Re: carbon copy cloner, silverkeeper, etc.

2005-07-14 Thread Dan O'Donnell

On Jul 12, 2005, at 10:53 PM, Claire Hart wrote:


Go to Applications/Utilities and find Disk Utility. Launch it, and
select the disk you back up to.
Go to the tab Partition, and create two partitions. You can make
these equal size, or you can adjust the size according to preference.


Dan,

I effortlessly partitioned my previous external HD a few years ago 
into 6 20GB partitions.  This time around, I can't seem to figure out 
how to do it.  With everything being so plug  play, I wasn't even 
asked if I wanted to initialize this HD when I first connected it to 
my computer.  When I go to Applications / Utilities / Disk Utility, I 
can't find a tab or anything that says partition.  I'm using 
Panther.


Of course you have to do this from a separate boot disk, with the disk 
to be partitioned mounted through Firewire.


When you launch Disk Utility there will be (at least) two icons in the 
tray on the left edge of the application window. One icon at the top 
will be the boot disk. The next disk icon will be just below; and the 
icon below it will be indented to the right. Choose the icon that 
represents the mounted disk, the one to be partitioned.


This will allow the display of five tabs along the upper edge of the 
centrish window: First Aid, Erase, Partition, RAID, Restore.

I frequently erase first, and then partition.

When you partition you'll get a column along the left of the central 
window that shows all the partitions. You'll have only one partition. 
Underneath the column is a button to Split. Click that and choose the 
number of partitions you want. Size them and name appropriately, and 
there you have it.



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Re: carbon copy cloner, silverkeeper, etc.

2005-07-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 12/07/05 02:13, Claire Hart at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip!]
 Now I need to know what I'm doing.  I'm going to backup my PowerBook
 which currently runs 10.3.9, then install Tiger, Virtual PC, XP Pro,
 and so on.  However, I also want to have the ability to back up my iMac
 (Blueberry DV 400) onto the same external drive without everything
 turning into scrambled eggs.  Has anyone had a similar experience?
 Sometimes it's easier to ask you guys on this list than it is to read
 all of the Read Me's and PDF manuals, especially when it involved
 comparing two applications, not quite understanding all of the
 terminology, and having to choose which one is best.  Obviously, I have
 Carbon Copy Cloner for OS X, but SilverKeeper came with the LaCie
 external drive.  One of the things I'm reading on SilverKeeper's little
 window is This is NOT an archive program.  Only the current data on
 your source is maintained on your backup copy.  What in the world does
 that mean?  It looks impressive; I'm just not sure what it does!
[snip!]

About Carbon Copy Cloner, this utility will replace or put all the content
of one hard drive onto another drive. So, it you first cloned the PowerBook
and then the iMac, then everything that was on the PowerBook with the same
name than what was on the iMac was replaced when Carbon Copy Cloner cloned
the iMac disk. That's maybe why you ended up with something strange. You
have to remember that Carbon Copy Cloner clones hard drives, it makes a
total duplicate of one hard drive onto another without checking what was on
the hard drive before.

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Re: carbon copy cloner, silverkeeper, etc.

2005-07-12 Thread Brian McEwen


On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

the iMac disk. That's maybe why you ended up with something  
strange. You
have to remember that Carbon Copy Cloner clones hard drives, it  
makes a
total duplicate of one hard drive onto another without checking  
what was on

the hard drive before.


yup.

An easy solution for the IP, since the data on the disk currently was  
just to test, would be to repartiton the backup drive into 2 pieces.   
format them each, and use one for each CPU backup.


CCC will be fine for that, assuming that space isn't an issue, and  
that you only want one current snapshot of each drive, no history  
as it were will be kept, each time you backup (put a mirror image  
really) you'll overwrite the old one.


B


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Re: carbon copy cloner, silverkeeper, etc.

2005-07-12 Thread Dan O'Donnell

On Jul 12, 2005, at 6:41 AM, Brian McEwen wrote:



On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


the iMac disk. That's maybe why you ended up with something  
strange. You
have to remember that Carbon Copy Cloner clones hard drives, it  
makes a
total duplicate of one hard drive onto another without checking  
what was on

the hard drive before.



yup.

An easy solution for the IP, since the data on the disk currently  
was just to test, would be to repartiton the backup drive into 2  
pieces.  format them each, and use one for each CPU backup.


Go to Applications/Utilities and find Disk Utility. Launch it, and  
select the disk you back up to.
Go to the tab Partition, and create two partitions. You can make  
these equal size, or you can adjust the size according to preference.  
(If one of the drives to be backed up is larger than one of the equal- 
size partitions, then adjust the partitions. You'll see that it's  
easy to do this in Disk Utility.)


You'll want to name each partition. Recommend you name them so they  
are easily distinguishable (Big, Little; or a more descriptive 80GB,  
40GB, or whatever is appropriate.)


CCC will be fine for that, assuming that space isn't an issue, and  
that you only want one current snapshot of each drive, no history  
as it were will be kept, each time you backup (put a mirror image  
really) you'll overwrite the old one.


Use CCC to back up each computer to one partition, and you'll now  
have a backup of each.



FWIW, I do this with a LaCie disk. I've partitioned it into three  
slices 80_LaCie, 40_LaCie and 25_LaCie. The first gets the backups of  
my main desktop machine, the second gets backups of my laptop, and I  
had enough space left over to make a scratch disk for keeping video  
and audio clips and files.


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Re: carbon copy cloner, silverkeeper, etc.

2005-07-12 Thread Claire Hart

Go to Applications/Utilities and find Disk Utility. Launch it, and
select the disk you back up to.
Go to the tab Partition, and create two partitions. You can make
these equal size, or you can adjust the size according to preference.


Dan,

I effortlessly partitioned my previous external HD a few years ago into 
6 20GB partitions.  This time around, I can't seem to figure out how to 
do it.  With everything being so plug  play, I wasn't even asked if 
I wanted to initialize this HD when I first connected it to my 
computer.  When I go to Applications / Utilities / Disk Utility, I 
can't find a tab or anything that says partition.  I'm using Panther.


Has anyone used SilverKeeper?  It came with the LaCie external drive.  
How is it different than CCC?


Thanks,
Claire


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Carbon Copy Cloner

2005-05-18 Thread Brian Stewart
Observation...
I use CCC (carbon copy cloner) to backup my powerbook to a firewire 
external case. I use image backups because I can fit 3 or 4 backups on 
my external drive instead of just one. I backup it up once a week and 
have about a month of backup images.

The CCC process was failing with a Bad File Descriptor error. After 2 
weeks I figured out the problem. My external hard drive was too full to 
create a new image. Instead of saying FULL TARGET DRIVE it gave me 
the Bad File Descriptor error.

Just a heads up. I was worried that my powerbook hard drive was 
corrupted... and I did not have a recent backup...

Remember - ALWAYS BACK UP YOUR DATA... 

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2005-05-18 Thread Harry Corsover
How about another reminder -- ALWAYS run disk utilities on your  
backup drives (Disk Utility, DiskWarrior, etc.). While I had been  
doing this quite regularly on my internal drive, for some reason I  
spaced out doing this on my external backup drive. When the time came  
to restore from that backup, I found that it was too corrupted.

Following that, I have become really thorough. Not only do I run  
DiskWarrior regularly, but I bought two more external drives, and  
rotate them, keeping one off-site at all times.

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dantz retrospect vs. carbon copy cloner??

2005-02-12 Thread George Ruta
hi, i need some advice. i broke down and bought and external firewire 
harddrive to back up my alu-book to. i had plannedd on using carbon 
copy cloner, but it came with dantz retrospect bundled. any opinions on 
which to use??? TIA
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Re: dantz retrospect vs. carbon copy cloner??

2005-02-12 Thread Jan Musil
I would go with CCC after my previous horrible experience with Retrospect. Yes 
it is few years back when I spent 3 days trying to restore my startup volume 
only to find note that their first version had a bug and that I lost my data. 
That is my little story.
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Carbon Copy Cloner and its ilk....

2004-05-10 Thread illovox
A hearty thank you to all who have responded.  Here are the goals I have and
the problems I have encountered in accomplishing those goals:

I have a Pismo fully up to date not only with OSX and a 9.2.2 set up, but
also with all my apps and data, natch.  I want to clone the whole shebang to
my TiBook 667 (purchased over even faster models because it was the last
with irDa, a protocol I use and enjoy for quick file swaps with business
partners).

I recently tried CCC.  Problems encountered:

1.  Hang in the middle of clone?  Should one just continue or erase the
target and start over or leave target as is and start over?  I tried the
last solution and...

2.  The target volume was not bootable.

So, what have I done incorrectly?  Will it also clone all the 9.2.2 aspects?
Does the target have to be a certain speed?  (Currently, it is a 4400rpm 80
gigger, compared to the source, which a 7200rpm 40 gigger.)


All inout regarding accomplishing my goals welcome.

Yours,

Run V.
Illovox Media

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 To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW that
 will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up disk.
 You can also use it to make perdiodic back-ups of said
 bootable disks.
 
 There are numerous products that can make a bootable image including
 SuperDuper which is what I am currently using. CCC is a fine product
 but
 from day one it has had one annoying flaw - it tends to stall while
 making a
 clone to an external drive. If you are cloning internal to internal or
 partition to partition it isn't as apt to stall but it still does
 occasionally. I've been using SuperDuper since the day it was released
 to
 make cloned disks for work. Great program.
 
 david

 CCC works great for me.. Occasionally an issue with getting it to bless the
 target drive.  Have only had that happen 2x's, and I've done 20 or so fully
 duplications. 
 
 My recommendation: make sure you double-check the drive before deleting your
 original drive!
 
 Tom

 Anyone with experience with Carbon Copy Cloner care to share use tips
 and
 experience?
 
 I'm using CCC in a home environment for about 8 months and never had a
 problem backing up my internal HD regularly.
 
 Greetings, Andre.


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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner and its ilk....

2004-05-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 10, 2004, at 1:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A hearty thank you to all who have responded.  Here are the goals I 
have and
the problems I have encountered in accomplishing those goals:

I have a Pismo fully up to date not only with OSX and a 9.2.2 set up, 
but
also with all my apps and data, natch.  I want to clone the whole 
shebang to
my TiBook 667 (purchased over even faster models because it was the 
last
with irDa, a protocol I use and enjoy for quick file swaps with 
business
partners).

I recently tried CCC.  Problems encountered:

1.  Hang in the middle of clone?  Should one just continue or erase the
target and start over or leave target as is and start over?  I tried 
the
last solution and...

2.  The target volume was not bootable.

The start over part was what messed up the bootable part, I'll bet.

It sounds as though there's a problem with the Ti disk. What I'd do is:

start the Tibook from the OS X CD and reformat the drive, don't forget 
to include the OS 9 drivers.

Now clone the Pismo to the Ti book in FW target mode.

I've done this three times without errors.



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RE - Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-09 Thread Bob Gir.
 To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW that
 will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up disk.
 You can also use it to make periodic back-ups of said
 bootable disks. 
 Best
 George

Just got back from vacation and read the above.

There is indeed another way to make a bootable image of an OS X start up
disk, at least in OS X.3.3.  I am always surprised so few people know about
it.

Launch Disk Utility
Click on a HD Icon so the tabs (First Aid/Erase/Restore) appear
Choose Restore tab
Drag the icon of the HD for which you wish to make a bootable image into
the Source Window.
Drag the icon of the HD to which you wish to make the bootable image
into the Destination Window.
ONLY choice is to whether or not to click the Erase Destination box.
His Restore button and sit back and wait a few minutes and that's it.

Bob


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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-09 Thread Mikael Byström
George, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW that
will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up disk. 
You can also use it to make perdiodic back-ups of said
bootable disks. 
Best
George


I think Synchronize Pro does this also, but that is a quite costly
application. 




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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-09 Thread Susan Platter
Thank you for mentioning that, David. I have downloaded a free trial 
copy and the full program is 19.95 US Dollars.

Susan
Swindon, Wiltshire
England
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Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 19:44:48 -0400
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On 5/8/04 4:38 PM, George Mogiljansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW that
will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up disk.
You can also use it to make perdiodic back-ups of said
bootable disks.
There are numerous products that can make a bootable image including
SuperDuper which is what I am currently using. CCC is a fine product 
but
from day one it has had one annoying flaw - it tends to stall while 
making a
clone to an external drive. If you are cloning internal to internal or
partition to partition it isn't as apt to stall but it still does
occasionally. I've been using SuperDuper since the day it was released 
to
make cloned disks for work. Great program.

david


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I WILL NOT TAKE IT Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-08 Thread illovox
on 5/8/04 10:55 AM, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Your own bias is fine. You can be angry, hurt, biased, biggoted, racist,=20
 whatever you want. I can't control that. But don't spread that=20
 bias/bigotry/racism on me or anyone else, because I WILL NOT TAKE IT.
 Don't=20=
 lie about me, don't=20
 lie about others,  and don't assume things that aren't factual.


This is an open list in which multiple points of view can and will be
expressed, except as moderated by the nanny.

You don't understand libel either.  If a person writes my experience is...
that is not libel.  If a person conflates such a statement and accuses the
poster of bigotry/racism either directly or by implication, that is libel.

We get it.  You love Apple.  Only you should be allowed to post critical
comments regarding their products.

Anyone with experience with Carbon Copy Cloner care to share use tips and
experience?


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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-08 Thread George Mogiljansky
To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW that
will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up disk. 
You can also use it to make perdiodic back-ups of said
bootable disks. 
Best
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-08 Thread john slavin
What about BootCD.

http://www.charlessoft.com/

Although it won't create a Panther startup disk, it works great with 
Jaguar.

On May 8, 2004, at 3:38 PM, George Mogiljansky wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW that
will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up disk.
You can also use it to make perdiodic back-ups of said
bootable disks.
Best
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-08 Thread Harry D . Corsover
On May 8, 2004, at 2:38 PM, George Mogiljansky wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW that
will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up disk.
You can also use it to make perdiodic back-ups of said
bootable disks.
Can it be used to make incremental backups, like Retrospect can?

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-08 Thread George Mogiljansky
I dont't use it for that, but I'm pretty aure you can.

--- Harry D. Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On May 8, 2004, at 2:38 PM, George Mogiljansky
 wrote:
 
  To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW
 that
  will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up
 disk.
  You can also use it to make perdiodic back-ups of
 said
  bootable disks.
 
 Can it be used to make incremental backups, like
 Retrospect can?
 
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/8/04 4:38 PM, George Mogiljansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To the best of my knowledge, CCC is the only SW that
 will  make a bootable image of an OS X start up disk.
 You can also use it to make perdiodic back-ups of said
 bootable disks. 

There are numerous products that can make a bootable image including
SuperDuper which is what I am currently using. CCC is a fine product but
from day one it has had one annoying flaw - it tends to stall while making a
clone to an external drive. If you are cloning internal to internal or
partition to partition it isn't as apt to stall but it still does
occasionally. I've been using SuperDuper since the day it was released to
make cloned disks for work. Great program.

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2004-05-08 Thread Harry D . Corsover
On May 8, 2004, at 5:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There are numerous products that can make a bootable image including
SuperDuper which is what I am currently using. CCC is a fine product 
but
from day one it has had one annoying flaw - it tends to stall while 
making a
clone to an external drive. If you are cloning internal to internal or
partition to partition it isn't as apt to stall but it still does
occasionally. I've been using SuperDuper since the day it was released 
to
make cloned disks for work. Great program.

david
I never had that problem with CCC, copying to an external LaCie D2 
FireWire 800 drive.

Does SuperDuper do incremental backups?

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner? (Was Wallstreet Disk Problems)

2004-04-30 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 29, 2004, at 7:23 PM, Rad Craig wrote:
Also, how can I make a copy that will allow this laptop to be network
bootable if I might have problems at some point and need to boot off 
of that
version?  How does all that work?

You cannot network boot that system; newer macs can be network booted, 
but only from OS X Server.

Think about it...how are you going to network boot the drive if you 
have to mount an SMB share to do it?  Network booting is very 
OS-specific.

Your best bet for an emergency backup of that Wallstreet is to back it 
up to an external SCSI HDD. Then when needed , boot from the external 
drive and use CCC to kick over the contents.

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Carbon Copy Cloner? (Was Wallstreet Disk Problems)

2004-04-29 Thread Rad Craig
Ok, I have a copy of Carbon Copy Cloner now.  I looked in the preferences
and I¹m not sure what I need to set.  I want to make a clone of my hd on
this laptop and save it across the network to a Windoze 2000 Server.

What settings do I need to check/uncheck to do this and then be able to
restore it back to this machine if something goes wrong and I can¹t get
Panther to install fresh?

Also, how can I make a copy that will allow this laptop to be network
bootable if I might have problems at some point and need to boot off of that
version?  How does all that work?

Sorry for the questions, I¹m still a mac newb.  I could read through the
help files for an hour and still possibly get it wrong, or ask someone who¹s
done it and knows how to do it right.  Thanks in advance.


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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner? (Was Wallstreet Disk Problems)

2004-04-29 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 29/04/04 22:23, Rad Craig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, I have a copy of Carbon Copy Cloner now.  I looked in the preferences
 and I¹m not sure what I need to set.  I want to make a clone of my hd on
 this laptop and save it across the network to a Windoze 2000 Server.
 
 What settings do I need to check/uncheck to do this and then be able to
 restore it back to this machine if something goes wrong and I can¹t get
 Panther to install fresh?
 
 Also, how can I make a copy that will allow this laptop to be network
 bootable if I might have problems at some point and need to boot off of that
 version?  How does all that work?
 
 Sorry for the questions, I¹m still a mac newb.  I could read through the
 help files for an hour and still possibly get it wrong, or ask someone who¹s
 done it and knows how to do it right.  Thanks in advance.
 

Well, you first have to mount the Windows 2000 volume where you want to
create that disk image. Then, open CCC. If CCC supports a remote volume,
then it should appear in the source disk popup and in the target disk popup.
If the remote volume doesn't appear, then CCC doesn't support that kind of
cloning...

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner? (Was Wallstreet Disk Problems)

2004-04-29 Thread George Mogiljansky
But doesn't CCC make a bootable disk out of the target
disk? Or is that one option? 
Also, can you use a non-Apple ROM HDD - I've tried
everything to install X on a Compaq branded HDD but no
go. I was able to install OS 9 drivers via the X
install CD, but Apple Drive Set Up still sees it as an
unsupported drive.
George

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  Ok, I have a copy of Carbon Copy Cloner now.  If
CCC
 supports a remote volume,
 then it should appear in the source disk popup and
 in the target disk popup.
 If the remote volume doesn't appear, then CCC
 doesn't support that kind of
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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner? (Was Wallstreet Disk Problems)

2004-04-29 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 29/04/04 23:44, George Mogiljansky at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But doesn't CCC make a bootable disk out of the target
 disk? Or is that one option?
 Also, can you use a non-Apple ROM HDD - I've tried
 everything to install X on a Compaq branded HDD but no
 go. I was able to install OS 9 drivers via the X
 install CD, but Apple Drive Set Up still sees it as an
 unsupported drive.

Really? I haven't seen this in a long time, back during the system 8 days. I
have a few IDE drives that don't have an Apple ROM and Drive Utility in OS X
always formatted them...

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner Copying Specific Programs Mail Port

2003-11-29 Thread Illovox Media
Here's a question or two:

I have an iBook with hinge/screen problems that will be off to Apple for
repair.  I set up a Pismo for replacement use while it is gone.  I've
already set up the 9.2.2 System, Programs and Preferences and on the same
volume installed the basics of OS X.2.8.  What I am wondering is the
following:

If I use Carbon Copy Cloner, does the target drive get wiped of all except
for what is being copied over?

Here is my real dilemma:  There are programs on the iBook I want to port to
the Pismo, particularly FCPro 3, but also others with settings I don't want
to have to recreate.  I have FCP 4 that I got for my G4 Dual, and when I got
it I gave away my FCP 3 set to a needy friend ACROSS THE COUNTRY.  Only too
late did I realize FCP 4 will not run a G3 book.  How do I copy FCP 3 to my
Pismo for temp use, plus other specific programs and OSX pref files such as
for MSN Messenger?

Another question:  I want to make the switch to OSX full time, but how do I
transfer my OS9 Outlook Express mail and address book stuff etc. to Mail or
Outlook in X?

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Re: MAC OS9 Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 10:13  PM, James G (Jim) Hardwick 
wrote:

20031126
I just went there. It's still there. Downloading another copy right 
now:

http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html



Is CCC still available for OS 9.x.x?
Uh, yeah

Open a window on the root of disk 1, command-a, drag all to disk 2. 
Wait until done. Don't forget the stuff in the desktop folder.

CCC was developed because you *couldn't* do that in OS X, so your 
answer is actually, no CCC was *never* available for OS9.

I expect Disk Copy would do that as well, though I never tried it with 
hard drives, seeing that the Finder sufficed just fine.

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MAC OS9 Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-26 Thread James G (Jim) Hardwick
20031126
On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 10:13  PM, James G (Jim) Hardwick wrote:

20031126
I just went there. It's still there. Downloading another copy right now:

http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html



Is CCC still available for OS 9.x.x?
Uh, yeah

Open a window on the root of disk 1, command-a, drag all to disk 2. 
Wait until done. Don't forget the stuff in the desktop folder.

CCC was developed because you *couldn't* do that in OS X, so your 
answer is actually, no CCC was *never* available for OS9.

I expect Disk Copy would do that as well, though I never tried it 
with hard drives, seeing that the Finder sufficed just fine.

But what about copying the system files?  I always ran into to 
trouble there when trying to mass restore like you are describing. 
Does copying the DT database in 9 cover that problem?

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Re: MAC OS9 Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
James G (Jim) Hardwick wrote:

But what about copying the system files?  I always ran into to trouble 
there when trying to mass restore like you are describing. Does copying 
the DT database in 9 cover that problem?
System files are copied by dragging the System folder over. I deal with 
desktop items by creating a new folder on the other drive, calling it 
old desktop stuff, and dragging files from the Desktop to there.

Aliases will have to be recreated, anyway, if you're switching over to 
the new drive. You don't need to worry about the desktop DB files, those 
will get recreated automatically by the System if needed, or you can 
force it by rebuilding the desktop.

You should not have run into problems doing this, I never have...what 
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Re: MAC OS9 Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-26 Thread Steve Kidd
On 26-Nov-03, at 11:39 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

Aliases will have to be recreated, anyway, if you're switching over to 
the new drive.
Might I recommend Skytag's File Buddy as a useful tool for reconnecting 
lost aliases, as well as the thousand other things it does for you... 
in OS 9 and in OS X.
No, I don't own stock in it, just a very impressed user.

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Re: MAC OS9 Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-26 Thread Illovox Media
on 11/26/03 11:39 AM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James G (Jim) Hardwick wrote:
 
 But what about copying the system files?  I always ran into to trouble
 there when trying to mass restore like you are describing. Does copying
 the DT database in 9 cover that problem?
 
 System files are copied by dragging the System folder over. I deal with
 desktop items by creating a new folder on the other drive, calling it
 old desktop stuff, and dragging files from the Desktop to there.
 
 Aliases will have to be recreated, anyway, if you're switching over to
 the new drive. You don't need to worry about the desktop DB files, those
 will get recreated automatically by the System if needed, or you can
 force it by rebuilding the desktop.
 
 You should not have run into problems doing this, I never have...what
 happened?


The problem is that system files are not blessed by simply dragging.  How do
you drag them and make it so they are blessed?

Run


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Re: MAC OS9 Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
Illovox Media wrote:

on 11/26/03 11:39 AM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


James G (Jim) Hardwick wrote:


But what about copying the system files?  I always ran into to trouble
there when trying to mass restore like you are describing. Does copying
the DT database in 9 cover that problem?
System files are copied by dragging the System folder over. I deal with
desktop items by creating a new folder on the other drive, calling it
old desktop stuff, and dragging files from the Desktop to there.
Aliases will have to be recreated, anyway, if you're switching over to
the new drive. You don't need to worry about the desktop DB files, those
will get recreated automatically by the System if needed, or you can
force it by rebuilding the desktop.
You should not have run into problems doing this, I never have...what
happened?


The problem is that system files are not blessed by simply dragging.  How do
you drag them and make it so they are blessed?
Drag the system file out of, and back into a system folder to bless it.

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Re: MAC OS9 Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-26 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 26/11/03 16:23, Illovox Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 11/26/03 11:39 AM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 James G (Jim) Hardwick wrote:
 
 But what about copying the system files?  I always ran into to trouble
 there when trying to mass restore like you are describing. Does copying
 the DT database in 9 cover that problem?
 
 System files are copied by dragging the System folder over. I deal with
 desktop items by creating a new folder on the other drive, calling it
 old desktop stuff, and dragging files from the Desktop to there.
 
 Aliases will have to be recreated, anyway, if you're switching over to
 the new drive. You don't need to worry about the desktop DB files, those
 will get recreated automatically by the System if needed, or you can
 force it by rebuilding the desktop.
 
 You should not have run into problems doing this, I never have...what
 happened?
 
 
 The problem is that system files are not blessed by simply dragging.  How do
 you drag them and make it so they are blessed?

I've seen cases where just opening the newly created System Folder in the
Finder would bless it. Now, if there are other system folders, then you
might have to move something out of those to unbless them, or there are
some utilities that will fix the blessed system folder.

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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-25 Thread Stuart Saunders
It seems that bombich.com (creators of Carbon Copy Cloner) might have 
gone to the great ISP in the sky. Have not been able to connect for 
some days now. Is CCC available elsewhere?

Also FYI, Panther has restored my Rev A iMac on which OS X was killed 
by 10.2.8. update. Panther seems very good so far. Soon to put on Pismo.

But still new windows in Mail and Safari open with scroll bar off right 
of screen  must be repositioned. Arrrgh!  Anyone know a cure?

TIA,
Stuart.
On Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003, at 04:30 Asia/Taipei, G-Books wrote:

Well, if you're running X on the iBook G3, you could boot the G4 in
target disk mode and use Carbon Copy Cloner.
Gary


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Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-25 Thread Gary Adams
I just went there. It's still there. Downloading another copy right now:

http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

Gary
On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 10:45  PM, Stuart Saunders wrote:
It seems that bombich.com (creators of Carbon Copy Cloner) might have 
gone to the great ISP in the sky. Have not been able to connect for 
some days now. Is CCC available elsewhere?



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MAC OS9 Re: Carbon Copy Cloner

2003-11-25 Thread James G (Jim) Hardwick
20031126
I just went there. It's still there. Downloading another copy right now:

http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html



Is CCC still available for OS 9.x.x?

Try not to laugh.

J

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