Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-17 Thread Ekrem (Squeaky Wheel)
Pretty much the entirety of Wim Wenders' *Buena Vista Social Club*.
Michael Bay films anytime a character regards some unimaginable (but
renderable) devastation (Can't think of a specific one, maybe all?)
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-17 Thread Fred Truniger
does straub/huillet's repeated drive around the roundabout of la bastille in 
'trop tot, trop tard' qualify?

if so, i'd strongly recommend volko kamensky's short film 'divina obsesión' 
from 1997 (Germany). it's doing 23 drive-troughs in french roundabouts. great 
film! unfortunately completely unknown.

i guess also the opening-scene in tarantino's 'reservoir dogs' is circling 
around the table, however there are many cuts. you are probably not looking for 
this kind of mise-en-scène, are you?

cheers, fred

> Am 18.02.2016 um 01:06 schrieb Gene Youngblood :
> 
> Friends,
> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or Steadicam) 
> shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a restaurant table, 
> but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous” ones in the French 
> New Wave, and there must be many others before and after that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-17 Thread Andy Ditzler
Hi Gene,

The "Actione Musicale" section in Godard's Weekend comes right to mind, as
does the circular dolly/pan around the three sisters in a restaurant in
Hannah and Her Sisters. (Assuming you're not limiting the query to only
uninterrupted/uncut 360 degree movements.) I also think of James Stewart
and Kim Novak's embrace in the hotel room in Vertigo, itself cited as an
influence on the handheld circular shot of the two young men making out
after shooting up speed in Warren Sonbert's Amphetamine. Chabrol's Les
Cousins contains a circular pan around Charles' study room near the end of
that film. The ending shot of Antonioni's The Passenger might qualify?

Andy Ditzler
Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org



On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Fred Truniger 
wrote:

> does straub/huillet's repeated drive around the roundabout of la bastille
> in 'trop tot, trop tard' qualify?
>
> if so, i'd strongly recommend volko kamensky's short film 'divina
> obsesión' from 1997 (Germany). it's doing 23 drive-troughs in french
> roundabouts. great film! unfortunately completely unknown.
>
> i guess also the opening-scene in tarantino's 'reservoir dogs' is circling
> around the table, however there are many cuts. you are probably not looking
> for this kind of mise-en-scène, are you?
>
> cheers, fred
>
> > Am 18.02.2016 um 01:06 schrieb Gene Youngblood :
> >
> > Friends,
> > I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
> restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous”
> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
> that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-17 Thread Gregory Zinman
Hi Gene,

Also, DePalma tries his best to outdo the Vertigo shot that Andy mentioned in 
Body Double:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSyVSPfxjg 


Greg
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Andy Ditzler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gene, 
> 
> The "Actione Musicale" section in Godard's Weekend comes right to mind, as 
> does the circular dolly/pan around the three sisters in a restaurant in 
> Hannah and Her Sisters. (Assuming you're not limiting the query to only 
> uninterrupted/uncut 360 degree movements.) I also think of James Stewart and 
> Kim Novak's embrace in the hotel room in Vertigo, itself cited as an 
> influence on the handheld circular shot of the two young men making out after 
> shooting up speed in Warren Sonbert's Amphetamine. Chabrol's Les Cousins 
> contains a circular pan around Charles' study room near the end of that film. 
> The ending shot of Antonioni's The Passenger might qualify? 
> 
> Andy Ditzler
> Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org 
> Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Fred Truniger  > wrote:
> does straub/huillet's repeated drive around the roundabout of la bastille in 
> 'trop tot, trop tard' qualify?
> 
> if so, i'd strongly recommend volko kamensky's short film 'divina obsesión' 
> from 1997 (Germany). it's doing 23 drive-troughs in french roundabouts. great 
> film! unfortunately completely unknown.
> 
> i guess also the opening-scene in tarantino's 'reservoir dogs' is circling 
> around the table, however there are many cuts. you are probably not looking 
> for this kind of mise-en-scène, are you?
> 
> cheers, fred
> 
> > Am 18.02.2016 um 01:06 schrieb Gene Youngblood  > >:
> >
> > Friends,
> > I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or 
> > Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a 
> > restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous” 
> > ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after 
> > that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-17 Thread o...@thenowcorporation.com
possibly the worst acting ever on a major motion picture

Owen's mobile device



> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Gregory Zinman  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gene,
> 
> Also, DePalma tries his best to outdo the Vertigo shot that Andy mentioned in 
> Body Double:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSyVSPfxjg
> 
> Greg
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Andy Ditzler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Gene, 
>> 
>> The "Actione Musicale" section in Godard's Weekend comes right to mind, as 
>> does the circular dolly/pan around the three sisters in a restaurant in 
>> Hannah and Her Sisters. (Assuming you're not limiting the query to only 
>> uninterrupted/uncut 360 degree movements.) I also think of James Stewart and 
>> Kim Novak's embrace in the hotel room in Vertigo, itself cited as an 
>> influence on the handheld circular shot of the two young men making out 
>> after shooting up speed in Warren Sonbert's Amphetamine. Chabrol's Les 
>> Cousins contains a circular pan around Charles' study room near the end of 
>> that film. The ending shot of Antonioni's The Passenger might qualify? 
>> 
>> Andy Ditzler
>> Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
>> Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Fred Truniger  
>>> wrote:
>>> does straub/huillet's repeated drive around the roundabout of la bastille 
>>> in 'trop tot, trop tard' qualify?
>>> 
>>> if so, i'd strongly recommend volko kamensky's short film 'divina obsesión' 
>>> from 1997 (Germany). it's doing 23 drive-troughs in french roundabouts. 
>>> great film! unfortunately completely unknown.
>>> 
>>> i guess also the opening-scene in tarantino's 'reservoir dogs' is circling 
>>> around the table, however there are many cuts. you are probably not looking 
>>> for this kind of mise-en-scène, are you?
>>> 
>>> cheers, fred
>>> 
>>> > Am 18.02.2016 um 01:06 schrieb Gene Youngblood :
>>> >
>>> > Friends,
>>> > I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or 
>>> > Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a 
>>> > restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are 
>>> > “famous” ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others 
>>> > before and after that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-17 Thread Adam Hyman
I thought there is a tremendous on in Paradjanov's Shadows of Forgotten
Ancestors, but I debate whether I am remembering it correctly.  Dancing
through trees?  It might have the camera in the center of a circle spinning
around, as opposed to being a circular track around.  However, I also have
seen the film with this shot, and then without it.  But as it was one of the
most memorable things in it the first time I saw it, and I confirmed its
existence with someone else, I have only gotten confused by seeing the film
again without it.

Here's a badly faded version someone uploaded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GoXMSAMOyg
I might have mentally reconceived the tracking shot through the bushes in
the 48:00 ­ 49:00 range, but I swear is was a circular tracking shot through
bushes into a clearing where a protagonist was dancing, or the main couple
was dancing.  It's been a few years.  I don't know.

Anyway, I bet some P. Thomas Anderson film has one.

Adam



From:  Andy Ditzler 
Reply-To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List
" 
Date:  Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:03:23 -0500
To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List "

Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

Hi Gene, 

The "Actione Musicale" section in Godard's Weekend comes right to mind, as
does the circular dolly/pan around the three sisters in a restaurant in
Hannah and Her Sisters. (Assuming you're not limiting the query to only
uninterrupted/uncut 360 degree movements.) I also think of James Stewart and
Kim Novak's embrace in the hotel room in Vertigo, itself cited as an
influence on the handheld circular shot of the two young men making out
after shooting up speed in Warren Sonbert's Amphetamine. Chabrol's Les
Cousins contains a circular pan around Charles' study room near the end of
that film. The ending shot of Antonioni's The Passenger might qualify?

Andy Ditzler
Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org <http://www.filmlove.org/>
Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org <http://www.johnq.org/>



On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Fred Truniger 
wrote:
> does straub/huillet's repeated drive around the roundabout of la bastille in
> 'trop tot, trop tard' qualify?
> 
> if so, i'd strongly recommend volko kamensky's short film 'divina obsesión'
> from 1997 (Germany). it's doing 23 drive-troughs in french roundabouts. great
> film! unfortunately completely unknown.
> 
> i guess also the opening-scene in tarantino's 'reservoir dogs' is circling
> around the table, however there are many cuts. you are probably not looking
> for this kind of mise-en-scène, are you?
> 
> cheers, fred
> 
>> > Am 18.02.2016 um 01:06 schrieb Gene Youngblood :
>> >
>> > Friends,
>> > I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
>> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
>> restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are ³famous²
>> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
>> that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-18 Thread Nicky Hamlyn
Mulvey and Wollen: Riddles of the Sphinx. 13 consecutive 360 degree pans.

Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Sony Xperia™

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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-18 Thread Gary Thomas
de Palma’s Obsession - https://vimeo.com/groups/audiovisualcy/videos/35393392 


Snow’s La Region Centrale!

Gary Hill’s Site Recite http://garyhill.com/work/site-recite.html 


> On 18 Feb 2016, at 08:33, Nicky Hamlyn  wrote:
> 
> Mulvey and Wollen: Riddles of the Sphinx. 13 consecutive 360 degree pans.
> 
> Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Sony Xperia™
> 
> 
> 
>  o...@thenowcorporation.com a écrit 
> 
> possibly the worst acting ever on a major motion picture
> 
> Owen's mobile device
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Gregory Zinman  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gene,
>> 
>> Also, DePalma tries his best to outdo the Vertigo shot that Andy mentioned 
>> in Body Double:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSyVSPfxjg 
>> 
>> 
>> Greg
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Andy Ditzler >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gene, 
>>> 
>>> The "Actione Musicale" section in Godard's Weekend comes right to mind, as 
>>> does the circular dolly/pan around the three sisters in a restaurant in 
>>> Hannah and Her Sisters. (Assuming you're not limiting the query to only 
>>> uninterrupted/uncut 360 degree movements.) I also think of James Stewart 
>>> and Kim Novak's embrace in the hotel room in Vertigo, itself cited as an 
>>> influence on the handheld circular shot of the two young men making out 
>>> after shooting up speed in Warren Sonbert's Amphetamine. Chabrol's Les 
>>> Cousins contains a circular pan around Charles' study room near the end of 
>>> that film. The ending shot of Antonioni's The Passenger might qualify? 
>>> 
>>> Andy Ditzler
>>> Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org 
>>> Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Fred Truniger >> > wrote:
>>> does straub/huillet's repeated drive around the roundabout of la bastille 
>>> in 'trop tot, trop tard' qualify?
>>> 
>>> if so, i'd strongly recommend volko kamensky's short film 'divina obsesión' 
>>> from 1997 (Germany). it's doing 23 drive-troughs in french roundabouts. 
>>> great film! unfortunately completely unknown.
>>> 
>>> i guess also the opening-scene in tarantino's 'reservoir dogs' is circling 
>>> around the table, however there are many cuts. you are probably not looking 
>>> for this kind of mise-en-scène, are you?
>>> 
>>> cheers, fred
>>> 
>>> > Am 18.02.2016 um 01:06 schrieb Gene Youngblood >> > >:
>>> >
>>> > Friends,
>>> > I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or 
>>> > Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a 
>>> > restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are 
>>> > “famous” ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others 
>>> > before and after that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-18 Thread Pip Chodorov
Jackie Raynal's DEUX FOIS (1968) contains exactly this smooth 360 
degree panorama, the camera is in the center of the wide and busy 
Avenida Franco in Barcelona and makes two complete rotations.

This shot also appears in a Chantal Akerman, perhaps News from Home.




Friends,
I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or 
Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at 
a restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are 
"famous" ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others 
before and after that.

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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-18 Thread Luke Aspell
There is a 360-degree movement, camera facing outwards, in Otto
Preminger's Die große Liebe.


Best wishes,
Luke


On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Pip Chodorov 
wrote:

> Jackie Raynal's DEUX FOIS (1968) contains exactly this smooth 360 degree
> panorama, the camera is in the center of the wide and busy Avenida Franco
> in Barcelona and makes two complete rotations.
> This shot also appears in a Chantal Akerman, perhaps News from Home.
>
>
>
>
> Friends,
>> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
>> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
>> restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are "famous"
>> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
>> that.
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-18 Thread Peter Mudie
John Dunkley-Smith’s BACK IN BEDFORD (1976) is based on a repeated 360 degree 
tracking circuit of a quiet city block in Bedford (the UK one) - great film, 
one of my favourites…
Peter
(back in Perth)

From: FrameWorks 
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Date: Thursday, 18 February 2016 8:23 pm
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There is a 360-degree movement, camera facing outwards, in Otto Preminger's Die 
große Liebe.


Best wishes,
Luke


On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Pip Chodorov 
mailto:framewo...@re-voir.com>> wrote:
Jackie Raynal's DEUX FOIS (1968) contains exactly this smooth 360 degree 
panorama, the camera is in the center of the wide and busy Avenida Franco in 
Barcelona and makes two complete rotations.
This shot also appears in a Chantal Akerman, perhaps News from Home.




Friends,
I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or Steadicam) 
shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a restaurant table, 
but it can be anything. It seems to me there are "famous" ones in the French 
New Wave, and there must be many others before and after that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 Degrees

2016-02-18 Thread Green, Ron Green
  *   Single Wide by Teresa Hubbard and Alex Birchler consists entirely of a 
non-stop circular tracking shot that circles its object multiple times.
  *   Condition of Illusion by Peter Gidal is non-stop, repeated circular 
tracking
  *   Anticipation of the Night, the merry-go-round shot
  *   The Red and the White, Jancso (it's been a while)
  *   If pans from a stationary center count, then the "Grand Ensemble" shots 
from Godard's Two or Three Things...



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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-18 Thread Scott MacDonald
Hey Gene,

Bill Morrison's RELEASE does a formal exploration of a circular panning
shot of a crowd at Eastern State Prison (in PA), assembled to see Al Capone
released. He begins in the middle of the circular pan, adding a bit on both
ends, until we've seen the entire panorama. (The film is on Morrison's DVD
set.)

J. J. Murphy's SKY BLUE WATER LIGHT SIGN is a faux 360-degree pan.

The central section of Mulvey/Wollen's RIDDLES OF THE SPHINX is made up of
360-degree pans.

Scott

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> Friends,
> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
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> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-18 Thread Kevin Obsatz
For a recent example, there’s a pretty amazing one at the end of Carlos 
Reygadas’ feature film "Japon" - the final shot in the film is a several 
minutes’ long, 360 degree dolly shot of, if memory serves, the aftermath of 
some kind of violent event.

-K


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> From: Gene Youngblood 
> Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees
> Date: February 17, 2016 at 6:06:32 PM CST
> To: Frameworks Listserv 
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> 
> Friends,
> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or Steadicam) 
> shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a restaurant table, 
> but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous” ones in the French 
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-19 Thread John Muse
Just because I watched these today: John Smith's The Girl Chewing Gum and 
Chantal Akerman's La Chambre. 

And Michael Snow's Back and Forth precisely because it doesn't give me the 360 
but, because we're listening to the machine do it's work, I feel nonetheless 
that the off-screen is there, obdurate yet withdrawn.

j

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> Many thanks, everyone, for your wide-ranging suggestions. Makes one want to 
> see all of them. In case you’re keeping this thread (as I always do) 
> Brittany’s pointer to Martha jogged my memory of another Fassbinder circle in 
> Chinese Roulette.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Fred Camper
A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious 
homage to the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, 
"Amphetamine."


Fred Camper
Chicago

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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Gene Youngblood
Thanks, Fred. Speaking of Sonbert, I ran across a VOD service that has most of 
his films, but I forgot the name of the company. Andy Ditzler suggested Jon 
Gartenberg might have something to do with it, and indeed I vaguely recall his 
name on the site. I emailed Jon and am awaiting a reply. It would be fantastic 
to see those films I haven’t seen for 40 years.


> On Feb 23, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Fred Camper  wrote:
> 
> A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage to 
> the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, "Amphetamine."
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread vanessa renwick
Fassbinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZbGOrvi_t0
I think there were some other Fassbinder films with more circling shots,
will try and remember them.

Vanessa Renwick
Oregon Department of Kick Ass 



On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Friends,
> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
> restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous”
> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Hardin, Ted
Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at the 
Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that were 
displayed:  “Another room in Fassbinder – JETZT is dedicated to one of 
Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking shot. Scenes 
from Rio das Mortes (1970), World on a Wire (1973), Martha (1973), Chinese 
Roulette (1976), Berlin Alexanderplatz (1979/80), and Querelle (1982) play on a 
loop on a hanging screen.”

‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass 
shelves.

The write up:  
http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/

‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g

Ted Hardin
Columbia College Chicago

On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper 
mailto:f...@fredcamper.com>> wrote:

A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage to 
the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, "Amphetamine."

Fred Camper
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
Folks, Gene asked for 360° _tracking_ shots, not pans.

Is there an old DePalma film that DOESN'T have one?

I can't recall if any of the 'bullet time' slo-mo shots in the Matrix films, or 
subsequent action films that aped that technique, went all the way around But 
I'm guessing there are examples (??). Or under-cranked examples (??).
 
It seems almost so common now that exemplars in commercial cinema just fade 
into 'oh no, not that again'…

Though Gene specified on-tracks or Stedicam, I think I might have seen circling 
some subject in handheld/nausea-cam stuff. Are there examples in any 
documentary actualities? It seems like something Pennebaker would have done at 
least once… 'One PM' maybe?
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread salise.hug...@gmail.com
Fassbender's Whity (1971).

- Reply message -
From: "Hardin, Ted" 
To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees
Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:27 pm
Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at the 
Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that were 
displayed:  “Another room in
Fassbinder – JETZT is dedicated to one of Fassbinder’s favoured formal 
techniques: the 360 degree tracking shot. Scenes from
Rio das Mortes (1970), World on a Wire (1973),
Martha (1973), Chinese Roulette (1976), 
Berlin Alexanderplatz (1979/80), and Querelle (1982) play on a loop on a 
hanging screen.”


‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass 
shelves.


The write up:  
http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/ 


‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g


Ted Hardin
Columbia College Chicago



On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper  wrote:

A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage to 
the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, "Amphetamine."

Fred Camper
Chicago

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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread Adam Sekuler
Apichatpong has one in his National Anthem short. Also Godard's Sympathy
For The Devil.
On Feb 17, 2016 5:06 PM, "Gene Youngblood"  wrote:

> Friends,
> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
> restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous”
> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
> that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-23 Thread vanessa renwick
I was thinking that there also is some over the top Fassbinder loopityloop
shot, rotating around Fassbinder, when he starred in Wolf Gremm's Kamikaze
89.

Vanessa Renwick
Oregon Department of Kick Ass 



On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Hardin, Ted  wrote:

> Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at
> the Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that
> were displayed:  “Another room in *Fassbinder – JETZT* is dedicated to
> one of Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking
> shot. Scenes from *Rio das Mortes* (1970), *World on a Wire* (1973), *Martha
> *(1973), *Chinese Roulette* (1976), * Berlin Alexanderplatz* (1979/80),
> and *Querelle* (1982) play on a loop on a hanging screen.”
>
> ‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass
> shelves.
>
> The write up:
> http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/
>
>
> ‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g
>
> Ted Hardin
> Columbia College Chicago
>
> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper  wrote:
>
> A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage
> to the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, "Amphetamine."
>
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-24 Thread Salise Hughes
It's been a while since I've seen Fassbender's Whity, but I remember an
inverted 380 tracking shot focused on the exchange of cash, the moment love
turned to commerce.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:13 PM, salise.hug...@gmail.com <
salise.hug...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fassbender's Whity (1971).
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Hardin, Ted" 
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
> Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees
> Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:27 pm
>
>
> Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at
> the Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that
> were displayed:  “Another room in *Fassbinder – JETZT* is dedicated to
> one of Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking
> shot. Scenes from *Rio das Mortes* (1970), *World on a Wire* (1973), *Martha
> *(1973), *Chinese Roulette* (1976), * Berlin Alexanderplatz* (1979/80),
> and *Querelle* (1982) play on a loop on a hanging screen.”
>
> ‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass
> shelves.
>
> The write up:
> http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/
>
>
> ‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g
>
> Ted Hardin
> Columbia College Chicago
>
> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper  wrote:
>
> A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage
> to the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, "Amphetamine."
>
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-02-24 Thread Gene Youngblood
Thanks again, all, for these suggestions. It seems the subject is of interest 
to Frameworkers. We saw Peter Greenaway’s “Eisenstein in Guanajuato” today. 
It’s a mess overall, but it does have some very inventive circular camera 
moves, all the more interesting for the way they’re edited. One scene 
alternates rapidly between 360-degree dollies and pans in one space, something 
I hadn’t seen before.


> On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Salise Hughes  wrote:
> 
> It's been a while since I've seen Fassbender's Whity, but I remember an 
> inverted 380 tracking shot focused on the exchange of cash, the moment love 
> turned to commerce. 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:13 PM, salise.hug...@gmail.com 
>   > wrote:
> Fassbender's Whity (1971).
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Hardin, Ted" mailto:thar...@colum.edu>>
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List"  >
> Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees
> Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:27 pm
> 
> 
> Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at the 
> Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that were 
> displayed:  “Another room in Fassbinder – JETZT is dedicated to one of 
> Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking shot. Scenes 
> from Rio das Mortes (1970), World on a Wire(1973), Martha (1973), Chinese 
> Roulette (1976), Berlin Alexanderplatz (1979/80), and Querelle (1982) play on 
> a loop on a hanging screen.”
> 
> ‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass 
> shelves.
> 
> The write up:  
> http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/ 
>  
> 
> ‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g 
> 
> 
> Ted Hardin
> Columbia College Chicago
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper > > wrote:
>> 
>> A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage to 
>> the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, "Amphetamine."
>> 
>> Fred Camper
>> Chicago
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-03-01 Thread John Muse
One more, because I'm watching it now!  Bill Viola's Sweet Light: many 360's 
around a candle in the center of a table. 

On Feb 24, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Thanks again, all, for these suggestions. It seems the subject is of interest 
> to Frameworkers. We saw Peter Greenaway’s “Eisenstein in Guanajuato” today. 
> It’s a mess overall, but it does have some very inventive circular camera 
> moves, all the more interesting for the way they’re edited. One scene 
> alternates rapidly between 360-degree dollies and pans in one space, 
> something I hadn’t seen before.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Salise Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>> It's been a while since I've seen Fassbender's Whity, but I remember an 
>> inverted 380 tracking shot focused on the exchange of cash, the moment love 
>> turned to commerce. 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:13 PM, salise.hug...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> Fassbender's Whity (1971).
>> 
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Hardin, Ted" 
>> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
>> Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees
>> Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:27 pm
>> 
>> 
>> Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at the 
>> Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that were 
>> displayed:  “Another room in Fassbinder – JETZT is dedicated to one of 
>> Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking shot. 
>> Scenes from Rio das Mortes (1970), World on a Wire(1973), Martha (1973), 
>> Chinese Roulette (1976), Berlin Alexanderplatz (1979/80), and Querelle 
>> (1982) play on a loop on a hanging screen.”
>> 
>> ‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass 
>> shelves.
>> 
>> The write up:  
>> http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/ 
>> 
>> ‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g
>> 
>> Ted Hardin
>> Columbia College Chicago
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage 
>>> to the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, "Amphetamine."
>>> 
>>> Fred Camper
>>> Chicago
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>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-03-01 Thread Gene Youngblood
Right! I forgot about that one. He did it by suspending the camera from a 
ceiling fan. The cable wrapped around the fan until it wouldn’t rotate any 
more, then he reversed the direction of the fan and video’d until it wrapped up 
again. He hung the camera so that the orbit wouldn’t be a perfect circle. He 
put the microphone in a trash can so the voices sound distant.


> On Mar 1, 2016, at 5:25 PM, John Muse  wrote:
> 
> One more, because I'm watching it now!  Bill Viola's Sweet Light: many 360's 
> around a candle in the center of a table. 
> 
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks again, all, for these suggestions. It seems the subject is of 
>> interest to Frameworkers. We saw Peter Greenaway’s “Eisenstein in 
>> Guanajuato” today. It’s a mess overall, but it does have some very inventive 
>> circular camera moves, all the more interesting for the way they’re edited. 
>> One scene alternates rapidly between 360-degree dollies and pans in one 
>> space, something I hadn’t seen before.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Salise Hughes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's been a while since I've seen Fassbender's Whity, but I remember an 
>>> inverted 380 tracking shot focused on the exchange of cash, the moment love 
>>> turned to commerce. 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:13 PM, salise.hug...@gmail.com 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Fassbender's Whity (1971).
>>> 
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Hardin, Ted" 
>>> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
>>> Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees
>>> Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:27 pm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at 
>>> the Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that 
>>> were displayed:  “Another room in Fassbinder – JETZT is dedicated to one of 
>>> Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking shot. 
>>> Scenes from Rio das Mortes (1970), World on a Wire(1973), Martha (1973), 
>>> Chinese Roulette (1976), Berlin Alexanderplatz (1979/80), and Querelle 
>>> (1982) play on a loop on a hanging screen.”
>>> 
>>> ‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass 
>>> shelves.
>>> 
>>> The write up:  
>>> http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/ 
>>> 
>>> ‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g
>>> 
>>> Ted Hardin
>>> Columbia College Chicago
>>> 
 On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper  wrote:
 
 A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage 
 to the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, 
 "Amphetamine."
 
 Fred Camper
 Chicago
 
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-03-01 Thread John Muse
Ah!  Thanks for this tale.  I'll share it with students.

I like this film; not what I expect from Viola; nice to see this. 

On Mar 1, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Right! I forgot about that one. He did it by suspending the camera from a 
> ceiling fan. The cable wrapped around the fan until it wouldn’t rotate any 
> more, then he reversed the direction of the fan and video’d until it wrapped 
> up again. He hung the camera so that the orbit wouldn’t be a perfect circle. 
> He put the microphone in a trash can so the voices sound distant.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 5:25 PM, John Muse  wrote:
>> 
>> One more, because I'm watching it now!  Bill Viola's Sweet Light: many 360's 
>> around a candle in the center of a table. 
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks again, all, for these suggestions. It seems the subject is of 
>>> interest to Frameworkers. We saw Peter Greenaway’s “Eisenstein in 
>>> Guanajuato” today. It’s a mess overall, but it does have some very 
>>> inventive circular camera moves, all the more interesting for the way 
>>> they’re edited. One scene alternates rapidly between 360-degree dollies and 
>>> pans in one space, something I hadn’t seen before.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Salise Hughes  
 wrote:
 
 It's been a while since I've seen Fassbender's Whity, but I remember an 
 inverted 380 tracking shot focused on the exchange of cash, the moment 
 love turned to commerce. 
 
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:13 PM, salise.hug...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 Fassbender's Whity (1971).
 
 - Reply message -
 From: "Hardin, Ted" 
 To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
 Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees
 Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:27 pm
 
 
 Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at 
 the Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that 
 were displayed:  “Another room in Fassbinder – JETZT is dedicated to one 
 of Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking shot. 
 Scenes from Rio das Mortes (1970), World on a Wire(1973), Martha (1973), 
 Chinese Roulette (1976), Berlin Alexanderplatz (1979/80), and Querelle 
 (1982) play on a loop on a hanging screen.”
 
 ‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass 
 shelves.
 
 The write up:  
 http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/ 
 
 ‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g
 
 Ted Hardin
 Columbia College Chicago
 
> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper  wrote:
> 
> A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage 
> to the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, 
> "Amphetamine."
> 
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Cargni Mitchell
In 'The Way He Always Wanted It II'  by Stephen Prina there are two separate 14 
minute, 360 degree tracking shots.

RC


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Ah!  Thanks for this tale.  I'll share it with students.

I like this film; not what I expect from Viola; nice to see this.

On Mar 1, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Right! I forgot about that one. He did it by suspending the camera from a 
> ceiling fan. The cable wrapped around the fan until it wouldn’t rotate any 
> more, then he reversed the direction of the fan and video’d until it wrapped 
> up again. He hung the camera so that the orbit wouldn’t be a perfect circle. 
> He put the microphone in a trash can so the voices sound distant.
>
>
>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 5:25 PM, John Muse  wrote:
>>
>> One more, because I'm watching it now!  Bill Viola's Sweet Light: many 360's 
>> around a candle in the center of a table.
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks again, all, for these suggestions. It seems the subject is of 
>>> interest to Frameworkers. We saw Peter Greenaway’s “Eisenstein in 
>>> Guanajuato” today. It’s a mess overall, but it does have some very 
>>> inventive circular camera moves, all the more interesting for the way 
>>> they’re edited. One scene alternates rapidly between 360-degree dollies and 
>>> pans in one space, something I hadn’t seen before.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Salise Hughes  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's been a while since I've seen Fassbender's Whity, but I remember an 
>>>> inverted 380 tracking shot focused on the exchange of cash, the moment 
>>>> love turned to commerce.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:13 PM, salise.hug...@gmail.com 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> Fassbender's Whity (1971).
>>>>
>>>> - Reply message -
>>>> From: "Hardin, Ted" 
>>>> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
>>>> Subject: [Frameworks] 360 degrees
>>>> Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:27 pm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s fondness for this technique was on display at 
>>>> the Martin Gropius Bau in Berlin last year.  Here’s a list of films that 
>>>> were displayed:  “Another room in Fassbinder – JETZT is dedicated to one 
>>>> of Fassbinder’s favoured formal techniques: the 360 degree tracking shot. 
>>>> Scenes from Rio das Mortes (1970), World on a Wire(1973), Martha (1973), 
>>>> Chinese Roulette (1976), Berlin Alexanderplatz (1979/80), and Querelle 
>>>> (1982) play on a loop on a hanging screen.”
>>>>
>>>> ‘Chinese Roulette’ has my favorite 720 degree tracking shot through glass 
>>>> shelves.
>>>>
>>>> The write up:  
>>>> http://berlinfilmjournal.com/2015/08/petrified-fassbinder-jetzt-annotated/
>>>>
>>>> ‘Martha’  clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0tVsI-63g
>>>>
>>>> Ted Hardin
>>>> Columbia College Chicago
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Fred Camper  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A handheld 360 movement around two young men kissing in an obvious homage 
>>>>> to the "Vertigo" kiss appears in Warren Sonbert's first film, 
>>>>> "Amphetamine."
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Camper
>>>>> Chicago
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>>>>
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>>>> https://vimeo.com/user1421998
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-03-02 Thread Warren Cockerham
Halfway through Gary Hill's WHY DO THINGS GET IN A MUDDLE? (1984)




On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Friends,
> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
> restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous”
> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
> that.
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

2016-03-09 Thread mary billyou
Did anyone mention Redmond Entwistle's work? His *Social Visions* has an
animated 360 degree shot and one of his more recent films too, I think *Belfast
Trio.*


*http://www.lux.org.uk/collection/artists/redmond-entwistle
*

Cheers,

Mary

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Friends,
> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
> restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous”
> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
> that.
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