Re: Internet problems in 10.4.2

[Dyna]

	I'm having the same problems in the last week or so with 
Safari on a Nac Mini.



 > The page in Safari starts to load, but then does nothing - just stops


Clear caches.
Try a diff browser.
Try a diff user account.


Personally, I don't use Safari any more--found too many times it
wouldn't work right for me.  I switch off between FireFox and iCab
when I want to do any online work.


I have to admit, I'm becoming less and less enamoured with Safari. 
Seems like after each Tiger update, it's become slower and has more 
problems viewing sites.  Firefox and iCab don't have these 
difficulties.


- Dan.


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Re: [OT] The old days

[Dyna]

Amen!

	I'm retired at age 55 with no debt because for the last 
couple decades I've bought what I need instead of what I want. I buy 
a new compact car every 10 years, live in a house I inherited and 
rehabbed, and buy the cheapest new Mac every 5 years or so. My one 
disappointment with Apple was when I gave in and laid out $2200 for a 
Pismo that didn't even make it 5 years. My $800 iMac amd $500 Mac 
Mini are doing just fine though.


	Meanwhile, my friend has been doing her part to juice the 
economy- she and her partner buy a new $25,000 minivan every 3 years, 
move every 10 years, and will probably never be solvent enough to 
retire. I finally talked her into a Mac to replace the $2000+ PC she 
bought 5 years ago. A $500 Mac Mini would have met her e-mail and web 
surfing needs just fine but instead she pulled out her plastic 
and blew nearly $2000 on a loaded iMac with the unproven Intel 
processor. She justified this overkill by saying she needs the 
capacity to do video, but she doesn't even own a digital camera 
so she'll blow another thousand on that.


Propping up the economy is not my responsibility...

Dyna

And whether it be Mac or Intel, Micro$soft or Motorola, it keeps the 
economy going. The idea is to buy, buy, buy. This iBook is the 2nd 
new Mac I've ever had-the first was a Classic: six or so others were 
all 2nd or 3rd hand. I won't tell you how I got most software 
because it will start more arguments about Respect For The Law. I'm 
a crappy consumer, not putting my shoulder to the wheel any more 
than necessary. That's why I like "low-end Mac" - there are more 
than enough sites and posts about high-end Mac.


Peter Webster
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Re: security re: file sharing/networks

[Dyna]

Some of our home-owner association folx patrol the neighborhood on 
weekend evenings.  One of the things they look for is warchalks, so 
they can notify the home-owner...


	Must be nice to live in such an elite neighborhood that you 
can concern yourself with such "crime". In my 'hood you don't wander 
about after dark unless you're heavily armed. Warchalks- I wish our 
kids were doing that instead of crack and shooting at each other! 
I've got plenty of bandwidth though, because I'm about the only 
person with cable internet access on my block... the local 
gangbangers are more interested in pirating cable TV.




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Re: security re: file sharing/networks

[Dyna]

	Howard and Amber, perhaps my age is showing here, and the 
fact that I don't work in the computer biz. I was raised in the day 
when you were expected to pay for things like new books, bicycles, 
etc But once you'd bought them they were yours and you could loan 
or give your magazine or bicycle to a friend or neighbor as you 
wished.


	What has happened in the past few years is that the software 
companies, telcos, and cable companies have managed to pass 
tyrannical laws that stand centuries of legal tradition dating back 
to english common law on it's head. As a result people working in the 
computer biz are terrified that they'll be fired and blacklisted for 
installing an unwrapped copy of Windoze 95 on a friends old computer, 
etc.


	For us ordinary civilians who do not rely on the Micro$oft et 
al food chain for our sustenance this paranoia is pretty ridiculous. 
For example over the years when I had nothing to do at work I'd 
download my e-mail from the coffee shop across the streets Wi-Fi. I 
also went over their on breaks often and bought coffee and such. Was 
I stealing, or merely taking advantage of a free service they were 
providing? While travelling at night I have also parked next to a 
closed public library and used their Wi-Fi to check my e-mail, the 
weather, etc Was that stealing?


	Now if I were to walk into my local police station and turn 
myself in for these crimes they'd laugh me outa the place- they have 
real crime to deal with and don't want to be bothered with this BS. 
If I really insisted and it was a slow day they might write me a 
ticket for petty misdeanor theft and give me a phone number to call 
to set a court date months off. When I arrived in "court" (most 
likely an office cubicle with a fresh out of law school referee 
presiding) my case would go to the bottom of the docket. Around 5 pm, 
after all the real petty misdemeanors had been dealt with, I'd get my 
day in court. His eye on the clock, the prosecuting attorney would 
offer to drop the charges... when I refused to accept that he'd tell 
me to prosecute myself then, and head out the door. The referee would 
sentence me to one hours probation and maybe $100 court costs if I 
complained further as she put on her jacket and raced out the door.


So let's quit being paranoid and let some common sense prevail.


On 14-Jan-06, at 8:18 AM, Dyna wrote:


This theft of service bull is nonsense!

	If I buy a subscription to say, MacWorld, then leave it in 
the break room at work for my coworkers to read after I've read it, 
that's sharing, not stealing. If I buy bandwidth from the local 
telco or cable company and let my neighbors have what I don't need, 
that's sharing, not stealing.


Actually, the latter is normally against your terms of service so it 
is theft of service - not from you, but from the cable company. 
You allowing it to happen makes you just as guilty.


	Granted, the telcos and cable industry with their lobbyists 
have managed to persuade congress otherwise, but those laws are 
unenforceable anyway- is anyone doing time in club fed for "theft 
of service" with their home computer?


Just because the laws governing the theft of signal are currently 
difficult to enforce, it doesn't mean it's okay to break these laws.


It would seem that as long as you can get away with something, it's 
okay for you or others to do it.


Here is an example of a law being temporarily unenforceable - There 
is a major riot going on in a large city and people are looting 
stores/businesses left and right because there are not enough police 
resources to apprehend them.   Laws are still being broken.   Theft 
and vandalism are still are occurring.   Just because these people 
are not being caught and charged does not mean a crime has not been 
committed.


Amber

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Re: security re: file sharing/networks

[Dyna]

This theft of service bull is nonsense!

	If I buy a subscription to say, MacWorld, then leave it in 
the break room at work for my coworkers to read after I've read it, 
that's sharing, not stealing. If I buy bandwidth from the local telco 
or cable company and let my neighbors have what I don't need, that's 
sharing, not stealing.


	Granted, the telcos and cable industry with their lobbyists 
have managed to persuade congress otherwise, but those laws are 
unenforceable anyway- is anyone doing time in club fed for "theft of 
service" with their home computer?



On 13-Jan-06, at 11:52 PM, Clem Bacani wrote:

Drive around the neighborhood, park your car, open your laptop with 
broadband wireless adapter and presto you are connected online.
Chances are you will have more than one signal within that area.  
You are not stealing a signal because you are not intruding to 
someone else's property.  Incidentally, the signal is there in the 
air for you to use.


Not true - it is theft of service and you are intruding, even though 
you are not literally in their home.
The signal you pick up is likely only open simply because a resident 
in that area who has a wireless router did not bother to, or does 
not know how to,  set up security to protect their network.

This does not make it legal for you to surf and is not a gray area at all.

Actually, what you suggest above is just as much a crime as walking 
into somebody's home because you found the door unlocked and 
using/stealing their property.


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Re: Opinion wanted

[Dyna]

	Apple markets the iBook to schools with the implied assurance 
that it is capable of withstanding the abuse school kids can deliver. 
I would thusly raise unholy hell with Apple and remind them that your 
family  will personally lobby against any purchase of Apples by your 
school district, etc.. Hopefully Apple will realize that keeping your 
family as long term customers is more important than making a quick 
profit gouging you on repairs.

	If Apple no longer wants your family's business I would start 
looking for another similar iBook with other failed parts like a 
display. Given that a new 1.2 gig iBook goes for $900 at amazon.com I 
wouldn't spend more that $700 for a working 1.0 gig one and half that 
for one that needs repairs. After your done swapping parts you'll 
have a working iBook and lots of bits left over for future repairs... 
and the satisfaction of denying Apple the opportunity to gouge you 
again!

	BTW, my problem Pismo is sorta working after I put some fresh 
heat sink paste on the processor- it managed a whole day without 
freezing! I'm also in the market for another Pismo, dead or alive, 
within a day's drive of Minneapolis.

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Re: new laptop possibility

[Dyna]

	I'll have to dig around at my local Microcenter a bit- $617 
is less than it would cost to fix my lemon Pismo and upgrade it to 
match the iBook's specs. But one has to remember that like all 
current Apple portables it's a throwaway computer with a 3 year 
(AppleCare) life....

Dyna
Chris,
Good deal, until you find a MicroCenter selling a 1.0 gHz, 512m RAM, 
30 g HD, Combo drive, 12" iBook brand new in the box for $617. The 
outer shipping box was marked 256m RAM, but the Apple box was 512m 
RAM. Neither had been opened. The guy who bought it had an $849 
refurb on order with Apple at the time. He called to stop the order 
and buy the $617 iBook. Apple lowered the price by $40, still not 
enough in his case. Food for thought.

Shawn
On Mar 11, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Chris wrote:
Until recently (and I think it's a recurring deal) the Apple Store 
has been selling refurb 12" G4/1.2 iBooks, with Airport extreme 
standard, for $849, full 1 year warranty. That's a good deal.

Chris
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Re: My Pismo is dead-nothing??

[Dyna]

Might be easier for you to just buy another Pismo and swap your processor,
ram and HD into it, then keep your dead one for parts.
Andrew
	Problem is, after paying $400-500 for a working Pismo you may 
find it soon develops the same problems. Thusly I'm in the market for 
malfunctioning and dead Pismos for parts and have set an upper limit 
of $100 that I'll pay for one.

	Another solution is to buy one of the leftover 1 ghz iBooks 
for $800 and get Applecare because they're pretty much throwaway 
computers. Or do what Apple wishes we blind worshippers would do and 
lay out twice as much for a new Powerbook that could die the day 
after AppleCare expires. But the best solution may be for all of us 
stuck with Lemon Pismos to pressure Apple for a buy back al la 5300s- 
with the current class action suits Apple may not want another batch 
of angry customers!

Dyna
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

[Dyna]

If you compare a VW and a Mercedes you will see tires, a steering 
wheel, seats... does that make them equal?
	Which VW and Daimler-Chrysler products are you comparing- VW 
makes cars from the low priced subcompacts up to the Phaeton, 
Touraeg/Cayanne, Audi, and Bentley and light and medium trucks. 
Daimler Chrysler competes with VW in every market segment from the A 
class subcompacts and Neon through several SUVs wearing Dodge, Jeep, 
and Mercedes badging as well as the traditional Mercedes and Chrysler 
midrange and luxury cars. Daimler-Chrysler also produces Setra buses, 
Freightliner, Sterling, and Western Star trucks, Detroit Diesel 
engines, and owns half of MTM industrial engines. So just what 
"Mercedes" and "VW" were you comparing?

Yes, but when that processor is going to have to spend a lot of time 
dealing with spyware and virii, it's going to be much less efficient 
than in some lab.
	And if that processor is running under Linux it will have no 
more problems with such vermin that a Mac running OSX.

That's hilarious.  Linux is still a playground for people who have 
more time than money.  I like that even your own words indicate that 
you would be assured of tearing your hair out, but it would be free.
	That was partly true 5 years ago. In 1998 I installed Redhat 
5.2 on a Mitsubushi AMiTY mini laptop and it was a challenge. A 
couple months back I installed Suse on a couple year old PC for a 
friend and it was much easier, taking less than an hour.

Correction: "For the user on a tight budget with plenty of copious 
free time and a very high comfort level with computers and a 
willingness to dig under the hood of their computers."
	Again, having done a Linux installation recently I know 
otherwise. Getting complex applications like a screen reader for a 
blind user can entail some work, but that's an application Apple 
doesn't offer at any price.

I've had my Mac for almost a year, and it has paid for itself in the 
time that I have spent using it rather than fixing it.
	That was true of my first Mac, the 333 mhz iMac I'm typing 
this on. Since then I've probably spent more time trying to make my 
Pismo work than it took to get Linux running.

Your "average user" is a complete myth.
	Not entirely- in any mass market product like computers the 
majority will make similar uses of them. In the case of computers 
these uses tend to be stuff like web surfing, e-mail, etc. For those 
purposes any Mac or Linux running PC will do the job. But for some 
users that do stuff like video production, etc. the fastest Mac 
available is entirely justified. My loathed manager at work would be 
better off with just one terminal so he would be less distracted from 
doing his job.

Dyna
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

[Dyna]

On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:41 PM, Dyna wrote:
	Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware here-
So was he.
	OK, so let's compare hardware... I work for America's 3rd 
largest employer, the Postal Service. They've been sucked into the 
Micro$oft vortex and the official laptop and desktop OS is Windoze, 
while the official handheld OS is WinCe. Fortunately the serious 
computing like reading addresses is done with Linux. Almost all the 
handheld devices we use died a rapid death, there are a few laptops, 
and desktops everywhere. The laptops and desktops are supplied by 
HP/Compaq along with a very profitable service contract. Most of 
these PCs are assigned to supervisors some of whom have so loaded 
their hard drives with porn that they can barely do real work. We 
even have a supervicor who has brought his game input devices to work 
and plugged them in.

	The demands on this computing "machinery" are pretty low- 
word processing, e-mail, and accessing a web based truck tracking 
system. The desktops are too new to justify replacing, so probably 
the best solution for those users would be switching to Linux OS and 
bringing the tech support in house. One of the advantages of Linux is 
the ability to set up the porn surfers and game nuts displays for 
text only...

	Ultimately these PCs will need replacing and for the desktops 
the Mac Mini looks attractive. However, it's reliability is still an 
unknown and it costs twice as much as a PC running Linux. There is 
however potential for expanding the mobile computing into the trucks. 
However, given management's view that drivers are too stupid to 
operate a computer and would abuse them if they could, this is not 
likely to happen anytime soon. Basicly management sees computers as a 
control device and a spy in the cab rather than an enabling device 
for drivers.

	Thusly the only computers in the truck are unauthorized, like 
mine. For 3 years I shagged my Pismo to work and it was a wonderful 
tool, making Postal manuals, union contracts, etc. instantly 
available in the cab. Unfortunately management was jealous of the 
Mac's abilities and scared of the potential of a computer enabled 
employee. In fact, they became so paranoid that they seemed to be 
looking for justification to subpeona my hard drive.

	That Pismo is now so unreliable that I don't bring it to work 
anyway. Now if Apple's premium laptop only lasted 3 years in the 
truck 40 hours a week when I babied it, how long will an iBook last 
living in a truck 168 hours a week with sometimes indifferent users? 
Maybe a year at best I suspect that after the first round of 
repairs Apple would label the mass failures abuse and refuse to 
repair them even under AppleCare. Our techs would then be overwhelmed 
by stacks of dead Mac laptops, waiting forever for overpriced 
proprietary parts from Apple. I doubt there would be a repeat order...

	Clearly my employer would need something like a Panasonic 
ToughBook for their trucks, and even after Windoze was evicted and 
replaced with Linux it would be far more reliable than any current 
Mac portable and thusly have a lower lifetime cost. I found an even 
more elegant solution, a Sharp Zaurus 6000 handheld running Linux OS. 
It has built in Wi-Fi, does basic word processing,  is hardened to 
the point it is rated for a 1 meter drop, has no hard drive to 
subpeona, and because it fits in my pocket management doesn't know it 
exists anyway.

	None the less, there is still a small market for Apple at one 
of the world's largest computer buyers- one of our most disliked 
middle managers has used his discretionary purchasing authority to 
decorate his top floor corner office with 3 G4 towers and giant LCD 
displays. He does nothing with them that I can't do on my handheld, 
and is giving Apple a bad rep amongst his subordinates, who now see 
Apple as the big bad boss's toy...

holding a tiny Linux light in the pitch darkness of Windoze,
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

[Dyna]

. Time and again, when you compare Macintosh with similarly
equipped PeeCees, most of the time, the Peecees end up being far more
expensive than the Mac.
-Laurent.
	Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware 
here- I have refused gifts of bootleg Windoze with no regrets! 
Looking Mac and PC hardware these days one finds that a lot of the 
parts (hard drives, optical drives, memory, etc.) are the same. The 
Power PC is clearly a more powerful and efficent processor, but the 
PC processor will none the less handle most people's computing tasks 
capably. As for build quality, many Macs are now built by the same 
subcontractors that make PCs so there is no Mac advantage.

	In software Macs are clearly far superior to Micro$oft's 
attempts, but Linux is reasonably user friendly and will meet most 
peoples needs. Given the bugs in OSX, I sometimes wonder why I pay 
good money for upgrades when I could be having just as much "fun" 
tearing my hair out at 3 am trying to make it work running Linux for 
free...

	So how much cost premium is a Mac worth? For the user on a 
tight budget with basic needs an old PC running Linux will do the job 
for less than the cost of a Mac. For me I figure a 20% premium over 
PCs is the most I'll pay extra for a Mac. For some, a Mac is a status 
symbol like a luxury car and they will pay any amount to obtain one...

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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

[Dyna]

	The $500 Mac Mini has upset the whole Mac pricing structure 
and the market will force a correction. As a result the eMac is 
probably extinct and the the iMac will have to be given a substantial 
upgrade and/or it's price cut to under $1000. Meanwhile, the PC 
makers have responded to the Mini by offering a PC with Windoze AND 
an LCD display for a bit under the Mini's price point. In the laptop 
market with Linux and Windoze running PC laptops below $500 there's 
no point in spending over $1000 for a laptop. The PowerBook's market 
is thusly limited to a small but loyal cadre of Apole devotees and 
the iBook will need further price drops to be competitive..

flame away...
Dyna
It's hard to say, Apple did a good job over the last year of falling 
completely out of their upgrade cycle in several lines.  The iMac G5 
has remained the same since September when it was released. 
Typically apple revamps each series every 6 months or so, so 
March-April would be a good guess, but you can't really say for sure 
since so many lines lately have fallen out of the normal routine.  I 
think the only line that is still on it's normal routine for 
revamping is the iBook, but, of course, that could change come this 
spring.
If you want one, keep an eye on www.macrumors.com and I wouldn't 
wait any longer than a month or month and a half if you absolutely 
need the most up to date version.
Brian

On Feb 23, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Hi!
I have been doing some serious thinking and have realised
that maybe a PowerBook isn't what I really need, but a slightly
more powerfull, but semi-moveable computer, and when I
read on Apple's site that the iMac G5 is even sold as a moveable
machine, I figured that maybe I should consider this instead.
Well, I am pretty much decided, half the price, G5 instead
of G4, 1440 over 1280 is enough to sell it to me.
However, the PowerBook range was recently updated with
speeds and specs going up, and prices going down, but as
I haven't taken much notice of the iMac, I presume we're
still buying rev.1 machines...
Any rumours, or typical timing of an update ?
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Re: Applecare, how long should it take?

[Dyna]

	For what it costs and how much Apple hypes the "quality" of 
their products AppleCare should be damn near instant. Of course, for 
those like me that paid $2200 for a Pismo 4 years ago that now works 
when it feels like it AppleCare is no longer available. Now of course 
Apple's reccommended solution to this problem is for me to give them 
another couple grand for a new AlBook and 3 more years of 
Applecare Fat chance!- I can buy a stack of Pismo's for that 
kinda money, compute for years on them, and never drop a dime at the 
Apple Store again. No wonder Apple's share of the computer market 
continues to drop.

	But isn't the new Mac Mini supposed to draw in the 
"switchers" to replace the old Apple fanatics that have been driven 
off? Today at the local MicroCenter store the Mini Mac was being 
ignored while the aisles of the "Build Your Own System" section were 
busy. With 20% off on BYOS stuff the Shuttle et al "cubes" look 
tempting. And one can pretty much see that the PC vendors will match 
the Mac Mini on price with an LCD display, keyboard, mouse, etc. 
thrown in to boot..

	And given Apples recent quality problems, one can easily see 
busted Mac Mini's backlogged months for repairs, while the 
"switchers" switch right back never to buy Apple again!

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Re: Even more Pismo Problems!

[Dyna]

	Thanks James- the PRAM battery shows normal voltage so I haven't 
replaced it.

On Sunday, January 16, 2005, at 09:35 PM, James Sanderson wrote:
PRAM battery.  It seems that replacing it solves a number of issues, 
though not your mysterious crack.

j sanderson
On 16 Jan 2005, at 21:23, Dyna wrote:
	Yes, this is the same 2000 vintage Pismo I've been writing about for 
the last couple months... Initial symptoms were freezes and 
eventually wouldn't boot at all. After replacing the hard drive and a 
fresh install of OSs 9.1 and 10.2 it was working better. In fact at 
times it would go for a few hours without freezing. But the freezes 
are back, even after I took out the processor card and reseated it. I 
did note some dirtyness where the processor contacts the heat sink 
though, and like another listmember's my case is also mysteriously 
cracked.

Any suggestions?
thanks,
Dyna
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Even more Pismo Problems!

[Dyna]

	Yes, this is the same 2000 vintage Pismo I've been writing about for 
the last couple months... Initial symptoms were freezes and eventually 
wouldn't boot at all. After replacing the hard drive and a fresh 
install of OSs 9.1 and 10.2 it was working better. In fact at times it 
would go for a few hours without freezing. But the freezes are back, 
even after I took out the processor card and reseated it. I did note 
some dirtyness where the processor contacts the heat sink though, and 
like another listmember's my case is also mysteriously cracked.

Any suggestions?
thanks,
    Dyna
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Re: Applecare for Powerbooks

[Dyna]

On Friday, December 17, 2004, at 11:13 AM, Amber wrote:
The end of the first year of warranty is fast approaching for my G4
Powerbook and I am looking at have to pay almost $400.00 to extend it 
via
Applecare.
	I've been trying to suppress a rant on the declining quality of 
Apple's products and electronics and consumer products in general for 
about a week now, and can bite my tongue no longer.

	I expect electronic stuff to last a minimum of 5 years and motor 
vehicles at least 10. I have a 20 year old Ten-Tec ham radio 
transceiver that works fine, and put over a 1000 trouble free miles a 
month on a 1983 BMW motorcycle this year. I also have a '98 Ford Ranger 
in the fleet that needed one repair (rear brake linings) in 80,000 
miles and an '84 BMW motorcycle that has had no major repairs in 
100,000 miles. In my house I have 1985 Epson, 1990 Panasonic, and 1995 
Mitsubushi laptops that still work, and on my desk sits an '99 vintage 
333 mhz. iMac that has never failed me.

	That's the peaches, and now the lemons: A 2001 Yaesu ham transceiver 
that is broken beyond repair after less than 2 years service. A 1992 
BMW motorcycle that needed $3000 worth of repairs before the warranty 
expired. That bike now spends half it's time sitting in my garage 
waiting 'til i can get a good deal on used parts to fix it's latest 
failures.

	Back to warranties... The '83 and '84 BMWs were warrantied for 3 years 
and unlimited miles. BMW was never bankrupted by such liberal terms 
because they built such a reliable product. One rider even rode 200,000 
miles in 3 years, and BMW cheerfully paid for a ring job and minor 
repairs. The TenTec's appear to be designed to last forever, and they 
still support stuff they made in the '70s- probably because they're 
owned by a couple retired hams, make a lot of military electronics, 
etc. It's in the DNA- TenTec doesn't know how to make an unreliable 
radio. BMW's motorcycle quality went to hell because of the retirement 
of some veteran engineers, cost cutting, etc. Yaesu is still suffering 
from a merger that left them in a shambles. BMW's solution was to cut 
their warranty to 40,000 miles- about the point where their cost 
cutting and boy racer engineering causes expensive parts to start 
breaking. Yaesu simply stonewalls customers- I have yet to receive a 
reply to an e-mail sent months ago.

And Apple?
	About the time the G3 PowerBook production was winding down Apple 
limited AppleCare protection to the first 3 years of life. I take that 
action as an admission that Apple's hardware is now so unreliable and 
difficult to repair (compare hard drive replacement on a Pismo to the 
latest AlBook) that they'd lose money if they guaranteed it past 3 
years.  Apple may also be trying to manipulate if not force us to buy a 
new Mac every 3 years. I paid $2200 for my Pismo only because I 
expected a quality product that would last at least 5 years. After 3 
years I am left with a laptop so unreliable I don't take it out of my 
house. Suffice to say, I won't be waiting in line at the Apple Store to 
buy a new PowerBook or probably anything else Apple.

Dyna
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Re: Pismo Problems, Continued...

[Dyna]

On Friday, December 17, 2004, at 11:18 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
I don't think that this symptom is a common problem with the G3 
PowerBooks.
I used a Wallstreet for about 6 months, then a Pismo for about a year 
and
never had any unexpected freeze, never, ever. Your problem might still 
be
with the RAM you added. It might work most of the time, but when the
temperature raises, you might get to some threshold where the RAM will 
fail,
hence locking up the computer...
	I suspected heat failed RAM too So I experimented with the old RAM 
only and the new RAM only and had freezes either way. I also 
experimented with switching RAM between the lower and upper slots and 
saw no difference. Interestingly, I did once get an error message 
saying the processor cache memory or something like that was 
malfunctioning. Of course, that is not an easy item to replace.

thanks again,
    Dyna
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Pismo Problems, Continued...

[Dyna]

	Thanks to everyone who suggested fixes for my near dead Pismo. The 
hard drive was indeed bad, and I replaced it with a new 40 gig Hitachi 
and added 256 megs of RAM while I was in there to up the total RAM to 
384 megs. Despite all this new hardware the Pismo often needed repeated 
reboots to start up and usually froze up after it had been running a 
while. So following the advice given to the new Lombard owner with 
similar problems I pulled and reseated the processor card and it's RAM.

	The Pismo now usually boots up and goes to work, but occasionally 
freezes after an hour or more of use. It then refuses to boot until I 
disconnect all power and I sometimes have to disconnect the PRAM 
battery as well. This seems to be a common problem with the G3 
PowerBooks, and makes one wonder if some component is failing as it 
ages past AppleCare's 3 year coverage limit and refuses to function 
after it warms up... any theories or even fixes?

thanks again for all the help- at least my Pismo now works sometimes!
		Dyna 

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Re: Pismo in Profound Vegatative State

[Dyna]

	Thanks Alejandro and Lauren also. I got it to boot with the OS9 
software restore CD and ran Disk First Aid, which showed errors on the 
hard drive. Then it froze before I could let Disk First Aid attempt any 
repairs and I haven't been able to get it to boot again.

thanks again,
    Dyna
On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, at 01:43 PM, Alejandro wrote:
Hi.
Check booting on OS 9 and deleting the "System" and
the "Library" Folders.
Make a Back Up of the "Preferences" folder
(Users/Username/Library/Preferences) and then delete
the "Users" folder (of course, make a Back Up of ALL
your stuff located on Documents, Pictures, Movies,
Music, etc.).
Once the Trash is empty, try reinstalling OS X.
If everything goes fine, you will be able to add your
dcuments and your preferences again (add your
preferences very slowly, no more than ten each time
and check restarting for checking them).
If soemthing goes wrong, boot on OS 9 and remove those
preferences.
Good Luck.
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My 2000 Pismo running OS10.2 has become near
impossible to boot. Early
symptoms were freezes in Mail and occasionally
Safari. As the disease
progressed the Pismo required repeated attempts to
get it to fully boot
and frequent crashes with a lot of UNIX error
messages on the screen.
Now it will only boot as far as the screen coming on
with the Apple
logo and occasionally the little thingy starts
spinning. I haven't been
able to get it to boot any farther the last few
days.
I've tried the easy fixes- reinstall OS, reset by
button on back,
checked PRAM battery and it shows the proper 6
volts. Any suggestions
for diagnosis and treatment?
thanks in advance,
Dyna

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Pismo in Profound Vegatative State

[Dyna]

	My 2000 Pismo running OS10.2 has become near impossible to boot. Early 
symptoms were freezes in Mail and occasionally Safari. As the disease 
progressed the Pismo required repeated attempts to get it to fully boot 
and frequent crashes with a lot of UNIX error messages on the screen. 
Now it will only boot as far as the screen coming on with the Apple 
logo and occasionally the little thingy starts spinning. I haven't been 
able to get it to boot any farther the last few days.

	I've tried the easy fixes- reinstall OS, reset by button on back, 
checked PRAM battery and it shows the proper 6 volts. Any suggestions 
for diagnosis and treatment?

thanks in advance,
		Dyna 
 

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Questions on Jaguar

[Dyna]

The half price offer on Jaguar for federal employees has me 
tempted... but I have a lot of questions about Jaguar that Apple's 
web site hasn't answered. First, will my classic aps still run? 
Second, will installing Jaguar destroy all the data on my hard drive?

thanks,
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Re: Manuals WARNING:o)

[Dyna]

In writing, Walt confessed to:

>Myself? I drool over Apple. I have never been so satisfied with my computer
>and operating system as I am now with Apple. I used PCs from 1988 until
>1999. I bought my first Apple in 99, as I said earlier, just to see if I
>would like it. Being that it was my "trial" machine, I bought the low end
>model. I loved it. So much so, that the next year I bought a new one. 2000 I
>bought an iMac DV SE. I would have bought a newer one in 2001, but I bought
>a 4 year old Cadillac Seville (and paid for it in a year) for my Wife as
>well as my iBook in November of 2001. I am crazy about my iBook, and plan on
>getting a TiBook this autumn. Then there are my normal purchases. iPod (5
>Gig, and soon to be 10), Palms (my new m515 should be arriving in the mail
>within a week or so), digital cameras (Mine and the Wife's), digital video
>camera, Adobe software, Microsoft Office v.X. A quick check of Quicken tells
>me that I spent $11,800  on computers, hardware accessories (like what I
>just mentioned) and software between last year and this year so far.

Walt, it's good to see that you've been doing more than your 
share to help support our ailing computer industry. I bought my first 
computer 20 years ago, and haven't in those 20 years spent as much as 
you have in the last year and not quite a half. And every one of 
those computers is still in my home and works.

I know I should really do more to help prop up the economy 
and help fill our landfills with last year's computers. And speaking 
of landfills- I could have saved at least one of those cute little 
iCubes from such a fate! I feel awful- I'm going to dig out my debit 
card and order one of everything Apple makes right now. And just to 
make sure I'm never solvent again, I'll put the balance of my assets 
in Apple stock!

in best humor,
Dyna


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Re: Manuals WARNING:o)

[Dyna]

>The issue of manual availability aside, your statements are very curious to
>me. Let's face it -- Apple is a hardware company -- they make their money by
>selling hardware! In a perfect world (for Apple), every day they should be
>able to increase market share by attracting brand-new customers, and
>certainly the new offerings and OS X are attracting new people to the
>platform.

I can find no compelling reason to replace my 333mhz iMac 
desktop machine or "upgrade" to OSX.

>  But the bulk of Apple sales are to those of us who are already Mac
>users/owners. I imagine that some of the reasons pertaining to Applecare
>covering only three years is that (1) certainly Apple would like to see that
>computer owner come and buy a new machine, but also

I imagine Ford would like me to trade in my 5 year old pickup 
and finance a new one. No thanks- I'll wait a few more years and be 
able to pay cash.

>(2) the improvements come
>with such rapidity, that in three years, the machines currently available are
>lightyears ahead of the older equipment.

In the early days of both motor vehicles and computers this 
was true. The personal computer is now over a quarter century old and 
the Mac is now getting close to 20 years old, especially if you count 
the Lisa. A new iMac won't do e-mail, surf the web, or process words 
much better than my 3 year old one.

>  I think that unless you are a very
>casual home user, expecting a computer to service you WELL for five years may
>now be unrealistic. Yes, it will still work, and can be used, but you'd get
>so much more value from a new machine

Let me get this right- I'm supposed to bin my working 3 year 
old iMac for a new one at upwards of $1300? Just so I can impress 
every one with how cl it looks?

>. Your concluding statement was most
>curious of all -- because of your own perception of Apple's "banditry" you'd
>rather get a Wintel machine next time?!?!? Seems like you'll just be shooting
>off your own foot. Why would you want to do that to yourself? How do you
>think subjecting yourself to dealing with a Wintel machine is going to hurt
>Apple, especially since you weren't planning on spending money on a new
>machine anyway? Sounds like you're going to inflict far more pain upon
>yourself. Good luck.

I can by a new desktop PC, monitor, and linux distro for 
$600. Why should I spend $800 more for that fancy new iMac? 
Especially given that a desktop PC is pretty generic, thusly cheap 
and easy to maintain... unlike the iMac with it's many proprietary 
parts.

peace,
Dyna

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>In a message dated 5/31/02 1:24:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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><<  I've come to consider the availability of servicing
>information damn near a constitutional right. Without manuals and
>such my PowerBook will probably be one failure away from the dumpster
>when the extended warranty expires. Apple will only sell you 3 years
>warranty, which perhaps says something about the durability of their
>hardware. I expect at least 5 years use from electronic stuff, and 10
>years from motor vehicles. The BMW I rode to work today is 18 years
>old, and in that time 2 local dealers have gone out of business and
>the 3rd is useless. Without a manual it would have been binned long
>ago. I also have a Ten-Tec ham radio transceiver from the early 1980s
>that came with a very complete manual. It thusly still works fine and
>will continue to do so for years to come. These items are "keepers",
>while the Pismo seems a throwaway toy by comparison.
>
> Apple seems to think they'll force me to lay out a couple
>grand for a new PowerBook every 3 years. I don't reward such
>banditry, and will by my next computer elsewhere. If Apple had
>treated me better I'd buy a new PowerBook every 5 years- instead
>their greed has completely lost me as a customer.
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Re: Manuals WARNING:o)

[Dyna]

David, from what I've heard the older PowerBooks were quite 
reliable. However, my Pismo has the feel of a cheap toy. It's never 
been dropped, but the left rear corner of the case is cracked and the 
IR cover has fallen out. The battery keeps falling out so I've had to 
tape it in.

I motorcycle too, but usually not with my PowerBook. It's too 
heavy to carry in my courier bag and takes up way too much space. I 
doubt if it would long survive the vibration of my BMWs, never mind 
the Buell.

I've come to consider the availability of servicing 
information damn near a constitutional right. Without manuals and 
such my PowerBook will probably be one failure away from the dumpster 
when the extended warranty expires. Apple will only sell you 3 years 
warranty, which perhaps says something about the durability of their 
hardware. I expect at least 5 years use from electronic stuff, and 10 
years from motor vehicles. The BMW I rode to work today is 18 years 
old, and in that time 2 local dealers have gone out of business and 
the 3rd is useless. Without a manual it would have been binned long 
ago. I also have a Ten-Tec ham radio transceiver from the early 1980s 
that came with a very complete manual. It thusly still works fine and 
will continue to do so for years to come. These items are "keepers", 
while the Pismo seems a throwaway toy by comparison.

Apple seems to think they'll force me to lay out a couple 
grand for a new PowerBook every 3 years. I don't reward such 
banditry, and will by my next computer elsewhere. If Apple had 
treated me better I'd buy a new PowerBook every 5 years- instead 
their greed has completely lost me as a customer.

peace,
Dyna





>This mentality is amazing to me.  Having owned HUNDREDS of Powerbooks (I deal
>in them), and having done some rather exotic activities with them (ever try a
>motorcycle wreck with a powerbook on your back?), I BEG to disagree with you.
>  Aside from the Powerbook 5300 series, I've found Powerbooks to be more
>reliable than ANY PC laptop I've dealt with.
>
>Yes they are jealous about information--but you have to understand that
>information is valuable.  Apple doesn't like little guys like me who figure
>out supplier parts, and buy them direct--because that's how they protect
>their market. But it's not wrong or illegal, and you are promoting
>communistic mentalities to argue that they MUST give you the information you
>want just because you want it. Even though I make my money from the
>information I can peel from Apple, I totally disagree with your philosophy.
>
>Thanks,
>David
>

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