Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
I have a 500 MHz Powerbook G3 (a.k.a.Pismo or 2000 edition or Firewire), 256 Meg RAM, and have hesitated to switch to OS X. Any comments or personal experience would be appreciated from people who made the switch. I heard that under OS X I would not be able to play DVD movies on my Powerbook, is that true? Yah the processer pops right out of the PowerBook 2000 edition real easy almost to easy, You have to remove it i think if i remember right to install the lower ram chip. I remember readin that the 2000 powerbook was suppose to be a G4 under orginal design but due to heat problems they intalled a G3 instead. Thus actually the Powerbook motherboard was a powerbook G4 motherboard with a G3 processor on it. (this was in macworld or some other mac publication back in 2000 - have the artlcle somewere filed away in my two industrial size file cabinets in my little apartment. To be honest OS X 10.1 works better then the orginal OS 9.0.4 when i bought it new in Nov 2000. I almost entirly use OS X 10.1 on it now since i use my G4 Dual 500 for all my audio, graphics and video stuff. The laptop is a portable for work at a local school and to transport stuff when i travel. Actually been using it recently to record MP3s direct from Internet Radio workin the school during the summer (school is on a T3:o)). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
If you can afford it go with a gig of ram it is a huge improvement. I got my gig when the price was $75 apeace for the 512s now i think it is down to around $100 now from near $200 a few months ago. I would not recommend running OS X with less than 512 megs of ram or at least a min of 256 or 384. But 512 or over is the best. I have not used OS 9.2.2 on the powerbook 2000 in umm i think 2 or 3 months and just booted into my desktop in 9.2.2 to run techtools (reminds me i should do that on my powerbook and then try Drive 10.1 which should be here soon to try the new optimizer that is built in). Over all i am happy with OS X 10.1 As for the DVD rom drive mine died after warenty ran out but got it replaced in year extention i got after it expired from macmall and they replaced the DVD with no questions asked. Since i got the replacement DVD drive i only used it once to test it to see if it worked and one other time atm it sits stored away to sell with the computer if i decide to upgrade in a y ear or so. Currently use a Bootable CD RW drive as my main drive since i use it for trasfuring files from one puter to the other (use my powerbook at work to download large software files for upgrades 1 times faster than modem and just write to CD RW mini (mini CDRW - fits in the inside try). I am lookin forward to 10.2 on it even if i do not get the excelleration but i do not need it on the powerbook since i mainly use my dual 500 G4 for Photoshop 7 and other stuff. When Drive 10.1.1 comes i will let u all know how it works in OS X if you all want to know - interested in seein the expanded features :o) I dropped using Nortons all together except anti virus and firewall. Use techtools and have for ummm 6 years take care and have a wonderful day were ever you all are :o) James = Israeli politics, as such, was and remains a busy street. You can turn left or right -- but if you stay in the middle, you might get run over in traffic. We talk about the American Dream, and want to tell the world about the American Dream, but what is the Dream, in most cases, but the dream of material things? I sometimes think that the United States for this reason is the greatest failure the world has ever seen. - Eugene O'Neill __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
During a break in my moving, Remy Davison wrote: Granted, no s/w DVD decoding on Lombard/Wallstreet, but I'm probably one of the few who couldn't care less about that. I can watch VCDs in X now, and that's what counts (using MacVCD - QT doesn't work as there's no s/w MPEG-1 decoder in X). MPEG-1 decoding in OS X, but has nothing to do with VCDs. VCD uses MPEG-2. There's even MPEG-2 decoding in OS X but you need to buy the MPEG-2 decoder ($20). No legal MPEG-2 decoder is free (unless they've magically found a loophole in the MPEGLA's licensing). MacVCD X is $20, too. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
During my break in moving, Remy Davison said: There's even MPEG-2 decoding in OS X MPEG-2 decoding in OS X (and various versions of Apple's DVD player on Pismo and later) is in software, not hardware. Apple added DVD player in OS X 10.0.3 or something (?). In OS 9, QT provides a software MPEG-1 decoder. but you need to buy the MPEG-2 decoder ($20). No, you've misconstrued that. It's not a player. It's a QuickTime add-on. Actually, it's a 'codec.' it gives QuickTime Player two new functionalities -- both encoding and decoding MPEG-2 in software. What does this mean, exactly? It means QuickTime Player can now play MPEG-2 streams as well as create them. codec is a contraction of COmpress, DECompress. Calling Apple's DVD Player software decoding is slightly misleading. the MPEG-2 decoding is still done in hardware on the graphics card. The part that has been off-loaded into software is decrypting the CSS copy protection. Note that if you replace a G4's graphics card with an inappropriate card, you get a message in DVD Player about the required hardware could not be found. As long as you install a card with MPEG-2 Support and Mac drivers, DVD Player (generally) continues to work. I watch MPEG-1 movies in OS X all the time. I don't have any VCDs, so I couldn't comment on that. But MPEG-1 is definitely there. (FWIW, MP3 is really MPEG-1 Layer 3). Most of my anime library is in MPEG-1. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
During my break in moving, Remy Davison said: Granted, no s/w DVD decoding on Lombard/Wallstreet, but I'm probably one of the few who couldn't care less about that. I can watch VCDs in X now, and that's what counts (using MacVCD - QT doesn't work as there's no s/w MPEG-1 decoder in X). MPEG-1 decoding in OS X, but has nothing to do with VCDs. VCD uses MPEG-2. No. VCDs use MPEG-1. DVDs use MPEG-2. SVCD is MPEG-2. QuickTime 6 plays MPEG-1 VCDs fine for me. Most VCDs you find these days are SVCDs, though. I don't happen to have any SVCDs, so I can't comment on whether these work in QT6. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Nick wrote: I have a 500 MHz Powerbook G3 (a.k.a.Pismo or 2000 edition or Firewire), 256 Meg RAM, and have hesitated to switch to OS X. Any comments or personal experience would be appreciated from people who made the switch. I heard that under OS X I would not be able to play DVD movies on my Powerbook, is that true? No. I have the same Powerbook, DVDs play very well on it. I think that you would benefit from 512MB of RAM. I say this because, adding up the reserved memory in use when I have a number of things going, I do exceed 256MB, and you don't want to be swapping to virtual memory. I've never seen swapping with 512MB (I don't however run Photoshop or other large graphics/modeling apps); and I've heard of battery module swapping and battery uptime issues with a full 1GB of memory. If you haven't invested in OS X now, I certainly suggest waiting for 10.2 before doing so; not much point in going to 10.1.5 now. I use this Pismo *in preference to* a G4 Powerbook, due to the convenience of swappable modules (10GB drives and dual batteries, mostly). While I'm not saying it's as fast as a G4 800MHz, that should give you an idea of how satisfied I am with OS X performance on a Pismo (I never run 9.2 or Classic, can't report on that). KeS -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
Bruce, It appears to me that this information still only promises the shipping of Endnote 6 for OSX for the end of July, as opposed to the windows version. I have also heard that beta versions have been released only to an exclusive test group. Did I miss something on the page? I'd love to get my hands on it. hannes From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually EndNote *just* came out with an OSX Version. Check out their web site. http://www.endnote.com/en6info.asp -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
Just want to add my voice to the more RAM chorus. I went from 256 to 1 gig and noticed a nice difference. I did that after one of the RAM monitors showed I was using more than 300 meg and was paging out to virtual memory regularly. I'd also add that a 5400 rpm drive made a small but noticeable difference. I went from the stock 12 gig unit to a 32 gig IBM, but I'm sure those new IBMs with the huge RAM cache are even better. I spread the two upgrades about 6 months apart, so just when I'd gotten used to the RAM, I got the HD boost. Hoping 10.2 is my next boost. Good luck, joe f. -- Joseph Ferrare [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/jferrare/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
I'm running OS X, and want to pick up 10.2 when it lands next month. this isn't a question of money - it's strictly a matter of how efficiently this PowerBook will continue to operate as newer and newer OS's become available... I have this concern as well, but I'm going to upgrade my Pismo and Lombard to 500 MHz G4s. Still... ... I was at MacWorld and I overheard one of those guys at the Apple booth with Jaguar polo shirts saying how Macs typically last twice as long at PCs, usually 7 years. Hello?!! OS X only runs on G3s at a very minimum. This leaves out a lot of 603, 603e, 604 and 604e machines over just over 6 years ago. I'm writing this on a 2 year old Pismo that I'm feeling is getting left in the dust with OS X, especially w.r.t. to graphics. I don't know but I think Steve's reality distortion field is a bit out of tune. OTOH, OS X 10.2, expect for Aqua Extreme, may be surprising responsive on older machines. So I guess we'll just have to see. Jeff Sz. -- The soul would have no rainbow had the eyes no tears. -- John Vance Cheney, poet (1848-1922) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
Do you think the FireWire iBooks (Clamshell and iceBooks) would ever be candidates for G4 upgrades like the 400mhz Pismo? I have two G3s, a 500mhz Pismo and a 466mhz Clamshell. Does anyone think that there'll be an economic incentive for this? I might be sorry, but i intend to install Jaguar on both of these G3s and will hope for the best. I'd sort of like to stick it out and wait for the next generation of chip when I upgrade. Maybe in two years when my warranties are gone there will be a new IBM chip or a G4 or something developed as a consortial effort by both Motorola and IBM. Donald On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 07:42 PM, Jeff Szuhay wrote: I'm running OS X, and want to pick up 10.2 when it lands next month. this isn't a question of money - it's strictly a matter of how efficiently this PowerBook will continue to operate as newer and newer OS's become available... I have this concern as well, but I'm going to upgrade my Pismo and Lombard to 500 MHz G4s. Still... ... I was at MacWorld and I overheard one of those guys at the Apple booth with Jaguar polo shirts saying how Macs typically last twice as long at PCs, usually 7 years. Hello?!! OS X only runs on G3s at a very minimum. This leaves out a lot of 603, 603e, 604 and 604e machines over just over 6 years ago. I'm writing this on a 2 year old Pismo that I'm feeling is getting left in the dust with OS X, especially w.r.t. to graphics. I don't know but I think Steve's reality distortion field is a bit out of tune. OTOH, OS X 10.2, expect for Aqua Extreme, may be surprising responsive on older machines. So I guess we'll just have to see. Jeff Sz. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
robin heath on 7/23/02 6:22 PM wrote: so is the day coming (far too soon for my liking) when the newest operating system Apple unleashes will be way too bloated to bother installing on my old reliable 400MHz Pismo PowerBook? Actually I've perceived the next OSX upgrade as a becoming more of a hardbody than a bloated upgraded. I look forward to it for my 500MHz iBook which has only a quarter of the backside cache your machine sports. Even with the recent addition of 512MB RAM for it (I swapped out a 128MB) it still doesn't feel as fast as when it ran OS9.2.2. While Apple has added more features to each upgrade of OSX, they have also continued fine tuning and streamlining it. OSX.1 compared to the first release of OSX is significantly faster and more reliable. I'm sure it has been no easy task to take a UNIX operating system and give it the look and feel of a Macintosh, which is why there were a number of basic, familiar functions missing in it's initial release (windowshades, spring loaded folder etc.). While some of these basics don't seem that significant, I'm been surprised at the number of times I've double-click-held a folder in an attempt to drill down, only to remember that the function is missing. Oddly, my biggest pet peeve is that command-N now invokes a new window in the Finder rather than make a new folder. Why? WHY!? Oh well, I'll live. -makmac -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
Donald Keenan on 7/23/02 8:00 PM wrote: Do you think the FireWire iBooks (Clamshell and iceBooks) would ever be candidates for G4 upgrades like the 400mhz Pismo? It's highly unlikely. The early G3 PowerBooks have their processors on daughtercards, which is why they can be upgraded so easily. It's just a basic swap. The iBooks and TiBooks have their processors permanently soldered in so there's no way to swap them out. -makmac -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
So the G4 upgrades for 400mhz Pismos doesn't involve soldering? They open them and lift out the daughtercards? And then attach a new CPU to the motherboard? I know some people like to hack their Clamshells...that would explain why they stop at the processor. Donald On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 09:38 PM, makmac wrote: Donald Keenan on 7/23/02 8:00 PM wrote: Do you think the FireWire iBooks (Clamshell and iceBooks) would ever be candidates for G4 upgrades like the 400mhz Pismo? It's highly unlikely. The early G3 PowerBooks have their processors on daughtercards, which is why they can be upgraded so easily. It's just a basic swap. The iBooks and TiBooks have their processors permanently soldered in so there's no way to swap them out. -makmac -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
I think that Apple wisened up and realized that the ability to upgrade didn't help them sell more new macs. Todd Donald Keenan on 7/23/02 8:00 PM wrote: Do you think the FireWire iBooks (Clamshell and iceBooks) would ever be candidates for G4 upgrades like the 400mhz Pismo? It's highly unlikely. The early G3 PowerBooks have their processors on daughtercards, which is why they can be upgraded so easily. It's just a basic swap. The iBooks and TiBooks have their processors permanently soldered in so there's no way to swap them out. -makmac -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
Yah the processer pops right out of the PowerBook 2000 edition real easy almost to easy, You have to remove it i think if i remember right to install the lower ram chip. I remember readin that the 2000 powerbook was suppose to be a G4 under orginal design but due to heat problems they intalled a G3 instead. Thus actually the Powerbook motherboard was a powerbook G4 motherboard with a G3 processor on it. (this was in macworld or some other mac publication back in 2000 - have the artlcle somewere filed away in my two industrial size file cabinets in my little apartment. To be honest OS X 10.1 works better then the orginal OS 9.0.4 when i bought it new in Nov 2000. I almost entirly use OS X 10.1 on it now since i use my G4 Dual 500 for all my audio, graphics and video stuff. The laptop is a portable for work at a local school and to transport stuff when i travel. Actually been using it recently to record MP3s direct from Internet Radio workin the school during the summer (school is on a T3:o)). __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
on 23/07/02 19:22, robin heath at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (new list member here, hello to all.) so is the day coming (far too soon for my liking) when the newest operating system Apple unleashes will be way too bloated to bother installing on my old reliable 400MHz Pismo PowerBook? this is something I've been mulling over recently, particularly last week, as I spotted several Macworld attendees sauntering up my block in their Jaguar t-shirts... I'm running OS X, and want to pick up 10.2 when it lands next month. this isn't a question of money - it's strictly a matter of how efficiently this PowerBook will continue to operate as newer and newer OS's become available... All the comments I have read on the Internet were unanimous in saying that 10.2 was significantly faster than 10.1. People with beta versions were reporting that the latest builds were perceptibly faster than the previous ones, which were faster than 10.1, this is even if you rule out Quartz Extreme, which disqualifies a lot of Macintosh that simply don't have the right video card or an AGP slot. Some specifications on the Apple's web site were calling for an optimal 32 MB video card with AGP, although that was optimum performance. I'm wondering, since the Pismo has an AGP slot, if we could expect some hardware-based acceleration, even though the video card in the Pismo has only 8 MB. I guess we'll see, but I'm not holding my breath. I remember using a Wallstreet before the Pismo and how abysmal were the video performance... Anyway, I have high hopes that 10.2 will be a good upgrade! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelinhttp://members.cox.net/nemesys Logiciels Nemesys Softwaremailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C Programmer's Disease n.: The tendency of the undisciplined C programmer to set arbitrary but supposedly generous static limits on table sizes (defined, if you're lucky, by constants in header files) rather than taking the trouble to do proper dynamic storage allocation. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 07:22:45PM -0400, robin heath wrote: : : so is the day coming (far too soon for my liking) when the newest operating : system Apple unleashes will be way too bloated to bother installing on my : old reliable 400MHz Pismo PowerBook? If (NDA-breaking) rumors prove true, 10.2 should run much better and even faster than previous releases. However, all PowerBooks except for the newest revision cannot take advantage of Quartz Extreme. I don't know how far down the road Apple intends to support Pismo. But at least you're not stuck with the woes of Lombard users... -- Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
If (NDA-breaking) rumors prove true, 10.2 should run much better and even faster than previous releases. However, all PowerBooks except for the newest revision cannot take advantage of Quartz Extreme. I don't know how far down the road Apple intends to support Pismo. But at least you're not stuck with the woes of Lombard users... What are the woes of Lombard users? The Rage Pro hack makes QuickTime videos work full-screen and full-frame. Unfortunately, it's WS users who're still left in the cold, as the hack doesn't work on WS. Granted, no s/w DVD decoding on Lombard/Wallstreet, but I'm probably one of the few who couldn't care less about that. I can watch VCDs in X now, and that's what counts (using MacVCD - QT doesn't work as there's no s/w MPEG-1 decoder in X). Cheers, RD Remy Davison Contributing Editor/News Editor, Insanely-Great Mac http://www.insanely-great.com mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RD's PowerBook page: http://www.macpowerbook.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS 10.2 and beyond...
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 03:55:54PM +1000, Remy Davison wrote: : Eugene Lee: : : If (NDA-breaking) rumors prove true, 10.2 should run much better and : even faster than previous releases. However, all PowerBooks except for : the newest revision cannot take advantage of Quartz Extreme. I don't : know how far down the road Apple intends to support Pismo. But at least : you're not stuck with the woes of Lombard users... : : What are the woes of Lombard users? No hardware graphics acceleration. No hardware OpenGL support. No hardware acceleration of QuickTime content. No DVD-Video playback support. : The Rage Pro hack makes QuickTime : videos work full-screen and full-frame. No, they don't work. Or more accurately, your mileage *will* vary. : Unfortunately, it's WS users : who're still left in the cold, as the hack doesn't work on WS. I have even more sympathy towards Wallstreet users. : Granted, no s/w DVD decoding on Lombard/Wallstreet, but I'm probably one : of the few who couldn't care less about that. Well, Lombard needs speedier hardware to decode DVDs in software. But hardware decoding beats out software decoding any day. I'm surprised that I still hear occasional complaints from TiBook owners with the occasional DVD skipping, yet another software issue. -- Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
