Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
The screen hinges are very commonly failed on Wallstreet G3s... On 16/03/2005, at 12:57, Malcolm Cornelius wrote: Re my distorted screen problem, and following on from your much appreciated responses, it turns out my 1998 Wallstreet is a 14.1 inch screen. (I understand the Wallstreet 13.3 inch screen model has recognised problems with its cables but not usually the case with the 14.1 inch screen.) The symptoms are the same, so I'm going to stick to the diagnosis of a bad cable or cable connection. Better than the alternative, which is that the video ram is failing, in which case it's new logic board time for you. Me too, never seen a machine with bad VRAM that was variable. Get it opened up and check the cables. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem/recommend repairer city of Chicago?
Many thanks again Bruce Malcolm. Sounds like the cost may not be too horrific? That brings me to another Q before I hit the Internet/Yellow Pages---might anyone happen to have a recommendation for a reasonably priced G3/Wallstreet repairer within the city of Chicago (not the suburbs--I don't have wheels), or failing that, a mail-in repair company? (I did come across one on the net that sends you the box, picks up and gives you an estimate for $79, but I didn't keep the name and now can't find them again). I have seriously thought about attempting it on my own, after looking at the reassuring pbfixit site guides--it would save $$$, plus it's tempting to test my skills or lack of them in a live-dangerously sort of way. But knowing how inexperienced I am, common sense prevails--I really need to get someone experienced to do it as time is of the essence. Thanks again! I really appreciate it! Kerry The symptoms are the same, so I'm going to stick to the diagnosis of a bad cable or cable connection. Better than the alternative, which is that the video ram is failing, in which case it's new logic board time for you. Me too, never seen a machine with bad VRAM that was variable. Get it opened up and check the cables. -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Johnson Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:27 PM To: G-Books Subject: Re: anyone familiar with this problem? On Mar 15, 2005, at 3:08 PM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Hi again Bruce, Ken, Malcom Re my distorted screen problem, and following on from your much appreciated responses, it turns out my 1998 Wallstreet is a 14.1 inch screen. (I understand the Wallstreet 13.3 inch screen model has recognised problems with its cables but not usually the case with the 14.1 inch screen.) The symptoms are the same, so I'm going to stick to the diagnosis of a bad cable or cable connection. Better than the alternative, which is that the video ram is failing, in which case it's new logic board time for you. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Ph macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
Thanks!---luckily, the hinges seem fine. (For now.) Kerry -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of themacuser Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:22 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: anyone familiar with this problem? The screen hinges are very commonly failed on Wallstreet G3s... On 16/03/2005, at 12:57, Malcolm Cornelius wrote: Re my distorted screen problem, and following on from your much appreciated responses, it turns out my 1998 Wallstreet is a 14.1 inch screen. (I understand the Wallstreet 13.3 inch screen model has recognised problems with its cables but not usually the case with the 14.1 inch screen.) The symptoms are the same, so I'm going to stick to the diagnosis of a bad cable or cable connection. Better than the alternative, which is that the video ram is failing, in which case it's new logic board time for you. Me too, never seen a machine with bad VRAM that was variable. Get it opened up and check the cables. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem/recommend repairer city of Chicago?
Try this. They did a great job on my Ti-book and all by fast mail. http://www.macresq.com/ dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem
On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:33 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: That brings me to another Q before I hit the Internet/Yellow Pages---might anyone happen to have a recommendation for a reasonably priced G3/Wallstreet repairer within the city of Chicago (not the suburbs--I don't have wheels), or failing that, a mail-in repair company? (I did come across one on the net that sends you the box, picks up and gives you an estimate for $79, but I didn't keep the name and now can't find them again). You may be thinking about the following repair service: http://www.powerbookresq.com/overnight.php DTT Macintosh Services is in Fremont, California, but has a good reputation: http://www.dttservice.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem
Thank you---no, it wasn't powerbookresq, but powerbookresq sounds good and I like the price of the 72hr turnaround better. Thanks for the suggs---I'm filing them NOW and will look at them both. Kerry -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fabian Fang Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:16 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: anyone familiar with this problem On Mar 16, 2005, at 8:33 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: That brings me to another Q before I hit the Internet/Yellow Pages---might anyone happen to have a recommendation for a reasonably priced G3/Wallstreet repairer within the city of Chicago (not the suburbs--I don't have wheels), or failing that, a mail-in repair company? (I did come across one on the net that sends you the box, picks up and gives you an estimate for $79, but I didn't keep the name and now can't find them again). You may be thinking about the following repair service: http://www.powerbookresq.com/overnight.php DTT Macintosh Services is in Fremont, California, but has a good reputation: http://www.dttservice.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem/recommend repairer city of Chicago?
Thanks for that Dan--yes, another member, Fabian, just recommended them too. And, I like their $49 price. Kerry -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dan_A Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:03 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: anyone familiar with this problem/recommend repairer city of Chicago? Try this. They did a great job on my Ti-book and all by fast mail. http://www.macresq.com/ dan_A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
Thanks Bruce--it's a Wallstreet (thanks VERY much for laying the options out, too). The first time the problem occurred, I rebooted immediately (I was still able to see enough of the menu at the top of screen to do this). After I rebooted, the screen actually showed up worse--it was still covered in dotted lines, with the icons unrecognizable, but now the menus at the top had all but disappeared. I had forgotten the keyboard commands to shut down so had to leave the machine for several days until I got the keyboard combination. Next time I rebooted, using the keyboard, was 5 days later, and at first things looked hopeful: however, while the screen had almost cleared, it still showed two short black dotted lines almost halfway down it. Plus, there were pulsating dotted lines at the very top and bottom of the screen. (Ordinarily, I probably wouldn't have even noticed these, but by now I'm looking for every little aberration.) After I logged on, and began scrolling down the first page of the site I was on, the problem started all over. A mass of dotted lines replaced the text and graphics. Hope that gives some insight. Kerry -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Johnson Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:00 PM To: G-Books Subject: Re: anyone familiar with this problem? On Mar 14, 2005, at 3:38 PM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Hi all I'm a newbie to the list, so please forgive me if I breach protocol in any way! By the time I got back to the desktop, to shut the laptop down, the desktop was extremely distorted and the menu at the top had disappeared. I had to use the keyboard to shut down. That essentially is the problem. two questions: What model do you have? What does the screen look like when you reboot? There were 4 G3 Mac Powerbook models. The original Powerbook G3, which looks like a 5300, aka the Kanga. http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/g3.shtml Then there was the Powerbook G3 Series, aka the Wallstreet. http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/g3series.shtml (also a series II) It has two PCMCIA slots and SCSI on the back. Next was the Powerbook G3 (bronze Keyboard) aka the Lombard. It has only one pcmcia slot, SCSI and USB ports, and the afore mentioned bronze keyboard. (kinda brownish transparent keys) http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/lombard.shtml Finally there was the Powerbook G3 Series Firewire, aka the Pismo. It has no SCSI, but does have firewire slots, and the same bronze keyboard. http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/pismo.shtml The fact that it got worse after being on a longer time implies a hardware problem, getting worse as the system gets hotter. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Ph rmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
Thanks Bruce--it's a Wallstreet (thanks VERY much for laying the options out, too). If I was a betting man I'd guess you had the 13.3in screen and the screen cable was loose - a very common problem. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
On Mar 15, 2005, at 7:51 AM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Thanks Bruce--it's a Wallstreet (thanks VERY much for laying the options out, too). After I logged on, and began scrolling down the first page of the site I was on, the problem started all over. A mass of dotted lines replaced the text and graphics. I suspect that Malcolm is right, it sounds like a loose video cable. http;//www.pbfixit.com has some good, well illustrated guides to fixing Powerbooks, which may help. With luck the connection's loose on the motherboard, which is pretty easy to get to. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of P macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
My Reply follows quote. On 15/03/2005 06:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thanks Bruce--it's a Wallstreet (thanks VERY much for laying the options out, too). The first time the problem occurred, I rebooted immediately (I was still able to see enough of the menu at the top of screen to do this). After Irebooted, the screen actually showed up worse--it was still covered in dotted lines, with the icons unrecognizable, but now the menus at the top had all but disappeared. I had forgotten the keyboard commands to shut down so had to leave the machine for several days until I got the keyboard combination. Next time I rebooted, using the keyboard, was 5 days later, and at first things looked hopeful: however, while the screen had almost cleared, it still showed two short black dotted lines almost halfway down it. Plus, there were pulsating dotted lines at the very top and bottom of the screen. (Ordinarily, I probably wouldn't have even noticed these, but by now I'm looking for every little aberration.) After I logged on, and began scrolling down the first page of the site I was on, the problem started all over. A mass of dotted lines the text and graphics. replaced Hope that gives some insight. Kerry - In the trouble shooting section, I can only find this similar sounding trouble: 13.3 screen flickers or shows intermittent vertical lines Carefully squeeze the upper left side of the display bezel. If the problem disappears, dispatch unit for display cable replacement (13.3 displays only). Do not replace I/O logic board or display. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
I just got your reply, Malcolm---thank you very much! best to you too, Kerry -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malcolm Cornelius Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:20 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: anyone familiar with this problem? Thanks Bruce--it's a Wallstreet (thanks VERY much for laying the options out, too). If I was a betting man I'd guess you had the 13.3in screen and the screen cable was loose - a very common problem. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
Thank you, Ken--that sounds like something I should be able to try for myself. Much appreciated, Kerry -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:57 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: anyone familiar with this problem? My Reply follows quote. On 15/03/2005 06:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thanks Bruce--it's a Wallstreet (thanks VERY much for laying the options out, too). The first time the problem occurred, I rebooted immediately (I was still able to see enough of the menu at the top of screen to do this). After Irebooted, the screen actually showed up worse--it was still covered in dotted lines, with the icons unrecognizable, but now the menus at the top had all but disappeared. I had forgotten the keyboard commands to shut down so had to leave the machine for several days until I got the keyboard combination. Next time I rebooted, using the keyboard, was 5 days later, and at first things looked hopeful: however, while the screen had almost cleared, it still showed two short black dotted lines almost halfway down it. Plus, there were pulsating dotted lines at the very top and bottom of the screen. (Ordinarily, I probably wouldn't have even noticed these, but by now I'm looking for every little aberration.) After I logged on, and began scrolling down the first page of the site I was on, the problem started all over. A mass of dotted lines the text and graphics. replaced Hope that gives some insight. Kerry - In the trouble shooting section, I can only find this similar sounding trouble: 13.3 screen flickers or shows intermittent vertical lines Carefully squeeze the upper left side of the display bezel. If the problem disappears, dispatch unit for display cable replacement (13.3 displays only). Do not replace I/O logic board or display. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
Hi again Bruce, Ken, Malcom Re my distorted screen problem, and following on from your much appreciated responses, it turns out my 1998 Wallstreet is a 14.1 inch screen. (I understand the Wallstreet 13.3 inch screen model has recognised problems with its cables but not usually the case with the 14.1 inch screen.) I also wanted to mention, in case it's relevant, that the screen hinges appear to be fine, ie they are not floppy or rough and the screen stays in what ever lean-back position I choose. (I gather Wallstreet hinges are a bit of a weakness.) In light of the above, I'm wondering if this makes any difference to the diagnosis? best, Kerry PS: Thanks Bruce for pointing me towards the http;//www.pbfixit.com guides. The people that wrote them are very convincing in their assurance that anyone can follow the guides, which I like. It's not often you come across such understanding for the angst that computer dummies such as myself feel when faced with the prospect of taking their precious laptop apart. -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:57 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: anyone familiar with this problem? My Reply follows quote. On 15/03/2005 06:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thanks Bruce--it's a Wallstreet (thanks VERY much for laying the options out, too). The first time the problem occurred, I rebooted immediately (I was still able to see enough of the menu at the top of screen to do this). After Irebooted, the screen actually showed up worse--it was still covered in dotted lines, with the icons unrecognizable, but now the menus at the top had all but disappeared. I had forgotten the keyboard commands to shut down so had to leave the machine for several days until I got the keyboard combination. Next time I rebooted, using the keyboard, was 5 days later, and at first things looked hopeful: however, while the screen had almost cleared, it still showed two short black dotted lines almost halfway down it. Plus, there were pulsating dotted lines at the very top and bottom of the screen. (Ordinarily, I probably wouldn't have even noticed these, but by now I'm looking for every little aberration.) After I logged on, and began scrolling down the first page of the site I was on, the problem started all over. A mass of dotted lines the text and graphics. replaced Hope that gives some insight. Kerry - In the trouble shooting section, I can only find this similar sounding trouble: 13.3 screen flickers or shows intermittent vertical lines Carefully squeeze the upper left side of the display bezel. If the problem disappears, dispatch unit for display cable replacement (13.3 displays only). Do not replace I/O logic board or display. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
Re my distorted screen problem, and following on from your much appreciated responses, it turns out my 1998 Wallstreet is a 14.1 inch screen. (I understand the Wallstreet 13.3 inch screen model has recognised problems with its cables but not usually the case with the 14.1 inch screen.) The symptoms are the same, so I'm going to stick to the diagnosis of a bad cable or cable connection. Better than the alternative, which is that the video ram is failing, in which case it's new logic board time for you. Me too, never seen a machine with bad VRAM that was variable. Get it opened up and check the cables. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
anyone familiar with this problem?
Hi all I'm a newbie to the list, so please forgive me if I breach protocol in any way! I've used Macs for years, but this is my first G3. And I've just run up against a big problem, one that I've never encountered before, and which prevents me using it at all. I'll try and be as clear and concise as possible, and give as many clues as I can: My G3, OS 9.1, which altho not new, is new to me--I've been using it for about a month. Last week when I booted up I noticed that a few dotted lines had strangely appeared on my desktop screen. I went ahead with my project of the evening, anyway, which was to download OutlookExpress506ENU.bin. By the time the download was done, the screen was covered in a rash of dotted lines and the cursor had a shadow that looked a bit like the shape of 2 AA batteries trailing behind it. I was still able to get on the Internet, and the opening page of the website I went to was ok. However, as soon as I began scrolling down--not before I scrolled down--the text and graphics on the page were replaced by a rash of dotted lines making it impossible to continue. It didn't matter which method I used to scroll--dragging the right-hand sidebar down, clicking on the little black down arrow, or using the keyboard arrow--the effect was the same. I noticed that clicking on a part of the page restored that small part of the page to normal. By the time I got back to the desktop, to shut the laptop down, the desktop was extremely distorted and the menu at the top had disappeared. I had to use the keyboard to shut down. That essentially is the problem. Here is some additional information which may or may not be useful: 1. I've had the laptop for 3-4 years without using it--just powering it up from time to time to make sure it hadn't died on me. I only began to seriously get it up and running about a month ago. My brother-in-law (who had kindly given the laptop to me), was worried there might be a PRAM issue when the date went haywire about six weeks ago, ago, but installation of a good battery seemed to solve the problem (so I haven't done anything with the PRAM). 2. I had been successfully word processing. 3. I had been successfully using the Internet, but I needed to upgrade from 4.5 Internet Explorer, which I did, successfully, after downloading Aladdin. 4. I subscribed to the ISP fastermac.net a month or so ago, but realized I needed to upgrade my Outlook Express (altho I can receive email at fastermac.net, I found that I can't send it, until I upgrade from the current Outlook Expres 4.5). 5. The evening I noticed the dotted lines on the screen was the evening I planned to download OutlookExpress506ENU.bin. I did download, but while the download was going on, the screen was becoming covered in dotted lines. I don't think it was the download that caused the problem, since (as I mentioned previously) I had noticed a few stray dotted lines on the screen when I booted up. If anyone is familiar with this scenario and knows what's going on I would really, really appreciate the feedback. Thanks in advance! Kerry M. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
On Mar 14, 2005, at 3:38 PM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Hi all I'm a newbie to the list, so please forgive me if I breach protocol in any way! By the time I got back to the desktop, to shut the laptop down, the desktop was extremely distorted and the menu at the top had disappeared. I had to use the keyboard to shut down. That essentially is the problem. two questions: What model do you have? What does the screen look like when you reboot? There were 4 G3 Mac Powerbook models. The original Powerbook G3, which looks like a 5300, aka the Kanga. http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/g3.shtml Then there was the Powerbook G3 Series, aka the Wallstreet. http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/g3series.shtml (also a series II) It has two PCMCIA slots and SCSI on the back. Next was the Powerbook G3 (bronze Keyboard) aka the Lombard. It has only one pcmcia slot, SCSI and USB ports, and the afore mentioned bronze keyboard. (kinda brownish transparent keys) http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/lombard.shtml Finally there was the Powerbook G3 Series Firewire, aka the Pismo. It has no SCSI, but does have firewire slots, and the same bronze keyboard. http://www.lowendmac.com/pb2/pismo.shtml The fact that it got worse after being on a longer time implies a hardware problem, getting worse as the system gets hotter. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Ph rmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: anyone familiar with this problem?
My Reply follows quote. On 14/03/2005 14:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi all I'm a newbie to the list, so please forgive me if I breach protocol in any way! I've used Macs for years, but this is my first G3. And I've just run up against a big problem, one that I've never encountered before, and which prevents me using it at all. I'll try and be as clear and concise as possible, and give as many clues as I can: My G3, OS 9.1, which altho not new, is new to me--I've been using it for about a month. Last week when I booted up I noticed that a few dotted lines had strangely appeared on my desktop screen. --- First off, what kind of G3 are you talking about? Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---