Micro$oft on the Mac
So many people are saying that Micro$oft's presence on the Mac is important for the survival of the Mac, but I am wondering... I am fully aware of how crap Office is on the Windows platform, which is probably why I put up with Orifice v.X on my Mac. I start the day by switching on my brand new PB 15 Alu, Mac OS X.3.3 and then start Orifice v.X. Immediately it crashes (the only app apart from Internet Exploder to crash on my Macs). Re-open Word and start a new document. I then go to save it and Word tells me I can only save the document with 31 characters or less. What is this, some ph*ckin' vengance for the years of 8+3 ?!? Piece of crap!!! Larry P.S. Where I work, everyone uses Word and therefore I cannot switch, before I get suggestions of OpenOffice, AppleWorks etc. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 08:07:00AM +0200, Larry le Mac wrote: : : So many people are saying that Micro$oft's presence on the Mac is : important for the survival of the Mac, but I am wondering... Unfortunately, this is the reality of our times. [...] : I then go to save it and Word tells me I can only save the document : with 31 characters or less. There are two ways to look at this mess: 1) M$ is being sensitive to the needs of old Mac OS (8-9) users. The problem is that the old Finder on old Mac OS only supports filenames up to 31 characters. Because Office force limits filename lengths to this old restriction, OS X users can still transport their Office documents to old Mac OS users without mangling the filenames. 2) M$ is too lazy to implemented 10-year-old API changes. Apple introduced HFS+ that supported 255-character filenames a while ago (like a decade ago), as well as new APIs to handle these longer filenames. I don't know if the old APIs even got Carbonized for OS X! Anyways, it's just another example of a giant monopoly not caring about taking advantage of all the features of OS X and making a better app. Choose your adventure and pick a path. -- Eugene Lee eugene at anime dot net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
OS X Apps vs. OS 9 ???
Hi y'all! On my old Pismo with OS 9.2.1 I could open a fairly complex .AI file (created from a .DWG CAD drawing) in Freehand 9 by asigning around 100MB to the app, the Mac had 384MB of RAM. But now on my PB 15 768MB RAM and OS X.3.3 and Frrehand MX the file cannot be opened due to not enough memory. What ?! Any ideas ? I cannot accept that this spec Mac cannot do the job that an old G3 with half the memory could... Larry _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
From: Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) M$ is being sensitive to the needs of old Mac OS (8-9) users. The problem is that the old Finder on old Mac OS only supports filenames up to 31 characters. Because Office force limits filename lengths to this old restriction, OS X users can still transport their Office documents to old Mac OS users without mangling the filenames. I'm kind of answering my own question here but why be sensitive to a dead platform when both the OS and the app is in the new environment, but then that is what M$ has done all these years so... Still ridiculous as one has full naming capability when handling the file. Larry _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X Apps vs. OS 9 ???
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 10:05:01AM +0200, Larry le Mac wrote: : : On my old Pismo with OS 9.2.1 I could open a fairly complex .AI file : (created from a .DWG CAD drawing) in Freehand 9 by asigning around : 100MB to the app, the Mac had 384MB of RAM. : : But now on my PB 15 768MB RAM and OS X.3.3 and Frrehand MX : the file cannot be opened due to not enough memory. It's a Freehand MX problem. http://www.creativemac.com/2003/06_jun/tutorials/freehandmxmem030611.htm -- Eugene Lee eugene at anime dot net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
OS 9 may be dead to you but there are still millions with older equipment not yet able to move to OSX. -Original Message- From: Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 30, 2004 1:14 AM To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Micro$oft on the Mac From: Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) M$ is being sensitive to the needs of old Mac OS (8-9) users. The problem is that the old Finder on old Mac OS only supports filenames up to 31 characters. Because Office force limits filename lengths to this old restriction, OS X users can still transport their Office documents to old Mac OS users without mangling the filenames. I'm kind of answering my own question here but why be sensitive to a dead platform when both the OS and the app is in the new environment, but then that is what M$ has done all these years so... Still ridiculous as one has full naming capability when handling the file. Larry _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Micro$oft on the Mac
Good morning, I find the spelling of Microsoft with a $ to be completely disingenuous..if you had been smart enough to buy, steal or create DOS you would be rich too. Do you believe Apple products are cheap, or Apple is not in the business to make money? I have been a Mac user since 1985 and have never worked in a Mac environment, but I have worked all of my IT career in the DOS and Windows world.all versions of Windows. Perhaps there is a reason that everyone in your office use MS products, 99% of the time they just work!!!most folks work is not in computers, they use computers to do their job and must have something that works. Have you considered that perhaps the reason your machine crashes is due to poor application installation, systems and applications not being up to date, poor maintenance, and or just bad user practices? Like it or not Microsoft is here and is a leader and in some cases the standard. If you don't like Microsoft products THEN DON'T USE THEM and stop bitching! No I own no MS or Apple stock and do not work for either excellent company. Sincerely, Jim Scolman. On Apr 29, 2004, at 11:07 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: So many people are saying that Micro$oft's presence on the Mac is important for the survival of the Mac, but I am wondering... I am fully aware of how crap Office is on the Windows platform, which is probably why I put up with Orifice v.X on my Mac. I start the day by switching on my brand new PB 15 Alu, Mac OS X.3.3 and then start Orifice v.X. Immediately it crashes (the only app apart from Internet Exploder to crash on my Macs). Re-open Word and start a new document. I then go to save it and Word tells me I can only save the document with 31 characters or less. What is this, some ph*ckin' vengance for the years of 8+3 ?!? Piece of crap!!! Larry P.S. Where I work, everyone uses Word and therefore I cannot switch, before I get suggestions of OpenOffice, AppleWorks etc. .. Jim Scolman Studio Quality Photography for Professional Artist and Craftspeople www.scolman.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
I've used Office on new machines and old machines and never had a single problem. We've got it loaded on 30 eMacs here at the school I work for and all of them run flawlessly. The PC's with office and win98 lock up all the time, but the Macs run fine. Office 2001 runs great too on classic. I would suggest reloading the application, perhaps deleting the preferences? Mike @ AAHS On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 12:07 AM, Larry le Mac wrote: So many people are saying that Micro$oft's presence on the Mac is important for the survival of the Mac, but I am wondering... I am fully aware of how crap Office is on the Windows platform, which is probably why I put up with Orifice v.X on my Mac. I start the day by switching on my brand new PB 15 Alu, Mac OS X.3.3 and then start Orifice v.X. Immediately it crashes (the only app apart from Internet Exploder to crash on my Macs). Re-open Word and start a new document. I then go to save it and Word tells me I can only save the document with 31 characters or less. What is this, some ph*ckin' vengance for the years of 8+3 ?!? Piece of crap!!! Larry P.S. Where I work, everyone uses Word and therefore I cannot switch, before I get suggestions of OpenOffice, AppleWorks etc. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
Right on, when was the last time Apple gave something similar to Microsoft's TS2 seminars. They teach you how to use their products and then give you a free copy. Not every TS2 is the same, but since I started attending 2 years ago I've gotten Windows 2000 SBS, Office XP, Windows XP pro, Windows Server 2003, and numerous other MS apps. All of these were full versions with no trial period. To echo this mac users point, both are great companies and I feel both are here to stay. I love my Mactop (PB G3) and wouldn't trade it for the world, but in defense of MS they offer so much support to the technical community that then passes on to the consumer. If anyone knows of free Mac seminars I would love to know! Seriously, that isn't sarcasm. Mike @ AAHS On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 07:24 AM, Jim Scolman wrote: Good morning, I find the spelling of Microsoft with a $ to be completely disingenuous..if you had been smart enough to buy, steal or create DOS you would be rich too. Do you believe Apple products are cheap, or Apple is not in the business to make money? I have been a Mac user since 1985 and have never worked in a Mac environment, but I have worked all of my IT career in the DOS and Windows world.all versions of Windows. Perhaps there is a reason that everyone in your office use MS products, 99% of the time they just work!!!most folks work is not in computers, they use computers to do their job and must have something that works. Have you considered that perhaps the reason your machine crashes is due to poor application installation, systems and applications not being up to date, poor maintenance, and or just bad user practices? Like it or not Microsoft is here and is a leader and in some cases the standard. If you don't like Microsoft products THEN DON'T USE THEM and stop bitching! No I own no MS or Apple stock and do not work for either excellent company. Sincerely, Jim Scolman. On Apr 29, 2004, at 11:07 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: So many people are saying that Micro$oft's presence on the Mac is important for the survival of the Mac, but I am wondering... I am fully aware of how crap Office is on the Windows platform, which is probably why I put up with Orifice v.X on my Mac. I start the day by switching on my brand new PB 15 Alu, Mac OS X.3.3 and then start Orifice v.X. Immediately it crashes (the only app apart from Internet Exploder to crash on my Macs). Re-open Word and start a new document. I then go to save it and Word tells me I can only save the document with 31 characters or less. What is this, some ph*ckin' vengance for the years of 8+3 ?!? Piece of crap!!! Larry P.S. Where I work, everyone uses Word and therefore I cannot switch, before I get suggestions of OpenOffice, AppleWorks etc. ... Jim Scolman Studio Quality Photography for Professional Artist and Craftspeople www.scolman.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
In a message dated 4/30/2004 5:00:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone knows of free Mac seminars I would love to know! Apple offers free seminars, both live and online (for those of us living in the middle of nowhere). Besides various seminars and workshops they hold in invarious cities, all the Apple stores also offer free seminars. The Apple store in Houston seems to have something going on all seven days of the week. Apple also offers a summer college for children. And sometimes they even show up at local user group meetings and offer workshops. Go to the Apple website and type in 'Free Seminars' in the Search box for more information. Paula Rutledge -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
Thanks, I will! Mike @ AAHS On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 08:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/30/2004 5:00:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone knows of free Mac seminars I would love to know! Apple offers free seminars, both live and online (for those of us living in the middle of nowhere). Besides various seminars and workshops they hold in invarious cities, all the Apple stores also offer free seminars. The Apple store in Houston seems to have something going on all seven days of the week. Apple also offers a summer college for children. And sometimes they even show up at local user group meetings and offer workshops. Go to the Apple website and type in 'Free Seminars' in the Search box for more information. Paula Rutledge -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
hey, I just checked out their website and must retot my previous argument. They do have some cool seminars, a mac OS X server seminar would be nice, but I can live with iMovie and iDVD guide. Plus multiple others. I live near Denver, so that is what I checked out. I plan on attending one of these in the next week. Thanks again! http://www.seminars.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/ASPRegistration.woa/ 15/wa/eventsByStateAndCity?city=Denverstate=COs=202 Mike @ AAHS On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 08:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/30/2004 5:00:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone knows of free Mac seminars I would love to know! Apple offers free seminars, both live and online (for those of us living in the middle of nowhere). Besides various seminars and workshops they hold in invarious cities, all the Apple stores also offer free seminars. The Apple store in Houston seems to have something going on all seven days of the week. Apple also offers a summer college for children. And sometimes they even show up at local user group meetings and offer workshops. Go to the Apple website and type in 'Free Seminars' in the Search box for more information. Paula Rutledge -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Microsoft on the Mac
I couldn't agree more with you. MS office for PC users works great at the office, so does Office 2001 for my OS 9 users. I have had some problems with Office X and OS X, nothing I couldn't handle. It usually comes down to fonts. Fonts and MS Office X, can really throw OS X for a loop. You might want to start there with your crashing problems. Cheers, -- Aaron Willems Network Administrator Lieberman Productions From: Jim Scolman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:24:15 -0700 To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Micro$oft on the Mac Good morning, I find the spelling of Microsoft with a $ to be completely disingenuous..if you had been smart enough to buy, steal or create DOS you would be rich too. Do you believe Apple products are cheap, or Apple is not in the business to make money? I have been a Mac user since 1985 and have never worked in a Mac environment, but I have worked all of my IT career in the DOS and Windows world.all versions of Windows. Perhaps there is a reason that everyone in your office use MS products, 99% of the time they just work!!!most folks work is not in computers, they use computers to do their job and must have something that works. Have you considered that perhaps the reason your machine crashes is due to poor application installation, systems and applications not being up to date, poor maintenance, and or just bad user practices? Like it or not Microsoft is here and is a leader and in some cases the standard. If you don't like Microsoft products THEN DON'T USE THEM and stop bitching! No I own no MS or Apple stock and do not work for either excellent company. Sincerely, Jim Scolman. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Carbon Copy Cloner? (Was Wallstreet Disk Problems)
On Apr 29, 2004, at 7:23 PM, Rad Craig wrote: Also, how can I make a copy that will allow this laptop to be network bootable if I might have problems at some point and need to boot off of that version? How does all that work? You cannot network boot that system; newer macs can be network booted, but only from OS X Server. Think about it...how are you going to network boot the drive if you have to mount an SMB share to do it? Network booting is very OS-specific. Your best bet for an emergency backup of that Wallstreet is to back it up to an external SCSI HDD. Then when needed , boot from the external drive and use CCC to kick over the contents. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Orifice X
on 4/30/04 6:37 AM, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Micro$oft on the Mac Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:07:00 +0200 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] So many people are saying that Micro$oft's presence on the Mac is important for the survival of the Mac, but I am wondering... I am fully aware of how crap Office is on the Windows platform, which is probably why I put up with Orifice v.X on my Mac. I start the day by switching on my brand new PB 15 Alu, Mac OS X.3.3 and then start Orifice v.X. Immediately it crashes (the only app apart from Internet Exploder to crash on my Macs). Re-open Word and start a new document. I then go to save it and Word tells me I can only save the document with 31 characters or less. What is this, some ph*ckin' vengance for the years of 8+3 ?!? Piece of crap!!! Larry Check for updates to the office suite. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X Apps vs. OS 9 ???
From: Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a Freehand MX problem. http://www.creativemac.com/2003/06_jun/tutorials/freehandmxmem030611.htm Seriously apreciated dude!!! Larry _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Jim Scolman wrote: Good morning, I find the spelling of Microsoft with a $ to be completely disingenuous..if you had been smart enough to buy, steal or create DOS you would be rich too. Do you believe Apple products are cheap, or Apple is not in the business to make money? I have been a Mac user since 1985 and have never worked in a Mac environment, but I have worked all of my IT career in the DOS and Windows world.all versions of Windows. Perhaps there is a reason that everyone in your office use MS products, 99% of the time they just work!!!most folks Not true. MS Office has simply become *so* predominant either at home or in the workplace that, from a cost-management/training point of view, it's the cheapest to implement - though also not true, as has been demonstrated before in this group when costs associated with areas sunch as maintenance and upgrade are factored in. work is not in computers, they use computers to do their job and must Exactly. Most likely very true of those folks who made the decision to go the M$ route to begin with. Ignorance = M$ Bliss. have something that works. Have you considered that perhaps the reason your machine crashes is due to poor application installation, systems and applications not being up to date, poor maintenance, and or just bad user practices? Like it or not Microsoft is here and is a leader and in some cases the standard. If you don't like Microsoft products THEN DON'T USE THEM and stop bitching! No I own no MS or Apple stock Love to, but currently unavoidable without a lot of extra effort (and education). Eg. RTF is a standard, but just try to use it on a daily basis. M$ Word seems to inflate the file size beyond reason, and the translation process seems unusually lengthy. and do not work for either excellent company. Sincerely, Jim Scolman. -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 06:24:15AM -0700, Jim Scolman wrote: : : Good morning, I find the spelling of Microsoft with a $ to be : completely disingenuous..if you had been smart enough to buy, steal : or create DOS you would be rich too. [...drama deleted...] Note your chosen subject line says Micro$oft on the Mac... -- Eugene Lee eugene at anime dot net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
From: Bruce Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS 9 may be dead to you but there are still millions with older equipment not yet able to move to OSX. I take your point and admit that OS 9 has/had many good points yet to be beaten in OS X, BUT I find it somewhat hard to believe that Micro$oft has done something like this with restricting Save As filenames to 31 characters in OS X for the sake of OS 9 users... Nah, smells more like (yet another) bug to me. Larry _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft (OT)
From: Jim Scolman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find the spelling of Microsoft with a $ to be completely disingenuous I write Micro$oft not to be funny but simply because I find their ambition to dominate every area of computing/multimedia that they operate in so tasteless. --- Do you believe Apple products are cheap, or Apple is not in the business to make money? No, but at least Apple (at least under the regime of Steve) always do things with a certain style with which I can identify. Micro$hit has no style! Even PC users agree to that one. And yes, sometimes it is about style, feeling and pride, not just money! --- Perhaps there is a reason that everyone in your office use MS products Yes, the Siemens 840D machine control system runs Windows. My co-workers hate Windoze as much (if not more) than I do, mainly because they're stuck with it. --- 99% of the time they just work!!! Yes well, I'm not evengoing to comment that one. --- Have you considered that perhaps the reason your machine crashes is due to poor application installation, systems and applications not being up to date, poor maintenance, and or just bad user practices? Funnily enough, NO! And I'll tell you why: It's a brand new PowerBook, fully updated via the vastly superior update function, and installing M$ Orifice isn't quite what I'd call difficult... 1. Drag copy folder to harddrive 2. Use Even I couldn't cock that up!!! Oh, and yes, I have updated Office v.X to X.1.5. --- If you don't like Microsoft products THEN DON'T USE THEM and stop bitching! Eh ?! I do believe I said in my post that I am forced to use M$ Orifice due to everyone else in the company, and complaining about Micro$oft's products/conduct/lack of style etc. will always be part of being a true Mac fan... :o) Larry _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
From: Mike Kauspedas [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've used Office on new machines and old machines and never had a single problem. snip Office 2001 runs great too on classic. Yes, Office 98 2001 are pretty decent actually, which is probably why I've reacted at Office v.X's poor behaviour. --- I would suggest reloading the application, perhaps deleting the preferences? Mmm, yes, I had come to that conclusion... I will add that it has happened on my own Mac MDD with X.3.3 also... Larry _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
On 30/04/04 15:12, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS 9 may be dead to you but there are still millions with older equipment not yet able to move to OSX. I take your point and admit that OS 9 has/had many good points yet to be beaten in OS X, BUT I find it somewhat hard to believe that Micro$oft has done something like this with restricting Save As filenames to 31 characters in OS X for the sake of OS 9 users... Nah, smells more like (yet another) bug to me. They just used the older Carbon API to do a quick, straight port without bothering using the new calls to support more than 31 characters... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft (OT)
From: Mike Kauspedas [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip They teach you how to use their products and then give you a free copy. Yes, it's easier to like their products if yu get them for free... I've always felt that anything Micro$oft should be freeware. Not much cause for complaints then... Larry _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$lime vs. Apple (OT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M$ designs schemes around making money FIRST. Which is why they are so successful at making money. I would have a picture of Bill Gates on my wall for the same reason Bill Gates has a picture of Henry Ford on his, you do know he does ? (aimed at Jim Scolman). Well' I would if he wasn't so damn ugly... --- Apple designs for elegance first. Which is why they've never been consistently successful. --- Except with the guts of the G3 Snow iBooks. And MANY more, 5200, 6200, 630 etc. etc. Trying to do it purely for profit and no style, in Apple's case does not work! --- IMO Anyone who doesn't get the $ in Micro$oft cannot feel that they are truly an Macintosh person. I had a discussion with Steve Wozniak when I faced the decision whether to go it alone with a Mac in a PC only company and he said to me that using a Mac is a bit like religion, to do what you truly believe in you sometimes have to make sacrifices. He couldn't be more right! Larry _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$lime vs. Apple
Oh common, what company isn't trying to make a $buck$. Hell what man for that matter? MS, Apple, Coke, Haliburton, they're all the same, they formed a company around making people rich. And if I were to start a company it would be to make $$. Its that simple. Mike On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 12:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/30/04 6:37 AM, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Micro$oft on the Mac Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:24:15 -0700 Good morning, I find the spelling of Microsoft with a $ to be completely disingenuous..if you had been smart enough to buy, steal or create DOS you would be rich too. Do you believe Apple products are cheap, or Apple is not in the business to make money? I have been a Mac user since 1985 and have never worked in a Mac environment, but I have worked all of my IT career in the DOS and Windows world.all versions of Windows. Perhaps there is a reason that everyone in your office use MS products, 99% of the time they just work!!!most folks work is not in computers, they use computers to do their job and must have something that works. Have you considered that perhaps the reason your machine crashes is due to poor application installation, systems and applications not being up to date, poor maintenance, and or just bad user practices? Like it or not Microsoft is here and is a leader and in some cases the standard. If you don't like Microsoft products THEN DON'T USE THEM and stop bitching! No I own no MS or Apple stock and do not work for either excellent company. Sincerely, Jim Scolman. Wrong. And I find the fact that you are wrong disingenous. How dare you be wrong. Stop being wrong. M$ designs schemes around making money FIRST. I know plenty of $ofties. Confirmed down the line. Not bad in and of itself, but easily a reason many like to use the $ sign instead of s. Besides, there is no S in Apple. We could write $napple, but wait...wrong company. $apple? No... Apple designs for elegance first. Except with the guts of the G3 Snow iBooks. There they designed with $ in mind. Call them $ighBooks. And before you blast me again, iBook fans, just search the Apple boards. Many many complaints just keep on piling up. Sincerely, The Last Word. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$lime vs. Apple
In a message dated 4/30/2004 4:08:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MS, Apple, Coke, Haliburton, they're all the same, they formed a company around making people rich. And if I were to start a company it would be to make $$. Its that simple. ...nothing wrong w/ making money, but it is HOW you make it. When you scheme and practice acts like Enron, Haliburton, etc., have committed, then you rightfully draw the scorn of those of us who are decent, either by practice or circumstance! :-D Regarding M$? I look at them v. us like driving a Miata v. a Karmann-Ghia convertible. Sure, the Miata may be easier to get parts for, more enviromentally friendly, modern, etc.; but if you want to get where you're going in STYLE Craig W. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Micro$soft, Microslime, Microsoft, etc.
Folks, Can you drop the off-topics about whether Microsoft is in business to make money or not or is better or worst than Apple? As long as we talk about their products and how to use them on G3-G4-based PowerBooks, that's fine, but other topics are off-limit. So, please, drop it. Thanks! -Laurent. List nanny, G-Books list. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$lime vs. Apple
Regarding M$? I look at them v. us like driving a Miata v. a Karmann-Ghia convertible. Sure, the Miata may be easier to get parts for, more enviromentally friendly, modern, etc.; but if you want to get where you're going in STYLE Craig W. Its your choice how to spend your money also. I don't see how Microsoft has done anything evil? or Haliburton for that matter, just examples. No one is dead for using a Mac and Microsoft hasn't bombed Apple's HQ. Lets be realistic... Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft on the Mac
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] They just used the older Carbon API to do a quick, straight port without bothering using the new calls to support more than 31 characters... I know the MBU isn't as big as the rest of Micro$oft, but I still think it sucks. Really cheap. Larry _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$lime vs. Apple (OT)
From: Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Apple designs for elegance first. : Which is why they've never been consistently successful. But even this response worries me, because it is directly associates success with profit. That means that without profit, there is no such thing as success. What a sad world we live in... You needn't be that worried as I admit I didn't formulate that quite the way I should, I should have said financially successful. Of course Apple is and has been successful, very much so. Why else would there be such a loyal following ?! Larry _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$lime vs. Apple (OT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if you want to get where you're going in STYLE This is exactly why so many, especially here i Sweden ride Harleys instead of rice burners. It's not so much about image as it is self respect. Also, the Think Different ad campaign is/was successful 'cause it rings true with most Mac people (as opposed to users). Larry _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Micro$oft FINAL MAIL (from me)
I take Laurent's point and will not post further mails on the subject (until net it's brought up ;o) but if anyone is interested, mail me off-line and I will send you a small (less than 1MB) movie clip of an interview with Steve Jobs that in my opinion sums up this whole argument. Why Micro$oft in fact IS Micro$oft. Larry _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Tracpad
Hi guys, I have to eat crow. I thought that I had saved the address that some one gave for a small program to improve the PB trackpad functions, but obviously I didn't. Can you send it to me? Thanks Hector I. Macedo Lord of the Flies Dallas, TX 75248 Piscaro Itaque dicet mendacium -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Audio Feedback on Pismo
I've noticed that anytime an application requires/enables audio input using the built-in mic speakers on my Pismo, it triggers a screeching feeback. I have to mute the speakers to use the built-in mic, then mute the mic and turn on speaker output for playback. Kind of a bummer. It even happened once on restart after a system crash. Really awful sound. Checked the archives but didn't find any help there. Pismo 500, 384MB RAM, OS X 10.3 Thanks, Charles -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Audio Feedback on Pismo
on 30/04/04 20:53, Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that anytime an application requires/enables audio input using the built-in mic speakers on my Pismo, it triggers a screeching feeback. I have to mute the speakers to use the built-in mic, then mute the mic and turn on speaker output for playback. Kind of a bummer. It even happened once on restart after a system crash. Really awful sound. You could use headphones? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CLM /C-L-M/: [Sun: `Career Limiting Move'] 1. n. An action endangering one's future prospects of getting plum projects and raises, and possibly one's job: His Halloween costume was a parody of his manager. He won the prize for `best CLM'. 2. adj. Denotes extreme severity of a bug, discovered by a customer and obviously missed earlier because of poor testing: That's a CLM bug! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Tracpad
On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 05:29 PM, Hector I Macedo wrote: Hi guys, I have to eat crow. I thought that I had saved the address that some one gave for a small program to improve the PB trackpad functions, but obviously I didn't. Can you send it to me? Thanks Hector I. Macedo Lord of the Flies Dallas, TX 75248 Piscaro Itaque dicet mendacium -- The software is called sidetrack, here is the address: http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/ 700MHz iBook G3 640MB Ram OS 10.2.8 Laugha while you can monkeyboy. Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
