Re: Battery not charging properly.
I don't know what battery reset utility does, because it won't work with my Pismo, but I do know that when I first got the battery from OWC it did not charge at all for quite a while and then only a little bit even though the Well, Battery Reset does just this -- resets the battery. I got a Wallstreet with a dead battery - didn't show up in the control strip, didn't load. I run Battery Reset on it and the battery started charging. It is now good for about three hours work on a full charge. Don't know, however, what Battery Reset does to a new battery or if it acts differently with a non-apple battery. According to the Read Me file it works with PowerBook G3 Series (family number M4753 or M5343) or iBook (family number M2453) computers. Don't know offhand if the Pismo or the Lombard are amongst those... Udo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Battery not charging properly.
Caleb, If you get the battery to work properly you will be pleased with the performance, as mine gave me an additional hour of use in my Pismo compared to the Apple battery. By the way, your questions were not stupid by any means! How else are you going to find things out if you don't ask and this forum is one of the best places to find things out about G3 and G4 issues. Tom On 1/8/06 1:27 AM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to leave it on the charger through Monday afternoon, and if it isn't up by 4 PM CST on Monday, I'll call OWC. I can't have it down for any considerable amount of time, though, even if it means that I have to drag the yoyo everywhere, like it or not. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I hope it's going to work properly, as well. However, my thoughts are leaning towards the non-functioning side of things, as it's been 15 hours since I plugged it in and over 9 hours since my last post, and it's still showing 1% charge according to XBattery and OS X. I'm starting to think it's a battery problem or a Lombard problem. I'm leaning toward the former, though. Thanks for not considering my questions to be stupid, and hopefully having these things answered now will help someone else later on. I do agree on the being one of the best G3/G4 answering areas on the net, though. Where else can we compile such a vast knowledgebase with such a wide area of expertise. Thanks once again, Caleb On Sunday, Jan 8, 2006, at 10:42 America/Chicago, Tom Ethen wrote: Caleb, If you get the battery to work properly you will be pleased with the performance, as mine gave me an additional hour of use in my Pismo compared to the Apple battery. By the way, your questions were not stupid by any means! How else are you going to find things out if you don't ask and this forum is one of the best places to find things out about G3 and G4 issues. Tom On 1/8/06 1:27 AM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to leave it on the charger through Monday afternoon, and if it isn't up by 4 PM CST on Monday, I'll call OWC. I can't have it down for any considerable amount of time, though, even if it means that I have to drag the yoyo everywhere, like it or not. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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This is just a wild guess but i think the new battery is a bigger capacity than the original to calibrate the battery meter you need to run it down all the way until os x tells you your power is low and then plug it in and charge it completely. Richard On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Howard Katz wrote: Could the problem be that you should be charging it 24 hours with the 'book turned off? Having it running might be the problem, or be giving false readings. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Caleb, I would also suggest that you charge the battery for at leas 24hr with the Lombard turned off. I know that is hard if it is your only Mac, but I believe you will have much better luck by not using it until the battery is charged. Tom On 1/8/06 11:39 AM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I left the thing off for a good eight or so hours yesterday and nothing happened. After that, I got way too tired of using my Wintel machine, so I fired up the 'Book. 1% charge for a machine that has been plugged into the wall since 12 AM Saturday morning. Sleep, running or off, it shouldn't be that low with that much time in the wall. *It's 11:35 AM Sunday, where I'm at, so that's a good point of reference. I tried the NVRAM and battery resets about 24 hours ago, also.* I'm pretty sure it's the battery, at this stage of the game. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I talked to NewerTech support, and they're going to set up a replacement battery, because of the symptoms shown. If anything, I commend them on having a good support team, and I think I'll be very happy with my replacement. Of course, I'm looking forward to having a mobile Lombard, to ride out the rest of my High School career. Thanks for all the help, Caleb On Sunday, Jan 8, 2006, at 12:04 America/Chicago, Tom Ethen wrote: Caleb, I would also suggest that you charge the battery for at leas 24hr with the Lombard turned off. I know that is hard if it is your only Mac, but I believe you will have much better luck by not using it until the battery is charged. Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (among other things): I got three lights and 66% charge, before I got brilliant and decided to reset the thing using the Battery Reset Utility in OS 9. Nothing has happened since. Battery Reset 2.0 rewrites the battery's 'firmware', using one of two different firmwares. Apple's battery firmwares may ,or may not, be compatible with the Newer battery's firmware. I don't know enough about the Newer battery to know whether of not they used their own firmware or one of (or a variant of) Apple's firmware. Heck, I don't know even much about battery firmwares at all, except that firmware files do exist within the Battery Reset application's code (maybe in the BR init too, I haven't messed with that however.) What I'm trying to say I guess is that, yes, you could have messed up the Newer battery with Battery Reset. I'd suggest in the future, if anyone wants to reset a problem non-Apple battery they use the Power Manager reset for their 'Book, and/or the good ol' OF 'reset-nvram/reset-all' combo. Those should both be pretty safe. dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Before I forget, I also reset the PMU and the NVRAM, as well, with no results showing. The battery lights should be on, but they aren't. Caleb On Saturday, Jan 7, 2006, at 12:51 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote: Hi, Listers, I've got a NewerTech battery that is fresh out of the box. It was charging fine last night, but it seems to have stopped at 62% charge. The Lombard was in sleep mode overnight, so I have no idea if this may have contributed to it. However, I do remember that the lights were on while it was charging, and they've shut off. I did a reset-all in Open Firmware, but nothing is happening. Now, I did this last night when the PowerBook was reporting 100% charge and it drained in less than an hour, but then this happened. Any help will be appreciated, Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Shut it off and charge the batteries. My new battery from OWC had to charge for over 24hr before it took a full charge. Tom On 1/7/06 1:21 PM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I forget, I also reset the PMU and the NVRAM, as well, with no results showing. The battery lights should be on, but they aren't. Caleb On Saturday, Jan 7, 2006, at 12:51 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote: -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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That's the exact opposite of what I wanted to hear. Oh well, it'll be worth it to make my production machine portable. Thanks, Caleb On Saturday, Jan 7, 2006, at 14:35 America/Chicago, Tom Ethen wrote: Shut it off and charge the batteries. My new battery from OWC had to charge for over 24hr before it took a full charge. Tom On 1/7/06 1:21 PM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I forget, I also reset the PMU and the NVRAM, as well, with no results showing. The battery lights should be on, but they aren't. Caleb On Saturday, Jan 7, 2006, at 12:51 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote: -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Tom, not to sound ignorant or anything, but aren't the little lights supposed to come on when it's charging, because mine certainly aren't. Even on my first attempt immediately after getting the battery, which resulted in OS X showing 100 % charge well before any actual charge, the lights were on. On the second try, which was after I believed OS X and tried to use the thing, I got three lights and 66% charge, before I got brilliant and decided to reset the thing using the Battery Reset Utility in OS 9. Nothing has happened since. So, did I break my $140 battery, is it the battery at fault, or is it just not wanting to do anything because the planets aren't aligned properly? Any help would be appreciated before I throw the Lombard through a second-story window or two in frustration. Caleb -- Frustrated with PowerBook batteries since April 2005 On Saturday, Jan 7, 2006, at 14:35 America/Chicago, Tom Ethen wrote: Shut it off and charge the batteries. My new battery from OWC had to charge for over 24hr before it took a full charge. Tom On 1/7/06 1:21 PM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I forget, I also reset the PMU and the NVRAM, as well, with no results showing. The battery lights should be on, but they aren't. Caleb On Saturday, Jan 7, 2006, at 12:51 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote: -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Caleb, I don't know what battery reset utility does, because it won't work with my Pismo, but I do know that when I first got the battery from OWC it did not charge at all for quite a while and then only a little bit even though the lights stated otherwise. I then just left it for the weekend and was planning on calling OWC to complain the following Monday. By Monday it was fully charged and good to go and has worked ever since. I know the batteries have a circuit board in them, as I tried to rebuild one once, but couldn't figure out how to convince the circuit board that it now had new cells installed and never could get it to work. I don't see how the battery utility could break the battery, but I have heard that completely draining them makes them act strange and possibly not function any longer. If it is new, you should be able to send it back if you can't get it to work and get a replacement if charging for a day or two doesn't work. If you got it from OWC, they are very good about replacing items they sell that don't function properly. Tom On 1/8/06 12:51 AM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, not to sound ignorant or anything, but aren't the little lights supposed to come on when it's charging, because mine certainly aren't. Even on my first attempt immediately after getting the battery, which resulted in OS X showing 100 % charge well before any actual charge, the lights were on. On the second try, which was after I believed OS X and tried to use the thing, I got three lights and 66% charge, before I got brilliant and decided to reset the thing using the Battery Reset Utility in OS 9. Nothing has happened since. So, did I break my $140 battery, is it the battery at fault, or is it just not wanting to do anything because the planets aren't aligned properly? Any help would be appreciated before I throw the Lombard through a second-story window or two in frustration. Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I'm going to leave it on the charger through Monday afternoon, and if it isn't up by 4 PM CST on Monday, I'll call OWC. I can't have it down for any considerable amount of time, though, even if it means that I have to drag the yoyo everywhere, like it or not. Tom, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer all my stupid questions about the Lombard battery, as it's the first laptop with a Li-Ion I've had in a long time. The last was a Toshiba Satellite that died within two months of my getting it, so I'm not even going to consider it. I can squeeze a bit of life out of ancient NiMH batteries, as my old 190 is proof of. I still brag about my squeezing almost 6 hours out of a factory battery on the 190, on my freshman band trip to Florida. Then again, it lasted through the entire flight to LA for the BPA conference the next week, so it's a real battery miser. Well, thanks for all your help, Caleb On Sunday, Jan 8, 2006, at 01:12 America/Chicago, Tom Ethen wrote: Caleb, I don't know what battery reset utility does, because it won't work with my Pismo, but I do know that when I first got the battery from OWC it did not charge at all for quite a while and then only a little bit even though the lights stated otherwise. I then just left it for the weekend and was planning on calling OWC to complain the following Monday. By Monday it was fully charged and good to go and has worked ever since. I know the batteries have a circuit board in them, as I tried to rebuild one once, but couldn't figure out how to convince the circuit board that it now had new cells installed and never could get it to work. I don't see how the battery utility could break the battery, but I have heard that completely draining them makes them act strange and possibly not function any longer. If it is new, you should be able to send it back if you can't get it to work and get a replacement if charging for a day or two doesn't work. If you got it from OWC, they are very good about replacing items they sell that don't function properly. Tom On 1/8/06 12:51 AM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, not to sound ignorant or anything, but aren't the little lights supposed to come on when it's charging, because mine certainly aren't. Even on my first attempt immediately after getting the battery, which resulted in OS X showing 100 % charge well before any actual charge, the lights were on. On the second try, which was after I believed OS X and tried to use the thing, I got three lights and 66% charge, before I got brilliant and decided to reset the thing using the Battery Reset Utility in OS 9. Nothing has happened since. So, did I break my $140 battery, is it the battery at fault, or is it just not wanting to do anything because the planets aren't aligned properly? Any help would be appreciated before I throw the Lombard through a second-story window or two in frustration. Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
