid lightweight operating system in AIR
 that I have been very excited about in the past in my posts here,  
and
 in an OpenGL display framework (Papervision3D to the rescue), but  
now
 Adobe has just added a new dimension to all of thiscompetition  
in

 a very real sense against a developer, for example, bidding for a
 Small Running Shoe company. Do they choose Adobe Scene7 or do they
 choose a developer? Probably Adobe.

 A ran 8:52 for the 3200m in college, All SEC twice, and NCAA
 Division-1, 3rd place championship team, and had a good running
 career, which is why I brought up the example of a running shoe  
store.


 -r

 **
 * *

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C


Actually the rumor was and may still be that Apple will buy Adobe.

Now that would be good news to me.

Steven Jobs is the one figure I've been following since I was a kid.

Out of all the CEO's from the old Borland, to Microsoft, to Zinc (when  
AOL was a little DOS app.), he seems to be the only one to maintain a  
calm integrity and come out on top.


You can see it when he gives a speech.

Steve Ballmer when to school here in my home state of Michigan and  
Country Day Prep academy (unfortunately with my attorney when to  
school with him at the same time in my thing which is described not  
by me but by someone writing about the Federal Circuit of appeals;  
they went to school together in '72 '74) and Ballmer is still on the  
board.


Can you ever imagine the cool and calm Jobs doing a dance like Steve  
Ballmer did - the contrast is amazing to anyone who's Scene7 or more  
Jobs' speeches.


In any event, I put Apple over every other company -- that's just me  
-- may not be others, so it's all good, don't flame me.


But I've spent nearly $5,000 on Adobe software and I'd like to return  
every bit of it if this chosen date by them of Sept. 11th Webinar  
proves to be what I think it is.


I'm sure they're listening and may put a spin on it, but please, for  
your own sakes, do not trust any Corporations words, trust only the  
Actions they take.  Take it from a 40 year old telling a 20-25 year  
old, please use your talents wisely and be careful who you dedicate  
yourself too.  Ultimately, you should dedicate yourself to you and  
your family, if you have one, and take the route that will keep your  
investment in time and money safe.  If your a 9-5'er, and I know a lot  
of them in this Big3 area, there are different kinds of risks, that  
have a lot less to do with Flex (usually those are the people that had  
bosses shell out the $20,000 or so, I forget the exact price, for FLEX  
1.0).


-r

On Aug 30, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Paul Andrews wrote:


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight,  
AJAX,

soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

 There is a different way to look at this. Right now, Flash is  
still just

 and on-line technology in the view of most people. Even though AIR
 does a lot of things, people still don't think it is very important.
 Similar problem that Microsoft had with VB being considered only a
 desktop tech and almost none taking it seriously as a server until
 Microsoft built server based applications.

 For me, Mass appeal of AIR is huge! It would mean that I can push  
Flex
 as a Desktop as well as a Web application. It becomes the  
replacement

 for VB and .net which then lets me solidify the build once/deploy
 everywhere that we have been talking about since the early Java  
days.


 I understand your concern that Adobe is doing similar things as  
you are

 however, Micorsoft, IBM, Oracle and most others also make a lot of
 applications that are similar to what their developers build also.  
The

 difference is customization as well as usage. I think if Adobe can
 produce good desktop and Web applications that we can showcase, we  
will
 be able to move the market away from Microsoft and Sun and  
increase the

 viability of using Flex in corporations.

 For me, at my company we were choosing between Silverlight,  
JavaFX, Doja
 and Flex. It was the fact that Microsoft had released Photoshop  
Express

 that helped to sell Flex.

Scary. Microsoft just bought Adobe. Shriek!

The development world is big and Adobe consulting doesn't come  
cheap, so I
think there's those that can afford the cream of the crop no matter  
what the
cost and then there's the rest of the world that have budgets, so  
there's

always going to be room for everyone.

Paul

 That is my .02.


 Robert Thompson wrote:

 I agree. Let's see what happens.


 Everyone here is an individual that can judge for themselves.

 I myself and quite concerned.

 I hope to be more informed than the Press Releases, White-paper and
 list of Clients already served by Adobe with a solution akin to the
 Hybrid or Flex Store and based on a high-performance platform.

 Great. But where does that FLEX mass-appeal product leave the
 developers.

 If Scene7.com did it themselves great. But Adobe has purchased  
them,
 the CEO of Adobe resigned about the same time, and now we have a  
new

 Adobe who is building a hybrid lightweight operating system in AIR
 that I have been very excited about in the past in my posts here,  
and
 in an OpenGL display framework (Papervision3D to the rescue), but  
now
 Adobe has just added a new dimension to all of  
thiscompetition in

 a very real sense against a developer, for example, bidding for a
 Small Running Shoe company. Do they choose Adobe Scene7 or do they
 choose a developer? Probably Adobe.

 A ran 8:52

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

I agree, I doubt it would happen, and MS isn't very successful at  
buying out large companies due to perceived risk of getting into a  
Sherman Act type of thing again.


I'd rather Apple not also, I'm abandoning Adobe unless I hear  
something different.


If I can't get my money back from purchases, I'll just let it go, and  
do Audio Unit and NVIDIA CUDO programming on Mac OS X.  I have an 8- 
core 3.4, 32GB, 4 bay 300GBx15krpm RAID0, dual 30 with NVIDIA 5500.


The things that I'm working on as an accepted CUDO developer are  
amazing.


I hope to encourage Papervision3D to add support for CUDO and to go  
out on their own and develop their own plug-in.


NOW is the perfect TIME for Papervision3D to do this, not later.

I'd be a happy camper then and hide 9 of my fingers for a second a  
send the photoship to Ablwme Corp. whom just a week ago I continiued  
to lovenot after what I've discovered in the past few days.


-r


On Aug 30, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Sherif Abdou wrote:



Apple will not buy Adobe, Microsoft would not let it without a fight  
and $22.7 billion is a big chunk of change and that's just the  
market cap now add a premium and they are looking at $30billion,  
that's amost 20% of Apple's market cap. Also, I really don't want  
them to ruin everything, i dont wana end up saying IFlash , IFlex,  
IPhotoshop :)

- Original Message -
From: Robert Thompson
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight,  
AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C


Actually the rumor was and may still be that Apple will buy Adobe.


Now that would be good news to me.

Steven Jobs is the one figure I've been following since I was a kid.

Out of all the CEO's from the old Borland, to Microsoft, to Zinc  
(when AOL was a little DOS app.), he seems to be the only one to  
maintain a calm integrity and come out on top.


You can see it when he gives a speech.

Steve Ballmer when to school here in my home state of Michigan and  
Country Day Prep academy (unfortunately with my attorney when to  
school with him at the same time in my thing which is described  
not by me but by someone writing about the Federal Circuit of  
appeals; they went to school together in '72 '74) and Ballmer is  
still on the board.


Can you ever imagine the cool and calm Jobs doing a dance like Steve  
Ballmer did - the contrast is amazing to anyone who's Scene7 or more  
Jobs' speeches.


In any event, I put Apple over every other company -- that's just me  
-- may not be others, so it's all good, don't flame me.


But I've spent nearly $5,000 on Adobe software and I'd like to  
return every bit of it if this chosen date by them of Sept. 11th  
Webinar proves to be what I think it is.


I'm sure they're listening and may put a spin on it, but please, for  
your own sakes, do not trust any Corporations words, trust only the  
Actions they take.  Take it from a 40 year old telling a 20-25 year  
old, please use your talents wisely and be careful who you dedicate  
yourself too.  Ultimately, you should dedicate yourself to you and  
your family, if you have one, and take the route that will keep your  
investment in time and money safe.  If your a 9-5'er, and I know a  
lot of them in this Big3 area, there are different kinds of risks,  
that have a lot less to do with Flex (usually those are the people  
that had bosses shell out the $20,000 or so, I forget the exact  
price, for FLEX 1.0).


-r

On Aug 30, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Paul Andrews wrote:


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex,  
Silverlight, AJAX,

soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

 There is a different way to look at this. Right now, Flash is  
still just
 and on-line technology in the view of most people. Even though  
AIR
 does a lot of things, people still don't think it is very  
important.

 Similar problem that Microsoft had with VB being considered only a
 desktop tech and almost none taking it seriously as a server until
 Microsoft built server based applications.

 For me, Mass appeal of AIR is huge! It would mean that I can push  
Flex
 as a Desktop as well as a Web application. It becomes the  
replacement

 for VB and .net which then lets me solidify the build once/deploy
 everywhere that we have been talking about since the early Java  
days.


 I understand your concern that Adobe is doing similar things as  
you are

 however, Micorsoft, IBM, Oracle and most others also make a lot of
 applications that are similar to what their developers build  
also. The

 difference is customization as well as usage. I think if Adobe can
 produce good desktop and Web applications that we can showcase,  
we will
 be able to move the market away from Microsoft and Sun and  
increase the

 viability of using Flex

[flexcoders] Re:FlexMDI Window help wanted

2008-08-29 Thread Robert Mangold

Greetings,
   I am not on my development machine at the moment to verify my memory, but I 
recall having a similar problem when using an MDIWindow as a drop target.  When 
dropped, the widget (a Datagrid in my case) would stubbornly snap to the upper 
left corner of the MDIWindow.  My solution was to place a Canvas inside the 
MDICanvas, which was inside the MDIWindow.  There might be a nicer way to do 
it, but it worked and I was in a time crunch.
   In looking at your code, you are making your components, e.g. DataGridView, 
children of the MDIWindow.  Try adding them as children of the Canvas and 
follow the guidelines above.
   A quick shout out to the FlexMDI guys.  Thanks for the great library!

Regards,

RobM

Re: [flexcoders] Re: end/ Q: What is Flexcoders? A: All of us in this together who have purchased FLEX


I agree, put it to rest for this list.
acquisition
However, in the past 24 hours I've discovered information about the  
original acquisition of Scene7 and the future plans.  It appears now  
they are inquiring of my corporate papers, though I'm not sure from  
what's floating around.


I've nothing on my site except a commentary about this, for those who  
want to be wise about where they spend their time and money in the  
future, they' d be better with the W3C's Semantic Web 3.0


for any more see,

www.activecommunity.com

This is too much to bear, this, what appears to be, pretty big  
betrayal.  Go to Scene7.com and look at their client list and examine  
how the program works.


See for yourself.

That's my last word on the subject on this list; I'll leave the rest  
for my site.  This development is quite disturbing to me and to those  
in companies in the Big-3 area that I get my contracts in, who have  
spent tens of thousands of dollars on FLEX.


-r

On Aug 28, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Tim Hoff wrote:



Cool Robert,

Hopefully, we can just put this to rest.

Thanks,
-TH

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I think the simple answer is we're all in this together and it's  
good

 to keep an eye out for each other.

 I haven't posted on the list for a very long time and have just been
 watching and examining Papervision3D which I love.

 So I post a concern, and a legitimate one, with no prior thread.  
Just

 an informative request for all to attend the Webinar.

 I'm sure Adobe will appreciate all [flexcoders] who are extremely
 relevent, to participate in the Webinar at www.Scene7.com on  
Thursday

 Sept. 11th.

 I'm also sure that it's in our best interest as [flexcoders], more
 appropriately ActionScript 3.0 coders who usually program in FLEX  
and

 Flash, to ask questions in our best interest.

 I like everyone here and have no qualms with anyone. I just don't
 like to be diss'ed when trying to lookout for the younger generation
 having seen some bad things in these patterns.

 -- end --

Re: [flexcoders] LMBFAO


Do you mean, LMBFAO ???

On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Tim Hoff wrote:


LMAO

[flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

 
OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Flash, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime

First of all to the gentlemen suggesting I'm slamming the list.  I am not and I 
take offense at that.  Don't accuse me when I am responding to someone else.  I 
posted only 2 original posts and they were in the best interest of the 
[flexcoders] community, some agreed, some did not.  Do not accuse me of 
spamming unless you are from Adobe and moderating this list.

Second of all, I've been continuing to research this, and have a simple answer 
to the Runtime Wars that are very real and goign on and are a part of the 
acquisition of Scene7 which DIRECTLY RELATES TO FLEXCODERS.  Don't question, 
Mr. Person who accuses me of spamming, my motives when I'm trying to get to the 
bottom of this.

Thirdly,  OpenLazlo.org has also scene the shifting going on in the industry 
between Silverlight and Flex/Swf, Quicktime SDK, and others and has begun and 
open source solution. So there you have it.  Do not accuse me and get 
aggressive without doing your own research.

I'm in this to better our investments in time and money (for those who care 
about it).  If you continue to defame me with an accusation of Spamming you 
better back it up with an Original Posting by me that is off topic.  I am not 
Spamming, and if you feel I have, show me, and If it's true I will stop it.  
But I intend to get to the bottom of this legally or otherwise.

EVERYONE BE AN INDIVIDUAL: Don't let anyone sucker you into thinking for you.  
Do your own research and look to OpenLaszlo.org which appears to be a noble 
effort recognizing the struggles going on in Adobe with the resignation of the 
CEO last Fall.

[flexcoders] should be aware that they have multiple options and One blasted 
person trying to tape my mouth shut by claiming I'm spamming had better be from 
Adobe and not just another developer trying to cut-down free speech that IS ON 
TOPIC WITH THE FUTURE of our Investment in Time and Money.  Do any of us want 
to waste 4 years only to find out it was for not?

If you claim I'm spamming the list by providing a URL, my URL earlier posted 
was so I could present the research I'm doing w/o posting to this group and 
offending people like you who just get in the way.

I like the earlier posting of the individual lady who said, let it live, or 
feed it.  The comments thereafter were uneeded and more contrary to the 
policies of polite procedure of this group than trying to inform. others.  I've 
been there, I've been screwed by a large company who did a very similar thing 
that is happening now; so if you don't want to listen, skip the posting and 
stop accusing me.

-r

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

I've ready half a dozen articles on OpenLaszlo.org and I like it.

It's another option.

-r

 
On Friday, August 29, 2008, at 02:59PM, Doug McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
God forgive me, for I have sinned. I am responding to a thread I know
I absolutely should not have replied to. Sorry for encouraging the
ranting, I just couldn't not reply when this amazing email came into
my inbox. Robert, I'll address each paragraph one at a time and tell
you exactly why this message, as well as the ones you have been
sending in the last day or so, are in fact complete spam and worthy of
the comments you have received.

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Flash, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime

Simply incorrect. OpenLaszlo has been around for years and has always
targeted both the Flash runtime and AJAX. That's what it does and
that's what it has always done. You write an app and you can target
Flash or DHTML. There it no support for Silverlight, there is no
support for Flex (what woudl that even mean?), I don't know what you
are suggesting when you claim they support Quicktime but that
doesn't even make sense. If you are going to make wild claims please
back them up with references so we can verify. I also want to point
out that this sentence and only one other short sentence later in this
message (also completely factually incorrect) are the only two parts
of this email that have anything at all to do with the subject of this
thread.

 First of all to the gentlemen suggesting I'm slamming the list. I am not and 
 I take offense at that. Don't accuse me when I am responding to someone 
 else. I posted only 2 original posts and they were in the best interest of 
 the [flexcoders] community, some agreed, some did not. Do not accuse me of 
 spamming unless you are from Adobe and moderating this list.

This has nothing to do with the topic you posted. If you have a gripe
about someone's reply then reply to that. By creating a new thread and
filling it with completely unrelated paragraphs like this you are in
fact spamming the list.

 Second of all, I've been continuing to research this, and have a simple 
 answer to the Runtime Wars that are very real and goign on and are a part 
 of the acquisition of Scene7 which DIRECTLY RELATES TO FLEXCODERS. Don't 
 question, Mr. Person who accuses me of spamming, my motives when I'm trying 
 to get to the bottom of this.

Completely unrelated to the subject you posted.

 Thirdly, OpenLazlo.org has also scene the shifting going on in the industry 
 between Silverlight and Flex/Swf, Quicktime SDK, and others and has begun 
 and open source solution. So there you have it. Do not accuse me and get 
 aggressive without doing your own research.

Again, OpenLazlo has been around for years, I assume most people on
this list know about it. And even if not this post does not provide
any new information whatsoever, and instead only provides misleading
and factual incorrect information.

 I'm in this to better our investments in time and money (for those who care 
 about it). If you continue to defame me with an accusation of Spamming you 
 better back it up with an Original Posting by me that is off topic. I am not 
 Spamming, and if you feel I have, show me, and If it's true I will stop it. 
 But I intend to get to the bottom of this legally or otherwise.

Fine, cheers, have fun. But this post does not have any information
regarding the topic you posted, so please keep the personal monologues
under wraps unless you are talking about something. You want an
original posting that is off-topic? THIS ONE.

 EVERYONE BE AN INDIVIDUAL: Don't let anyone sucker you into thinking for 
 you. Do your own research and look to OpenLaszlo.org which appears to be a 
 noble effort recognizing the struggles going on in Adobe with the 
 resignation of the CEO last Fall.

Again, OpenLazlo is not new. It has nothing to do with the Adobe CEO
at all. Do your own research before spamming with incorrect
information please.

 [flexcoders] should be aware that they have multiple options and One blasted 
 person trying to tape my mouth shut by claiming I'm spamming had better be 
 from Adobe and not just another developer trying to cut-down free speech 
 that IS ON TOPIC WITH THE FUTURE of our Investment in Time and Money. Do any 
 of us want to waste 4 years only to find out it was for not?

I don't think anyone is denying there are multiple options, we're just
saying that you going off on long rants without any information of
substance is getting annoying.

 If you claim I'm spamming the list by providing a URL, my URL earlier posted 
 was so I could present the research I'm doing w/o posting to this group and 
 offending people like you who just get in the way.

No, we're claiming you're spamming the list by messages exactly like these.

 I like the earlier posting of the individual lady who said, let it live, or 
 feed it. The comments

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

If you would just read your own comments you'd realize I'm posting objectively 
and angering just the few of you.

I'm thankful to the posters the other day who said, essentially, if you're not 
interested don't read it.

If your thankful to get some information to get to the root of the matter, look 
into it.

I spent $1,777 on FLEX 3.0 with ILOG Elixr, and a lot more on Master Suite.

So don't tell me I don't have the right to question the money I've spent and 
the time invested, and cut my losses, and simply make others aware that there 
is a War of the RIAs going on and if you care to look into it, here's an 
article on it,

http://counternotions.com/2007/11/15/apple-runtime-answer-2/

I have asked questions about coding.  But I'm also looking for the stability of 
the platform.  I pushed very hard from someone to step up and create an OpenGL 
framework, and although I'm sure there are others, I was one of them, rooting 
for Adobe, and Macromedia developers like Matt Chotin and a few others 
appreciated it.

Most of these responses are just anger letting outit's the nature of the 
game when posting a controversial warning about the coding your doing and it's 
value 2 years from now when nearly everything can be done (I estimate 80% of 
what is commonly done in eCommerce, will be done using Scene7.com, not a FLEX 
developer earning a living).

Fyi, I made no claim that OpenLaszlo.org is a new effort, it's in version 4, 
but what is happening in version 4i is newer.

Throw the chip on your shoulder at someone else; I'm trying to warn some of 
those out there that may blindly make the same mistakes I made in my 20's by 
blindly trusting Microsoft and believing being chosen for an event to showcase 
my product was a good thing, an endorsement.  It wasn't.  It was a precursor 
for a patent.

Try to take the emotions out of this with the words like Crap and such.

-r
 
On Friday, August 29, 2008, at 03:01PM, Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Doug,

I take your hand and walk through fiery hell in hopes the Mr. Person might
be exorcised.

Mike

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Doug McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   God forgive me, for I have sinned. I am responding to a thread I know
 I absolutely should not have replied to. Sorry for encouraging the
 ranting, I just couldn't not reply when this amazing email came into
 my inbox. Robert, I'll address each paragraph one at a time and tell
 you exactly why this message, as well as the ones you have been
 sending in the last day or so, are in fact complete spam and worthy of
 the comments you have received.


 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Robert Thompson [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]plasmaphonic%40mac.com
 wrote:
 
  OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Flash, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime

 Simply incorrect. OpenLaszlo has been around for years and has always
 targeted both the Flash runtime and AJAX. That's what it does and
 that's what it has always done. You write an app and you can target
 Flash or DHTML. There it no support for Silverlight, there is no
 support for Flex (what woudl that even mean?), I don't know what you
 are suggesting when you claim they support Quicktime but that
 doesn't even make sense. If you are going to make wild claims please
 back them up with references so we can verify. I also want to point
 out that this sentence and only one other short sentence later in this
 message (also completely factually incorrect) are the only two parts
 of this email that have anything at all to do with the subject of this
 thread.

  First of all to the gentlemen suggesting I'm slamming the list. I am not
 and I take offense at that. Don't accuse me when I am responding to someone
 else. I posted only 2 original posts and they were in the best interest of
 the [flexcoders] community, some agreed, some did not. Do not accuse me of
 spamming unless you are from Adobe and moderating this list.

 This has nothing to do with the topic you posted. If you have a gripe
 about someone's reply then reply to that. By creating a new thread and
 filling it with completely unrelated paragraphs like this you are in
 fact spamming the list.

  Second of all, I've been continuing to research this, and have a simple
 answer to the Runtime Wars that are very real and goign on and are a part
 of the acquisition of Scene7 which DIRECTLY RELATES TO FLEXCODERS. Don't
 question, Mr. Person who accuses me of spamming, my motives when I'm trying
 to get to the bottom of this.

 Completely unrelated to the subject you posted.

  Thirdly, OpenLazlo.org has also scene the shifting going on in the
 industry between Silverlight and Flex/Swf, Quicktime SDK, and others and has
 begun and open source solution. So there you have it. Do not accuse me and
 get aggressive without doing your own research.

 Again, OpenLazlo has been around for years, I assume most people on
 this list know about it. And even if not this post does not provide
 any new information whatsoever

Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight, AJAX, soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C


Stop making personal comments, okay.

Stop painting me black...it IS about options.  You'll find out if you  
take the blinders off.


Just leave it alone and stop making it personal.

On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Paul Andrews wrote:


- Original Message -
From: Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Cc: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] OpenLaszlo.org supports Flex, Silverlight,  
AJAX,

soon Quicktime, and also DHTML and W3C

 I've ready half a dozen articles on OpenLaszlo.org and I like it.

 It's another option.

 -r

For goodness sake, this is flexcoders not 'the other options' list.

We all know you're not happy with Adobe. Let it be, we can work  
things out
for ourselves. Enjoy OpenLaszlo - go and tell them they've got it  
right and

forget flexcoders.

Re: [flexcoders] Relevant and Helpful :: Scene7.com Webinar

Stopping making personal commentsI invited people to the Webinar  
to see for themselves and ask some questions to clear the air.


If you're interested in personal comments and laughing while you self  
admittedly smoke weed,


You said it, I'm a ho

So there's nobody to blame but yourself, not your troll, or do they  
call those pimps.


I don't do drugs...and if you want some, I hope the DEA has someone on  
this list.


j'azz man musician you are the former not the latter.

Lay it to rest, or get a lay, or go smoke or whatever it is you said  
you do Mr. I'mHo who still uses aint, which is ain't, which you still  
use apparently from the loss of brain cells from your self admitted  
smoking.


On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:53 PM, Jon Bradley wrote:



On Aug 27, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Robert Thompson wrote:

Will they go too far?  Microsoft did.  Do you own research on that  
if you wondered what happened in the 90's.  There's plenty of it.   
The case is posted, Discovery, Judgement.


I want some of what you're smoking. :P

I don't see how this is relevant to anything really. Aint going to  
affect 99.9% of us and this whole thread is just trolling imho.


- j

[flexcoders] Results of Direct Phone Call to Scene7.com

First of all, this is very relevant to the FLEX coders development  
community.


I have just talked some another person at Scene7.com and the  
indication I seemed to have gotten is that there will be a resulting  
complication in the area of eCommerce and Product Catalog Development  
to the FLEX community.


They are still working on it.  But it all comes down to this.

The Webinar should be attended by every FLEX developer out there.

They should ask important questions such as: Will Adobe be servicing  
clients in Scene7.com using FLEX 3.0 technology, and could the  
possibility arise that an Adobe representative from Scene7.com bid  
directly against a Freelance, or Small Business Owner, who has spent a  
lot of development money on their products.


For those out there who distaste my look into Scene7.com and it's  
effects on the FLEX and Flash CS3 community (a few mongrels) I'd ask  
that you please leave me alone and just let the others listen.


- None of us would be here today w/o the timely innovation of  
FutureWave's FutureSplash control


- It was extremely fast in installation and provided dramatic vector  
results at a time when ActiveX had serious security problems


- None of us would be here today if it was not for Macromedia's timely  
acquisition of FutureWave's FutureSplash control, renamed FlashPlayer


- Macromedia always kept their honor when it came to developers who  
spent their hard earned money on development tools


- Macromedia always recognized the marketing power of tens of  
thousands of strands of reaching out of the Flash brand via  
developers (not even any money was spent on this; money was in fact  
earned; Macromedia recognized and respected this).


- Adobe has now acquired Macromedia, and I have been excited about  
Adobe for a long time since then.  And for the gentlemen that said I  
never add anything to this group, it was me who was shouting Watch  
out for SilverLight it's Microsoft's 2nd attempt at killing Flash  
Player - Please Adobe get an OpenGL solution in the works so DirectX  
does not out-power flash


- However it happened we now have the GREAT Papervision3D.org, who  
just did it.


- But now Scene7.com comes along.  And it has far reaching  
implications to the FLEX and Flash development community who have  
spent a heck of a lot of money for development tools.


- It is Adobe's right (to an extent) to use the free market place and  
bid or compete against Small Business owners, or other innovators more  
interested in contracts than the internal Corporate IT system.


- However, it is also our right to ask serious questions about our  
future ability to bid in large contracts


- And it is also right, to cut our losses and move towards more stable  
areas of development, and not naively market for a company that may  
potentially in the long run be competing against it's own developers  
(don't fool yourself into thinking it's not possible; I guess we'll  
all find out on Sept. 11th, Thursday, in the Webinar if the right  
questions are asked).


I myself and taking a serious look at more SourceForge efforts,  
companies that may have a core mission not to leverage the developer  
community in order to eventually use that momentum built up over many  
years, for it's own profit (whatever company that may be).


I do know one thing,  There's a few CEO's out there who respect  
developers; but they are few and far between.  Gates is a BASIC  
programmer telling Jobs to learn how to program, while Jobs is  
programming at the Mach OS level (hypocrisy).


FutureWave and Macromedia were Very Honorable and I really am starting  
to wish Macromedia remained intact.


The upcoming Webinar is far less about the new PDF SDK, and more about  
a simple catalog that is a pre-cursor to a eCommerce Platform.


Perhaps it's time to start hosting with MacPro servers and looking  
more into QuickTime, if the worst is found to be true.


We will all find out.  Please don't ruin your future by trusting a  
large Corporation.  I've read things in confidence that few have, and  
it's very disturbing.


-r

Re: [flexcoders] Results of Direct Phone Call to Scene7.com

I agree on the iPhone issue, I'd never go with ATT either because  
they are the ultimate Greed.


But the iPhone pricing thing I think was a mistake.

Apple does not personify greed at all to me -- Quality.  I have both  
MacPro and a DELL, develop in XCode and Vista for FLEX and Flash CS3.


The quality of Apple is far superior..but I'll leave it at that.

But I do agree they should not have picked ATT as a carrier for phone  
service.  The 80's and 90's were full of ramped up phone bills.


I contracted a VoIP that involved the Kennedy Space center, and almost  
made it into the VoIP arena, but was a little too late.


-r


On Aug 28, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Ralf Bokelberg wrote:

 Perhaps it's time to start hosting with MacPro servers and looking  
more into

 QuickTime, if the worst is found to be true.

Hm. I always found to be Apple the personified greed. For example
IPhone developers are not even allowed to talk to each other. This is
just plain ridicilous, as is your whole claim. I'd check the tap,
maybe somebody put some paranoia drug into it?

Cheers,
Ralf.

Re: [flexcoders] Thanks