Re: Wireless network problem - help!
On 11/13/05, Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A given DCHP server might cover quite a large area, it depends on how everything is setup. And it could also be multiple DHCP servers that were messed up. Very true. But I was involved with the setup (on a minimal basis) with the new facility - less than a year old - so I know how the servers at least were set up. It MAY be that the DHCP server is off the main system, which is off-site, but the IT person made it sound like the upgrade was made to servers--plural. Unfortunately that is all too common an IT view point. Personally I wouldn't have said oh yes you will but rather bye bye. Several of us wanted to suggest this, but there was in-house politics involved. :) Later.Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
Nope--it was multiple locations throughout the campus. I took the PB and tried it out on the chance it was just the node I was trying to hook into. And the student who was having trouble was several floors and server rooms away from where I originally was. They've pretty much admitted it was their fault, but as of yesterday at least, it was fixed. :) (These are the same IT people who when they came in, to a Univ. that caters to teacher education, tried to tell us we didn't need Macs and they weren't planning on supporting them. They were told oh yes you will. :) ) LaterHoward -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
At 10:31 AM -0600 11/13/05, Howard Katz wrote: Nope--it was multiple locations throughout the campus. I took the PB and tried it out on the chance it was just the node I was trying to hook into. And the student who was having trouble was several floors and server rooms away from where I originally was. A given DCHP server might cover quite a large area, it depends on how everything is setup. And it could also be multiple DHCP servers that were messed up. They've pretty much admitted it was their fault, but as of yesterday at least, it was fixed. :) (These are the same IT people who when they came in, to a Univ. that caters to teacher education, tried to tell us we didn't need Macs and they weren't planning on supporting them. They were told oh yes you will. :) ) Unfortunately that is all too common an IT view point. Personally I wouldn't have said oh yes you will but rather bye bye. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
Whatever the problem was, IT got it fixed. I sitting here at the campus and composing this via the wireless connection. I'm going to see if I can get the info about which patch from one of the techs. (Our Help dept. isn't overseas, but we're located in the Chicago area (4 campuses here in Chicago) and the helpdesk is down in FL. :) ) LaterHoward -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
At 9:11 AM -0600 11/12/05, Howard Katz wrote: Whatever the problem was, IT got it fixed. I sitting here at the campus and composing this via the wireless connection. I'm going to see if I can get the info about which patch from one of the techs. (Our Help dept. isn't overseas, but we're located in the Chicago area (4 campuses here in Chicago) and the helpdesk is down in FL. :) ) If it isn't, try using the laptop in one of the locations you had problems with before. It's possible (probable) several DHCP servers serve the whole campus with each one serving addresses for several Access Points. It may be you are only having trouble with one or some DHCP servers but not all. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
On Nov 10, 2005, at 8:21 AM, Clark Martin wrote: At 8:57 AM -0500 11/10/05, Brian McEwen wrote: Howard Katz wrote So the question is why won't Tiger connect? Not really my problem now--it's the IT dept. And there's enough Tiger users wandering around that they'll need to fix this fast. Oh, and for information's sake--I'm sitting at a Panera's cafe using their free wifi. Other than having a slight problem negotiating their sign-in system this morning (more their system than mine!), it's obviously working ok. Why is it we tend to, when it comes to computers, to think it's our system that's the problem, and not something on the other end, but when it comes to things political or social issues, it's always the other guy's fault? :) I'll still say that, despite that it's a MS server software, the fact that every other wireless device I own can work fine, and the 10.4 one cannot, tells me that Apple has made some assumptions/broken some rules/ is doing *something* differently than everything else out there. Think back to good ol' dialup days, where everything else with a PPP stack could obtain the local DNS server info automagically, while us Mac types had to type it in by hand always. That the MS server update might bring this wireless feature to the fore, doesn't necessarily mean that it is the fault of MS or your local IT guys. Fun/useful to hear what exact server update they are now running (hint hint :) In the past at least there were problems with Macs running with a MS DHCP server specifically because Apple WAS following the rules and MS was breaking them and expecting everyone else to because, well, just because. -- Clark Martin I noticed that an Airport Extreme Driver update came up on my Software Update list this morning (Friday). I wonder if that will help? (I'm running Panther.) Turtle-Bear -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
On Nov 10, 2005, at 1:48 AM, John Siple wrote: -- Noise level and occasionally the manufacturer of the router or access point. It keeps a log of signal strength and last connection date, and there's a field for notes, though I don't find that very useful. Mostly what I use is channel and strength, and if you're getting that from Also you will be able to see many networks that don't show up in the regular Airport connection util. For example, the 2 networks named Public on 2 different channels- the Airport util would not show them both. Plus it would not show me the hidden WEP protected connection that hospital had for staff use- but with the stumbler util, I could see it was present. Worth taking a look, just to see who is in the neighborhood. B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
Amazing what can happen when your IT finally gives you additional info. Spent close to an hour at various times with the IT helpdesk last nite. One nice gentleman (Better that euphemism than something else I could say--and besides, someone from there could be on this list. :) ) looking over the shoulder of the person I was talking to actually said Oh, we don't support 10.4 Mac OS--only the earlier versions. I let them know that it's been working flawlessly since July when I got this puppy. Then the shoe drops. The tech mentions that, and I'm going to use caps here, so be prepared for a little shouting--INSTALLED A NEW MICROSOFT SERVER UPDATE PACKAGE TO ALL THE CAMPUS SERVERS YESTERDAY!! Gee, you think, especially since another Mac user there, running Tiger, couldn't connect, it could have something to do with MS's (lousy) software? He admitted that it could be the case, and put in a work ticket--to one of my co-workers. (I've advised him of the situation in a separate email). Just for grins, I also booted up one of the school's eMacs running Panther (or earlier--I forget the version #, but I know it's not Tiger)--disconnected the ethernet cable, set it to run via the airport card--no problem, it worked. So the question is why won't Tiger connect? Not really my problem now--it's the IT dept. And there's enough Tiger users wandering around that they'll need to fix this fast. Oh, and for information's sake--I'm sitting at a Panera's cafe using their free wifi. Other than having a slight problem negotiating their sign-in system this morning (more their system than mine!), it's obviously working ok. Why is it we tend to, when it comes to computers, to think it's our system that's the problem, and not something on the other end, but when it comes to things political or social issues, it's always the other guy's fault? :) Thanks again for all the help, input and insight, folks!! Later...Howard (a relieved PB user!) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
Howard Katz wrote So the question is why won't Tiger connect? Not really my problem now--it's the IT dept. And there's enough Tiger users wandering around that they'll need to fix this fast. Oh, and for information's sake--I'm sitting at a Panera's cafe using their free wifi. Other than having a slight problem negotiating their sign-in system this morning (more their system than mine!), it's obviously working ok. Why is it we tend to, when it comes to computers, to think it's our system that's the problem, and not something on the other end, but when it comes to things political or social issues, it's always the other guy's fault? :) I'll still say that, despite that it's a MS server software, the fact that every other wireless device I own can work fine, and the 10.4 one cannot, tells me that Apple has made some assumptions/broken some rules/ is doing *something* differently than everything else out there. Think back to good ol' dialup days, where everything else with a PPP stack could obtain the local DNS server info automagically, while us Mac types had to type it in by hand always. That the MS server update might bring this wireless feature to the fore, doesn't necessarily mean that it is the fault of MS or your local IT guys. Fun/useful to hear what exact server update they are now running (hint hint :) Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
If I can get the the info about which update they used, I'll pass it on. But the fact that tiger, even the latest update, was problem-free until yesterday makes me tend to think that Apple actually had the software compliant, and MS f***ked up something that excluded Mac and was only MS-compliant for their own OS. Like I said, I've had no problem for almost 4 months, and there's no problem right now at panera's--tho I know they're only using a standard base-station on a DSL line vs a whole-campus server system. (College also went to VoIP for phone service--personally I don't think it's as good sound quality as the telco system was.) LaterHoward -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
on 10/11/05 09:04, Howard Katz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get the the info about which update they used, I'll pass it on. But the fact that tiger, even the latest update, was problem-free until yesterday makes me tend to think that Apple actually had the software compliant, and MS f***ked up something that excluded Mac and was only MS-compliant for their own OS. Like I said, I've had no problem for almost 4 months, and there's no problem right now at panera's--tho I know they're only using a standard base-station on a DSL line vs a whole-campus server system. (College also went to VoIP for phone service--personally I don't think it's as good sound quality as the telco system was.) Howard, So, you're saying that until yesterday, even with 10.4.3 installed, you had no problem to connect? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] luser: /loo'zr/ n. [common] A user; esp. one who is also a loser. (luser and loser are pronounced identically.) This word was coined around 1975 at MIT. Under ITS, when you first walked up to a terminal at MIT and typed Control-Z to get the computer's attention, it printed out some status information, including how many people were already using the computer; it might print 14 users, for example. Someone thought it would be a great joke to patch the system to print 14 losers instead. There ensued a great controversy, as some of the users didn't particularly want to be called losers to their faces every time they used the computer. For a while several hackers struggled covertly, each changing the message behind the back of the others; any time you logged into the computer it was even money whether it would say users or losers. Finally, someone tried the compromise lusers, and it stuck. Later one of the ITS machines supported `luser' as a request-for-help command. ITS died the death in mid-1990, except as a museum piece; the usage lives on, however, and the term `luser' is often seen in program comments and on Usenet. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
At 8:57 AM -0500 11/10/05, Brian McEwen wrote: Howard Katz wrote So the question is why won't Tiger connect? Not really my problem now--it's the IT dept. And there's enough Tiger users wandering around that they'll need to fix this fast. Oh, and for information's sake--I'm sitting at a Panera's cafe using their free wifi. Other than having a slight problem negotiating their sign-in system this morning (more their system than mine!), it's obviously working ok. Why is it we tend to, when it comes to computers, to think it's our system that's the problem, and not something on the other end, but when it comes to things political or social issues, it's always the other guy's fault? :) I'll still say that, despite that it's a MS server software, the fact that every other wireless device I own can work fine, and the 10.4 one cannot, tells me that Apple has made some assumptions/broken some rules/ is doing *something* differently than everything else out there. Think back to good ol' dialup days, where everything else with a PPP stack could obtain the local DNS server info automagically, while us Mac types had to type it in by hand always. That the MS server update might bring this wireless feature to the fore, doesn't necessarily mean that it is the fault of MS or your local IT guys. Fun/useful to hear what exact server update they are now running (hint hint :) In the past at least there were problems with Macs running with a MS DHCP server specifically because Apple WAS following the rules and MS was breaking them and expecting everyone else to because, well, just because. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
At 6:03 PM -0600 11/9/05, Howard Katz wrote: One of my part-time jobs is working at a local university--I'm there now. I've used the wireless capabilities of my G4 15 AL unit for months here with no problems. Univ. network is open, unprotected. I was sitting at my desk today using the wirelss connection, via automatic airport setting when all of a sudden it stopped working. I've tried two different browsers (icab, firefox), a telnet client, as well as launching a few internet-connected widget to see if anything would take care of the problem. Even removed the battery for 10 min on the off-chance that would work. It didn't, and neither have multiple restarts and shutdowns. Airport's icon in the menu bar shows a strong signal. AirTrafficControl widget shows network(s), and strength. However, nothing I try will get anything to connect thru the wireless. (A co-worker's peecee is working fine wireless.) It does however, work fine when I plug directly into an ethernet jack, like right now. It was working earlier today when I stopped for coffee at an place that offers free wifi, and like I said, it was working here for maybe an hour and then just stopped. I ran the netowrk status diagnostics, and it fails on ISP and server. It does see the network, and I've got a good strong, all-bars signal showing. IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own. Any suggestions or help? Best guess is you aren't getting a DHCP lease. Open the Network Preference Pane and see what IP address your Airport interface is getting. If it is 169.254.x.x that is what is known as Self Assigned (the Network Preference Pane will refer to it as such). It means your Mac couldn't get a DHCP address from a server and made up it's own address which is usually used with ad hoc networks. It should ultimately re-find a DHCP address. You can force it by either hitting the Renew DHCP Lease button in the TCP/IP section or creating a new location with a static IP address (it doesn't matter what), switch to it (hitting Apply Now) then switch back (again hitting Apply Now). The former is simpler but the latter is more reliable. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
I agree with Clark. It's probably a DHCP problem. Go to the NETWORK system prefs panel Show Airport Click TCP/IP and make sure the setting is Using DHCP not Using DHCP with manual address. You might also take a look at MacStumbler if you do any war driving at all. It gives you a good idea what's in the air. John --- On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Howard Katz wrote: One of my part-time jobs is working at a local university--I'm there now. I've used the wireless capabilities of my G4 15 AL unit for months here with no problems. Univ. network is open, unprotected. I was sitting at my desk today using the wirelss connection, via automatic airport setting when all of a sudden it stopped working. I've tried two different browsers (icab, firefox), a telnet client, as well as launching a few internet-connected widget to see if anything would take care of the problem. Even removed the battery for 10 min on the off-chance that would work. It didn't, and neither have multiple restarts and shutdowns. Airport's icon in the menu bar shows a strong signal. AirTrafficControl widget shows network(s), and strength. However, nothing I try will get anything to connect thru the wireless. (A co-worker's peecee is working fine wireless.) It does however, work fine when I plug directly into an ethernet jack, like right now. It was working earlier today when I stopped for coffee at an place that offers free wifi, and like I said, it was working here for maybe an hour and then just stopped. I ran the netowrk status diagnostics, and it fails on ISP and server. It does see the network, and I've got a good strong, all-bars signal showing. IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own. Any suggestions or help? Later..Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
Yup--a DHCP problem--I'm on now wireless, but I had to choose an arbitrary IP number based on what I was getting from the plug-in ethernet info. It won't get one for me when I renew or try automatic DHCP when I'm airport connected. It just won't do it automatically. Is there a preference I should trash, maybe? I CAN connect--at least here, but it's going to be problematic at some of the free wifi sites--they don't usually have ethernet ports to plug into. :) Later.Howard On 11/9/05, John Siple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Clark. It's probably a DHCP problem. Go to the NETWORK system prefs panel Show Airport Click TCP/IP and make sure the setting is Using DHCP not Using DHCP with manual address. You might also take a look at MacStumbler if you do any war driving at all. It gives you a good idea what's in the air. John --- On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Howard Katz wrote: One of my part-time jobs is working at a local university--I'm there now. I've used the wireless capabilities of my G4 15 AL unit for months here with no problems. Univ. network is open, unprotected. I was sitting at my desk today using the wirelss connection, via automatic airport setting when all of a sudden it stopped working. I've tried two different browsers (icab, firefox), a telnet client, as well as launching a few internet-connected widget to see if anything would take care of the problem. Even removed the battery for 10 min on the off-chance that would work. It didn't, and neither have multiple restarts and shutdowns. Airport's icon in the menu bar shows a strong signal. AirTrafficControl widget shows network(s), and strength. However, nothing I try will get anything to connect thru the wireless. (A co-worker's peecee is working fine wireless.) It does however, work fine when I plug directly into an ethernet jack, like right now. It was working earlier today when I stopped for coffee at an place that offers free wifi, and like I said, it was working here for maybe an hour and then just stopped. I ran the netowrk status diagnostics, and it fails on ISP and server. It does see the network, and I've got a good strong, all-bars signal showing. IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own. Any suggestions or help? Later..Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Oh--and question--what would macstumbler give me that I'm not seeing with airtraffic control? I was able to see the network, the channel, strength, and choose which channel to connect to. Later..Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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No go--now even putting in DHCP manually doesn't seem to work--and the diagnostics keep failing on internet and server. Later.Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:17 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own.
Any suggestions or help?
Best guess is you aren't getting a DHCP lease. Open the Network
Preference Pane and see what IP address your Airport interface is
getting. If it is 169.254.x.x that is what is known as Self
Assigned (the Network Preference Pane will refer to it as such).
It means your Mac couldn't get a DHCP address from a server and
made up it's own address which is usually used with ad hoc networks.
the OSX wireless/ open WAP thing is partly broken as far as I can
tell. Both at my workplace and at the hospital where I was spending
many hours a few months back, I could get online fine with any laptop
except the OSX powerbook.
I could get an IP, signal fine, see the SSID of the open network,
etc. but trying to ping anywhere let alone DNS lookups gav eno route
to host.
Apple support ('book was new) was no help, local admins said yup for
whatever reason OS X can't get online, we have no ideas, but would
like it to work.
I thought perhaps I had an idea of the problem- the hospital had 2
open networks named PUBLIC but on 2 channels, I thought perhaps
things were confused on the Mac due to that (though my Clie UX-50,
Win98, WinXP, and Newton Messagepad were fine (I had lots of time and
trips to work on this :) but the work one, DORA is open and the
only one around.
I gave up. Macs just don't work as well as windows machines
sometimes. I know my karma will take a pummelling but that's the data.
B
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Re: Wireless network problem - help!
Brian--that sparked something. I called our HelpDesk people back. I actually got someone who said We don't support Mac OSX except for 10.3 and earlier. His coworker thought this was an odd statement, but let it go. Seems that they applied a microsoft update sometime today to the server software--he thinks it broke something Mac related--to test it, I found a student with an iBook, who also was running it turns out--Tiger. She couldn't connect either. I've a feeling the problem isn't mine, but the IT folk who aren't big mac fans. I'll test it out tomorrow at the wifi cafe and give a report back. Thanks! Later.Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Howard Katz wrote: turns out--Tiger. She couldn't connect either. I've a feeling the problem isn't mine, but the IT folk who aren't big mac fans. I'll test it out tomorrow at the wifi cafe and give a report back. FWIW, I can connect fine at work on the WEP protected network- just the open one won't work. Laptop is fine at Panera stores, other places. The hospital IT guys worked hard with me to troubleshot but I finally gave up. It's in Apple's court. In June they said they would have an update that addressed some network stuff- but 10.4.1 didn't touch it. If you can find out what they are doing for server stuff at your workplace (routers versions etc) I've ben meaning to trap our guy near the coffee pot and find out. The weird thing is our AP is just a bog standard off the shelf Linksys or some such. Big Cisco thing behind it, but I'm not sure why the Cisco hardware would matter at that point. It's really Apple's issue, I think- if everything else is fine, and 9.1 machines are fine, and Win98 machines are fine- Apple's the cause in my book. Heck my Newton Messagepad is even fine, and its TCP/IP stack is a poster child for broken... Luck; B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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FWIW, it was a Panera's that I was at earlier too. I'll try it out there tomorrow, as well as the public library's free wifi - hopefully all will be well. And should I hear something about what the IT folk do or change, I'll pass it on. Later...Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Brian McEwen wrote: The hospital IT guys worked hard with me to troubleshot but I finally gave up. It's in Apple's court. In June they said they would have an update that addressed some network stuff- but 10.4.1 didn't touch it. sorry, meant 10.4.2. B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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on 09/11/05 22:27, Brian McEwen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Brian McEwen wrote: The hospital IT guys worked hard with me to troubleshot but I finally gave up. It's in Apple's court. In June they said they would have an update that addressed some network stuff- but 10.4.1 didn't touch it. sorry, meant 10.4.2. What about 10.4.3? There were a lot of fixes in that (huge) update... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] plan file: n. [Unix] On systems that support finger, the `.plan' file in a user's home directory is displayed when the user is fingered. This feature was originally intended to be used to keep potential fingerers apprised of one's location and near-future plans, but has been turned almost universally to humorous and self-expressive purposes (like a sig block). See also Hacking X for Y. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 11/9/05, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about 10.4.3? There were a lot of fixes in that (huge) update... 10.4.3 is what I'm currently using. It sounds like IT doesn't want to deal with anything newer than 10.3. However this Univ deals primarily with teacher education. you'd better believe that there's a fair number of PB's being using around here! IT knows it has to support Tiger. (I hate to think what'll happen when the next version--Leopard?--appears) Later...Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:43 PM, Howard Katz wrote: Tiger. (I hate to think what'll happen when the next version--Leopard?--appears) I hate all these nicknames. especiallly the laptop ones. Pismo indeed. I hadn't been down to the hospital group since early July so hadn't tested that setup with 10.4.3. I should put it on and try the work one, though- it just automatically goes through the WEP protected one now so I hadn't bothered doing more unpaid work testing for Apple. Sounds like Howard has the 10.4.3 installed with the same issue persisting, though. Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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on 09/11/05 22:43, Howard Katz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/9/05, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about 10.4.3? There were a lot of fixes in that (huge) update... 10.4.3 is what I'm currently using. It sounds like IT doesn't want to deal with anything newer than 10.3. However this Univ deals primarily with teacher education. you'd better believe that there's a fair number of PB's being using around here! IT knows it has to support Tiger. (I hate to think what'll happen when the next version--Leopard?--appears) I still don't understand what 10.4.3 would have introduced that would require some intervention from your IT department. 802.11b and 802.11g are well known specifications and every vendor wishing to be compliant has to go through certification tests before he can call his stuff 802.11b or 802.11g compliant. The only problem you might experience is that not all wireless access points support AppleTalk, but, otherwise, it shouldn't matter. The network negotiation from the PowerBook to the WAP should be the very same. Heck, it should be the same if you switch to built-in Ethernet. If it's 802.11b or 802.11g, then it should work. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] hat: n. Common (spoken) name for the circumflex (`^', ASCII 100) character. See ASCII for other synonyms. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Nov 9, 2005, at 11:18 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: access points support AppleTalk, but, otherwise, it shouldn't matter. The network negotiation from the PowerBook to the WAP should be the very same. Heck, it should be the same if you switch to built-in Ethernet. If it's 802.11b or 802.11g, then it should work. Oh, I truly agree. B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Brian wrote, I hate all these nicknames. especiallly the laptop ones. Pismo indeed. snip Hey, now wait just a minute there. Those of us from the California coast think Pismo is just about the sexiest name on the Planet. And besides, it has the best golf course, too; not to even mention the best Powerbook of all time (can you believe that I'm still running this 400 MHz/512 MB machine from Summer Y2K--with 10.4.x at that?!? Try that with a Windows notebook!). Personally, I think Apple has the best working names in the biz. For example, compare Pismo to Vista (the new Windows; that elevator doesn't even go to the top floor; no panache, at all). Anybody got any ideas on wireless with WPA and this Pismo? rb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless network problem - help!
On Nov 9, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Brian McEwen wrote:
On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:17 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
IT isn't too mac savvy here, so I'm basically on my own.
Any suggestions or help?
Best guess is you aren't getting a DHCP lease. Open the Network
Preference Pane and see what IP address your Airport interface is
getting. If it is 169.254.x.x that is what is known as Self
Assigned (the Network Preference Pane will refer to it as such).
It means your Mac couldn't get a DHCP address from a server and
made up it's own address which is usually used with ad hoc networks.
the OSX wireless/ open WAP thing is partly broken as far as I can
tell. Both at my workplace and at the hospital where I was spending
many hours a few months back, I could get online fine with any laptop
except the OSX powerbook.
I could get an IP, signal fine, see the SSID of the open network,
etc. but trying to ping anywhere let alone DNS lookups gav eno route
to host.
Apple support ('book was new) was no help, local admins said yup for
whatever reason OS X can't get online, we have no ideas, but would
like it to work.
I thought perhaps I had an idea of the problem- the hospital had 2
open networks named PUBLIC but on 2 channels, I thought perhaps
things were confused on the Mac due to that (though my Clie UX-50,
Win98, WinXP, and Newton Messagepad were fine (I had lots of time and
trips to work on this :) but the work one, DORA is open and the
only one around.
I gave up. Macs just don't work as well as windows machines
sometimes. I know my karma will take a pummelling but that's the data.
B
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Her symptoms were similar to yours, ability to see wireless but
inability to log in using a WEP password she knew was good, ability
to connect via unencrypted access points but not reliably, ability to
do pretty much everything when on ethernet connections. She was
running Panther.
This baffles me because I've never had trouble connecting to anything
I can see on wireless detectors (running a G4 iBook and Airport
Extreme via Tiger). Wish I could be more help here.
John
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Re: Wireless network problem - help!
On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Howard Katz wrote: Oh--and question--what would macstumbler give me that I'm not seeing with airtraffic control? I was able to see the network, the channel, strength, and choose which channel to connect to. Later..Howard -- Noise level and occasionally the manufacturer of the router or access point. It keeps a log of signal strength and last connection date, and there's a field for notes, though I don't find that very useful. Mostly what I use is channel and strength, and if you're getting that from -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
