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[illovox]

Need 600mhz + G3 or +.  Unless you use hack.


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AppleWorks putting the SQUEEZE on

[RStockdell]

I've just tuned in, but I'm not a newbie.  I've been on the A2-list, several 
Mac-lists, the G-list, lem-swap, and now G-Books.  I've started another thread 
- "sleeping sickness' - but this is a different problem that is showing up on 
BOTH IBooks.

I have an iBook/600/2001 (snow, dual USB), and a later iBook/700/2001 (snow, 
dual USB).

When I build documents on any of my other Macs (6500, 8600's, 5300 laptop, 
etc.), I can shuffle them about freely with no loss of formatting nor distortion 
of any kind.  All fonts are equally represented in all of them.  The 
AppleWorks version is identical.  All are using OS 9.2.2.

I cannot do this with the iBooks.  Any document built on any other Mac and 
transported to an iBook (I use a ZIP100 USB, or an Imation 120 MB SuperDisk USB 
- with 1.44 MB floppies) will be improperly formatted when displayed.  All 
fonts are equally represented in both of them, same as the desktop Macs.  The 
AppleWorks version is identical.  And it doesn't seem to matter whether I boot to 
OS 9.2.2 or OS 10.1.  And the later iBook has had a clean install of the 
original boot software, before loading the matching fonts, so no joy there.  It 
comes out labeled correctly, with all the fonts listed as used correctly, etc., 
but will linespace smaller than stated (about 5/6), and the lines will come 
out about 4 letters shorter in apparent length.

Any takers on this thread ?

Richard in deep-south Texas

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Re: comparing wallstreet cpu upgrades

[David]

Thanks Mikael for the info... but I see the PowerLogix G3 upgrade still
advertised on the web, what does that mean?

And any opinions about other G3 upgrades for the Wallstreet?

Thanks!
David

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Mikael Byström wrote:

> David, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>
> >I'm about to upgrade my wallstreet 250 Mhz to the G3 500 Mhz. There are a
> >few upgrades out there: Powerlogix, Sonnet, and another one out there,
> >can't remember the name, something like Allegra...
>
> The Powerlogix G3 is long gone as a new product as is the Powerlogix G4
> since a few weeks ( I was just going to order it). But I take it you can
> make do with a 2nd hand then?
>
> This place doesn't seem to be one good source as I haven't seen any
> fitting offers yet.
>
> If you do look for 2nd hand Powerlogix G3, make sure you get one that
> have been flashed for your videocard, either Rage II+ or Rage LT Pro, or
> you won't have anything but a black display. I know of no way to reflash
> the card.
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Re: Fake email

[Harry D . Corsover]

On May 3, 2004, at 9:02 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote:
Take one days junk and send all of it to you ISP support address, with 
a letter from you saying I get this everyday, please stop it.  If this 
little mac mail can filter 50 or 200 and miss one a day, certainly the 
ISP's can do a better job, if no complaints, the ISP will ignore it. 
Mine said for a dollar a month we will do a better job I sent them 
a new load of junk the next day.
I'm unwilling to use ISP-level filtering. Even one missed legitimate 
email is too much. With Mail's filters, I can catch the false positives 
right away, as I scan new mail (which I do many times a day). With 
EarthLink's system ("Spaminator?") I'd have to go to the web site and 
sift through a much larger list (unless I checked it 8 or 10 times a 
day).

As far as "missing" one per day, that depends on how you define it. It 
actually misses more than that (i.e., allows junk through every now and 
then). More important to me are the false positives (legit mail marked 
as junk).

I haven't seen or heard of any ISP-level spam filter that doesn't catch 
some legit mail. And since I do a lot of business via email, I don't 
even want to put up with a delay of hours, let along days. I'm sure it 
works for many people, though.

Regards,
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sleeping sickness

[RStockdell]

I've just tuned in, but I'm not a newbie.  I've been on the A2-list, several 
Mac-lists, the G-list, lem-swap, and now G-Books.

I am a teacher.  Taught computer lit (among many things).  Rebuild computers 
as a hobby, and have been puttering with about 70 Macs over the last couple 
years.  I now have an iBook/600/2001 (snow, dual USB), and a later 
iBook/700/2001 (snow, dual USB).

The first was bought with a monitor that lit, but had been stepped on.  I 
bought the LCD (without the frame, which I now know was foolhardy !) and 
successfully replaced the screen.  It functions flawlessly, except for a problem in 
AppleWorks to be brought up separately.  I mention this one to show that I've 
been down and dirty with the guts of an ibook laid out for a week, as preface to 
the next paragraph.

The second was bought (by a friend) with known power problems, and I helped 
them get the PRAM reset and the battery charged.  It has one annoying habit.  
When given a bump - the mildest form of shock - on the right hinge, it instan
tly goes to sleep.  This can happen with as little a movement as trying to 
change the angle of the screen, or attempting to turn the laptop to a different 
position.  Nothing happens if the shock is on the left hinge.  This was so 
annoying that they eventually sold it off to me at a loss to get rid of it, since it 
couldn't perform as a "lap"-top.

Anyone have experience with either the wiring to/from the LCD/mobo, or the 
power system - which I believe is under the power switch ?

Richard in deep-south Texas

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Re: Fake email

[Geoffrey Loeffler]

On May 3, 2004, at 6:40 PM, Harry D. Corsover wrote:
On May 3, 2004, at 8:29 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote:
Running Mail 3.3 it's real good about filtering these out, after 
about 3 days of training I just let it go, I may have 50 to 60  junk 
e-mails a day, but there junk and rarely does it mess up and put 
something good in the junk box and if it does, it's very easy to 
spot.
I seem to get at least one legit email a day in my Junk folder. Most 
of the time I take a minute to update my Rules so the same sender's 
stuff doesn't wind up there. But I have to carefully scan that Junk 
folder before using the handy Cmd-Opt-J shortcut to permanently delete 
all mail in that folder. I seem to get 200 or more junk emails a day 
:-(.

Regards,
Harry Corsover
Take one days junk and send all of it to you ISP support address, with 
a letter from you saying I get this everyday, please stop it.  If this 
little mac mail can filter 50 or 200 and miss one a day, certainly the 
ISP's can do a better job, if no complaints, the ISP will ignore it. 
Mine said for a dollar a month we will do a better job I sent them 
a new load of junk the next day.
Geoff

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Re: Childish + Lemons = LEMONADE

[illovox]

on 5/3/04 1:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>>> iBook 600!  Hahahahahah!
>>> 
>>> But aside from the fact that you are futzing with a lemon--(I HATE my 600
>>> iBook! HATEHATEHATEHATE!  AND I hate them ALLL!  BWAHAHAHAHA!)
>> 
>> Is anyone else getting tired of these childish rants. I suggest this be
>> ended, I look forward to reading intelligent suggestions for problem solving
>> in this list.
>> 
>> Not rants that sound like a 4 year is having a temper tantrum.
>> 
>> Grow up already.

Oh, wait, let's play a game:  Button, button, who's got the button?

Better yet, Wayne, why don't you take the time to hunt for parts for the 4
books I've been repairing lately, and pay for the repairs...and if you don't
want to pay me, you can pay Apple the $650 they want to replace the hinge
cables.

I'm performing a public service.  This is G-Books and these G3 'books should
be purchased eyes open.  You don't like it, skip the message.  Insult me
again and we shall...
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Re: Fake email

[Thomas Ethen]

That won't help either, as I have a e-mail address that I have never sent an
e-mail from and I still get tons of spam each day. Go figure!

Tom
> 
> Actually, that won't get rid of these annoyances unless you never use
> the new email address or tell anyone about it (so it never winds up in
> the address book of someone on Windows using Outlook or Outlook
> Express).


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Re: Childish + Lemons = LEMONADE

[Laurent Daudelin]

Ok, Wayne's message was maybe a little bit over the top.

Now, if you want to continue debating whether the iBooks are good or bad,
please do so privately. Otherwise, I'll have to ban people who don't comply.
This is a list to discuss the use of Motorola/IBM G-based processor laptops
from Apple, not the forum to rate those laptops. So, please, post privately
if you need to continue this thread but stop posting to the list.

Thank you!

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Re: Fake email

[Harry D . Corsover]

Tom,
I think that was just (bad) luck of the draw. Spammers mass mail out to 
common first names at any domain name they get their hands on. So, if 
that email address is something like "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" they just stumbled upon it. For this reason, many 
people use non-sequential numbers after a name in email addresses. 
Another way they grab email addresses is by searching web sites. So, if 
you have a web site that lists your email address, they can get it.

You'll notice that I haven't taken any of these measures, but that's 
partially because I've had this email address for many years, and it's 
"out there" among friends, family, business associates and colleagues.

Regards,
Harry Corsover
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That won't help either, as I have a e-mail address that I have never 
sent an
e-mail from and I still get tons of spam each day. Go figure!

Tom
Actually, that won't get rid of these annoyances unless you never use
the new email address or tell anyone about it (so it never winds up in
the address book of someone on Windows using Outlook or Outlook
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iSight with iBook...

[Michael Shaw]

Kids:
I was recently given an iSight camera to connect to my 1 GHz G4 iBook.
Its hard to tell how well it works because I don't know anyone else who 
has the ability to do video chat.

I don't have a .Mac account but I do have AIM installed.
Is anyone else using one of these ?
M
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Re: Fake email

[peter webster]

I've been getting these forever--or so it seems--I toss them. Spam 
like that deserves the Al-Anon approach: I didn't cause it and I 
can't cure it.


That won't help either, as I have a e-mail address that I have never sent an
e-mail from and I still get tons of spam each day. Go figure!
Tom
 Actually, that won't get rid of these annoyances unless you never use
 the new email address or tell anyone about it (so it never winds up in
 the address book of someone on Windows using Outlook or Outlook
 Express).

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Re: iSight with iBook...

[Andrew]

I've been considering an iSight as well, but need to know how to video
conference with people using Windows.  Most of my family is in South Korea,
and they have Windows computers.  We used to video chat on MSN Messenger
every week, but to my dismay I've found that MSN for Mac won't video
conference, so what are the options for cross-platform video conference?

Andrew

PS:  Save the evangelist "tell them to get a Mac" bull, I refuse to spend
other people's money for them.

-Original Message-
From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Shaw
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:44 PM
To: G-Books
Subject: iSight with iBook...

Kids:

I was recently given an iSight camera to connect to my 1 GHz G4 iBook.

Its hard to tell how well it works because I don't know anyone else who
has the ability to do video chat.

I don't have a .Mac account but I do have AIM installed.

Is anyone else using one of these ?

M

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Re: iSight with iBook...

[Jason R]

IchatAV is compatible with windows AIM for vid chat, and you can also 
use iSight with Yahoo
On May 3, 2004, at 17:09, Andrew wrote:

I've been considering an iSight as well, but need to know how to video
conference with people using Windows.  Most of my family is in South 
Korea,
and they have Windows computers.  We used to video chat on MSN 
Messenger
every week, but to my dismay I've found that MSN for Mac won't video
conference, so what are the options for cross-platform video 
conference?

Andrew
PS:  Save the evangelist "tell them to get a Mac" bull, I refuse to 
spend
other people's money for them.

-Original Message-
From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael 
Shaw
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:44 PM
To: G-Books
Subject: iSight with iBook...

Kids:
I was recently given an iSight camera to connect to my 1 GHz G4 iBook.
Its hard to tell how well it works because I don't know anyone else who
has the ability to do video chat.
I don't have a .Mac account but I do have AIM installed.
Is anyone else using one of these ?
M
michaelpfcshaw on AIM/iChat

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Re: iSight with iBook...

[Alan C . Magnus]

On May 3, 2004, at 6:43 pm, Michael Shaw wrote:
Kids:
I was recently given an iSight camera to connect to my 1 GHz G4 iBook.
Its hard to tell how well it works because I don't know anyone else 
who has the ability to do video chat.

I don't have a .Mac account but I do have AIM installed.
Is anyone else using one of these ?
M
michaelpfcshaw on AIM/iChat

Mike,
I am
alan
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Re: iSight with iBook...

[Alan C . Magnus]

On May 3, 2004, at 7:09 pm, Andrew wrote:
I've been considering an iSight as well, but need to know how to video
conference with people using Windows.  Most of my family is in South 
Korea,
and they have Windows computers.  We used to video chat on MSN 
Messenger
every week, but to my dismay I've found that MSN for Mac won't video
conference, so what are the options for cross-platform video 
conference?

Andrew
PS:  Save the evangelist "tell them to get a Mac" bull, I refuse to 
spend
other people's money for them.

Andrew, The new AIM 5.5 works with iChat for video and audio. It 
sometimes is a bit difficult to get going, but it works.

Alan
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Re: iSight with iBook...

[Andrew]

What is required to make it work?  Just the iSight on the Mac and a standard
webcam on AOL IM for Windows?  Will a 400MHz G4 (Sawtooth) running Panther
be fast enough, or will I need to boost the processor a bit?

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason R
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 5:20 PM
To: G-Books
Subject: Re: iSight with iBook...

IchatAV is compatible with windows AIM for vid chat, and you can also
use iSight with Yahoo
On May 3, 2004, at 17:09, Andrew wrote:

> I've been considering an iSight as well, but need to know how to video
> conference with people using Windows.  Most of my family is in South
> Korea,
> and they have Windows computers.  We used to video chat on MSN
> Messenger
> every week, but to my dismay I've found that MSN for Mac won't video
> conference, so what are the options for cross-platform video
> conference?
>
> Andrew
>
> PS:  Save the evangelist "tell them to get a Mac" bull, I refuse to
> spend
> other people's money for them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
> Shaw
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:44 PM
> To: G-Books
> Subject: iSight with iBook...
>
> Kids:
>
> I was recently given an iSight camera to connect to my 1 GHz G4 iBook.
>
> Its hard to tell how well it works because I don't know anyone else who
> has the ability to do video chat.
>
> I don't have a .Mac account but I do have AIM installed.
>
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Re: Fake email

[Geoffrey Loeffler]

I get fake messages from eBay, if I send it to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems they slow down for awhile, I open the whole header for them, 
they always write you back and say it was a fake, ya I knew that. Ebay 
wrote back a few times telling me that a couple messages contained a 
Trojan Horse and if I had clicked one of the links I would have 
destroyed ebay and the the whole internet, except for for my Mac that 
is...
I also send the spam to my ISP and say here you go. I think the more 
complaints the more they have to try and stop this.

Running Mail 3.3 it's real good about filtering these out, after about 
3 days of training I just let it go, I may have 50 to 60  junk e-mails 
a day, but there junk and rarely does it mess up and put something good 
in the junk box and if it does, it's very easy to spot.
Geoff

On May 3, 2004, at 9:15 AM, John McClernan wrote:
Emery is right. It's called "spoofing" and I am a victim also. I just 
keep
deleting them. The only way you can really get rid of it is to change 
your
e-mail address - an option I'm not willing to exercise at present. My 
e-mail
is tied to my business.
My 2¢.
John

On 5/2/04 9:11 AM, "Emery Stora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Kurt Appling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi all,  I am occasionaly recieveing notices of mail unable to be
delivered to such?such address,  but I havent mailed such a thing to
anyone...

This isn't spam, but it is due to a virus on someone's computer.
There are several viruses out there that infect PC computers.  These
viruses reside on a person's computer and look for email addresses
that are on that computer.  They then send out fake messages to those
email addresses using other email addresses that they find on that
computer as the apparent sender.  They also include an attachment
that, if opened, will infect the receiving party's computer.

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Re: Fake email

[Harry D . Corsover]

On May 3, 2004, at 8:29 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler wrote:
Running Mail 3.3 it's real good about filtering these out, after about 
3 days of training I just let it go, I may have 50 to 60  junk e-mails 
a day, but there junk and rarely does it mess up and put something 
good in the junk box and if it does, it's very easy to spot.
I seem to get at least one legit email a day in my Junk folder. Most of 
the time I take a minute to update my Rules so the same sender's stuff 
doesn't wind up there. But I have to carefully scan that Junk folder 
before using the handy Cmd-Opt-J shortcut to permanently delete all 
mail in that folder. I seem to get 200 or more junk emails a day :-(.

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Childish + Lemons = LEMONADE

[illovox]

> From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> iBook 600!  Hahahahahah!
>> 
>> But aside from the fact that you are futzing with a lemon--(I HATE my 600
>> iBook! HATEHATEHATEHATE!  AND I hate them ALLL!  BWAHAHAHAHA!)
> 
> Is anyone else getting tired of these childish rants. I suggest this be
> ended, I look forward to reading intelligent suggestions for problem solving
> in this list.
> 
> Not rants that sound like a 4 year is having a temper tantrum.
> 
> Grow up already.

For you, I can only say iBook G3 laptops are all wonderful, brilliantly
designed machines.  Simply wonderful.

R
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My favorite fetid lifeform:  The Humorless, iBook lovin', putz.  Rare and
pestulant, best heavily garnished with blind adulation and cowering fear.
Similar to the Puff Breasted Insult Bully--tenderize with friends from the
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Re: Tracpad

[Susan Platter]

I'm glad you found it as useful as I did, Bruce! :)
Susan
Swindon, Wiltshire
On 3 May, 2004, at 04:50, G-Books wrote:
Message-ID: 
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 04:25:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bruce Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tracpad

Susan,
Thanks for posting this very handy tip!
Bruce
Los Angeles, CA
currently in East Anglia.
-Original Message-
From: Susan Platter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: May 2, 2004 4:10 AM
To: G-Books <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tracpad
Oh, I do like Panther! To save that URL to desktop, I just had to grab
it, press F11, dump  the URL on my desktop, then press F11 again to
return to the message. That is a really good facility! :)
Susan
Swindon, Wiltshire
United Kingdom

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Re: Fake email

[Harry D . Corsover]

On May 3, 2004, at 11:15 AM, John McClernan wrote:
Emery is right. It's called "spoofing" and I am a victim also. I just 
keep
deleting them. The only way you can really get rid of it is to change 
your
e-mail address - an option I'm not willing to exercise at present. My 
e-mail
is tied to my business.
My 2¢.
John
Actually, that won't get rid of these annoyances unless you never use 
the new email address or tell anyone about it (so it never winds up in 
the address book of someone on Windows using Outlook or Outlook 
Express).

So, AFAIK, there's no practical option to deleting them. You can try to 
train your Junk filter in Mail, and that will catch some of them, but 
you'll still wind up spending a certain amount of your time dealing 
with this stuff.

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Re: Fake email

[John McClernan]

Emery is right. It's called "spoofing" and I am a victim also. I just keep
deleting them. The only way you can really get rid of it is to change your
e-mail address - an option I'm not willing to exercise at present. My e-mail
is tied to my business.
My 2¢.
John

On 5/2/04 9:11 AM, "Emery Stora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: Kurt Appling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> hi all,  I am occasionaly recieveing notices of mail unable to be
>> delivered to such?such address,  but I havent mailed such a thing to
>> anyone...
 
> This isn't spam, but it is due to a virus on someone's computer.
> There are several viruses out there that infect PC computers.  These
> viruses reside on a person's computer and look for email addresses
> that are on that computer.  They then send out fake messages to those
> email addresses using other email addresses that they find on that
> computer as the apparent sender.  They also include an attachment
> that, if opened, will infect the receiving party's computer.


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Re: Help with Wallstreet PMU

[Sam Strong]

Hi All -

For those who might be interested here's an update on the Wallstreet
problems that I was having.  After much taking apart and investigating I am
pretty certain that the problem is the PMU.  It display's the same symptoms
with or without the processor card in so I don't think that it's even
getting to that point.  So I'll be getting a PMU (look for my SWAP list post
in a few moments) and trying that next.  Thanks to all who responded both on
and off list for their help and suggestions.

Original message partly follows:

>Specifically the symptoms of the Wallstreet are:  Screen stays black, no
>battery charge indication on the little lights on the side, no HD noise, no
>chime, etc. Pressing the reset sequence written on the back results in the
>PB alternating between the fan running at full speed with the green power
>light on and, after pressing, the powerbook sitting there appearing totally
>dead.  Pressing the power button alone has not effect.  I have removed the
>battery and held down the reset sequence for a couple of minutes with no
>effect other than that mentioned above.  Any other ideas appreciated.

Sam Strong
Henley Middle School


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Re: Micro$oft FINAL MAIL (from me)

[Mike Kauspedas]

Sorry Sorry Sorry, I truly meant to send that off list!
Mike
On Monday, May 3, 2004, at 07:59 AM, Mike Kauspedas wrote:
I wouldn't mind that file if you'd like to send it. Thanks,
Mike
On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 04:24 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:
I take Laurent's point and will not post further mails on the subject
(until net it's brought up ;o)
but if anyone is interested, mail me off-line and I will send you a
small (less than 1MB) movie clip of an interview with Steve Jobs
that in my opinion sums up this whole argument.
Why Micro$oft in fact IS Micro$oft.
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Re: Micro$oft FINAL MAIL (from me)

[Mike Kauspedas]

I wouldn't mind that file if you'd like to send it. Thanks,
Mike
On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 04:24 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:
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(until net it's brought up ;o)
but if anyone is interested, mail me off-line and I will send you a
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Re: sync newton to OS 9.1 desktop

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 03/05/04 09:01, Melvin Watts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Excuse me, I know that it would be appropriate to forward this question
> to the newt list, but I've been having a difficult time trying to sign
> up with the list portal. . so again I apologize.
> 
> I have a newton 2100 that I want to sync with my pb1400  running OS
> 9.1. Can any one tell me which connection utility would be best, and
> how to set everything up?

Synchronizing has always been problematic. The only application that runs on
OS 9 that is still available is "Newton Connection Utilities" from Apple.
You can get a copy from . For a much more lively
discussion about the Newton, please join the NewtonTalk mailing list at
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GIGO /gi:'goh/ [acronym]: 1. `Garbage In, Garbage Out' -- usually said in
response to lusers who complain that a program didn't "do the right thing"
when given imperfect input or otherwise mistreated in some way. Also
commonly used to describe failures in human decision making due to faulty,
incomplete, or imprecise data. 2. `Garbage In, Gospel Out': this more recent
expansion is a sardonic comment on the tendency human beings have to put
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sync newton to OS 9.1 desktop

[Melvin Watts]

Excuse me, I know that it would be appropriate to forward this question 
to the newt list, but I've been having a difficult time trying to sign 
up with the list portal. . so again I apologize.

I have a newton 2100 that I want to sync with my pb1400  running OS 
9.1. Can any one tell me which connection utility would be best, and 
how to set everything up?

TIA
-MW .
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Re: Micro$lime vs. Apple

[Michael Dolberry]

According to my information, the Miata WAS designed
after the Spider, just as Windows WAS designed after
the Mac experience. (On topic, enough?)

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Subject: Re: Micro$lime vs. Apple
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 11:55:20 -0700
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Obviously you've never driven either.  The Miata is a
blast to drive, 
pure
and simple, while a Karmann-Ghia is slow, handles
poorly and makes all 
the
wrong noises.  I believe a better comparison would be
an Alfa Romeo 
Spider,
which in addition to being fun to drive, is actually
good-looking as 
well,
especially the 1979 and earlier without the black
plastic trunk cap.

Oh, to stay on-topic, my 12" PowerBook would fit
nicely in the small 
area
behind the seats of either a Miata or an Alfa spider,
though I think it
would be happier in a shiney new Z4 than either.




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Re: HD iBook Wierdness

[Wayne]

> iBook 600!  Hahahahahah!
> 
> But aside from the fact that you are futzing with a lemon--(I HATE my 600
> iBook! HATEHATEHATEHATE!  AND I hate them ALLL!  BWAHAHAHAHA!)

Is anyone else getting tired of these childish rants. I suggest this be
ended, I look forward to reading intelligent suggestions for problem solving
in this list.

Not rants that sound like a 4 year is having a temper tantrum.

Grow up already.


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Clean Screens

[illovox]

> on 5/2/04 8:50 PM, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
>> On May 2, 2004, at 5:35 PM, RK Rossi wrote:
>> 
>>> Very simple question:
>>> 
>>> How do I clean the LCD screen?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
> 
> I got some stuff at the computer store that pulls out the top like baby
> wipes.  Works great for me.  What I use is called 'Nice 'n Clean.'
> 
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HD iBook Wierdness

[illovox]

on 5/2/04 8:50 PM, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> To reply to a couple of notes here: I am talking about a 600mhz iBook,
> so it can boot into OS9. In fact I have tried that, where I have seen
> the monitor-spanning phenomenon. I tried booting from a couple of OS9
> CD's and ran Drive Setup to erase the HD first, but still get the
> message I can't run the installer on this computer. I then re-installed
> Panther, making sure to install OS9 drivers. I can, however, update the
> driver on the disk from an OS9 CD.

iBook 600!  Hahahahahah!

But aside from the fact that you are futzing with a lemon--(I HATE my 600
iBook! HATEHATEHATEHATE!  AND I hate them ALLL!  BWAHAHAHAHA!)--are you
installing from a generic install CD or a burn or model specific cd?  Latter
two might be problematic.  Also, has your unit been in for Apple service?
Some of the repairs they have done on these lemons involves ripping out--er,
carefully removing the old MB completely and slapping in--er, replacing them
with a newer one with new ROMS which DO NOT boot 9.

iBooks!  The world's greatest laptop!

Okay, you there, I will say this:  Tough case, yes indeed.  My buddy has
virtually drop-kicked his halfway to Afganistan and aside from the
malfunctions that inspired him to chuck the thing into a wall, still
functions great, er, aside from the intermittant video, failed modem, etc
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