Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-14 Thread csean


On Sep 14, 2005, at 11:41 AM, G-Books wrote:

I changed the drive to a +/- superdrive (Pioneer DVR-K05) *and*  
installed

PatchBurn, and it will read + disks.

Without PatchBurn, it would only read - disks.

I believe it is more related to the system software's view of the  
drive's

capabilities than it is of the drive's capabilities themselves.

Before PatchBurn, the drive was not supported; after PatchBurn, it was
supported by vendor (but not by Apple), but nevertheless, it now  
will

read + disks, whereas before it wouldn't.


Okay, that's good news. But I wanted to clarify: does the Pioneer  
also BURN DVD+R disks? I think that may make a difference. The  
Superdrive in my 12 Al book does not burn DVD+R. It's the Matshita  
UJ-825.


Thanks.
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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-14 Thread PeterH5322

But I wanted to clarify: does the Pioneer  
also BURN DVD+R disks? I think that may make a difference. The  
Superdrive in my 12 Al book does not burn DVD+R. It's the Matshita  
UJ-825.

The Pioneer DVR-K05/K15 will indeed record [ * ] + DVDs.

The Panasonic (misnamed Matshita on account of certain SNAFUs in naming; 
should be Matsushita) drive which will record + DVDs is the UJ-845.

I have one of these, too.

I bought my UJ-845 for $105 from one if the usual suspects. One which 
has a hidden coupon which is exercisable at checkout. Otherwise, the 
drive would have been $120.

[ * ] For reasons I don't understand, perhaps marketing reasons alone, 
- media is called writeable/rewriteable, whereas + media is called 
recordable/rerecordable. I'm not sure there is really that much 
difference. However, I have noticed that with my set-top DVD recorder, - 
media does not need to be initialized (and its chapters cannot be edited 
before finalization), whereas + media MUST be initialized (and its 
chapters may be edited before finalization, but not afterwards). Strange.

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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-13 Thread csean






Quick question. I have a G4/1.33 12 with Superdrive. Would it read
DVD+R disks with movies burnt using DVD Recorder connected to TV?



Apple spec'd its drives before + media became popular, or perhaps even
available.

After I replaced my OEM DVD-CD-ROM drive with a generic DVD-CD-ROM- 
R-R/W
drive which included two-layer capability, I was surprised that  
none of

the Apple products would support + media, so for a while I was stuck
burning two disks: a + one for recorder/player playing, and a - one  
for

laptop playing.


Okay, thanks for all the info, but maybe I wasn't clear with my  
question, as a few people responded about internal superdrives in  
powerbooks. But I was asking about a DVD Recorder you hook up to your  
TV and, in my case, also to our satellite TV decoder box. I've found  
a great deal on a DVD recorder that burns to DVD+R and DVD+RW disks  
only (not to DVD-R). I know Macs tended to prefer DVD-R disks in the  
past, and I know my 12 G4/1.33 Al Book with Superdrive reads movies  
copied on DVD-R disks just fine.
I wanted to know if movies I recorded from the TV to DVD+R disks  
could be read okay on the Al Book. Oddly, I can't find the specs  
anywhere, so I was hoping to find someone who has actually done this  
and can provide the info from personal experience.


Thanks.
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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-13 Thread PeterH5322

I wanted to know if movies I recorded from the TV to DVD+R disks  
could be read okay on the Al Book. Oddly, I can't find the specs  
anywhere, so I was hoping to find someone who has actually done this  
and can provide the info from personal experience.

I changed the drive to a +/- superdrive (Pioneer DVR-K05) *and* installed 
PatchBurn, and it will read + disks.

Without PatchBurn, it would only read - disks.

I believe it is more related to the system software's view of the drive's 
capabilities than it is of the drive's capabilities themselves.

Before PatchBurn, the drive was not supported; after PatchBurn, it was 
supported by vendor (but not by Apple), but nevertheless, it now will 
read + disks, whereas before it wouldn't.

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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-13 Thread Steve Fuller
The SuperDrive installed in your powerbook will only read or write  
DVD-R or DVD-RW media. It will not read DVD+R or DVD+RW disks, no  
matter what type of device they were recorded on.


If you want to read +R or +RW disks on your powerbook, you will need  
to purchase an external drive that is capable of reading those disks,  
and connect it to your powerbook via USB or Firewire.


Steve

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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-13 Thread Steve Fuller
It appears the superdrive in the latest powerbooks will read/write +r  
and +rw disks


http://www.apple.com/powerbook/superdrive.html

Not sure if the 1.33 12 has that drive or not.

Steve

On Sep 13, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Steve Fuller wrote:

The SuperDrive installed in your powerbook will only read or write  
DVD-R or DVD-RW media. It will not read DVD+R or DVD+RW disks, no  
matter what type of device they were recorded on.


If you want to read +R or +RW disks on your powerbook, you will  
need to purchase an external drive that is capable of reading those  
disks, and connect it to your powerbook via USB or Firewire.


Steve

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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-13 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 13/09/05 18:24, Steve Fuller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It appears the superdrive in the latest powerbooks will read/write +r
 and +rw disks
 
 http://www.apple.com/powerbook/superdrive.html
 
 Not sure if the 1.33 12 has that drive or not.
 
 Steve
 
 On Sep 13, 2005, at 4:36 PM, Steve Fuller wrote:
 
 The SuperDrive installed in your powerbook will only read or write
 DVD-R or DVD-RW media. It will not read DVD+R or DVD+RW disks, no
 matter what type of device they were recorded on.
 
 If you want to read +R or +RW disks on your powerbook, you will
 need to purchase an external drive that is capable of reading those
 disks, and connect it to your powerbook via USB or Firewire.

My 17 1.5GHz does read and write +/- DVD disks...

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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-13 Thread Timothy Luoma


On Sep 7, 2005, at 6:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quick question. I have a G4/1.33 12 with Superdrive. Would it read  
DVD+R disks with movies burnt using DVD Recorder connected to TV?


I've checked the specs online and all it says is reads DVDs at up  
to 8x. Only the recent PBs mention reads DVD+R.
I was thinking of getting a Philips DVD Recorder that burns to DVD 
+R and +RW only. Great deal, but only if it works!


FYI my 1.5Ghz will play a DVD+RW that was burned on an RCA set-top.



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Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-07 Thread csean
Quick question. I have a G4/1.33 12 with Superdrive. Would it read  
DVD+R disks with movies burnt using DVD Recorder connected to TV?


I've checked the specs online and all it says is reads DVDs at up to  
8x. Only the recent PBs mention reads DVD+R.
I was thinking of getting a Philips DVD Recorder that burns to DVD+R  
and +RW only. Great deal, but only if it works!


Thanks.
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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-07 Thread PeterH5322

Quick question. I have a G4/1.33 12 with Superdrive. Would it read  
DVD+R disks with movies burnt using DVD Recorder connected to TV?

Apple spec'd its drives before + media became popular, or perhaps even 
available.

After I replaced my OEM DVD-CD-ROM drive with a generic DVD-CD-ROM-R-R/W 
drive which included two-layer capability, I was surprised that none of 
the Apple products would support + media, so for a while I was stuck 
burning two disks: a + one for recorder/player playing, and a - one for 
laptop playing.

Then I discovered PatchBurn, and it not only added my generic device to 
the list of acceptable devices, but it added + capability as well.

I don't burn DVDs for data storage, yet.

I would not be surprised to find that - media is supported for booting; 
while + and - media is only supported after booting and appropriately 
modified system.

One of my two two-layer drives is a Pioneer DVR-K05. Apparently the -K05 
is directly supported by 10.4, but not by 10.3, and I am a 10.3.9 user.

PatchBurn is necessary to add -K05 support to 10.3.

The other of my two two-layer drives is a Panasonic UJ-845. This is 
supported by neither, apparently, and it is necessary to run Patchburn 
for both 10.3 and 10.4.

Since I have two unsupported drives, one for my Lombard and one for my 
Pismo, I have to run PatchBurn twice in each machine, in order to have 
both drives supported by both machines.

Once PatchBurn has been run, the tables it adds are persistent until the 
next time the system is installed. Or, until you add a different, 
unsupported drive.

I had to run PatchBurn on my BW G3 in order to add Pioneer DVR-109 
support for 10.3.

It is mainly the i apps and burning from the Finder which is affected; 
Roxio products seem able to handle the unsupported drives just fine.

Now, I am able to standardize on + media alone, as all my machines have 
been PatchBurned to accept drives which support + media, and the systems 
has been patched to accept those drives which accept + media.

I suspect some early Apple DVD-CD-ROM drives don't accept burnable DVDs, 
+ or -.

My Wallstreet drive appears to be that way.

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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-07 Thread David Rodriguez
I was thinking of getting a Philips DVD Recorder that burns to DVD+R 
and +RW only. Great deal, but only if it works!


Thanks.
Chris


Chris,

I've sold lots of cdrw and some dvdrw drives over the last few years.  
If there is one brand I would suggest you stay away from, it is 
Phillips.  I have seen more failed Phillips drives then probably all 
others combined.  You can probably still go onto ebay and find bundles 
of 50 available for cheap.  Do yourself a favor and reconsider.  My 2ยข.


Dave


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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Sep 7, 2005, at 8:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Quick question. I have a G4/1.33 12 with Superdrive. Would it read
DVD+R disks with movies burnt using DVD Recorder connected to TV?



Apple spec'd its drives before + media became popular, or perhaps even
available.

After I replaced my OEM DVD-CD-ROM drive with a generic DVD-CD-ROM- 
R-R/W
drive which included two-layer capability, I was surprised that  
none of

the Apple products would support + media, so for a while I was stuck
burning two disks: a + one for recorder/player playing, and a - one  
for

laptop playing.


Why? - media has wider compatibility with DVD players, too. This is,  
in fact WHY Apple went to the - standard in the first place... the +  
format doesn't really offer anything; it's just another standard;  
it's not faster, disks aren't cheaper, it's not more compatible...it  
was just out marginally before the - standard. Most DVD player now  
play both formats, but you're going to have better luck playing -  
media on older drives.


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Re: Does AL powerbook read DVD+R disks?

2005-09-07 Thread PeterH5322

 I was thinking of getting a Philips DVD Recorder that burns to DVD+R 
 and +RW only. Great deal, but only if it works!


I've sold lots of cdrw and some dvdrw drives over the last few years.  
If there is one brand I would suggest you stay away from, it is 
Phillips.  I have seen more failed Phillips drives then probably all 
others combined.  You can probably still go onto ebay and find bundles 
of 50 available for cheap.  Do yourself a favor and reconsider.  My 2cents.

Try and get a drive which is natively supported by OS X or OS 9, or 
whatever you use.

The Pioneer DVR-K05 is supported natively by 10.4, and is supported 
through PatchBurn by 10.3.

Both my Panasonic UJ-845 and my Pioneer DVR-K05 have been great drives.

And, in my desktops, I use Pioneer DVR-106, -107 and -109 drives.

The -109 supports dual-layer; the -106 and -107 do not (but these do 
support + media).

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