Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-21 Thread Burt
I am 67 years old and I haven't used my car in a week, too much technology. I 
bike.I never expected my Flex to last more than 10 years because of it 
association with Windows.
However I never thought it would be done in by lack of a case. It would seem 
that someone could be found to do it reasonably, but I am not the expert in 
these matters.
A local station did not maintain its tower and it went over in a hurricane and 
damaged the building, however they really wanted to get a new building and with 
the insurance money they did.
Is it a stretch to think Flex wanted to end the 5000 and found an excuse to do 
it? 
I don't blame them if they did, they are trying to make money selling to 
700,000 Jack Bennys, I don't know how anyone makes money selling to hams 
(except maybe food vendors?).
By the way I make Jack Benny look like a big spender (except when it comes to 
KA1VBQ)


--- On Tue, 5/21/13, Bill Marvin  wrote:



Burt,
I believe that the more basic a technology, the longer it will work. I have
a 100 year old shovel that still works very effectively.
Emerging technology tends to short lived. Do you still use the PC you
purchased 15 years ago? That PC was very expensive for what you got compared
to what the same money will buy today. If the relatively short life span of
emerging technology is unacceptable to you, you should avoid it. Eventually
FlexRadio type SDR rigs will be the norm and the price will come down
accordingly. Look at things like microwave ovens, VCRs, and DVD players. The
first models on the market were expensive and big clunky devices.

Personally, my DX-100 resides only a few feet away from my Flex-5000A. I
plan on using both for a long time to come. 

73,
Bill - W1LLY


-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Burt
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: a...@aol.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; K9DURRay
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

In your opinion when will the 5000 be gone effectively from the scene?
My DX-40 still useful after 60 years as is my Viking Ranger
 
 





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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-21 Thread radioart
My sentiments as well

Dennis KØEOO



- Original Message -
From: "Bill Tynan" 
To: "Larry Otto" 
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:30:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

Larry:

From what I heard Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR, CEO of Flex Radio at the Flex 
dinner at Dayton Saturday evening, the part is the chassis/cabinet a complex 
extruded aluminum product. He said that the supplier would provide more if 
Flex would order 1000. So you can see that it would not be logical to 
continue production of the 5000 under that circumstance.

As a 5000 owner I am sorry to see this happen, but understand it. Gerald 
said that they have parts to continue servicing the 5000 and would continue 
with software updates. After all, they still produce the 1500 and 3000 which 
use Power SDR.

Times change. After all, they don't produce the 1000 anymore but continue to 
support it.

I have found Flex Radio very good on service and help, even on products they 
don't sell, like VAC.

So, I'm sticking with them.

73,

Bill Tynan, W3XO

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From: "Larry Otto" 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:38 PM
To: "FlexRadio Reflector" 
Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

> OK -
>
> Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of 
> "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive 
> "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
>
> Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available 
> for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also 
> become unavailable?
>
> Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
>
> 73
>
> W8LO
> Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-21 Thread Bill Tynan

Larry:

From what I heard Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR, CEO of Flex Radio at the Flex 
dinner at Dayton Saturday evening, the part is the chassis/cabinet a complex 
extruded aluminum product. He said that the supplier would provide more if 
Flex would order 1000. So you can see that it would not be logical to 
continue production of the 5000 under that circumstance.


As a 5000 owner I am sorry to see this happen, but understand it. Gerald 
said that they have parts to continue servicing the 5000 and would continue 
with software updates. After all, they still produce the 1500 and 3000 which 
use Power SDR.


Times change. After all, they don't produce the 1000 anymore but continue to 
support it.


I have found Flex Radio very good on service and help, even on products they 
don't sell, like VAC.


So, I'm sticking with them.

73,

Bill Tynan, W3XO

--
From: "Larry Otto" 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:38 PM
To: "FlexRadio Reflector" 
Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories


OK -

Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of 
"parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive 
"part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?


Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available 
for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also 
become unavailable?


Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.

73

W8LO
Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-21 Thread Lee Mushel
Things are beginning to make sense!  I just measured it and can tell you 
that my AT-1 (but not used and don't know where the crystals are) is 61-1/2 
inches away from my 5000A !  And, yes, both are held in extremely high 
regard around here !


73

Lee  K9WRU
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Marvin" 

> Personally, my DX-100 resides only a few feet away from my Flex-5000A. I

plan on using both for a long time to come.

73,
Bill - W1LLY


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From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of 
Burt

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: a...@aol.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; K9DURRay
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

In your opinion when will the 5000 be gone effectively from the scene?
My DX-40 still useful after 60 years as is my Viking Ranger








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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-21 Thread Bill Marvin
Burt,
I believe that the more basic a technology, the longer it will work. I have
a 100 year old shovel that still works very effectively.
Emerging technology tends to short lived. Do you still use the PC you
purchased 15 years ago? That PC was very expensive for what you got compared
to what the same money will buy today. If the relatively short life span of
emerging technology is unacceptable to you, you should avoid it. Eventually
FlexRadio type SDR rigs will be the norm and the price will come down
accordingly. Look at things like microwave ovens, VCRs, and DVD players. The
first models on the market were expensive and big clunky devices.

Personally, my DX-100 resides only a few feet away from my Flex-5000A. I
plan on using both for a long time to come. 

73,
Bill - W1LLY


-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Burt
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: a...@aol.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; K9DURRay
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

In your opinion when will the 5000 be gone effectively from the scene?
My DX-40 still useful after 60 years as is my Viking Ranger
 
 






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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-20 Thread ab4d
Ray, 

I believe Burt posted the question, "when will the 5000 be gone effectively 
from the scene." Nevertheless, I agree with you that Flex continues to support 
the 5000a and that is good for all of us. 

My earlier post was in response to the posts that seem to pronounce the 
instantaneous death of the 5000a.  IMO, that could be farther from the truth.  
Even when the day arrives, that Flex stops supporting the 5000a, the rig will 
continue to work just fine for those that own one. Just like a lot of other 
vintage rigs.

73. Jim



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On May 20, 2013, at 6:59 PM, "Ray, K9DUR"  wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> You asked, "In your opinion when will the 5000 be gone effectively from the
> scene?"
> 
> I am not that good at seeing into the future, but I can say the following:
> 
> 1.)  PowerSDR is still going to be developed since it is still needed for
> the FLEX-1500 & FLEX-3000.  As long as PowerSDR is an active development
> project, the FLEX-5000 will still be improved.
> 
> 2.)  PowerSDR development will not go away until Flex discontinues both the
> FLEX-1500 & FLEX-3000.  That is not going to happen in the foreseeable
> future.  To quote someone who is in the know, "The FLEX-1500 is selling like
> hotcakes."  Also Flex needs a product in the $1500-$1700 class.  Therefore
> the future of both radios seems to be assured.
> 
> 3.)  Even when PowerSDR development comes to an end, the FLEX-5000 will
> remain a useable radio as long as you can maintain a computer that can run
> PowerSDR.
> 
> So, the answer to your question hangs on your definition of "effectively"
> and on factors (such as PC availability) that are outside of Flex's control.
> I would guess that it is many years away.
> 
> 73, Ray, K9DUR
> http://k9dur.info
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-20 Thread Ray, K9DUR
Jim,

You asked, "In your opinion when will the 5000 be gone effectively from the
scene?"

I am not that good at seeing into the future, but I can say the following:

1.)  PowerSDR is still going to be developed since it is still needed for
the FLEX-1500 & FLEX-3000.  As long as PowerSDR is an active development
project, the FLEX-5000 will still be improved.

2.)  PowerSDR development will not go away until Flex discontinues both the
FLEX-1500 & FLEX-3000.  That is not going to happen in the foreseeable
future.  To quote someone who is in the know, "The FLEX-1500 is selling like
hotcakes."  Also Flex needs a product in the $1500-$1700 class.  Therefore
the future of both radios seems to be assured.

3.)  Even when PowerSDR development comes to an end, the FLEX-5000 will
remain a useable radio as long as you can maintain a computer that can run
PowerSDR.

So, the answer to your question hangs on your definition of "effectively"
and on factors (such as PC availability) that are outside of Flex's control.
I would guess that it is many years away.

73, Ray, K9DUR
http://k9dur.info




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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-20 Thread Burt
In your opinion when will the 5000 be gone effectively from the scene?
My DX-40 still useful after 60 years as is my Viking Ranger
 
 On Mon, 5/20/13, Ray, K9DUR  wrote:




Jim,

You wrote, "There are many vintage stations still on the air today.  I don't 
see the Flex 5000a being any different."

It is very different in that while you can no longer buy new hardware, Flex 
will continue to support (and improve) the existing 5000's with new releases of 
PowerSDR.  You can't say that about discontinued radios from other 
manufacturers.

73, Ray, K9DUR
http://k9dur.info



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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-20 Thread Ray, K9DUR
Jim,

You wrote, "There are many vintage stations still on the air today.  I don't 
see the Flex 5000a being any different."

It is very different in that while you can no longer buy new hardware, Flex 
will continue to support (and improve) the existing 5000's with new releases of 
PowerSDR.  You can't say that about discontinued radios from other 
manufacturers.

73, Ray, K9DUR
http://k9dur.info



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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-20 Thread ab4d

I agree. I don't understand the uncertainty about owning a 5000a.  IMO it's 
just like most other transceivers.  They continue to work long after 
manufacturers have stopped production and support.  There are many vintage 
stations still on the air today.  I don't see the Flex 5000a being any 
different.  It's still a very good radio, and on the used market a bargin.

Jim, AB4D

-Original Message-
From: radioart 
To: Samuel Strongin 
Cc: FlexRadio Reflector 
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories


Come on guys, the part is for the cabinet  All our 500A's already have 
abinets so we're SAFE!!!  Flex will SUPPORT the 5000A for as long as they can 
ust like Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood
Dennis KØEOO

ennis KØEOO

- Original Message -
rom: "Samuel Strongin" 
o: "Larry Otto" , "FlexRadio Reflector" 
flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
ent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:41:57 PM
ubject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
  Up the creek without a paddle !!   Sam kf4yox
-Original Message- 
rom: Larry Otto
ent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
o: FlexRadio Reflector
ubject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
OK -
Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of 
parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive 
part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available 
or the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also 
ecome unavailable?
Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
73
W8LO
arry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-20 Thread radioart
Come on guys, the part is for the cabinet  All our 500A's already have 
cabinets so we're SAFE!!!  Flex will SUPPORT the 5000A for as long as they can 
just like Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood

Dennis KØEOO


Dennis KØEOO



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From: "Samuel Strongin" 
To: "Larry Otto" , "FlexRadio Reflector" 

Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:41:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

  Up the creek without a paddle !!   Sam kf4yox

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Otto
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

OK -

Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of 
"parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive 
"part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?

Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available 
for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also 
become unavailable?

Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.

73

W8LO
Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-20 Thread Burt

Both chassis are available on Ebay and I bought a S-76 replacement chassis a 
year ago.
Both fully functioning units are in my shack 60 years after manufacter.
You think ANYONE will have a functioning Flex 5000 in 15 years?
If Flex supports the 5000 for 10 more years that is all I could expect, do you 
think they will?
What does Collins have to do with this? The S-76 is Hallicrafters.

--- On Sun, 5/19/13, Michael Hasenfratz  wrote:





When was the last time you could buy a replacement chassis for you S-76 or 
DX-40?

Can somebody tell me how long the S-76 was available from Collins a new rig?

Michael Hasenfratz

Light travels faster than sound.
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

On May 19, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Burt  wrote:

> When I bought my Flex 5000 in 2008, I figured it would be unable to be 
> supported by 2018.
> I never thought the least technological part would be its demise.
> I knew it would never be around as long as my DX-40 and S-76 (60 years).
> It would seem rather than remove the 5000 from the web site, a bit of class 
> would have been
> an announcement officially of what apparently has dribbled out.
> --- On Sun, 5/19/13, Neal Campbell  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Come on guys, lets not dish out Fear Uncertainty and Doubt! The "parts"
> that they cannot get is the case and its nt that they cannot get them but
> that the manufacturer now demands a minimum quantity that is way to large
> for the anticipated sales or is too expensive in smaller quantities to be
> realistically feasible!
> 
> They will continue to repair and service the 5000 just like they do the
> SDR1000 today.
> 
> 73
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal LLC
> 
> HUGE DAYTON CELEBRATION SALE!!
> Time to get the guaranteed setup for your SDR!
> Now until end-May
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Samuel Strongin wrote:
> 
>>   Up the creek without a paddle !!   Sam kf4yox
>> 
>> -----Original Message- From: Larry Otto
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
>> To: FlexRadio Reflector
>> Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>> 
>> 
>> OK -
>> 
>> Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of
>> "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive
>> "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
>> 
>> Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available
>> for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also
>> become unavailable?
>> 
>> Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> W8LO
>> Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Michael Hasenfratz
When was the last time you could buy a replacement chassis for you S-76 or 
DX-40?

Can somebody tell me how long the S-76 was available from Collins a new rig?

Michael Hasenfratz

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This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

On May 19, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Burt  wrote:

> When I bought my Flex 5000 in 2008, I figured it would be unable to be 
> supported by 2018.
> I never thought the least technological part would be its demise.
> I knew it would never be around as long as my DX-40 and S-76 (60 years).
> It would seem rather than remove the 5000 from the web site, a bit of class 
> would have been
> an announcement officially of what apparently has dribbled out.
> --- On Sun, 5/19/13, Neal Campbell  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Come on guys, lets not dish out Fear Uncertainty and Doubt! The "parts"
> that they cannot get is the case and its nt that they cannot get them but
> that the manufacturer now demands a minimum quantity that is way to large
> for the anticipated sales or is too expensive in smaller quantities to be
> realistically feasible!
> 
> They will continue to repair and service the 5000 just like they do the
> SDR1000 today.
> 
> 73
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal LLC
> 
> HUGE DAYTON CELEBRATION SALE!!
> Time to get the guaranteed setup for your SDR!
> Now until end-May
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Samuel Strongin wrote:
> 
>>   Up the creek without a paddle !!   Sam kf4yox
>> 
>> -----Original Message- From: Larry Otto
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
>> To: FlexRadio Reflector
>> Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>> 
>> 
>> OK -
>> 
>> Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of
>> "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive
>> "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
>> 
>> Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available
>> for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also
>> become unavailable?
>> 
>> Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> W8LO
>> Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Jim Cox
Like all decisions in the business community, the bottom  line is the 
deciding factor.  I suspect sales of the 5000 have dropped because of the 
6000 series and would be be more when they are delivered.  Just not that 
much difference between a fully loaded 5000 and the 6500 especially when you 
consider the cost of a newly tooled cabinet would run the cost of the 5000 
up even more.   Jim K4JAF


-Original Message- 
From: Edwin Marzan

Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:58 PM
To: Larry Otto ; bow...@whbowen.com ; Jim Jannuzzo
Cc: flexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

And one day the 6500 and 6700 will be obsolete and discontinued.  It is 
inevitable. We should not be surprised at the demise of the Flex 5000A. 
Someone had mentioned that Flex had just scratched the surface of what the 
Flex 5000A was capable of. I guess now we'll never know of its full 
potential...



From: w...@embarqmail.com
To: bow...@whbowen.com; jsqu...@msn.com
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 18:32:31 -0400
CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

Thanks everyone for your help.

For some reason I had it in my mind it was an electrical component.

Looks like we would be ok for the future.  Guess I can now sell my Yaesu
Mark V.

73
W8LO
Larry
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Jim Jannuzzo" 
Cc: "Flex Radio List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories


> Jim,
>
>  The unavailability of the cabinet from the present vendor is only part
> of the problem: the bigger issue is the "collateral effects" if Flex
> changes vendors for that part, which make it uneconomical to continue
> production.
>
> 73,
> Bill Bowen
> K8WHB
>
>> ---- Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>> From: Jim Jannuzzo 
>> Date: Sun, May 19, 2013 5:03 pm
>> To: Larry Otto , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"
>> 
>>
>>
>> The cabinet is reported to be the unavailable part.  Anyone who can 
>> wear

>> out their cabinet should consider owning more than one radio.
>> Jim KJ2P
>>
>> > From: w...@embarqmail.com
>> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>> > Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 16:38:56 -0400
>> > Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>> >
>> > OK -
>> >
>> > Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of
>> > "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that
>> > elusive "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
>> >
>> > Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain
>> > available for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now
>> > before they also become unavailable?
>> >
>> > Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
>> >
>> > 73
>> >
>> > W8LO
>> > Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Burt
When I bought my Flex 5000 in 2008, I figured it would be unable to be 
supported by 2018.
I never thought the least technological part would be its demise.
I knew it would never be around as long as my DX-40 and S-76 (60 years).
It would seem rather than remove the 5000 from the web site, a bit of class 
would have been
an announcement officially of what apparently has dribbled out.
--- On Sun, 5/19/13, Neal Campbell  wrote:





Come on guys, lets not dish out Fear Uncertainty and Doubt! The "parts"
that they cannot get is the case and its nt that they cannot get them but
that the manufacturer now demands a minimum quantity that is way to large
for the anticipated sales or is too expensive in smaller quantities to be
realistically feasible!

They will continue to repair and service the 5000 just like they do the
SDR1000 today.

73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC

HUGE DAYTON CELEBRATION SALE!!
Time to get the guaranteed setup for your SDR!
Now until end-May



On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Samuel Strongin wrote:

>  Up the creek without a paddle !!   Sam kf4yox
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Otto
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
> To: FlexRadio Reflector
> Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>
>
> OK -
>
> Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of
> "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive
> "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
>
> Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available
> for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also
> become unavailable?
>
> Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
>
> 73
>
> W8LO
> Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Edwin Marzan
And one day the 6500 and 6700 will be obsolete and discontinued.  It is 
inevitable. We should not be surprised at the demise of the Flex 5000A. Someone 
had mentioned that Flex had just scratched the surface of what the Flex 5000A 
was capable of. I guess now we'll never know of its full potential...

> From: w...@embarqmail.com
> To: bow...@whbowen.com; jsqu...@msn.com
> Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 18:32:31 -0400
> CC: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
> 
> Thanks everyone for your help.
> 
> For some reason I had it in my mind it was an electrical component.
> 
> Looks like we would be ok for the future.  Guess I can now sell my Yaesu 
> Mark V.
> 
> 73
> W8LO
> Larry
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "Jim Jannuzzo" 
> Cc: "Flex Radio List" 
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
> 
> 
> > Jim,
> >
> >  The unavailability of the cabinet from the present vendor is only part
> > of the problem: the bigger issue is the "collateral effects" if Flex
> > changes vendors for that part, which make it uneconomical to continue
> > production.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bill Bowen
> > K8WHB
> >
> >>  Original Message 
> >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
> >> From: Jim Jannuzzo 
> >> Date: Sun, May 19, 2013 5:03 pm
> >> To: Larry Otto , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> The cabinet is reported to be the unavailable part.  Anyone who can wear 
> >> out their cabinet should consider owning more than one radio.
> >> Jim KJ2P
> >>
> >> > From: w...@embarqmail.com
> >> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> >> > Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 16:38:56 -0400
> >> > Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
> >> >
> >> > OK -
> >> >
> >> > Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of 
> >> > "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that 
> >> > elusive "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
> >> >
> >> > Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain 
> >> > available for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now 
> >> > before they also become unavailable?
> >> >
> >> > Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
> >> >
> >> > 73
> >> >
> >> > W8LO
> >> > Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Otto

Thanks everyone for your help.

For some reason I had it in my mind it was an electrical component.

Looks like we would be ok for the future.  Guess I can now sell my Yaesu 
Mark V.


73
W8LO
Larry
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Jim Jannuzzo" 
Cc: "Flex Radio List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories



Jim,

 The unavailability of the cabinet from the present vendor is only part
of the problem: the bigger issue is the "collateral effects" if Flex
changes vendors for that part, which make it uneconomical to continue
production.

73,
Bill Bowen
K8WHB


 Original Message ----
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
From: Jim Jannuzzo 
Date: Sun, May 19, 2013 5:03 pm
To: Larry Otto , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"



The cabinet is reported to be the unavailable part.  Anyone who can wear 
out their cabinet should consider owning more than one radio.

Jim KJ2P

> From: w...@embarqmail.com
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 16:38:56 -0400
> Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>
> OK -
>
> Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of 
> "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that 
> elusive "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?

>
> Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain 
> available for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now 
> before they also become unavailable?

>
> Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
>
> 73
>
> W8LO
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread bowenw
Jim, 

  The unavailability of the cabinet from the present vendor is only part
of the problem: the bigger issue is the "collateral effects" if Flex
changes vendors for that part, which make it uneconomical to continue
production.

73,
Bill Bowen
K8WHB

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
> From: Jim Jannuzzo 
> Date: Sun, May 19, 2013 5:03 pm
> To: Larry Otto , "flexradio@flex-radio.biz"
> 
> 
> 
> The cabinet is reported to be the unavailable part.  Anyone who can wear out 
> their cabinet should consider owning more than one radio.
> Jim KJ2P 
>  
> > From: w...@embarqmail.com
> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 16:38:56 -0400
> > Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
> > 
> > OK -
> > 
> > Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of "parts" 
> > -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive "part" 
> > that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
> > 
> > Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available 
> > for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also 
> > become unavailable?
> > 
> > Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
> > 
> > 73
> > 
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread bowenw
Larry,

  If you read my posting yesterday regarding W5KUB's interview of Gerry
Youngblood on Saturday 5/18 it was mentioned that the big issue with
continuing production of the 5000 was the availability of the case (and
all the fallout that changing vendors, etc. would cause).

  Nearly all the circuit components of the 5000 are industry-standard
parts. Even if, in the future, the manufacturer of a specific part
discontinues making it in production quantities small quantities should
be available for quite a long time. I've recently worked on a couple of
mostly solid state transceivers from the 1970s and had no problem (other
than having to do a bit of searching for one kinda obscure ECL logic
chip) getting the circuity parts I needed.

73,
Bill Bowen
K8WHB

P.S. In 10 or 15 years THE biggest issue might well be finding a
computer that is old enough to run PowerSDR (by that time we'll be using
128-bit machines running Windows 12 or something like that :))

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
> From: "Larry Otto" 
> Date: Sun, May 19, 2013 4:53 pm
> To: "Neal Campbell" , "Samuel Strongin"
> 
> Cc: FlexRadio Reflector 
>
>
> Now Neal, a little F.U.D. never hurt anyone !  Honestly i never heard what 
> the "Part" was.  Glad to know it is just the case,  Even I can't hurt that 
> one.  So I would think the accessories will be normally available for the 
> foreseeable future.
>
> 73
>
> W8LO
> Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Jim Jannuzzo
The cabinet is reported to be the unavailable part.  Anyone who can wear out 
their cabinet should consider owning more than one radio.
Jim KJ2P 
 
> From: w...@embarqmail.com
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 16:38:56 -0400
> Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
> 
> OK -
> 
> Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of "parts" - 
>  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive "part" that is 
> unavailable, where does that leave me?
> 
> Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available for 
> the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also become 
> unavailable?
> 
> Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
> 
> 73
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Neal Campbell
BTW this includes things like the second receiver which will remain in the
catalog.

73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC

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On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Larry Otto  wrote:

> **
> Now Neal, a little F.U.D. never hurt anyone !  Honestly i never heard what
> the "Part" was.  Glad to know it is just the case,  Even I can't hurt that
> one.  So I would think the accessories will be normally available for the
> foreseeable future.
>
> 73
>
> W8LO
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Neal Campbell 
> *To:* Samuel Strongin 
> *Cc:* Larry Otto  ; FlexRadio 
> Reflector
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>
> Come on guys, lets not dish out Fear Uncertainty and Doubt! The "parts"
> that they cannot get is the case and its nt that they cannot get them but
> that the manufacturer now demands a minimum quantity that is way to large
> for the anticipated sales or is too expensive in smaller quantities to be
> realistically feasible!
>
> They will continue to repair and service the 5000 just like they do the
> SDR1000 today.
>
> 73
>  Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal LLC
>
> HUGE DAYTON CELEBRATION SALE!!
> Time to get the guaranteed setup for your SDR!
> Now until end-May
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Samuel Strongin wrote:
>
>>  Up the creek without a paddle !!!!!!   Sam kf4yox
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Larry Otto
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
>> To: FlexRadio Reflector
>> Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>>
>>
>> OK -
>>
>> Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of
>> "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive
>> "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
>>
>> Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available
>> for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also
>> become unavailable?
>>
>> Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> W8LO
>> Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Otto
Now Neal, a little F.U.D. never hurt anyone !  Honestly i never heard what the 
"Part" was.  Glad to know it is just the case,  Even I can't hurt that one.  So 
I would think the accessories will be normally available for the foreseeable 
future.

73

W8LO
Larry



  - Original Message - 
  From: Neal Campbell 
  To: Samuel Strongin 
  Cc: Larry Otto ; FlexRadio Reflector 
  Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories


  Come on guys, lets not dish out Fear Uncertainty and Doubt! The "parts" that 
they cannot get is the case and its nt that they cannot get them but that the 
manufacturer now demands a minimum quantity that is way to large for the 
anticipated sales or is too expensive in smaller quantities to be realistically 
feasible!

  They will continue to repair and service the 5000 just like they do the 
SDR1000 today.

  73

  Neal Campbell
  Abroham Neal LLC


  HUGE DAYTON CELEBRATION SALE!!
  Time to get the guaranteed setup for your SDR!
  Now until end-May







  On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Samuel Strongin  
wrote:

 Up the creek without a paddle !!   Sam kf4yox

-Original Message- From: Larry Otto
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories


OK -

Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of "parts" 
-  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive "part" that is 
unavailable, where does that leave me?

Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available 
for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also 
become unavailable?

Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.

73

W8LO
Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Neal Campbell
Come on guys, lets not dish out Fear Uncertainty and Doubt! The "parts"
that they cannot get is the case and its nt that they cannot get them but
that the manufacturer now demands a minimum quantity that is way to large
for the anticipated sales or is too expensive in smaller quantities to be
realistically feasible!

They will continue to repair and service the 5000 just like they do the
SDR1000 today.

73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC

HUGE DAYTON CELEBRATION SALE!!
Time to get the guaranteed setup for your SDR!
Now until end-May



On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Samuel Strongin wrote:

>  Up the creek without a paddle !!   Sam kf4yox
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Otto
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
> To: FlexRadio Reflector
> Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories
>
>
> OK -
>
> Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of
> "parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive
> "part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?
>
> Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available
> for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also
> become unavailable?
>
> Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.
>
> 73
>
> W8LO
> Larry
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Samuel Strongin

 Up the creek without a paddle !!   Sam kf4yox

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Otto

Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:38 PM
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

OK -

Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of 
"parts" -  my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive 
"part" that is unavailable, where does that leave me?


Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available 
for the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also 
become unavailable?


Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.

73

W8LO
Larry
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[Flexradio] 5000 Accessories

2013-05-19 Thread Larry Otto
OK -

Now that the 5000 has met it's demise, due to the unavailability of "parts" -  
my question is, if, in the future, my 5000 needs that elusive "part" that is 
unavailable, where does that leave me?

Also, will the accessories, i.e. ATU, 2nd receiver, etc, remain available for 
the foreseable future, or shoud we purchase them now before they also become 
unavailable?

Not trying to be a S/A, just wondering.

73

W8LO
Larry
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