OS upgrades
Hello, list. Could anyone tell me if the free Apple OS upgrades are available on CD? I have OS X 10.4 and want to upgrade to 10.4.5. Problem is that the upgrade is 124 MB and I have a dial-up connection. Software update informed me it would take from 12 to 18 hours to download. My spouse and I have separate computers and, to keep peace, I cannot tie up the phone line that long. Added to that, I have telephone lines that blow down a lot. I have searched the Apple site, but cannot find anywhere to purchase anything but the full OS. Thanks, Ken -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OS upgrades
On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Ken Neff wrote: Could anyone tell me if the free Apple OS upgrades are available on CD? I have OS X 10.4 and want to upgrade to 10.4.5. Problem is that the upgrade is 124 MB and I have a dial-up connection. Software update informed me it would take from 12 to 18 hours to download. My spouse and I have separate computers and, to keep peace, I cannot tie up the phone line that long. Added to that, I have telephone lines that blow down a lot. Ken, What I did for my daughter-in-law (also on dial up) was to download her update at my house. I'm on cable. It would have taken her 14 hours. It took me six minutes. It was an update for some sort of computerized sewing machine. I'm 800 miles away from her so I put it on a CD and sent it by snail mail. Just one solution, Woody Woody, Retired in Albuquerque mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping) http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html Ordering Address: PO Box 91703 Albuquerque, NM87199-1703 “The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.” from: “Art Fear” Woody's Watercolor Portfolio: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html Newest Fantastic Triplet Pics: http://www.taospaint.com/DancePics/Triplets.html My newest watercolors: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Recent.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OS upgrades
At 11:21 AM -0500 02/25/2006, Ken Neff wrote: Could anyone tell me if the free Apple OS upgrades are available on CD? upgrade is 124 MB and I have a dial-up connection. I donno if Apple offers them any more. Check with a local Apple dealer or Apple Store. They'll probably be willing to burn the updates for you. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OS upgrades
Quoth Ken Neff : Could anyone tell me if the free Apple OS upgrades are available on CD? I have OS X 10.4 and want to upgrade to 10.4.5. Problem is that the upgrade is 124 MB and I have a dial-up connection. Software update informed me it would take from 12 to 18 hours to download. My spouse and I have separate computers and, to keep peace, I cannot tie up the phone line that long. Added to that, I have telephone lines that blow down a lot. I have searched the Apple site, but cannot find anywhere to purchase anything but the full OS. You must have a friend, somewhere, with broadband. Back in the Dark Ages (before I got some high-speed at home), I'd routinely pack up my Cube and just take it over to a friend's house. We'd have some beer pizza, get the thing fully updated, and that'd be that. It's good to socialize, sometimes :) Cheers, A.J. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
OS upgrades SOLVED
Thanks for the kind offfers and advice. A wonderful list member has offered to burn it onto a cd for me. I hope I can return the favor someday. (As soon as I can get DSL in my neighboorhood.) Ken -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Hi, I don`t think any of the music is from the Apple Store... Aase :) If thats the law there, then thats the law there, and perhaps the music isnt from the Apple store at all, in which case any agreement with Apple would not exist... As for Tikkun Olam, its a term that has been used and abused for decades to justify all sorts of behavior that has nothing to do with actual Tikkun Olam. I havent read fully through every post on this, so if I missed where it said it was ALL from the Itunes store, then I apologize for butting in. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Tikkun olam = ??? Never heard/saw that expression... Regards, Mike K Seth Austen wrote: On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Tim Collier wrote: It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will continue my attempts at 'tikkun olam', but experience tells me that it's an uphill battle. G-books isn't the 1st place I'd expect to see mention of tikkun olam, but then again, it's likely needed here just as much as anywhere else. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Neither would most gentiles until you trigger a Google search on it. Al Poulin On Jan 20, 2005, kochkodin kochkodin@verizon.net wrote: Tikkun olam = ??? Never heard/saw that expression... Regards, Mike K Seth Austen wrote: On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Tim Collier wrote: It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will continue my attempts at 'tikkun olam', but experience tells me that it's an uphill battle. G-books isn't the 1st place I'd expect to see mention of tikkun olam, but then again, it's likely needed here just as much as anywhere else. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Tim Collier wrote: It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will continue my attempts at 'tikkun olam', but experience tells me that it's an uphill battle. G-books isn't the 1st place I'd expect to see mention of tikkun olam, but then again, it's likely needed here just as much as anywhere else. No comment on the legalities of downloaded music, however I'd like to point out that if musicians can't make a little money by selling their recordings, and it isn't cheap to produce the music, whether in one's own studio or a pro facility, sooner or later they aren't going to go through the hassle of making them anymore... Seth --- Seth Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sethausten.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
If thats the law there, then thats the law there, and perhaps the music isnt from the Apple store at all, in which case any agreement with Apple would not exist... As for Tikkun Olam, its a term that has been used and abused for decades to justify all sorts of behavior that has nothing to do with actual Tikkun Olam. I havent read fully through every post on this, so if I missed where it said it was ALL from the Itunes store, then I apologize for butting in. On Jan 19, 2005, at 07:52, Seth Austen wrote: On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Tim Collier wrote: It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will continue my attempts at 'tikkun olam', but experience tells me that it's an uphill battle. G-books isn't the 1st place I'd expect to see mention of tikkun olam, but then again, it's likely needed here just as much as anywhere else. No comment on the legalities of downloaded music, however I'd like to point out that if musicians can't make a little money by selling their recordings, and it isn't cheap to produce the music, whether in one's own studio or a pro facility, sooner or later they aren't going to go through the hassle of making them anymore... Seth --- Seth Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sethausten.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- - ICQ/AIM 5683738 Jason Rife From a wireless laptop to a wireless base station to a wireless internet service radiation, maybe??? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Well, another thing to consider is that any music downloaded off of iTunes Music Store won't be able to be accessed unless he keeps the former user's account. If the former owner is 'OK' with this then. But I doubt it. It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will continue my attempts at 'tikkun olam', but experience tells me that it's an uphill battle. Tim On 1/17/05 8:22 PM, Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original poster was asking for a solution to a technical issue, _not_ for moral guidance. There are situations where doing what he wants to do is legal, and situations where it isn't. Since we don't have enough information to determine which situation he's in, it seems prudent to let him decide. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 11:32, Tim Collier wrote: Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Tim -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)
What's the problem with multiple accounts? I'm using 8 at the moment (5 IMAP, 2 POP, and 1 Exchange) without any issues at all. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 00:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple's Email is a real workhorse with a few caveats: It doesn't play nice with multiple email accounts which is my biggest complaint. I used Eudora in my pre OS X days but it is long in the tooth and decidedly not an OS X application. david Can you have your accounts with all different settings, such as using different SMTP servers for different accounts, on Mail? Can you have accounts that are checked for new mail at 5, or 30 minute intervals, others that are checked when you click check mail, and others only on demand for that particular account? AFAIK, Mail cannot do that, nor can Thunderbird. Eudora is the only mail app that has that kind of flexibility. And as to it not being an OS X application, it is a Carbon application, like Photoshop or Word or GraphicConverter. Not Cocoa, but still very useful. I will be happy to be proved wrong and show other mail programs that can handle multiple accounts as well as Eudora does. Luis Sequeira -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)
Thus spoke Luis Sequeira [EMAIL PROTECTED]1/18/05 *Can you have your accounts with all different settings, such as using *different SMTP servers for different accounts, on Mail? * *Can you have accounts that are checked for new mail at 5, or 30 *minute intervals, others that are checked when you click check mail, *and others only on demand for that particular account? * *AFAIK, Mail cannot do that, nor can Thunderbird. Eudora is the only *mail app that has that kind of flexibility. And as to it not being an *OS X application, it is a Carbon application, like Photoshop or Word *or GraphicConverter. Not Cocoa, but still very useful. * *I will be happy to be proved wrong and show other mail programs that *can handle multiple accounts as well as Eudora does. Eudora has many strong qualities, and I've used it for a long time without any major issues until recently. If you need IMAP, then forget Eudora. If you like paying for bug fixes, then Eudora is for you. I know you can use Eudora for free with ads, but why support a company with a philosophy like that? Eudora's support team is absolutely horrible, especially for OS X users. I would use Mail, Mailsmith or even Gyazmail before I would ever consider going back to Eudora. sacredsystem -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)
On 18 Jan 2005, at 22:57, Luis Sequeira wrote: Can you have your accounts with all different settings, such as using different SMTP servers for different accounts, on Mail? Yes. And I do. Can you have accounts that are checked for new mail at 5, or 30 minute intervals, others that are checked when you click check mail, and others only on demand for that particular account? All my accounts are checked at 5 minute intervals, because in this day and age, checking for new mail slightly more often than strictly necessary doesn't affect internet performance in the slightest. We're talking about a total of a couple of hundred bytes each way to establish the connection, realise that there's nothing new, and close the connection. It's also possible disable automatic checking on a per-account basis, should the need arise. AFAIK, Mail cannot do that, nor can Thunderbird. Eudora is the only mail app that has that kind of flexibility. And as to it not being an OS X application, it is a Carbon application, like Photoshop or Word or GraphicConverter. Not Cocoa, but still very useful. I will be happy to be proved wrong and show other mail programs that can handle multiple accounts as well as Eudora does. Luis Sequeira At this stage, the only feature you've mentioned that Mail doesn't have (set automatic check intervals on a per-account basis) is entirely unnecessary for anyone with an internet connection faster than a 14.4k modem. Cheers, Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Yes indeed, you can change short names. Apple has a technical article for this, #106824. The MacAddict magazine, October '04 issue carried the same info. Also, there is something you can download from VersionTracker called ChangeShortName, but read the disclaimers first, something about leaving the old Home Page visible. On Jan 17, 2005, Nancy Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you can change user short names, but you have to let someone do it who really knows what they're doing. The tech guy at my school did it for me when I bought my used Pismo. On Jan 17, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi Ben, The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. Oooh... :) I just assumed it had to mean that some password had been entered, like it usually has been with other things... I guess that is what they want you to think... You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be changed once set. Too bad... It would make a lot of things easier. iTunes is set so that you have to enter his user name to access it. I guess it can be moved to my user account, but... The obvious easy solution would be to just change the account name and all would be OK, if it weren't for the other challenges, that is... Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)
At this stage, the only feature you've mentioned that Mail doesn't have (set automatic check intervals on a per-account basis) is entirely unnecessary for anyone with an internet connection faster than a 14.4k modem. Cheers, Ben I (almost) stand corrected. You're right that having different intervals on a per-account basis is not terribly important. I would gladly switch to Mail... now I tried it and it imported all my mail from Eudora quite nicely. Good. It appears to do almost everything I need. It does not import my accounts (personalities in Eudora parlance), but I can remake them. Not a big deal, I have currently 10. I can select, on a per-account basis, whether to check mail automatically. What I can't seem to do is to check mail for a specific account, or set of accounts, individually. Let be more specific: I have a few accounts for specific purposes that are not used daily. In Eudora, I can have these set up so that Check mail does not check these accounts. One, for example, is an backup account with a free ISP that only allows POP when using one of their modem connections. I want to be able to keep this account accessible but disabled, in the sense that manually selecting the Check mail command does not try to check mail from this account. I don't find any way to achieve this. Now in Eudora I can leave the check box check mail on manual checks unchecked and, when needed, bring up the personalities pane, select this (and possibly others) personality and hit the check mail button, thus checking mail for this personality, while the regular check mail does not affect it. Can I have this sort of functionality in Mail? I would love to. Luis Sequeira -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
I applaud Tim for making his point in the first place. It is a valid one. On Jan 17, 2005, Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, read your own sig file and rethink that comment. Tim On 1/17/05 7:49 PM, Peter Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a new year. Let's not go down that what's-illegal-what's-legal road again. At 7:32 PM -0500 1/17/05, Tim Collier wrote: Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Tim Skinny Butt During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell, writer (1903-1950) --Exterminate all rational thought. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
It's a new year. Let's not go down that what's-illegal-what's-legal road again. At 7:32 PM -0500 1/17/05, Tim Collier wrote: Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Tim Skinny Butt During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell, writer (1903-1950) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)
Good point -- I don't think there's any way of getting Mail to do that other than manually taking accounts offline, then bringing them back online when you want to check them. Cheers, Ben On 19 Jan 2005, at 03:36, Luis Sequeira wrote: I (almost) stand corrected. You're right that having different intervals on a per-account basis is not terribly important. I would gladly switch to Mail... now I tried it and it imported all my mail from Eudora quite nicely. Good. It appears to do almost everything I need. It does not import my accounts (personalities in Eudora parlance), but I can remake them. Not a big deal, I have currently 10. I can select, on a per-account basis, whether to check mail automatically. What I can't seem to do is to check mail for a specific account, or set of accounts, individually. Let be more specific: I have a few accounts for specific purposes that are not used daily. In Eudora, I can have these set up so that Check mail does not check these accounts. One, for example, is an backup account with a free ISP that only allows POP when using one of their modem connections. I want to be able to keep this account accessible but disabled, in the sense that manually selecting the Check mail command does not try to check mail from this account. I don't find any way to achieve this. Now in Eudora I can leave the check box check mail on manual checks unchecked and, when needed, bring up the personalities pane, select this (and possibly others) personality and hit the check mail button, thus checking mail for this personality, while the regular check mail does not affect it. Can I have this sort of functionality in Mail? I would love to. Luis Sequeira -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Hi Tim, This is sort of a test too, because my last mail bounced, saying that my domain was black-listed... Please read my other mail, Tim. And to address specifically what you are saying... The system and software that is on this computer, is now mine. We are just talking about what came with this computer. I got all original CD`s, papers etc. that came with it too. The only additional thing that came with the computer, was the music he had collected. He asked me if I wanted it, and I said yes. Of course I could have chosen to say no and started downloading it all over again. But that really does not make much sense to do. You probably did not notice that I do not live in the US, since you are telling me what is right according to US law... But I don`t live in the US, I live in Norway - and I follow Norwegian law, which is very different than yours on this. If I deleted iTunes and started downloading it all over again, I would still be following Norwegian law. I only own one copy of this music, and I am not breaking any law. So I consider this music as mine, and I have my full rights to do so. The case would have been different if I lived in the United States of America, but I only have to relate to US law when I am in the US, just as you have to relate to Norwegian law if you visit our country... It might as well have been the other way around, meaning that if something is forbidden by law here, I can`t just assume that the same goes for you guys that live in the US... E.g. I think it is really horrendous that people dock tails and ears on dogs, and if somebody does it here, they would be in real trouble, it has been forbidden by law since 1981. Everybody here agree that it is a violation of animal rights to do so, it is considered as abuse and inflicting needless pain and suffering onto an innocent animal. I have been on a lot of International dog mailing lists over the years, and this issue comes up all the time. You bet I really feel like speaking up, telling how this issue is seen here in Norway and how I feel about it. But I just can`t push that belief on the US participants, or US friends when I visit the US, for that matter. I just have to respect that you follow your customs and legislation, and in the US this is still allowed. It is just one of these things you have to draw a line on, I think. I don`t like everything that is considered right in other countries, and people in other countries of course don`t like everything that we consider right. But, if you really don`t know, a simple question most often clears it up real quickly... Just my NOK 0.50 worth... :) Aase :) Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Hi all, I have not got to reading the other mails, been too busy today. But I see that obviously has been some discussion, and I just feel compelled to make one thing clear... I see that Ben pointed out one thing, you guys don`t know which situation I am in. Ben - you are so correct! :) (and BTW, I am a she:) - Aw-Seh) I live in Norway, and my obligation is to follow Norwegian laws. According to the big red law book which I actually own copies of, we are here allowed to own 1 copy of music etc. for our own use. If you however choose to make copies to sell or distribute, then you are breaking the law. That we still have this legislation here, has been subject to a lot of discussion, but the law still says this, and I really don`t think it will be changed anytime soon... Actually I just read a long article about it, and there is no disagreement when it comes to interpreting this law, it is crystal clear (I promise you, the record companies do not like this one bit). Bottom line - as a Norwegian citizen, keeping one copy for myself of whatever it is in iTunes, is completely legal. I am fully aware of the fact that the laws says otherwise e.g. in the US, but I really don`t have any obligation towards US law except for when I am there... :) So, to be honest, I really don`t feel bad about enjoying this music when I know that according to the legislation I have to relate to - I am not doing anything wrong, and I hope that you guys can understand that. I must say though, I was really disappointed to find out that iTunes Music Store is not available for us here. I would love to use it, and download music to enjoy. I figured that I could just access it e.g. in the US, but I just get a window saying that it is not available in my country... Again, I appreciate all your help and input on the issues I need help with!!! This time I however think one point was proved, that things aren`t always as they seem... :) Have a nice evening! Here it is getting late, so it is time to hit the sack... I will be back tomorrow to really read your postings! Until then - take care! Aase :) Well, another thing to consider is that any music downloaded off of iTunes Music Store won't be able to be accessed unless he keeps the former user's account. If the former owner is 'OK' with this then. But I doubt it. It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will continue my attempts at 'tikkun olam', but experience tells me that it's an uphill battle. Tim On 1/17/05 8:22 PM, Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original poster was asking for a solution to a technical issue, _not_ for moral guidance. There are situations where doing what he wants to do is legal, and situations where it isn't. Since we don't have enough information to determine which situation he's in, it seems prudent to let him decide. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 11:32, Tim Collier wrote: Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Tim -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Hi again Nancy, I guess I will have to learn to hold my hands in a slightly different position... I think it really got a lot more sensitive because I have a fever at the moment. I tried earlier, and I really don`t have to physically touch the track pad... It is really annoying, because i type real fast, so before I am able to react, I have sometimes not only to another place, but also managed to select and remove something... If it gets real problematic, I will just have to try to cut a piece of plastic or something to put on top of it, but that is really not an ideal solution, having to remove it to use the track pad etc. Maybe I should ask Apple about it, if they have some ideas on how to deal with it... Did you ever do that? The whole keyboard and the mouse button are also very different than the Pismo, I think. But I remember feeling that way when I got the Pismo as well, so I guess it is much a matter of getting used to it. But the track pad problem is really annoying. I just selected and deleted most of this pharagraph. Seconds later I typed a word in the paragraph above, before I just now suddenly was typing in the sentence above then a few seconds later moved back a few characters... I think things happened maybe 6-7 times just during this paragraph... That is a bit much... I hadn`t got to doing anything about the keyboard set-up yet, but stumbled u pon it while using a program earlier, I saw the US flag showing in the menu. So I went to explore, and a little while later, I was typing touch as i always did. I just have to resist looking down at all, because I then suddenly doubt where things are. I got a keyboard ordered though, so I hope it arrives fast. I just have to find somebody to install it. A Mac dealer I know told me on the phone though that changing the keyboard wouldn`t affect AppleCare, but I should check whether it can affect it if I don`t use an authorized Apple workshop to do it for me. I got it ordered from a place out of town, so I can`t get them to do it. Another place I checked with, said they couldn`t just order and sell it to me unless I delivered them the computer for them to install it. I am sure that either my boss or my nephew (who has formal training in such things) can do it though, but I just want to be sure that I don`t get any problems. I would like not having to pay hours for doing it though, as the labor is real expensive here, and I already used a bit too much... Oh well, I`ll soon enough find out... Thanks again for your help!!! Aase :) (Aw-Seh, not Ace, even if some of my US friends call me that because they just can`t say my name) Aase--FWIW, the jumpiness of the trackpad on my ibook is something I'm still not used to, especially compared to my Pismo. I've fiddled with the settings on it and it doesn't seem to help, so I guess it's just something I'm stuck with. Enjoy your new 'book! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Hi, I am still very new to OS X, I have just tried it a bit, but can't wait to really try out it's stability!!! I see that Tiger has been mentioned, and some obviously wait buying a new 'Book in order to get Tiger into the deal. Do you know what will be the difference to the current OS (Panther?). I see that many upgrade their system all the time. I haven't done that over the years, just occasionally, when I really have needed to, e.g. because of software, or I have got an upgrade with a new PB. For those of us that use our 'Book for every day use (in my case: Lots of net/mail, word processing, some image/graphics stuff and a bit of web design), does it pay off to jump on the upgrade carousel? How much of a difference does it normally make? Right now, how much of a difference is expected with Tiger compared to Panther? I used to use Netscape for a browser, but ended out having a lot of trouble with it, so I changed to IE. In IE I appreciate features like the Auction Manager (even if it is not very stabile, it suddenly empties itself into Auction Fav's), but there are clearly things I miss, e.g. being able to manage the bookmarks better. I once, years ago, tried Opera on a PC, and joined the Opera Project Magic in order to get them to make a Mac compatible browser. I tried installing a beta quite maybe a year ago, but it didn't work out on my Pismo. I don't know how the OS X version is, do any of you use it? How about Apple's Safari? How does Netscape work with OS X? I am wondering what you guys use, and how happy you are with the different options the browsers have. Do you guys know of some additional application which work great in combo with any browser to manage auctions (eBay etc.)? For a mail reader, I have used Eudora Pro (with ads) the past few years. I don't know if I should go for that on the new iBook. Can I import the mailboxes, address book etc. from the sys 9.2 PB to the new one? What do you guys use, and what do you think is the advantages with it. Whatever I use has to have simple filter options, possibility for multiple accounts, search possibilities etc. For news, which I don't use often anymore though, I have used MacSOUP. When I chose it, it was much because it was the only decent offline reader for the Mac. But since I got broadband via cable, I guess I have more possibilities... Any ideas? Any input is appreciated!!! Thanks a lot!!! Aase :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
On 1/17/05 7:51 AM, Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am still very new to OS X, I have just tried it a bit, but can't wait to really try out it's stability!!! I see that Tiger has been mentioned, and some obviously wait buying a new 'Book in order to get Tiger into the deal. Do you know what will be the difference to the current OS (Panther?). Tiger is listed for Q2 2005 which could mean as early as April and as late as June. That's a pretty long wait for a new 'Book - at least for me. For all the differences between Panther and Tiger check out Apple's website. I could write a small book about the differences. I see that many upgrade their system all the time. I haven't done that over the years, just occasionally, when I really have needed to, e.g. because of software, or I have got an upgrade with a new PB. For those of us that use our 'Book for every day use (in my case: Lots of net/mail, word processing, some image/graphics stuff and a bit of web design), does it pay off to jump on the upgrade carousel? How much of a difference does it normally make? Right now, how much of a difference is expected with Tiger compared to Panther? Some upgrades are more important than others. I came to the Mac with System 6 and switched to OS 7 quickly. While it was a beneficial upgrade I learned an important lesson: Avoid X.0 upgrades. I upgraded to 7.5, 8.5 and 9.1 letting others deal with the adventure of early adoption and incompatible software. However I did jump into OS X with the first commercial release and I've bought each upgrade immediately without regret. Panther is an extremely stable OS beginning to show maturity and polish so I *could* stick with it but I'll probably jump to Tiger when it is released. I used to use Netscape for a browser, but ended out having a lot of trouble with it, so I changed to IE. In IE I appreciate features like the Auction Manager (even if it is not very stabile, it suddenly empties itself into Auction Fav's), but there are clearly things I miss, e.g. being able to manage the bookmarks better. I once, years ago, tried Opera on a PC, and joined the Opera Project Magic in order to get them to make a Mac compatible browser. I tried installing a beta quite maybe a year ago, but it didn't work out on my Pismo. I don't know how the OS X version is, do any of you use it? How about Apple's Safari? How does Netscape work with OS X? I am wondering what you guys use, and how happy you are with the different options the browsers have. Do you guys know of some additional application which work great in combo with any browser to manage auctions (eBay etc.)? Netscape is dead: long live Safari, FireFox and Camino. I used to use Opera in Windows but I've switched to FireFox there. Opera on the Mac never did it for me. For a mail reader, I have used Eudora Pro (with ads) the past few years. I don't know if I should go for that on the new iBook. Can I import the mailboxes, address book etc. from the sys 9.2 PB to the new one? What do you guys use, and what do you think is the advantages with it. Whatever I use has to have simple filter options, possibility for multiple accounts, search possibilities etc. Apple's Email is a real workhorse with a few caveats: It doesn't play nice with multiple email accounts which is my biggest complaint. I used Eudora in my pre OS X days but it is long in the tooth and decidedly not an OS X application. For news, which I don't use often anymore though, I have used MacSOUP. When I chose it, it was much because it was the only decent offline reader for the Mac. But since I got broadband via cable, I guess I have more possibilities... Any ideas? MacSoup is still around and a decent enough news-reader. I'm using Unison. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
What's the problem with multiple accounts? I'm using 8 at the moment (5 IMAP, 2 POP, and 1 Exchange) without any issues at all. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 00:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple's Email is a real workhorse with a few caveats: It doesn't play nice with multiple email accounts which is my biggest complaint. I used Eudora in my pre OS X days but it is long in the tooth and decidedly not an OS X application. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Hi David, WOW... Thanks a lot for your input! This is really great, very useful for me... You even mentioned several programs I never even heard of... Now I have something to look into, helps a lot!!! I will take a look at these, and also at the Apple mail reader. Maybe I can use it. I would have to get it to work with multiple accounts though... At the moment I am waiting for a support call from my ISP. I tried to set up my net connection, but didn't get it to work. I have no idea why. It seems like the CD I have sitting here as well as the manual, is real old though, and certainly not made to help you set it up in OS X. But I should be able to get on line without their software running though. I hope they can help me, they have better Mac support than any other ISP I had before... It is probably just some stupid little thing. The guy who had the iBook for a little while, said he hadn't set any passwords. It seems a bit funny though, because when I look at his account, there are 7 dots, as if he has entered a password. I don't know why it is not just showing a blank field if he didn't enter a password. I am wondering if I, instead of having to load iTunes (which I want to keep) onto another disk and re-install the system, just could have changed his account to my name. There's something else that is odd too though. I changed the language from french which he used, to Norwegian. But when I am trying to quit, I get a window with french language. I have no idea what it means, and since I am not familiar with OS X to begin with, it really doesn't make any sense. Do any of you know how I could get it to change the language all the way through? Or maybe it would be best to just re-install and be sure that everything is OK... Aase :) Tiger is listed for Q2 2005 which could mean as early as April and as late as June. That's a pretty long wait for a new 'Book - at least for me. For all the differences between Panther and Tiger check out Apple's website. I could write a small book about the differences. Some upgrades are more important than others. I came to the Mac with System 6 and switched to OS 7 quickly. While it was a beneficial upgrade I learned an important lesson: Avoid X.0 upgrades. I upgraded to 7.5, 8.5 and 9.1 letting others deal with the adventure of early adoption and incompatible software. However I did jump into OS X with the first commercial release and I've bought each upgrade immediately without regret. Panther is an extremely stable OS beginning to show maturity and polish so I *could* stick with it but I'll probably jump to Tiger when it is released. Netscape is dead: long live Safari, FireFox and Camino. I used to use Opera in Windows but I've switched to FireFox there. Opera on the Mac never did it for me. Apple's Email is a real workhorse with a few caveats: It doesn't play nice with multiple email accounts which is my biggest complaint. I used Eudora in my pre OS X days but it is long in the tooth and decidedly not an OS X application. MacSoup is still around and a decent enough news-reader. I'm using Unison. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be changed once set. Language changes don't take full effect until you log out and back in again (or until you quit all open applications, including the Finder and some system services). If you've done that, and some applications still use the wrong language, they may not have Norwegian localisations. Since you speak English, you should drag English into second place in the Languages preference pane. This will force every app that doesn't support Norwegian to use English instead. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 01:49, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi David, The guy who had the iBook for a little while, said he hadn't set any passwords. It seems a bit funny though, because when I look at his account, there are 7 dots, as if he has entered a password. I don't know why it is not just showing a blank field if he didn't enter a password. I am wondering if I, instead of having to load iTunes (which I want to keep) onto another disk and re-install the system, just could have changed his account to my name. There's something else that is odd too though. I changed the language from french which he used, to Norwegian. But when I am trying to quit, I get a window with french language. I have no idea what it means, and since I am not familiar with OS X to begin with, it really doesn't make any sense. Do any of you know how I could get it to change the language all the way through? Or maybe it would be best to just re-install and be sure that everything is OK... Aase :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice
Hi Ben, The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. Oooh... :) I just assumed it had to mean that some password had been entered, like it usually has been with other things... I guess that is what they want you to think... You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be changed once set. Too bad... It would make a lot of things easier. iTunes is set so that you have to enter his user name to access it. I guess it can be moved to my user account, but... The obvious easy solution would be to just change the account name and all would be OK, if it weren't for the other challenges, that is... Language changes don't take full effect until you log out and back in again (or until you quit all open applications, including the Finder and some system services). If you've done that, and some applications still use the wrong language, they may not have Norwegian localisations. Since you speak English, you should drag English into second place in the Languages preference pane. This will force every app that doesn't support Norwegian to use English instead. Changing to English as second, then Swedish and Danish (which I can read) as third and fourth, was the first thing I did. I thought I had logged out and back in, but to be sure, I first double checked the language preference panel, and logged out again and re-started. When it started up, it showed french during the start-up. Then when I tried to log out again, it still showed french. I really can't imagine that it wouldn't show these basic things in Norwegian, all other OS's has done in the past. I just don't get why I can't get rid of it... Maybe the only choice I have, is to start over again. Hmmm... If I load iTunes and it's contents over to an external HD, re-install the system etc., and load it back, would I be able to access it? Then I won't have the account with the previous owner's name anymore, the one which I have to enter now to be able to access iTunes... Maybe I am forced to move the library first? I have no idea how I can do that, not being used to OS X (or different accounts in general), but I am sure it can't be all that difficult. Can you change the settings for iTunes, so that it becomes available from all accounts? Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it!!! Aase :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 18 Jan 2005, at 02:15, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Changing to English as second, then Swedish and Danish (which I can read) as third and fourth, was the first thing I did. I thought I had logged out and back in, but to be sure, I first double checked the language preference panel, and logged out again and re-started. When it started up, it showed french during the start-up. Then when I tried to log out again, it still showed french. I really can't imagine that it wouldn't show these basic things in Norwegian, all other OS's has done in the past. I just don't get why I can't get rid of it... Maybe the only choice I have, is to start over again. Strange. Is the menu bar still in French as well? Note that languages are handled per-account, so changing them in one account won't change them for others. Hmmm... If I load iTunes and it's contents over to an external HD, re-install the system etc., and load it back, would I be able to access it? Then I won't have the account with the previous owner's name anymore, the one which I have to enter now to be able to access iTunes... Maybe I am forced to move the library first? I have no idea how I can do that, not being used to OS X (or different accounts in general), but I am sure it can't be all that difficult. Can you change the settings for iTunes, so that it becomes available from all accounts? There are a couple of things you can do. Firstly, you can copy his iTunes music (normally in Users/[username]/Music/iTunes) out of his user folder (for instance, you could drag it to the root level of the hard drive). This means that even if you delete his user account, the music will stay. Then, for each account you want to use that music library in, go to iTunesPreferencesAdvanced, and click Change Navigate to wherever you put the music folder, and click Choose. Alternatively, if you only want the music in one account, you can simply move the Users/[username]/Music/iTunes folder to the Music folder of a different user account. Cheers, Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Hi Ben, Thanks a lot for your advice!!! I am going to forward it to work, I am taking my iBook with me tomorrow to do things there, borrowing my boss' external HDD. I actually bought an external HDD myself, a Freecom Classic 80GB one. My boss told me that I could just buy any USB HDD, and there was a great offer at the time, so I jumped on it. But it doesn't seem to work, it doesn't appear on the desktop. The CD didn't have any drivers for it either. How fun... I was sort of hoping that it had to do with Sys 9.2, but when I tried connecting it to the iBook, nothing happened then either. I did mail the company's support back when I bought it this fall, and explained what happened and not, and got a mail back asking what happens, as if they had not read my mail at all. I was real busy at the time and sick too, so I didn't get back to them. I really should get back to the issue, because it would be great for back-up etc. Since I read about it on their web site and saw no mentioning of Mac compatibility, I asked them if the case was that it wouldn't work with a Mac at all, but they didn't mention that at all, so maybe there is hope if I get a driver that I can use? When it didn't work, I went online and read a bit here and there, and it is really my impression that it isn't as easy as my boss told me, that not all USB HDD's automatically will work on a Mac, but of course, maybe I am wrong? Oh my... I did it again. I came to think of another thing, and just spill it out. I guess I should start another thread instead of doing this... I promise to shape up!!! :) This list is really great!!! Too bad I didn't find it years ago... Take care! Aase :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Actually, you can change user short names, but you have to let someone do it who really knows what they're doing. The tech guy at my school did it for me when I bought my used Pismo. On Jan 17, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi Ben, The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. Oooh... :) I just assumed it had to mean that some password had been entered, like it usually has been with other things... I guess that is what they want you to think... You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be changed once set. Too bad... It would make a lot of things easier. iTunes is set so that you have to enter his user name to access it. I guess it can be moved to my user account, but... The obvious easy solution would be to just change the account name and all would be OK, if it weren't for the other challenges, that is... Language changes don't take full effect until you log out and back in again (or until you quit all open applications, including the Finder and some system services). If you've done that, and some applications still use the wrong language, they may not have Norwegian localisations. Since you speak English, you should drag English into second place in the Languages preference pane. This will force every app that doesn't support Norwegian to use English instead. Changing to English as second, then Swedish and Danish (which I can read) as third and fourth, was the first thing I did. I thought I had logged out and back in, but to be sure, I first double checked the language preference panel, and logged out again and re-started. When it started up, it showed french during the start-up. Then when I tried to log out again, it still showed french. I really can't imagine that it wouldn't show these basic things in Norwegian, all other OS's has done in the past. I just don't get why I can't get rid of it... Maybe the only choice I have, is to start over again. Hmmm... If I load iTunes and it's contents over to an external HD, re-install the system etc., and load it back, would I be able to access it? Then I won't have the account with the previous owner's name anymore, the one which I have to enter now to be able to access iTunes... Maybe I am forced to move the library first? I have no idea how I can do that, not being used to OS X (or different accounts in general), but I am sure it can't be all that difficult. Can you change the settings for iTunes, so that it becomes available from all accounts? Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it!!! Aase :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Hi Nancy, Thanks a lot! I don`t know if I have anybody who can do that. My best bet is probably just to start over... We`ll just have to transfer all the music, I just can`t lose 35 Gigs of music... One big thing just happened though... I am now typing on my new iBook... Got it set up in a flash... I didn`t get it to work because of a little, super silly mistake! That is how it often is, I think, I just assume that it is much more serious and difficult than it is... How super-neat to be on though!!! I am having some problems while typing though, even if I don`t touch the track pad properly, the cursor suddenly moves. The same thing happens at work when I have a fever, and actually I do have one now, so maybe the same thing is happening with this track pad. The one on the Pismo isn`t that sensitive... Right now I really want to go and start downloading stuff, but I guess I will have to wait until tomorrow, after we have re-installed the OS... I must say, even if it is odd with a smaller screen, I love the colors and all on this new one. It is really clear... Thanks again! I am afraid that I will be bugging you guys a lot in the near future... Aase :) På 17. jan. 2005 kl. 21:39 skrev Nancy Lawrence: Actually, you can change user short names, but you have to let someone do it who really knows what they're doing. The tech guy at my school did it for me when I bought my used Pismo. On Jan 17, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi Ben, The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. Oooh... :) I just assumed it had to mean that some password had been entered, like it usually has been with other things... I guess that is what they want you to think... You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be changed once set. Too bad... It would make a lot of things easier. iTunes is set so that you have to enter his user name to access it. I guess it can be moved to my user account, but... The obvious easy solution would be to just change the account name and all would be OK, if it weren't for the other challenges, that is... Language changes don't take full effect until you log out and back in again (or until you quit all open applications, including the Finder and some system services). If you've done that, and some applications still use the wrong language, they may not have Norwegian localisations. Since you speak English, you should drag English into second place in the Languages preference pane. This will force every app that doesn't support Norwegian to use English instead. Changing to English as second, then Swedish and Danish (which I can read) as third and fourth, was the first thing I did. I thought I had logged out and back in, but to be sure, I first double checked the language preference panel, and logged out again and re-started. When it started up, it showed french during the start-up. Then when I tried to log out again, it still showed french. I really can't imagine that it wouldn't show these basic things in Norwegian, all other OS's has done in the past. I just don't get why I can't get rid of it... Maybe the only choice I have, is to start over again. Hmmm... If I load iTunes and it's contents over to an external HD, re-install the system etc., and load it back, would I be able to access it? Then I won't have the account with the previous owner's name anymore, the one which I have to enter now to be able to access iTunes... Maybe I am forced to move the library first? I have no idea how I can do that, not being used to OS X (or different accounts in general), but I am sure it can't be all that difficult. Can you change the settings for iTunes, so that it becomes available from all accounts? Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it!!! Aase :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our
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On 1/17/05 10:01 AM, Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be changed once set. Not true. I've done it. See the article in October 2004 MacAddict, page 72. Of course the original poster states that he is new to OS X and sending him into the terminal is probably not a good idea. Another option is to create a new user Account with Admin privileges and then delete the previous account. Also, the previous owner of the laptop HAD to have set a password on the accountit's probably just set to logon automatically. Remember, this is OS X, not OS 9. Tim Language changes don't take full effect until you log out and back in again (or until you quit all open applications, including the Finder and some system services). If you've done that, and some applications still use the wrong language, they may not have Norwegian localisations. Since you speak English, you should drag English into second place in the Languages preference pane. This will force every app that doesn't support Norwegian to use English instead. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 01:49, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi David, The guy who had the iBook for a little while, said he hadn't set any passwords. It seems a bit funny though, because when I look at his account, there are 7 dots, as if he has entered a password. I don't know why it is not just showing a blank field if he didn't enter a password. I am wondering if I, instead of having to load iTunes (which I want to keep) onto another disk and re-install the system, just could have changed his account to my name. There's something else that is odd too though. I changed the language from french which he used, to Norwegian. But when I am trying to quit, I get a window with french language. I have no idea what it means, and since I am not familiar with OS X to begin with, it really doesn't make any sense. Do any of you know how I could get it to change the language all the way through? Or maybe it would be best to just re-install and be sure that everything is OK... Aase :) -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Tim On 1/17/05 10:34 AM, Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a couple of things you can do. Firstly, you can copy his iTunes music (normally in Users/[username]/Music/iTunes) out of his user folder (for instance, you could drag it to the root level of the hard drive). This means that even if you delete his user account, the music will stay. Then, for each account you want to use that music library in, go to iTunesPreferencesAdvanced, and click Change Navigate to wherever you put the music folder, and click Choose. Alternatively, if you only want the music in one account, you can simply move the Users/[username]/Music/iTunes folder to the Music folder of a different user account. Cheers, Ben -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Which, I point out again, isn't yours. Tim On 1/17/05 4:10 PM, Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We`ll just have to transfer all the music, I just can`t lose 35 Gigs of music... -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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It's a new year. Let's not go down that what's-illegal-what's-legal road again. At 7:32 PM -0500 1/17/05, Tim Collier wrote: Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Tim Skinny Butt During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell, writer (1903-1950) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Peter, read your own sig file and rethink that comment. Tim On 1/17/05 7:49 PM, Peter Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a new year. Let's not go down that what's-illegal-what's-legal road again. At 7:32 PM -0500 1/17/05, Tim Collier wrote: Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Tim Skinny Butt During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell, writer (1903-1950) -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Perhaps I should have specified from within System Preferences. If you want to give him instructions for screwing around with NetInfo, be my guest ;-) OS X doesn't force you to use a password. My account is the only one on this iBook, and I can remove my password completely just fine. It's a really, really bad idea, but Apple does give you the choice. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 11:23, Tim Collier wrote: On 1/17/05 10:01 AM, Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be changed once set. Not true. I've done it. See the article in October 2004 MacAddict, page 72. Of course the original poster states that he is new to OS X and sending him into the terminal is probably not a good idea. Another option is to create a new user Account with Admin privileges and then delete the previous account. Also, the previous owner of the laptop HAD to have set a password on the accountit's probably just set to logon automatically. Remember, this is OS X, not OS 9. Tim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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The original poster was asking for a solution to a technical issue, _not_ for moral guidance. There are situations where doing what he wants to do is legal, and situations where it isn't. Since we don't have enough information to determine which situation he's in, it seems prudent to let him decide. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 11:32, Tim Collier wrote: Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Tim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Aase--FWIW, the jumpiness of the trackpad on my ibook is something I'm still not used to, especially compared to my Pismo. I've fiddled with the settings on it and it doesn't seem to help, so I guess it's just something I'm stuck with. Enjoy your new 'book! On Jan 17, 2005, at 4:10 PM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi Nancy, Thanks a lot! I don`t know if I have anybody who can do that. My best bet is probably just to start over... We`ll just have to transfer all the music, I just can`t lose 35 Gigs of music... One big thing just happened though... I am now typing on my new iBook... Got it set up in a flash... I didn`t get it to work because of a little, super silly mistake! That is how it often is, I think, I just assume that it is much more serious and difficult than it is... How super-neat to be on though!!! I am having some problems while typing though, even if I don`t touch the track pad properly, the cursor suddenly moves. The same thing happens at work when I have a fever, and actually I do have one now, so maybe the same thing is happening with this track pad. The one on the Pismo isn`t that sensitive... Right now I really want to go and start downloading stuff, but I guess I will have to wait until tomorrow, after we have re-installed the OS... I must say, even if it is odd with a smaller screen, I love the colors and all on this new one. It is really clear... Thanks again! I am afraid that I will be bugging you guys a lot in the near future... Aase :) På 17. jan. 2005 kl. 21:39 skrev Nancy Lawrence: Actually, you can change user short names, but you have to let someone do it who really knows what they're doing. The tech guy at my school did it for me when I bought my used Pismo. On Jan 17, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi Ben, The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. Oooh... :) I just assumed it had to mean that some password had been entered, like it usually has been with other things... I guess that is what they want you to think... You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be changed once set. Too bad... It would make a lot of things easier. iTunes is set so that you have to enter his user name to access it. I guess it can be moved to my user account, but... The obvious easy solution would be to just change the account name and all would be OK, if it weren't for the other challenges, that is... Language changes don't take full effect until you log out and back in again (or until you quit all open applications, including the Finder and some system services). If you've done that, and some applications still use the wrong language, they may not have Norwegian localisations. Since you speak English, you should drag English into second place in the Languages preference pane. This will force every app that doesn't support Norwegian to use English instead. Changing to English as second, then Swedish and Danish (which I can read) as third and fourth, was the first thing I did. I thought I had logged out and back in, but to be sure, I first double checked the language preference panel, and logged out again and re-started. When it started up, it showed french during the start-up. Then when I tried to log out again, it still showed french. I really can't imagine that it wouldn't show these basic things in Norwegian, all other OS's has done in the past. I just don't get why I can't get rid of it... Maybe the only choice I have, is to start over again. Hmmm... If I load iTunes and it's contents over to an external HD, re-install the system etc., and load it back, would I be able to access it? Then I won't have the account with the previous owner's name anymore, the one which I have to enter now to be able to access iTunes... Maybe I am forced to move the library first? I have no idea how I can do that, not being used to OS X (or different accounts in general), but I am sure it can't be all that difficult. Can you change the settings for iTunes, so that it becomes available from all accounts? Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it!!! Aase :) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/
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On Jan 17, 2005, at 4:10 PM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: One big thing just happened though... I am now typing on my new iBook... Got it set up in a flash... I didn`t get it to work because of a little, super silly mistake! That is how it often is, I think, I just assume that it is much more serious and difficult than it is... How super-neat to be on though!!! I am having some problems while typing though, even if I don`t touch the track pad properly, the cursor suddenly moves. The same thing happens at work when I have a fever, and actually I do have one now, so maybe the same thing is happening with this track pad. The one on the Pismo isn`t that sensitive... The same thing happened to me when I got my 17. The trackpad seems a lot more sensitive than the one I had on my Pismo. If you're using OS X, make sure you turn on Ignore accidental trackpad input in the Trackpad tab of the Keyboard and Mouse preference pane. That won't be perfect because I found out that after I touch a key, I have to move the cursor around to get the trackpad responding, but it's better then without it... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] farming n.: [Adelaide University, Australia] What the heads of a disk drive are said to do when they plow little furrows in the magnetic media. Associated with a crash. Typically used as follows: Oh no, the machine has just crashed; I hope the hard drive hasn't gone farming again. No longer common; modern drives automatically park their heads in a safe zone on power-down, so it takes a real mechanical problem to induce this. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
