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At 4:54 PM + 02/02/2006, Michel Treisman wrote: Everyone compares open source word processors with Microsloth Word. But there are cheaper alternatives too. I have glanced at Pages, and it doesn't look too bad. What do folks think about Pages? Does it have any serious gaps, compared to Word? One thing I don't think it has are macros but perhaps i could live without them. Pages looks interesting. But each time I tried it last wee, at the Apple store, it froze up or crashed. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I use Word for one item only--I'm a Humanist Celebrant (ask me offlist if you want to know more about that) and have a marriage certificate that's done in Word that I'll print on a color laser at Kinko's. Otherwise I use AppleWorks for my WP needs. Word files are bloated compared to what they need to be! Later..Howard On 2/1/06, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 01/02/06 20:44, Steve Peckey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its funny when I posted stuff on here about open source software I did not think it would be met with such strong opinions. Its almost like its a apple vs pc debate. I just posted because I would think that most of the users could utilize open source stuff without spend $$$ on software that they may use a few times a week. Even student that don't have a software program with their school would rather save the 200.00 on an app if they can use a office suite that is free. That's a very valid point. I remember 15 years ago, when I was working for an Apple dealer, people were walking in the store and were asking for Microsoft Word. After talking to them, most of the time, they would have used maybe 10% of everything Word had to offer back them. There were cheaper alternatives but people didn't know better. So, I think it's good that someone mentions alternatives to the big gorilla of software. Bill Gates is rich enough so all our money doesn't have to go in his pockets. I too run Office 2004 on my Mac through an employee purchase program where I could get any Microsoft software for $20. I would never pay $200 or even more for Microsoft software, specially when you see how bad the performance is because of the pseudo language they're using. But because I need friggin' Outlook compatibility, I stuck with Entourage, which, actually is not too bad when compare to the other apps... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] juggling eggs: vi. Keeping a lot of state in your head while modifying a program. Don't bother me now, I'm juggling eggs, means that an interrupt is likely to result in the program's being scrambled. In the classic 1975 first-contact SF novel The Mote in God's Eye, by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, an alien describes a very difficult task by saying We juggle priceless eggs in variable gravity. See also hack mode and on the gripping hand. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Steve: We saw strong opinions, yes. But this has been a great discussion. Every statement has value for someone, whether it is for the open source software or for Microsoft. Keep it up. On Feb 1, 2006, at 10:28 PM, G-Books wrote: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:44:35 -0500 From: Steve Peckey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: open source software site In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its funny when I posted stuff on here about open source software I did not think it would be met with such strong opinions. Its almost like its a apple vs pc debate. I just posted because I would think that most of the users could utilize open source stuff without spend $$$ on software that they may use a few times a week. Even student that don't have a software program with their school would rather save the 200.00 on an app if they can use a office suite that is free. My two cents again Cheers Steve Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Peter Webster writes: Ah, I'm happy with Abiword: seems to be an application that *more* than meets my needs. I like the idea of the internet being more than just a marketing gig. I'm writing a book on Abiword. I think that's pretty serious work. That's a very good example. I hope there aren't too many people pressed over the tangential direction of this thread, but it seems worthwhile. Comparing MS Word to AbiWord is like comparing a BMW 750i to a Toyota Corolla -- both will accomplish the same function (get you there), but one is loaded down with several hundred features you will probably never use, while the other is much more straight-forward in its approach. cheers, A.J. -- Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting -- Steve McQueen -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I'm writing a book on Abiword. I think that's pretty serious work. That's a very good example. I hope there aren't too many people pressed over the tangential direction of this thread, but it seems worthwhile. Comparing MS Word to AbiWord is like comparing a BMW 750i to a Toyota Corolla -- both will accomplish the same function (get you there), but one is loaded down with several hundred features you will probably never use, while the other is much more straight-forward in its approach. Everyone compares open source word processors with Microsloth Word. But there are cheaper alternatives too. I have glanced at Pages, and it doesn't look too bad. What do folks think about Pages? Does it have any serious gaps, compared to Word? One thing I don't think it has are macros but perhaps i could live without them. Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I use Pages almost as much as Abiword. It's really clean—uncluttered, that is. Straightforward. I don't like the spelling checker a lot, but it's enough to help catch mistakes. The page numbering could be better, but it's adequate for short pieces. I use Pages for commentaries on news for my blogs. It's a good example of something that does what it needs to do. The page layout itself is dandy: good for newsletters. Good substitute for the word processing in Appleworks. Peter Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://disturbingthecomfortable.blogspot.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I just posted a long response regarding Word Processors. But, as soon as iWork 06 came out, I bought it. Pages is dramatically improved over the 05 version. It definitely gets my vote as #2. And, I do use it. If you're going to do an article with pictures, etc, it's a LOT easier to use than Word. Apple did a really great job and adding the little Excel-like additions was quite nice. Keynote gets my vote over PowerPoint any day--I think it's wonderful. Tim On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Michel Treisman wrote: I'm writing a book on Abiword. I think that's pretty serious work. That's a very good example. I hope there aren't too many people pressed over the tangential direction of this thread, but it seems worthwhile. Comparing MS Word to AbiWord is like comparing a BMW 750i to a Toyota Corolla -- both will accomplish the same function (get you there), but one is loaded down with several hundred features you will probably never use, while the other is much more straight-forward in its approach. Everyone compares open source word processors with Microsloth Word. But there are cheaper alternatives too. I have glanced at Pages, and it doesn't look too bad. What do folks think about Pages? Does it have any serious gaps, compared to Word? One thing I don't think it has are macros but perhaps i could live without them. Mike Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Hi Tim, On Feb 2, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Tim Collier wrote: Keynote gets my vote over PowerPoint any day--I think it's wonderful Can Keynote presentations be shared with Windows users? Can it take a PowerPoint presentation and clean it up, as well as save it in PowerPoint format? If not, then it sounds like a great tool that wouldn't work for me. All of my company's online materials are Windows-centric, and I've even had to add Microsoft Messenger to be able to chat with colleagues. Speaking of that, is there a way to get iChat to connect with people on Microsoft Messenger? Regards, Harry Corsover = Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 2 Feb 2006, at 19:20, Harry Corsover asked: Can Keynote presentations be shared with Windows users? Can it take a PowerPoint presentation and clean it up, as well as save it in PowerPoint format? Not to present. You can export the Keynote presentation to PPT. In the '05 version you would lose some of the formatting, though. I don't know if this is true of the 06 version. J Sanderson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Here is a nice site full of open source mac software. Aside from browsers would anyone like to share experiances with any of these www.opensourcemac.org Thanks Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Feb 1, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Steve Peckey wrote: Here is a nice site full of open source mac software. Aside from browsers would anyone like to share experiances with any of these www.opensourcemac.org HandBrake, Nvu and NeoOffice are great. I've replaced MS office with NeoOffice on my home machines. There's a lot of cool stuff there. A site with TONS of OSS stuff is Sourcforge.org. Its all platforms, but you can search for projects with OS X ports. (Also pure Java apps run well on OS X...and there's a lot of those on Sourceforge.) -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Clarification here: you really replaced a program suite that you paid $400 for with open source NeoOffice? Pardon my doubt here, but Microsoft Office is the 'gold standard'. I can't imagine that any open source would run as fast or offer as many features. Now I do have to qualify this statement (critique) by saying that I've never tried any of the open source software available and I would need some pretty convincing evidence to get me to chuck out Office 2004 in favor of something written in java and needing to have X11 added to my computer. How about some real world examples. When I click on Word, it opens in seconds.maybe 1 second (I just tried it)...does the open source version do that? Bruce, you know I totally respect your opinion, but this one has me a bit doubtful. Tim On Feb 1, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 1, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Steve Peckey wrote: Here is a nice site full of open source mac software. Aside from browsers would anyone like to share experiances with any of these www.opensourcemac.org HandBrake, Nvu and NeoOffice are great. I've replaced MS office with NeoOffice on my home machines. There's a lot of cool stuff there. A site with TONS of OSS stuff is Sourcforge.org. Its all platforms, but you can search for projects with OS X ports. (Also pure Java apps run well on OS X...and there's a lot of those on Sourceforge.) -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Wednesday 01 February 2006 18:54, Tim Collier wrote: Pardon my doubt here, but Microsoft Office is the 'gold standard'. I can't imagine that any open source would run as fast or offer as many features. In my experience with OpenOffice (NeoOffice is a Mac port of OpenOffice) I've been pleased with it, and I personally prefer it to Microsoft Office, but that's my humble opinion. On a Mac, NeoOffice is painfully slow loading on my G3/400, but it's pretty responsive once it's open. OO does keep up with Office on Wintel machines, though. Featureset: Almost all the features of Office, with the exception of an Entourage/Outlook-type program are included. Mozilla Thunderbird makes a good replacement, though. In conclusion, a good Open Source suite can be assembled that will keep up with and exceed the 'standards' set by Microsoft and Office. Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I have used office 97, 2000, and now xp on my pc. I have open office on my desktop as well as office xp. On my ibook I have office 2004 as well as neo office. As far as microsoft software goes I would replace any open source app for microsoft stuff. I really don't like ms office on a mac but I use different apps depending on what I am doing. Since most of the open source office apps integrate with ms office appsI have not had any problems. I think some of the open source stuff runs better on older macs G3's and such and ms office is such a resource hog. My two cents, I'm also lucky to have been able to get all of my software from my days in college, when I was at Purdue Microsoft had a deal that you were able to get any of their titles at 5.00 Cheers Steve On 2/1/06, Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clarification here: you really replaced a program suite that you paid $400 for with open source NeoOffice? Pardon my doubt here, but Microsoft Office is the 'gold standard'. I can't imagine that any open source would run as fast or offer as many features. Now I do have to qualify this statement (critique) by saying that I've never tried any of the open source software available and I would need some pretty convincing evidence to get me to chuck out Office 2004 in favor of something written in java and needing to have X11 added to my computer. How about some real world examples. When I click on Word, it opens in seconds.maybe 1 second (I just tried it)...does the open source version do that? Bruce, you know I totally respect your opinion, but this one has me a bit doubtful. Tim On Feb 1, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 1, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Steve Peckey wrote: Here is a nice site full of open source mac software. Aside from browsers would anyone like to share experiances with any of these www.opensourcemac.org HandBrake, Nvu and NeoOffice are great. I've replaced MS office with NeoOffice on my home machines. There's a lot of cool stuff there. A site with TONS of OSS stuff is Sourcforge.org. Its all platforms, but you can search for projects with OS X ports. (Also pure Java apps run well on OS X...and there's a lot of those on Sourceforge.) -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Its funny when I posted stuff on here about open source software I did not think it would be met with such strong opinions. Its almost like its a apple vs pc debate. I just posted because I would think that most of the users could utilize open source stuff without spend $$$ on software that they may use a few times a week. Even student that don't have a software program with their school would rather save the 200.00 on an app if they can use a office suite that is free. My two cents again Cheers Steve On 2/1/06, Steve Peckey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used office 97, 2000, and now xp on my pc. I have open office on my desktop as well as office xp. On my ibook I have office 2004 as well as neo office. As far as microsoft software goes I would replace any open source app for microsoft stuff. I really don't like ms office on a mac but I use different apps depending on what I am doing. Since most of the open source office apps integrate with ms office appsI have not had any problems. I think some of the open source stuff runs better on older macs G3's and such and ms office is such a resource hog. My two cents, I'm also lucky to have been able to get all of my software from my days in college, when I was at Purdue Microsoft had a deal that you were able to get any of their titles at 5.00 Cheers Steve On 2/1/06, Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clarification here: you really replaced a program suite that you paid $400 for with open source NeoOffice? Pardon my doubt here, but Microsoft Office is the 'gold standard'. I can't imagine that any open source would run as fast or offer as many features. Now I do have to qualify this statement (critique) by saying that I've never tried any of the open source software available and I would need some pretty convincing evidence to get me to chuck out Office 2004 in favor of something written in java and needing to have X11 added to my computer. How about some real world examples. When I click on Word, it opens in seconds.maybe 1 second (I just tried it)...does the open source version do that? Bruce, you know I totally respect your opinion, but this one has me a bit doubtful. Tim On Feb 1, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 1, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Steve Peckey wrote: Here is a nice site full of open source mac software. Aside from browsers would anyone like to share experiances with any of these www.opensourcemac.org HandBrake, Nvu and NeoOffice are great. I've replaced MS office with NeoOffice on my home machines. There's a lot of cool stuff there. A site with TONS of OSS stuff is Sourcforge.org. Its all platforms, but you can search for projects with OS X ports. (Also pure Java apps run well on OS X...and there's a lot of those on Sourceforge.) -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! |
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Ah, I'm happy with Abiword: seems to be an application that *more* than meets my needs. I like the idea of the internet being more than just a marketing gig. I'm writing a book on Abiword. I think that's pretty serious work. On Feb 1, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Steve Peckey wrote: Its funny when I posted stuff on here about open source software I did not think it would be met with such strong opinions. Its almost like its a apple vs pc debate. I just posted because I would think that most of the users could utilize open source stuff without spend $$$ on software that they may use a few times a week. Even student that don't have a software program with their school would rather save the 200.00 on an app if they can use a office suite that is free. My two cents again Peter Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://disturbingthecomfortable.blogspot.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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on 01/02/06 20:44, Steve Peckey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its funny when I posted stuff on here about open source software I did not think it would be met with such strong opinions. Its almost like its a apple vs pc debate. I just posted because I would think that most of the users could utilize open source stuff without spend $$$ on software that they may use a few times a week. Even student that don't have a software program with their school would rather save the 200.00 on an app if they can use a office suite that is free. That's a very valid point. I remember 15 years ago, when I was working for an Apple dealer, people were walking in the store and were asking for Microsoft Word. After talking to them, most of the time, they would have used maybe 10% of everything Word had to offer back them. There were cheaper alternatives but people didn't know better. So, I think it's good that someone mentions alternatives to the big gorilla of software. Bill Gates is rich enough so all our money doesn't have to go in his pockets. I too run Office 2004 on my Mac through an employee purchase program where I could get any Microsoft software for $20. I would never pay $200 or even more for Microsoft software, specially when you see how bad the performance is because of the pseudo language they're using. But because I need friggin' Outlook compatibility, I stuck with Entourage, which, actually is not too bad when compare to the other apps... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] juggling eggs: vi. Keeping a lot of state in your head while modifying a program. Don't bother me now, I'm juggling eggs, means that an interrupt is likely to result in the program's being scrambled. In the classic 1975 first-contact SF novel The Mote in God's Eye, by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, an alien describes a very difficult task by saying We juggle priceless eggs in variable gravity. See also hack mode and on the gripping hand. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---