forcing TLS auth in /usr/ports/qmail-tls install
Hi all, Not sure if this is the right spot to ask, but it seems to be particularly pertaining to FreeBSD installations. So here I am. I'm trying to install qmail-tls. The installation is successful - almost right out of the ports. Now I'm trying configure qmail such that only TLS auth is allowed through from the mail client. Digging through the previous related forums, I hope to find the clean solution via this route: http://qmail.jms1.net/tls-auth.shtml It mentions that the config can be put in /service/smtp/run, which in the FreeBSD context it does not exist. I tried to set similar environment variables before calling tcpserver, but it does not work either. Can someone advise what is the equivalent in FBSD8.1? Much appreciated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
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Re: qmail or postfix?
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Re: qmail or postfix?
Jarrod == Jarrod Slick jar...@e-sensibility.com writes: Jarrod If you know of any specific problems with postfix that would Jarrod substantiate your claim I encourage you to inform the project's Jarrod maintainers. In fact, given the legacy of other security tools created by the author of Postfix (Wietse Venema) (SATAN, TCP Wrappers, Coroner's Toolkit), I'd say that postfix was *also* designed from the start as a secure MTA. It certainly looks that way. I've met Wietse in person... he's an upstanding guy. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Paul Macdonald p...@ifdnrg.com wrote: On 01/02/2011 19:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and pretty darn good at m4. Or is that m4()dnl()? :) But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And reasonably named too!) so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me) what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of changing? sendmail's support of a UUCP backend maybe? But apparently, it's possible to do that in postfix too[1] so I don't really know of any compelling reason to stick to sendmail, except for being accustomed to configuring and managing it, which is a purely subjective matter. [1]: http://www.postfix.org/UUCP_README.html -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
version i tried. that turns off certain maintainers, and it would put me off aswell postfix on the other hand is more in tune with the rest of the system thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Nowadays I think Postfix is much more complete and efficient mail system than Qmail although this one it's a pretty small and good code by design mail system... but the problem is that you'll probably need more features than qmail-1.03 gave unless... so you will need to patch it, so you're entering non qmail native code... By my professional experience... Postfix will give you more oportunities and features for things going well... Some years ago I set up qmail servers and I like qmail and I like playing with it's code... but should say that nowadays unless IMHO... Postfix is basically the nowadays opensource mail system. Bye!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On 2/1/2011 at 8:44 PM Paul Macdonald wrote: |On 01/02/2011 19:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: | | No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and | pretty darn good at m4. Or is that m4()dnl()? :) | | But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to | do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And | reasonably named too!) | |so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me) | |what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of |changing? = If you are happy with sendmail, why change a working thing? For me, the need to move to Postfix became very apparent once I wanted to make some [what I thought to be] simple configuration changes (different transports for different domains, virtual mailboxes, etc.). I found sendmail's configuration to be daunting. So I looked elsewhere. About ten years ago I started using Postix and I've not looked back. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 03:32:26PM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? thanks in advance I've used both and both have their advocates/supporters. I used qmail for about 10 yrs and picked it when basically the choice was qmail, sendmail and smail. It worked well and was install and configure and don't do anything else for 10 years. Then a few years ago I was building a new machine and decided to re-assess the MTA; I chose Postfix and am very pleased with it. I chose Postfix because more people run it and support was likely easier to come across, not because of any perceived inadequacies of qmail. When you do decide on your MTA, I'd recommend buying a book which documents it. What I'd also say is that Postfix is probably easier to install and configure. I installed qmail from source but used the port for Postfix. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On 02-02-2011 16:37, Frank Shute wrote: What I'd also say is that Postfix is probably easier to install and configure. Agreed. Postfix is *really* easy and well documented; so much that I've seen people claim that it can't be that good since it's so easy to configure, with great defaults and human-readable config files, and powerful means hard to configure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
When you do decide on your MTA, I'd recommend buying a book which documents it. Oh, definitely. Particularly if you decide on qmail. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
qmail or postfix?
Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 09:32, Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? thanks in advance That's a loaded question. Both have advocates, just like vi or emacs, Linux or Nothing, FreeBSD or OpenBSD, OS X or Windows and X Window System or CLI. That said, if you know neither and your requirements are met by both of them, I'd opt for postfix. It isn't as burdened with dependencies and, from what I can tell, it enjoys a larger, more active support community. kmw ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:32:26 +0100 Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com articulated: Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? qmail is not actively supported by its developer. It requires numerous patches, etc to bring it up to acceptable servicable standards. Postfix is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS world. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
I like qmail, but I would, having written a book about it. If you want something that works reasonably well out of the box, I'd use Postfix. If you want something you can tweak to do whatever you want, qmail is more of a toolkit. Don't use the version of qmail in ports, it includes way too many sloppily written patches. netqmail 1.06 is a reasonable place to start. http://qmail.org/netqmail/ I've replaced the qmail SMTP daemon with Bruce Guenter's mailfront, which is in the ports collection. It has a flexible plugin design which I've used to do better logging, spamassassin and DCC during the SMTP session, etc. Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies, Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On 2/1/2011 at 10:23 AM Jerry wrote: |On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:32:26 +0100 |Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com articulated: | | Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? | |qmail is not actively supported by its developer. It requires |numerous patches, etc to bring it up to acceptable servicable standards. | |Postfix is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by |its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding |documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS |world. = It is a good thing I read all the replies before I posted mine, as your reply is almost word-for-word identical to what I was going to say. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mike. the.li...@mgm51.com wrote: On 2/1/2011 at 10:23 AM Jerry wrote: |On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:32:26 +0100 |Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com articulated: | | Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? | |qmail is not actively supported by its developer. It requires |numerous patches, etc to bring it up to acceptable servicable standards. | |Postfix is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by |its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding |documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS |world. = It is a good thing I read all the replies before I posted mine, as your reply is almost word-for-word identical to what I was going to say. :) Postfix hands down is better, recent, well maintained and excellently documented ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mike. the.li...@mgm51.com wrote: On 2/1/2011 at 10:23 AM Jerry wrote: |On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:32:26 +0100 |Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com articulated: | | Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? | |qmail is not actively supported by its developer. It requires |numerous patches, etc to bring it up to acceptable servicable standards. | |Postfix is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by |its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding |documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS |world. = It is a good thing I read all the replies before I posted mine, as your reply is almost word-for-word identical to what I was going to say. :) yeah... what he said... !!! :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
Outback == Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.com writes: |Postfix is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by |its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding |documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS |world. = It is a good thing I read all the replies before I posted mine, as your reply is almost word-for-word identical to what I was going to say. :) Outback yeah... what he said... !!! :) +1 :) No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and pretty darn good at m4. Or is that m4()dnl()? :) But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And reasonably named too!) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On 01/02/2011 19:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and pretty darn good at m4. Or is that m4()dnl()? :) But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And reasonably named too!) so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me) what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of changing? -- - Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting - t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: p...@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com - IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:44:24 + Paul Macdonald p...@ifdnrg.com articulated: so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me) what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of changing? Without knowing your exact configuration and requirements, answering that question is at best a guess. In addition, as a long time subscriber to the theory, If it ain't broke, don't fix it, the only way to ascertain that answer would be to study the Postfix documentation and then decide if it offers better methods of doing whatever it is you are now doing with your present MTA and if changing MTAs would serve a useful purpose. Postfix-2.8 has an impressive feature, postscreen built into it. You can check the documentation for its use and implementation. I don't believe that Sendmail has any such native function. The Postfix forum could provide answers to any reasonable question that you might have regarding the two MTAs. I have no knowledge of what support is available for Sendmail. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 08:44:24PM +, Paul Macdonald wrote: On 01/02/2011 19:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and pretty darn good at m4. Or is that m4()dnl()? :) But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And reasonably named too!) so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me) what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of changing? Probably nothing, if you're asking about changing a current MTA deployment when you're satisfied with what you have. If you are looking for an alternative to replace what you have because of frustrations with your current setup, or if you are considering new deployments and whether it is worthwhile to learn something new, that is another story altogether. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpAnaag8vMVS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? qmail is more secure... but the design is just as alien to unix as sendmail is for example, the fact that qmail uses custom libc, or at least did so on the version i tried. that turns off certain maintainers, and it would put me off aswell postfix on the other hand is more in tune with the rest of the system thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
Calling qmail more secure is pretty much just echoing conjecture at this point. Sure, it was designed to be secure (years and years ago) and the original author even held a contest with a monetary reward for anyone who could find a vulnerability -- that said, AFAIK that person no longer maintains the project. It requires lots of third party patches to be as functional as postfix, so to what extent these patches counteract the original coder's (apparent) secure coding practices is open to debate. If you know of any specific problems with postfix that would substantiate your claim I encourage you to inform the project's maintainers. From personal experience I can say that I've run a postfix config for years without problems. Also, in most networks I don't think the MTA is a very prominent attack vector; people are probably much more likely to get in through that old wordpress installation you've been meaning to upgrade for 6 months (for instance). On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Alessandro Baggi alessandro.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix? qmail is more secure... but the design is just as alien to unix as sendmail is for example, the fact that qmail uses custom libc, or at least did so on the version i tried. that turns off certain maintainers, and it would put me off aswell postfix on the other hand is more in tune with the rest of the system thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail or postfix?
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Jarrod Slick jar...@e-sensibility.com wrote: Calling qmail more secure is pretty much just echoing conjecture at this point. Sure, it was designed to be secure (years and years ago) and the original author even held a contest with a monetary reward for anyone who could find a vulnerability -- that said, AFAIK that person no longer maintains the project. It requires lots of third party patches to be as functional as postfix, so to what extent these patches counteract the original coder's (apparent) secure coding practices is open to debate. that would be besides the point. having the ability to patch up freebsd doesn't grant me the authority of claiming that my work is the official version, or atleast doesn't guarantee that i'll have an audience for my claim If you know of any specific problems with postfix that would substantiate your claim I encourage you to inform the project's maintainers. From personal experience I can say that I've run a postfix config for years without problems. Also, in most networks I don't think the MTA is a very prominent attack vector; people are probably much more likely to get in through that old wordpress installation you've been meaning to upgrade for 6 months (for instance). you seem to be confused by what i posted i don't have an explicit example (e.g., buffer overflow) to show that qmail is more secure. it has to do with the design principles of each and how the system is layed out. while it's true that postfix is partitioned, qmail goes a little further than that by taking a big dump on libc that's not to say that postfix is inherently insecure ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Qmail installation
I installed Qmail according to this tutorial http://www.unixmexico.org/files/html/qmail-how-to/qmail-how-to.html . It was succesful. Now I would like to install the rest of the related application like vqadmin, vpopmail, courier IMAP etc. Please give me a link to some good 'how to' or tutorail. -- Regards Basil Kurian http://basilkurian.tk RSA Public key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 41005549 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail under 8.0-STABLE
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:40:33 -0600 Peter fb...@peterk.org wrote: I have the following config: FreeBSD ppert-zone.com 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 14 01:44:13 UTC 2010 r...@canopus.ispsystem.net:/root/src/sys/i386/compile/ISPSYSTEM i386 it is a vps running via a jail. I have installed mail/qmail and added it to rc.conf. It starts just fine but no remote mail ever gets delivered/received. DNS wise the machine is pointed to a A record for it's domain but the provider has not (and will not) set up a reverse. Note: According to qmail-qstat/qmail-qread the mail is not in the queue either like it was before adding qmail startup to the rc.conf Ideas? What does the MX record for that domain point to? [dig mx domain.com] No MX Are you sure qmail is running/listening? [sockstat / netstat -an] Yes running Did you shutoff sendmail in rc.conf? sendmail_enable=NONE I think... No sendmail is not running ]Peter[ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail under 8.0-STABLE
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:40:33 -0600 Peter fb...@peterk.org wrote: I have the following config: FreeBSD ppert-zone.com 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 14 01:44:13 UTC 2010 r...@canopus.ispsystem.net:/root/src/sys/i386/compile/ISPSYSTEM i386 it is a vps running via a jail. I have installed mail/qmail and added it to rc.conf. It starts just fine but no remote mail ever gets delivered/received. DNS wise the machine is pointed to a A record for it's domain but the provider has not (and will not) set up a reverse. Note: According to qmail-qstat/qmail-qread the mail is not in the queue either like it was before adding qmail startup to the rc.conf Ideas? What does the MX record for that domain point to? [dig mx domain.com] No MX You need an MX record for that domain. If using bind simplest way would be to: ie: for emails @domain.com domain.com. IN MX 1 mail.domain.com. as long as mail.domain.com resolves to the correct IP. If you want email for subdomains... ie:@qmail.domain.com mail.domain.com. IN MX 1 mail.domain.com. etc.etc. Are you sure qmail is running/listening? [sockstat / netstat -an] Yes running Did you shutoff sendmail in rc.conf? sendmail_enable=NONE I think... No sendmail is not running ]Peter[ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
qmail under 8.0-STABLE
I have the following config: FreeBSD ppert-zone.com 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 14 01:44:13 UTC 2010 r...@canopus.ispsystem.net:/root/src/sys/i386/compile/ISPSYSTEM i386 it is a vps running via a jail. I have installed mail/qmail and added it to rc.conf. It starts just fine but no remote mail ever gets delivered/received. DNS wise the machine is pointed to a A record for it's domain but the provider has not (and will not) set up a reverse. Note: According to qmail-qstat/qmail-qread the mail is not in the queue either like it was before adding qmail startup to the rc.conf Ideas? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail under 8.0-STABLE
I have the following config: FreeBSD ppert-zone.com 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 14 01:44:13 UTC 2010 r...@canopus.ispsystem.net:/root/src/sys/i386/compile/ISPSYSTEM i386 it is a vps running via a jail. I have installed mail/qmail and added it to rc.conf. It starts just fine but no remote mail ever gets delivered/received. DNS wise the machine is pointed to a A record for it's domain but the provider has not (and will not) set up a reverse. Note: According to qmail-qstat/qmail-qread the mail is not in the queue either like it was before adding qmail startup to the rc.conf Ideas? What does the MX record for that domain point to? [dig mx domain.com] Are you sure qmail is running/listening? [sockstat / netstat -an] Did you shutoff sendmail in rc.conf? sendmail_enable=NONE I think... ]Peter[ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: qmail on debian to qmail on freebsd
Sollunga S([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.11 04:32:08 -0800: Hi all Greetings to all, this is my first time installation of freebsd, i am going to use this installation for my mail server obviously qmail+ldap. I have a bit of fear to go ahead on it, can anyone clarify please? Previous Qmail installation is on debian 3.x and the installation is based on http://www.shupp.org/toaster/, Now i want to move to a better hardware and ofcourse updated user friendly and uptodate?OS. here i opted for freebsd and qmail 1.03 along with this i want to meet users addressbook issue, so i thought of going behind ldap and mysql, (guide me if i am wrong). My doubts are earlier?the Mailbox and the?cleartext vpasswd are bit scaring me, so i would like to use mysql in place without?disturbing any of the users?mail addresses, ( i have close to 32gb of data's in mailbox's and some mailing list+forwards). also would like to procure password change option securely. How can i make this migration smoothly with the help of freebsd? please Why would you want Mailbox over Maildir is beyond me. I've used qmail-ldap from nrg4u.com with excellent results before. Why would anyone would use a relational database over LDAP for email acct storage is also beyond me. It just does not make any sense once you realize LDAP's advantages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail on debian to qmail on freebsd
Hi all Greetings to all, this is my first time installation of freebsd, i am going to use this installation for my mail server obviously qmail+ldap. I have a bit of fear to go ahead on it, can anyone clarify please? Previous Qmail installation is on debian 3.x and the installation is based on http://www.shupp.org/toaster/, Now i want to move to a better hardware and ofcourse updated user friendly and uptodate OS. here i opted for freebsd and qmail 1.03 along with this i want to meet users addressbook issue, so i thought of going behind ldap and mysql, (guide me if i am wrong). My doubts are earlier the Mailbox and the cleartext vpasswd are bit scaring me, so i would like to use mysql in place without disturbing any of the users mail addresses, ( i have close to 32gb of data's in mailbox's and some mailing list+forwards). also would like to procure password change option securely. How can i make this migration smoothly with the help of freebsd? please ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SPP qmail
Dear all, I installed freebsd 7.0 install qmail from /usr/ports/mail/qmail instal courier vpopmail. Now i wanna use spp i don't know to how to patch it. Please help me. Yours, Mohsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SPP qmail
Of course, i need to know which patch is build in to qmail now. On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 14:02 +0330, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: Dear all, I installed freebsd 7.0 install qmail from /usr/ports/mail/qmail instal courier vpopmail. Now i wanna use spp i don't know to how to patch it. Please help me. Yours, Mohsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail authentication problems
Hello, After installing qmail, and being quit happy with it, I wanted to start using authentication; which I can't get to work. Installed mail/qmail-tls in tcp.smtp: 192.168.2.:allow,RELAYCLIENT= :allow For checkpassword I am using /usr/local/bin/checkpassword which works fine (when the correct passwd is used) if I try it at the command line: printf %s\0%s\0%s\0 roland S03p3rS3cre7 Y123456 | /usr/local/bin/checkpassword /usr/bin/id 30 And it prints my user id. When I try to login via netcat: smtptest EOF EHLO AUTH LOGIN cm9sYW5kCg== UzAzcDNyUzNjcmU3Cg== EOF $ nc localhost 25 smtptest 220 yttrium.micite.net ESMTP 250-yttrium.micite.net 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN 250-AUTH=LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN 250-STARTTLS 250-PIPELINING 250 8BITMIME 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6 535 authorization failed (#5.7.0) The log files are silent. I tried to use checkpassword-pam, as a replacement, but this gave errors such as: Sep 13 10:35:55 yttrium smtp[37132]: Internal error: unknown message style: 'PAM_ERROR_MSG' Sep 13 10:35:55 yttrium smtp[37132]: Authentication failed: authentication error Sep 13 10:39:33 yttrium /usr/local/bin/checkpassword-pam[37154]: PAM service name not specified What can be the problem?? Roland ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rblsmtpd/qmail-smtpd hung processes
I've run into a bit of a problem and if I don't solve it soon, I'm going to be without e-mail (and so will a lot of other people). This is a bit long, I'm trying to include anything that may help. The problem is that qmail-smtpd and/or rblsmtpd get stuck and don't close. After a while the server just quits accepting smtp connections, or will connect/disconnect very quickly (connection closed by foreign host). Using kill on these processes just opens another instance of them (they're managed by /var/service). Since I'm not seeing any log activity that shows what's going on, I'm having a hard time figuring it out. I know the processes are supposed to be timing out and closing, but don't seem to be doing that Has anyone seen this problem? I've tried searching for info on it, but can't find anything that looks similar. I currently have rblsmtpd disabled since it sits between the outside world and qmail-smtpd. The errors don't occur quickly, it seems to take multiple hours to occur so this is hard to debug because I can't create the problem on demand. Any ideas are welcome. (hopefully I'll be able to get mail from this address long enough to fix this - it's one of the ones that's been moved to this machine already) uname -a FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Related ports in use: ucspi-tcp-0.88_2 qmail-1.03_7 qmailadmin-1.2.10,1 vpopmail-5.4.26_1 dovecote-1.0.14 A quick bit of history: Our email/dns provider is closing up shop in about a week (good friend of mine was a small ISP). I only had about 3 weeks notice on this and I've been configuring a pair of FreeBSD machines (I posted to the list a couple weeks ago, thanks everyone for good replies, ) to take over DNS and E-Mail for about a dozen sites. Basically I've been on a crash course of learning as I go. Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. Baltimore, MD (410) 426-7617 - Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. - - Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 - visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our company. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: rblsmtpd/qmail-smtpd hung processes
I've run into a bit of a problem and if I don't solve it soon, I'm going to be without e-mail (and so will a lot of other people). This is a bit long, I'm trying to include anything that may help. The problem is that qmail-smtpd and/or rblsmtpd get stuck and don't close. After a while the server just quits accepting smtp connections, or will connect/disconnect very quickly (connection closed by foreign host). Using kill on these processes just opens another instance of them (they're managed by /var/service). Since I'm not seeing any log activity that shows what's going on, I'm having a hard time figuring it out. I know the processes are supposed to be timing out and closing, but don't seem to be doing that Has anyone seen this problem? I've tried searching for info on it, but can't find anything that looks similar. I currently have rblsmtpd disabled since it sits between the outside world and qmail-smtpd. The errors don't occur quickly, it seems to take multiple hours to occur so this is hard to debug because I can't create the problem on demand. Any ideas are welcome. (hopefully I'll be able to get mail from this address long enough to fix this - it's one of the ones that's been moved to this machine already) uname -a FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Related ports in use: ucspi-tcp-0.88_2 qmail-1.03_7 qmailadmin-1.2.10,1 vpopmail-5.4.26_1 dovecote-1.0.14 A quick bit of history: Our email/dns provider is closing up shop in about a week (good friend of mine was a small ISP). I only had about 3 weeks notice on this and I've been configuring a pair of FreeBSD machines (I posted to the list a couple weeks ago, thanks everyone for good replies, ) to take over DNS and E-Mail for about a dozen sites. Basically I've been on a crash course of learning as I go. I hate responding to my own message, but I think I've finally found the solution. I'm using Matt Simerson's Mail Toaster package. The file toaster.conf file needs to be 644 so that when rotating logs, the programs can re-read the config. Apparently all of the hanging files were dying because they couldn't read the config and crashed. Once crashed the supervisor decided it needed to start a new copy, which would crash as soon as something connected to it, and so on. This also seems to have fixed a problem where some e-mails would get stuck in the queue and never leave. They've all been delivered/deleted like they should now. I got lucky in finding this. I happened to spot the rotated log file staying empty within a few minutes of seeing the hung processes starting to stack up. It gave me a good starting point to googling for a solution. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail w/ SMTP auth using freebsd port
I used the patches and documents from qmail.jms1.net and built my own qmail, and it works well. I think a port that tracks qmail + jms1's current combined patch set would be well received. BTW, I copied the maintainer of the qmail port on my earlier message, and it eventually bounced: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]: 450 4.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: Service is unavailable: retry timeout exceeded Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 10/04/08 Jeff Dickens said: Is there a document on how to set up SMTP auth using the FreeBSD qmail port? I didn't think qmail supported anything as modern as smtp auth. Most likely the expectation would be to proxy qmail through a tool that performs it for you. Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail w/ SMTP auth using freebsd port
Jeff Dickens wrote: I used the patches and documents from qmail.jms1.net and built my own qmail, and it works well. I think a port that tracks qmail + jms1's current combined patch set would be well received. For what is worth the mail/qmail-tls port says it supports smtp-auth. I dont use qmail myself though so I havent tried it. Vince BTW, I copied the maintainer of the qmail port on my earlier message, and it eventually bounced: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]: 450 4.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: Service is unavailable: retry timeout exceeded Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 10/04/08 Jeff Dickens said: Is there a document on how to set up SMTP auth using the FreeBSD qmail port? I didn't think qmail supported anything as modern as smtp auth. Most likely the expectation would be to proxy qmail through a tool that performs it for you. Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail w/ SMTP auth using freebsd port
Is there a document on how to set up SMTP auth using the FreeBSD qmail port? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
greylisting with qmail
Hello There! I want to add greylisting support to my qmail server. I tried to google about it and tried different methods but didn't get succeeded. I have installed qmail via http://qmailrocks.org help. Hope anyone can help me out. Thanks in advance. -- B.RGDS Muhammad Usman (x2oxen) +92-321-6640501 TN Technologies. Blue Net Broadband http://usman.blue.net.pk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
QMail Help
Hello I'm running qmail and I created an smtproutes file, inside my /var/qmail/control/ directory. I then sent a killall -ALRM qmail-send, but it doesn't seem like it uses that smtproutes file I made. I start qmail using supervise scripts. Also in my smtproutes file can I use IP's, and do they have to be enclosed inside brackets? E.G. super.com:[1.2.3.4] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QMail Help
Victor Farah wrote: Hello I'm running qmail and I created an smtproutes file, inside my /var/qmail/control/ directory. I then sent a killall -ALRM qmail-send, but it doesn't seem like it uses that smtproutes file I made. I start qmail using supervise scripts. Also in my smtproutes file can I use IP's, and do they have to be enclosed inside brackets? E.G. super.com:[1.2.3.4] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, This isn't the right place to ask this question. Irregardless of that, since you are using supervise to manage the daemon, try the following: svc -h /path/to/service/directory OR svc -a /path/to/service/directory If neither of those work, you can restart the daemon altogether svc -d /path/to/service/directory followed by svc -u /path/to/service/directory ~Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QMail Help
Paul A. Procacci wrote: Victor Farah wrote: Hello I'm running qmail and I created an smtproutes file, inside my /var/qmail/control/ directory. I then sent a killall -ALRM qmail-send, but it doesn't seem like it uses that smtproutes file I made. I start qmail using supervise scripts. Hello, This isn't the right place to ask this question. Irregardless of that, since you are using supervise to manage the daemon, try the following: svc -h /path/to/service/directory OR svc -a /path/to/service/directory ~Paul I Agree, this would be better posted to a qmail list, but anyway: I think -ALRM tells qmail to re-run the queue, what you need is to send a HUP signal to the qmail-send, like pkill -HUP qmail-send, so it will read the control files again. Have you read the Life With Qmail docs? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QMail Help
Paul A. Procacci wrote: Victor Farah wrote: Hello I'm running qmail and I created an smtproutes file, inside my /var/qmail/control/ directory. I then sent a killall -ALRM qmail-send, but it doesn't seem like it uses that smtproutes file I made. I start qmail using supervise scripts. Hello, This isn't the right place to ask this question. Irregardless of that, since you are using supervise to manage the daemon, try the following: svc -h /path/to/service/directory OR svc -a /path/to/service/directory ~Paul I Agree, this would be better posted to a qmail list, but anyway: I think -ALRM tells qmail to re-run the queue, what you need is to send a HUP signal to the qmail-send, like pkill -HUP qmail-send, so it will read the control files again. Have you read the Life With Qmail docs? See qmail-control(5) and qmail-remote(8). smtproutes is read by qmail-remote not qmail-send. qmail-remote doesn't require a signal since a new instance is started for each delivery. If smtproutes is not working, something else is wrong. Check the syntax of the file (it is described in qmail-remote man page). You may need to use wild cards to handle all instances for that domain name. If that's all fine, then perhaps there's a problem on the remote host. sdb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Todays Poem: ((12 + 144 + 20 + (3 * 4^(1/2))) / 7) + (5 * 11) = 9^2 + 0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail+wu-imap+squirrelmail
I'm trying to setup qmail with squirrelmail thus wu-imap on Freebsd 6.2 . imap is not authenticating the user and I dont know why. Try: telnet 216.236.255.45 143 a1 login test 0 and see what I'm talking about. -- --- Bill Banks 508-829-2005 Wachusett Programming Ourweb http://www.ourweb.net http://www.ourwebtemplates.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Lotfi kecir wrote: HI, thank's for your post. to give answer to your answer: i rent a dedicated server (Fedora 6) witch has qmail installed on. and in my old Server witch is in our office turn has Postfix. The new sever has as Admin panel Plesk. I already create all email acounts and now i'm looking to transfert all my user acount mailboxes. and i don't have any idea to do it. Thanks for your help First item, ignore the qmail haters. We run qmail quite successfully and find it very powerful, very secure, and well designed. I will not go into a point by point debate. Second item, plesk is a very bad way to run qmail. You will get *no* help on the qmail list if you use the install on plesk. It is a modified version of qmail and the modifications are closed door, at least that is my understanding. So if you do not have an excellent understanding of Unix, and above average understanding of email, and good troubleshooting skills, you are in for a very rocky ride. By your description of the problem an experienced Unix administrator would have no problem doing what you ask. Consider staying with Postfix as you already know the software. If you insist on switching, ask the Plesk developers for help. It is their software, their install, they should be able to help you. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
DAve wrote: Lotfi kecir wrote: HI, thank's for your post. to give answer to your answer: i rent a dedicated server (Fedora 6) witch has qmail installed on. and in my old Server witch is in our office turn has Postfix. The new sever has as Admin panel Plesk. I already create all email acounts and now i'm looking to transfert all my user acount mailboxes. and i don't have any idea to do it. Thanks for your help First item, ignore the qmail haters. We run qmail quite successfully and find it very powerful, very secure, and well designed. I will not go into a point by point debate. Second item, plesk is a very bad way to run qmail. You will get *no* help on the qmail list if you use the install on plesk. It is a modified version of qmail and the modifications are closed door, at least that is my understanding. So if you do not have an excellent understanding of Unix, and above average understanding of email, and good troubleshooting skills, you are in for a very rocky ride. By your description of the problem an experienced Unix administrator would have no problem doing what you ask. Consider staying with Postfix as you already know the software. If you insist on switching, ask the Plesk developers for help. It is their software, their install, they should be able to help you. DAve We had similar problem with Plesk and Qmail, crashing very often. We somehow fix that by stoping email antivirus from Plesk. Still crashes, but not so often. I've searched alot, it seems this is happening on Linux too (I've found posts regarding qmail crash on Slackware Linux). best regards, ovi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:36:24 -0400 DAve wrote: First item, ignore the qmail haters. We run qmail quite successfully and find it very powerful, very secure, and well designed. I will not go into a point by point debate. Goo idea! Lets also ignore all Windows haters. I'm sure that plenty of people will say that Windows is fast, secure and without bugs. :-) No, I don't want to start a fight here. I admit, that I don't like qmail and I *have* used it for years. I never hat security problems with it either and what made me think about a different MTA was the fact that qmail on ReiserFS was undefined - and I lost mail. The bad performance result was something found by accident. But that wouldn't make any diff on a private site. Second item, plesk is a very bad way to run qmail. You will get *no* help on the qmail list if you use the install on plesk. It is a modified version of qmail and the modifications are closed door, at least that is my understanding. So if you do not have an excellent understanding of Unix, and above average understanding of email, and good troubleshooting skills, you are in for a very rocky ride. Well, as you say, the Plesk version of qmail sucks (on which we agree) and therefore administration should bei done without Plesk (we agree on that too) then the OP might as well stay with Postfix and just dump Plesk. Are we in agreement? :-) Regards, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:03:53 +0200, Christian Baer wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:36:24 -0400 DAve wrote: No, I don't want to start a fight here. I admit, that I don't like qmail and I *have* used it for years. I never hat security problems with it either and what made me think about a different MTA was the fact that qmail on ReiserFS was undefined - and I lost mail. The bad performance result was something found by accident. But that wouldn't make any diff on a private site. Is ReiserFS an issue on FreeBSD? And not that this is the first file system issue I've heard about with qmail, but what is an MTA doing that should be file system dependent in any way? I *am* a happy qmail user, but this is something I just don't get. -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgp5JGDCP2J1n.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Am Montag 24 September 2007 15:24:09 schrieb David Benfell: And not that this is the first file system issue I've heard about with qmail, but what is an MTA doing that should be file system dependent in any way? I *am* a happy qmail user, but this is something I just don't get. It is filesystem dependent when a write to a filesystem actually becomes permanent (even when O_(D)SYNC is specified in the open syscall, that just makes sure the file data is committed immediately to disk), in the sense that if you switch off the power without syncing, that after filesystem reconstruction on reboot the file is still there, with its contents. (think about delayed metadata-updates on FreeBSD UFS2, for example, ReiserFS has a similar kind of behaviour wrt. updating its B-tree) Only after this true commit has happened is the MTA actually able to give a proper 200 in reply to finishing the SMTP DATA-command, because it can be sure that the mail won't be lost under all normal circumstances (besides having the HD hardware fail, which generally isn't catered for by the MTA). Qmail simply doesn't check properly (in the case of ReiserFS) whether the file has been truly committed before it gives out the 200 reply, so basically, if you deploy ReiserFS (which is known to cache its B-tree aggressively) and have a power-outage while Qmail is writing the queue file to disk, you're at odds that the mail is lost simply because Qmail has already given out the 200 reply to the remote server, even though the file information hasn't been committed to the ReiserFS B-tree (or the journal) yet, so that the file won't be recreated during journal-replay. -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On 9/21/07, Lotfi kecir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. The short answer should be that you just install the mail/qmail port. The details of how to move the mailboxes to the new server depend on what mailbox format you are using now. If they are Maildir format, Qmail will be able to use them with no changes. If they are not Maildir format, you will need to post that information. But please do not use Qmail -- it pollutes everyone else's mailbox with blowback spam. If someone has convinced you that you want to use Qmail, I strongly recommend that you consider Courier instead. It was designed to be a drop-in replacement for Qmail, but does not have most of the problems that Qmail has. The configuration files are very similar to Qmail, so Qmail training should transfer to Courier pretty readily. If you are putting this on the same server you now use for postfix/dovecot, you will probably need to edit /etc/rc.conf to disable your old mail program and enable the new one. E.g. if there is a 'postfix_enable=YES' statement, you may need to replace it with something like 'courier_enable=YES'. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:37:53AM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: On 9/21/07, Lotfi kecir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. The short answer should be that you just install the mail/qmail port. The details of how to move the mailboxes to the new server depend on what mailbox format you are using now. If they are Maildir format, Qmail will be able to use them with no changes. If they are not Maildir format, you will need to post that information. But please do not use Qmail -- it pollutes everyone else's mailbox with blowback spam. There are patches to stop that. Look at the mail/qmail-spamcontrol port. It will install a patched version of qmail that can refuse to accept mail to non-existing addresses instead of bouncing them as qmail normally does. If someone has convinced you that you want to use Qmail, I strongly recommend that you consider Courier instead. It was designed to be a drop-in replacement for Qmail, but does not have most of the problems that Qmail has. The configuration files are very similar to Qmail, so Qmail training should transfer to Courier pretty readily. If you are putting this on the same server you now use for postfix/dovecot, you will probably need to edit /etc/rc.conf to disable your old mail program and enable the new one. E.g. if there is a 'postfix_enable=YES' statement, you may need to replace it with something like 'courier_enable=YES'. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:18:53 +0200 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: The qmail-configuration can be read an evaluated *without* a parser. Excuse my spelling in the last message! :-) I corrected it in this quote. Sorry, but that's BS (IMHO). Don't tell me, tell Dan Berstein (happy hunting): http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html Observe point 5. Any program interpreting some form of input is called a parser, and the only distinction is the algorithm you need, i.e. whether you need a full-blown stack-machine to interpret the input (think of recursive declarations), or not. [...] I know what the Postfix configuration looks like, I've been over it a countless number of times. I know it is simple, even to parse, but there is still no real comparision to qmail's configuration. qmail has several settings that come one setting per file. IIRC the other settings go one per line, no comments, no spaces, no quotation marks. I'm not saying the Postfix configuration is not as good or even complex. qmail's configuration is just easier to read and write if both are done be an automation, rather than a human. Regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said Obscurity in the face of adversity is no dice and while we were trying to figure that out on Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 20:47 he continued with: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:46:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Baer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: migrate from postfix to qmail On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:47:09 +0200 Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Why in heaven's name would *anyone* want to do that? I have been using Postfix for years now and before that I used qmail - when it was new. qmail sucked *bigtime*! It was slow, picky about the filesystem it worked on (ReiserFS cause very interresting results), a license that doesn't deserve the name and one mistake in the configuration didn't cause an error message but instead sent incoming mail directly to the happy bit grounds. Don't I recall that when a mail is sent to several people at the same domain that qmail generates separate emails for each person instead of the standard way of sending one email with all addresses to the destination machine and letting that machine distribute the emails. That's just bizarre - unles you own the transport provider and make money on all the data transmitted :-( Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Christian Baer wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:18:53 +0200 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: The qmail-configuration can be read an evaluated *without* a parser. Excuse my spelling in the last message! :-) I corrected it in this quote. Sorry, but that's BS (IMHO). Don't tell me, tell Dan Berstein (happy hunting): http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html Observe point 5. DJB has not honored at least one vulnerability in qmail. read the link i posted early in this thread and decide for yourself. theres a word for people who say one thing and do another... he changes the rules as needed to ensure his bunk guarantee stands. Even if someone found another one he would blame the person who configured it, or make up some other excuse. none of his software is worth running these days. maybe 10 years ago, but now? no way Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:31:34 -0500 Eric wrote: Don't tell me, tell Dan Berstein (happy hunting): http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html Observe point 5. DJB has not honored at least one vulnerability in qmail. read the link i posted early in this thread and decide for yourself. theres a word for people who say one thing and do another... Why do you think I put the happy hunting there? Didn't travel quite as sarcastic as the smile on my face when I wrote it. :-) I don't like qmail much and I certainly don't like DJB's attitude in many cases. He had a few good ideas however and it certainly is not my part to try and take that away from him. Besides, I wasn't trying to prove anything about qmail being good or bad but just something about the configuration and the parsing. I haven't looked at qmail in years. Funny that the Version is still the same as when I used it (that could well be 10 years ago). Today I don't really care if qmail is secure. That would be a typical case of SEP. :-) Regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 02:47 +0200, Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. Qmail sucks for IPv6. Qmail sucks for RFC 2821, as well. Actually Postfix is better than qmail. Byung-Hee ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 09/22/2007 11:30 AM, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 02:47 +0200, Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. Qmail sucks for IPv6. Qmail sucks for RFC 2821, as well. Actually Postfix is better than qmail. Byung-Hee The best MTA is? exim? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 11:47 +0200, Johan Andersson wrote: On 09/22/2007 11:30 AM, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 02:47 +0200, Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. Qmail sucks for IPv6. Qmail sucks for RFC 2821, as well. Actually Postfix is better than qmail. Byung-Hee The best MTA is? exim? Yes, the best MTA is Exim because it has not a weakness. Moreover, Exim is deployed by many FOSS communities. I think Postfix is the 2nd-best MTA, not qmail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Hello, 2007/9/22, Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 11:47 +0200, Johan Andersson wrote: On 09/22/2007 11:30 AM, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 02:47 +0200, Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. Qmail sucks for IPv6. Qmail sucks for RFC 2821, as well. Actually Postfix is better than qmail. Byung-Hee The best MTA is? exim? Yes, the best MTA is Exim because it has not a weakness. Moreover, Exim is deployed by many FOSS communities. I think Postfix is the 2nd-best MTA, not qmail. This discussion is rather pointless given that the OP is not asking for opinion. He has to live with qmail set up by his provider. I think he simply wants to know how to move accounts. I cannot help, however, as I have no experience with qmail. Regards, Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On 22 Sep 2007, at 05:29, Lotfi kecir wrote: HI, thank's for your post. to give answer to your answer: i rent a dedicated server (Fedora 6) witch has qmail installed on. and in my old Server witch is in our office turn has Postfix. The new sever has as Admin panel Plesk. I already create all email acounts and now i'm looking to transfert all my user acount mailboxes. and i don't have any idea to do it. Thanks for your help Yeah right. I don't have hands-on experience with any MTA other than Postfix, but I never read a good thing about qmail. Thing is, I work for a design company - we have 3 VPSs two using Plesk and another on extend, I noticed that behind the scenes it is Qmail for all of them. How come it is used by these control panels when it is so poor? Just a small whine from me :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:13:58 +0100, Gabriel Dragffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 Sep 2007, at 05:29, Lotfi kecir wrote: HI, thank's for your post. to give answer to your answer: i rent a dedicated server (Fedora 6) witch has qmail installed on. and in my old Server witch is in our office turn has Postfix. The new sever has as Admin panel Plesk. I already create all email acounts and now i'm looking to transfert all my user acount mailboxes. and i don't have any idea to do it. Thanks for your help Yeah right. I don't have hands-on experience with any MTA other than Postfix, but I never read a good thing about qmail. Thing is, I work for a design company - we have 3 VPSs two using Plesk and another on extend, I noticed that behind the scenes it is Qmail for all of them. How come it is used by these control panels when it is so poor? Just a small whine from me :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If something is widely used, it doesnt mean its good. I think qmail is easier to configure with virtual users, and i guess someone set the trend to use qmail on a CP. There are some howto's available on the internet if you want to run postfix /w plesk Read this for more info about Qmail and bugs. http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 12:05 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, 2007/9/22, Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 11:47 +0200, Johan Andersson wrote: On 09/22/2007 11:30 AM, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 02:47 +0200, Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. Qmail sucks for IPv6. Qmail sucks for RFC 2821, as well. Actually Postfix is better than qmail. Byung-Hee The best MTA is? exim? Yes, the best MTA is Exim because it has not a weakness. Moreover, Exim is deployed by many FOSS communities. I think Postfix is the 2nd-best MTA, not qmail. This discussion is rather pointless given that the OP is not asking for opinion. He has to live with qmail set up by his provider. I think he simply wants to know how to move accounts. I cannot help, however, as I have no experience with qmail. Okay, then I will shut up and hold my breath. It might be too long to hold it, though. ;-) At one time, I used for the qmail MTA with FreeBSD. And I know the way to move from Postfix to qmail. But still I do not want to say qmail is better MTA than any other MTA!. Yes, it is just my stupid opinion. Sorry for noise.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Hello, 2007/9/22, Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 12:05 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, 2007/9/22, Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 11:47 +0200, Johan Andersson wrote: On 09/22/2007 11:30 AM, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 02:47 +0200, Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. Qmail sucks for IPv6. Qmail sucks for RFC 2821, as well. Actually Postfix is better than qmail. Byung-Hee The best MTA is? exim? Yes, the best MTA is Exim because it has not a weakness. Moreover, Exim is deployed by many FOSS communities. I think Postfix is the 2nd-best MTA, not qmail. This discussion is rather pointless given that the OP is not asking for opinion. He has to live with qmail set up by his provider. I think he simply wants to know how to move accounts. I cannot help, however, as I have no experience with qmail. Okay, then I will shut up and hold my breath. It might be too long to hold it, though. ;-) BTW - I fully agree with the comments. Myself have been using exim. At some point (to learn more) I also want to try postfix. I would never want to touch qmail. At one time, I used for the qmail MTA with FreeBSD. And I know the way to move from Postfix to qmail. But still I do not want to say qmail is better MTA than any other MTA!. Yes, it is just my stupid opinion. The thing is he is not asking for opinion but for help. I guess this is his ISP responsibility to patch qmail and make it secure for him. Sorry for the noise too as I cannot help here. ZS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:47:09 +0200 Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Why in heaven's name would *anyone* want to do that? I have been using Postfix for years now and before that I used qmail - when it was new. qmail sucked *bigtime*! It was slow, picky about the filesystem it worked on (ReiserFS cause very interresting results), a license that doesn't deserve the name and one mistake in the configuration didn't cause an error message but instead sent incoming mail directly to the happy bit grounds. qmail has not really been maintained by the Author over the last few years and although it is distributed in source, changes to it are not allowed, if you plan to distribute the result. This means that in order for qmail to still work today, there is an insane amount of patches out there that have to be applied. IMHO using qmail instead of Postfix is a gigantic step right back into the stone age. Say hello to the dinos for me! :-) Regards, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
My experience with Qmail is totally the opposite. It's a great MTA as you can set it up and then forget about it for the next 100 years. Setup isn't really a pain anymore with sites like lifewithqmail and qmailrocks. I've been using Qmail for years and am a very happy mail admin; it's rock solid and runs more stable than any program I've yet encountered. Regards, Oz Christian Baer wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:47:09 +0200 Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Why in heaven's name would *anyone* want to do that? I have been using Postfix for years now and before that I used qmail - when it was new. qmail sucked *bigtime*! It was slow, picky about the filesystem it worked on (ReiserFS cause very interresting results), a license that doesn't deserve the name and one mistake in the configuration didn't cause an error message but instead sent incoming mail directly to the happy bit grounds. qmail has not really been maintained by the Author over the last few years and although it is distributed in source, changes to it are not allowed, if you plan to distribute the result. This means that in order for qmail to still work today, there is an insane amount of patches out there that have to be applied. IMHO using qmail instead of Postfix is a gigantic step right back into the stone age. Say hello to the dinos for me! :-) Regards, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Lotfi kecir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HI, thank's for your post. to give answer to your answer: i rent a dedicated server (Fedora 6) witch has qmail installed on. and in my old Server witch is in our office turn has Postfix. The new sever has as Admin panel Plesk. I already create all email acounts and now i'm looking to transfert all my user acount mailboxes. and i don't have any idea to do it. The first thing to consider is what format the existing mailboxes use. Then make sure you have support for that format in your qmail installation. If you don't, then decide whether you can install new format support on your server. If you can't, you have to move the existing mailbox files (from the old server) into whatever format the qmail server does support (post again if you get to this point). Is that enough of a guide to get you started? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:29:30 +0200 Lotfi kecir wrote: to give answer to your answer: i rent a dedicated server (Fedora 6) witch has qmail installed on. and in my old Server witch is in our office turn has Postfix. The new sever has as Admin panel Plesk. I already create all email acounts and now i'm looking to transfert all my user acount mailboxes. I hope (for your sake) that the rented server is not only dedicated but also *managed*! If it isn't you will sooner or later have to leave Plesk anyway and do the odd thing or another on foot. It might have been a good idea to look at what's installed on a dediserver before signing the contract. But it isn't my job to lecture you on that. BTW: This isn't a FreeBSD issue. You will probably have more luck finding someone who can help you in one of the newsgroups with this subject. and i don't have any idea to do it. There isn't really a routine to migrate from Postfix to qmail. This is partly because noone usually wants to do it and partly because the whole thing is quite complex. It would IMHO be something for an advanced user or a sysadmin. You could however talk to your ISP where you hired the server. They will usually (for a price) adapt the installation for you - if this isn't a managed server. So you could ask them to change the MTA for you. If you have enough experience, you can also do it yourself. Just remember that you *will* have downtime because of this. Regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:47:06 +0200 Johan Andersson wrote: The best MTA is? exim? Not that this is really a subject for this list, I don't really agree. We did some studies on several MTAs a while back and found out (quite by accident) that Exim has some real performance issues. I personally don't really like the monolithic form of Exim and Sendmail, but Exim seems to be pretty secure just the same. However, it was impossible for *any* other MTA to get even close to the performance that Postfix offered on the same basis (OS and Hardware). Every MTA has a weakness, just because a strength is often exclusive and cannot be combined with a different strength. I have been happy with Postfix for years now. And IMHO, all ratings about what is better are just about as useless as OS-wars. Regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:13:58 +0100 Gabriel Dragffy wrote: Yeah right. I don't have hands-on experience with any MTA other than Postfix, but I never read a good thing about qmail. Thing is, I work for a design company - we have 3 VPSs two using Plesk and another on extend, I noticed that behind the scenes it is Qmail for all of them. How come it is used by these control panels when it is so poor? Just a small whine from me :) That question is pretty easy to answer: The qmail-configuration can be read an evaluated *without* a parcer. This makes it easy to read and write the configuration and it also reduces the risk of errors. If you created a configuration tool for an MTA you'd be looking for something that will interact well with you tool and probably you wouldn't look to carefully how well that program does its job as an MTA. Regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Am Samstag 22 September 2007 15:48:55 schrieb Christian Baer: snip The qmail-configuration can be read an evaluated *without* a parcer. Sorry, but that's BS (IMHO). Any program interpreting some form of input is called a parser, and the only distinction is the algorithm you need, i.e. whether you need a full-blown stack-machine to interpret the input (think of recursive declarations), or not. The Postfix configuration (/usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf) simply consists of directives of the form: varname = value where the value can have continuations by indenting the following line with whitespace, but that's about the only thing that's different to the INI-format (besides not having the concept of sections in a Postfix config file). Thus, the Postfix configuration should easily be parseable by about 20-30 lines of C code (with error checking), if you're not willing to use (f)lex to implement the simplistic parser for you. The only thing that makes life a little harder is the ability to reference other items in main.cf by using $itemname (which are basically pure string replacements); these have to be implemented in a semantic phase anyway, which doesn't have anything to do with the parser itself. Last, but not least, Postfix implements most of the actual logic of delivery (including virtual delivery) in so-called maps, which come as KEY whitespace+ VALUE newline files. I wouldn't know how much easier parsing could get for any form of control panel (if it doesn't use Postfix's ability to store a map in a RDBMS anyway). -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
On 2007-09-22 02:47, Lotfi kecir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. Why would you want to do such a silly thing? Postfix is an *excellent* mail server software package :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Lotfi kecir wrote: hello. i'm newbbie in Unix especially in in FreeBSD. Recently i have setup one mail server with postfix-dovecot and i would like to migrate it to Qmail server. but i didn't know how to do it. Someone can give help me? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] why would you want to do that? qmail is a massive step backwards and requires a stupid amount of patches to do things properly. Read this for more: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html its just not worth it imo. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
Hi, I would agree with the below. I've got a fair amount of experience and i tried on a test box to get qmail working, i did, but it was weird, it didn't conform to FreeBSD's filesystem layout, files were in unusual places, daemons started up nonstandard, and it felt like an email server from the twilight zone, it gave me a really weird feeling and i realized that i wasn't going to be running it in production period. I would recommend postfix. Hth Dave. ___ why would you want to do that? qmail is a massive step backwards and requires a stupid amount of patches to do things properly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrate from postfix to qmail
HI, thank's for your post. to give answer to your answer: i rent a dedicated server (Fedora 6) witch has qmail installed on. and in my old Server witch is in our office turn has Postfix. The new sever has as Admin panel Plesk. I already create all email acounts and now i'm looking to transfert all my user acount mailboxes. and i don't have any idea to do it. Thanks for your help ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail help
On 2007-09-13 22:48, Bill Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just make qmail from port and killed sendmail. I can send mail out but can't recvice it. I think that the mailboxes is not made,, You'll have to provide us with *many* more details about the precise steps you followed, what you wanted to do, what you have done so far, and so on... Please see http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and then post a question which is a bit longer, but contains more useful content. This way we will be able to help you more effectivelly, and it will be a much more pleasant experience for everyone, including you :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: qmail help
The qmail is delivering to the mailboxes. I want to use /var/spool/mail, I know i have to use procmail but how do i set it up? --- Bill Banks 508-829-2005 Wachusett Programming Ourweb http://www.ourweb.net http://www.ourwebtemplates.com -Original Message- From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:14 AM To: Bill Banks Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: qmail help On 2007-09-13 22:48, Bill Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just make qmail from port and killed sendmail. I can send mail out but can't recvice it. I think that the mailboxes is not made,, You'll have to provide us with *many* more details about the precise steps you followed, what you wanted to do, what you have done so far, and so on... Please see http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and then post a question which is a bit longer, but contains more useful content. This way we will be able to help you more effectivelly, and it will be a much more pleasant experience for everyone, including you :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail help
I just make qmail from port and killed sendmail. I can send mail out but can't recvice it. I think that the mailboxes is not made,, --- Bill Banks 508-829-2005 Wachusett Programming Ourweb http://www.ourweb.net http://www.ourwebtemplates.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail virtual domain and alias
Since I am not getting a response from the qmail list - well there are a bunch of knowledgeable members here. So... okay i collect mail for two domains with overlapping aliases. the acutal host name of the server is globs.domain.com so there is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] there is a .qmail-globs file working fine for mail arriving at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but then I placed the virtualdomains the line: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:blobs and then I created an alias file .qmail-blobs-globs but it does not work and the sender receives a bounce claiming user [EMAIL PROTECTED] not found. what can I do about this? Cheers, Noah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail virtual domain and alias
Hi John, hahaha - now that is a funny response. I thought my explanation was fairly clear. Also domain.com is a sample domain name and really has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Sample domain names are used all the time In examples and should not hinder arriving or providing solutions to configuring qmail aliases and virtualdomains. cheers, noah John Levine wrote: Since I am not getting a response from the qmail list - well there are a bunch of knowledgeable members here. So... We saw your question on the qmail list, but we couldn't answer it because you're not telling us what you're really doing. (Unless you are the registrant for domain.com, which you are not.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail virtual domain and alias
Since I am not getting a response from the qmail list - well there are a bunch of knowledgeable members here. So... We saw your question on the qmail list, but we couldn't answer it because you're not telling us what you're really doing. (Unless you are the registrant for domain.com, which you are not.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail virtual domain and alias
On Sat, 05 May 2007 08:35:43 -0700, Noah wrote: Hi John, hahaha - now that is a funny response. I thought my explanation was fairly clear. Also domain.com is a sample domain name and really has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Sample domain names are used all the time In examples and should not hinder arriving or providing solutions to configuring qmail aliases and virtualdomains. But particularly in anything that has anything to do with domains, one approach is to test configurations externally for problems that may not be apparent internally. In order to do this, you must provide accurate information. -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgp3EB8Oc6JPu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: qmail virtual domain and alias
I thought my explanation was fairly clear. Also domain.com is a sample domain name and really has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Sample domain names are used all the time In examples and should not hinder arriving or providing solutions to configuring qmail aliases and virtualdomains. The problem is almost certainly that you have a typo in a control file somewhere. Since you are unwilling to show us the actual contents of those control files, it is unlikely that we can help you. If you think it would be a security problem if people knew your real domain, you have worse problems to fix than a few e-mail forwards. If you read the qmail list, you will have seen many, many exchanges along these lines. If you want real help, post real data. Regards, John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies, Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor More Wiener schnitzel, please, said Tom, revealingly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail virtual domain and alias
forget it. I am switching to another MTA that is easier to use. cheers, Noah John L wrote: I thought my explanation was fairly clear. Also domain.com is a sample domain name and really has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Sample domain names are used all the time In examples and should not hinder arriving or providing solutions to configuring qmail aliases and virtualdomains. The problem is almost certainly that you have a typo in a control file somewhere. Since you are unwilling to show us the actual contents of those control files, it is unlikely that we can help you. If you think it would be a security problem if people knew your real domain, you have worse problems to fix than a few e-mail forwards. If you read the qmail list, you will have seen many, many exchanges along these lines. If you want real help, post real data. Regards, John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies, Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor More Wiener schnitzel, please, said Tom, revealingly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: large mail broken - qmail
Problem solved: bad network card. On 2/4/07, Cristian Mijea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really a freebsd question, sorry. I have a mail server on a freebsd machine. Qmail+SpamAssasin+Clamav. At a first look, everything works just fine, but any lage atachement gets corrupted. Smaller mail is just fine. Removed the extras (qmail-scanner, clamav, spamassasin) and still the same. No problem receiving any mail, just when is sending it. Anyone had a similar problem ever? Regards! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
large mail broken - qmail
Not really a freebsd question, sorry. I have a mail server on a freebsd machine. Qmail+SpamAssasin+Clamav. At a first look, everything works just fine, but any lage atachement gets corrupted. Smaller mail is just fine. Removed the extras (qmail-scanner, clamav, spamassasin) and still the same. No problem receiving any mail, just when is sending it. Anyone had a similar problem ever? Regards! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting Qmail Ezmlm To Work
757575Hi; I installed qmail from source because of problems with the port. I installed vpopmail from port okay. I installed ezmlm-idx from port; however, it doesn't appear to communicate with one or both of the other two programs. I can issue commands from the command prompt to create a list, add members, etc...all that works fine. But if I try to subscribe by email, nothing happens. That's why I think there's a communication problem between programs. Perhaps what I need to do is compile ezmlm from port and specify the location/installation for qmail and/or vpopmail? Please advise. Also, if you would be so kind (since I had major problems with this with the openldap port), if you can please provide the command to build ezmlm-idx. TIA, Rachel Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
7676Thanks everyone for your help. It's been a long weekend with lots of mistakes, but I'm up now. Rachel Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
Hi; I've installed both qmail and vpopmail from ports. Qmail is up and running because of the great instructions provided. But I haven't figured out how to get vpopmail up (and, of course, working with qmail). Please help. Rachel Sponsored Link Compare mortgage rates for today. Get up to 5 free quotes. Www2.nextag.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
797984- Original Message From: Peter Thoenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/109 is your friend. Well, going to that page led me to this as the authority for vpopmail: http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/vpopmail_std.htm (I already have qmail working.) That page seems to only offer these two commands as advice (since I've installed vpopmail and qmail from ports): chown vpopmail:vchkpw ~vpopmail/bin/vchkpw chmod 6711 ~vpopmail/bin/vchkpw And, according to the instructions... If you don't get any errors, then Vpopmail is good to go! Well, I didn't get any errors, but when I reboot and ps there's no vpopmail :( What do? TIA, Rachel Sponsored Link Online degrees - find the right program to advance your career. Www.nextag.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
Don't install qmail from the port, which includes a whole bunch of ill-advised patches. Instead, download and install netqmail 1.05 from www.qmail.org, which has a small set of patches that really work. I've been meaning to make a port of netqmail, but haven't had time yet. You'll also want daemontools and ucspi-tcp. For both of those, the ports are OK. Haven't tried the port of vpopmail, but the port has a disconcertingly large number of patches that it silently applies. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
- Original Message From: John L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would I want to rip out a perfectly good installation? Because it's not perfectly good. Many of the patches only sort of work. I just want to get vpopmail working with qmail. If you don't care whether it crashes mysteriously and loses mail, you might as well use the port. If you actually want it to work, delete the port and use netqmail. John, there's a rationalle for using ports, you know. A very, very strong argument in favor of them. Would you mind telling me how to get vpopmail working? TIA, Rachel The all-new Yahoo! Mail beta Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
But...I already have qmail working from port! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:local/vpopmail/bin (106) ps|grep qmail 368 con- S 0:00.93 supervise qmail-send 370 con- S 0:00.91 supervise qmail-smtpd 813 con- I 0:00.02 qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox [EMAIL PROTECTED]:local/vpopmail/bin (107) Why would I want to rip out a perfectly good installation? I just want to get vpopmail working with qmail. TIA, Rachel - Original Message From: John Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 6:02:55 PM Subject: Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports Don't install qmail from the port, which includes a whole bunch of ill-advised patches. Instead, download and install netqmail 1.05 from www.qmail.org, which has a small set of patches that really work. I've been meaning to make a port of netqmail, but haven't had time yet. You'll also want daemontools and ucspi-tcp. For both of those, the ports are OK. Haven't tried the port of vpopmail, but the port has a disconcertingly large number of patches that it silently applies. R's, John Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Sponsored Link Compare mortgage rates for today. Get up to 5 free quotes. Www2.nextag.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
On Nov 18, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Rachel Florentine wrote: Well, going to that page led me to this as the authority for vpopmail: http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/vpopmail_std.htm I've installed qmail/vpopmail many ways - from source, using the instructions from qmailrocks and most recently using the instructions found here: http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/install.shtml The toaster method seems to me to be the most comprehensive, and you can use (or not use) ports as you see fit. Installing over your current installation using the toaster instructions should work OK - the install scripts seem to try to do the right thing. Best of luck, -Tom -- Tom Ierna President Shockergroup, Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
John, there's a rationalle for using ports, you know. A very, very strong argument in favor of them. In general I agree. The qmail port, unlike most of the other ports, is junk. Would you mind telling me how to get vpopmail working? If you really want to know, please read chapter 13 of my qmail book. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
7883- Original Message From: Tom Ierna [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've installed qmail/vpopmail many ways - from source, using the instructions from qmailrocks and most recently using the instructions found here: http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/install.shtml108 The toaster method seems to me to be the most comprehensive, and you can use (or not use) ports as you see fit. make test resulted in this: Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed --- t/Toaster.t1 256411 2.44% 22 t/toaster-watcher.t1 256231 4.35% 21 7 tests and 5 subtests skipped. Failed 2/24 test scripts, 91.67% okay. 2/364 subtests failed, 99.45% okay. *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/local/Mail-Toaster-5.03. I'm toast. Rachel Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/ mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt - http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
- Original Message From: John L [EMAIL PROTECTED] In general I agree. The qmail port, unlike most of the other ports, is junk. I didn't realize you're the author of O'Reilly's book on Qmail :) I'll take your opinion a little more seriously. I noticed that although I have all my processes up: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/qmail (105) ps|grep qmail 368 con- S 0:00.15 supervise qmail-send 370 con- S 0:00.16 supervise qmail-smtpd 804 con- S 0:00.00 qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox 2068 p0 D+ 0:00.00 grep qmail nothing new seems to have been added into any of the current logs! Is there a way to build qmail with ports, configuring it around the problems? If not, the reason I'm doing this is to get ezmlm-idx up. How do you recommend I build? TIA, Rachel Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Florentine Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:19 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports Hi; I've installed both qmail and vpopmail from ports. Qmail is up and running because of the great instructions provided. But I haven't figured out how to get vpopmail up (and, of course, working with qmail). Please help. Rachel Hi Rachel, Here is a simpler toaster howto, which worked perfectly for me : http://www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/mailserver/qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin .php Andras Kende http://www.kende.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail Vpopmail From Ports
On Nov 18, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Rachel Florentine wrote: make test resulted in this: Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed -- - t/Toaster.t1 256411 2.44% 22 t/toaster-watcher.t1 256231 4.35% 21 7 tests and 5 subtests skipped. Failed 2/24 test scripts, 91.67% okay. 2/364 subtests failed, 99.45% okay. *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/local/Mail-Toaster-5.03. I'm toast. Rachel IIRC, when installing for the first time, there were make test errors, but they all worked themselves out once all installation and configuration was complete. -- Tom Ierna President Shockergroup, Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
