[flexcoders] Problem with using LocalConnection.domain on domain with special characters
I'm using LocalConnection.domain to get the current domain - however I ran into a problem when the domain name has special characters (in my case moteklær.no http://xn--moteklr-rxa.no).. In IE it will return moteklær.no http://xn--moteklr-rxa.no In Firefox it will return moteklÁ|r.no In Chrome it will return xn--moteklr--j9a.no What I need is what IE returns .. bjornbjorn -- http://twitter.com/bjornbjorn
[flexcoders] Re: Combobox like on http://www.bombaysapphire.com
I'd say its custom. Really nice though. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, yonghan79 yongha...@... wrote: Hi all,i wonder does anyone ever before create combobox like the one here bombaysapphire.com born detail combobox http://www.bombaysapphire.com .What did the creator used?Thanks a lot..
[flexcoders] Re: Bitmap downsampling
Can't believe this cost me 9 hours of brain time and the answer was in a
constant all along.
StageQuality.BEST
Where's the documentation for this
No-one is using, not even Aviary.
thanks anyway Timmaay..
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tim Rowe tim.r...@... wrote:
Bjorn,
Does the current method you're using appear to have any anti-aliasing at all?
In the past, resizing with Image using img.resize((height, width),
Image.ANTIALIAS) (where img is mx.controls.Image) has worked - I'm sure
there'd be a similar method for BitmapData. Of course, if you're not
specifying antialiasing and the method call doesn't assume it by default,
then yeah, you're going to get horrible image quality on downsize as a
typical algorithm will pick nearest-neighbor to the new target pixel.
--Tim
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2009 2:34 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Bitmap downsampling
Hi,
I'm having a lot of trouble with down-sampling a bitmapData.
I tried the smoothing option first
public function produceResizedBitmapData(image:DisplayObject,
transform:Matrix):BitmapData
{
var temp:BitmapData = new BitmapData(image.width, image.height, true,
0x00FF);
temp.draw(image);
var clone:BitmapData = new BitmapData(image.width*transform.a,
image.height*transform.d, true, 0x00FF);
clone.draw(temp, transform, null, null, null, true);
temp.dispose();
return clone;
}
except the quality was poor, once the image was of a certain size.
For example scaling a 2500px image down to 200px.
I've tried using clevrLib plus a pixelBender bilinear sampler but no go.
I've noticed it works in picnik so it must be possible.
Can anyone push me in the right direction.
[flexcoders] Bitmap downsampling
Hi,
I'm having a lot of trouble with down-sampling a bitmapData.
I tried the smoothing option first
public function produceResizedBitmapData(image:DisplayObject,
transform:Matrix):BitmapData
{
var temp:BitmapData = new BitmapData(image.width, image.height, true,
0x00FF);
temp.draw(image);
var clone:BitmapData = new BitmapData(image.width*transform.a,
image.height*transform.d, true, 0x00FF);
clone.draw(temp, transform, null, null, null, true);
temp.dispose();
return clone;
}
except the quality was poor, once the image was of a certain size.
For example scaling a 2500px image down to 200px.
I've tried using clevrLib plus a pixelBender bilinear sampler but no go.
I've noticed it works in picnik so it must be possible.
Can anyone push me in the right direction.
[flexcoders] Is SDK 3.4.0 a stable release?
Its bundled in the 4 beta but i cant find any documentation or a changes list for it.
[flexcoders] Re: GoogleMat� Sample Application
Would be nice with flex 4 and catalyst : ) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hoff timh...@... wrote: Hi all, For any of you interested in learning more about the Mat� framework, I've created a sample http://timothyhoff.com/blog/ that's publically available. It's a simple AIR application, but hopefully those that want to learn more about MVC, will get some benefit out of it; especially those that engaged in the recent discussions concerning VO's. Cheers, -TH
[flexcoders] Re: GoogleMat� Sample Application
Yeah that's pretty cool. Cant wait to give catalyst a crack. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hoff timh...@... wrote: Coming, but the only thing that will be different will be the view code. :) -TH --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailinglists@ wrote: Would be nice with flex 4 and catalyst : ) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tim Hoff TimHoff@ wrote: Hi all, For any of you interested in learning more about the Mat� framework, I've created a sample http://timothyhoff.com/blog/ that's publically available. It's a simple AIR application, but hopefully those that want to learn more about MVC, will get some benefit out of it; especially those that engaged in the recent discussions concerning VO's. Cheers, -TH
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Framework Cache Statistics
good question. I would also like to know --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Nayan Savla nayansa...@... wrote: Hi All, I am just wondering if there is some data on the percentage of Flash players which would already have a the flex framework cache. Our application without the cache is 456Kb and when i use framework caching its 256Kb and the swz file is around 500kb. In this scenario if the user doesn't already have the framework cached, it won't make any sense to use framework caching. We don't have a high percentage of returning users yet. So if there is any data which gives an idea about the percentage of Flash players out there with the Flex framework cache, it will be really helpful. Thank you Nayan
[flexcoders] Re: Are you using the Marshall Plan?
Our current Modules are all in sdk 3.3 So far all is good. We hope that if we decide to introduce modules later down the track the were solely built using sdk 4+ that this would not be painful. We hope that we will not have to use the 4+ sdk to compile our 3.3 modules against in this scenario? Have I been to vague? even if this is not the issue you were directly referring to? Thanks, Bjorn --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin mcho...@... wrote: I wouldn't say there's an exact methodology. We have some elements of agile (like iterations, unit tests, ability to respond to feedback and adjust), but as a platform we also need to make sure we have specifications, assigned Quality Engineers, schedules, etc. So if you're looking for we use scrum you won't get that, it's a combination of practices necessary for a team that works with a large number of stakeholders. Matt On 5/6/09 12:10 PM, Vivian Richard kanps...@... wrote: Matt just a question regarding your software development process- what exact methodology do you guys(you flex team) follow to develop the Flex platform? On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Matt Chotin mcho...@... mailto:mchotin%40adobe.com wrote: Are you building apps in a modular fashion where those modules need to support different Flex versions? Do you have nightmares where Alex is explaining SecurityDomains and ApplicationDomains and SWFLoader.loadForCompatibility? Please let me know (email me at mcho...@... mailto:mchotin%40adobe.com ), we're trying to evaluate some pain points and whether I need to bribe the Player team to solve them ASAP or if it can wait a release. Matt
[flexcoders] Re: create a thumbnail dynamically from large image using flex
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, stinasius stinas...@... wrote: any help guys? http://www.brooksandrus.com/blog/2009/03/11/bilinear-resampling-with-flash-player-and-pixel-bender/
[flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!
the threading not even working in gmail. a subject prefix would be nice aswell [adobeflexforum] or something, like [flexcoders] --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Amy amyblankens...@... wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Hastings paul.hastings@ wrote: As for threading, do you know which header is missing? I notice that speaking of bunnies: http://jochem.vandieten.net/2009/03/31/the-new-adobe-forums-unfulfilled-potential/ If the only thing that they have to do to enable this for nntp is replace the email header with an nntp header, why don't they just give us back nntp? I'm really curious about what's been going on on the Flex forum, but not curious enough to put myself through a web interface or wind up with thousands of e.mails.
[flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!
Who pays you to spend 10-20 hours a week? How do you afford this luxury? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Amy amyblankens...@... wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Sam Lai samuel.lai@ wrote: I'm not on the forums, but they should be sending out the mailing-list header in each email which allows you to create a filter to apply labels to in Gmail. If I am not interested in using a web interface to visit a forum, why would I be interested in using a web interface to get the e.mails that are being sent instead of enabling nntp? NNTP automatically handles threading and putting the groups into their own separate folders, so it feels to me like Adobe has scrapped something that worked well for power forum users, and replaced it with something that's only going to be usable for occasional users. I'm actually thrilled to pieces with the change, because I used to spend 10-20 hours a week reading and responding to posts on there, and now I have a huge chunk of time left every day that I didn't have before. -Amy
Re: [flexcoders]Where does my SWF gain it's weight?
Embedding fonts is a major one ... - bjorn 2009/4/2 Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk I don’t think FB will generate modules reports for you, and I certainly cannot see any options that would. Can I suggest using ANT to compile your app? It gives you much more flexibility for precisely this sort of reason. The alternative is to run mxmlc from a CLI and specify all the parameters yourself as a once off to get the report. Gk. *Gregor Kiddie* Senior Developer *INPS* Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk -- *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Guy Morton *Sent:* 01 April 2009 20:28 *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders]Where does my SWF gain it's weight? FlexBuilder How can I get individual reports? There's only one spot where I can request the link report, afaik. Guy -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!
Will the forums replace flexcoders? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin mcho...@... wrote: Hi all, If you've been using the Adobe forums via the web interface recently you probably saw notices that we're introducing a huge upgrade to the forum system. We're combining the user-to-user forums (adobeforums.com) and the adobe.com forums into a single forum system. We're going to have some great features in there like email participation, RSS feeds, moderation supported by community members (on specific forums, if appropriate), better text entry support (including some levels of code formatting), and user ratings. This has me pretty excited as I think it will be a huge improvement over what we have. The forums are going to be down starting on Friday at 3pm PDT so we can migrate the last 36 months of content over to the new system. We expect the new system to come up by Monday. Once they're up I hope folks will check things out and become active participants. I'll be curious to see what you think, I'm hoping we might even look into combining some of our separated forums under the system if it can meet folks' usability needs. So stay tuned! Matt
[flexcoders] Re: Ribbon in FLEX
Agreed.. Welcome flexcoders-scott-barnes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders-scott-barnes I didn't really feel like it fit under the tech category so i placed it under online relationships. Enjoy We now have a place for all of our Scott Barnes loves Adobe conversations. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Maciek Sakrejda msakre...@... wrote: Can we perhaps have a separate flexcoders-scott-barnes list to discuss whether or not Scott Barnes should be allowed to post to flexcoders and to what extent? Every post by Scott generates three to five posts discussing whether or not his commentary/evangelism is welcome here--this is unarguably more off-topic noise than his actual contributions. -Maciek -Original Message- From: Cole Joplin cole_jop...@... Reply-to: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Ribbon in FLEX Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT) More importantly, I have a concern. There is plenty of room in RIA and Microsoft-oriented forums and groups to make their case. I'm even fine with some open debate in Flexcoders. What I don't want to see is Microsoft's Rich Platforms Product Manager, let alone other Microsofties, spamming our Flex group with spin on thread after thread after thread. Given the traffic on this list, I hardly think that the 2-3 on-topic posts I've seen from Scott in the past week classify as spam. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Jeffry, no fair editing out the next sentence: More importantly, I have a concern. There is plenty of room in RIA and Microsoft-oriented forums and groups to make their case. I'm even fine with some open debate in Flexcoders. What I don't want to see is Microsoft's Rich Platforms Product Manager, let alone other Microsofties, spamming our Flex group with spin on thread after thread after thread. I'm not saying we are there, I'm saying I'm concerned about it. Just reading the language, the last couple of posts are certainly exploring that territory. I think there are more appropriate venues for that than Flexcoders. Being on-topic does not change the nature of the content. Take the third example. Looking over the body of threads of this group, I can't recall seeing a nice bullet-formatted explanation like the one offered by Scott of why IE does not want to support SVG. I'm not saying this was a copy-paste thing, but it is visually very different. Adobe, Microsoft, and others have plenty of propoganda (or spam) posts, and no one is arguing that point. But I'm not going to pretend this particular content is of the same casual nature of the posts typical members of this group make. Scott uses Microsoft's participation in standards bodies and knowledge of gui research that clearly expresses an authority posture to legitimize his point. The typical posts here are overtly subjective developer opinions taken with a grain of salt. Clearly not the same content. Secondly, this is not a response from a Flex developer, doing Flex stuff every work day. (...imagining Scott with a Flex sticker on his laptop as Steve Ballmer walks by...) This is a corporate-sounding explanation, from actual Microsoft management, on an Adobe Flex group, suggesting we use ribbons in Flex, ignore SVG and thank Microsoft for their h.264 standards compliance. Any part of that sentence not accurate? I'm sure Scott is not programming in Flex, and could not possibly be confused as a member of the Flex community or an objective observer. Therefore, his responses in this group must be viewed in the approriate context, in a truthful light. Clearly not a typical poster. If Flexcoders' threads become an active corporate information outlet for Adobe competitors, I don't think that's a good thing for the group. That is my point, and I think it's a perfectly legitimate one.
[flexcoders] Re: Ribbon in FLEX
Good point, Its difficult in an application with so many functions though. Take CS4, the tools panel in Photoshop seems to work for trained designers, but when it got introduced into Flash CS4 with the collapsed panels, its difficult to know which icon to click when they're not all familiar. Personally i dont think most web applications should borrow their design from MS Office. Although the UI may be familiar to the user base, a web application can usually be made more simple by restricting functionality related to the task at hand. eg, thermo's HUD. Mobile UX designers seem to do a good job at this. Take the IPhone. I prefer less obvious, more intuitive controls over a cluttered workspace any day. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gleb Dolgich gleb...@... wrote: Ribbon is not a good UI, IMHO. It comes from Microsoft's idea that every command must have a corresponding icon, which in the past made for some of the most cluttered UIs out there. It's really hard to find what you need in the new Office ribbons, and I would think twice before following this trend. If you feel you need a ribbon in your application, maybe it's time to rethink your UI. -- Gleb Dolgich Twitter: @gbd Web: http://www.pixelespressoapps.com On 30 Mar 2009, at 20:41, Scott Barnes wrote: Just a note. The true power of Ribbon isn't necessarily just a tab/ hbox navigation, it's also about context in that the navigation reacts to elements you may have with your application. Thus producing contextual sensitive additional menu items where the end user invokes sensitive areas. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Thibaud Van Vreckem thibaudm...@... wrote: I know I could do it using tabs and panels, but an existing FLEX version could save me a lot of time. that ribbon design is a perfect example of what flex shines for. it's nothing more than tabs and canvas/Hbox panels. that's probably about 5 sec setup. I'm not sure I understand what you would you need a component for .. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Claudio M. E. Bastos Iorioselecter...@... wrote: Thanks for your answer and links. The silverlight version looks really great. Check this online demo (silverlight required):http://silverlight.services.live.com/invoke/60108/SilverlightRibbon/iframe.html I�m not trying to copy exactly the ribbon. Just the concept. I know I could do it using tabs and panels, but an existing FLEX version could save me a lot of time. If I don�t find any FLEX version, the silverlight version will help me a lot, thanks. I wish I could use silverlight + .NET, but this is an AIR project L __ Claudio M. E. Bastos Iorio From: flexcod...@yahoogroups.com[mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lai Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 3:53 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Ribbon in FLEX http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA101679411033.aspx?pid=CL100796341033#2 Kind of like the toolbar for picking controls in Adobe Dreamweaver (unless they've changed it in recent versions). Unfortunately I haven't heard of any Flash implementations, only Silverlight implementations. You could implement it yourself using a TabNavigator and Panel controls inside each tab for groups, and buttons inside them. It's the styling that will be a pain - the official specs are available from Microsoft for free though, with some conditions attached (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-au/office/aa973809.aspx). You could also use the images and even code if you know XAML from the Silverlight version - http://silverlightribbon.codeplex.com/ Personally I'd be making my own interpretation of the ribbon control instead of following the Microsoft version to the dot, especially seeing as they have changed a few bits in Windows 7 which will probably filter down to Office in Office 2010 (e.g. the confusion with the File menu - the Orb in the top corner is now gone). 2009/3/13 Tracy Spratt tspr...@...: I am not familiar with that control, can you describe it? Tracy Spratt, Lariat Services, development services available From: flexcod...@yahoogroups.com[mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Claudio M. E. Bastos Iorio Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:13 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Ribbon in FLEX Hi, Is there any component (free or paid) similar to the office 2007 ribbon control? TIA __ Claudio M. E. Bastos Iorio -- Regards, Scott Barnes Rich Platforms Product Manager Microsoft. http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog
[flexcoders] Re: I want to use Flex Builder 3 to develop Flash Games
Using swc's for your assets is great because it it also makes compiling a lot
quicker.
With organisation i would suggest a few more categories.
- assets
- component (eg. spaceship) logic
- component factories.
- main
- main factories
- main logic
these separate swcs/swfs make your compiling time even quicker.
The factories are basically used to instantiate everything your main game will
require.
Bjorn
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Axonn theax...@... wrote:
Hi Doobie!
You said:
You might want to organize things differently. Assuming that Game.as is
your main class that you compile for the game, you may not want to
compile this with Flash if you're trying to use Flex Builder.
The way I organize is to break down my stuff into 2 categories - the
main game, and the objects/assets used by the game.
Since yesterday, I guess I found a bit of balance! I found a thread on the
FlashDevelop forum which goes something like this (I'm just telling you the
main idea): You have Game.swc. You then do this:
public class Game_New extends Game
{
public function Game_New()
{
super();
trace('And here, I can add my component-related code for Game.swc');
}
}
So as you can see, this way we can modularize code PER-COMPONENT. This is
the perfect way for me: I can code stuff for each component without actually
going into Flash. I can modularize my component-related code for each SWC
and I also can have the main compiled class contain the main logic.
You said:
There is no way you'll build a game
even in the Flash IDE without grouping your art into some form of
Movieclip or Sprite.
I've been doing computer programming for 11 years now (C#, C++, VB6, PHP),
so I know what you're saying and I agree completely. I even did ActionScript
quite a lot, but that was 5 years ago and it was AS 1.0, so it's like...
another lifetime *laugh*. But no, I wasn't even remotely thinking to work in
such a disorganized way! My designer has about 5 years of Flash behind so
she knows her shit ::- D. But even so, of course I already am establishing
the hierarchical structure of the assets with her. There's no way a good
project would live without lots of good and planned order!!! For example if
you have planet, space ship, man and helmet, there would be no way
in hell I want them lying on the stage for me to stich up together. That
would be a huge waste of time indeed ::- D.
Axonn.
---
The objects and assets I use are usually pretty simple. I like these as
SWCs because I can give them a little logic, and maybe a animated
timeline if need be. Typically if you keep these simple, you'll rarely
have to touch the code, and just have to update with any art changes.
The main game class, however (what I'm assuming you're calling Game.as),
is something that you'll update constantly throughout the lifecycle of
your game. So this is easier to leave as just some code, and don't
compile into a SWC, just let Flex compile with each build of the game.
You can organize stuff however you like though - you could completely
ignore what I said, there's no right way to do it. The above just
happens to be what works for me.
You also talked about your artist not liking having to dig into
movieclips and symbols in the library. Honestly, they should really
learn some organization. Movieclips are the basic building blocks for
interactivity in the Flash IDE. There is no way you'll build a game
even in the Flash IDE without grouping your art into some form of
Movieclip or Sprite.
If your artist can only draw on the main stage, it'll end up being your
job to figure out how to organize things into the movieclips as you need
them and just do the production work yourself. The downside of this, is
having to do this production work everytime the art gets updated. I've
been through this it's not fun. It's easier to do a bit of pre-planning
surrounding your game and get a dialog going with your artist on how to
best organize the assets. If you both stick to the plan, they can work
in Flash independently and just give you an updated SWC every so often
while you work in Flex Builder, updating the logic surrounding the game.
But like I said - people prefer different stuff - I'm sure once you get
a little experience with this workflow, you'll have your own opinions.
ben
Axonn wrote:
Hi Doobie and thanks for your answer!
I just managed to get my first SWC into Flex ::- D. *rejoices*. However, I
can't do anything with it ::- (... I have this Game.swc. In CS3, I set
Game.as to its class. Game.as is in the same folder as Game.swc. After
importing it in Flex, I modified Game.as. I added a trace. But nothing
shows when I run it with Flex ::- ( ... please don't tell me I need to
recompile the SWC if I modify the AS. As far as I understood so far that's
the whole thing
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Builder Compiler Performance Benchmarking
How long has it been since the compile time has been taking that long? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin mcho...@... wrote: We clearly need to see your application and understand your system configuration. This is obviously something going very wrong, I can't imagine your compilation taking more than 30 seconds, and even that would hopefully be very high. Can you provide the source for your app to us (you can mail me offlist)? Also send your system specs. Matt On 3/25/09 8:07 PM, edlueze edlu...@... wrote: Hi Folks: Can somebody tell me what a reasonable compile-time for a Flex Application is? A clean build for my application will take about 2 hours, and an incremental compile after I've changed several files will often take an hour. If I've only changed one file then an incremental compile will usually take less than a minute. I'm using Flex Builder 3.0 in Eclipse and it would be typical for me to see the same error message repeated a dozen times (presumably the compiler has passed through the same file that many times). I was new to Flex when I started this project and I've been working on it for about 6 months. I have no idea how many lines of code I've got, but how big could it be if it's only been me working on it?! There are about 100 files of all sorts and I've cleared out most of the other projects. After reading others complain about compilation times of only 40 seconds (my dream!) I started getting worried that I've fundamentally botched the way I've set things up. Any feedback would be very welcome! Thanks, Ted.
[flexcoders] Re: Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection
Hey Jeff, I did this in an app I built early last year. Basically its like a tearDown in a unit test. The trick is it has to work top down. You have to reset child module model data, prior to resetting parent module model data, prior to shell model date. That way hopefully your views are refreshed. That app was cairngorm and used modules. it also helps to remove the CairngormEventDispatcher singleton. Basically we never unloaded. We just made sure the data was fresh. Even with the profiler it is near impossible to keep track of all your references, even without Cairngorm. Bjorn --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Battershall, Jeff jeff.battersh...@... wrote: Bjorn, It's not ignorant if it is true. And it seems like retro-fitting Cairngorm to support modules is a work in progress. I came across a blog posting where Alistair spoke of better support for modules in Cairngorm in the future, but it looks like there's been no published evolution of Cairngorm in a couple of years. Meanwhile PureMVC seems to have leapfrogged Cairngorm in this department. Unfortunately, I don't think migrating my app to PureMVC is an option at this point. So the question becomes whether it is worth it. My app is currently built to unload modules when the user logs out. The concept is that when someone logs in, in a particular app instance, they will get a completely fresh data model, fresh set of modules based on their profile, etc. The quick and dirty solution is to close down the instance on logout. That would be expeditious, but it bugs me that I'd have to do that. Jeff -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection Here's my ignorant statement for the week. Having a module that is built using Cairngorm unload cleanly is not worth the effort required to make it work. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, claudiu ursica the_braniak@ wrote: I'm loading module via a command, so that it can be loaded form various places... So far I have used a Module Loader... And I use interfaces foe communicating with the modules and the shell. I don't know how you work with module but you can inject your pieces of data from the mx:app in the loader and into module when the as soon as the ready event fires. U can also use BindingUtils to set bindings which in turn returns a change watcher. use that to call unwatch upon when module unloads and so you make sure you performed celanup and unbinding before unload ... Claudiu From: Battershall, Jeff jeff.battershall@ To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:47:22 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection Thanks Pedro, As I said in my previous post, I'm also wondering about the effect of a module's component consuming a dataprovider via binding to a singleton object and the possibility of that preventing GC. I guess this touches on the whole issue of best practices of using ModelLocator with modules. PureMVC has it's 'Pipes' utility to inject data objects into a module, but I'm using Cairngorm and I'm wondering how something similar could be achieved with that framework. Jeff -Original Message- From: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:flexcoders@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Pedro Sena Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:06 PM To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection The GC is not called when the component is remove from the screen. Most people think this occurs, but it's not truth. The GC is called when its required, but WHEN it is required is another point. If you are using just a small piece of your available mamory, don't expect the GC to be called. Regards, PS On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:09 PM, claudiu ursica the_braniak@ yahoo.com wrote: Hi, why do you bind module to the model locator? If by any chance you have embedded CSS in the module it won't garbage collect ... Claudiu From: Battershall, Jeff jeff.battershall@ dowjones. com To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:37:58 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection I've been working on optimizing an AIR application I'm currently working on that utilizes modules. In the modules there are controls bound to ModelLocator data items. What I'm seeing during profiling that removing a module from the display list doesn't seem to result in the module being GC'ed. I'm suspecting binding between
[flexcoders] Re: Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection
Here's my ignorant statement for the week. Having a module that is built using Cairngorm unload cleanly is not worth the effort required to make it work. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, claudiu ursica the_bran...@... wrote: I'm loading module via a command, so that it can be loaded form various places... So far I have used a Module Loader... And I use interfaces foe communicating with the modules and the shell. I don't know how you work with module but you can inject your pieces of data from the mx:app in the loader and into module when the as soon as the ready event fires. U can also use BindingUtils to set bindings which in turn returns a change watcher. use that to call unwatch upon when module unloads and so you make sure you performed celanup and unbinding before unload ... Claudiu From: Battershall, Jeff jeff.battersh...@... To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:47:22 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection Thanks Pedro, As I said in my previous post, I'm also wondering about the effect of a module's component consuming a dataprovider via binding to a singleton object and the possibility of that preventing GC. I guess this touches on the whole issue of best practices of using ModelLocator with modules. PureMVC has it's 'Pipes' utility to inject data objects into a module, but I'm using Cairngorm and I'm wondering how something similar could be achieved with that framework. Jeff -Original Message- From: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:flexcoders@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Pedro Sena Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:06 PM To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection The GC is not called when the component is remove from the screen. Most people think this occurs, but it's not truth. The GC is called when its required, but WHEN it is required is another point. If you are using just a small piece of your available mamory, don't expect the GC to be called. Regards, PS On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:09 PM, claudiu ursica the_braniak@ yahoo.com wrote: Hi, why do you bind module to the model locator? If by any chance you have embedded CSS in the module it won't garbage collect ... Claudiu From: Battershall, Jeff jeff.battershall@ dowjones. com To: flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:37:58 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Modules, Cairngorm and Garbage Collection I've been working on optimizing an AIR application I'm currently working on that utilizes modules. In the modules there are controls bound to ModelLocator data items. What I'm seeing during profiling that removing a module from the display list doesn't seem to result in the module being GC'ed. I'm suspecting binding between the ModelLocator and the module's controls are causing the behavior. Has anyone seen this and can suggest approaches to address this? Jeff Battershall Application Architect Dow Jones Indexes jeff.battershall@ dowjones. com (609) 520-5637 (p) (484) 477-9900 (c) -- /** * Pedro Sena * Systems Architect * Sun Certified Java Programmer * Sun Certified Web Component Developer */
[flexcoders] Remove 'maximize'-icon from window (Adobe AIR)?
I'd think setting maximizable = false in the application xml would remove the icon from the title bar, however this does not seem to do the trick. I know I can set showFlexChrome to false and then make my own title bar (without the maximize button), but this seems a bit backwards when all I want to do is remove the maximize button. Tried styling maximizeButtonSkin/restoreButtonSkin with ClassReference(null) as well. It did work, but messed up the positioning of the minimize button + seems like a hack. Anyone know an easy way? Bjørn-- http://www.bie.no/blog/ - yes, a tech blog.
[flexcoders] AIR: WindowedApplication.exit() does not remove process
I've tried closing an AIR application with exit() and NativeApplication.nativeApplication.exit() - in both cases the app closes but I still see the process running in Windows' task manager. Anyone know what the cause of this might be? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] Open native file browser from Air
I don't mean the native file browser that lets you select a file (FileReferenceList), I mean opening ie. on windows explorer and let the user browse around as normal. Is this possible? Tried navigateToURL with file:// but that just opened the browser in the directory. I'd like to open the file explorer. Bjørn -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] Re: AMF and sending/receiving pictures
Yes, AMF3 supports the ByteArray class. Images can be written into a ByteArray and then sent over Amf. Bjorn --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Weyert de Boer w...@... wrote: Does anyone know if there are any solutions to allow sending pictures from the AMF server-side to the Flash/Flex client? Or do I need to go the Base64 or supply as image url way instead?
[flexcoders] Re: Scale To Fit
I've got a measuring class to do it. Scale to fit, fill, stretch and center. it return a matrix of the values. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, pliechty pliec...@... wrote: Does Flex have a scale to fit mechanism? I would like to scale a component to fit in the visible screen space.
[flexcoders] Re: try, catch, finally ...
In my experience try/catch blocks have been most useful in dealing with sdk component life-cycle errors. It is useful to throw custom errors for debugging purposes but rarely do i need to handle them in a production environment and run another process. Bjorn --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Guy Morton g...@... wrote: I guess the other thing to consider is where you are using them. If you put them in code that's called frequently it's probably more of a problem than if you are using them in code that's called occasionally. On 05/03/2009, at 10:42 AM, Sam Lai wrote: I thought Alex said before that exceptions don't appear for users running the standard Flash Player (i.e. not the debug one). Hence the user won't even know something went wrong; rather the app will probably just enter some unknown/unusable state and effectively freeze. There are cases for using try-catch when there is no other option. But when there are, e.g. testing the type of a variable before casting it or using a fault handler, try-catch should not be used. That could make the code a bit convoluted though, so in cases where errors can occur at many points (e.g. processing data files from an external server) a try-catch may be preferable, not only for code style, but also because you are unlikely to be able to pre-empt and mitigate all the errors that might occur. 2009/3/5 Weyert de Boer w...@...: I respectfully disagree with not handling exceptions and let them raised in the player. Of course, eating exceptions is terribly bad. Yes, raising exceptions because user input is bad is a long stretch. Hi Kevin, Try-Catch blocks are an absolute necessity as without them, you are putting the operation of your software into the hands of user input errors, http errors, unintended consequences as well as the myriad of things that exist outside the Happy Path. I respectfully disagree. IMHO, try-catch is only useful in rare situations; like file IO in an Air app. User input should be handled with restict and validators and http errors should be handled with a fault handler. What I'm saying is that well written/tested code rarely needs the overhead and verboseness of a try-catch block. In the event of un-caught errors, I personally want the Flash window to popup. While the dialog could be more elegant, the stack trace makes it easier to locate the problem and fix the bug quickly. Again, just my opinion. -TH --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Benz kbenz@ wrote: Try-Catch blocks are an absolute necessity as without them, you are putting the operation of your software into the hands of user input errors, http errors, unintended consequences as well as the myriad of things that exist outside the Happy Path. As functions/ methods only give you one return object, it is common practice to throw custom errors/exceptions as they are a great mechanism for handling dynamic environments. To answer your second question about a try-catch without statements in the catch block. If this method is nested inside of another try- catch block, then an exception here will be swallowed and not be caught in the calling objects try-catch. KFB From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of SJF Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:54 PM To: flexcoders Subject: [flexcoders] try, catch, finally ... Technically, it's good practice/professional to use try-catch- finally blocks in your actionscript logic. This ensures a robust, easily debugg-able application. However, can anyone comment if they actually use try-catch- finally or whether anyone is for or against it's use. I ask because I've received an application (which streams vidoe) that was blowing out numerous users CPUs to 100%. Upon further investigation, it appears that a netstream event is firing 20 times a second, and within the listener (listener function that is) for the event, there is a try-catch-finally block. I removed the try-catch-finally and CPU usage halved on my machine. Anyone care to comment for or against try-catch-finally and it's use. Steve. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner http://www.mailscanner.info/ , and is believed to be clean. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/ flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com
[flexcoders] Re: Passing params (flashvars) to sub-applications
Application.creationComplete should be fine.
on your Loaders try Event.INIT
I'm passing flashVars from shell to modules fine, don't see why there would be
any hurdles with sub-applications.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rodseth rrods...@... wrote:
I just did a quick trace test, and the messages were written to the console
in the following order:
1) SWFLoader load complete (registers listener for app complete)
2) embedded application creation complete handler
3) embedded application app complete handler
4) host app handler for embedded app app complete
So presumably if one is setting parameters in 4) they can't be read in 3)...
Tracy, are you following the recipe here (2nd answer)?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/407858/passing-flashvars-style-
parameters-to-a-loaded-swf
Seems to me this could only work if the loaded app is not accessing the
parameters until some subsequent user gesture.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Richard Rodseth rrods...@... wrote:
It was on creation complete.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Alex Harui aha...@... wrote:
Not sure when you tried the code that didn�t work, but application is
not available right away
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc. http://www.adobe.com/
Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
*From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Richard Rodseth
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:47 AM
*To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Re: Passing params (flashvars) to
sub-applications
Thanks for the example, Amy. I was able to do this (on application
complete in the host):
loadedApp = event.target.application
as Application;
loadedApp[configid] = Default;
and see the value in the loaded application.
public function set configid(id:String):void {
this.config_id = id;
}
I was also able to pass a parameter in the url, and access it in the
loaded app's creationComplete via
this.parameters[config_id] (not
Application.application.parameters[config_id]
But I have not been able to get this to work:
loadedApp = event.target.application
as Application;
if(!loadedApp) throw new Error();
loadedApp.parameters[config_id] =
Default;
Loaded app's onCreationComplete()
this.config_id =
Application.application.parameters[config_id];
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Amy amyblankens...@...
wrote:
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Richard
Rodseth rrodseth@ wrote:
I'm experimenting with loading sub applications using SWFLoader. I've
read
numerous posts about this, but for the life of me can't figure out
how to
pass flashvars to the sub application. In particular, the technique
described here (the second one) doesn't work for me
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/407858/passing-flashvars-style-
parameters-to-a-loaded-swf
Surely there's a definitive way to do this?
Have you thought about just setting up getters and setters on your base
class and calling those? This doesn't use getters and setters, but a
getter or setter is just a function, so you can see how it would work:
http://flexdiary.blogspot.com/2009/01/example-of-casting-contets-of-
swfloader.html
[flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3 SDK and AdvancedDataGrid
From the release notes A new version of the data visualization libraries needs to be downloaded and installed into the SDK 3.3 installation to leverage features such as charts and the Advanced DataGrid. The library can be downloaded from the main Flex download page: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/ To install the library and related assets do the following:- 1. Unzip âdatavisualization_for_SDK3.3.zipâ onto the SDK 3.3 folder (e.g. C:\Program Files\Flex Builder 3\sdks\3.3.0). This will extract the following into the SDK 3.3 installation 1. datavisualization.swc into the frameworks\libs folder 2. datavisualization__3.3.0.4852.swz and datavisualization__3.3.0.4852.swf into the frameworks\rsls folder 3. datavisualization_rb.swc into the appropriate frameworks\locale\locale folder 4. DMV-source.jar into the lib folder 2. Open a command prompt or command shell and go to the âlibâ subdirectory in the SDK 3.3 directory tree e.g. C:\Program Files\Flex Builder 3\sdks\3.3.0\lib 3. Extract the sources for the data visualization components from DMV-source.jar by running the command âjava âjar DMV-source.jar license.properties directory ../â e.g. java âjar DMV-source.jar C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Flex NOTE: the folder named âprojectsâ and the file âdmv_automation_build.xmlâ will be extracted into the fbpro folder --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Troy A. Binford troy.binf...@... wrote: Hi, I updated to 3.3 today and now AdvancedDataGrid is not found. Is there something I am missing? Thanks.
[flexcoders] Re: Passing params (flashvars) to sub-applications
The question begs.
Why would you want to use the untyped params object to pass values between swf
applications.
why not just create a setter on the sub application and when its loaded the set
the value on it via the parent application.
use a common interface to get the setter method signature.
Bjorn
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tracy Spratt tspr...@... wrote:
Those traces tell me it should be working, that the embedded app is ready
when the host app attempts to communicate with it.
Tracy
_
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Rodseth
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:42 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Passing params (flashvars) to sub-applications
I just did a quick trace test, and the messages were written to the console
in the following order:
1) SWFLoader load complete (registers listener for app complete)
2) embedded application creation complete handler
3) embedded application app complete handler
4) host app handler for embedded app app complete
So presumably if one is setting parameters in 4) they can't be read in 3)...
Tracy, are you following the recipe here (2nd answer)?
http://stackoverflo
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/407858/passing-flashvars-style-
w.com/questions/407858/passing-flashvars-style-parameters-to-a-loaded-swf
Seems to me this could only work if the loaded app is not accessing the
parameters until some subsequent user gesture.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Richard Rodseth rrods...@gmail.
mailto:rrods...@... com wrote:
It was on creation complete.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.
mailto:aha...@... com wrote:
Not sure when you tried the code that didn't work, but application is not
available right away
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc. http://www.adobe.com/
Blog: http://blogs. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui adobe.com/aharui
From: flexcod...@yahoogro mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:flexcod...@yahoogro mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ups.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Rodseth
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:47 AM
To: flexcod...@yahoogro mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Passing params (flashvars) to sub-applications
Thanks for the example, Amy. I was able to do this (on application complete
in the host):
loadedApp = event.target.application as
Application;
loadedApp[configid] = Default;
and see the value in the loaded application.
public function set configid(id:String):void {
this.config_id = id;
}
I was also able to pass a parameter in the url, and access it in the loaded
app's creationComplete via
this.parameters[config_id] (not
Application.application.parameters[config_id]
But I have not been able to get this to work:
loadedApp = event.target.application as
Application;
if(!loadedApp) throw new Error();
loadedApp.parameters[config_id] =
Default;
Loaded app's onCreationComplete()
this.config_id =
Application.application.parameters[config_id];
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Amy amyblankenship@
mailto:amyblankens...@... bellsouth.net wrote:
--- In flexcod...@yahoogro mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Richard Rodseth rrodseth@ wrote:
I'm experimenting with loading sub applications using SWFLoader. I've
read
numerous posts about this, but for the life of me can't figure out
how to
pass flashvars to the sub application. In particular, the technique
described here (the second one) doesn't work for me
http://stackoverflo
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/407858/passing-flashvars-style-
w.com/questions/407858/passing-flashvars-style-
parameters-to-a-loaded-swf
Surely there's a definitive way to do this?
Have you thought about just setting up getters and setters on your base
class and calling those? This doesn't use getters and setters, but a
getter or setter is just a function, so you can see how it would work:
http://flexdiary.
http://flexdiary.blogspot.com/2009/01/example-of-casting-contets-of-
blogspot.com/2009/01/example-of-casting-contets-of-
swfloader.html
[flexcoders] Re: Getting ByteArray.uncompress() to work in Flash - looking for an example tex
ASCompress supports GZIP http://code.google.com/p/ascompress/ --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, David Adams dpad...@... wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Cato Paus ca...@... wrote: go here http://onrails.org/articles/2007/11/27/flash-utils-bytearray-compressing-4-1mb- to-20k Thanks for the link! I couldn't get the AIR app to compile, but realized it pointed out an obvious strategy: use Flash to encode/decode the test string. I've got that going now so I can sort out a byte comparison with my server-side encoder's. I also found an old bug report that indicates that Flash only understands 'zlib' and does not understand deflate, at the moment. That's a bit of a help but 'zlib' covers a bit of ground, as far as I can tell (?) Thanks again.
Re: [flexcoders] Send a confirmation Email
Do this on the serverside, not in Flex. 2009/2/18 christophe_jacquelin christophe_jacque...@yahoo.fr Hello, How to send a confirmation Email in the flex program when the user get register ? Thank you, Christophe, -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Installing an AIR APP with configuration
yeah, I did make progress. You can give the Application arguments during install: http://www.davidtucker.net/2008/01/10/air-tip-5-passing-arguments-to-an-application-on-install/ ..then it's just a matter of saving this in a file in applicationStorageDirectory or EncryptedLocalStore .. 2009/2/6 dmkramerica kramer.da...@consultant.com Did you ever make progress or solve this? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, bjorn itrashm...@... wrote: What's the best practice here? I need my app to know the username of the user who install it. So I'm thinking of adding it as a parameter to the app in the installer badge, and then saving it in a properties file locally in the app's directory. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] File upload with pause/resume in Flex?
Suggestions on how to implement this? My first thought is to split a file into chunks of FileReferences and then send these chunks individually, making a note of which chunks of a file that have been transferred and which are waiting. That way I can pause the application and continue later. .. but maybe there is an easier solution? :-) -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] Installing an AIR APP with configuration
What's the best practice here? I need my app to know the username of the user who install it. So I'm thinking of adding it as a parameter to the app in the installer badge, and then saving it in a properties file locally in the app's directory. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Padding/spacing before the first line in a TextArea
Jon: Thanks for taking the time to answer this so extensively. Your Method 2 is what I've come up with so far, only using descent instead of ascent, as you pointed out. And yeah, you're right - it doesn't always work since Flash does not seem to return accurate values for ascent/descent/etc. for all fonts. So I'm feeling kind of stuck at the end of this road ... maybe a Gumbo-truck will come to rescue soon?? ;-) Alex Harui: Subclass and reposition the internal textfield. The repositioning itself is not the problem, finding the number of pixels to reposition by is :) Bjørn 2008/12/17 Gordon Smith gosm...@adobe.com This has been a long standing bug that I've been complaining to Adobe about. The new Text Layout Framework that Gumbo components use gives you control over the vertical placement of the first line. Gordon Smith Adobe Flex SDK Team *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Bradley *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2008 7:46 AM *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Re: Padding/spacing before the first line in a TextArea You can't manually remove that padding from the field. It's built into the field as the ascent of the font + 4 pixels for the natural field border (which also cannot be 'removed'). There are only two ways to shift up a field in Flash: Method 1: a. Bitmap snapshot of the text field b. getColorRectBounds on the bitmap in question to retrieve a bounding rectangle of the non-alpha pixels. c. Capture the top position from the Rectangle returned from that call and subtract that value from the y-position of the field. Pros: Will work every time Cons: Additional memory overhead. Tricky to do with the Flex component architecture - especially TextArea Method 2: a. Capture font metrics from the text field b. Subtract (metrics.ascent + 4) from the text field y position. It is the ascent measurement, not descent. Pros: Less memory and less code to deal with. Cons: Will not work every time. Ascent and descent measurements from the font metrics within Flash are not accurate measurements and are only correct at very, very specific font sizes (8, 12, 17, 28, 36, 44 ... etc.). Almost all point sizes of text return incorrect ascent and descent values in Flash. They usually return values less than they really are (7,8,9 point type will return the same ascent value for most fonts, for example). Additionally, you'll still need to extend TextArea to handle the functionality. Does not function well at all with advanced antialiasing ... also a known bug in the Flash text rendering. Saffron antialiasing causes a jump in the leading and position values of lines in a field, so don't use it. -- This has been a long standing bug that I've been complaining to Adobe about. I've worked on applications for some big greeting card companies (take a couple guesses) creating a rendering system in Flash that will match Photoshop and Illustrator text rendering. Illustrator, btw, is the only Adobe application that let's you set the first baseline position of a text field using a variety of measures. Good luck. - jon On Dec 16, 2008, at 8:53 AM, bjorn wrote: Any ideas on where I might find more info about this? .. or people who might know more ... 2008/12/2 bjorn itrashm...@gmail.com There is some padding before the first line in a TextArea. Have a look at this image to see what I mean: http://i34.tinypic.com/4uz8s0.jpg I need to remove this, and the first solution that comes to mind is to find that value and position the TextArea.y = TextArea.y - [that value]. The padding before the first line seems to be equal (in most cases) to the font's descent, which I can get from getTextLineMetrics().descent. However, this is not true in all cases. In some cases, the padding is more. Anyone have suggestions? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] Re: Padding/spacing before the first line in a TextArea
Any ideas on where I might find more info about this? .. or people who might know more ... 2008/12/2 bjorn itrashm...@gmail.com There is some padding before the first line in a TextArea. Have a look at this image to see what I mean: http://i34.tinypic.com/4uz8s0.jpg I need to remove this, and the first solution that comes to mind is to find that value and position the TextArea.y = TextArea.y - [that value]. The padding before the first line seems to be equal (in most cases) to the font's descent, which I can get from getTextLineMetrics().descent. However, this is not true in all cases. In some cases, the padding is more. Anyone have suggestions? Bjørn -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Padding/spacing before the first line in a TextArea
Yepp, thanks .. but that doesn't affect this. It's space inside the TextArea (which is decided by the font in some way).. Bjørn 2008/12/16 Cato Paus ca...@brannsikring.no Have you try this paddingTop: 0; paddingBottom: 0; paddingRight: 0; paddingLeft: 0; on TextArea? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, bjorn itrashm...@... wrote: Any ideas on where I might find more info about this? .. or people who might know more ... 2008/12/2 bjorn itrashm...@... There is some padding before the first line in a TextArea. Have a look at this image to see what I mean: http://i34.tinypic.com/4uz8s0.jpg I need to remove this, and the first solution that comes to mind is to find that value and position the TextArea.y = TextArea.y - [that value]. The padding before the first line seems to be equal (in most cases) to the font's descent, which I can get from getTextLineMetrics().descent. However, this is not true in all cases. In some cases, the padding is more. Anyone have suggestions? Bjørn -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] Padding/spacing before the first line in a TextArea
There is some padding before the first line in a TextArea. Have a look at this image to see what I mean: http://i34.tinypic.com/4uz8s0.jpg I need to remove this, and the first solution that comes to mind is to find that value and position the TextArea.y = TextArea.y - [that value]. The padding before the first line seems to be equal (in most cases) to the font's descent, which I can get from getTextLineMetrics().descent. However, this is not true in all cases. In some cases, the padding is more. Anyone have suggestions? Bjørn -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] SWC file confusion
1. Everytime you add a file in your swc project, Flex Builder requires you to right click the swc project and select all files to be included over again 2. Make sure your project actually links to the .swc that is being built (so, delete the swc you're currently linking to and do a rebuild) Bjørn 2008/11/27 markgoldin_2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have added a SWC file to my project's Library path. Everithing was working fine. Then I moved some folders around, created a new workspace. I added my project to it, and added SWC file to libray again. My application is working fine, but changing anything in any file that is a part of SWC project does not reflect running code. How can I fix what seems to me like a broken link? Thanks -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] TextFormat's leading
What is this value specified in? The docs say: An integer representing the amount of vertical space (called * leading*) between lines. The default value is null, which indicates that the amount of leading used is 0. Is that pixels, points, percentage of the font size, or maybe kilograms? :-) Also, does anyone know if embedded fonts sometimes specify the leading themselves (if nothing is set?). It seems to be vary from font to font -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] Removing an item from a sorted ArrayCollection?
No, my problem is coming from a world with a robust LinkedList implementation. Good times. Anyhow, I'll look into the Demo Test Papers and see if they can help me with ListCollectionView .. thanks guys! :-) Bjørn 2008/11/25 Jules Suggate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bjorn, are you certified? Perhaps that's your problem ;^) On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 21:57, Ashish Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED]verma.lucky%40gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I want to be Flex Certified. from where i can get the Demo Test Papers. Thanks Ashish On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:51 PM, bjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]itrashmail%40gmail.com wrote: I experienced some problems with ArrayCollection's removeItemAt(). It seemed to work... randomly. Tucked away in the documentation i found this little gem: Note: If you use the ICollectionView interface to sort or filter a collection, do not use the IList interface to manipulate the data, because the results are indeterminate. My problem, of course, was that I had a sort on the ac, and that I used IList's removeItemAt(). I don't understand the rationale behind this, maybe someone can explain to me why it's difficult to implement removeItemAt() on a sorted ArrayCollection ... I mean, I _am_ working with sorted data here, so when I say index 11 I mean index 11 on the sorted data. That's the data I see, that's the data I'm using, I don't need to know anything about the underlying Array and the element's _real index_ the ArrayCollection knows which element this refers to in the underlying Array, so there shouldn't be a problem ...? Anyway, given the restraints we're working with here - what is the best way to approach this? I need to be able to remove items from a sorted ArrayCollection - any best practices? Bjørn -- == http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.expressionengine.no - ExpressionEngine; the world's most flexible cms -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] Best browser for debugging on Mac OSX?
Camino is supposed to be pretty fast. Its a little bit more difficult to set up your proxies but it is possible. I was using Camino but I currently use Firefox. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Guy Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got a recommendation? I've been using Firefox, but it seems to bloat memory-wise the longer it runs - often consuming 500Mb after a while. As FB3 also is a memory hog, this makes it hard to run on a 2Gb machine. All I really need it a lightweight browser that can load the Flash plugin. Guy
Re: [flexcoders] Best browser for debugging on Mac OSX?
Any performance increase with Opera? Debugging for me has also become painfully slow. Could it have to do with the FB 3.0.2 upgrade? On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Guy Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find Camino a lot slower than Firefox, and it's probably an even worse memory hog. I'm going to try Opera for a while. On 26/11/2008, at 11:11 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote: Camino is supposed to be pretty fast. Its a little bit more difficult to set up your proxies but it is possible. I was using Camino but I currently use Firefox. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Guy Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got a recommendation? I've been using Firefox, but it seems to bloat memory-wise the longer it runs - often consuming 500Mb after a while. As FB3 also is a memory hog, this makes it hard to run on a 2Gb machine. All I really need it a lightweight browser that can load the Flash plugin. Guy
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Removing an item from a sorted ArrayCollection?
Thanks for that suggestion .. it seems to behave the same way though. I can partly fix this by doing a myAc.refresh() every time, but I see all kinds of strange behaviour (elements will be duplicated, etc.). No one knows the answer to my initial question about why there is a problem implementing removeItemAt()/addItemAt() on a sorted AC? It's tempting to make a WorkingArrayCollection.as ;-) - bjorn 2008/11/21 Haykel BEN JEMIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try doing something like this: var obj:Object = mySortedArray.getItemAt(index); var originalIndex:int = mySortedArray.list.getItemIndex(obj); mySortedArray.list.removeItemAt(originalIndex); I didn't test the code. But the idea behind it is that a ListcollectionView holds a pointer to the IList it's wrapping so you have access to it. All you have to do is get the object you want to remove, find it's index in the wrapped IList and use that index to remove it, again from the wrapped IList. Haykel Ben Jemia Allmas Web RIA Development http://www.allmas-tn.com On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, bjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I experienced some problems with ArrayCollection's removeItemAt(). It seemed to work... randomly. Tucked away in the documentation i found this little gem: Note: If you use the ICollectionView interface to sort or filter a collection, do not use the IList interface to manipulate the data, because the results are indeterminate. My problem, of course, was that I had a sort on the ac, and that I used IList's removeItemAt(). I don't understand the rationale behind this, maybe someone can explain to me why it's difficult to implement removeItemAt() on a sorted ArrayCollection ... I mean, I _am_ working with sorted data here, so when I say index 11 I mean index 11 on the sorted data. That's the data I see, that's the data I'm using, I don't need to know anything about the underlying Array and the element's _real index_ the ArrayCollection knows which element this refers to in the underlying Array, so there shouldn't be a problem ...? Anyway, given the restraints we're working with here - what is the best way to approach this? I need to be able to remove items from a sorted ArrayCollection - any best practices? I usually use either a one or more other ArrayCollections or ListCollectionViews with a pointer to the same data to do filtering and sorting on. Although often that's just because I want to preserve the original order as much as anything. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] Removing an item from a sorted ArrayCollection?
I experienced some problems with ArrayCollection's removeItemAt(). It seemed to work... randomly. Tucked away in the documentation i found this little gem: Note: If you use the ICollectionView interface to sort or filter a collection, do not use the IList interface to manipulate the data, because the results are indeterminate. My problem, of course, was that I had a sort on the ac, and that I used IList's removeItemAt(). I don't understand the rationale behind this, maybe someone can explain to me why it's difficult to implement removeItemAt() on a sorted ArrayCollection ... I mean, I _am_ working with sorted data here, so when I say index 11 I mean index 11 on the sorted data. That's the data I see, that's the data I'm using, I don't need to know anything about the underlying Array and the element's _real index_ the ArrayCollection knows which element this refers to in the underlying Array, so there shouldn't be a problem ...? Anyway, given the restraints we're working with here - what is the best way to approach this? I need to be able to remove items from a sorted ArrayCollection - any best practices? Bjørn -- == http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.expressionengine.no - ExpressionEngine; the world's most flexible cms
Re: [flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work
For anyone else experiencing this problem, I think it's due to a bug: http://jobemakar.blogspot.com/2007/05/texteventlink-bug-in-actionscript-3.html If the textfield isn't selectable, links won't work (onmouseover hand cursor is shown, the links just doesn't work). Bjørn 2008/10/6 bjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] yes, they work by themselves, but not when I load a pure actionscript/flash swf and use it in Flex. I have a SWFLoader which loads the .swf and it seems that this causes the swf not to be able to open a new browser window from htmlText at least (I've tried adding a button and opening a new browser window from it, that works fine with navigateToUrl).. 2008/10/6 Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 06 Oct 2008, bjorn wrote: Have also tried adding event listeners to the textinput component and used links with event:http://; in the htmlText-code. The events are never triggered. Are you saying the example on LiveDocs (http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/textcontrols_04.html#437546) of doing that doesn't work ? It does here... -- Tom Chiverton Helping to authoritatively expedite distributed market-driven sticky networks This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work
Thanks for answering Gregor, but you're mistaken ... it automatically works
in Flex, e.g. this code will open the link in the browser by default:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; layout=absolute
creationComplete=initView()
mx:TextInput id='testInput'/
mx:Script
![CDATA[
*private* *function* initView():*void
*
{
*this*.testInput.htmlText = *a href='http://www.juicability.com'Juicability,
yo/a*;
}
]]
/mx:Script
/mx:Application
.. so there must be something else wrong.
It works if we add a link to a button.
Have also tried adding event listeners to the textinput component and used
links with event:http://; in the htmlText-code. The events are never
triggered.
The thing is we load the swf using a SWFLoader, so I'm thinking it has
something to do with security. I've tried adding .trustContent=true + using
a new loaderContext like this:
*
var* ctx:LoaderContext = *new* LoaderContext(*true*
,ApplicationDomain.currentDomain,SecurityDomain.currentDomain);
.. aslo didn't change anything.
As I said the cursor changes to the hand cursor when hovering over the link,
it's just that nothing happens when you click it.
- bjorn
2008/10/3 Gregor Kiddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You need to look at,
http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=textcontrols_04.html#437546
It doesn't automatically work in Flex, as the automatic behaviour may be
undesirable.
You need to have event handlers for the link.
Gk.
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work
Well, in flash this works out-of-the-box with htmlText .. if you have an
a href tag it's clickable and opens the url in a new window.
2008/10/3 Gregor Kiddie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What would you expect to happen? Is there code to deal with catching the
event and opening the url, opening new windows, etc?
Gk.
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*Subject:* [flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work
I've got a flex application which loads an SWF which contains a link in a
TextField's htmlText. It displays the mouse over handcursor and it looks
like a link - yet when I click it nothing happens. Is there some security
limitation here?
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Re: [flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work
Yeah, one I'd expect a security exception to be thrown as well but I don't see any even when running in debug mode. hmm, well I guess it's back to trying and failing ... heh bjorn 2008/10/6 Gregor Kiddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should know better than to trust the livedocs before trying it first ;) I'd imagine that if it was a security issue, you would get a security violation exception. Have you tried running it in debug and seeing if you get any exceptions being thrown? Gk. *Gregor Kiddie* Senior Developer *INPS* Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *bjorn *Sent:* 06 October 2008 11:53 *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work Thanks for answering Gregor, but you're mistaken ... it automatically works in Flex, e.g. this code will open the link in the browser by default: -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work
yes, they work by themselves, but not when I load a pure actionscript/flash swf and use it in Flex. I have a SWFLoader which loads the .swf and it seems that this causes the swf not to be able to open a new browser window from htmlText at least (I've tried adding a button and opening a new browser window from it, that works fine with navigateToUrl).. 2008/10/6 Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 06 Oct 2008, bjorn wrote: Have also tried adding event listeners to the textinput component and used links with event:http://; in the htmlText-code. The events are never triggered. Are you saying the example on LiveDocs (http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/textcontrols_04.html#437546) of doing that doesn't work ? It does here... -- Tom Chiverton Helping to authoritatively expedite distributed market-driven sticky networks This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work
I've got a flex application which loads an SWF which contains a link in a TextField's htmlText. It displays the mouse over handcursor and it looks like a link - yet when I click it nothing happens. Is there some security limitation here? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work
Well, in flash this works out-of-the-box with htmlText .. if you have an a href tag it's clickable and opens the url in a new window. 2008/10/3 Gregor Kiddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] What would you expect to happen? Is there code to deal with catching the event and opening the url, opening new windows, etc? Gk. *Gregor Kiddie* Senior Developer *INPS* Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *bjorn *Sent:* 03 October 2008 11:37 *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [flexcoders] swf with TextField.htmlText - links do not work I've got a flex application which loads an SWF which contains a link in a TextField's htmlText. It displays the mouse over handcursor and it looks like a link - yet when I click it nothing happens. Is there some security limitation here? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
[flexcoders] AdBlock-like functionality in mx.controls.HTML?
Is it possible to change the html content before rendering using the mx.controls.HTML component? Suggestions to how this could be done? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Checkbox in Datagrid . . . how?
Yes, then you have to write code to get the data into a dataProvider for the Tree, for example creating model objects from the xml and adding them to an ArrayCollection. The checked state can for instance be a boolean inside the model. 2008/9/2 crumpelfungus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add-on / Clarification: In my version of the datagrid checkbox scenario, I am using an XMLList to get the database data as E4X from an HTTPService request. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] Checkbox in Datagrid . . . how?
You need to create a TreeItemRenderer, there's an example in the Flex Cookbook here: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/communityengine/index.cfm?event=showdetailspostId=545productId=2 - bjorn 2008/9/2 crumpelfungus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having looked through the archived topics, I was unable to find anything relevant, but if anyone knows of an existing thread or tutorial, just post the link. Basically, I am retrieving information from a MySQL database and dsiplay it in a datagrid. And I'm using a customized component via the DataGrid's itemRenderer to show a check box in the last column. In my particular case, the checkbox will indicate which records need to get deleted. Is there anyone who's done something similar? And would be willing to share the code? With the custom component from Flex Monkey Patches (http://snipurl.com/3m7be), I can get the checkbox dropped in, but I don't know how to trap the CLICK in the main application to determine whether the checkbox is selected or not. Anyone? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
Re: [flexcoders] embedding fonts with different styles: Helvetica?
Have you tried just removing the fontType and fontWeight completely? I've
used bold fonts by just specifying the fontFamily..
- bjorn
2008/9/2 mariovandeneynde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings!
I'm having trouble with embedding the helvetica font.
I wish to embed the Bold, regular and light font of the Helvetica font
AND the condensed font, also bold, regular and light.
But I keep getting these errors like
exception during transcoding: Font for alias 'KonicaCondensedBold'
with plain weight and style was not found at: HeKMCnBd.ttf
I tried fontStyle:Bold, fontWeight:bold etc but nothing is working...
What is the best way to embed a font with bold and regular type...
Right now I do:
Code:
@font-face {
src:url(/assets/fonts/HeKMBd__.ttf);
fontFamily: KonicaBold;
advancedAntiAliasing: true;
fontStyle:bold;
}
anyone?
--
http://www.juicability.com - flex blog
http://www.nospoiler.com - link to youtube videos without the spoilers
Re: [flexcoders] download many files at a time
It's possible, but you need to show a new save dialog for each file though. 2008/8/28 dialogtmp [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello,all I want to let user to download many files at a time, but I can't use the server side language to implement. I have already searched much information, but still could not find the solution. How should I do? Dose it possible implement in flex? thanks, dialogtmp -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
[flexcoders] Advanced internationalization in Flex
I've worked with Flex' Resource Bundle (.properties) files and it works fine for internationalizing words and simple sentences, but imho it's not really optimal for blocks of text (with linebreaks and maybe even html formatting). Are there other solutions for this? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
[flexcoders] Menu.setStyle('openDuration', 0) will break Alert.show() - bug?
I'm wondering if this is a bug or not .. I accidently discovered that Alert.show() called by a menu would break if the menu had openDuration=0. Check it out here: http://www.juicability.com/entry/setting-openduration-to-0-on-menu-will-break-alert/ Is this a bug? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
[flexcoders] Re: Bi-directional binding
Here's another example of bi-directional binding..
check example 3.
http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/a-couple-of-samples-from-max-no-not-that-one/
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, shaun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Durres76 wrote:
hi, is this possible. var arr : ArrayCollection;
textfield text='{arr.someProperty}'
I know the textfield text will change everytime the ArrayCollection
updates, but can the ArrayCollection update when a user types in the
textfield. essentially binding the array propety to the textfield
value
You can do something like:
textinput id=ti text={a.b} change=a.b=ti.text /
cheers,
- shaun
[flexcoders] Re: Flash Player 10 RC
Where did you get it from? I've got debug version 10,0,0,525 running ok. downloaded from http://opensource.adobe.com/svn/opensource/flex/sdk/tags/trunk_4.0.0.2432/in/player/10/mac/ I'm assuming its a beta 2 player and not rc though. RC version number look like 10.0.2.x --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Sherif Abdou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone? - Original Message - From: Sherif Abdou To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flash Player 10 RC Anyone Having trouble with the Debugger? When I was using the Beta2, The Debugger was 10. Now with the RC Flash Player the Debugger is not 10 but 9r115.
[flexcoders] Re: 3.1 changelog?
I saw this blog post the other day. differences between Flex 3.1.0 and Flex 3.0.0 http://shigeru-nakagaki.com/index.cfm/2008/8/16/20080816-diff-between-Flex310-and-Flex300 Bjorn --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, Is there a changelog for 3.1? I can't seem to find anything via google. -Josh -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Re: 3.1 changelog?
Quote from the doc The Marshall Plan will only support 3.1 Flex applications working in Flex 4 and beyond. http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Marshall+Plan In terms of bug-fixes, haven't seen one yet.. Mind you haven't look much either. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah just found that :) That's pretty much only API changes though, I was wondering if there's anything official listing bugfixes / changes in builder (if any), etc... Did the Marshall Plan stuff go into 3.1 or is it 3.2? -Josh On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this blog post the other day. differences between Flex 3.1.0 and Flex 3.0.0 http://shigeru-nakagaki.com/index.cfm/2008/8/16/20080816-diff-between-Flex310-and-Flex300 Bjorn --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: Hey Guys, Is there a changelog for 3.1? I can't seem to find anything via google. -Josh -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: josh@ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Disable sorting for ArrayCollection ...
I've implemented a tree which displays folders, with a compareFunction that makes sure the folders are always sorted alphabetically. It works fine - if a user moves a folder it automatically shows up in the correct order. I do have a problem with renaming though. This worked before I implemented the compareFunction, but now it totally messes up (since it tries to sort a folder while renaming it) .. so I was wondering if there is a way to disable sorting while editing. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
[flexcoders] Re: A very simple component in AS :(
Basically thats not how to create a component for flex.
The value for title has not been set at the time the constructor runs.
You should look at Flex's component invalidation cycle.
createChildren();
commitProperties();
Its all in the docs.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, flexawesome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey there,
I was trying to create a very simple component in as, there was no error
in compiling. However, I was unable to see the text. :( can you take a
quick look? thank you
=== AS
package
{
import mx.controls.Text;
import mx.core.UIComponent;
public class Footer extends UIComponent
{
public var title:String;
private var _txt:Text;
public function Footer()
{
super.setActualSize(50 , 20 );
_txt= new Text();
_txt.text = title;
addChild( _txt );
}
}
}
in main.mxml ===
local:newText title=asdfasdfa /
[flexcoders] Re: AS3 interface question
Runtime checking is all we get.
public static function isImplementationOf(clazz:Class,
interfaze:Class):Boolean {
var result:Boolean;
if (clazz == null) {
result = false;
}
else {
var classDescription:XML = describeType(clazz) as XML;
result = (classDescription.factory.implementsInterface.(@type ==
getQualifiedClassName(interfaze)).length() != 0);
}
return result;
}
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know, Adobe plans to follow the emerging Ecmascript 4
standard. We're unlikely to support covariant return types in
ActionScript unless ES4 has them.
Gordon Smith
Adobe Flex SDK Team
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Winscot
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:30 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] AS3 interface question
By the way... there is an open issue in the Adobe bug-base regarding
this. Vote for it! NOW!
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3442
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3442
Rick Winscot
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ralf Bokelberg
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:22 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] AS3 interface question
Yep, it's a language feature, which is not there. I think it is called
covariant return types.
Afaik, all you can do is check the type and cast.
Cheers
Ralf.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM, diehlryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:rdiehl%40docfinity.com wrote:
I'm running into a wall when trying to use extension with interfaces.
The example I'm about to provide works using Java, so I believe the
OOP practices behind it are valid. But I can't figure out how to
accomplish the same thing in Flex, I keep running into compiler
issues. The example is a condensed version of something I'm working
on, for simplicity sake.
Let's say you have a bunch of events that all have some common
functionality, like the ability to have a nextEvent. Also, a subset
of those events also have additional functionality, they can be
filtered by a type of criteria. We'll call them search events.
Now, there are some parts of the application that can work with any
type of search event, and any type of criteria. But when the
individual searches are executed, that implementation expects a
specific type of search event and search criteria. That's my end goal
here.
Here are the interfaces I'm using:
public interface ICriteria
{
// just a marker
}
public interface ICustomCriteria extends ICriteria
{
function get name():String;
function set name(name:String):void;
}
public interface IEvent
{
function get nextEvent():IEvent;
function set nextEvent(event:IEvent):void;
}
public interface ISearchEvent
{
function get criteria():ICriteria;
function set criteria(criteria:ICriteria):void;
}
So far, so good. And now the implementing classes:
// would like to make this an abstract class, but not supported in AS
public class BaseEvent implements IEvent
{
private var _nextEvent:IEvent;
public function set nextEvent(event:IEvent):void
{
this._nextEvent = event;
}
public function get nextEvent():IEvent
{
return this._nextEvent;
}
}
// would like to make this an abstract class, but not supported in AS
public class BaseSearchEvent extends BaseEvent implements ISearchEvent
{
private var _criteria:ICriteria;
public function set criteria(criteria:ICriteria):void
{
this._criteria = criteria;
}
public function get criteria():ICriteria
{
return this._criteria;
}
}
Those base classes are fine and compile correctly. Now if you
remember from the requirements, there are some places that can work
with any type of ISearchEvent, and some places that can only work with
an individual subclass. Here is where the compiler errors come in.
Doing what I am about to do works in Java, and I'm wondering if there
is a way to accomplish it in AS3.
public class CustomSearchEvent extends BaseSearchEvent
{
private var _criteria:ICustomCriteria;
public override function get criteria():ICustomCriteria
{
return this._criteria;
}
public override function set criteria(criteria:ICustomCriteria):void
{
this._criteria = criteria;
}
}
The above class does not compile because the method signatures for
get/set criteria are different than those specified in the interface.
But from an OO perspective, I think this is a valid thing to want to
do. If you're working with an ISearchEvent instance, you should be
able to subclass the base class and provide custom behavior. The
ICustomCriteria is a subclass of ICriteria, so you should be able to
substitute them in this context. Is there another way to accomplish
this? Or is this just a
Re: [flexcoders] .visability = true, but is it viewable?
Yeah, I do that also. The thing is I display hundreds of these animations, and it may take time to load the files they are loading. So if the user switches view, I don't want to keep the animations running - even though they are still loading in the background. It would be nice to just be able to tell them to stop if they're not visible. 2008/6/25 Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You say that the animation plays while something is loading. When the something has loaded, stop the timer. Paul - Original Message - *From:* bjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:17 PM *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] .visability = true, but is it viewable? The timer is used to update the animation. I need to know when to stop it. 2008/6/25 Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why not just remove the timer? - Original Message - *From:* bjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:01 PM *Subject:* [flexcoders] .visability = true, but is it viewable? I have an animation that is displayed using a timer while something is loading. When this animation isn't visible, I don't want the timer to keep updating the animation. I've overridden the set visible( value:Boolean ) function and stop the animation if visible is set to false; but the problem is that visible=false doesn't happen e.g. if a ViewStack change occurs causing the animation to be hidden. If I check the .visible flag in the timer event I see that the component is still visible (but it's not displayed since it's hidden). Checking with Show redraw regions confirms that it is running in the background. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
Re: [flexcoders] .visability = true, but is it viewable?
Thanks for the input Mike, it's a good idea which will solve my problem, but it is still sort of a last-resolution solution -- since I will need to have a list of all these loader-animations and stop each one of them - in additon to implementing a solution like this each time one of them is in use. I was hoping to have the loader-animation component fix this itself - if it knew when it was being displayed or not it could stop/start the animation. So that the programmer who uses the loaderanimation doesn't have to think about it :-) 2008/6/26 Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi bjron, This is just a guess but how bout adding a 'change' listener to the viewstack and use the old index to get the last selected child, then get it's timer and stop it with that. ... just a thought Mike -- Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigraphix.com Teoti Graphix Blog http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
Re: [flexcoders] .visability = true, but is it viewable?
It doesn't seem that setVisible(false) is called on all the children (that is, the loaders) - so overriding it in the loader-animation won't do the trick ... but I guess I could hook onto the parent in some way, yes - since ViewStack does seem to call setVisible(false) on the container ... I will look into that. Thanks again for your suggestions :-) Bjorn 2008/6/26 Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I don't know 'how' you have the view set up but, could you listen to the change event from the loader? IE when it's added to it's parent's display list (viewstack), add the listener there? parent.addEventListener(Event.CHANGE, stopLoader, false, 0, true); I only came up with this since I quickly looked at the ViewStack code. -- Scratch what I said above, just looked at the code again. When the lastChild is is hidden, it's done with setVisible() not .visible. So you should be able to override setVisible() and use your original logic. Mike On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 7:56 AM, bjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the input Mike, it's a good idea which will solve my problem, but it is still sort of a last-resolution solution -- since I will need to have a list of all these loader-animations and stop each one of them - in additon to implementing a solution like this each time one of them is in use. I was hoping to have the loader-animation component fix this itself - if it knew when it was being displayed or not it could stop/start the animation. So that the programmer who uses the loaderanimation doesn't have to think about it :-) 2008/6/26 Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi bjron, This is just a guess but how bout adding a 'change' listener to the viewstack and use the old index to get the last selected child, then get it's timer and stop it with that. ... just a thought Mike -- Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigraphix.com Teoti Graphix Blog http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies -- Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigraphix.com Teoti Graphix Blog http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
[flexcoders] .visability = true, but is it viewable?
I have an animation that is displayed using a timer while something is loading. When this animation isn't visible, I don't want the timer to keep updating the animation. I've overridden the set visible( value:Boolean ) function and stop the animation if visible is set to false; but the problem is that visible=false doesn't happen e.g. if a ViewStack change occurs causing the animation to be hidden. If I check the .visible flag in the timer event I see that the component is still visible (but it's not displayed since it's hidden). Checking with Show redraw regions confirms that it is running in the background. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
Re: [flexcoders] .visability = true, but is it viewable?
The timer is used to update the animation. I need to know when to stop it. 2008/6/25 Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why not just remove the timer? - Original Message - *From:* bjorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:01 PM *Subject:* [flexcoders] .visability = true, but is it viewable? I have an animation that is displayed using a timer while something is loading. When this animation isn't visible, I don't want the timer to keep updating the animation. I've overridden the set visible( value:Boolean ) function and stop the animation if visible is set to false; but the problem is that visible=false doesn't happen e.g. if a ViewStack change occurs causing the animation to be hidden. If I check the .visible flag in the timer event I see that the component is still visible (but it's not displayed since it's hidden). Checking with Show redraw regions confirms that it is running in the background. -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
[flexcoders] Re: multidimentional ArrayCollections and collectionEvent....
the change event would still be dispatching from the myOtherArr though. perhaps in your view or whatever is listening to the change event for myArr you can loop through its items, check if any are arrayCollections and then listen to their change events as well. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Durres76 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, collectionEventKind.Update does not seem to fire when subitems within a collection change, i.e.. myArr = new ArrayCollection(); myOtherArr = new ArrayCollection(); myArr.addItem(myOtherArr); the update event does not fire if myOtherArr changes. it does if myArr changes.
[flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Event Question
I'm assuming Binding would be the easiest solution. If your binding directly from your model to the advancedDataGrid binding should take care of the updating for you.. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, donvoltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been building on my cairngorm experience and have come up to a snag. I understand the whole idea about using the controller to trap and respond to events, however, how do I deal with custom view components that need to respond to an event. For example, I have a custom component that contains an advanced data grid. I am filling the modelLocator with data from the server and using this as the data provider for the advanced data grid. The problem I have is when the user selects a different date, I generate a cairngorm event to load new data from the server. This information is dealt with in the controller, however, I am not able to send the event to the custom component to refresh the advance data grid and display the data. Would someone help me to understand how I can use the events, or generate a new custom event to trigger some activity within a custom view component Thanks for the help Don
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
Just some random thoughts. It seems most of the posts on the list are general help questions. Alex and the other guys have been a great help when it comes to asking questions where the answers weren't bleedingly obvious to me in the documentation. Sometimes I have more abstract questions that I ask myself in terms of design and architecture that I do not feel would be appropriate to ask on this list. It seems that because of the volume of questions most of the answers are short and to the point. Sometimes I would be looking for feedback and to build on ideas or concepts and I get the feeling a more advanced list would be appropriate. I've done a lot of work that I simply haven't published (mostly because i don't own the IP), but i would love a forum to discuss some of these new ideas I have. If new lists gets the backing from adobe, farata, UM and others I think this could encourage a new wave in community involvement. regards, Bjorn --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Doug McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I plan on gathering a complete archive of the list over the next week and doing some analysis. I'll post the full dataset once I get it compiled to let others play with it too. I'm working on a variety of ways to get a compiled list of all messages, but I think between either scraping the mail archive site and scraping the yahoo group site I should have it figured out in another week. Then of course I'll build some flex apps to crunch some of the data :) Doug On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as stats, we've had about 100 people join in the last week. I don't know how many folks unsubscribed, that seems to be a little harder to track easily and I don't have time to read through all the logs (if someone would like to write some scripts to go through the logs and build up these kinds of stats let me know and I'll get you access). Also hard to know how many of the folks who joined are spammers, but I don't think that many :-) This is a tough position for me to comment on because we want the community to thrive and have a life of its own that isn't controlled by Adobe. That said, we clearly want to see it succeed and will involve ourselves as necessary to try to make that happen. Based on the comments I'm seeing in this thread I don't see the big clamor to divide the list. I see folks who have figured out workflows that work for them, and suggestions for how to make things more manageable. That said, the issue that Anatole raises is whether we are preventing new users from getting help, or preventing advanced users from participating. Most of those folks who have been hurt we can assume are folks who are not on the list anymore, so it's difficult to really know without some sort of data as to why they left the list. If people are willing to wait a few weeks, maybe we could work on trying to gather that data and make a decision after. Another piece of data we could use is an analysis of the kinds of posts that have happened recently, perhaps compared to posts from a year ago, and see if the skill level of posters is increasing, how many threads are going un answered, semi-subjective view of signal vs. noise. This would help us understand if there is meaning behind the low rate of increase in total number of members, as well as the generally flat nature of posts per month. Does doing this kind of analysis interest anyone? Are the folks who advocate separating the list interested in waiting for this kind of analysis? For me, it seems kind of critical to have real data before making this kind of decision, as we're going with hunches as to what's really happening here. I'd have a hard time getting behind a real split when we don't know if doing so would actually improve things. Matt On 6/17/08 3:15 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, As far as I know, I am the only one in the NY office who did not unsubscribe from the group. Looks at the stats ( provided by Tim) or just go to the group page. Also, the number of users if I remember it correctly has been in 9K for at least 6 month - meaning you have the same number of people in and OUT - obviously you need to ask Matt if he has more detailed stats on unsubscribes count. Regards, Anatole On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Doug McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, this is worth going back to, because your initial email said that the group was stagnant and has plateaued with the number of new users and questions. Except your reason for bringing it up is that the traffic has gotten too much for you to read every message. So clearly the level of traffic isn't stagnant. Unless what you're saying is that about 6 months ago the traffic reached a critical level where you couldn't deal with the traffic but then it stopped growing. So I guess I'm saying I question
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
Also, to Bjorn, that's a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of having an arch/concepts list might be interesting. The two questions I would have would be: 1) would the questions on this list have any connection to Flex Anatole mentioned it earlier in a 'Best Practices' list. For example at MAX thy had that Best Practices panel and some interesting topics were brought up and discussed. From my point of view I'm always learning. It would be an interesting read for me. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Freiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that a FAQ seems like a good idea no matter what. Is anyone against this idea independent of the argument of whether or not to split the list? As far as splitting lists, I still think if people want to propose potential new lists, they need to be much more explicit about what the list will be for. I'll take the enterprise example. Let's assume for a second it has only one correct meaning (which is an assumption I agree with, but many people disagree with me on that). Enterprise has become a buzzword with many different commonly understood meanings, and most of those meanings are vague. There's no way for everyone on the list to be sure that we're talking about the same thing unless someone explicitly spells out what we are talking about (I'm not going to because I'm against having a enterprise list given every way I know to interpret the word). And if we don't have a common understanding of the proposal we can't efficiently criticize/support/amend the proposal. I'm not saying there has to be a fine line separating the lists, but it should at least be a fuzzy line. Also, to Bjorn, that's a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of having an arch/concepts list might be interesting. The two questions I would have would be: 1) would the questions on this list have any connection to Flex other than the fact that the users code in Flex (I think it probably would) or would it just be piggybacking on the user base; 2) Will it avoid stratification of the user base (i.e. will it be practically accessible to users of all skill levels)? Lastly, I'm going to reiterate my opinion that we shouldn't separate the lists based on skill/level difficulty. The distinction is too fuzzy (Too much cross-posting and too much posting to the wrong list). Sometimes you don't know if you're question is advanced or not until you get the answer. I've had a few times where I've asked what I thought was a simple question and the response from Gordon was I talked to a guy on the player team... If a question has a one line answer it can't be complex...unless the one line required going through the player or compiler code to understand it (sorry for the overstatement). - Daniel Freiman On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having been on this list since 2004, yeah back when the Iteration folks were not Adobe Robe Wearers yet, I've seen this discussion come up a few times. I've asked for a associated FAQ a few times, but there was no interest from the Iteration folks on this or splitting up things, no offense Alistair or Stephen you more than rocked with helping this community. I'd certainly agree to a good FAQ be made available and sent to the list monthly for all to be reminded and have it linked at the footer. Bjorn has a good point later in this thread about the idea that answers are terse due to volume. Matt, I do agree with your #1, but #2 and #3 sounds too much like list mommies or invitations for list mommies. Something quite uncommon to the best of my recollection on flexcoders is the real need for list mommies. I'm in Anatole's camp on this, having multiple lists could be beneficial to all as well as the community. Do we know this for a fact? Nope, my crystal ball isn't helping, but it has with many other topics in the past. Conversely it may have hindered others, but perhaps because the introduction of split lists was premature, who knows. Hey, there are already multiple lists, besides flexcomponents there is HOF_Flex for one and the India based list too, I'm sure there are others. I suggest we start off with a couple very generic variants. flexcoders_enterprise seems ok to me, those that work with enterprise tools would find it obvious. leave flexcoders as is, add in a designer centric list, and a advanced list and go from there, revisit in a few months to see how it went. Oh, BTW there are other email readers that do threaded tricks like GMail...though I don't use them. :) DK On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED]mchotin%40adobe.com wrote: Hey folks, let's calm down a little here, K? Alright, based on what I've been seeing people say, here's my suggestion. 1) Let's get an FAQ going that can be edited by moderators or members of the community
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
cool. This discussion needs some resolving though. I'm all for the creation of another 15 lists. With all the cross-posting, subject-meta, gmail, stats, my-left-arm-is-longer-than-my-right arguments, my vote is still with the split. best-practices, architecture, components, unit-testing, deployment, flash-flex, remote services, java-flex architectures, design ux, announcements, etc.. lets do it. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Freiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think of Best Practices and Architecture/Concepts as separate but overlapping categories so I guess that's why I thought no one else brought it up. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, to Bjorn, that's a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of having an arch/concepts list might be interesting. The two questions I would have would be: 1) would the questions on this list have any connection to Flex Anatole mentioned it earlier in a 'Best Practices' list. For example at MAX thy had that Best Practices panel and some interesting topics were brought up and discussed. From my point of view I'm always learning. It would be an interesting read for me. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Daniel Freiman FreimanCQ@ wrote: I agree that a FAQ seems like a good idea no matter what. Is anyone against this idea independent of the argument of whether or not to split the list? As far as splitting lists, I still think if people want to propose potential new lists, they need to be much more explicit about what the list will be for. I'll take the enterprise example. Let's assume for a second it has only one correct meaning (which is an assumption I agree with, but many people disagree with me on that). Enterprise has become a buzzword with many different commonly understood meanings, and most of those meanings are vague. There's no way for everyone on the list to be sure that we're talking about the same thing unless someone explicitly spells out what we are talking about (I'm not going to because I'm against having a enterprise list given every way I know to interpret the word). And if we don't have a common understanding of the proposal we can't efficiently criticize/support/amend the proposal. I'm not saying there has to be a fine line separating the lists, but it should at least be a fuzzy line. Also, to Bjorn, that's a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of having an arch/concepts list might be interesting. The two questions I would have would be: 1) would the questions on this list have any connection to Flex other than the fact that the users code in Flex (I think it probably would) or would it just be piggybacking on the user base; 2) Will it avoid stratification of the user base (i.e. will it be practically accessible to users of all skill levels)? Lastly, I'm going to reiterate my opinion that we shouldn't separate the lists based on skill/level difficulty. The distinction is too fuzzy (Too much cross-posting and too much posting to the wrong list). Sometimes you don't know if you're question is advanced or not until you get the answer. I've had a few times where I've asked what I thought was a simple question and the response from Gordon was I talked to a guy on the player team... If a question has a one line answer it can't be complex...unless the one line required going through the player or compiler code to understand it (sorry for the overstatement). - Daniel Freiman On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Douglas Knudsen douglasknudsen@ wrote: Having been on this list since 2004, yeah back when the Iteration folks were not Adobe Robe Wearers yet, I've seen this discussion come up a few times. I've asked for a associated FAQ a few times, but there was no interest from the Iteration folks on this or splitting up things, no offense Alistair or Stephen you more than rocked with helping this community. I'd certainly agree to a good FAQ be made available and sent to the list monthly for all to be reminded and have it linked at the footer. Bjorn has a good point later in this thread about the idea that answers are terse due to volume. Matt, I do agree with your #1, but #2 and #3 sounds too much like list mommies or invitations for list mommies. Something quite uncommon to the best of my recollection on flexcoders is the real need for list mommies. I'm in Anatole's camp on this, having multiple lists could be beneficial to all as well as the community. Do we know this for a fact? Nope, my crystal ball isn't helping, but it has with many other topics in the past. Conversely it may have hindered others, but perhaps because the introduction of split lists was premature, who knows
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
could argue that at times it's certainly not helping my productivity :) Agreed.. I'm using apple mail and achieving something similar.. Mail seems to render the rss html better than gmail. Ion's cool.. but no offline support. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Doug McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of morbid curiosity, am I the only one who has multiple email lists all being filtered into the same mega-list? I have flexcoders, flexcomponents, apollocoders, papervision, degrafa, flexlib, and flexjobs all dropped into a mondo folder in gmail. I color code each list accordingly so I can at a glance see which list a message is from, but typically I read them all in the master list. Nobody else does this? Somehow I can stay on top of it all, although I'm sure you could argue that at times it's certainly not helping my productivity :) Doug On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool. This discussion needs some resolving though. I'm all for the creation of another 15 lists. With all the cross-posting, subject-meta, gmail, stats, my-left-arm-is-longer-than-my-right arguments, my vote is still with the split. best-practices, architecture, components, unit-testing, deployment, flash-flex, remote services, java-flex architectures, design ux, announcements, etc.. lets do it. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Freiman FreimanCQ@ wrote: I think of Best Practices and Architecture/Concepts as separate but overlapping categories so I guess that's why I thought no one else brought it up. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailinglists@ wrote: Also, to Bjorn, that's a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of having an arch/concepts list might be interesting. The two questions I would have would be: 1) would the questions on this list have any connection to Flex Anatole mentioned it earlier in a 'Best Practices' list. For example at MAX thy had that Best Practices panel and some interesting topics were brought up and discussed. From my point of view I'm always learning. It would be an interesting read for me. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Daniel Freiman FreimanCQ@ wrote: I agree that a FAQ seems like a good idea no matter what. Is anyone against this idea independent of the argument of whether or not to split the list? As far as splitting lists, I still think if people want to propose potential new lists, they need to be much more explicit about what the list will be for. I'll take the enterprise example. Let's assume for a second it has only one correct meaning (which is an assumption I agree with, but many people disagree with me on that). Enterprise has become a buzzword with many different commonly understood meanings, and most of those meanings are vague. There's no way for everyone on the list to be sure that we're talking about the same thing unless someone explicitly spells out what we are talking about (I'm not going to because I'm against having a enterprise list given every way I know to interpret the word). And if we don't have a common understanding of the proposal we can't efficiently criticize/support/amend the proposal. I'm not saying there has to be a fine line separating the lists, but it should at least be a fuzzy line. Also, to Bjorn, that's a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of having an arch/concepts list might be interesting. The two questions I would have would be: 1) would the questions on this list have any connection to Flex other than the fact that the users code in Flex (I think it probably would) or would it just be piggybacking on the user base; 2) Will it avoid stratification of the user base (i.e. will it be practically accessible to users of all skill levels)? Lastly, I'm going to reiterate my opinion that we shouldn't separate the lists based on skill/level difficulty. The distinction is too fuzzy (Too much cross-posting and too much posting to the wrong list). Sometimes you don't know if you're question is advanced or not until you get the answer. I've had a few times where I've asked what I thought was a simple question and the response from Gordon was I talked to a guy on the player team... If a question has a one line answer it can't be complex...unless the one line required going through the player or compiler code to understand it (sorry for the overstatement). - Daniel Freiman On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Douglas Knudsen douglasknudsen@ wrote: Having been on this list since 2004, yeah back when the Iteration folks were not Adobe Robe Wearers yet, I've seen this discussion come up a few times
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Css Html Css
Do you have any examples?? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, David Pariente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just did something even more complicated today using degrafa and css, with a few lines of code, and i'm IMPRESSED! - Mensaje original De: Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Enviado: lunes, 16 de junio, 2008 5:33:41 Asunto: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Css Html Css Have you seen degrafa? You can do all this via CSS. http://blog. benstucki. net/?p=46 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Michael Schmalle teoti.graphix@ ... wrote: Hi, Well.. you can't really unless you create a custom skin. There are some open source stuff out there that allows you to use a background repeat algorithm. There is no background position styles either. So really, what you want to do cannot be done with Flex3 css. Mike On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:27 AM, xaero xaero@ wrote: And then How can I set the page's background like in the HTML Css? That is: background-repeat: repeat-x; background-Position X: left; background-Position Y: bottom; --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com flexcoders% 40yahoogroups. com, Michael Schmalle teoti.graphix@ wrote: No, you can't do this. Flex CSS is not 'real' css and does not conform to WC3. Mike -- Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigra phix.com Teoti Graphix Blog http://www.blog. teotigraphix. com You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'. __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente.
[flexcoders] Re: Error : Type Coercion failed: cannot convert mx.utils::ObjectProxy to Array
what object are you casting to an array? take a look at ::object_proxy --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, ajayakiti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TypeError: Error #1034: Type Coercion failed: cannot convert mx.utils::[EMAIL PROTECTED] to Array. at com.brookeside.enact.view.navigation.company::HomeComponent/::loyaltyLevelLineMonitorResult() at com.brookeside.enact.view.navigation.company::HomeComponent/__loyaltyLevelLineMonitorService_result() at flash.events::EventDispatcher/flash.events:EventDispatcher::dispatchEventFunction() at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent() at mx.rpc.http.mxml::HTTPService/http://www.adobe.com/2006/flex/mx/internal::dispatchRpcEvent() at mx.rpc::AbstractInvoker/http://www.adobe.com/2006/flex/mx/internal::resultHandler() at mx.rpc::Responder/result() at mx.rpc::AsyncRequest/acknowledge() at ::DirectHTTPMessageResponder/completeHandler() at flash.events::EventDispatcher/flash.events:EventDispatcher::dispatchEventFunction() at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent() at flash.net::URLLoader/flash.net:URLLoader::onComplete()
[flexcoders] Re: How to debug
When I get lost I start removing code until i can get a working build. Provided you can you adl to debug other apps this approach should help. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh Millstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got an application that I'm building that just started crashing adl. Is there anyway to debug something like this? I have traced the issue to a semi-specific area of my code, but when it crashes I can't use any of the debug stuff to get a closer look at the problem. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 785-832-9154
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
I like the idea of splitting topics into different lists. I also like Anatole's suggestions for list types. Flexcoders has become to over-bloated.. I would be in favour for looking at topics that I'm interested in. Perhaps this will get more of the experienced contributors back on the list. Imagine if OSFlash had only one mailing list. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Anatole Tartakovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Flexcoders has huge problem. In the last 15 month it is very much stagnant in terms of message count and participation. It is not growing and dropping members as fast as it gets them. I believe this group has overgrown the optimal size about a year ago and needs to be divided in more focused smaller groups. My mail box get 100+ messages a day on all kinds of topic - unless I can spend 30+ minutes that day to sort them out it goes directly into garbage can. Most people in the company unsubscribed from it 18 month ago. Most of veteran developers I know either unsubscribed or stopped looking in this mess greatly diminishing the quality of the responses. As a result group mostly host new developers and looses most of experienced ones after very short period of time. Further delay of breaking this group hinders usefulness of the group for all of us as now we have significant amount of users that are being forced out. I believe it is time to archive flexcoders and branch (12?) targeted new user groups I would like to see people suggesting user subgroups and WiKi topics for Flex community site to go with each group - providing best posts in more systematic way. I suggest the following Yahoo groups ( created couple for your convenience). Flex101: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flex101/ Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseFlex: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/enterpriseflex/ Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FlexUI FlexDesign FlexSDK FlexDeployment FlexFlash FlexFrameworks FlexBestPractices EnterpriseFlex: FlexBlazeDS: weborb: Sincerely, Anatole Tartakovsky Farata Systems
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
1. 101 Is creating a new group for this necessary or is flexcoders already handling this? 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) The name seems too abstract, what area are we targeting? Is is to show off new ideas or syntax questions. 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) Love it! Can we replace UI with UX : ) 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks Does this include WebOrb/Blaze/LCDS ? 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks Apollocoders exists. not sure what the traffic is like. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not a bad list of categories at all Anatole. It would be best if there's still some sort of (read-only?) meta-list that shows all messages, and if it were smart enough that you could read the all list and replies went to the correct lists it'd be a pretty good common ground I think. I'm no mailing-list-guy though, so no idea if that's feasible. -Josh On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, Splitting the last 500 topics in groups it would be: 1. 101 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks there Thank you Anatole Tartakovsky Farata Systems On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:t Practices/Frameworks I do think 12 is way too high a number BTW. Would recommend capping at 5 absolute max. On 6/16/08 8:28 PM, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED]mchotin%40adobe.com wrote: Hey guys, If you think that splitting the lists is the right thing to do for the larger community then I'm not going to stop you. I think we were right in the past to recommend against the split, but I can see Anatole's point that traffic has stagnated and we'd certainly like the community to thrive. We'll certainly try to pay attention to as much as possible (not like it's me doing much but you know some Adobe folks are quite active), but no guarantees on how it will go. The Adobe forums themselves are definitely lacking, primarily because we can't access them via email. There is a project going on within Adobe to improve the experience drastically, and we definitely intend to split forums there (and hopefully convince everyone to come back over and move away from Yahoo Groups); but it's still a number of months away at the earliest. I would hope that folks will continue to help users of all levels, and we'll need moderators to handle whatever new lists are created. Matt On 6/16/08 8:17 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]bjorn.mailinglists%40gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of splitting topics into different lists. I also like Anatole's suggestions for list types. Flexcoders has become to over-bloated.. I would be in favour for looking at topics that I'm interested in. Perhaps this will get more of the experienced contributors back on the list. Imagine if OSFlash had only one mailing list. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com mailto: flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.commailto: flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.com , Anatole Tartakovsky anatole.tartakovsky@ wrote: Dear All, Flexcoders has huge problem. In the last 15 month it is very much stagnant in terms of message count and participation. It is not growing and dropping members as fast as it gets them. I believe this group has overgrown the optimal size about a year ago and needs to be divided in more focused smaller groups. My mail box get 100+ messages a day on all kinds of topic - unless I can spend 30+ minutes that day to sort them out it goes directly into garbage can. Most people in the company unsubscribed from it 18 month ago. Most of veteran developers I know either unsubscribed or stopped looking in this mess greatly diminishing the quality of the responses. As a result group mostly host new developers and looses most of experienced ones after very short period of time. Further delay of breaking this group hinders usefulness of the group for all of us as now we have significant amount of users that are being forced out. I believe it is time to archive flexcoders and branch (12?) targeted new user groups I would like to see people suggesting user subgroups and WiKi topics for Flex community site to go with each group - providing best posts in more systematic way. I suggest the following Yahoo groups ( created couple for your convenience). Flex101: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flex101/ Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] flex101%40yahoogroups.commailto: flex101%40yahoogroups.com flex101%2540yahoogroups.commailto: flex101%40yahoogroups.com flex101%2540yahoogroups.com
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
Existing - FlexCoders - FlexComponents - ApolloCoders - FlexJobs New - EnterpriseFlex - FlexUIDesign - FlexAnnouncements - ActionscriptCoders ? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. 101 Is creating a new group for this necessary or is flexcoders already handling this? 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) The name seems too abstract, what area are we targeting? Is is to show off new ideas or syntax questions. 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) Love it! Can we replace UI with UX : ) 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks Does this include WebOrb/Blaze/LCDS ? 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks Apollocoders exists. not sure what the traffic is like. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: That's not a bad list of categories at all Anatole. It would be best if there's still some sort of (read-only?) meta-list that shows all messages, and if it were smart enough that you could read the all list and replies went to the correct lists it'd be a pretty good common ground I think. I'm no mailing-list-guy though, so no idea if that's feasible. -Josh On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky anatole.tartakovsky@ wrote: Matt, Splitting the last 500 topics in groups it would be: 1. 101 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks there Thank you Anatole Tartakovsky Farata Systems On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:t Practices/Frameworks I do think 12 is way too high a number BTW. Would recommend capping at 5 absolute max. On 6/16/08 8:28 PM, Matt Chotin mchotin@mchotin%40adobe.com wrote: Hey guys, If you think that splitting the lists is the right thing to do for the larger community then I'm not going to stop you. I think we were right in the past to recommend against the split, but I can see Anatole's point that traffic has stagnated and we'd certainly like the community to thrive. We'll certainly try to pay attention to as much as possible (not like it's me doing much but you know some Adobe folks are quite active), but no guarantees on how it will go. The Adobe forums themselves are definitely lacking, primarily because we can't access them via email. There is a project going on within Adobe to improve the experience drastically, and we definitely intend to split forums there (and hopefully convince everyone to come back over and move away from Yahoo Groups); but it's still a number of months away at the earliest. I would hope that folks will continue to help users of all levels, and we'll need moderators to handle whatever new lists are created. Matt On 6/16/08 8:17 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailinglists@bjorn.mailinglists%40gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of splitting topics into different lists. I also like Anatole's suggestions for list types. Flexcoders has become to over-bloated.. I would be in favour for looking at topics that I'm interested in. Perhaps this will get more of the experienced contributors back on the list. Imagine if OSFlash had only one mailing list. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com mailto: flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.commailto: flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.com , Anatole Tartakovsky anatole.tartakovsky@ wrote: Dear All, Flexcoders has huge problem. In the last 15 month it is very much stagnant in terms of message count and participation. It is not growing and dropping members as fast as it gets them. I believe this group has overgrown the optimal size about a year ago and needs to be divided in more focused smaller groups. My mail box get 100+ messages a day on all kinds of topic - unless I can spend 30+ minutes that day to sort them out it goes directly into garbage can. Most people in the company unsubscribed from it 18 month ago. Most of veteran developers I know either unsubscribed or stopped looking in this mess greatly diminishing the quality of the responses. As a result group mostly host new developers and looses most of experienced ones after very short period of time. Further delay of breaking this group hinders usefulness of the group for all of us as now we have significant amount of users that are being forced out. I believe it is time to archive flexcoders and branch (12?) targeted new user groups I would like to see people suggesting user subgroups and WiKi topics for Flex community site to go with each group - providing best posts
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
- FlexCodersAnnouncements - FlexCodersRemoteServices - FlexCodersUserExperience - FlexCodersBestPractices --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drop actionscriptcoders and rename enterprise to RPC (or FlexRemoting or something), and I'm in. 95% of funky flex question are actionscript questions - unless it's an advanced actionscript list for things like VM internals stuff, in which case case perhaps it just needs a name change. Everybody likes to think what they're doing is enterprise. What we're doing definitely counts (Oracle *loves* us), but we're all SOAP - we don't use LCDS at all, so if people think enterprise is mainly for LCDS stuff we're going to get confusion. Didn't know about ApolloCoders, I think I'll go subscribe :) Definitely like the idea of an announce list, it could be moderated or you could subscribe to it as a daily / weekly digest. -Josh On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Existing - FlexCoders - FlexComponents - ApolloCoders - FlexJobs New - EnterpriseFlex - FlexUIDesign - FlexAnnouncements - ActionscriptCoders ? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailinglists@ wrote: 1. 101 Is creating a new group for this necessary or is flexcoders already handling this? 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) The name seems too abstract, what area are we targeting? Is is to show off new ideas or syntax questions. 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) Love it! Can we replace UI with UX : ) 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks Does this include WebOrb/Blaze/LCDS ? 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks Apollocoders exists. not sure what the traffic is like. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: That's not a bad list of categories at all Anatole. It would be best if there's still some sort of (read-only?) meta-list that shows all messages, and if it were smart enough that you could read the all list and replies went to the correct lists it'd be a pretty good common ground I think. I'm no mailing-list-guy though, so no idea if that's feasible. -Josh On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky anatole.tartakovsky@ wrote: Matt, Splitting the last 500 topics in groups it would be: 1. 101 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks there Thank you Anatole Tartakovsky Farata Systems On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:t Practices/Frameworks I do think 12 is way too high a number BTW. Would recommend capping at 5 absolute max. On 6/16/08 8:28 PM, Matt Chotin mchotin@mchotin%40adobe.com wrote: Hey guys, If you think that splitting the lists is the right thing to do for the larger community then I'm not going to stop you. I think we were right in the past to recommend against the split, but I can see Anatole's point that traffic has stagnated and we'd certainly like the community to thrive. We'll certainly try to pay attention to as much as possible (not like it's me doing much but you know some Adobe folks are quite active), but no guarantees on how it will go. The Adobe forums themselves are definitely lacking, primarily because we can't access them via email. There is a project going on within Adobe to improve the experience drastically, and we definitely intend to split forums there (and hopefully convince everyone to come back over and move away from Yahoo Groups); but it's still a number of months away at the earliest. I would hope that folks will continue to help users of all levels, and we'll need moderators to handle whatever new lists are created. Matt On 6/16/08 8:17 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailinglists@bjorn.mailinglists%40gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of splitting topics into different lists. I also like Anatole's suggestions for list types. Flexcoders has become to over-bloated.. I would be in favour for looking at topics that I'm interested in. Perhaps this will get more of the experienced contributors back on the list. Imagine if OSFlash had only one mailing list. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comflexcoders% 40yahoogroups.com mailto: flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com flexcoders%2540yahoogroups.commailto: flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com flexcoders
[flexcoders] Re: Splitting FlexCoders in smaller, focused groups
Now, how do we go about some sort of process to see what kind of support there is on the list? A corresponding wordpress blog/website for each list updated with info by the moderators and contributors. It wouldn't have to be an InsideRIA style blog, just info relating to the list. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like it :) FlexCodersBestPractices could be a very useful forum. Although there might be some crossover between UserExperience and the existing FlexComponents list? Now, how do we go about some sort of process to see what kind of support there is on the list? Also, if we don't have the support of the Adobe cats that post here, the idea is definitely dead in the water. They're a *big* help and have the kind of inside information that takes the rest of us quite a while to replicate :) -Josh On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - FlexCodersAnnouncements - FlexCodersRemoteServices - FlexCodersUserExperience - FlexCodersBestPractices --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: Drop actionscriptcoders and rename enterprise to RPC (or FlexRemoting or something), and I'm in. 95% of funky flex question are actionscript questions - unless it's an advanced actionscript list for things like VM internals stuff, in which case case perhaps it just needs a name change. Everybody likes to think what they're doing is enterprise. What we're doing definitely counts (Oracle *loves* us), but we're all SOAP - we don't use LCDS at all, so if people think enterprise is mainly for LCDS stuff we're going to get confusion. Didn't know about ApolloCoders, I think I'll go subscribe :) Definitely like the idea of an announce list, it could be moderated or you could subscribe to it as a daily / weekly digest. -Josh On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailinglists@ wrote: Existing - FlexCoders - FlexComponents - ApolloCoders - FlexJobs New - EnterpriseFlex - FlexUIDesign - FlexAnnouncements - ActionscriptCoders ? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comflexcoders% 40yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailinglists@ wrote: 1. 101 Is creating a new group for this necessary or is flexcoders already handling this? 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) The name seems too abstract, what area are we targeting? Is is to show off new ideas or syntax questions. 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) Love it! Can we replace UI with UX : ) 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks Does this include WebOrb/Blaze/LCDS ? 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks Apollocoders exists. not sure what the traffic is like. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald dznuts@ wrote: That's not a bad list of categories at all Anatole. It would be best if there's still some sort of (read-only?) meta-list that shows all messages, and if it were smart enough that you could read the all list and replies went to the correct lists it'd be a pretty good common ground I think. I'm no mailing-list-guy though, so no idea if that's feasible. -Josh On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky anatole.tartakovsky@ wrote: Matt, Splitting the last 500 topics in groups it would be: 1. 101 2. Coding (AS3/MXML) 3. Design and UI ( Flash/Components/CSS/Skin) 4. Enterprise/Best Practices/Frameworks 5. AIR - not big yet, but definitely a separate group of folks there Thank you Anatole Tartakovsky Farata Systems On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:t Practices/Frameworks I do think 12 is way too high a number BTW. Would recommend capping at 5 absolute max. On 6/16/08 8:28 PM, Matt Chotin mchotin@mchotin%40adobe.com wrote: Hey guys, If you think that splitting the lists is the right thing to do for the larger community then I'm not going to stop you. I think we were right in the past to recommend against the split, but I can see Anatole's point that traffic has stagnated and we'd certainly like the community to thrive. We'll certainly try to pay attention to as much as possible (not like it's me doing much but you know some Adobe folks are quite active), but no guarantees on how it will go. The Adobe forums
Re: [flexcoders] Re: closing and reopening windows in Air App
how are you closing it?
On 16/06/2008, at 9:00 AM, Omar Fouad wrote:
Why no one is answering?
On 6/13/08, Omar Fouad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi list,
I got a small application that opens a window.
I used another mxml (AboutWindow.mxml) file that has
mx:WIndowBla bla
blamx:WIndow/ in it.
In the Main mxml file I have a button and when I click to this
button I
open() it by:
private var AboutWin:AboutWindow = new AboutWindow();
pivate function ShowAboutWindow():void {
AboutWIn.open();
}
This works great, when I click the button in the main Application
the
AboutWin Shows, and When I close it, it closes perfectly. But if I
re-click
the Icon again the AboutWin would not open again.
Is there something that I am missing?
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex Css Html Css
Have you seen degrafa? You can do all this via CSS. http://blog.benstucki.net/?p=46 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Well.. you can't really unless you create a custom skin. There are some open source stuff out there that allows you to use a background repeat algorithm. There is no background position styles either. So really, what you want to do cannot be done with Flex3 css. Mike On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:27 AM, xaero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then How can I set the page's background like in the HTML Css? That is: background-repeat: repeat-x; background-PositionX: left; background-PositionY: bottom; --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Schmalle teoti.graphix@ wrote: No, you can't do this. Flex CSS is not 'real' css and does not conform to WC3. Mike -- Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigraphix.com Teoti Graphix Blog http://www.blog.teotigraphix.com You can find more by solving the problem then by 'asking the question'.
Re: [flexcoders] dragMoveEnabled: sometimes move/sometimes copy?
Hmm, I tried this - but I don't see that fixing anything since I don't
specify COPY anywhere ..
private function onImageDragOver( event:DragEvent ):void
{
trace(onImageDragOver...);
event.preventDefault();
DragManager.acceptDragDrop(this.imageTileList);
}
2008/6/4 Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Get dragOver events, call preventDefault() on the event, call
DragManager.acceptDragDrop with the right information
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*Subject:* [flexcoders] dragMoveEnabled: sometimes move/sometimes copy?
I have a TileList which contains draggable elements and has
dragMoveEnabled. This works fine, however, I have one problem. The thing is
that I need to be able to remove them from the drag source in some cases and
not remove them in some cases, based on the drop target (and not user
keyboard interaction).
How do I accomplish this behaviour?
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[flexcoders] Re: Sandbox violation running from Builder. How did I get this and how do I fix it?
Are you sure its not a security settings related issue.. www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager04.html --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Rick Winscot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also. where is the project 'physically' located? I would strongly recommend making sure that the project is inside your workspace. Are there any compiler options like -use-network=false present? Rick Winscot From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracy Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:03 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Sandbox violation running from Builder. How did I get this and how do I fix it? Very strange. There was a similar thread a couple days ago and we did not find a solution, as far as I know. Did you create the new project by don't New Project and then copying in the files, or did you import the other project? (the first, I know, but maybe try the second?) Maybe try removing the application from the project's application list and then re-adding it? Tracy _ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh McDonald Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:42 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Sandbox violation running from Builder. How did I get this and how do I fix it? I've checked out a project into the same directory as all my other projects, and now I'm getting a security sandbox violation trying to load a local file even when running from Flex. What could cause this? And how do I get it back to behaving the way it should for all builder projects? -J -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] dragMoveEnabled: sometimes move/sometimes copy?
I have a TileList which contains draggable elements and has dragMoveEnabled. This works fine, however, I have one problem. The thing is that I need to be able to remove them from the drag source in some cases and not remove them in some cases, based on the drop target (and not user keyboard interaction). How do I accomplish this behaviour? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
Re: [flexcoders] Problem editing custom object in DataGrid (itemEditEnd method, cannot get data)
There it was :-) .. thanks a lot Alex.
Just in case anyone has the similar problems, my itemEditEnd listener looks
like this now:
/**
* Called when the user has edited an answer
*/
private function onAnswerEditEnd(ev:DataGridEvent):void
{
var answerGrid:DataGrid = DataGrid(ev.target);
var ans:Answer = answerGrid.selectedItem as Answer;
ans.answer.text = TextInput(answerGrid.itemEditorInstance).text;
ev.preventDefault(); // make sure the event doesn't reach the
datagrid
this.answerGrid.destroyItemEditor(); // stop editing
}
2008/5/20 Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
itemEditorInstance.text?
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*Subject:* [flexcoders] Problem editing custom object in DataGrid
(itemEditEnd method, cannot get data)
Hi, I've created a MultiLanguageString object which contain an array of
language codes and text value (e.g. [en] = Hello, [de] = Guten tag etc.)
When editing in a DataGrid you always see the current selected language
since MultiLanguageString's toString() method returns the internal arr[
currentLanguageCode ] text.
However, on edit end I got this error saying String cannot be converted to
MultiLanguageString (Type Coercion failed), so I figgured I'd have to create
my own itemEditEnd listener and prevent the vent from reaching the dataGrid
there.
This works fine.
However, I'm unable to get the data somehow (all I get is the original
data, unedited) .. I see DataGrid uses the event.itemRenderer.data, but when
I look that up I only see the old data. Same for all other properties on the
event which contains the data.
Should I take a different route here or is it solvable this way?
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[flexcoders] Problem editing custom object in DataGrid (itemEditEnd method, cannot get data)
Hi, I've created a MultiLanguageString object which contain an array of language codes and text value (e.g. [en] = Hello, [de] = Guten tag etc.) When editing in a DataGrid you always see the current selected language since MultiLanguageString's toString() method returns the internal arr[ currentLanguageCode ] text. However, on edit end I got this error saying String cannot be converted to MultiLanguageString (Type Coercion failed), so I figgured I'd have to create my own itemEditEnd listener and prevent the vent from reaching the dataGrid there. This works fine. However, I'm unable to get the data somehow (all I get is the original data, unedited) .. I see DataGrid uses the event.itemRenderer.data, but when I look that up I only see the old data. Same for all other properties on the event which contains the data. Should I take a different route here or is it solvable this way? -- http://www.juicability.com - flex blog http://www.43min.com - funny movies
[flexcoders] Re: Flash Player 10 is in prerelease!
http://blog.tengerstudio.com/2008/05/16/flash-player-10-class-browser/ --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, VELO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any word on API? VELO On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a new api to play with? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Gordon Smith gosmith@ wrote: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ Gordon Smith Adobe Flex SDK Team
[flexcoders] Re: Flash Player 10 is in prerelease!
Is there a new api to play with? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ Gordon Smith Adobe Flex SDK Team
[flexcoders] Re: Classes defined in MXML - are they dynamic? Can they be?
In run into this problem once with the array class back in the day. I changed a var from ArrayCollection to Array and had over 100 errors that were not caught at compile time since the Array is dynamic. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO, dynamic is quicksand for consumers of your framework. One mis-typed property name and you'll spend hours sloshing around trying to find it. I wrote a ton of AS code for the Flash MX 2004 components and the dynamic nature was a real pain in the ass. It was a huge step forward to go back to working with stricter languages. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh McDonald Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:08 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Classes defined in MXML - are they dynamic? Can they be? Thanks for that. Yeah it's not something I'm planning on doing right now, I'm just sort of thinking out loud about a framework I really need to get off my ass and write in my spare time :) And I'm just growing ideas as to how I go about it. -J On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Alex Harui [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are not dynamic by default. I'm not sure if there is a way to make them dynamic. IMHO, it is not a recommended practice, and there is usually some other way. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Josh McDonald Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:41 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Classes defined in MXML - are they dynamic? Can they be? Like I'm an unpopular Digger, Title says it all. -J -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[flexcoders] Re: Memory leak in UIDUtil.createUID()
I hope not.
I'm using it everywhere!
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, shlomic_thailand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
i ran the following simple application in flex builder 3 profiler
and found that this method (createUID) is leaking memory.
looking at its content seems its ok - any ideas
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml;
layout=absolute
mx:Script
![CDATA[
import mx.utils.UIDUtil;
import mx.collections.ArrayCollection;
private function onCC():void{
var s:String = UIDUtil.createUID();
}
]]
/mx:Script
mx:Button click=onCC() label=clickme
/mx:Button
/mx:Application
[flexcoders] shared code issue
I'm getting this error
TypeError: Error #1034: Type Coercion failed: cannot convert
com.qmecom.common.events::[EMAIL PROTECTED] to
com.qmecom.common.events.UploadAssetsModuleEvent.
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
i'm loading a shared code module before this error occurs.
var m:IModuleInfo = ModuleManager.getModule(sharedCodeModule_url);
m.addEventListener(ModuleEvent.READY,
function (event:ModuleEvent):void
{
trace('READY');
I'm importing my class into my shared code module.
private var uploadAssetsModuleEvent:UploadAssetsModuleEvent;
What have I missed here
The debugging for these types of problems is lacking severely!
[flexcoders] Re: shared code issue
my bad..
shared code module wasn't compiling due to a weird compiler error.
it wasn't displaying in my problems panel for some reason.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Schultheiss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm getting this error
TypeError: Error #1034: Type Coercion failed: cannot convert
com.qmecom.common.events::[EMAIL PROTECTED] to
com.qmecom.common.events.UploadAssetsModuleEvent.
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
i'm loading a shared code module before this error occurs.
var m:IModuleInfo = ModuleManager.getModule(sharedCodeModule_url);
m.addEventListener(ModuleEvent.READY,
function (event:ModuleEvent):void
{
trace('READY');
I'm importing my class into my shared code module.
private var uploadAssetsModuleEvent:UploadAssetsModuleEvent;
What have I missed here
The debugging for these types of problems is lacking severely!
[flexcoders] Re: Help with Module strategy
Whether the figures are correct or not i don't see how it affects your modular decision. Framework caching will only effect the size of your shell not your modules. If your modules are optimized for your shell they will not include the framework classes used by the shell. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rodseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After doing a bit of analysis, it doesn't seem that modules are appropriate for me, without framework caching. The monolithic app is currently 539K. An individual module containing charts, optimized for the monolithic app is 275K. Optimized for an empty app it's 382K. Not optimized, it's 624K. Since 5 or so modules will be loaded, the experience is likely to be a step backward, unless I can consolidate charts somehow, as Rick alluded to, or enable framework caching. Can someone please confirm or correct the following: - Player 9 is around 97% penentration, but 9.0.115 is only around 61% - If I enable caching, the app will still work (albeit slowly) on older players - The user won't know to update to 9.0.115 unless I build the app to require it - However, using expressInstall, the upgrade to 9.0.115 would be seamless - [??? any issues around localization ???] - Richard On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Richard Rodseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose a broad description would be business intelligence/dashboard/reporting. It's true that for a fixed set of reports or charts the main app swf can be updated and no modules are required, but runtime configuration seems like an inevitable direction. The main wrinkle mentioned in my original post is the desire to extract individual reports as separate entities. Again, the build system could simply build a distinct swf application for each one, so I realize that modules are not absolutely needed. The strategy I describe (same host for 1 or many modules) allows me to defer the RSL/caching stuff and optimize the modules for that single host, but doesn't preclude a switch to portable modules in future. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Rick Winscot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly is it that you are trying to extenensify? You don't have to give up the secret sauce - but with a little more info maybe ideas will start to flow? Modules are great for portability and system extension that is true... but modules for modules sake of themselves extensibility do not make. What's the rubble? Rick Winscot -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Rodseth Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:57 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Help with Module strategy Rick, I know about Degrafa and might use it for some gauges, but I've been pretty happy with Adobe's charting library. I would say that at this stage my motive for modules is extensibility rather than file size or even memory usage. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Rick Winscot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you considered writing some of your libraries as ActionScript (only) libraries? Just a thought though. at the point you realize that things are getting a little 'too big and un-tamed' it is almost too late. My father always said, only cry once. Meaning - if you want a G.I. Joe with kung-fooBAR grip. Don't settle for 10 Malibu Ken dolls with pasted on peach-fuzz beards. Get out your lawn mower and mow a few extra laws, baby sit until you puke, and buy stock in Red Bull. If you only cry once. and pay the price up front you will save untold hours of refactoring bits and pieces to get things working. About your chart dilemma - consider consolidating like chart types. Generalizing an interface to facilitate repurposing is smart and means that each one of your little chart dudes isn't the size, or greater, of the Flex chart library. Additionally - becoming proficient in primitive drawing could be much more valuable that using 'canned controls.' Take a look http://www.degrafa.com/ add a dash of creative thinking and you could dump charts. come up with a framework for reporting that is boot-licking delicious. Rick Winscot From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:56 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Help with Module strategy - the charts are in modules, optimized for the single host This sounds the most reasonable. If the modules need to be loaded into another shell they can be re-compiled for that purpose. I have each module in its own project and run the deploy build via ant. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rodseth rrodseth@ wrote: I'd appreciate some input on my module strategy. I'm working on a charting application with a requirement that individual charts be embeddable
[flexcoders] Re: Modules the way to go?
unloading the module does not guarantee it will cleaned up by Garbage
Collection.
You can use the Profiler to assist you see what has be collected by GC
and what hasn't.
Grant Skinner wrote a 3 part article on this explaining the details.
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2006/06/as3_resource_ma.html
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The crashing of the explorer is due to the amount of load in memory.
It's not a Flex Error in the white box at the top left form.
We load the modules this way:
public function createModule ( url : String ) : void
{
var panel : Panel = new Panel();
var module : IModuleInfo = ModuleManager.getModule( url
);
module.addEventListener( ModuleEvent.READY,
function moduleReadyHandler ( event :
ModuleEvent ) : void
{
var view : UIComponent =
module.factory.create() as UIComponent;
view.x = 0;
view.y = 0;
view.percentHeight = 100;
view.percentWidth = 100;
panel.addChild( view );
module.removeEventListener(
ModuleEvent.READY,
moduleReadyHandler );
}
);
module.load ( );
}
and the unload is done this way:
public function closeModule ( url : String ) : void
{
var module : IModuleInfo = ModuleManager.getModule( url
);
module.unload();
}
It's simple... basic... Am I missing something?
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gregor Kiddie gkiddie@ wrote:
How are you unloading the modules? We've found that its relatively
tough
to get a module garbage collected given the amount of references
usually
flying round the place!
Also, have you debugged the app to find out exactly what is happening
when the crashing behaviour occurs? It might be more straightforward
then you think.
Gk.
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Daniel
Sent: 06 May 2008 22:15
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Modules the way to go?
40 modules running at the same time with no issues?
God... That's an accomplishment... Does RAM and processor have
something to do with it? Our test computers are running on 1GB RAM,
and most have Flex Builder opened at a time...
The desktop manager load the modules per user request... The same for
unloading them... The module loaders are childs of a panel that can be
draggable and resizable, with a maximize and a close button... So if
the user choose to open N modules at the same, N modules will be
displayed...
A problem might be that by rule, the modules have tons of bindings...
Each component have at least one binding to it's correspondent value
in the modelLocator, and each component that have a dataProvider have
at one more binding... This bindings are not being set to unwatch
after the modules are unloaded... Could this be the issue that is
overloading the application and crashing the browser?
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
, Bjorn Schultheiss
bjorn.mailinglists@ wrote:
Any external swf you load can crash your app.
It's a really big issue with the player at the moment.
From my experience Modules provide you a good basis for multi-swf
architecture with Flex.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Gregor Kiddie gkiddie@
wrote:
I won't develop the modules
Well, that's your biggest problem, without being able to
control the
modules, you can't guarantee the behaviour. It's quite possible if
one
misbehaves it could lock your app up.
If I have several small modules opened (say 6 to 10, each of
20K to
60K size), they shouldnt crash or overload the browser
[flexcoders] Re: Help with Module strategy
- the charts are in modules, optimized for the single host This sounds the most reasonable. If the modules need to be loaded into another shell they can be re-compiled for that purpose. I have each module in its own project and run the deploy build via ant. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Richard Rodseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate some input on my module strategy. I'm working on a charting application with a requirement that individual charts be embeddable as widgets on arbitrary pages. I already have the bulk of the code in libraries, so have some freedom to explore different packaging. I had originally thought that it would make sense to create a module for each chart, and two separate hosts, one main application and one widget host. I understand that I would have to use RSLs and framework caching to keep the module size down. Frankly, I'm a little wary of that given the time constraints, and also because it depends on the later player. Another approach was to just build a different application SWF for each widget and modularize only when the main app becomes too large. Now I am considering the following: - the host is a single SWF with two states (widget and full). It loads either one, or several modules based on runtime config - the charts are in modules, optimized for the single host - the single app and multiple modules are in one project, so I can optimize for that app in Flexbuilder (though we do have continuous integration set up too) The only downside I can think of is that if the full state of the app has a lot of code besides the module code, the size of the widget download will be larger than it needs to be. On the other hand, it would allow the full app to be embedded as a widget, since the UX would be determined at runtime. And I suppose the full host state could itself be modularized. Comments? Thanks in advance.
