tarfs
I see that tarfs, a file system which can make a read-only file system out of a compressed archive, has been added to FreeBSD 14.0. This could be especially useful for embedded work IF one could boot from it... and possibly overlay files in it with unionfs to allow customization. Does this capability exist? --Brett Glass
Re: Sustainability of switching power supplies
At 01:24 AM 11/21/2020, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-chat wrote: My experiences with modern computer power supplies aren't bad, but my impression about switching power supplies in almost everything and the sustainability of this approach ... voltage undersized caps etc. isn't good. Not sure what you mean by "sustainability" here. If you mean their environmental impact, well, it depends. If properly designed, switchers are more efficient than linear supplies, generate less heat, and waste less energy. However, because they're more complex and contain more toxic metals and more solder, they have the potential to generate more harmful waste when they're retired. If you mean reliability, they're actually pretty close. Switchers are more resistant to power surges (because they can withstand higher input voltages with no damage) but suffer due to their complexity; there are more parts to fail. And the part that fails most often in power supplies - the electrolytic capacitor - is present in both types. (The "capacitor plague" of the last decade is still haunting us today, because even now millions of power supplies made with the faulty capacitors are still in use and/or still in supply chains. But even good electrolytics are essentially quick-charging batteries and do fail more often than other components.) That's why Glass's Law of Electronic Diagnosis states: Whenever you are asked about the failure of an electronic device, simply say, "It's the power suppply." You will be correct about 99% of the time, and since you came up with the right answer before you even looked, you'll be considered to be either psychic or a bloody genius. ;-) --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Intel multicore queue management device
IEEE Spectrum just published an article regarding new inter-core communications hardware developed by researchers at UNC funded by Intel: http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/processors/breaking-the-multicore-bottleneck The article doesn't go into great detail, but suggests that the new hardware might be useful to accelerate network packet processing -- perhaps especially in FreeBSD, whose unique Netgraph drivers are already set up to handle packets in a similar fashion. Could this be fodder for a future FreeBSD Foundation-sponsored coding effort? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: For Google+ users: BSD community
It'll never bring in my BSD systems or projects. Internet monopolist Google is untrustworthy and a menace to privacy and security. --Brett Glass At 04:25 AM 11/19/2013, Tony Sidaway wrote: If you're using Google+, this community brings together all BSD systems and BSD-related projects. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Fw: FreeBSD and kabbalah
At 01:00 AM 11/10/2013, Genghis Khan wrote: Typical Jewish behaviour. I find the ABOVE to be offensive -- not the original post, which was amusing. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: TomahawkWorld/netTsunami released for FreeBSD
This is not a good thing. It attempts to exploit ISPs' networks to avoid the purchase of bandwidth for commercial content distribution. It should not be encouraged. In fact, ISPs should block it to avoid burdening their networks and users with the additional cost of distributing third parties' content. --Brett Glass At 01:58 PM 10/16/2013, Sagara Wijetunga wrote: Hi FreeBSD We have launched a new video venture, www.tomahawkworld.com. The software release was done first to FreeBSD. Please give it a try. The TomahawkWorld is based on the netTsunami protocol (a p2p-based content delivery protocol). It is necessary to install the software provided to your computer to watch video or listen to audio. The press release has lot more info, and available here: http://www.facebook.com/TomahawkWorld We were the makers of the FreeBSD-based Tomahawk Desktop OS. We intend to release a new version of the Tomahawk Desktop OS based on FreeBSD 10. Click us Like on our Facebook page if you like TomahawkWorld. Best regards Sagara ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!
All: It's good to see corporate support of BSD, but at the same time I have mixed feelings about certain corporations -- Verisign among them -- hosting BSD-related conferences or becoming involved in the development of BSD-based operating systems. Why? Because Verisign, based in Reston, Virginia (the city next door to Vienna, VA, home of the NSA), has strong ties to this shadowy agency. The NSA, in turn -- as reported in documents recently leaked by Edward Snowden -- has a very strong interest in weakening the security of cryptographic algorithms, cryptographic software, and operating systems. We may want to look this gift horse very carefully in the mouth, or at least monitor very closely "contributions" of code that might introduce backdoors or weaknesses. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: "injunction" on the use of GA
At 06:18 PM 6/5/2013, Joe Altman wrote: Weblog analysis is hard. Google, with its analytics, does it well. The project needs that analysis. For what? To market its expensive product? The fact is that the project does NOT need this analysis, especially at the cost of visitors' privacy. It sets a horrendous bad example and shows a flagrant disregard for security. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: "injunction" on the use of GA
At 02:55 AM 5/23/2013, Jayton Garnett wrote: Does it really matter? Yes. A lot. FreeBSD should not facilitate violations of privacy or similar security risks. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Google spyware on FreeBSD Web site?
At 01:39 PM 12/6/2012, Jason Slagle wrote: Sell out? Yes, sell out. Some sites sell out to Google to get money. Others do it to get cheap analytics instead of using open source analytical tools (which seems odd in the case of FreeBSD, because it is after all a open source project). If you don't want the GA script to load on the site, are you volunteering to write the software to allow them to accomplish those goals? Again, there's no need to reinvent the wheel. There are plenty of good analytical tools out there. Also, under the default settings, Google Analytics does NOT set any doubleclick cookies, or as far as I've ever been able to tell, ANY cookies related to ad tracking. Yes, Google Analytics does track users. According to the Wikipedia article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Analytics "Google Analytics (GA) is a service offered by <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google>Google that generates detailed <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics>statistics about the visits to a <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website>website. The product is aimed at <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_marketing>marketers as opposed to <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webmasters>webmasters and technologists from which the industry of <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_analytics>web analytics originally grew." It goes on to say that "GA can track visitors from all <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referrer>referrers, including <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engines>search engines, display advertising, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-click>pay-per-click networks, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_marketing>e-mail marketing and digital collateral such as links within <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF>PDF documents." Additionally, the cookies it sets are all first party - they will be from the FreeBSD domains, and will not be readable by others. Again, according to the above cited article: "Due to its ubiquity, Google Analytics raises some privacy concerns. Whenever someone visits a website that uses Google Analytics, if Javascript is enabled in the browser then Google tracks that visit via the user's <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address>IP address in order to determine the user's approximate geographic location." So, it's not just cookies that one needs to be concerned about. It's also worth remembering that Google surreptitiously hacked Safari to allow it to spy on Safari users, and denied doing so until it was caught. See, for example, http://www.pcworld.com/article/250213/googles_safari_tracking_dilemma_reality_check.html In my opinion, The FreeBSD Project should be on the side of security, privacy, transparency, and good ethics. This means not invoking corporate spyware scripts from its Web site. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Google spyware on FreeBSD Web site?
At 01:41 PM 12/4/2012, Matthew Seaman wrote: >If you're unhappy about websites that pass your details on to >advertizers and you don't want to have to trust that all those sites out >there have correctly implemented 'Do Not Track' then I heartily >recommend the RequestPolicy plugin for FireFox. The downside is that the >first time you go to a new site, you'll have to set which sites you >allow the site your visiting to cross-site too, but that can be quite an >eye-opener in itself. (Works well with NoScript too.) I actually use several such plug-ins. However, the average user does not; in fact, most users do not even know how to activate the "Do Not Track" header (which Google's lobbyists in DC have advocated that Web sites ignore). It seems to me that The FreeBSD Project should be on the side of security, privacy, and good ethics. Just because it has received contributions of labor from Google does not mean it should not sell out to it. Just my $0.02. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Google spyware on FreeBSD Web site?
At 01:13 PM 12/4/2012, Eitan Adler wrote: >GA is not "spyware". It may >have properties you dislike but it is not (a) software installed on >your computer (b) without notice (c) malicious. It does not matter whether the code is permanently installed on your computer (though Google's tracking cookies certainly are), because it is simply loaded again and again. There is no notice. As for malicious intent: YMMV, but I certainly do not trust any multi-billion dollar monopolistic corporation, and least of all Google, which has a long track record of anticompetitive and invasive practices. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Google spyware on FreeBSD Web site?
Everyone: Today, I received a rather shocking the announcement: The FreeBSD Project's Web developer announced his intent to incorporate corporate spyware into the FreeBSD.org Web site. As you may or may not know, the so-called "Google Analytics" scripts do more than analyze the traffic which goes to a Web site. They also spy on its users, planting cookies in their browsers and tracking their activities on the Web for the exclusive benefit of one corporation: Google. What's more, at least one organization which is paid to lobby for Google in Washington, DC has announced that it does not intend to honor, and does not recommend that Web sites honor, the "Do Not Track" header. So, even if users are knowledgeable enough to cause their browsers to generate this header (most are not), there is no reason to trust Google to honor it. The FreeBSD project should not allow or condone such behavior -- which is a serious security risk and violation of visitors' privacy. Nor should it show favoritism toward a single corporation. I'd like to ask that the FreeBSD project set a good example for others by refusing to incorporate corporate spyware into its Web site. If it is desirable to gather statistics regarding the site, there are ways to do it that do not compromise visitors' privacy or execute invasive spyware on their machines. Sincerely, Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Unified BSD?
You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that the Linux world is unified. It isn't. The big difference between Linux and the BSDs is that it alienates itself from the BSDs and many other projects by using a viral, business-hostile license. The BSDs can draw on one another's work because there are no licensing barriers between them. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
...and the FreeBSD mascot rises from behind the clouds....
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Re: Superstitious users and the FreeBSD logo
At 02:20 AM 12/5/2011, Matthew Seaman wrote: Even better, colour it golden, and you can get the Harry Potter constituency on-board too.. Or color it pink... and pigs will fly! ;-) --Brett ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why aren't you using FreeBSD?
At 03:57 AM 12/3/2011, Hans Ottevanger wrote: Other valid questions that I often hear asked are of course "Why do you -still- use FreeBSD?" and "Why are you moving away from FreeBSD?". A discussion on the latter (and what to do about) it was conducted a bit out-of-place on arch@ starting last August: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html I agree with many of the points in that posting -- especially with the observation that major versions are coming out too frequently and branches are being dropped too quickly. The release schedule should be such that at any given time, one should be able to install an X.Y release, with Y >= 2, that is not more than one major revision behind the latest development work and will be fully supported with security patches for 30 months or more. Administrators need this, and the fact that FreeBSD is not providing it is causing some to switch and others to become seriously unhappy. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Superstitious users and the FreeBSD logo
ROFL! This should be part of the official collection of artwork. If we used this, all we'd need to worry about is offending the atheists. ;-) --Brett Glass At 02:01 AM 12/4/2011, Alejandro Camuñez wrote: I made a nice and "family-friendly" version. Here you have :P http://box.jisko.net/i/de9679fd.png Enjoy Alex Vixgeck.- ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4055 - Release Date: 12/03/11 ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Superstitious users and the FreeBSD logo
At 01:26 AM 11/30/2011, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >Ask the guest if it is not also true cow's have horns so that means that all >cattle are Satan worshipers? You're being rational. Alas, ignorant and/or superstitious people are not. --Brett ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Superstitious users and the FreeBSD logo
At 07:52 PM 11/29/2011, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >Where's this? The hotel is in Laramie, Wyoming, but the guest is obviously from elsewhere or would not be a hotel guest. >Take a look at the horrible series of geometric figures like in the >banner at http://www.freebsd.org/. Alas, these still have horns. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Superstitious users and the FreeBSD logo
Everyone: I just got a call from the owner of a hotel for which we provide hotspot service. She says that a guest spotted the "Powered by FreeBSD" logo at the bottom of the login page, and was offended; the guest was convinced that either we or the hotel management "worshipped the Devil" and refused to stay at the hotel unless the logo was removed. The owner could make no headway by explaining that the besneakered mascot was a cartoon character and was a daemon, not the Devil. And she feared upsetting the guest even more if she said that large portions of the same software are inside every Mac and iPad. The hotel stands to lose more than $1000 if the guest, who had originally planned to stay for a long period, moves out. One of our tech support people also got a call directly from the hotel guest, who claimed that having the logo on the page constituted "abuse." The guest also claimed to be "losing money" because she wouldn't use the hotspot if there was a "devil" on the splash page. He didn't even realize what she was talking about at first He couldn't imagine why on Earth this person was calling him and going on about devils. Attempts at misguided religious censorship notwithstanding, I don't want to see one of my ISP's customers lose business. And I'd like to keep a FreeBSD logo on our hotspot page. Is there artwork that doesn't include horned creatures that might offend the ignorant or superstitious? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 4.x era
At 08:05 PM 9/25/2011, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: As you (Brett) should have known, the reason we did that was because of the enormous upheaval that 5.x represented. And we knew in advance that we'd have problems with 5.x as a result. Yes; because I was developing products based on it at the time, I attended and spoke at!) several BSD conventions during that period. I was concerned about the architectural upheaval. Too many radical changes were being undertaken at once, and that way lies instability. I never deployed a single 5.x machine in production, and had some lingering problems with 6.0 and 6.1. Now, FreeBSD is moving to 9.x before some of the glitches in 8.x are fully worked out. (There are serious bugs in 8.2-RELEASE that have forced me to move some production machines up to a snapshot of 8-STABLE.) I'm a bit worried about that. We had already recognized the folly of keeping the same release too long with 2.x. It isn't the number, per se, it's the quality. After 12 releases, 4.x was hard to beat. Still is. If the core team had focused on modifying one thing at a time, so that 5.x had incorporated fewer and less radical changes, that stability could have been carried forward. FreeBSD lost momentum relative to Linux because it didn't take that route. It also had trouble because, rather than looking forward to next generation SMP concepts, it looked backward toward BSDi's scheme. Do you find 8.x less stable? See above. 8.x might be really good quality by 8.4 or 8.5, but chances are that 8.3 will be the last release on that branch. But if you want 4.x again, take a look at DragonFly. That grew out of Matt Dillon's disagreement with the direction we took for 5.x (and thus all subsequent FreeBSD releases). Dragonfly took an approach which, IMHO, scales better to large numbers of CPUs than FreeBSD's current architecture. It's a lot like QNX, with which I also worked during the 90s: messaging, loose coupling between CPUs, and a strong emphasis on nonblocking IPC. Other OSes are coming around to that approach as multicore systems proliferate. Alas, Dragonfly as a project has a different problem. They have fewer developers, and so do not have the manpower to polish and polish every bit of the code. In any event, if I had my wish, I'd like to see development on 8.x extended to 8.6 or 8.7, with the best changes (e.g. softupdates with journaling) carefully backported from 9.x. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 4.x era
At 03:33 PM 9/15/2011, Allen wrote: If you look on Wikipedia, they say that the 4.x line was some of the most stable stuff ever made. Indeed it was. Back in those days, they didn't jump a major version number every three or four releases. They polished and polished and POLISHED each version of the OS. The 4.x branch reached 4.11-RELEASE before it was shut down, and 5.x was nowhere near as good. Wish they'd pick a branch (8-STABLE or 9-STABLE) and do this again. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Packet steering/SMP
The article at http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180022/Latest_Linux_kernel_uses_Google_made_protocols describes SMP optimizations to the Linux kernel (the article mistakenly calls them "protocols," but they're not) which steer the processing of incoming network packets to the CPU core that is running the process for which they're destined. (Doing this requires code which straddles network layers in interesting ways.) The article claims that these optimizations are Google's invention, though they simply seem like a common sense way to make the best use of CPU cache. The article claims dramatic performance improvements due to this optimization. Anything like this in the works for FreeBSD? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Popularity
At 06:06 PM 2/28/2010, Charlie Kester wrote: If you don't understand that there's an aesthetic aspect to Unix, you'll miss what a lot of people are complaining about with GNUish stuff. There's that, too. So many longwinded command line options that they had to start using double dashes. And Linux also tends to follow System V conventions, some of which were changed from the BSD ones by AT&T just to make things annoyingly different. Then again, there never really was a "UNIX style manual." There probably should have been, so that command line options (among other things) were more consistent. But as often happens, the coders were too busy coding to take a step back and consider this. In any case, I like the fact that I can hop back and forth between FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and the command line shell in MacOS without having to reprogram my fingers. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Popularity
At 11:53 AM 2/28/2010, Jamie wrote: In BSD (DragonflyBSD,FreeBSD,OpenBSD) there is a real attitude problem, the idea seems to be "GNU sucks and you should use BSD alternatives". The problem is with the licensing. Those of us who are professional developers and develop commercial software cannot safely inspect GPLed code for legal reasons. This is why I and many other developers favor a completely BSD-licensed solution. You don't really see GNU-folk bashing BSD, Actually, you do. And they do something even funnier -- they try to put their own stamp on Linux. (Just call it "Linux" in front of Richard Stallman, and you won't hear the end of it. He'll yell, "It's GNU/Linux. Gno-LINUX!") Which is doubly ironic because every Linux distribution contains bunches of code from BSD. ;-) --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: LinuxBSDos.com article
At 03:06 AM 2/18/2010, Charlie Kester wrote: http://linuxbsdos.com/2010/02/18/pc-bsds-graphical-firewall-manager/ "PC-BSD is ... the only BSD-based distribution thatâs in a position to compete with the best Linux desktop distributions..." Wish it were fully BSD-based! Alas, it uses a GPLed GUI. (Yes, I know that this doesn't matter to everyone, but it matters a lot to me personally. I want to be able to hack on the code without lending support to the political agenda that accompanies the GPL; I also do not want to open myself to appropriation of my work due to having inspected GPLed code. No flame wars, please.) In any event, if I were to run a FreeBSD-based desktop system (as opposed to servers and appliances, which is what I do with FreeBSD), I'd want the GUI to be BSD-licensed or Apache-licensed. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: lcd monitor manufacturer recommendation request
At 12:54 PM 11/21/2009, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: A CRT has an electrom beam that sweeps across the screen left to right and top to bottom, and the horizontal and vertical sync frequencies control how fast the beam moves. An LCD panel does not have an electron beam; it has discrete, individually adressable pixels. If you insist on hooking it up to an analog port, it will have to convert the analog signal to a digital signal in order to display it, and you will get sampling artifacts, aliasing etc. I don't care how good you are at writing modelines; you will never come up with one that looks better than what you will get with a digital connection. Unfortunately, some monitors with digital interfaces are not compatible with some LCD displays, even though the sockets and cables look like they match up. For example, I recently tried to hook an Asus "Eee Box", which has an HDMI connector, up to a Samsung LCD display using a digital cable. Couldn't get it to work at all, no matter how I adjusted the settings on both. But when I used an analog adapter and cable, it worked on the first try at maximum resolution, with (fortunately) few or no noticeable artifacts. Analog isn't ideal, but it's a good fallback. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is there anybody to use Linux?
At 11:44 AM 11/15/2009, Allen wrote: I find it hard to believe there are actually people in this world who won't use software because of the license it has, I am, among other things. a professional software developer. Why should I use software whose license is explicitly designed and intended to deprive me of a livelihood (as the GPL is)? There is also a real risk, if you have looked at GPLed code, that someone will argue that your future work is derivative of the code you saw and therefore must be given away for free. No professional developer can afford the risk of being caught in this trap. It happens that I do give away some of my work (including contributions to the BSDs), but this is by choice. when they recommend someone using Windows and Firefox... Do you see the humor in that? No humor at all. Windows is mostly closed source (though some of its utilities are actually licensed under the BSD license), and that's fine. Programmers have the right to earn a living. Firefox has an ugly multi-part license that I do not like much, but at least it offers some non-viral options for reuse of the code. MacOS includes some BSD-licensed stuff and some closed source; again, that's fine. On the other hand, you may recall the grief that NeXT went through when it made the mistake of using a GPLed compiler. In any event, the real dangers of using GPLed code are twofold. Firstly, if you read the source, there is the risk of "contamination" (as described above). Secondly, you are encouraging an agenda which is intended to deprive programmers of a livelihood. This is unethical. --Brett ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is there anybody to use Linux?
At 08:55 AM 11/15/2009, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: Since FreeBSD's flash is not good, i'm considering to use linux box for desktop, instead of FreeBSD. Please advice me about using Linux distro like as Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Fedora! Unfortunately, the best desktop Flash you are going to get is going to be for Windows. Not that I like Windows much, mind you, but I find that it makes a good browser platform and GUI terminal when used in conjunction with FreeBSD servers. As for WINE: I gave it up when it went GPL. I have no need for anything with a viral license. I am waiting for the day when I can build FreeBSD with a GPL-free toolchain and run without any GPLed code anywhere on the box. (This day may be coming soon, by the way. I hear through the grapevine that clang can build the FreeBSD userland and may not be far from being able to build the -CURRENT kernel.) --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
At 02:50 AM 10/30/2009, Randi Harper wrote: This bikeshed is old and tired. I don't want to paint it. I want to drown it in lighter fluid and set it on fire. I've never seen a bike shed. Unless perhaps it had a furry seat cover. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Bourne shell short-circuit operators improperly documented
At 06:01 PM 7/17/2009, Adrian Wontroba wrote: No it is succinctly correct but confusing (the UNIX way?). These operators work on exit codes where 0 = success = true and and !0 = failure = false. As I understand it, when it comes to UNIX result codes, 0 doesn't really mean "true" -- it means "no error." (In other words, it means "false.") Whereas any nonzero value means there was an error (and indicates what kind). In other words, it means that it's "true" that there was an error. So, the semantics of the operators are supposed to be that "false" is "true?" Aaargh! No wonder I don't use short circuit operators much. When zero equals one, it gets rather confusing. It's also confusing that they are called "AND" and "OR" operators (and look like the short-circuit AND and OR operators in other languages, which all do what you would expect). --Brett ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Bourne shell short-circuit operators improperly documented
Everyone: I'm teaching some new employees UNIX basics, and just ran into the following text on the sh(1) man page: Short-Circuit List Operators ``&&'' and ``||'' are AND-OR list operators. ``&&'' executes the first command, and then executes the second command if the exit status of the first command is zero. ``||'' is similar, but executes the second com- mand if the exit status of the first command is nonzero. ``&&'' and ``||'' both have the same priority. This is exactly backward. && is a "short circuit AND." It stops right away and doesn't evaluate its second operand if its first operand is 0. Why? Because if one operand of an AND operation is 0, we already know the result: 0. It can't be otherwise. Likewise, || is a "short circuit OR." It stops right away and doesn't evaluate its second operand if the first operand is 1 (or anything nonzero). Why? Because if one operand of an OR operation is nonzero, the result can never be 0. How could this error have persisted in the FreeBSD documentation for so long? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD Router Project (bsdrp)
[Original posting on FreeBSD-announce; discussion re-routed ;-) to FreeBSD-chat so as not to clutter the announcement list.] This looks great. We've been doing something similar, internally, for our own ISP. It's good that bsdrp's primary purpose is not to be a firewall; however good network administration demands that there be provisions for policy routing, traffic shaping, traffic prioritization, and gathering of traffic statistics -- things that are usually implemented via firewall software because it's handy to do so. (These features aren't readily accessible in simple GUI-based end user firewalls like m0n0wall or pfsense, but are all do-able on the ruleset level using IPFW2.) Are there provisions for this? The docs are a bit lean so far, so it is hard to tell. --Brett Glass At 11:40 PM 7/5/2009, Gerard van Essen wrote: Olivier Cochard-Labbé, founder of FreeNAS, has released the first alpha (0.1) image of his new project: BSD Router Project - http://bsdrp.net bsdrp is an open source, customised distribution of FreeBSD dedicated to offering IP routing services for small ISP's. The release 0.1 of BSDRP is a fully working prototype, to be used on real or virtual machines that boot from ATA device only (not usb). This first release includes: - Base FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT system (NanoBSD) for i386 - Customized script (config, upgrade, help, command completion, etc ) - Quagga ready to use (OSPFv2, OSPFv3, RIP, RIPng and BGP) You may ask, what is the difference between BSDRP and m0n0wall of pfSense. The main goal of BSDRP is not firewalling but routing. If you need a firewall don't use BSDRP: Use m0n0wall or pfSense. BSDRP is not for a home use, but for compagny use (small ISP's for example). BSDRP doesn't have a Web GUI: It's to be configured from a CLI only (like Cisco or Juniper) pfSense can be used for routing, but Olivier wanted to set up a Cisco or Juniper like project just for routing. Source: www.freebsdnews.net ___ freebsd-annou...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-announce-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: [ fbsd_chat ] Re: What is this forum for?
At 04:15 AM 6/3/2009, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Only by US standards. What do you think hurts a child more: to see a woman's breast or hear the word "fuck", or to see cowboys and indians (or their modern equivalent) disembowel each other? Some folks on the FreeBSD lists seem to find it far more inflammatory to talk about how to build a bike shed. ;-) --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FSF v Cisco on GPL reached settlement
Note that the FSF says that "compliance" is their number one goal. In other words, they are saying, "Bend over." This is one reason why I am very glad about the work on "un-GNUed" (but fully compatible) versions of utilities such as grep. I am looking forward to the day when I can build FreeBSD with a completely BSD-licensed toolchain. --Brett Glass At 06:36 PM 5/20/2009, Chuck Robey wrote: I expect that one major fallout of this is going to be, a number of companies waking up and realizing that they maybe should quit waiting for the other shoe to drop, and take some sort of pre-emptive action. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] Foundation Project Announcement
[Response to an announcement on the "FreeBSD-Announce" list] I hope that the project mentioned below includes an option to display a message which says, "Put that back!"... so that cached data can be written to the device and its consistency can be maintained. It might also be useful to add error recovery in situations where read-only media (e.g. a CD) is ejected. --Brett At 08:54 AM 11/12/2008, Deb Goodkin wrote: Dear FreeBSD Community, The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce one of the projects from the accepted project proposals! The project is to make FreeBSD tolerate the removal of active disk devices, such as when a USB flash device with a mounted filesystems is physically detached by a user. Currently the system may panic in this situation. The work involves adding proper reference counting to strategic portions of the kernel and modifying filesystems to properly handle "device lost" errors. Edward Tomasz Napierala is the developer working on this project. "We are very excited to be able to fund this project, which we know is of great interest to our users, especially in the desktop space," said Robert Watson, president of The FreeBSD Foundation. Robert also said, "The removable USB disk causing a crash turns out to be our #1 reported bug." "I am very happy to have the opportunity to work on this exciting project," said Edward Tomasz Napierala, FreeBSD developer. "It's just wrong when the system panics because you removed the pendrive!," he added. The project will be completed by February 2009. Sincerely, The FreeBSD Foundation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: noob question
At 07:30 PM 11/4/2008, mdh wrote: The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. Alas, Richard Stallman crashes frequently and often spews pseudo-random output. For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. Or if you're a software pirate, or it's September 19th, you can always post the output of uname -arrrr --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Google Chrome
At 09:09 PM 9/5/2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: It's worth keeping an eye on, but not to the point of paranoia. Think of how much bad publicity would be generated if google was discovered to be secretly collecting data. You have to remember that Doubleclick has been surreptitiously collecting data on Internet users for many years. Why should we expect anything different from them just because they have merged with Google -- especially since Google itself harvests users' personal data from their Gmail users' e-mail? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: slide rules
At 03:14 PM 5/20/2008, David Kelly wrote: >Finally! >Have been waiting for someone to find a FreeBSD-compatible sliderule! Slipsticks are especially good for calculating release schedules. ;-) --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Microsoft buys Yahoo
At 07:19 PM 2/1/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I've been through many M&A deals. MS will be able to successfully argue >that the MS+Yahoo! combo does not constitute a monopoly, since: >1) the share of search of the combined companies does not equal that of >it's competitor, Google (source: >http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=3627122) >2) The combination of MS and Yahoo! does not preclude any >search/portal/email competitor from entering the market. Anyone who thinks it doesn't constitute a monopoly hasn't looked at the typical user's browser window. Every Windows PC sold today comes with MSN as the start page and the Yahoo! toolbar (which claims to remove spyware, but spies on you itself and refuses to be removed) pre-installed. Combining the two will hold the average user, who doesn't even know how to change the browser start page and can't tell the Yahoo toolbar from the URL bar, completely hostage. >All of this assumes a few things: >1) Yahoo's shareholders believe the deal represents a good value Ironically, it's Microsoft shareholders who think it's a bad deal. Microsoft's stock dropped like a rock when the offer was announced, while Yahoo! stock went up. >2) Google doesn't start a bidding war for Yahoo that MS can't sustain >The Yahoo! BoD has a responsibility to solicit competetive offers, so who >knows? Microsoft has, what, 22 BILLION dollars in cash on hand? So, if Google were to win, it wouldn't be due to dollars. >But, assuming that MS is the suitor of choice, we will see MS and Yahoo! >minimizing their market penetration, until they are on the other side of >the close. > >I cannot see the US DoJ blocking this transaction. This administration will do whatever a big business wants, so it is highly unlikely to block ANY merger or acquisition, no matter how detrimental. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7
At 10:01 AM 12/11/2007, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29 > "... originally released Wine under the same MIT License as the X > Window System, but owing to concern about proprietary versions > of Wine not contributing their changes back to the core project, > work as of March 2002 has used the LGPL" What apparently happened is that one or two of the developers of Wine got their knickers in a twist about the idea that -- heaven forbid! -- someone might possibly make some money for the enhancements they made to Wine. (Never mind that the marketing and development costs for their commercial versions of Wine were eating all of their profits, and it was unclear whether they actually WOULD make any money.) Also, it is rumored (though I have not seen proof of it) that John Gilmore, an underwriter of the Wine project, threatened to withdraw support from some of these developers unless the license was switched to the GPL, thus forcing their hands. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7
It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it as a result. --Brett Glass At 10:59 AM 12/6/2007, Tom Wickline wrote: >Oh yea, were seeking contributors... if your interested in Wine on >FreeBSD and believe you can >help us out see : >http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/wine-review-is-currently-seeking.html ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Release Information update
At 06:06 AM 7/9/2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >"Start FreeBSD 7.0 Release Process" does not mean "Release 7.0". We are >on schedule. This is good. However, since we can't use a .0 release in production, we are very eager to see a date posted for 6.3. Has one been set? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: What is the best supported Wireless card?
At 10:09 PM 1/3/2007, Sunnz wrote: >I am looking to build a new desktop which is going to have wireless >access through my router. > >I have been using Atheros's chipset with the ath drivers, yes it works... > >But after read this article: http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/293 > >I begin to think if there are better vendors out there? > > From the article it seems that Ralink and Atmel are the most >co-operative vendors to open source communities... > >So how good do you think they are? The best for 802.11b (not g, alas) is undoubtedly the Intersil Prism 2.5 and kin. This is in large measure because the chipset contains a lot of embedded intelligence. The load on the host CPU is therefore very light and there's less opportunity for coding mistakes in the host driver. And the embedded firmware is now as about error-free as any wireless code is going to get. Atmel's 802.11b chipsets use the Intersil Prism, by the way. --Brett ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Bandwidth Monitoring program
Add a few IPFW "count" rules to count the bytes and packets. Then, periodically harvest and reset the counters via a cron job and write the results to a file. You can then prepare tables and charts which are as simple or as fancy as you please, without resorting to SNMP (which isn't secure). A little bit of code in your favorite scripting language will do it. And of course you can output to a graphing package, though for me a simple histogram using asterisks has sufficient precision in most cases. --Brett Glass At 09:48 AM 12/5/2006, Benjamin Adams wrote: >I'm on a network that has a normal store firewall, setup as a NAT. I'm >trying to find a way to monitor all bandwidth by clients through that >firewall. I don't have the ability to just put an inline box to examine >packets. Is there a program where I can see whats going on from the >computer on that network. > >What I'm looking for is: >client ip : 2.3 GB >List of ports used in bandwidth amounts. > > >Thanks for any help, >Ben Adams >___ >freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: GPL License violation
Isn't it funny how quick the proponents of what the FSF calls "Free" software (note the capital "F", which by itself is a sure sign of propaganda or dogma) are to try to restrict its use? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Reason #465132 to Love FBSD....
At 01:35 PM 5/12/2006, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >Patch Tuesday again, I guess. Yes. We call them "Black Tuesdays," because the Windows machines go out and mount a very effective denial of service attack on our supply of bandwidth. We've had to work out all kinds of ways to limit the impact. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Your May 2006 ShillerMath Tidbit
A "shill or math" tidbit? No, just a shill. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CORRECTION: Your ShillerMath Tidbit
And please note that the message below is still spam and inappropriate for the mailing list. The spam has been reported to the poster's ISP. At 11:18 AM 4/1/2006, Larry Shiller wrote: Please note that the April 2006 Larry Shiller/ShillerMath tidbit sent in the past 24 hours should have choice D as the correct answer. We regret the error. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released!
This is obviously an April Fool's Day joke, but come to think of it, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a 2.2.9-RELEASE, with all of the major bugs and security holes fixed, for embedded systems. It'd be possible to have a true "Pico" BSD again --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Your ShillerMath Tidbit
Why is this spam on the list?
Also, it's worth noting that the author gives the wrong answer to his
sample SAT question below. The only correct answer is 4 (D), not 5 (E).
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--Brett
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Re: headless server...
At 09:40 AM 6/8/2005, Przemysław Nowaczyk wrote: >I've tried that too. The box beeps 1 long and 3 short ones.. as far as I know >it 'tells' that way that it cannot be run without a video card.. >hehe, stupid mainboard :P Try telling it not to test or shadow video memory. On a classic IBM PC, the BIOS always expects to find a block of RAM at B000: (monochrome adapter) or B800: (color adapter) and gives one long and three short beeps if it can't find it. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: apple moving to x86
At 01:40 PM 6/7/2005, Miguel Mendez wrote: >How so? Apple is a niche market. I find their switch to x86 pretty >depressing actually, although I understand their reasons. Who says it'll be a total switch? I could easily imagine Apple switching to x86 for its lower end products (or even selling MacOS X for PC clones) but continuing to use PowerPC for high end workstations and servers. There's some actual potential to make a profit selling hardware into these niches, whereas there's little or none in the highly saturated consumer desktop and notebook markets. >The boy you trained, gone he is. Twisted by the Dark Side, young >Jobs has become. There is another. Seriously: in many folks' opinion, Jobs *was* the Dark Side and should have done something like this years ago. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: AMD Athlon64...
At 06:12 PM 6/3/2005, Daniel Eischen wrote: >C'mon, you can get supported ethernet cards for $20 or less. It's a rackmount system. Only one PCI slot, and it's spoken for. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: AMD Athlon64...
At 07:11 PM 5/16/2005, Glenn Sieb wrote: >Daniel O'Connor said the following on 5/16/2005 9:05 PM: > >>The vge driver is in the 5.3 GENERIC kernel. I normally make my kernels >>fairly minimal but it seems the vge driver doesn't work properly as a module, >>only built into the kernel. >> >>Maybe you're thinking of the nvnet driver. >Yup. I am... Any status on this driver? I have a client who is about to go to Linux because he can't get the motherboard's NIC to work. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Are there actual any woman in the freebsd world
At 05:16 AM 3/16/2005, Gert Cuykens wrote: Actualy i dont want to read the manual of a woman i just want to talk to a real one. Do a little interview of what its like be a woman :) From what women have told me, it's like being a man, only a little different. ;-) --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Are there actual any woman in the freebsd world
At 04:32 PM 3/15/2005, Gert Cuykens wrote: >ok i will narrow the specification a bit, which of you ever >encountered a woman that knows the difference between giving her your >phone number or giving her a ip address ? I married one. ;-) --Brett ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
