Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?

2004-10-09 Thread Joshua Tinnin
OK, first of all this thread is not worthwhile to people in this forum. 
I'm sorry for having initially added to the noise, but I do want to try 
to salvage something useful from this. If your request is sincere, then 
please hear me out.

On Friday 08 October 2004 07:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 10/8/04 2:25:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is going to be
  so great.  I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you
  don't have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so
  when its done I'll test it.

 Why don't you download and install the latest 5.3 beta and test it?
 This is the only way to test 5.3, as there is no release yet. If
 you refuse to test it due to its beta status, then you should
 probably reconsider your challenges until 5.3 is stable and you can
 test it for yourself. If this is the case, then all you're doing now
 is making noise ... and, yes, trolling.
 -

 I haven't made any challanges. My point was that there are a lot
 of people making claims they have no ability to substantiate. And
 obviously I am correct.

There is a major point here that you seem to miss. One of the beauties 
of open source is the fact that it's available for you to test, read 
the code, hack, patch, fold, spindle and mutilate. If you expect people 
to take your counterclaims seriously, then you need to do some testing 
of your own. If you have a point to make, then back it up with data. If 
you cannot do this, then don't expect people to take you seriously, 
especially in a forum which is meant to be for technical help.

The way you have approached this subject is not constructive. We have 
not learned anything from this exchange. However, we may have if you 
had meant for your comments to be constructive. I don't think you did. 
But if you want, I'd be more than happy to see your comparisons if 
you're willing to deal with this in a way which would benefit all 
parties concerned, by testing both systems, as thoroughly as you want. 
I'm quite interested in how the two systems size up. The more people 
that test it, the better.

 A guess a troll is anyone who questiong the powers that be. Must be
 a bunch of communists running the show here.

That's ridiculous and it's not necessary.

- jt
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SSH and one time passwords

2004-10-09 Thread Gene Bomgardner
Hi -
I've implemented S/Key on my 5.2.1 system. It works well with telnet, but 
ssh just bypasses the whole thing and accepts the Unix password. How can I 
get ssh to recognize and use S/Key auth? I don't see any entry in 
sshd_config nor in the handbook.

Any help appreciated as always...
Thanks
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Re: Hard Disk failure

2004-10-09 Thread Mike Woods
Dean Hollister wrote:
Yep, the kernel reports it cannot read a couple sectors at bootup.
Is it just a case of fdisk'ing/label'ing the new drive with a standard 
MBR, setting up the filesystems and copying to them. Then the new 
drive should just boot normally?
Pretty much, i've done it a few times and never had a problem, tis also 
a good time to make any changes to your partiton structure :)

Remember to make any changes to the fstab that might need doing like 
moved partitions or differing device names!


Mike Woods
IT Technician
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Warning: a geometry of 116280/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect

2004-10-09 Thread Thomas Beer
Dear All,

I searched the web, archives and asked in some mailing lists
with no satisfactory solution. The situation is an Thinkpad
T42 with a 60GB harddisk, XP as well preinstalled as a service
partition. Repartitioning was unproblematic. If I try to
install any of the 5.x branch on t a free primary partition I
get a warning in sysinstall that a geometry of 116280/16/63 for ad0
is incorrect. This is covered largely on the net with no clear
cut solution. It seems to be related with FBSD and (relatively)
large harddisks independent from multi- or single boot systems.
If I try to install a 4.x branch release (4.9/4.10) no warning
will be displayed. Someone remarked that this has not necessarily
to be good luck, but may also destroy my partition.

Could anyone shed further light on this situation and provide
a guiding line how to get FBSD installed without destroying other
OSs?

Quite a long questions for a list like this.

Thanks in advance for any support Tom

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Gnome Package

2004-10-09 Thread Bill Schmitt (SW)
I've been getting my feet wet with FreeBSD. I have a package/ports 
question that I'm hoping someone can shed some light on. I think the 
question belongs here rather than on a Gnome list, because it's related 
to the various types of installations available to FreeBSD, but if I 
should go over to a Gnome list, please let me know.

I've done the installation several times in different ways, beginning 
with installing everything from a CD I burned from an ISO image (4.9, 
because I can't get past the boot on later versions, which is a 
different issue). When I installed Gnome directly from 
/stand/sysinstall, either from the disk or via FTP, it went relatively 
quickly. More recently, I decided to look at getting a completely (?) 
current installation. This is a sandbox system, so I did a minimal 
installation from formatting the drive on up using FTP as a source, then 
installed and ran cvsup (without gui) with ports-all configuration. Then 
I installed portupgrade, did a pkgdb -F, and then ran portupgrade 
-Pra. I installed XFree86 using pkg_add -r XFree86 and it took a 
little longer than when I had installed if from sysinstall, but it 
didn't seem like a lot. Then I executed pkg_add -r gnome2. 24 hours 
later, it's still running. I'm not super-concerned, but I'm trying to 
understand what the differences are between the original, from the CD, 
installation and this one. It's a slow machine (300MHz Pentium 2) so I 
don't expect stellar performance, but it seems rather long.

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Re: Warning: a geometry of 116280/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect

2004-10-09 Thread Chuck Swiger
Thomas Beer wrote:
I searched the web, archives and asked in some mailing lists
with no satisfactory solution. The situation is an Thinkpad
T42 with a 60GB harddisk, XP as well preinstalled as a service
partition. Repartitioning was unproblematic. If I try to
install any of the 5.x branch on t a free primary partition I
get a warning in sysinstall that a geometry of 116280/16/63 for ad0
is incorrect.
If the installer sees your existing XP and manufacturer service partitions, 
and they seem OK in terms of size, most likely everything is fine and you can 
ignore the warning about the geometry being incorrect.

--
-Chuck
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Perl and OpenWebMail question...

2004-10-09 Thread Victor Hugo Bilouro
hi,
to resolv type:
# use.perl port
The OS will use perl 5.8
regards
Bilouro
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RE: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?

2004-10-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of NetAdmin
 Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?
 
 
 dang, how long is this thread gonna go on?

As long as you keep posting to it.

  Is it that important? 


Obviously to you it is or you wouldn't have posted.

Silence speaks volumes.

And learn to trim your attribution list, please.

Ted 
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Re: Gnome Package

2004-10-09 Thread Aaron Siegel
Hello



On Saturday 09 October 2004 03:50, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote:




 I installed XFree86 using pkg_add -r XFree86 and it took a 
 little longer than when I had installed if from sysinstall, but it
 didn't seem like a lot. Then I executed pkg_add -r gnome2

I have not had much luck installing large collections of packages with the 
pkg_add -r. Unless I am using a ports tree that was included in an official 
release the resulting installation is out of sync. with my ports tree. I have 
much better results using portsupgrade.  Portupgrade derives the package 
version from the port collection while pkg_add -r seem to download the 
package from the lastest release. Since you have just cvsup the most recent 
ports tree the packages you are installing may not be the same version as 
what you have in you ports tree. Run portsversion -v | less to verify the 
package you are installing are in sync. with your ports.

I am not sure why it is taking so long to install your ports. Do you have a 
fast internet connection? When installing binary packages your internet 
connection is going to be what dictates the speed of the install not your 
processor. The task is not processor intensive.  



  24 hours  
 later, it's still running. I'm not super-concerned, but I'm trying to
 understand what the differences are between the original, from the CD,
 installation and this one. It's a slow machine (300MHz Pentium 2) so I
 don't expect stellar performance, but it seems rather long.

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[SOLVED] Re: NFS locking issues = rpc.lockd: 100024 RPC: Port mapper failure

2004-10-09 Thread Joan Picanyol
* Joan Picanyol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20040930 19:22]:
 For some unknow cause my 5.3-BETA6 workstation (calvin) cannot lock
 files over my NFS mounts to my 4.10 server (grummit). I've been all
 afternoon trying to sort it out with no luck.

My loopback interface was not being started.

tks
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Re: Age of Empires on FreeBSD --- Possible?

2004-10-09 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 09:20:37PM -, Hugo Silva wrote:
 I really need to get Age of Empires II - The Conquerors Expansion working
 on my (only workstation) FreeBSD box.
 
 I don't have windows anymore and I'll not switch back to be able to play,
 but I'd like to know if it is possible at all to run the game on BSD.
 Perhaps winex ? I heard it is compiling OK now with several patches..
 
 Also read people could run Diablo II and WarCraft III, so perhaps it's
 possible to play AoE with winex.
 
 Where can I get a working winex version for FreeBSD? (5.2.1-RELEASE)
 
 If any of you could make this game run on FreeBSD, I'd love to know how it
 was achieved.

Hi Hugo,

I'm guessing your new to FreeBSD. FreeBSD works with a port system. This
can be compaired with the Debian apt-get. You can find more information
about this in the handbook that you can find at www.freebsd.org/handbook.

As to you're question. I didn't find these games in the ports. If these
games exist for linux then you can rum them on FreeBSD by enable the
linux support. You could also install wine (although you may need a
windows partion for this) or vmware (you _don't_ need a windows partion
for this). These are in the ports.

You can install these by:
cd /usr/ports/emulators/wine; make install  make clean
cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3; make install  make clean

-- 
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Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply.
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Re: Warning: a geometry of 116280/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect

2004-10-09 Thread Thomas Beer
 If the installer sees your existing XP and manufacturer service
 partitions,
 and they seem OK in terms of size, most likely everything is fine and you
 can
 ignore the warning about the geometry being incorrect.

What seems strange between 4.x and 5.x in the fdisk partition
table is, after deleting the slice yet to install FBSD
and create a FBSD slice 4.x simple deletes and creates the
slice, 5.x adds an additional unused slice.

Cheers Tom
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Re: Hard Disk failure

2004-10-09 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Mike Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dean Hollister wrote:
 
  Yep, the kernel reports it cannot read a couple sectors at bootup.
 
  Is it just a case of fdisk'ing/label'ing the new drive with a
  standard MBR, setting up the filesystems and copying to them. Then
  the new drive should just boot normally?
 
 Pretty much, i've done it a few times and never had a problem, tis
 also a good time to make any changes to your partiton structure :)
 
 Remember to make any changes to the fstab that might need doing like
 moved partitions or differing device names!

It's also worth pointing out that you really want to do the copy with
dump(8) and restore(8) to get file flags and special files copied
properly...  
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Re: Can't compile wine port

2004-10-09 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Alexandr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I cvsuped ports tree and do this:
 cd /usr/ports/emulators/wine
 make install
 
 and get in end this message:
 ../.././..//gcc-3.4-20040827/libiberty/fibheap.c:395: warning: implicit
 +declaration of function `memset'
 gmake[2]: *** [fibheap.o]  1
 gmake[2]: Leaving directory
 +`/usr/ports/lang/gcc34/work/build/i386-portbld-freebsd5.2.1/libiberty'
 gmake[1]: *** [all-target-libiberty]  2
 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc34/work/build'
 gmake: *** [bootstrap-lean]  2
 *** Error code 2
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc34.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/wine.
 
 
 This I get when type some 'make'.
 
 What can I do???

It looks like you're running 5.2.1.
Are you using the ports that came with that release, or something more
current?  

If you are in fact running FreeBSD 5.2.1, you should be able to edit
the file /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile and remove the USE_GCC line.
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Re: Warning: a geometry of 116280/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect

2004-10-09 Thread Thomas Beer
 Hmm.  If this unused slice is very tiny (less than 1% of the total
 capacity),
 it may be the remainder of the disk which unused due to the way the
 partition
 table values get rounded.

 I suppose I've gotten used to only being able to fit 80 or so real
 megabytes
 onto a 100MB drive due to this and that (1.0e6 MB versus 1.05e6 MiB,
 newfs' reserved space, etc)...

Its 63 bytes. But why is there another boot slice created
under 5.x and not under 4.x?

Tom
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Parental Controls

2004-10-09 Thread Joe Kraft
I'm looking for some type of parental control that would allow easy 
screening of e-mail coming in and out for my kids.

I'm thinking of something where all inbound and outbound communications 
would need to be approved before being sent.  Maybe it could be as easy 
as having postfix deliver me a copy of what they're sending.

From what I've seen, this is a question that tends to drift off topic 
quickly.  Please only technical replies, no philosophical, first 
amendment, parenting type replies.

Thanks,
Joe.
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Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?

2004-10-09 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/9/04 1:15:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dang, how long is this thread gonna go on?  Is it that important?  I see
a lot of good questions and equally good answers on this list, but I
think this particular thread is starting to stoop beneath us all...
Do you really read every thread? There are 100s of threads on here, many
of them of no use, so why do you read them if you're not curious about it?

It seems the most important question one could ask about FreeBSD is 
whether you should run 4.x or 5.x, and they always tell you to run 5.x 
because it suits the needs of Windbag River for guinea pigs. As long as 
you know you're a guinea pig, then you have your answer. I thought it 
was worth noting for the masses who unwittingly believe that a higher 
number release means better performance by default.

Note that it also took quite a bit a beating to get them to admit that 

1) They dont know the answer to the Subject 
or
2) Yahoo runs something quite different than what is available generally since
they've substantially modified it.

I yield the floor  to the fat man in the toupee.
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RE: Parental Controls

2004-10-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
There is a sendmail milter that copies all in and out mail to
a file which you can of course later review.

I would recommend against moderating/approving.  You want your
monitoring to be as unobtrusive as possible so the kids aren't 
encouraged to get hotmail or yahoo e-mail accounts and access
them from a webinterface at the library, etc.

Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Kraft
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Parental Controls
 
 
 I'm looking for some type of parental control that would allow easy 
 screening of e-mail coming in and out for my kids.
 
 I'm thinking of something where all inbound and outbound communications 
 would need to be approved before being sent.  Maybe it could be as easy 
 as having postfix deliver me a copy of what they're sending.
 
  From what I've seen, this is a question that tends to drift off topic 
 quickly.  Please only technical replies, no philosophical, first 
 amendment, parenting type replies.
 
 Thanks,
 Joe.
 
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Re: Gnome Package

2004-10-09 Thread Bill Schmitt

   Well, it's a cable connection that doesn't seem to be having any
   difficulty. It does seem to be compiling a lot, which surprised me.
   From what you said, is the next step to do a portupgrade -Pra, again
   (with the portinstall option when, as I'm sure will happen, I do
   another start from scratch)?
   Thanks,
   Bill
   Aaron Siegel wrote:

Hello



On Saturday 09 October 2004 03:50, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote:




  

I installed XFree86 using pkg_add -r XFree86 and it took a 
little longer than when I had installed if from sysinstall, but it
didn't seem like a lot. Then I executed pkg_add -r gnome2


I have not had much luck installing large collections of packages with the 
pkg_add -r. Unless I am using a ports tree that was included in an official 
release the resulting installation is out of sync. with my ports tree. I have 
much better results using portsupgrade.  Portupgrade derives the package 
version from the port collection while pkg_add -r seem to download the 
package from the lastest release. Since you have just cvsup the most recent 
ports tree the packages you are installing may not be the same version as 
what you have in you ports tree. Run portsversion -v | less to verify the 
package you are installing are in sync. with your ports.

I am not sure why it is taking so long to install your ports. Do you have a 
fast internet connection? When installing binary packages your internet 
connection is going to be what dictates the speed of the install not your 
processor. The task is not processor intensive.  



  

24 hours  
  

later, it's still running. I'm not super-concerned, but I'm trying to
understand what the differences are between the original, from the CD,
installation and this one. It's a slow machine (300MHz Pentium 2) so I
don't expect stellar performance, but it seems rather long.

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Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?

2004-10-09 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/9/04 12:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just hope that pounding packets through a socket  and 
timing mySQL selects aren't the entirety of OUR team's arsenal.

And it's not just this sentence although this is one of the most
blatent.  You are using verbage and terminology that clearly sets
you in opposition to the rest of us, users and developers, of FreeBSD.
If this isn't a challenge you don't know the meaning of the word.
Maybe you think its a challenge because the words have teeth?

Who is the rest of us in your estimation? Those under the thumb of
wind river, or those of us trying to run small business who would prefer
not to be bamboozled into using something new because you need
free testers for your code? I monitored this list for months,and I never
once heard any one of you tell anyone that 4.x was a better choice
if running your business with the most efficient current solution was 
your goal. You don't care about the freeBSD community,  you care
about your own agenda, whoever you are. If you're not going to be
honest with the community, then there's going to be a separation of
you with the agenda and us with the need for honest answers to
our questions so that we can run our businesses effectively.

I love freeBSD. I have the skills to get my own answers as to the 
suitability of one OS or one version to another. Most people on this 
list don't. So don't steer them to 5.x when you know its not yet ready 
for prime time,  because people rely on you to give good, honest 
answers in order to earn a living. 
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Wiki on FreeBSD

2004-10-09 Thread Alan Curtis
In a previous post under a phpwiki subject thread, I claimed to have 
successfully installed phpwiki. I lied. Although I did install it and 
can edit pages from my laptop, I cannot edit pages from any other 
machine, including the server I installed it on; I am asked to login 
with a username and password. This may have something to do with the 
note the Richard Lynch wrote, but as I am not literate in php, I don't 
know where to begin to solve this problem. I started down this route as 
I was successful in installing phpwiki on my Mac OS X laptop.

So I gave up on phpwiki and tried kwiki instead. It was advertized as 
'easy to install'. Indeed it was. I installed it but cannot get it to 
work. I can access the .cgi pages but they give me the text and do not 
run the program. The instructions must assume some step that I have not 
taken.

I am looking for an easy to install wiki that an 
apache/perl/php/whatever novice like me can install without getting a 
migrane. Any suggestions?

Alan
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RE: Planning a Upgrade (5.2.1 -- 5.3)

2004-10-09 Thread Toomas Aas
Hi!

 Do you know of any utilities that I can use to read through my existing
 /etc/master.passwd file and dump usernames and plain text passwords to a
 file?

You don't need to get the plain text passwords. It's sufficient to get 
the password hashes as they are in master.passwd, because when you move 
them to the new system they still represent the same passwords.

The way I would proceed in your situation is this:

Open the files /etc/passwd, /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group in text 
editor and look for non-system users/groups (the ones you've added 
yourself). Copy over the relevant lines to backup files in secure 
location. Of course, make sure to not change the original files.

Once you have 5.3 installed, open /etc/group in text editor and add the 
lines you saved from your original /etc/group. Do not modify the lines 
representing system groups.

Then issue the command 'vipw'. This opens your master.passwd file in 
vi, so you better know how to use vi ;-). Go to end of file and paste 
the lines that you saved from your original master.passwd. Exit, saving 
the changes. Make sure that the home directories specified in your 
newly-added lines exist.

This should be it.

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Multi-Booting With Windows XP Pro

2004-10-09 Thread Bryan Nelson
Deoes anyone have any experience getting FreeBSD to multi-boot with Windows
XP Pro?  Am using XP Pro SP2 and FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE.  I installed the
boot manager but everytime I reboot it boots straight to XP.  Any help would
be appreciated.

Bryan
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Re: Hard Disk failure

2004-10-09 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 04:07:27PM -0600, Dean Hollister wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 A quick question, and I've searched the FAQ/Handbook to no avail...
 
 One of the machines I maintain has developed bad sectors on it's /usr 
 filesystem. I can mount the filesystem R/O, so is it possible to install a 
 new drive, partition it in an identical fashion to the faulty drive and 
 copy the filesystems across to the new drive and then boot from the new 
 drive?
 
 Is there a walkthrough on the best way to do this?
 

This sounds like what you're looking for:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK

I've never done this but it seems to be the traditional recommendation for
this sort of thing.

 Regards,
 
 d.

-- 
Danny
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Re: Multi-Booting With Windows XP Pro

2004-10-09 Thread luke
there's a section in the handbook about booting. try using a boot.flp
or fixit.flp to boot and then run `fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0` i
think...check the handbook to be sure. that should rewrite the MBR and
give you fbsd's boot manager


On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:04:53 -0400, Bryan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Deoes anyone have any experience getting FreeBSD to multi-boot with Windows
 XP Pro?  Am using XP Pro SP2 and FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE.  I installed the
 boot manager but everytime I reboot it boots straight to XP.  Any help would
 be appreciated.
 
 Bryan
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RE: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?

2004-10-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?


 In a message dated 10/9/04 12:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I just hope that pounding packets through a socket  and
 timing mySQL selects aren't the entirety of OUR team's arsenal.

 And it's not just this sentence although this is one of the most
 blatent.  You are using verbage and terminology that clearly sets
 you in opposition to the rest of us, users and developers, of FreeBSD.
 If this isn't a challenge you don't know the meaning of the word.
 Maybe you think its a challenge because the words have teeth?

 Who is the rest of us in your estimation?

Anyone who uses FreeBSD.  Anyone who contributes to FreeBSD obviously
has to use it.  And, even people standing on the street and throwing
rocks - if they are doing it with knowledge, such as pointing out
SPECIFIC issues - they are contributing to FreeBSD.

Someone standing out on the sidewalk who has never run a FreeBSD release and
knows little about it, who wants to throw rocks, he's not contributing.

 Those under the thumb of
 wind river, or those of us trying to run small business who would prefer
 not to be bamboozled into using something new because you need
 free testers for your code?

Nobody is forcing anyone to use any new FreeBSD.  You can use FreeBSD
3.X or FreeBSD 2.X or even FreeBSD 1.X if you can find it, that is.
Many people have CD's of the old FreeBSD versions who will make them
available on the Internet.  You want to run FreeBSD 1.1.5.1?  I have it
on a QIC tape somewhere if you really want to.

 I monitored this list for months,and I never
 once heard any one of you tell anyone that 4.x was a better choice
 if running your business with the most efficient current solution was
 your goal.

Why should we?  The instructions that tell you to use FreeBSD 4.X are
right in the release itself!  Haven't you seen this web page:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/early-adopter.html

I quote:

the Release Engineering Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] specifically discourages
users from updating from older FreeBSD releases to 5.2.1-RELEASE

These instructions are in every FreeBSD 5.X CD.  Why are you blaming
us if you cannot be bothered to read instructions?

 You don't care about the freeBSD community,  you care
 about your own agenda, whoever you are. If you're not going to be
 honest with the community, then there's going to be a separation of
 you with the agenda and us with the need for honest answers to
 our questions so that we can run our businesses effectively.


OK so now your trying to say there's an us out there on the sidewalk
throwing rocks with you.  I got news for you, there ain't no us out there.
There's just you

I won't deny that some perhaps less-experienced FreeBSD users that
are on the list are coming at it from the Microsoft mentality that
everything older than 3 months is crap, and we all gotta run out there
and buy the latest version of Windows/Office/Crapola software that is
on sale.

But nobody with any real experience who has been working with FreeBSD
for any length of time will tell you to ashcan all your FreeBSD 4.X
servers and go to 5.X immediately.  They might tell you to not run FreeBSD
3.X - if you haven't installed all the security patches, of which there
are an enormous number now.  But there is no reason to abandon an older
FreeBSD 4.X server if it is working fine for you, as long as you keep
whatever portions of it are exposed to the Internet, patched with
current patches.

 I love freeBSD. I have the skills to get my own answers as to the
 suitability of one OS or one version to another. Most people on this
 list don't. So don't steer them to 5.x when you know its not yet ready
 for prime time,  because people rely on you to give good, honest
 answers in order to earn a living.

I don't blindly steer people to FreeBSD 5.X  In fact, officially I
say the following on my website:

http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/faq/verstouse.html

If someone on-list or via private e-mail asks me about going to 5.X
I will ask them what their needs are and base my reply on that.  If
they tell me they are a small business that needs ONE server and
has an extra PC I will tell them to use 4.X - my book is aimed at
that group. If they are a medium sized business that has 10 or so servers
I will tell them to use 4.X for their most critical stuff but that they
need to start using 5.X on some of their stuff to get up to speed on
it.  And if they are a Yahoo-sized business with programmers on
staff specifically tasked to optimize whatever OS they are running
I will tell them they need to be running all 5.X and they need to
be working closely with the development team members, not me.
And there are mailing lists specifically for that group.

FreeBSD 5.X ain't 

NFS(d)

2004-10-09 Thread michaela
I was attempting to setup NFS between my usermachine (nfs-client) and 
emailserver (nfs-server) using the instructions from the FreeBSD Handbook 
(section 19.5).  Both machines are on my LAN.

I wanted to have my users be able to get their email straight from 
the /var/mail directory via NFS, as opposed to having it fetched remotely via 
PINE. 

Everything runs great, EXCEPT... When I goto look at the /var/mail directory 
on the usermachine I get this listing.

([EMAIL PROTECTED])-# ls -l /var/mail
total 584
-rw-rw  1 apticlemail  0 Oct  9 01:33 .apticle.pop
-rw-rw  1 1003   mail  0 Oct  9 12:25 .cyberjedi.pop
-rw-rw  1 stunnelmail  0 Oct  8 17:21 .jisaac.pop
-rw-rw  1 cyberjedi  mail  0 Oct  9 14:24 .michaela.pop
-rw-rw  1 michaela   mail  0 Oct  8 07:42 .sysadmin.pop
-rw-rw  1 apticlemail  0 Oct  9 01:33 apticle
-rw-rw  1 astronut   mail  0 Sep  4 14:34 astronut
-rw-rw  1 mtanakimail   3256 Sep 16 11:02 babyboy
-rw---  1 106106   0 Sep  5 01:07 clamav
-rw-rw  1 babyboymail  0 Sep  4 14:35 cpu
-rw-rw  1 1003   mail  0 Oct  9 12:37 cyberjedi
-rw-rw  1 sysadmin   mail  0 Sep  4 22:26 donations
-rw-rw  1 stunnelmail  0 Oct  8 17:21 jisaac
-rw-rw  1 cyberjedi  mail  0 Oct  9 14:24 michaela
-rw-rw  1 clamav mail 380174 Oct  5 11:19 michaeljr
-rw-rw  1 goose  mail  0 Sep  4 14:36 mtanaki
-rw---  1 70 700 Sep 12 14:03 pgsql
-rw---  1 root   wheel162836 Oct  9 04:19 root
-rw---  1 cpustunnel   0 Sep  8 16:21 stunnel
-rw-rw  1 michaela   wheel 18523 Oct  9 06:00 sysadmin
-rw-rw  1 trivashmail  0 Sep  4 14:38 trivash
([EMAIL PROTECTED])-#


Notice how the OWNERS and GROUPS of certain users (entries) don't belong to 
the proper owners.  This causes, PERMISSION DENIED errors while trying to 
read email in PINE because the mailbox isn't 'owned' by the specific user.

The /var/mail directory on my usermachine (nfs-client) is the same as on the 
emailserver (nfs-server).  However, when running NFS the filepermissions 
change the /var/mail directory on the userserver (nfs-client).

I have the option -maproot=root in my /etc/exports file on the emailserver 
(nfs-server).

Any idea to what might be causing this, and how I would resolve it???  I was 
thinking that even though I have the SAME users on each box, the UIDs are 
DIFFERENT on the two machines.  Could that be it?


Thanks in advance

 Michael
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Re: Multi-Booting With Windows XP Pro

2004-10-09 Thread Luke
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:04:53 -0400
From: Bryan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Multi-Booting With Windows XP Pro
Deoes anyone have any experience getting FreeBSD to multi-boot with Windows
XP Pro?  Am using XP Pro SP2 and FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE.  I installed the
boot manager but everytime I reboot it boots straight to XP.  Any help would
be appreciated.
Bryan
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GRUB works for me with 5.2.1 and XP Home.
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Re: RAID 1 in HP NetServer LC 2000

2004-10-09 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Freitag, 8. Oktober 2004 15:47 schrieb Muhammad Reza:
 Dear All,
 Howto setup RAID 1 in HP NetServer LC 2000 ? I have 2 Seagate HDD that
 want to be mirror 1:1,
 Can i do that from Symbios software or tool from my FreeBSD 4.10 ?

With 4.10 you have the choice of vinum and ccd, in 5.3 you also have gmirror 
for RAID1. See the man pages for details, ccd is quiet easy, vinum is a bit 
more complex but more flexible too.

-Harry


 regards
 reza
 ---snip---
 sym0: 896 port 0x2000-0x20ff mem
 0xfd00-0xfd001fff,0xfd002000-0xfd0023ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci3
 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
 sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
 sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
 sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
 sym1: 896 port 0x2400-0x24ff mem
 0xfd004000-0xfd005fff,0xfd002400-0xfd0027ff irq 5 at device 6.1 on pci3
 sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
 sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
 sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
 sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
 ---snap---
 ..
 ..
 --snip--
 da0 at sym1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: SEAGATE ST318405LW 5063 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
 da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
 Enabled
 da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C)
 da1 at sym1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
 da1: SEAGATE ST318405LW 5063 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
 da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
 Enabled
 da1: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C)
 ---snap---





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Re: NFS(d)

2004-10-09 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Samstag, 9. Oktober 2004 20:41 schrieb michaela:
 I was attempting to setup NFS between my usermachine (nfs-client) and
 emailserver (nfs-server) using the instructions from the FreeBSD Handbook
 (section 19.5).  Both machines are on my LAN.

 I wanted to have my users be able to get their email straight from
 the /var/mail directory via NFS, as opposed to having it fetched remotely
 via PINE.

 Everything runs great, EXCEPT... When I goto look at the /var/mail
 directory on the usermachine I get this listing.

 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])-# ls -l /var/mail
 total 584
 -rw-rw  1 apticlemail  0 Oct  9 01:33 .apticle.pop
 -rw-rw  1 1003   mail  0 Oct  9 12:25 .cyberjedi.pop
 -rw-rw  1 stunnelmail  0 Oct  8 17:21 .jisaac.pop
 -rw-rw  1 cyberjedi  mail  0 Oct  9 14:24 .michaela.pop
 -rw-rw  1 michaela   mail  0 Oct  8 07:42 .sysadmin.pop
 -rw-rw  1 apticlemail  0 Oct  9 01:33 apticle
 -rw-rw  1 astronut   mail  0 Sep  4 14:34 astronut
 -rw-rw  1 mtanakimail   3256 Sep 16 11:02 babyboy
 -rw---  1 106106   0 Sep  5 01:07 clamav
 -rw-rw  1 babyboymail  0 Sep  4 14:35 cpu
 -rw-rw  1 1003   mail  0 Oct  9 12:37 cyberjedi
 -rw-rw  1 sysadmin   mail  0 Sep  4 22:26 donations
 -rw-rw  1 stunnelmail  0 Oct  8 17:21 jisaac
 -rw-rw  1 cyberjedi  mail  0 Oct  9 14:24 michaela
 -rw-rw  1 clamav mail 380174 Oct  5 11:19 michaeljr
 -rw-rw  1 goose  mail  0 Sep  4 14:36 mtanaki
 -rw---  1 70 700 Sep 12 14:03 pgsql
 -rw---  1 root   wheel162836 Oct  9 04:19 root
 -rw---  1 cpustunnel   0 Sep  8 16:21 stunnel
 -rw-rw  1 michaela   wheel 18523 Oct  9 06:00 sysadmin
 -rw-rw  1 trivashmail  0 Sep  4 14:38 trivash
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])-#


 Notice how the OWNERS and GROUPS of certain users (entries) don't belong to
 the proper owners.  This causes, PERMISSION DENIED errors while trying
 to read email in PINE because the mailbox isn't 'owned' by the specific
 user.

 The /var/mail directory on my usermachine (nfs-client) is the same as on
 the emailserver (nfs-server).  However, when running NFS the
 filepermissions change the /var/mail directory on the userserver
 (nfs-client).

 I have the option -maproot=root in my /etc/exports file on the emailserver
 (nfs-server).

 Any idea to what might be causing this, and how I would resolve it???  I
 was thinking that even though I have the SAME users on each box, the UIDs
 are DIFFERENT on the two machines.  Could that be it?

Right, only UID counts. You want to think about yp/nis or a LDAP user 
database!
But you have to synchronize UIDs and GIDs to make NFS useful.

-Harry



 Thanks in advance

  Michael

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RE: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?

2004-10-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Note that it also took quite a bit a beating to get them to admit that 
 
 1) They dont know the answer to the Subject 
 or
 2) Yahoo runs something quite different than what is available 
 generally since
 they've substantially modified it.
 

No, it is just I would be surprised if they didn't.

Yahoo like any large company almost certainly has patentable ideas
and a crew of lawyers reviewing everything.  I would also expect
they have a patent portfolio.  Otherwise nothing would prevent some
competitor ripping off their ideas and setting up a duplicate
yahoo website.  I would guess - since it is usual for this in
most large companies - that some of these ideas are implemented in
the FreeBSD they run.

I don't work at Yahoo so I can freely speculate.  And my speculations
are founded on what is normal and usual for most larger companies.
Nobody that works at Yahoo and actually knows the truth would be
able to even speak hypothetically about what runs at Yahoo, as they
would almost certaily be under an NDA.  (something that is also
normal and usual for most large companies)

Ted
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Re: Multi-Booting With Windows XP Pro

2004-10-09 Thread David Jenkins
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:04:53 -0400, Bryan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Deoes anyone have any experience getting FreeBSD to multi-boot with Windows
 XP Pro?  Am using XP Pro SP2 and FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE.  I installed the
 boot manager but everytime I reboot it boots straight to XP.  Any help would
 be appreciated.
 
 Bryan
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Yep,

Don't use the boot manager from FreeBSD. IMHO, I've had less problems
by copying BOOTSECT.BSD to C:\ and modifying your boot.ini file in
Windows.

Search google. I've just tried, and I pulled these results.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=enq=windows+xp+freebsd+dual+boot+bootsect.bsdspell=1

Hope this helps,

David
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Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?

2004-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 01:07:17PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 10/9/04 12:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I just hope that pounding packets through a socket  and 
 timing mySQL selects aren't the entirety of OUR team's arsenal.
 
 And it's not just this sentence although this is one of the most
 blatent.  You are using verbage and terminology that clearly sets
 you in opposition to the rest of us, users and developers, of FreeBSD.
 If this isn't a challenge you don't know the meaning of the word.
 Maybe you think its a challenge because the words have teeth?
 
 Who is the rest of us in your estimation? Those under the thumb of
 wind river, or those of us trying to run small business who would prefer
  ^^

*laughs*

Come and join us in 2004 sometime, you might like it here.

Kris


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cannot install freebsd

2004-10-09 Thread alex
while i am trying to install freebsd 5.2.1 i get and error:
something about video card timing 10.000msec
panic:ohci_add_done: addr 0x4000 not found
cpuid = 0;
i have searched most of the freebsd handbook, any forum i could find, 
and talking to a firend i can find NOTHING about this.  apparently i'm 
the only newbie to ever have this problem. 

i thought it was my keyboard and mouse being usb, so i tried ps/2 ones.  
the only difference is one it hits that error it actually reboots in 
15sec like it says. 

i believe that the problem is with the default smp kernel, or my 
motherboard. 
-
i have a gigabyte 7dpxdw-p motherboard
2 gig of ecc mem
gigabyte nvidia 5700
no modem
no extra nic card
no extra monitor
-
coud you plz help

thanks
draejin
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Re: NFS(d)

2004-10-09 Thread Gary Dunn
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 08:41, michaela wrote:

 
 
 Notice how the OWNERS and GROUPS of certain users (entries) don't belong to 
 the proper owners.  This causes, PERMISSION DENIED errors while trying to 
 read email in PINE because the mailbox isn't 'owned' by the specific user.
 
 The /var/mail directory on my usermachine (nfs-client) is the same as on the 
 emailserver (nfs-server).  However, when running NFS the filepermissions 
 change the /var/mail directory on the userserver (nfs-client).
 
 I have the option -maproot=root in my /etc/exports file on the emailserver 
 (nfs-server).

This only affects root. For security reasons, by default, root is not
allowed to map to root across NFS. Only allow it when you know your LAN
is well secured.

 
 Any idea to what might be causing this, and how I would resolve it???  I was 
 thinking that even though I have the SAME users on each box, the UIDs are 
 DIFFERENT on the two machines.  Could that be it?

Yes, that is the problem. On my three box network I solve it by creating
all accounts on a single box, then using rsync to distribute. There are
three password files and the /etc/group file to keep in sync. I can't
recall the names of all three password files, I think it's /etc/passwd,
/etc/passwd.master, and /etc/passwd.db. You'll find them.

-- 

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stdout/stderr/???

2004-10-09 Thread Richard Lynch
I have a situation where NIC code printf's out stuff.

I'd *LIKE* to collect that output.

Under Linux, I'd use 21

I read somewhere that under FreeBSD, I could do:
(xxx  log.out)  log.err

This works fine for xxx == make buildkernel

If fails miserably for xxx == ifconfig, however.

I can sorta get what I want by starting X-Windows, and using a
terminal/shell to do the command.  Then the messages I desire to log are
A) suppressed from by shell (which is BAD) but B) logged into
/var/log/messages (which is close enough to what I want)

Alas, the real problem comes when my driver code sends the machine into an
infinite loop, spewing out messages so fast I can't even read them, and
the only way out is to forcibly power-off the laptop by removing battery
and power cord.

Upon re-boot, the additions I would expect in /var/log/messages (or the
bziped older logs) do not contain the messages I need to see.

I have also tried:
ktrace xxx

Again, for the case where the machine is not in an infinite loop, it works
real nifty;  But when I'm forced to chop power, I get nothing.

Is there something that will:
A) copy (or re-direct) all output somewhere, *AND*
B) force it to be synchronous and unbuffered and whatever else has to
occur to get the file to be saved?

Any other suggestions for how to get this process to not lock up the machine?
control-C ineffective
CTRL-ALT-F2 followed by CTRL-ALT-DELETE can sometimes get me to another
tty, but that tty does not accept input

H.  Perhaps I should try to cron a killall ifconfig for shortly
after the command I'm about to type...  Or something like:

ifconfig ...; sleep 3; killall ifconfig

Any other ideas?

Please cc me, I'm so far behind on reading -questions that I've
unsubscribed until I catch up...

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FreeBSD Release Question

2004-10-09 Thread Balakumar Velmurugan
Hi,
We are starting development on a new project that would go 
production in the fall of 2005. I have been evaluating Release 4.x and 
5.x branches for the suitability. Our target platform is AMD64 and AMD32 
uni-processor systems. We like most of 5.x features except for its 
performance and conerns about the availability of a STABLE version in 
our time window,  and I would like your opinion to choose the right 
FreeBSD version tree to start the development right now. BTW,  we dont 
have any plans to run on SMP architecture, our target platform will 
always be uni-processor based. Questions are,

1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and be 
comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ?
2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x 
released versions ?
3.  What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he 
primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various 
TCP/UDP services ?
4.  What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he 
primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various 
TCP/UDP services ?

Thanks in advance.
Bala
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mondo rescue

2004-10-09 Thread RYAN vAN GINNEKEN
Has anyone gotten mondo rescue to work with freebsd? I am 
lost please any info would be welcome.

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Re: FreeBSD Release Question

2004-10-09 Thread Bill Moran
Balakumar Velmurugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
  We are starting development on a new project that would go 
 production in the fall of 2005. I have been evaluating Release 4.x and 
 5.x branches for the suitability. Our target platform is AMD64 and AMD32 
 uni-processor systems. We like most of 5.x features except for its 
 performance and conerns about the availability of a STABLE version in 
 our time window,  and I would like your opinion to choose the right 
 FreeBSD version tree to start the development right now. BTW,  we dont 
 have any plans to run on SMP architecture, our target platform will 
 always be uni-processor based. Questions are,
 
 1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and be 
 comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ?

5.3 is supposed to be stable, and it's expected to be on part with 4.x
performance, and it's supposed to release before the end of the month.

From what I've seen and heard, it looks like all that is going to
happen.

 2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x 
 released versions ?

Yes.

 3.  What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he 
 primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various 
 TCP/UDP services ?

5 and 4 will probably be about the same come next year.

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http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: How do you know how to install ports? (like vmware3)

2004-10-09 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 08:09:21PM +0530, Subhro wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:03:15 -0400, bsdfsse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  For example, I have been trying to install the vmware3 port - and I find
  all kinds of tidbits all over the web about little things that need to
  be done to get it to work.  The information sometimes covers version
  2.0, sometimes 3.2, and sometimes 4.5. If someone just goes in to
  /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3 and does a make install, how would they
  know what else to do?
 
 The best part of the FreeBSD port collection is, you dont need to know
 what else to do. The port tree is designed in such a way that if you
 try to install a particular port, then the system would fetch all the
 dependancies automatically unless you specifically ask it not to do
 so. Just go through the vmware manual to get an idea about how to
 configure vmware. You need not worry about the installation.

To get apps to work you sometimes most do some configuration. Apache,
php, samba, ect. are all examples of this. Usaly its all about editing
one or more configuration files in /usr/local/etc/ and some times /etc/
and getting startup scripts to work at /usr/local/ect/rc.d/. Vmware is a
exception to this in my book.

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pccard is started every other time

2004-10-09 Thread gradeAstudent.com
Hello anyone have any experience configuring pccards? Ive installed my
favourite os (version 4.10) on my laptop but my pccard is only ever
initialized and started on every other boot meaning that every second time
to get it going I eject the card and reinsert it and it comes up. Is there a
trick to getting it up every time on boot?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Andrew Firestone


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Re: KDE 3.3 upgrade and Sound

2004-10-09 Thread Ned Harrison
Alex de Kruijff wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 04:14:49AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 

On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 06:06:37PM -0500, Ned Harrison wrote:
   

I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and upgraded from KDE 3.1 to 3.3.  After 
completing the upgrade, I found that I did not have any system sounds.  
Following the instuctions in the UPDATING file in /usr/ports, I removed 
the knotifyrc file.  After logging out and back into KDE, I now have 
system sounds but applications like XMMS and KsCD will not produce 
sounds, yet they access the the CD drive and will list files correctly.

I have also upgraded from XFree86 to xorg. 

What additional information that I could provide could help on this 
matter?  Or am I just overlooking something in the Kcontrols?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 

Start KMix and change the volume levels. 
   

For some unknow reason the volume has bin set to 0% by default in the
3.3.0.
 

Boy, you know how to make me feel dumb! ;-)
Works perfectly. I had spent a couple of hours trying to figure out 
whether arts or some other program was blocking it.
Thank you very much!

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Re: FreeBSD Release Question

2004-10-09 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:07:00 -0700
Balakumar Velmurugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
  We are starting development on a new project that would go 
 production in the fall of 2005. I have been evaluating Release 4.x
 and 5.x branches for the suitability. Our target platform is AMD64
 and AMD32 uni-processor systems. We like most of 5.x features except
 for its performance and conerns about the availability of a STABLE
 version in our time window,  and I would like your opinion to choose
 the right FreeBSD version tree to start the development right now.
 BTW,  we dont have any plans to run on SMP architecture, our target
 platform will always be uni-processor based. Questions are,
 
 1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and
 be comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ?

Which did you test? Did you turn debugging and ect off? Tried
5.3beta7 yet?

 2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x 
 released versions ?

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/schedule.html

 3.  What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he
 primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various 
 TCP/UDP services ?
 4.  What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he
 primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various 
 TCP/UDP services ?

Not tried forwarding yet on 5x, but for TCP/UDP services, not speed
problems with them on my box.

Wait a bit till 5.3 is released and then bench market it after
optimizing it.
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Re: pccard is started every other time

2004-10-09 Thread terry tyson
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:00:34 +1000, gradeAstudent.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello anyone have any experience configuring pccards? I've installed my
 favourite os (version 4.10) on my laptop but my pccard is only ever
 initialized and started on every other boot meaning that every second time
 to get it going I eject the card and reinsert it and it comes up. Is there a
 trick to getting it up every time on boot?
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Andrew Firestone

Did you turn on pnp in the bios? I could never get my pccard to work right
till I did that.
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Re: pccard is started every other time

2004-10-09 Thread terry tyson
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 19:09:38 -0500, terry tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:00:34 +1000, gradeAstudent.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello anyone have any experience configuring pccards? I've installed my
  favourite os (version 4.10) on my laptop but my pccard is only ever
  initialized and started on every other boot meaning that every second time
  to get it going I eject the card and reinsert it and it comes up. Is there a
  trick to getting it up every time on boot?
 
  Kind Regards,
 
  Andrew Firestone
 
 Did you turn on pnp in the bios? I could never get my pccard to work right
 till I did that.
 --
 Terry
 
Scratch that, meant to say off. ;P
-- 
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Re: Age of Empires on FreeBSD --- Possible?

2004-10-09 Thread Hugo Silva
Hi,

The game isn't on ports and is available for windows only (it's a
Microsoft game, figure)

Vmware shouldn't run the game, plus I don't have a cdkey for it. I've
tried wine and it kinda sucks on FreeBSD, I couldn't even get mIRC to run,
let alone a game.

My only chance seems to be winex but I don't know where to get it for free
(or if it can be downloaded freely for bsd at all), and I'm not sure if it
compiles OK on 5.2.1; I've heard people had some success with some
patches.


 On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 09:20:37PM -, Hugo Silva wrote:
 I really need to get Age of Empires II - The Conquerors Expansion
 working
 on my (only workstation) FreeBSD box.

 I don't have windows anymore and I'll not switch back to be able to
 play,
 but I'd like to know if it is possible at all to run the game on BSD.
 Perhaps winex ? I heard it is compiling OK now with several patches..

 Also read people could run Diablo II and WarCraft III, so perhaps it's
 possible to play AoE with winex.

 Where can I get a working winex version for FreeBSD? (5.2.1-RELEASE)

 If any of you could make this game run on FreeBSD, I'd love to know how
 it
 was achieved.

 Hi Hugo,

 I'm guessing your new to FreeBSD. FreeBSD works with a port system. This
 can be compaired with the Debian apt-get. You can find more information
 about this in the handbook that you can find at www.freebsd.org/handbook.

 As to you're question. I didn't find these games in the ports. If these
 games exist for linux then you can rum them on FreeBSD by enable the
 linux support. You could also install wine (although you may need a
 windows partion for this) or vmware (you _don't_ need a windows partion
 for this). These are in the ports.

 You can install these by:
 cd /usr/ports/emulators/wine; make install  make clean
 cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3; make install  make clean

 --
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OpenOffice-1.1 Build errors

2004-10-09 Thread Nick


I'm attempting to build the OpenOffice-1.1 port on FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE.  I've seen the 
ELF error before, notably when I try to view some PDFs it complains that type 3 is 
not known. 

The output of brandelf -l is: 
known ELF types are: FreeBSD(9) Linux(3) Solaris(6) SVR4(0)

Anyhow, here is the output of make install clean, shortly after it begins to build 
project berkelydb:
** 

../java/src/com/sleepycat/db/Dbt.java
ELF binary type 0 not known.
Abort trap
*** Error code 134

Stop in 
/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1/work/oo_1.1.2_src/berkeleydb/unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/db-3.2.9/out.
dmake:  Error code 1, while making './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_built_so_berkeleydb'
---* TG_SLO.MK *---

ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making 
/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1/work/oo_1.1.2_src/berkeleydb
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 'build_all'
---* TG_SLO.MK *---
*** Error code 255

Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1.
***

Please advise.


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Upgrading from 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 to 5.3-BETA7

2004-10-09 Thread John Oxley
I have cvsupped my /usr/src recently and doing make buildworld fails
with the below message.  Please could someone help me.

This is my sup file:
*default host=cvsup.rucus.ru.ac.za
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5
*default delete use-rel-suffix

src-all


And this is the error:
=== games/fortune/strfile
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for
/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f .depend -a-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include
/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c
echo strfile: /usr/lib/libc.a
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib/libegacy.a  .depend
cc -O -pipe  -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c
/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c
cc -O -pipe  -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include  -static
-L/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib -o strfile strfile.o -legacy
/usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start':
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference to `_init_tls'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
reknaw:/usr/src#
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Re: Parental Controls

2004-10-09 Thread Eric Crist
On Oct 9, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Joe Kraft wrote:
I'm looking for some type of parental control that would allow easy 
screening of e-mail coming in and out for my kids.

I'm thinking of something where all inbound and outbound 
communications would need to be approved before being sent.  Maybe it 
could be as easy as having postfix deliver me a copy of what they're 
sending.

From what I've seen, this is a question that tends to drift off topic 
quickly.  Please only technical replies, no philosophical, first 
amendment, parenting type replies.

Thanks,
Joe.
I know with sendmail, this is something as simple as aliasing their 
account.  give them some arbitrary username, and alias that to their 
email address.  alias that email address to you your account.

HTH
-
Eric F Crist
Secure Computing Networks


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Re: Wiki on FreeBSD

2004-10-09 Thread Eric Crist
On Oct 9, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Alan Curtis wrote:
In a previous post under a phpwiki subject thread, I claimed to have 
successfully installed phpwiki. I lied. Although I did install it and 
can edit pages from my laptop, I cannot edit pages from any other 
machine, including the server I installed it on; I am asked to login 
with a username and password. This may have something to do with the 
note the Richard Lynch wrote, but as I am not literate in php, I don't 
know where to begin to solve this problem. I started down this route 
as I was successful in installing phpwiki on my Mac OS X laptop.

So I gave up on phpwiki and tried kwiki instead. It was advertized as 
'easy to install'. Indeed it was. I installed it but cannot get it to 
work. I can access the .cgi pages but they give me the text and do not 
run the program. The instructions must assume some step that I have 
not taken.

I am looking for an easy to install wiki that an 
apache/perl/php/whatever novice like me can install without getting a 
migrane. Any suggestions?

Alan
My best guess is that you failed to set the ExecCGI option for the 
directory in apache.  If you don't do that, the server presents the 
file as text.

HTH
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an ASM puzzle

2004-10-09 Thread bingwang
what do u mean by 0xf001 ,is it -1 or -4095
what is the representing way?
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Re: Multi-Booting With Windows XP Pro

2004-10-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Deoes anyone have any experience getting FreeBSD to multi-boot with Windows
 XP Pro?  Am using XP Pro SP2 and FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE.  I installed the
 boot manager but everytime I reboot it boots straight to XP.  Any help would
 be appreciated.

I have Xp pro and FreBSD 4.9 RELEASE running on my office desk machine.
No Problem.  Works fine.

You need the MBR on the disk and a boot record on both slices.  I am sure
that the XP slice has its boot record OK because you say it is booting.\
But I would suspect that your FreeBSD slice does not.   

Presuming you used the sysinstall to create the disk slice and partitions
probably you selected to install the MBR on that page, but forgot to
mark the slice as bootable in the page where you created the slice and
told it to be a FreeBSD slice.It is a little obscure if you are not
looking for it.   I seem to remember you have to hit an 's' to tell it
to make it bootable, though I might have the character wrong.  It tells
you in the help menu at the bottom of that page.

When the system boots, the MBR looks for bootable slices and if you did
not select to make the FreeBSD slice bootable, it will ignore it and not
put up a menu item for it.  If there is only one bootable slice (eg
your XP slice in this case) and none other, then it won't even bother
putting up a boot selection menu.  It will just boot in to the only
slice it knows is bootable.

jerry


 
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han/en keys

2004-10-09 Thread Kevin Downey
I have a nice keyboard that I bought in korea. It has 2 extra keys for
switching between korean and english(han/en and hanja). But they don't
show up has events in X running xev. This there something else I need to
do. I looked at the kbdmap util and didn't see anything for Korean. But
I am not sure if that is even the right place to begin looking. I would
eventually like to be able to type korean, but for now just getting
those keys to work would be great.

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Re: stdout/stderr/???

2004-10-09 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:53 am, Richard Lynch wrote:
 I have a situation where NIC code printf's out stuff.

 I'd *LIKE* to collect that output.

 Under Linux, I'd use 21

I think (hope) you mean 21


 I read somewhere that under FreeBSD, I could do:
 (xxx  log.out)  log.err

And here:
   ( xxx  log.out )  log.err

The difference is not Linux vs FreeBSD but a question
of the shell you are using -- I assume 'bash' under Linux
and 'csh' (or tcsh) under FreeBSD. You could install 'bash
on FreeBSD and set this as your default shell -- or you
could nominate 'sh' as your default shell which, in this 
respect, behaves the same as 'bash'.


 This works fine for xxx == make buildkernel

 If fails miserably for xxx == ifconfig, however.

Can't see why it should work differently for 'ifconfig'
unless maybe this time you have the '' in the wrong place.
In any case I would not expect massive amounts of output from
ifconfig.
 

 I can sorta get what I want by starting X-Windows, and using a
 terminal/shell to do the command.  Then the messages I desire to log are
 A) suppressed from by shell (which is BAD) but B) logged into
 /var/log/messages (which is close enough to what I want)


I don't understand what you are saying here. X-windows (of itself) should
not process the commands differently. I suspect you have some fancy desktop 
program with options set that interfere.

 Alas, the real problem comes when my driver code sends the machine into an
 infinite loop, spewing out messages so fast I can't even read them, and
 the only way out is to forcibly power-off the laptop by removing battery
 and power cord.


What driver code? Are you trying to write your own? for what device?

An infinite loop while running or compiling the driver code?

If when the driver code is installed and run  then you are fiddling will 
kernel mode, and if you mess up all bets are off.

You have tried Cntrl-Z and Cntrl-Alt-F2 ?

 Upon re-boot, the additions I would expect in /var/log/messages (or the
 bziped older logs) do not contain the messages I need to see.

 I have also tried:
 ktrace xxx

 Again, for the case where the machine is not in an infinite loop, it works
 real nifty;  But when I'm forced to chop power, I get nothing.

 Is there something that will:
 A) copy (or re-direct) all output somewhere, *AND*
 B) force it to be synchronous and unbuffered and whatever else has to
 occur to get the file to be saved?

 Any other suggestions for how to get this process to not lock up the
 machine? control-C ineffective
 CTRL-ALT-F2 followed by CTRL-ALT-DELETE can sometimes get me to another
 tty, but that tty does not accept input

Are you sure? 
The CTRL-ALT-F2 hopefully gets you a character mode tty with a login prompt.
But you'll need to login to proceed. CTRL-ALT-DELETE at this stage should
cause a reboot.


 H.  Perhaps I should try to cron a killall ifconfig for shortly
 after the command I'm about to type...  Or something like:

 ifconfig ...; sleep 3; killall ifconfig

 Any other ideas?

 Please cc me, I'm so far behind on reading -questions that I've
 unsubscribed until I catch up...

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RE: Parental Controls

2004-10-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Aliasing only captures incoming, not outgoing, mail.

Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Crist
 Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:39 PM
 To: Joe Kraft
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Parental Controls
 
 
 On Oct 9, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Joe Kraft wrote:
 
  I'm looking for some type of parental control that would allow easy 
  screening of e-mail coming in and out for my kids.
 
  I'm thinking of something where all inbound and outbound 
  communications would need to be approved before being sent.  Maybe it 
  could be as easy as having postfix deliver me a copy of what they're 
  sending.
 
  From what I've seen, this is a question that tends to drift off topic 
  quickly.  Please only technical replies, no philosophical, first 
  amendment, parenting type replies.
 
  Thanks,
  Joe.
 
 
 I know with sendmail, this is something as simple as aliasing their 
 account.  give them some arbitrary username, and alias that to their 
 email address.  alias that email address to you your account.
 
 HTH
 -
 Eric F Crist
 Secure Computing Networks
 
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/sbin/init not being loaded

2004-10-09 Thread Milo Hyson
I'm in the process of setting up a diskless client, and when the kernel
(GENERIC from 4.10-RELEASE) boots it fails to load /sbin/init, reverting
instead to /stand/sysinstall which loads and runs just fine. The init
program exists in the proper directory on the server, but it just won't
load. The kernel gives no error message. I've verified I'm using the
right filesystem by renaming /stand/sysinstall to something else, which
causes the client to panic (as it should). I tried boot -v, which just
confirms that /sbin/init is being tried (as is /sbin/oinit and
/sbin/init.bak). However, nothing seems to work except for sysinstall.

Any suggestions?

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Re: FreeBSD Release Question

2004-10-09 Thread Balakumar Velmurugan
Vulpes Velox wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:07:00 -0700
Balakumar Velmurugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hi,
We are starting development on a new project that would go 
production in the fall of 2005. I have been evaluating Release 4.x
and 5.x branches for the suitability. Our target platform is AMD64
and AMD32 uni-processor systems. We like most of 5.x features except
for its performance and conerns about the availability of a STABLE
version in our time window,  and I would like your opinion to choose
the right FreeBSD version tree to start the development right now.
BTW,  we dont have any plans to run on SMP architecture, our target
platform will always be uni-processor based. Questions are,

1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and
be comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ?
   

Which did you test? Did you turn debugging and ect off? Tried
5.3beta7 yet?
 

I tried 5.2.1 and havent tried the beta7, yet.  Can you tell me, what is 
the release tag for beta7 ?. RELENG_5_3_BETA7 didnt work for me !! 
Thanks for your pointers.

 

2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x 
released versions ?
   

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/schedule.html
 

3.  What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he
primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various 
TCP/UDP services ?
4.  What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he
primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various 
TCP/UDP services ?
   

Not tried forwarding yet on 5x, but for TCP/UDP services, not speed
problems with them on my box.
Wait a bit till 5.3 is released and then bench market it after
optimizing it.
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