Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Hoju Dingo
On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 05:58  PM, Robin Ashe wrote:
You're working under the false assumption that I was trying to back up 
my
previous comment.

This, however is:
Regardless, I don't see how putting the blame on a 3rd party because 
apple
didn't make it has any point. Apple is responsible for the business 
partners
they chose. Same with blaming Motorola for not improving the G4 fast 
enough.
Sure they were dragging their heels, but Apple entered into a business
agreement with them, so they're responsible for the outcome.
This sort of blanket statement flawed logic is really a waste of 
electrons.
How is Apple responsible for what any 3rd party choses to do? Any 
rational
response must depend on the timescale of course! Time for rational 
analysis
as what to do next. Obviously Apple has finally decided to give up on
Motorola and go with IBM. Should they have dropped Motorola earlier?
Retrospective hindsight is easy, but one could argue decisions made in 
haste
are usually not optimal.

Of course PC makers such as Dell and Gateway always make optimal 
decisions!

Think first before posting,
Dingo.
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Re: iMac tray problem OSes

2004-02-01 Thread Robin Ashe
On 1/31/04 11:44 PM, David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ah, the subject line of this e-mail thread was written by you and it
 was about how the tray loading iMac drive was flawed, that is what I
 referenced [the CD-ROM drives] in my above statement, you reading OK?
 Need some help?

You're the one who needs the help. The title clearly states Re: iMac tray
problem not iMac tray flaws. There's a difference.

 
 There is a control panel for just that ... you aren't real familiar
 with Classic Mac OS either are you? Oh and Classic Mac OS after System
 7 will respect file extensions if you ask it to.

I've already used that control panel, and set all extensions for text based
documents to MS Word. It ignored it.

 As for Flash, if you install Flash player and read the dialog boxes for
 the installer there is one that states: memory should be increased for
 your browser, do you want that done at this time? I don't see clicking
 yes as manually increasing the memory.

Clicking is a manual action. And even Linux dynamically allocates memory.
It's obviously a bad sign when the Mac needs more configuration than Linux
does.

 Only used it a couple hours, eh? Good luck to you with that.

Way to make unsubstantiated comments.

 
 Uhm, that is all well and great for viruses that are e-mailed, but the
 worst and the newest for the past year have all been self-propagating,
 they don't use e-mail ... I know that is a hard thing to grasp, but
 seriously, slammer, not an e-mail virus, there have been a couple
 before and after slammer, in fact there was a new one out this past
 week.

I didn't say I don't use a Firewall, but then again, Mac users use them too.

 
 Anyone who says, I know enough ... always makes me smile. I never
 have to worry about them knowing more than me. Its good to be
 unsatisfied.

As long as you're happy in your little world.
 

 
 You don't have a lot of depth here. The PowerBook G4 Ti was declared
 the best available laptop by PC World, PC Mag, Business Week, and
 Business 2.0 when it came out. The PowerBook 12 and 17 models were
 regarded as being in the top two contenders for high end laptops.

That was then, this is now. The Wallstreet was the best when it came out. It
certainly isn't now. One thing is for sure though, I would pick a Pismo over
a Powerbook G4 any day.

 You get what you pay for. You are in school, eh? University of
 something or other you said? College, good, time to learn something.
 You can buy a cheap car and customize it, or cheap computer components.
 Depending on if you like analogies or not. However, you can't match the
 feature set of a pro level Mac with a home built PC at the same price
 point. You can justify it by writing off features you say you don't
 need or aren't important, but you can't build something with feature
 parity so the argument is moot.

Are you just blowing hot air or are you willing to back that up? Give me the
specs of a specific Mac and I'll show you a PC that does the same job.


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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Hoju Dingo
Gee ... my Pismo has been very reliable since 2000, so maybe I just
got lucky. H ... compared to comparable (or even more expensive)
PC laptops, I'm singing and dancing and even am able to run the latest
OSX operating system (not to mention OS9, Linux, BSD, Windows ... etc)
which allows one to have a really nice GUI and Unix as well
(rather than the usual Windows/Linux dual boot saga ... been there done 
that!)
(See also http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/vpc/ for how many more 
operating
systems one can run on a Powerbook. Rather harder on a PC laptop.)

My opinion is based on being a programmer on multiple platforms since 
the
late 70's and while sidetracked by the wonderful Amiga (where I 
predicted
in 1986 that a consistent GUI on top of Unix would be the ultimate
good thing (till the next good thing). Unfortunately, Commodore lost 
the plot
and I had to wait some 15 years to get where I wanted to be! Sigh!
(PC's for me were an intermittent passing phase since DOS in the early 
80's,
I would rather avoid them but have used W3.1, W95, W98, WNT, WXP in more
ways than most PC-folks!)

Enjoy,
Dingo.
P.S. Betting on ill-defined statements is rather pointless.

On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 06:00  PM, Robin Ashe wrote:

Are you willing to bet money on that? Because I'm willing to bet money
against it. Quality Macs have been disappearing since 2000.


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Re: Personal LaserWriter LS on WallStreet

2004-02-01 Thread John Acuff
On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 01:46 AM, John Acuff wrote:

On Saturday, January 31, 2004, at 01:13 PM, John Slavin wrote:

Well, it's definitely not postscript.  You can look here:

http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.legacy/laser.html

Under the language, it says quickdraw.

Compare that to my old 4/600, which notes that it is a postscript 
printer.  And If you look at the ports, while they look the same, as 
the applespec notes, one is a plain old serial, and the other on the 
4/600 is localtalk.  Admittedly, an ethernet port would be far 
superior, but at lest with the 4/600 you can use a cheap ethernet to 
localtalk bridge and print straight out of OSX.

One other thing you said confuses me.  You say to use gimp-print, you 
must had a postscript printer.  If you have a postscript printer, OSX 
should have the drivers anyway, apart from gimp-print.

True, however Gimp-print provides many more drivers than are included 
with OS X. But the printer still has to be Postscript. Tho there may 
be a way to use Ghostscript to make Postscript printers such as the 
PLW 300 work under X, but I don't know how.

Oops, make that non-Postscript printers like the PLW 300. My 
bad..

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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Robin Ashe
On 2/1/04 3:28 AM, Bruce Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 2/1/04 3:21 AM, Robin Ashe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 2/1/04 2:16 AM, Bruce Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Can the moderator please block further posts from this jackass? We don't
 need a Mac hater on a Mac help list!!
 
 
 There's a difference between being a Mac hater and not being a PC hater. If
 I was a Mac hater I wouldn't have one.
 
 You certainly know how to waste a lot of time and space acting like one.
 

David did just as much wasting.


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Check this out!

2004-02-01 Thread Tim
http://www.mymacfamily.com/images/pepsilaw.mov

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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Andrew, a Mac Freak
On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 03:34 AM, Hoju Dingo wrote:

Gee ... my Pismo has been very reliable since 2000 snip
I second that...I bought my G4 iBook 2 months ago and it is working 
much better than any *New* Windows I have ever encountered.  Apple is 
how it's always been:  making the best computers on the market that 
pave the way for Windows (as Steve Jobs said in MacWorld, We finally 
got out ahead again with Mac OS X, and I think you'll see Microsoft 
copying that in the future.)  Sure once in a while someone gets a 
faulty system delivered, but that's no where near Windows computer 
makers (such as Dell).  Heck, who knows the number of faulty Windows 
systems shipped every week!  Mostly, Windows computer manufacturers 
just care about making money on cheap computers.  The low-end iBook is 
more expensive than a 1.6 GHz HP laptop!  But you can certainly expect 
more from the Apple now and in the future.

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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread markemmanuel
That's odd that that happened with the Dells since the HDD, DVD drive, 
and power supply are from the same manufacturers that Apple uses.

On Jan 31, 2004, at 9:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Here's something you'll never hear an Apple user say:

Yeah, they make a great computer. Well, the hard drive died a week 
after I
bought it and then a couple weeks later the power supply fizzled. 
After I
replaced that the computer ran like a charm for another couple weeks 
and
then the DVD drive stopped working. Apple sent out a replacement and 
it was
kinda hard but I got it working again. So I guess I had a few problems 
but
heck, Apple sure does make a great computer!

I must have at least 10 clients who have said something like this to 
me -
about their Dell. Apple users would start up a class action website 
with
this kind of treatment.
--markemmanuel

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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread markemmanuel
He's not saying he likes Windows based PCs.  He's just stating saying 
we either don't care or some of us have a superiority complex.  I don't 
care unless I am building a box for someone.

Talking about busted PCs, my old Beige G3 had its HDD die three months 
after my Apple Care warranty died, six months after that, my 
powersupply died.  I had to buy a replacement part on eBay.  A year 
after my computer just stopped working.  I bought a new motherboard 
hoping that would do the trick.  I swapped everything on the old board 
and put it on the new board.  Everything booted up fine.  Since my 
computing needs became increasingly mobile, I was seriously considering 
a Dell or Sony.  I ended up with a Pismo because my old 6100 was very 
dependable.

Honestly, there are times where I've considered going Win because my 
computer can't play the latest games and run other stuff like 
photoshop.  Fortunately for Apple, I don't play video games much and my 
Pismo is still running strong.  BTW-I'd be using Windows XP if I had a 
Windows based computer.  My brother's box has been running if 
flawlessly.

john, how often do you use the power of UNIX and its super flexible CLI?

On Feb 1, 2004, at 12:52 AM, John Acuff wrote:

I don't buy that. I think it's more likely that Mac users don't care 
or like
to think that PC users put up with crap so that they can feel better 
about
themselves.
You know, this really begs the question; if you are such a PC fan, 
what are you doing with a Mac in the first place? Maybe you should 
sell that Wallstreet to someone who would appreciate it, and buy 
yourself one of those quality Dell laptops. Then you can run your 
beloved Windows ME to your hearts content.

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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread markemmanuel
I personally thought they were getting better.

On Feb 1, 2004, at 1:00 AM, Robin Ashe wrote:

Are you willing to bet money on that? Because I'm willing to bet money
against it. Quality Macs have been disappearing since 2000.
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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread markemmanuel
On Feb 1, 2004, at 3:26 AM, Robin Ashe wrote:

You're not familiar with the concept of conservation of energy are you?
Nitpicking is a dangerous thing.  He was just screwing around.

They're responsible for choosing the third party.
Yeah, you have a point. They have to make sure they're receiving 
dependable products because they have their names stamped on the stuff. 
 It ultimately becomes their responsibility as it could tarnish their 
reputation.

People were saying they should have dropped Motorola for years before 
they
moved to IBM. Making the switch 1 or 2 years earlier wouldn't have been
hasty.
If Apple switched to IBM two years ago we'd be using G3 chips running 
cooler and faster.  There would be no G4 in Macs.  Also, Apple might 
had had a contract with Motorola as well.

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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread David M. Ensteness
I realized you were a troll and that we were wasting people's time so I 
apologized and stopped. Maybe when you grow up you can make big 
decisions too.

Now, the list nanny has asked for this thread to stop as well ... 
perhaps this time you can not just rename it and keep plugging along 
Robin ...

I for one and done with all this.

David

On Feb 1, 2004, at 6:08 AM, Robin Ashe wrote:

On 2/1/04 3:28 AM, Bruce Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

on 2/1/04 3:21 AM, Robin Ashe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2/1/04 2:16 AM, Bruce Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Can the moderator please block further posts from this jackass? We 
don't
need a Mac hater on a Mac help list!!

There's a difference between being a Mac hater and not being a PC 
hater. If
I was a Mac hater I wouldn't have one.

You certainly know how to waste a lot of time and space acting like 
one.

David did just as much wasting.


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Re: Wallstreet fixed in the PDQ? What is the PDQ?

2004-02-01 Thread David M. Ensteness
Actually I haven't ever heard of wide spread sleep issues on WS PBs. 
However there was a hinge problem with them.

David

On Feb 1, 2004, at 12:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the info about the Wallstreet 'sleep' problem. What's the 
PDQ?
Any other problems I should be aware of with this model of laptop?

Jocelyn


Jocelyn
Then it should be a good deal. I don't know if it was fixed in the 
PDQ, but
my Wallstreet has major troubles going to sleep, and most of the 
crashes I
have are after it has gone to sleep and been woken up again. If you 
have to
save battery power it's probably better to just turn it off. Otherwise
disable the hard drive sleep settings. Having the screen go to sleep 
quickly
is probably the best method of saving power.


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Re: Wallstreet fixed in the PDQ? What is the PDQ?

2004-02-01 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 01/02/04 13:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the info about the Wallstreet 'sleep' problem. What's the PDQ?
 Any other problems I should be aware of with this model of laptop?
 
 Jocelyn

The PDQ was another code name for the second generation Wallstreet, IIRC.
See 
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g3/stats/powerbook_g3_300.h
tml

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Re: External USB Drives question

2004-02-01 Thread Jeff Hubatka
From: markemmanuel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: External USB Drives question
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:25:15 -0600
Okay, so... I encountered my first school project that requires that I
have a floppy.  My Pismo doesn't have a floppy and I won't be using
floppy until another few years.  On eBay there seems to be a large
number of floppies up for auction but I want something to black like my
pismo.  The only ones I've found that are black are the Dell, Sony, and
Teac drives.  Will they work on my 'book?
--markemmanuel
If you are looking for an external, then any USB drive should work, at 
least in OSX.
You can get a SuperDisk floppy to use internally with a Pismo, which 
goes in the expansion bay. I have one that I use with a Pismo and 
Lombard. They come up cheap on eBay frequently enough, or check with 
the Swap List. OSX recognizes them with no software, OS9 may need the 
downloadable driver. They won't format disks in PC format, but reading 
and writing to same are fine.

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Re: External USB Drives question

2004-02-01 Thread Kyle Hansen
This thread is dead.  Drop it.
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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Frank P. Eigler
Forget that. I say we all meet at a Quake site and have at it! :-)

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, David M. Ensteness wrote:

 We all going to meet on the playground during recess and settle this?
 Your bet money thing is cute, I haven't heard it since the beginning of
 high school, but its cute ...

 Come now, more Mac bashing with a complete lack of substantiation ...

 What does that equal T-R-O-L-L.

 Cheers to you,

 David


 On Feb 1, 2004, at 1:00 AM, Robin Ashe wrote:

  Are you willing to bet money on that? Because I'm willing to bet money
  against it. Quality Macs have been disappearing since 2000.
 
 
  Here's something you'll never hear an Apple user say:
 
  Yeah, they make a great computer. Well, the hard drive died a week
  after I
  bought it and then a couple weeks later the power supply fizzled.
  After I
  replaced that the computer ran like a charm for another couple weeks
  and
  then the DVD drive stopped working. Apple sent out a replacement and
  it was
  kinda hard but I got it working again. So I guess I had a few
  problems but
  heck, Apple sure does make a great computer!
 
  I must have at least 10 clients who have said something like this to
  me -
  about their Dell. Apple users would start up a class action website
  with
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Re: External USB Drives question

2004-02-01 Thread markemmanuel
Kyle,

Why are you killing my thread?  I want information on USB Floppy drives 
for my Pismo.  I want a black floppy drive to match the computer of my 
'book.  All the USB floppy drives on ebay that's listed for macs are 
all fruity iMac colors.  The black ones were IBM, Dell, and Sony 
products so I wanted to know if it works before I place a bid on it.  
It's not my fault that my school is using all Windows computers and my 
teacher wants my project done on a floppy disk.  Plus, it's a 
difference between paying $5 and $25.

Before killing my thread, I learned of an internal floppy drive by 
Smartdisk.  It was very informative and that post meant that I didn't 
have to haul a USB cord or an external floppy drive if I can find the 
product on eBay.

I'm really offended that you think that I'm adding excess fuel to that 
flame war in the thread Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old 
myth!!!  Yes, I gave my opinion in response to certain posts to this 
thread but they were due to my experience from my old Beige G3.  Look, 
after debating whether to go to Windows stayed with Macintosh because 
of the quality of my 6100.  I have a Pismo that hasn't caused any 
problems for me and that's why I'm on this list.  I'm really really 
offended that you consider me and my new thread trollish material.  I 
insist you apologize or tell me that you wrote that accidentally.

On Feb 1, 2004, at 1:47 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote:

This thread is dead.  Drop it.
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Re: External USB Drives question

2004-02-01 Thread markemmanuel
Sorry for posting this to the list.  I meant to send this to Kyle 
directly.

On Feb 1, 2004, at 3:04 PM, markemmanuel wrote:

Kyle,

Why are you killing my thread? ...
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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Robin Ashe
On 2/1/04 12:06 PM, Frank P. Eigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Forget that. I say we all meet at a Quake site and have at it! :-)
 

I'm more of an Unreal Tournament fan, but Quake would probably be better
considering it doesn't make good use of the second mouse button!


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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Robin Ashe
On 2/1/04 10:42 AM, David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I realized you were a troll and that we were wasting people's time so I
 apologized and stopped. Maybe when you grow up you can make big
 decisions too.
 
 Now, the list nanny has asked for this thread to stop as well ...
 perhaps this time you can not just rename it and keep plugging along
 Robin ...
 
 I for one and done with all this.
 

I wasn't the one who renamed it. Dan K brought it up again. Get your facts
straight.


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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread Robin Ashe
On 2/1/04 9:20 AM, markemmanuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Isn't the main reason for new Apple hardware to run the latest BSD
 stuff (sans FreeBSD), Linux, Windows (via VirtualPC), and other stuff
 due to Apple's acceptance of Openfirmware while Windows based
 manufacturers still rely on BIOS?  Also, isn't running Virtual PC make
 Window's painfully slow on Apple hardware?  Remember, there's always an
 open source project do do crazy things like bring MacOS X to the x86-64
 environment.
 
I get decent performance out of VPC as long as I don't run any graphic
intensive programs. The S3 Trio it emulates is really slow even when it
comes to screen redraws, and games would be completely unplayable.

I've benchmarked my VPC as a 333MHz P5, which for basic software is about as
good as my desktop. The 4200 RPM hard drive does become a bit of a
bottleneck though.


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Re: External USB Drives question

2004-02-01 Thread Robin Ashe
On 2/1/04 11:47 AM, Kyle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This thread is dead.  Drop it.

Seems like a valid question to me. Why is it dead?


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Linux on Mac hardware

2004-02-01 Thread Hoju Dingo
Hi All,

All hardware can have problems but I've experienced more problems with 
PC
systems, particular PC laptops (e.g. a Gateway brick) and PC 
workstations
(a highly configured Pentium research machine where my disk 
died/fried?).

On Monday, February 2, 2004, at 04:20  AM, markemmanuel wrote:
Isn't the main reason for new Apple hardware to run the latest BSD 
stuff (sans FreeBSD), Linux, Windows (via VirtualPC), and other stuff 
due to Apple's acceptance of Openfirmware while Windows based 
manufacturers still rely on BIOS?
The advent of Open firmware may have made it easier but Linux (and BSD 
and
possibly even Minix) have been available on the Mac platform many model 
aeons ago.
see e.g.
http://www.maconlinux.org/
http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/

Now I've only played with YellowDog personally but spent much happy 
time with LinuxPPC
as a dual boot on my Pismo with OS8/9 until a more mature OS X (10.1) 
came out.
I'm happier not to have to dual boot and also not deal with the 
cross-partition format
incompatibilies.

Your link failed to include links to Debian, Mandrake, and Yellow dog. 
 They all make Linux for Macs and work on in a very dilligently
The link ( http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/vpc/)
was just an (rather tongue in cheek) aside. 8-)
A site I came across where some dude chose to stuff as many OSes as he 
could
on his PowerBook (mostly using VPC) and it wasn't the main flow of my
response to the erroneous assertion that Macs have been getting less 
reliable.

Your sentence appears to fade off here  hmmm ... I already referred 
to Linux
in my original post. One flavour is much like another (all Linux is 
like icecream!)
Actually there are (were) many more distributions e.g. LinuxPPC, Suse, 
MKLinux, HA Linux.
See http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html or http://www.distrowatch.com/
for a current list.

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PRAM battery

2004-02-01 Thread JOHN.E.ABRAHAM
Hello Listers,

I am new to PowerBooks but not to Macs.

I suspect the PRAM battery has failed on my WallStreet 233 mhz
revised model with 512k cache.
The date keeps on needing to be reset every time I bootup.   On my
desktop Mac this is normally corrected with a new PRAM battery which
I have fitted my self.
I have checked in many books to find what a PowerBook PRAM battery
looks like and where it is fitted inside but with out any luck.
Could someone point me in the direction for this information, and
what type of battery and cost could I expect.  The desktop version is
normally under £10.00 UK and I am able to obtain one at a good
electronics shop. Would this apply to the PowerBook version.
Thanks for any info

John Abraham.





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Re: PRAM battery

2004-02-01 Thread Robin Ashe
On 2/1/04 4:02 PM, JOHN.E.ABRAHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Listers,
 
 I am new to PowerBooks but not to Macs.
 
 I suspect the PRAM battery has failed on my WallStreet 233 mhz
 revised model with 512k cache.
 The date keeps on needing to be reset every time I bootup.   On my
 desktop Mac this is normally corrected with a new PRAM battery which
 I have fitted my self.
 
 I have checked in many books to find what a PowerBook PRAM battery
 looks like and where it is fitted inside but with out any luck.
 
 Could someone point me in the direction for this information, and
 what type of battery and cost could I expect.  The desktop version is
 normally under £10.00 UK and I am able to obtain one at a good
 electronics shop. Would this apply to the PowerBook version.
 
 Thanks for any info
 
 John Abraham.
 



I can't provide any specific advice, but
http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum3.html might help with finding
what the PRAM Battery looks like and where it is.


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Wallstreet, pram battery, and other battery question

2004-02-01 Thread JocBr8
Ok, I test drove the Wall street PowerBook that is for sale for $200 today. 
The date and time is not holding, so I assume it needs a Pram battery. 

The guy told me laptop don't have a PRAM battery. Is that true? If it does 
have a PRAM battery, I need a webpage for PRAM batteries with prices.

Also, it has a SCSI adapter since the SCSI port on the Wall street is 
nonstandard.  His adapter looks like a pin is missing. He said it came looking like 
that. He did not have a SCSI peripheral to demo the adapter.

When he did a demo on the internal zip drive, he just opened the ZIP Tools 
disc window and commented on the loud sound of the ZIP drive. It sounds like my 
old ZIP, but I'm remembering that some ZIPs were recalled due to  chatter 
problem and for ruining zip discs. 
I don't know if he had a recalled zip drive.

Then, when he unplugged the laptop from the wall, it died. He finally 
confessed that the battery was not holding a charge. 
So I need a website for  a battery and the price.

I went to the webpage that a nice list person sent me today. It says that 
this model usually goes for $500- $700. So, I'm a little nervous about the low 
price. I asked him to meet me at a Mac place to have it checked over next week. 
I have a gift certificate to that store from my User group. I told him I'd 
apply my $50 gift cert toward the inspection of the laptop.  Maybe that was too 
generous on my part.

He is giving me several licensed software programs that I need, but I need to 
iron out these other issues. He seemed a bit too attached to receiving the 
$200 right away.

Any help and info regarding these issues would me appreciated. Wow, this is 
like buying a used car.

Jocelyn

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Re: Wallstreet fixed in the PDQ? What is the PDQ?

2004-02-01 Thread Clark Martin
At 2:11 PM -0500 2/1/04, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
on 01/02/04 13:54, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually I haven't ever heard of wide spread sleep issues on WS PBs.
 However there was a hinge problem with them.
I've read about a few sleep problems, not sure if they involved a
Wallstreet. The problem can occur if you replace the internal hard drive. As
I understand it, when you close the lid, there is a magnet-based switch that
tells the PowerBook the lid is closed. When you open the lid, the magnet
releases the switch and the PowerBook can awake. There are some drives that
will generate a stronger magnetic field which may causes the switch to stay
closed, thus preventing the PowerBook to notice the lid has been opened.
That problem does indeed happen on the Powerbook.  One can shield the 
drive with Mu metal to fix it.  This is a material that has a high 
magnetic permeability which keeps the magnetic fields from the drive 
confined.  I instead just keep turning the computer while tapping the 
shift key till it wakes up (which it always does).
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Re: Linux on Mac hardware

2004-02-01 Thread markemmanuel
The advent of Open firmware may have made it easier but Linux (and BSD 
and
possibly even Minix) have been available on the Mac platform many 
model aeons ago.
see e.g.
http://www.maconlinux.org/
http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/

Now I've only played with YellowDog personally but spent much happy 
time with LinuxPPC
as a dual boot on my Pismo with OS8/9 until a more mature OS X (10.1) 
came out.
I'm happier not to have to dual boot and also not deal with the 
cross-partition format
incompatibilies.
It made things a lot easier as FreeBSD, Debian, and Mandrake created 
ports of their OS.  mklinux was a pain when I used it on my 6100 and so 
many people flamed me it wasn't really Linux because it relied on a 
Mach kernel on the MacOS side and it needed something like BootX. I got 
it running but all I did was play Tetris. :-P  It was supposed to 
become my Apache server at home.

A site I came across where some dude chose to stuff as many OSes as he 
could
on his PowerBook (mostly using VPC) and it wasn't the main flow of my
response to the erroneous assertion that Macs have been getting less 
reliable.
okay...

Your sentence appears to fade off here  hmmm ... I already 
referred to Linux
in my original post. One flavour is much like another (all Linux is 
like icecream!)
Actually there are (were) many more distributions e.g. LinuxPPC, Suse, 
MKLinux, HA Linux.
See http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html or http://www.distrowatch.com/
for a current list.
Yeah... I had to type it out quick as I was on my way to church.

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Re: Linux on Mac hardware

2004-02-01 Thread markemmanuel
I forgot to ask the question...

Is the mkLinux project dead?

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Re: OT: please stop rehashing this old myth!!!

2004-02-01 Thread David M. Ensteness
This thread was killed ... you should check your facts.

David

Robin:
I wasn't the one who renamed it. Dan K brought it up again. Get your 
facts
straight.


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Re: PRAM battery

2004-02-01 Thread Hugo Trottier
Hi John to greatly simplify the equation just go to any Apple resellers 
with the precise version of your Wallstreet and they will sell you the 
proper battery on top of it they will be glad to give you some tip as 
to how to change it and reset (case being) the Cuda.

Regards

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On 1-Feb-04, at 7:02 PM, JOHN.E.ABRAHAM wrote:
Hello Listers,

I am new to PowerBooks but not to Macs.

I suspect the PRAM battery has failed on my WallStreet 233 mhz
revised model with 512k cache.
The date keeps on needing to be reset every time I bootup.   On my
desktop Mac this is normally corrected with a new PRAM battery which
I have fitted my self.
I have checked in many books to find what a PowerBook PRAM battery
looks like and where it is fitted inside but with out any luck.
Could someone point me in the direction for this information, and
what type of battery and cost could I expect.  The desktop version is
normally under £10.00 UK and I am able to obtain one at a good
electronics shop. Would this apply to the PowerBook version.
Thanks for any info

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Is this an urban myth? iBook funk after one year of use.

2004-02-01 Thread JocBr8
A Mac repair guy was telling me that iBooks develop a smell after a year due 
to the kind of plastic used. The heat makes the plastic stink.
Anybody know if this is true?

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Re: Wallstreet, pram battery, and other battery question

2004-02-01 Thread Hugo Trottier
Jocelyn here are my 2 cents; You could always get the serial number and 
go yourself to a Mac Resellers, get it check 1) To make certain that it 
is not stolen good (in that case no Apple resellers will repair it) 2) 
To know exactly it's age and who was the original owner. If the sellers 
does seems to eager to get his $$$ be careful, it's always better to 
walk away with your $$ than a Mac that is going to become a headache 
over time and that will end up costing 2 or 3 times as much just in 
parts.

Good Luck

Hugo Trottier
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On 1-Feb-04, at 7:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I test drove the Wall street PowerBook that is for sale for $200 
today.
The date and time is not holding, so I assume it needs a Pram battery.

The guy told me laptop don't have a PRAM battery. Is that true? If it 
does
have a PRAM battery, I need a webpage for PRAM batteries with prices.

Also, it has a SCSI adapter since the SCSI port on the Wall street is
nonstandard.  His adapter looks like a pin is missing. He said it came 
looking like
that. He did not have a SCSI peripheral to demo the adapter.

When he did a demo on the internal zip drive, he just opened the ZIP 
Tools
disc window and commented on the loud sound of the ZIP drive. It 
sounds like my
old ZIP, but I'm remembering that some ZIPs were recalled due to  
chatter
problem and for ruining zip discs.
I don't know if he had a recalled zip drive.

Then, when he unplugged the laptop from the wall, it died. He finally
confessed that the battery was not holding a charge.
So I need a website for  a battery and the price.
I went to the webpage that a nice list person sent me today. It says 
that
this model usually goes for $500- $700. So, I'm a little nervous about 
the low
price. I asked him to meet me at a Mac place to have it checked over 
next week.
I have a gift certificate to that store from my User group. I told him 
I'd
apply my $50 gift cert toward the inspection of the laptop.  Maybe 
that was too
generous on my part.

He is giving me several licensed software programs that I need, but I 
need to
iron out these other issues. He seemed a bit too attached to receiving 
the
$200 right away.

Any help and info regarding these issues would me appreciated. Wow, 
this is
like buying a used car.

Jocelyn

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Re: Wallstreet, pram battery, and other battery question

2004-02-01 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 01/02/04 19:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, I test drove the Wall street PowerBook that is for sale for $200 today.
 The date and time is not holding, so I assume it needs a Pram battery.
 
 The guy told me laptop don't have a PRAM battery. Is that true? If it does
 have a PRAM battery, I need a webpage for PRAM batteries with prices.
 
 Also, it has a SCSI adapter since the SCSI port on the Wall street is
 nonstandard.  His adapter looks like a pin is missing. He said it came looking
 like 
 that. He did not have a SCSI peripheral to demo the adapter.
 
 When he did a demo on the internal zip drive, he just opened the ZIP Tools
 disc window and commented on the loud sound of the ZIP drive. It sounds like
 my 
 old ZIP, but I'm remembering that some ZIPs were recalled due to  chatter
 problem and for ruining zip discs.
 I don't know if he had a recalled zip drive.
 
 Then, when he unplugged the laptop from the wall, it died. He finally
 confessed that the battery was not holding a charge.
 So I need a website for  a battery and the price.
 
 I went to the webpage that a nice list person sent me today. It says that
 this model usually goes for $500- $700. So, I'm a little nervous about the low
 price. I asked him to meet me at a Mac place to have it checked over next
 week. 
 I have a gift certificate to that store from my User group. I told him I'd
 apply my $50 gift cert toward the inspection of the laptop.  Maybe that was
 too 
 generous on my part.
 
 He is giving me several licensed software programs that I need, but I need to
 iron out these other issues. He seemed a bit too attached to receiving the
 $200 right away.
 
 Any help and info regarding these issues would me appreciated. Wow, this is
 like buying a used car.
 
 Jocelyn

The Wallstreet does have a rechargeable PRAM battery. If the main battery is
dead, then it may explains why the PRAM is dead. I think you need a good
battery in order for the PRAM to recharge, but I'm not 100% sure. IIRC, the
SCSI pin is normal. There are 30 pins on the Wallstreet while on regular
cables, it's 29 pins. Again, this is off memory, so I could be wrong.

Wallstreet don't fetch $500-$700. Do a search on eBay for completed items.
They go from around $200 to $400 depending on the condition and the
accessories that come with it.

For a battery, there is laptops-battery.com. They have Wallstreet batteries
with higher capacity cells for $104:

http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/
products_id/5403

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Re: Is this an urban myth? iBook funk after one year of use.

2004-02-01 Thread tivo
 A Mac repair guy was telling me that iBooks develop a smell after a year due
 to the kind of plastic used. The heat makes the plastic stink.
 Anybody know if this is true?
 
 Jocelyn

I'm sniffing mine as we speak -- six months of age, no smell yet. What kind
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Re: Is this an urban myth? iBook funk after one year of use.

2004-02-01 Thread David M. Ensteness
No, its not true ... its silly though ;-)

David

On Feb 1, 2004, at 9:55 PM, tivo wrote:

A Mac repair guy was telling me that iBooks develop a smell after a 
year due
to the kind of plastic used. The heat makes the plastic stink.
Anybody know if this is true?

Jocelyn
I'm sniffing mine as we speak -- six months of age, no smell yet. What 
kind
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Re: Wallstreet fixed in the PDQ? What is the PDQ?

2004-02-01 Thread JocBr8
Clark, I'm wondering what you meant by  'keep turning' the computer.what 
does that look like? Could you describe a bit more?
Thanks,
Jocelyn

That problem does indeed happen on the PowerBook.  One can shield the 
drive with Mu metal to fix it.  This is a material that has a high 
magnetic permeability which keeps the magnetic fields from the drive 
confined.  I instead just keep turning the computer while tapping the 
shift key till it wakes up (which it always does).
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Re: Wallstreet, pram battery, and other battery question

2004-02-01 Thread JocBr8
Thanks all you replied to my inquiry. Your info and advice was very helpful.
Jocelyn

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Re: Is this an urban myth? iBook funk after one year of use.

2004-02-01 Thread JocBr8
Thanks to all who took a whiff of your iBook.  Glad to know that is really is 
an urban myth.  The guy sounded so confident when he told me that. He said he 
doesn't re-sell used iBooks due to the smelly funk. Maybe his nose is extra 
sensitive to smells?

Jocelyn

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Re: Is this an urban myth? iBook funk after one year of use.

2004-02-01 Thread tivo
My answer was tongue in cheek -- or perhaps up my nose. But I really needed
a giggle, even I had to provide it to myself! And truth be, one never nose.

 No, its not true ... its silly though ;-)
 
 David
 
 On Feb 1, 2004, at 9:55 PM, tivo wrote:
 
 A Mac repair guy was telling me that iBooks develop a smell after a
 year due
 to the kind of plastic used. The heat makes the plastic stink.
 Anybody know if this is true?
 
 Jocelyn
 
 I'm sniffing mine as we speak -- six months of age, no smell yet. What
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Re: Is this an urban myth? iBook funk after one year of use.

2004-02-01 Thread JocBr8
Yes, it is a laughable topic!! That's why I had to find out if it was true!!
Jocelyn

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