Re: [Freevo-users] Problems running freevo 1.5.3/ivtv on Fedora Core 3 (python 2.3) - AMD64

2005-05-30 Thread TC Wan

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Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:

| No, I'm guessing a 64 bit issue.
|
|> Freevo2 is not really ready for daily use. I think you should get the
|> latest mmpython, rebuild the cache first ('freevo cache') and see if it
|> works.
|>
|>
| I don't see any reason why it should work, since the bug seems to be in
| doing ioctls in the v4l2 code?
|
|  File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/freevo/tv/v4l2.py", line 219, in
| querycap
|r = fcntl.ioctl(self.device, QUERYCAP_NO, val)
| OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum
|

Oh. I see. In that case you're right, it's probably a 64 bit isssue.
As to whether it is a kernel driver issue or a python issue, I'm not
sure (I'm not so familiar with python).

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Re: [Freevo-users] Problems running freevo 1.5.3/ivtv on Fedora Core 3 (python 2.3) - AMD64

2005-05-30 Thread Jesper Mathiassen

Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:






I don't see any reason why it should work, since the bug seems to be 
in doing ioctls in the v4l2 code?


 File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/freevo/tv/v4l2.py", line 219, 
in querycap

   r = fcntl.ioctl(self.device, QUERYCAP_NO, val)
OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum

I did try, though. No change.

v4l or v4l2 isn't implemented for the PVR-150 cards. you need to set the 
group_type = "ivtv" in your IVTV_OPTIONS . At least that works for me.


only problem is that you'll be watch encoded/decoded video, instead of 
the raw yuy2 stream, which kinda sucks.. I modified freevo to take two 
sets of options for viewing and recording seperatly.


hope this helps.

- Jesper



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Re: [Freevo-users] Problems running freevo 1.5.3/ivtv on Fedora Core 3 (python 2.3) - AMD64

2005-05-30 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Davin Desborough wrote:

Taking a wild guess, but perhaps it's one of your local_conf.py 
options. The "integer is greater than maximum" is what makes me think 
this. I would double check the number settings of TV_IVTV_OPTIONS and 
VIDEO_GROUPS.


You don't mention what card you are using, but here is what I have for 
a pvr 250:


It's a PVR150. It works well enough when just using mplayer on 
/dev/video0, and channel switching (ptune, or the ivtvctl program) is 
also OK.

I am using the latest stable (0.2.0-rc3j) ivtv driver.

My video groups looks like this:

VIDEO_GROUPS = [
VideoGroup(vdev="/dev/video0",
   adev=None,
   input_type='tuner',
   group_type='ivtv',
   input_num=6,
   tuner_norm='pal',
   tuner_chanlist='europe-west',
   desc='Default Video Group',
   recordable=True),
]
I didn't specifiy any TV_IVTV_OPTIONS, but doing so made no difference. 
And looking at the traceback,I don't think the queryfunction (the badly 
formed ioctl) is dependent on any configuration at all either.



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Re: [Freevo-users] Problems running freevo 1.5.3/ivtv on Fedora Core 3 (python 2.3) - AMD64

2005-05-30 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

TC Wan wrote:


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On Mon, May 30, 2005 4:53 am, Trond Eivind Glomsrød said:
 


When trying to view tv via freevo (mplayer  on /dev/video0 works fine,
as does channel switching with ptune), I get the following traceback:

   


[...]
 


From looking at google[1], it looks like this should only be a problem
with 2.4... but that's not what I'm running (attempts to run freevo2
failed as well, due to cache)

[1]
http://www.mail-archive.com/freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg09366.html


   



I can run freevo 1.5.3 fine on FC3 (32 bit). I don't think it's due to FC3
per-se, si
 


No, I'm guessing a 64 bit issue.


Freevo2 is not really ready for daily use. I think you should get the
latest mmpython, rebuild the cache first ('freevo cache') and see if it
works.
 

I don't see any reason why it should work, since the bug seems to be in 
doing ioctls in the v4l2 code?


 File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/freevo/tv/v4l2.py", line 219, 
in querycap

   r = fcntl.ioctl(self.device, QUERYCAP_NO, val)
OverflowError: signed integer is greater than maximum

I did try, though. No change.





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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo CVS compiling problems

2005-05-30 Thread Rob Shortt

Bjoern Franke wrote:

On Mon, 30 May 2005 21:12:01 +0200, you wrote:



I am completely new to Python, what is wrong here?
In which package is the module?

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "setup.py", line 16, in ?
   from util.distribution import setup, Extension, check_libs, 
docbook_finder

 File "./src/util/__init__.py", line 37, in ?
   from fileops import *
 File "./src/util/fileops.py", line 51, in ?
   import popen
 File "./src/util/popen.py", line 45, in ?
   import notifier
ImportError: No module named notifier




You have to download PyNotifier and PyMbus from
ftp://ftp.mbus.org/tzi/dmn/mbus/python/


Or better yet type make in your Freevo dir and it will do that for you. :)

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo CVS compiling problems

2005-05-30 Thread Bjoern Franke
On Mon, 30 May 2005 21:12:01 +0200, you wrote:

>I am completely new to Python, what is wrong here?
>In which package is the module?
>
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "setup.py", line 16, in ?
> from util.distribution import setup, Extension, check_libs, 
>docbook_finder
>   File "./src/util/__init__.py", line 37, in ?
> from fileops import *
>   File "./src/util/fileops.py", line 51, in ?
> import popen
>   File "./src/util/popen.py", line 45, in ?
> import notifier
>ImportError: No module named notifier
>

You have to download PyNotifier and PyMbus from
ftp://ftp.mbus.org/tzi/dmn/mbus/python/

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[Freevo-users] Freevo CVS compiling problems

2005-05-30 Thread Michele Ravani
The only thing I am missing is python-mx-base, which I wasn't able to 
download (see other posting).


I am completely new to Python, what is wrong here?
In which package is the module?

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "setup.py", line 16, in ?
from util.distribution import setup, Extension, check_libs, 
docbook_finder

  File "./src/util/__init__.py", line 37, in ?
from fileops import *
  File "./src/util/fileops.py", line 51, in ?
import popen
  File "./src/util/popen.py", line 45, in ?
import notifier
ImportError: No module named notifier


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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 13:16 -0300, Rob Shortt wrote:
> I'd like to try these by having the video app and OSD engine drawing to 
> premade DFB surfaces inside DFB windows that could be layered 
> apropriately.  This may or may not fly but I'd like to attempt it anywys.

Using vf_outbuf you could have MPlayer write BGR32 to a shared memory
buffer.  If dfb lets you map an address in memory to a dfb surface, then
this would be quite straight forward.  The code to vf_outbuf is very
trivial and you could probably do something similar with xine in 10
minutes.  In fact, vf_outbuf just opens up a whole lot of interesting
possibilities that I'm surprised mplayer doesn't already have something
like it.

(vf_outbuf actually makes more sense as a video out, but for MeBox I
need the mplayer instance to be able to render to both the buffer and
vo_xv, or only one of them, and that can be adjusted at runtime.)

Jason.



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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Rob Shortt

Karl Lattimer wrote:

Below are some things I think we should start discussing;
a, Timeshifting, do we know what is required to achieve this?


I have some ideas for doing this with xine and have just sent an email 
to freevo-devel, "timeshifting with xine".




b, Picture in Picture
c, Video thumbnailer/miniview
d, 32bit RGBA OSD overlay


I'm pretty hot on trying these things with DirectFB.  Tack's got some 
pretty nead stuff going here using mplayer too which he's just mentioned.


I'd like to try these by having the video app and OSD engine drawing to 
premade DFB surfaces inside DFB windows that could be layered 
apropriately.  This may or may not fly but I'd like to attempt it anywys.


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[Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Dirk Meyer
Chad Robinson wrote:
> Dirk Meyer wrote:
>
>> Wealso need people doing some hacks in xine/mplayer. In case you know
>> C this could be a part. 
>
> What kind of hacks?

http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/freevo-2.0/HelpNeeded

The section about external programs. More details can be provided when
needed. We had some ideas but I had no energy to write everything
down. 


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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 16:04 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> Below are some things I think we should start discussing;

I have all these requirements for MeBox too.

> a, Timeshifting, do we know what is required to achieve this?

No doubt you can borrow from http://sault.org/mebox/livetv.php

> b, Picture in Picture

See d.

> c, Video thumbnailer/miniview

vf_outbuf:  http://sault.org/~tack/vf_outbuf.jpg 

Those are all running movies that are being rendered to a canvas.  The
canvas there is Evas, but it'd be trivial to make that work with Mevas.

> d, 32bit RGBA OSD overlay

vf_osd: http://sault.org/~tack/vf_osd.jpg

vf_osd performs well enough that picture-in-picture is possible.  (X2 is
a running movie on the OSD from another mplayer instance using
vf_outbuf.)   See the current version of the docs at
http://sault.org/~tack/vf_osd.txt for more info.

Dischi knows a bit about what I'm working on.  Basically vf_osd is a
successor to my bmovl2 work.  It provides a more generic OSD interface.
I will be submitting a patch to the mplayer list this week.  When I do,
please join into the discussion so that the mplayer developers will see
there is a use (and a demand) for something like this.

Cheers,
Jason.



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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Karl Lattimer
Ah, the joys of a bank holiday monday, except for the thunder and  
lightning its quite a day.


I too play with C, however hacking on someone elses code can be a bit  
of a nightmare, it all depends on what you want doing. I'll give  
everything a try so lets hear what needs to be done.


Below are some things I think we should start discussing;
a, Timeshifting, do we know what is required to achieve this?
b, Picture in Picture
c, Video thumbnailer/miniview
d, 32bit RGBA OSD overlay

These are the things that lets freevo down.

On the subject of timeshifting, I think this has to be achieved by  
having a time shift server, like the recording server only that we  
would need to record constantly. I think, and correct me if I'm  
wrong, that the best method of achieving this is to have an  
application running which is constantly recording, then if you switch  
to TV you just click in to the stream.


So for instance I boot freevo at 6pm, I watch a movie and by 8pm I  
want to catch a show on TV, the timeshift server has been running  
since 6pm the time i started freevo when I click on to the TV a  
player app starts up and fast forwards 2hrs to the current time, so  
the timeshift server would have to keep track of when the recorder  
app started, and as the stream truncates the beginning (we couldn't  
have it fill the disk) the timeshift server keeps track of this in  
relation to the current point in the stream. Now because my show  
started five minutes ago because I insist on a cup of tea I just hit  
the rewind key and start from the beginning of the show.


As far as picture in picture and miniview are concerned, I think we'd  
need a borderless window manager for that. Then we could start up  
miniview/pip as its own window on top of whatever is currently going  
on, by switching the child app too and from full screen/maximized it  
should be relatively easy to handle the miniview scenario, picture in  
picture may be different.


Anyway, metacity handles many video windows on top of each other  
playing (I did this earlier) and I imagine it doesn't take much CPU  
time (by today's standards) to get fairly fluid playback on multiple  
streams.


How about this for an idea then,

Freevo becomes window managed all the child apps are also window  
managed, then at least with a miniview we can compete with M$ and  
others, I don't imagine it would be too difficult to get this going.  
It may also be an idea to create a freevo session manager simplifying  
the transition. You see personally there are many things I do when I  
start X for freevo, this includes correcting the screen alignment,  
turning off suspend on my TV, make sure LIRC is up and running, make  
sure any network shares are connected etc... Now this would be much  
easier with a session manager, the session manager would make sure  
that everything specified in the config file (freevo boot) was  
started correctly and all was well with the world, start up the  
window manager then freevo-timshift, freevo-recording freevo-encoding  
etc...


Now for a window manager here's a possibility http:// 
evilwm.sourceforge.net/


and for time shifting fftv may be worth a look here http:// 
fftv.sourceforge.net/


Regards,
Karl

On 30 May 2005, at 14:36, Chad Robinson wrote:


Dirk Meyer wrote:



Wealso need people doing some hacks in xine/mplayer. In case you know
C this could be a part.



What kind of hacks?



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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Chad Robinson
Dirk Meyer wrote:

> Wealso need people doing some hacks in xine/mplayer. In case you know
> C this could be a part. 

What kind of hacks?



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[Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Dirk Meyer
Fabio Papa wrote:
> [SNIP..]
>> Great ideas, but still, we need people to do it.
>>
> [SNIP..]
>
> Ok, I'm a great fan of Freevo, and I feel I'm in debt with you all,
> and I sincerly want to help. But thing is, I know very little of
> python programming, but I guess I can learn.

Wealso need people doing some hacks in xine/mplayer. In case you know
C this could be a part. 


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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Rob Shortt

Fabio Papa wrote:
Ok, I'm a great fan of Freevo, and I feel I'm in debt with you all, and 
I sincerly want to help. But thing is, I know very little of python 
programming, but I guess I can learn.

Any suggestion of where/what should I look for?


There's good docs and a tutorial (for each latest minor version) on the 
Python site:


http://www.python.org/doc/2.3.5/tut/tut.html

Its pretty good and there's lots of docs there, the module index and 
library reference are pretty good too.


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Re: [Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Fabio Papa

[SNIP..]


Great ideas, but still, we need people to do it.


[SNIP..]

Ok, I'm a great fan of Freevo, and I feel I'm in debt with you all, and 
I sincerly want to help. But thing is, I know very little of python 
programming, but I guess I can learn.

Any suggestion of where/what should I look for?

Thanks!

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[Freevo-users] Re: FreeVo vs M$ Multimedia PC

2005-05-30 Thread Dirk Meyer
Hi,

Karl Lattimer wrote:
> While we all love tinkering with freevo, as hackers do, and we love the
> excitement of getting some cool feature that Dischi or others have
> written, isn't it time that we all seriously looked at the commercial
> potential of FreeVo?

Yes. We need more developers and a company using Freevo may just what
we need. They make money selling the hardware and support open
source. You can see the problem we have right now by looking at the
cvs list. I changed/added stuff more than once a week for a long time,
but the latest weeks were hard at work (like Rob wrote: you need
something to put food on the table). 

> Let me draw your attention to this article;
> http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS6031471658.html
>
> It seems microsoft is really pushing the media centre PC product into
> our homes

Yes, and not only microsoft. Also Hifi-vendors see the market. Freevo
may be older than MS MediaCenter, but they have more man power.

> Freevo 2.0 is going to give us a whole new system to tinker with, now
> this could just be an opportune time to say "well, what do we need to
> make freevo a commercially viable product?"

Good question. The problem with the good ideas is that we need people
to do this. There is the HelpNeeded page at the 2.0 wiki. The hard
stuff like bmovl for xine and timeshifting is still on the todo. 

I know that there are some patches in the devel list I havn't looked
at (no time at all right now). I will do, but it's all small stuff.

> Imagine if freevo had features like, a configuration front end and time
> shifting? How about refinements to things like the encoding server so we
> get a progress display.

Great ideas, but still, we need people to do it.

> There are many other features which would be 'cool' for freevo, I
> remember hearing some noise on the list about multiple tuner scheduling
> in fv2.0. How about iconbar information regarding TV-Schedules
> (Now/Next) cycling through while you're deciding what to watch,
> Recording server activity or a freevo 'dashboard' style experience
> instead of an iconbar, (as per apple's tiger dashboard), allowing you to
> show/hide the dashboard when a movie is playing for things like email
> and alike. And of course, a miniview is a must have so you can still
> watch you're entertainment as you're using the interface.

I also have nice ideas with encoding server and recordings. 


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[Freevo-users] Re: survey results

2005-05-30 Thread Dirk Meyer
Stephan Kanthak wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I just remembered the survey. What was the outcome? Have the results been
> published yet? It would be nice to see what the rest of the freevo community
> uses (to check what are the best tested mainstream features) and what is
> most wanted for the future...

Good question. I guess someone should take a deeper look at it. Since
I reply to your mail from march now, you can see I have no time for
stuff like this right now.


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